Wow. Amazing that how much work you have put into this and the level of detail you are looking at. A real test of the boundaries of these LLMs and extraction of something totally new. You have some real skill! Beautiful ending with the guitar!
Fun tip when using Eleveb Labs so as not to end up with monotonous sounding cloned voices such as the ones that are featured in this video: crank the stability level right down and the clarity levels right up you'll get voices that sound more realistic, albeit some of them might be a tad cracked, it takes a little finessing but it turns out a lot better and has a bit more dynamism in the range of tonality.
What if: You give a prompt with all information regarding form: a piece in a sonata form. With further details: the bridge between A and B should follow standard modulation. Then you give more information about motives: motive 1 on part A should use triplets mostly by intervals of 3, 4, and 5 with some diatonic steps. Then you give some harmonic: should make it clear the antagony between harmony on A and B. You can go to the texture: A uses a more spaced voicing while B uses more polifony. As for the development section, it should sound like the bridge from the exposition section, but uses more chromaticism from all the neighbors major and minor tonality. So, maybe if you give more specific orders, you can get a deeper result, and not this dull elevator music. ❤
It's crazy how LLMs seem to fail at music like at math. There's no musical sense or connection to the prompt, to me at least it all sounds random, with some chorale or fugue stuff blended into it? On the other hand Suno v3 has musical coherence, but for the time being you have no control over the output. I tried putting 'Beethoven' as the description but the result had nothing to do with Beethoven haha. For now it seems to be biased in 'corny cliché music' :P
From what I've seen of computer-generated music, each series of a few bars, in isolation, sounds right, but it doesn't reproduce the bigger structures. It doesn't have introductions and climaxes, but seems to just be 'noodling'. I suspect this has something to do with the fact that music theory, too, is very good at describing small-scale structures in detail, but gets quite vague when it talks about bigger structures. You have to 'just sort of know' the bigger structures, learning by listening without being able to write down what you've learned, to be able to write music.
It's impressive that the final composition by Claude remind me AF the original sountrack from the movie "Her", supposed to be composed in the movie by the AI main charachter.
You could use ABC notation, for which players already exist. I've tested it with Claude and Claude 3 and it worked fine when I prompted them to just write in ABC notation.
Is it me or did we just have a Punk Sinatra cameo at 16:08? All jokes aside, I'm a fan of your work. It's deep, fun and instructive. I have a feeling I'll possibly join the collective when my time comes to experiment with A.I. properly. Have an awesome week, my friend!
Damn I did not expect the guitar at the end. It is awesome. This is really a improvement since last videos. This was really awesome. I really want to work on the AI classical music myself, I hope you won’t mind if I use some of your stuff for inspiration and would you?
Look, it's no Zaythoven, but if anyone switched up this for their kid's Baby Mozart, I think the kid would still turn out just as messed up either way. Thanks for this.
Concerning AI's reincarnation of Beethoven - All that glitters is not gold! While the AI may have sprinkled it with fairy dust, that dust had no magic and the music sounded like an old shoe found in a garbage dump by the side of a country road.
Heard Suno AI music yesterday, I was very impressed. Been spending a few weeks with Stable Diffusion XL turbo on my Pi5. Midi based music should be doable.
thank you, dumbGPT. that shit sounds absolutely nothing like Beethoven. Human creativity is safe. Go power robots to plant potatoes and mine asteroids...
Another outstanding job on the video. Something I find funny about the discussion in regards to AI and art is how it differs drastically from the visual artists and the audio artists. The painters out their are up in arms and screaming that AI can't make art. On the musician and composer side, it seems like we've already accepted that it's art. It may not be the best art around, but to claim this isn't music and that there is no artistic merit to it is pretty fringe at this point in regards to compositions like this.
AI doesn’t make art. It’s like counterfeiting money: you can make a dollar bill identical to a real one, but ony if the State makes it, it counts. If an AI makes music it doesn’t have the same meaning as when we make it, so it’s not art. I don’t see either the need to call it art. You can enjoy it even if it is an imitation.
