offroadfreak8582 seems to work well and it’s simple. Stops charging on it’s own so you don’t have to babysit it. I don’t think I’d leave it overnight, but you probably could.
Do you know the procedure to dewinterize the battery? I thought I read in the manual that you connect the batter to the bike from the stored state and ride it down to like 10% and then fully charge it. but I cant find it now.
You’re pretty close. Just ride it until it codes dead. Here’s the exact quote: “If the KTM PowerPack has not been used for more than six months, start by discharging the KTM PowerPack until the vehicle switches off with blink code 11. Then recharge the KTM PowerPack completely.”
Hey John. Great content. I saw you charging the battery with 110 using an inverter. Could you provide info on the plug adapter and inverter. I did not see it in the short that you made.
Voltage transformer/converter: amzn.to/4dYXnsk no need for an adapter because the KTM charger is a two prong Euro plug. You just don’t use the 220 adapter that came with the charger. Kind of nice to remove one part when you add another 😋 Hope that helps 🤙
Hey John - thanks for the video. Have you heard anything about a 2021 model? I've looked on the website but can't see any info? Thinking about buying one but want to make sure I wait if they're bringing out a slightly updated model. Thanks
Yes. That’s the way I do it most of the time. Just have to make sure to charge the little 12v accessory battery under the seat from time to time or it can throw a code and power the bike off.
I was trying to look into that myself for a while. I suspect no, unless the charging station had some sort of normal socket (230v) that you could adapt to. The bike has a separate bike specific charger set up for a (Euro) wall, just like if you were to charge a lot of EVs at home, you'd need a EV socket installed in your garage or whatever. If you come across a solution to this, please let me know!
Hey, I tried to put my charger to storage mode, but there is everytime an error that pops up. When I charge my bike in normal mode everything is fine. I can not ride for a few months (cold and snow) so storage mode would be now advantageous, what do I do wrong?
Storage Mode only charges the battery to 50% I think. If the battery has more charge than that, it would likely error. If the battery is below 50% and erroring, then that's another story. I believe the manual has a list of error codes. You should also remove the battery to charge on storage mode. Don't forget to disconnect the little terminal clips on the 12v battery for the winter too. Snow is a blast, I'd keep riding 😋
Never even heard of and "Electrify America" station until 2 mins ago when I searched online for it. Short answer is doubtful. The proprietary charger charges off 240v plugs at a max of 13a. Those charging stations have Auto EV plugs and much higher output.
All (..and any..) the info is good 👍 not disappointed at all. When you say "returned 110v," was it crap right out of the box? I'v already bought a step-up / step-down converter, works great, try the Krueger. It's a bit buzzy & pricey but stays cool and feels solid build. Thought I'd be the first to try it on the E-ride, but you are on it like Sherlock homeboy 👍 Keep it up!
Dan Valley yep, a converter. Glad to hear it’s working well for you. Charging is not as much trouble as haters want people to believe. Yes, mine was DOA (different brand). I had it for about a month before I tried it. Returned it on the very last day it was eligible 🤣 (1st week April?). It’s pretty easy to charge it off my dryer. There is no 120v outlet close to my bike storage, so just as easy to pull the battery and take it inside. The rest of the time I charge at my friends place while we work on the jumps, so I haven’t really needed to get another one. Appreciate you 🤙
I can measure them later when I get home, but if I had to guess they are probably 4ft each (8ft). I’lll try and follow up on this later though. I charge out of the bike mostly because I can’t bring the whole bike indoors to the outlet.
I wish I had an easy answer for you, but I don’t. It depends on how much you turn your wrist. I’ve gotten as little as 25min to as much as 2h30min. 11-30 miles. Most of the batteries drained on this channel end up being around 15-20 miles, 50min to 1h10. It’s about like having 1.4gal of fuel in a 250cc 2T trail bike. Think a V8 engine… drive 50mph on the hwy and get 18-20mpg, start stomping on the pedal drag racing and get 2mpg.
Great video, what would you recommend for 110 volt charging for the 2022 models? Did KTM include the necessary cables for that to happen? I would like to charge this bike's battery using my Plug in Hybrid SUV which has 2 x 1500 watt outlets and a 50 ah battery storage. My son has the Husky EE 5 electric MX bike, but I haven't tried charging his bike from the car (the charger pretty massive too). I am able to charge OSET MX 10 batteries from the 1500 watt outlet of my car. Thanks.
