LOL. Safe indeed. My question is will A.I Bach be nuanced to the degree multiple interpretations become feasible? Bach’s genius is multifaceted. Think of Gould vs Schiff or Perahia and how they differ. We have no trouble identifying the score; we struggle to anticipate how these three gents will play this of that passage based on the score. We are better at anticipating Gould. Schiff and Perahia base on their known performance practices. That’s 😮more difficult but feasible plus or minus. Not Bach. Bach’s inventiveness is stunning. We analyze his scores retrospectively - it all makes sense after we know what he did compositionally. It will take time for BachCBT to get to that level of invention. BachCBT has a way to go 😊
@@JoePalau In Bach melodies aren't just there to sound nice or intricate. His music ALWAYS serves a higher purpose and addresses the intellectual, emotional and spritual dimension simultaneously. GPT neither understands nor experiences the human condition. In that regard A.I. is still is as dumb as my old pocket calculator from the 80s and it reminds us once again that the human brain is way more than just an information processing machine.
Well there was Burt Bach a r a c h And of course The Bach ~ manTurnerOverdrive Distant cousins, I know, but AI should be able to figure out how they are similar, right?
“..mostly move in parallel motion, another characteristic of Bach’s style..” This is where it all went off the rails, I think. That is opposite of Bach’s style. In counterpoint, parallel motion is only permitted in certain circumstances. It must only occur between thirds and sixths and their inversions. Fifths and octaves, which always begin and end the piece, and should appear less often than thirds and sixths, can only be approached by contrary or oblique motion. For this and many other reasons, it will be rare to find very lengthy sections of parallel motion in a Bach song.
@@progbarock Is it a child that makes these videos?? (How is it that he knows about every movie from the ‘80’s?? Lol! It’s possible though!) Well, there was a book on counterpoint that Beethoven and Mozart and Chopin and most of the greats studied when they were all children, called Gradus ad Parnassum. If it really is a kid that makes these, if he’s smart enough to figure out how to use all this AI tech, he’d probably be able to understand it too. The rules of counterpoint aren’t all that complicated, they were just out of fashion when we were kids. But like 1980’s movies, they seem to be making a well deserved comeback.
Ohh, I see what you mean. GPT is the child, not the guy who makes these videos. Lol.. Yeah, it’s kind of surprising that GPT is even able to generate melodies as good as this. But in fact, when it said it made a harmony with parallel motion, it really was parallel motion. So who knows, maybe it could learn more sophisticated harmonies if it were trained on them.
I need to point out one thing. You say thirds, sixths and their inversions, which is just plain wrong, because thirds and sixths are their respective inversions already haha. If you want to correct it...if not I can't say I really care lol
In your prompts to ChatGPT, tell it to include more rest beats at various places in each of the tracks it is creating. Also, why not ask it to generate a third variable for each note and have that variable be velocity (or loudness)?
I'm baffled as to why this video doesn't boast millions of views. It's a gold mine of stellar content, with extraordinary editing and spellbinding storytelling. It's my sincere hope that your subscriber count skyrockets 20-fold. This is premium content. Thank you. Keep rocking!
because its a niche topic, and its a low effort video with AI generated pics, video clips, script, TTS, etc. your own comment sounds like it was made by chatgpt. pretty soon we'll all be watching 100% ai generated content, and most of the comments will be AI generated as well. simulation theory is real, we're seeing it come to fruition right now.
@@LordConstrobuz lol I got the same feeling about this OP. After reading through a bunch, it wouldn't surprise me to find out most of the comments here aren't from legit users. Using bots to add traffic to a video to boost its reach is a big no no on YT, but I don't care enough to gather the evidence for it and report the video. Small time channel isn't worth the effort. Definitely a bizarro comment section though..
People who have any idea about creating music stay away from AI. Why? Because in music the process is important, emotional transfer that happens only when you create the music yourself
I'm impressed that you went the hard route and invented your own language for this. There is already a text-based notation for music. It's called "ABC" (I know, a very strange name). And there are even command line tools that convert ABC notation directly to MIDI. And yes, ChatGPT knows ABC notation very well. I've used it to do exactly what you've outlined above, and it's very fast.