@@federicoaschieri an AI generated image won an art competition. The person submitting the image didn't tell anyone what it actually was. By whatever means qualified them to be judges of art, the judges of this competition were not just unable to differenciate the AI work from the human works, but found the image so compelling that it should be recognized as the best of all submissions. If you don't feel that AI generated works meet your criteria for what you personally consider to qualify as "art," then just say that. Say, "It doesn't live up to my standards." That's fine; no one can really argue with the way that you feel. When you make statements which carry an implicit demand that your personal standards be recognized and adopted by everyone else, however, others will be justified if they choose to raise an objection to that demand. _You_ may not think this stuff is art, but the example I began this with shows that there are people out there who _do_ think of it as art. Even some who likely have more qualifications than you do to be making such judgements. Believing you're right and everyone else is wrong is not the most rational view..
@@SineEyed As I said, false one hundred dollar bills may fool some people, but it doesn't mean that they're authentic and count as money. Similarly, AI imitates art, but doesn't make art. Art comes from humans as a mean of expression, while AI just copies what we do. It would never invent genuinely interesting new music, because music to AI is nothing, and AI can only follow. Beethoven invented a completely new style of making music, and if you trained an AI only with what comes before Beethoven, you would never get such a beauty. Comparing AI to humans is just anthropomorphism. AI operates differently from human, and it's not an artist. Listening to a love song by AI, for example, would be grotesque. That's of course my opinion, but probably I have far more qualifications than you do...😅
@@federicoaschieri perhaps that's true, but you'd need to do far better than simply out-qualifying me to be reasonably justified in your position. You would need to out-qualify everyone else on earth to expect anyone to abide by what you alone claim to truly be "art". Absent that, it's like... just your opinion, man..
@@SineEyed My positions is backed by logic, I don’t need qualifications to make logic valid. I have the musical competence, and that’s enough for knowing what I’m talking about. The rest is pure reasoning
I'm confused. Are you saying they're good? I like your process but none of the three deliver. My concern is that human adaptability will decend to this AI level much quicker than AI gets to a human level. I would hate for us to be dumbed down by a fascination with itterative technology. OK it's fun to do but is it worth anything?
AI does a good job of simulating the Dunning-Kruger effect in its feed back chat.
Wow. Amazing that how much work you have put into this and the level of detail you are looking at. A real test of the boundaries of these LLMs and extraction of something totally new. You have some real skill! Beautiful ending with the guitar!
Your content is next level. Interesting, fun, deep.
That's what she said?
@@pixelperfectpravin Reading this makes me appreciate AI even more
Kindred spirits come to the same conclusion
I love the way you describe all the steps to get from idea to execution
Bravo! You are truly pushing the boundaries of the AI and human creative collaboration.
Fun tip when using Eleveb Labs so as not to end up with monotonous sounding cloned voices such as the ones that are featured in this video: crank the stability level right down and the clarity levels right up you'll get voices that sound more realistic, albeit some of them might be a tad cracked, it takes a little finessing but it turns out a lot better and has a bit more dynamism in the range of tonality.
But seriously nothing grinds on the ears of a seasoned A I enthusiast more than the sound of an unrefined cloned voice from Eleven Labs.
Feel like he does that on purpose.
What if:
You give a prompt with all information regarding form: a piece in a sonata form. With further details: the bridge between A and B should follow standard modulation.
Then you give more information about motives: motive 1 on part A should use triplets mostly by intervals of 3, 4, and 5 with some diatonic steps.
Then you give some harmonic: should make it clear the antagony between harmony on A and B.
You can go to the texture: A uses a more spaced voicing while B uses more polifony.
As for the development section, it should sound like the bridge from the exposition section, but uses more chromaticism from all the neighbors major and minor tonality.
So, maybe if you give more specific orders, you can get a deeper result, and not this dull elevator music.