You'd have to get a voltage converter. 3000w to be safe. Buy them online about $150. That would be from a wall though. Not sure about the 1500w part and the converter. I'm No electrician by any stretch of the imagination. They needed to be on a dedicated 15-20amp plug/breaker when charging from a 110v wall. I never successfully did it, because my converter was faulty. The charger is proprietary. It for sure does some system checks on the battery and power source before it'll charge. Only time mine refused to charge was when it was too hot at the moto track and when it popped the breaker with the faulty converter. 80% of the time I just unplug my dryer and charge the battery out of the bike. My friend had the correct 240v plug installed in his house (this video), so every once in a while I top up there. If you figure it out, please report back here. I'd love to know every option I have to charge this thing because I'd thought about shipping it to races.
@@JohnHowerton137 Hey thanks for the response. I will figure it out as I am surrounded by heavy EV bike enthusiasts up here (Surrons, Stealth etc). I wouldn't dare ask anyone at the MX track when my 5 year old races, everyone is old school ICE, which is cool...so I want to stay cool and not push electric too much since my son is the only kid riding electric.
Those E5s are sick. Having managed a shop for 8 years... if my 5yo was on minis, he would not be on ICE. Those things are a nightmare. Every mini dad is dying to get on 65s 🤣
@@JohnHowerton137 lol yep! Once dads realize I don't ever have to deal with air filters or oil mixing...they want to know more. It also helps that Stacycs are so popular now, so I don't get as much flak out on the track. No one at the track knows what a Stealth Electric Bomber is, so most dads think I don't ride at all. Part of my reason why I want to get on the E-XC so I can at least take my son into the MX trails, and later, get an equivalent of an Alta when brands start pumping out a MX track specific bike. A lot of kids I met last weekend who are on the EE 5 and KTM equivalent, told me that the top map, 4 and 5 (5 is basically 4 but with regen reverse throttle option) can rival kids on 65s. From what I have seen of some of the kids in California, I don't doubt it, those kids get serious air time and crush motos.
@@BWT599 the worst part about minis is the clutches. None of that crap on the E5. Yes, those E5 are not far off the 65s. I have a world of fun on my Freeride. Rode 12hrs on my gas bike last year and 45hrs on my Freeride 🤷♂️ Just more convenient to ride with the no noise thing.
You mentioned about how to charge off of a 110v. I have had my e-XC for about 4 months now and trying to get creative than having to wait until i get home to my 220v outlet. Also how much solar do you have hooked up to run your outlet? That’s rad.
The solar is the house system, so it powers everything... not just for the bike. You can use a voltage converter like this amzn.to/3hCc7Rg and shouldn’t need an adapter because the Freeride charge cable is a German Schuko plug. A generator with enough power is probably the best way away from home to change it. Most will need an adapter cable. I have video about all that too 🤙
Wish I could have made it. The voltage converter just tripped the breakers on my outlets, so I just unplug the dryer to charge instead. You basically just need one of these 3000w voltage converters: amzn.to/3gcxaeK this one even has the German Schuko plug that the Freeride cord uses.
@@JohnHowerton137 Probably nothing wrong with the converter. It's just Ohms' law. I'm not a physicist or electrical engineer, so I could definitely be wrong but if I recall my physics correctly V(volage) = I(amperage)R(resistance), therefore R = V/I. The resistance is fixed in the device, so that means that doubling the voltage will double the current pull (amperage) which is probably why the breaker flips.
@@trn450 yeah, beats me. My buddy is an electrician and I asked him at the time. Not sure exactly what he said anymore but he wasn't impressed that it was tripping. It was a dedicated 15A and it was popping. The KTM charger if memory serves me is 13A on high. I never even tried on high. Standard I think is 10A draw and it was popping on that. All I know is I didn't want to burn the damn house down, so I sent it back 🤣
Its the same thing. Sometimes its call 240 🤣 It's standard overseas, we're 110/120 standard in the USA. Your wall sockets are 110, your clothes dryer or welding plugs are 220/230. I generally charge my battery on my dryer socket in the house with an adaptor.
@@JohnHowerton137 Thats great news bc I had an electrician add an outdoor 220v for me the day before the bike delivered. Was worried I wasted money on the outlet. This bike is sick. People need to try it before judgment. I'm hooked.
@@rt5arge super fun bikes. I have some incredible riding memories on mine. I was going to sell it as I have a Varg waiting to be delivered, but I think I may just hold onto it and street legal it. I literally have no place or people to ride the Varg with anymore. My work commute is short so I can commute it and it's an amazing bike to teach newbies to ride on. And obviously, if you've seen my other videos... can have the crap ridden out of it too 🤣
@JohnHowerton137 sorry to hear about the riding buddies. Kinda same over here. I'm settled on doing the backyard freeride thing for now. Already dug out my track layout with the backwheel (lol).. just need some jumps. It's a very fast/smooth bike on a back yard track. Hope to get some dirt delivered for gaps and such.