Your videos are intimidatingly great. The topics. The edits. Production. Humor. The process. And the outcome. Sincerest slow clap for what you're doing 👏😊
Having played violin from grades 2-12, I played a lot of Bach. This AI attempt is amazing, but in its current state it sounds like Bach might have sounded if he was composing at age 6. It’s very challenging in art or music to write a prompt that gets AI to capture the emotion, the feel, the energy, the power of Bach. You’ve done a good job in getting close, but those years in orchestra, in which a musician is surrounded by the sound, provide a stark contrast. A friend of mine, a classical musician, won a lifetime Grammy for 50 years of performing and recording. Regarding Bach, he once told me, Bach transposes keys incredibly quickly. I don’t have ears to hear that, but it’s just part of the greatest genius of music composition. Keep working at it and I look forward to your progress.
I’ve been waiting for a video like this for a long time and thanks to a mention in a podcast I just saw it. I find it incredible that you pulled this off. We’re on the brink of so many exciting developments and this video will prove to be quintessential I believe. Please keep up the good work and keep developing this train of thought further and further!
This is the best way to make AI music in its current state, and you are the ONLY person doing this right now. Freaking love your videos man. Thank you so much
very cool, thanks for the video! and how profound bach's music really is - the human element, imagination and overall facility is irreplaceable even in a world of flourishing technology.
I'm brand new to your channel- this is a really cool experiment with Bach's music, but you forgot one important thing... FUGUES! Bach is famous for writing fugues- music where a single melody (or sometimes more) is played over top itself in slightly different harmonies/rhythms to harmonize against itself. Here you have instructed GPT to creat multiple unique melodies, which is cool, and you applied Baroque stylistic rules, but you can't study Bach without the fugue. In the 6th chapter here you created music which, to me, sounds distinctly more Renaissance-esque than Bach. Very cool, but not Bach. Sorry to be such a Bach stan, but I gotta stand up for the goat. Cool video, I subscribed!
NOTHING like the REAL BACH - and nothing like a human composer - to derive intellectual and emotional interest. I MAY be laughed off in 50 years after this progresses by leaps and bounds. For now, just gimme inspired variations of some authentic Bach melodies and development. Emulative music will never have the SOUL OF MANKIND. At least --- it won't have mine! ♥♥♥♥
Been there done that - David Cope's : EMI (Experiments in Musical Intelligence) software has produced works in the style of various composers, some of which have been commercially recorded ranging from short pieces to full-length operas.
That was very interesting and appreciate the great effort you put in to make it happen. Bringing Aphex in seemed to add that twist that resulted in a more creative and Bach like piece
Heard an episode of RadioLab where some researchers already did this using AI (machine learning) roughly a decade ago. They then played the composition at a concert and the audience couldn't tell it wasn't really a genuine Bach piece.
"it will be rare to find very lengthy sections of parallel motion in a Bach song..” Ya, thanks for mentioning this. The big problem with this whole idea is that to be fair to Bach, you would either have to be Him to program ChatGPT's guidelines or be someone who can totally discern his style and background. Normally this would be a genius musicoligist. You have to ask yourself if the person running this experiment has those qualifications. Please do not take this the wrong way and think I am dissing the author of this channel. I have no problem with the process. Just the expectations inplied in the concept.
Very interesting. Thanks for putting this together, it looks like it was a lot of work. Another interesting video about using algorithms and computers to write music is called "AI music is older than you think" on a channel called "Score circuit". It approaches it from a music theory standpoint though.
Cool technique, using a key prompt to put chatGPT in a specific mindset. I do the same thing, making up linguistic games, and teaching them to chatGPT. Sometimes, I just give a concept of a game and have it write the rules so I can understand the game too.
When I was at Berklee about 6 years ago, I distinctly remember Google coming out with a Google doodle that allowed you to o write a simple melody and Google A.I. was supposed to be able to compose 4 part harmony around it in the style of bach. It was for Bach's 200th birthday or something idk. We tested it out in my harmony class and almost every measure had something wrong with it. Usually it was parallel 4ths, 5ths or octaves. fast forward to today and I guess A.I. has decided, "why not keep everything in C major, that will make life easier" 😂 all the effort and time to go into this video for basically a glorified atpeggiater.