❤
Most slept on AI artist. Bravo
I can't stop watching all the A.I films! I am a fan now ❤😊
It's crazy how LLMs seem to fail at music like at math. There's no musical sense or connection to the prompt, to me at least it all sounds random, with some chorale or fugue stuff blended into it? On the other hand Suno v3 has musical coherence, but for the time being you have no control over the output. I tried putting 'Beethoven' as the description but the result had nothing to do with Beethoven haha. For now it seems to be biased in 'corny cliché music' :P
these videos are so amazing, just keep making them and you'll catch the wave
From what I've seen of computer-generated music, each series of a few bars, in isolation, sounds right, but it doesn't reproduce the bigger structures. It doesn't have introductions and climaxes, but seems to just be 'noodling'.
I suspect this has something to do with the fact that music theory, too, is very good at describing small-scale structures in detail, but gets quite vague when it talks about bigger structures. You have to 'just sort of know' the bigger structures, learning by listening without being able to write down what you've learned, to be able to write music.
that was beautiful guitar solo thanks man
It's impressive that the final composition by Claude remind me AF the original sountrack from the movie "Her", supposed to be composed in the movie by the AI main charachter.
Triumph and resilience. Beautiful.
This channel brings me so much joy 😅
You could use ABC notation, for which players already exist. I've tested it with Claude and Claude 3 and it worked fine when I prompted them to just write in ABC notation.
You and the community are awsome. TNX for exploring this value of expression it is very important work. Steady on!
Probably my favourite video of yours, especially the end. Bravo and thank you again for your work!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Some of the best content on RUclips 😊
Yea, ummmm, im a HUGE fan of your videos. Appreciate the work that goes into creating these masterpieces!
Dude, you are reinventing the Lilypond notation
13:13 First time I see a score arrangement with the right hand below the left hand.
yeah 🤣
sounds beautiful on guitar
Is it me or did we just have a Punk Sinatra cameo at 16:08?
All jokes aside, I'm a fan of your work. It's deep, fun and instructive. I have a feeling I'll possibly join the collective when my time comes to experiment with A.I. properly. Have an awesome week, my friend!
Que locura! Los Dj ponen play, los creadores copian y pegan! El futuro de la memusique! Nobody and the computer , you re the best hackerpunk ever!
Everyone at spiegelmkt love your content, keep bringing AI to the table ✨ thanks
thanks! 😘
You're inspiring. Thank you
woow, congratulations for the channel! amazin videos. exploring ai as a real artists does!
can we have that prompt?
Damn I did not expect the guitar at the end. It is awesome. This is really a improvement since last videos. This was really awesome. I really want to work on the AI classical music myself, I hope you won’t mind if I use some of your stuff for inspiration and would you?
thanks, friend, i'm glad you like it and sure, use whatever you want!
Sample me
You have something interesting to say and an interesting way to say it.
Another genius video drop. Bravo maestro!
Look, it's no Zaythoven, but if anyone switched up this for their kid's Baby Mozart, I think the kid would still turn out just as messed up either way. Thanks for this.
you always rocks! superb channel bro!
Thank you so much 😀
Concerning AI's reincarnation of Beethoven - All that glitters is not gold! While the AI may have sprinkled it with fairy dust, that dust had no magic and the music sounded like an old shoe found in a garbage dump by the side of a country road.
For now...
exactly. Thank you for not being a dumb bot like the rest of the comments...
That's funny. They said the same thing about Elvis' music.
Great work! This video is an inspiration to strive for better ai content
Capo total...!! 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
capo so vo
Heard Suno AI music yesterday, I was very impressed. Been spending a few weeks with Stable Diffusion XL turbo on my Pi5. Midi based music should be doable.
With a bit more training and a bit of pep in the pace.
This A.I. will come of age to lay out a whole concert piece.
The 4th wall breaking was nice and must never reoccur xo
15:36 lol you are now a Beethoven composer ... really cool
this is peak content
Very interesting! Thanks ❤
Roll over Beethoven 🎵
Are you using Dasha Nekrasova's voice?
Did I hear Scarlet Johansson's voice reading Gemini text?
I heard a hint of Chopin ironically...