Well this not intended to be a copout answer, but it HIGHLY varies based on terrain and rider ability. My battery can last 30min (track) to 4hrs (slow singletrack). That's moving time, not elapsed time. In the track conditions in this day, probably about 20mins. If there were corners added to the middle of the straight stretches at the track... maybe 30mins. Trail ride with speeds largely under 30mph, probably 3 hours. Best way to explain it... ride time/range is roughly the equivalent of about 1.5 gallons of petrol in a carbureted bike. So however long you normally ride on about a gallon of fuel... that's about what you'd get on an 80% charge... but only if you rode 1st-3rd gears. The Freeride is not fast fireroad bike, it's a master of the tight and gnar.
3 hrs around Not bad, thinking about to get one in Spain, the electric bikes are on a government program for help new owners But I’m still concerned about the duration of the battery for enduro
I got my bike today they fucking rip Way faster than I expected from an ebike. Could you make a video on how to clean it because I don’t want to damage the electrics thanks. It took me so long to find that switch to open the seat hahah
Pretty crazy how fast they can get away from you in Mode 3 eh? 🤣 Once you get used to the power delivery and using more throttle control they don’t “feel” as fast. It’s the fact that they don’t bog...ever! It hooks up or breaks loose, never bogs. As far as washing, everything is waterproof. I wouldn’t use high pressure water right at the battery or the front base of the battery. Even better would be just removing the battery and capping with the provided cap. That way you can get the goop that gets under the battery too which sits and corrodes the aluminum. I spray mine with silicone spray afterwards. Really hard corrosive water here. Aluminum gets furry. I’d make a video, but my bike has no suspension on it right now and won’t for a couple weeks yet. Tucker has a video ruclips.net/video/atIPOccEM1k/видео.html that basically says the same thing. Enjoy that thing! You’ll love it more every day and even more when your imagination starts to wander 🤣
That charger is quite the unit. Dang. Thanks for the info!
offroadfreak8582 seems to work well and it’s simple. Stops charging on it’s own so you don’t have to babysit it. I don’t think I’d leave it overnight, but you probably could.
Do you know the procedure to dewinterize the battery? I thought I read in the manual that you connect the batter to the bike from the stored state and ride it down to like 10% and then fully charge it. but I cant find it now.
You’re pretty close. Just ride it until it codes dead. Here’s the exact quote:
“If the KTM PowerPack has not been used for more than six months, start by discharging the KTM PowerPack until the vehicle switches off with blink code 11. Then recharge the KTM PowerPack completely.”
Hey John. Great content. I saw you charging the battery with 110 using an inverter. Could you provide info on the plug adapter and inverter. I did not see it in the short that you made.
Voltage transformer/converter: amzn.to/4dYXnsk no need for an adapter because the KTM charger is a two prong Euro plug. You just don’t use the 220 adapter that came with the charger. Kind of nice to remove one part when you add another 😋 Hope that helps 🤙
@@JohnHowerton137Thanks for the quick reply.
Hey John - thanks for the video. Have you heard anything about a 2021 model? I've looked on the website but can't see any info?
Thinking about buying one but want to make sure I wait if they're bringing out a slightly updated model. Thanks
Eveything the same except the brakes got updated to the new 85 brakes. I dont think there's even a release date as of yet.
Can you take of The Battery from The Bike and charge it inside
Yes. That’s the way I do it most of the time.
Just have to make sure to charge the little 12v accessory battery under the seat from time to time or it can throw a code and power the bike off.
hello can I recharge at a charging station like that of cars?
I was trying to look into that myself for a while. I suspect no, unless the charging station had some sort of normal socket (230v) that you could adapt to.
The bike has a separate bike specific charger set up for a (Euro) wall, just like if you were to charge a lot of EVs at home, you'd need a EV socket installed in your garage or whatever.
If you come across a solution to this, please let me know!
Hey, I tried to put my charger to storage mode, but there is everytime an error that pops up. When I charge my bike in normal mode everything is fine. I can not ride for a few months (cold and snow) so storage mode would be now advantageous, what do I do wrong?
Storage Mode only charges the battery to 50% I think. If the battery has more charge than that, it would likely error. If the battery is below 50% and erroring, then that's another story. I believe the manual has a list of error codes. You should also remove the battery to charge on storage mode. Don't forget to disconnect the little terminal clips on the 12v battery for the winter too.
Snow is a blast, I'd keep riding 😋
Who did your 220v outlet install? I need one installed for my bike in Kohala. Thanks
A friend. Not sure if he's interested in going up that way, but I could ask.