This is horrific. I actually know more than a little bit about Bach, his compositional style, his historical stylistic and technical environs, his technical counterpoint, his cumulated output, and so on. This sounds like "Bach" only to someone who has only a cartoon idea of what "Bach" means. What I hear is utterly ignorant counterpoint that would not pass for the output of a first-day composition student. This is the dumbing-down of the human world in which ChatGPT and its brethren are a major (malef)actor. For me, being able to represent the glory, ignomy, and tragedy of God being voluntarily nailed to a cross for our sake (and I do not hold his religious belief) in such a way as the St. Matthew Passion has done for coming up on 300 years, moving people of every and no faith, nationality, or background with the intellectual and emotional texture and force of that narrative -- when ChatGPT can do that, ping me. When ChatGPT can write chorale preludes like BWV 622 that tell a story already known to the listener in colors, shades, and textures over the course of 6 minutes, send me a message. Or portray the entire emotional landscape of what it means to be human in 15 minutes as does the Chaconne from the D minor violin sonata -- send me an email. This is an insult not only to Bach, but to those of use who have studied and promulgated his masterpieces for a lifetime. And mind you, software has been my professional career.
I actually wanted this to work. Are you kidding me! All the work to end up with that? We could have had an endless supply of js Bach music and AI has let me down. Hopefully in the future this actually works
Someone, sooner or later, was going to write the Einstein equations - the ideas underlying Relativity went back at least to Galileo. It just happens that the Einstein equations were written by Einstein. But nobody apart from J.S. Bach was going to write the intro to Cantata 29 - Wir danken dir, Gott, wir danken dir. Look it up and have a listen. Likewise, if Beethoven had died before completing any of his landmark symphonies (#3, #5, #9), nobody else would have been able to write them' This video shows me that, whatever we may try to fabricate as musical forms, they can only be the results of programming. Worth doing, but not convincing.
Anyone remember C.P.U. Bach by Sid Meier? It came out in the mid 90's. On the Wikipedia page for it there's a link to the the original patent which may be of interest.
I did something similar to this a couple of months ago and got pretty similar results. There is a tool called csv2midi. After we agreed on the format it was fairly easy to do the generations and conversions. I didnt do Bach, but I had it generate chords, pads, drums, melody and a couple of other tracks. It was okay, but it wasn't hugely impressive. That said, it seemed like we are pretty close to a breakthrough with the pipeline. Great video.
Hey @nobodyandthecomputer Just wanted to give you a big shout-out and say thanks for your amazing videos! My knowledge in music theory is very basic, but I absolutely love the way you break down complex concepts in such funny retro-way. - I just felt the 80's sunrises- . Your videos have opened my eyes and ears to a whole new view to music, and I can't thank you enough for sharing your expertise. Keep rocking! Have a very good one!🎉
this is not going to work, because counterpoint, even as it is made of interwoven melodic lines, is actually based on four-part chordal harmony. You need to feed the system with Bach chorales first, so it gets an understanding of harmonic motion on chords alone. Then ask it to provide passing notes, cadences, etc. You build its sense of composition in the same order one learns composition in school.
Interesting how it may all be musically sound and perfectly follow the instructions guided by music theory, yet it still sounds like it was written by either an AI or a teenager who just discovered a midi app and is messing around with it. There's something we're missing when it comes to music. Even the highest quality synthesized music makes you go 'oh that sounds just like real classical music' it doesn't make you have whatever reaction you'd have to a genuine Bach piece because something in you can tell it's just not quite right.
Love this....eventually it will happen that we'll not know how "creativity" is generated , what it serves I don't know, that is the problem. We're just cull just the past?
Could you use RUclips's dubbing feature? I'm from Brazil and would like to share the video, but my friends don't speak English. Dubbing in Brazilian Portuguese would make the video easier to understand. I found your explanation very interesting.