Wow. Thank you.
wonderful metaphor for modern, politically compliant production.
We want more !
Way to split the wig killa 🔊🔊🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Go ludwig ....VAN....(von)
Everybody in the house make some noise
I cant hear you
I cant hear you
beautiful man !
Maybe it was the tube amp but it sounded much better when you played it
thank you, dumbGPT. that shit sounds absolutely nothing like Beethoven. Human creativity is safe. Go power robots to plant potatoes and mine asteroids...
“Facinating”
You should definitely try suno AI v3 it's just too crazy !!
Bro good content please make video editing course series thanks
You asked for Beethoven and got Brian Eno
I've been experimenting with GPT 4 and MusicXML. Better than 3.5, but still has ways to go.
Prox was here
amazing!
*Play at 2x speed ;)*
13:53 15:03 15:32
And then Suno v3 comes along...
I approve
12:25 😍😍😍
Ludwig van my man
Subbed!
yum yum
Narfle the garthok!
Another outstanding job on the video. Something I find funny about the discussion in regards to AI and art is how it differs drastically from the visual artists and the audio artists. The painters out their are up in arms and screaming that AI can't make art. On the musician and composer side, it seems like we've already accepted that it's art. It may not be the best art around, but to claim this isn't music and that there is no artistic merit to it is pretty fringe at this point in regards to compositions like this.
AI doesn’t make art. It’s like counterfeiting money: you can make a dollar bill identical to a real one, but ony if the State makes it, it counts. If an AI makes music it doesn’t have the same meaning as when we make it, so it’s not art. I don’t see either the need to call it art. You can enjoy it even if it is an imitation.
@@federicoaschieri an AI generated image won an art competition. The person submitting the image didn't tell anyone what it actually was. By whatever means qualified them to be judges of art, the judges of this competition were not just unable to differenciate the AI work from the human works, but found the image so compelling that it should be recognized as the best of all submissions.
If you don't feel that AI generated works meet your criteria for what you personally consider to qualify as "art," then just say that. Say, "It doesn't live up to my standards." That's fine; no one can really argue with the way that you feel. When you make statements which carry an implicit demand that your personal standards be recognized and adopted by everyone else, however, others will be justified if they choose to raise an objection to that demand.
_You_ may not think this stuff is art, but the example I began this with shows that there are people out there who _do_ think of it as art. Even some who likely have more qualifications than you do to be making such judgements. Believing you're right and everyone else is wrong is not the most rational view..
@@SineEyed As I said, false one hundred dollar bills may fool some people, but it doesn't mean that they're authentic and count as money. Similarly, AI imitates art, but doesn't make art. Art comes from humans as a mean of expression, while AI just copies what we do. It would never invent genuinely interesting new music, because music to AI is nothing, and AI can only follow. Beethoven invented a completely new style of making music, and if you trained an AI only with what comes before Beethoven, you would never get such a beauty. Comparing AI to humans is just anthropomorphism. AI operates differently from human, and it's not an artist. Listening to a love song by AI, for example, would be grotesque. That's of course my opinion, but probably I have far more qualifications than you do...😅
@@federicoaschieri perhaps that's true, but you'd need to do far better than simply out-qualifying me to be reasonably justified in your position. You would need to out-qualify everyone else on earth to expect anyone to abide by what you alone claim to truly be "art". Absent that, it's like... just your opinion, man..
@@SineEyed My positions is backed by logic, I don’t need qualifications to make logic valid. I have the musical competence, and that’s enough for knowing what I’m talking about. The rest is pure reasoning
👍
Um… well, not really Beethoven. But you will improve.
I'm confused. Are you saying they're good? I like your process but none of the three deliver. My concern is that human adaptability will decend to this AI level much quicker than AI gets to a human level. I would hate for us to be dumbed down by a fascination with itterative technology. OK it's fun to do but is it worth anything?
❤
I can't decide if this is a troll, or you are serious.
Anyway, these pieces are really bad.
Just found your channel. Downvote for nearly blowing my eardrops out with that intro. Please turn it down.