The AI rabbit hole brought me here. AI is super interesting to me, and the YT algorithm already knows I like music. After a couple minutes in, I had to look at your subscriber count, only to be highly surprised you have just under 20K, and not 200K. Keep doing what you're doing man, you've got "it".
Very interesting. I would love to see a video on how you would prompt engineer for good lyrics. I notice ChatGPT forces rhymes to painful lengths at times.
This makes me feel a lot better about ChatGPT vs human. I think the final piece was the most interesting, but as for emulating J. S. Bach, whether through a Wendy Carlos lens or not, I think it was kind of an epic fail. YAY!!!
The one at 11:30 is the best IMO. I could see that evolving in some ongoing way. It has a Bach-ish complexity. Anything with counterpoint is truly impressive. btw who does the GPT voice--Scarlett Johansson?
I am a composer, I've learned a Bach Lute Suite, BM in music composition, and synth obsessed. I definitely want to learn how to do this. It made me laugh how far it sounded; to me the second one really had a renaissance vibe, sorta Franco-flemish. I find the images and voices make me somatically uncomfortable for some reason- I feel it in my hands. MIDI instruments do the same. I only want the raw midi data to mess with the written music. I chat with the one that is open source but the information stops at Sept 2021. Maybe it can still do this.
It understands ABC format right out of the box and there are online sites that can convert that notation. That's easier than teaching it simplified midi. In my eown experiments it generated similar melodies. It loves that rising and descending diatonic thirds thing.
At least for the time being, Mr. Bach's legacy is safe.
LOL. Safe indeed. My question is will A.I Bach be nuanced to the degree multiple interpretations become feasible? Bach’s genius is multifaceted. Think of Gould vs Schiff or Perahia and how they differ. We have no trouble identifying the score; we struggle to anticipate how these three gents will play this of that passage based on the score. We are better at anticipating Gould. Schiff and Perahia base on their known performance practices. That’s 😮more difficult but feasible plus or minus. Not Bach. Bach’s inventiveness is stunning. We analyze his scores retrospectively - it all makes sense after we know what he did compositionally. It will take time for BachCBT to get to that level of invention. BachCBT has a way to go 😊
Quite safe! 😂
The legacy will always be safe. Because even a perfect imitation will be just that. Imitation.
…for the time being
@@JoePalau In Bach melodies aren't just there to sound nice or intricate. His music ALWAYS serves a higher purpose and addresses the intellectual, emotional and spritual dimension simultaneously. GPT neither understands nor experiences the human condition.
In that regard A.I. is still is as dumb as my old pocket calculator from the 80s and it reminds us once again that the human brain is way more than just an information processing machine.
A very interesting exploration, which from my point of view illustrates quite nicely why, in the last 300 years, there hasn't been a second Bach.
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Distant cousins, I know, but AI should be able to figure out how they are similar, right?
aphex twin. look up "28 organ"
yep, very boring and lifeless...
Papa Bach is a mountain higher than the Himalayas. No one will ever have the lungs he had.
@@Tyrell_Corp2019 Agreed on that one.
Next level content. The humour, animations and video clips atop the music experiments. Superb !
“..mostly move in parallel motion, another characteristic of Bach’s style..” This is where it all went off the rails, I think. That is opposite of Bach’s style. In counterpoint, parallel motion is only permitted in certain circumstances. It must only occur between thirds and sixths and their inversions. Fifths and octaves, which always begin and end the piece, and should appear less often than thirds and sixths, can only be approached by contrary or oblique motion. For this and many other reasons, it will be rare to find very lengthy sections of parallel motion in a Bach song.
Keep in mind you're trying to explain music theory to a child with ChatGPT (I completely agree with you, of course).
@@progbarock Is it a child that makes these videos?? (How is it that he knows about every movie from the ‘80’s?? Lol! It’s possible though!) Well, there was a book on counterpoint that Beethoven and Mozart and Chopin and most of the greats studied when they were all children, called Gradus ad Parnassum. If it really is a kid that makes these, if he’s smart enough to figure out how to use all this AI tech, he’d probably be able to understand it too. The rules of counterpoint aren’t all that complicated, they were just out of fashion when we were kids. But like 1980’s movies, they seem to be making a well deserved comeback.
Ohh, I see what you mean. GPT is the child, not the guy who makes these videos. Lol.. Yeah, it’s kind of surprising that GPT is even able to generate melodies as good as this. But in fact, when it said it made a harmony with parallel motion, it really was parallel motion. So who knows, maybe it could learn more sophisticated harmonies if it were trained on them.
I need to point out one thing. You say thirds, sixths and their inversions, which is just plain wrong, because thirds and sixths are their respective inversions already haha. If you want to correct it...if not I can't say I really care lol
@@timtimtimm Haha, very true!! I actually thought of that as soon as I posted it. What I meant to say was thirds and sixths and their *octaves*.
In your prompts to ChatGPT, tell it to include more rest beats at various places in each of the tracks it is creating. Also, why not ask it to generate a third variable for each note and have that variable be velocity (or loudness)?
@TheTiredHorizonwhat are they?
I was thinking the same thing, it’s hard to write counterpoint if you aren’t allowed any rests
I mean on a harpsichord (Bach's time) there wouldn't be any written velocity or volume variation
@@artonion420It does use 'None' at least in one reply
You are an ion drive, picking up a little energy every day and converting it to speed. You will get us to Mars safely.
I'm baffled as to why this video doesn't boast millions of views. It's a gold mine of stellar content, with extraordinary editing and spellbinding storytelling. It's my sincere hope that your subscriber count skyrockets 20-fold. This is premium content. Thank you. Keep rocking!
Bc who gives a shit about chat gpt and the trash it produces
because its a niche topic, and its a low effort video with AI generated pics, video clips, script, TTS, etc. your own comment sounds like it was made by chatgpt. pretty soon we'll all be watching 100% ai generated content, and most of the comments will be AI generated as well. simulation theory is real, we're seeing it come to fruition right now.
@@LordConstrobuz lol I got the same feeling about this OP. After reading through a bunch, it wouldn't surprise me to find out most of the comments here aren't from legit users. Using bots to add traffic to a video to boost its reach is a big no no on YT, but I don't care enough to gather the evidence for it and report the video. Small time channel isn't worth the effort. Definitely a bizarro comment section though..
because it doesn't even remotely sound like Bach at all
People who have any idea about creating music stay away from AI. Why? Because in music the process is important, emotional transfer that happens only when you create the music yourself
I'm impressed that you went the hard route and invented your own language for this. There is already a text-based notation for music. It's called "ABC" (I know, a very strange name). And there are even command line tools that convert ABC notation directly to MIDI. And yes, ChatGPT knows ABC notation very well. I've used it to do exactly what you've outlined above, and it's very fast.
Your videos are intimidatingly great. The topics. The edits. Production. Humor. The process. And the outcome. Sincerest slow clap for what you're doing 👏😊
this is already good enough for video game music 🥺. pretty amazing how far we've come
Having played violin from grades 2-12, I played a lot of Bach. This AI attempt is amazing, but in its current state it sounds like Bach might have sounded if he was composing at age 6. It’s very challenging in art or music to write a prompt that gets AI to capture the emotion, the feel, the energy, the power of Bach. You’ve done a good job in getting close, but those years in orchestra, in which a musician is surrounded by the sound, provide a stark contrast. A friend of mine, a classical musician, won a lifetime Grammy for 50 years of performing and recording. Regarding Bach, he once told me, Bach transposes keys incredibly quickly. I don’t have ears to hear that, but it’s just part of the greatest genius of music composition. Keep working at it and I look forward to your progress.
This sounds nothing like Bach, tbh. Very interesting video, though!
I agree. Very underwhelming. But it’s a start. 😊
I’ve been waiting for a video like this for a long time and thanks to a mention in a podcast I just saw it. I find it incredible that you pulled this off. We’re on the brink of so many exciting developments and this video will prove to be quintessential I believe. Please keep up the good work and keep developing this train of thought further and further!
This is the best way to make AI music in its current state, and you are the ONLY person doing this right now. Freaking love your videos man. Thank you so much
Why is it the best way?
@@PiPiSquared Because the other two big ai music models still don't sound very good at all and don't really follow prompts very well either
this is utter dogshit and probably the worst way to generate music. nor is this person the only one making generated music
I bet Microsoft will see this video, automate, spice up, and you will have Midi productions in Bing! Bard will come next (or a minute earlier) :)
ChatGPT is like: Melody goes always up and down, right?
very cool, thanks for the video!
and how profound bach's music really is - the human element, imagination and overall facility is irreplaceable even in a world of flourishing technology.
This has been done like decades ago and infinitely better.
Parallel motion was not characteristic about style, so this is way off right from the
I'm brand new to your channel- this is a really cool experiment with Bach's music, but you forgot one important thing... FUGUES! Bach is famous for writing fugues- music where a single melody (or sometimes more) is played over top itself in slightly different harmonies/rhythms to harmonize against itself. Here you have instructed GPT to creat multiple unique melodies, which is cool, and you applied Baroque stylistic rules, but you can't study Bach without the fugue. In the 6th chapter here you created music which, to me, sounds distinctly more Renaissance-esque than Bach. Very cool, but not Bach. Sorry to be such a Bach stan, but I gotta stand up for the goat. Cool video, I subscribed!
NOTHING like the REAL BACH - and nothing like a human composer - to derive intellectual and emotional interest. I MAY be laughed off in 50 years after this progresses by leaps and bounds. For now, just gimme inspired variations of some authentic Bach melodies and development. Emulative music will never have the SOUL OF MANKIND. At least --- it won't have mine!
♥♥♥♥
top 10 best uses of Eleven labs. well done
Been there done that - David Cope's : EMI (Experiments in Musical Intelligence) software has produced works in the style of various composers, some of which have been commercially recorded ranging from short pieces to full-length operas.
Loved the composition at 11:30. Great work.
That was very interesting and appreciate the great effort you put in to make it happen. Bringing Aphex in seemed to add that twist that resulted in a more creative and Bach like piece
That is an extraordinary process. The end result.had something, perseverance pays off.
Heard an episode of RadioLab where some researchers already did this using AI (machine learning) roughly a decade ago. They then played the composition at a concert and the audience couldn't tell it wasn't really a genuine Bach piece.
"it will be rare to find very lengthy sections of parallel motion in a Bach song..”
Ya, thanks for mentioning this. The big problem with this whole idea is that to be fair to Bach, you would either have to be Him to program ChatGPT's guidelines or be someone who can totally discern his style and background. Normally this would be a genius musicoligist. You have to ask yourself if the person running this experiment has those qualifications. Please do not take this the wrong way and think I am dissing the author of this channel. I have no problem with the process. Just the expectations inplied in the concept.
Fascinating. Enjoy the creative journey and travel on the path that best suits you, not your critics.
All of the rules, none of the soul.
What ghastly melodies, for a start.
Fascinating.
Your videos are awesome. I love how it is all ai generated content and your style is fun. Thanks
That a sick name for a new AI album: "BachGpt the midi well tempered"
Sitting here with popcorn trying to figure out how many years/months my composition career has left 🍿
This is first video in this channel. I am mind blown as a 11 year musician. Thank you 🙏
Rock on!
Very interesting. Thanks for putting this together, it looks like it was a lot of work. Another interesting video about using algorithms and computers to write music is called "AI music is older than you think" on a channel called "Score circuit". It approaches it from a music theory standpoint though.
HI, Nobody & The Computer , What program did you use to animate the photos?
Ummm... not quite Johan just yet... LOL
Ohh, This would play nice with the new functions feature, have it write the midis directly
Cool technique, using a key prompt to put chatGPT in a specific mindset. I do the same thing, making up linguistic games, and teaching them to chatGPT. Sometimes, I just give a concept of a game and have it write the rules so I can understand the game too.
wow this is so stimulating, thanks 4 all U'r hard work!
If it comes up with a masterpiece then I will be impressed.
Keep pushing the boundaries, this is just the beginning. Love your videos
When I was at Berklee about 6 years ago, I distinctly remember Google coming out with a Google doodle that allowed you to o write a simple melody and Google A.I. was supposed to be able to compose 4 part harmony around it in the style of bach. It was for Bach's 200th birthday or something idk. We tested it out in my harmony class and almost every measure had something wrong with it. Usually it was parallel 4ths, 5ths or octaves. fast forward to today and I guess A.I. has decided, "why not keep everything in C major, that will make life easier" 😂 all the effort and time to go into this video for basically a glorified atpeggiater.
Glad I watched. Was all prepared to be angry, instead I'm giggling. At least for now, as said below, we have to have Bach for Bach
This is horrific. I actually know more than a little bit about Bach, his compositional style, his historical stylistic and technical environs, his technical counterpoint, his cumulated output, and so on. This sounds like "Bach" only to someone who has only a cartoon idea of what "Bach" means. What I hear is utterly ignorant counterpoint that would not pass for the output of a first-day composition student. This is the dumbing-down of the human world in which ChatGPT and its brethren are a major (malef)actor. For me, being able to represent the glory, ignomy, and tragedy of God being voluntarily nailed to a cross for our sake (and I do not hold his religious belief) in such a way as the St. Matthew Passion has done for coming up on 300 years, moving people of every and no faith, nationality, or background with the intellectual and emotional texture and force of that narrative -- when ChatGPT can do that, ping me. When ChatGPT can write chorale preludes like BWV 622 that tell a story already known to the listener in colors, shades, and textures over the course of 6 minutes, send me a message. Or portray the entire emotional landscape of what it means to be human in 15 minutes as does the Chaconne from the D minor violin sonata -- send me an email.
This is an insult not only to Bach, but to those of use who have studied and promulgated his masterpieces for a lifetime. And mind you, software has been my professional career.
I actually wanted this to work. Are you kidding me! All the work to end up with that? We could have had an endless supply of js Bach music and AI has let me down. Hopefully in the future this actually works
Dude, I really enjoyed this video.
Aphex Twin, Wendy Carlos and Bach in the same video. Yes please!
Thanks for your work !
Bach is one thing, but no ai can replicate the emotional impact of Ryo Kawasaki's music for Fumetsu no Anata e.
Someone, sooner or later, was going to write the Einstein equations - the ideas underlying Relativity went back at least to Galileo.
It just happens that the Einstein equations were written by Einstein.
But nobody apart from J.S. Bach was going to write the intro to Cantata 29 - Wir danken dir, Gott, wir danken dir. Look it up and have a listen.
Likewise, if Beethoven had died before completing any of his landmark symphonies (#3, #5, #9), nobody else would have been able to write them'
This video shows me that, whatever we may try to fabricate as musical forms, they can only be the results of programming.
Worth doing, but not convincing.
Anyone remember C.P.U. Bach by Sid Meier? It came out in the mid 90's. On the Wikipedia page for it there's a link to the the original patent which may be of interest.
You got me to subscribe with the intro alone, I love the aesthetic of the video, content is fantastic too!
"Johann! Oh, dear." Cerrá y vamos, me hizo la decada.
It sounds hollow, no emotions, just hollow sound
And now you can do Bach too!🤥 GPT is so encourageable.
wow, truly what a time to be alive
Thanks for another fun and enlightening video!
u got me dude, great channel
Scarlett JOHANsson AI voice narration at 3:26 is a fine touch.
I did something similar to this a couple of months ago and got pretty similar results. There is a tool called csv2midi. After we agreed on the format it was fairly easy to do the generations and conversions. I didnt do Bach, but I had it generate chords, pads, drums, melody and a couple of other tracks. It was okay, but it wasn't hugely impressive. That said, it seemed like we are pretty close to a breakthrough with the pipeline. Great video.
This is the way, ...take a catchy melody and make variations with AI
Terminator after seeing this video : “I’ll be Bach“
Loved the Scarlett Johannson detail
I wish your channel fantastic success, your work is top level.
You are pure genius.
You've earned yourself a sub.
Hey @nobodyandthecomputer
Just wanted to give you a big shout-out and say thanks for your amazing videos! My knowledge in music theory is very basic, but I absolutely love the way you break down complex concepts in such funny retro-way. - I just felt the 80's sunrises- . Your videos have opened my eyes and ears to a whole new view to music, and I can't thank you enough for sharing your expertise. Keep rocking!
Have a very good one!🎉
I'm very glad to find that my future as a composer is safe (or to put it another way...that was atrocious).
this is not going to work, because counterpoint, even as it is made of interwoven melodic lines, is actually based on four-part chordal harmony. You need to feed the system with Bach chorales first, so it gets an understanding of harmonic motion on chords alone. Then ask it to provide passing notes, cadences, etc. You build its sense of composition in the same order one learns composition in school.
It's just churning out sine waves !
So cool! Grazie!!! Greetings from Italy🤩
This is very well put together great job!
Also
It may just be me but I seem to be finding Wes anderson style everything these days. and I love it.
At 5:17, what did the AI make of "intrincate"? Maybe a typo put things off the rails? There was no diagnostic, though.
very well done video
Interesting how it may all be musically sound and perfectly follow the instructions guided by music theory, yet it still sounds like it was written by either an AI or a teenager who just discovered a midi app and is messing around with it. There's something we're missing when it comes to music. Even the highest quality synthesized music makes you go 'oh that sounds just like real classical music' it doesn't make you have whatever reaction you'd have to a genuine Bach piece because something in you can tell it's just not quite right.
Love this....eventually it will happen that we'll not know how "creativity" is generated , what it serves I don't know, that is the problem. We're just cull just the past?
Could you use RUclips's dubbing feature? I'm from Brazil and would like to share the video, but my friends don't speak English. Dubbing in Brazilian Portuguese would make the video easier to understand. I found your explanation very interesting.
the uncanny valley is strong with this one
I keep thinking about CaryKH's work on something similar with HyperGAN and other stuff years and years ago
YESS> PLEASE. I NEED THIS. Every since they took down musenet ive been depressed. I dont want Audio - want midi
The Bach / Aphex Twin combo is mind blowing 🤯
J. S. Bach was obviously much smarter than modern AI.
Convincingly light years away from the spiritual of JSB
The AI rabbit hole brought me here. AI is super interesting to me, and the YT algorithm already knows I like music. After a couple minutes in, I had to look at your subscriber count, only to be highly surprised you have just under 20K, and not 200K. Keep doing what you're doing man, you've got "it".
very interesting indeed
Great work. I wonder how many dozens of hours you put to create such an interesting video.
Excellent!!
Very interesting. I would love to see a video on how you would prompt engineer for good lyrics. I notice ChatGPT forces rhymes to painful lengths at times.
Very nice!!!
Long live the King of music.
Very well narrated and executed!
Now I know the real future of music
This makes me feel a lot better about ChatGPT vs human. I think the final piece was the most interesting, but as for emulating J. S. Bach, whether through a Wendy Carlos lens or not, I think it was kind of an epic fail. YAY!!!
The one at 11:30 is the best IMO. I could see that evolving in some ongoing way. It has a Bach-ish complexity. Anything with counterpoint is truly impressive. btw who does the GPT voice--Scarlett Johansson?
Maybe put the prelude midi on harpsichord and increase the tempo then reverse (mirror) the whole midi stream to make it longer. Great video!
I have 900 fugues transposed to midi from Bach for Akai MPC and Force and Ableton
Awesome video sir! Wondering what tool you used to make the intro?
I am a composer, I've learned a Bach Lute Suite, BM in music composition, and synth obsessed. I definitely want to learn how to do this. It made me laugh how far it sounded; to me the second one really had a renaissance vibe, sorta Franco-flemish. I find the images and voices make me somatically uncomfortable for some reason- I feel it in my hands. MIDI instruments do the same. I only want the raw midi data to mess with the written music. I chat with the one that is open source but the information stops at Sept 2021. Maybe it can still do this.
It understands ABC format right out of the box and there are online sites that can convert that notation. That's easier than teaching it simplified midi. In my eown experiments it generated similar melodies. It loves that rising and descending diatonic thirds thing.
Fabulous video and concept. The music was… well, pretty bad, but that’s,not really the point. Great work - subbed. Cheers. Lee
what is your DAW ? i love your work
Thanks!