He said he could do it if you need. Contact me if you want.
Can u charge it at electrify America stations ?
Never even heard of and "Electrify America" station until 2 mins ago when I searched online for it.
Short answer is doubtful. The proprietary charger charges off 240v plugs at a max of 13a. Those charging stations have Auto EV plugs and much higher output.
if I leave it plugged in, even if it's at 100, does it break or can it be done?
If, like, I want to charge it at night…
It pauses when it’s done. I’ve never left it more than a few hours, but I don’t see it being a problem.
@@JohnHowerton137 Thank you very much for answering!!! :D
Anytime 🤙
All (..and any..) the info is good 👍 not disappointed at all.
When you say "returned 110v," was it crap right out of the box?
I'v already bought a step-up / step-down converter, works great, try the Krueger. It's a bit buzzy & pricey but stays cool and feels solid build. Thought I'd be the first to try it on the E-ride, but you are on it like Sherlock homeboy 👍
Keep it up!
Dan Valley yep, a converter. Glad to hear it’s working well for you. Charging is not as much trouble as haters want people to believe. Yes, mine was DOA (different brand). I had it for about a month before I tried it. Returned it on the very last day it was eligible 🤣 (1st week April?).
It’s pretty easy to charge it off my dryer. There is no 120v outlet close to my bike storage, so just as easy to pull the battery and take it inside. The rest of the time I charge at my friends place while we work on the jumps, so I haven’t really needed to get another one.
Appreciate you 🤙
Which krieger did you get, the 1700w. Because i thought the bike needs at least 2300 watts to charge (230v @ 10amps).
How long are the charging cables? Dealer here is clueless. What's the maximum distance I can reach from outlet to bike? Thx
I can measure them later when I get home, but if I had to guess they are probably 4ft each (8ft). I’lll try and follow up on this later though. I charge out of the bike mostly because I can’t bring the whole bike indoors to the outlet.
Looks like the cables are 6ft each, so full stretch is about 11-12ft.
How long do you get out of a full battery charge
I wish I had an easy answer for you, but I don’t. It depends on how much you turn your wrist. I’ve gotten as little as 25min to as much as 2h30min. 11-30 miles. Most of the batteries drained on this channel end up being around 15-20 miles, 50min to 1h10.
It’s about like having 1.4gal of fuel in a 250cc 2T trail bike. Think a V8 engine… drive 50mph on the hwy and get 18-20mpg, start stomping on the pedal drag racing and get 2mpg.
How do I charge this 110? Not everyone has a 220.
A voltage converter like this: amzn.to/3DbQXUR The KTM cable has a Schuko plug, so it should plug right in.
If you pull the battery out of the bike and have a clothes dryer in your house… you can adapt to that plug. This is what I do 90% of the time.
@@JohnHowerton137 OLY shit an answer to my many problems! THANKS!
@@JohnHowerton137 I weirdly have a standard 110 plug for my dryer.
You positive this would work?
Does that large ktm charger come with the bike?
In the USA it does.
Great video, what would you recommend for 110 volt charging for the 2022 models? Did KTM include the necessary cables for that to happen? I would like to charge this bike's battery using my Plug in Hybrid SUV which has 2 x 1500 watt outlets and a 50 ah battery storage. My son has the Husky EE 5 electric MX bike, but I haven't tried charging his bike from the car (the charger pretty massive too). I am able to charge OSET MX 10 batteries from the 1500 watt outlet of my car. Thanks.
You'd have to get a voltage converter. 3000w to be safe. Buy them online about $150. That would be from a wall though. Not sure about the 1500w part and the converter. I'm No electrician by any stretch of the imagination. They needed to be on a dedicated 15-20amp plug/breaker when charging from a 110v wall. I never successfully did it, because my converter was faulty.
The charger is proprietary. It for sure does some system checks on the battery and power source before it'll charge. Only time mine refused to charge was when it was too hot at the moto track and when it popped the breaker with the faulty converter.
80% of the time I just unplug my dryer and charge the battery out of the bike. My friend had the correct 240v plug installed in his house (this video), so every once in a while I top up there.
If you figure it out, please report back here. I'd love to know every option I have to charge this thing because I'd thought about shipping it to races.
@@JohnHowerton137 Hey thanks for the response. I will figure it out as I am surrounded by heavy EV bike enthusiasts up here (Surrons, Stealth etc). I wouldn't dare ask anyone at the MX track when my 5 year old races, everyone is old school ICE, which is cool...so I want to stay cool and not push electric too much since my son is the only kid riding electric.
Those E5s are sick. Having managed a shop for 8 years... if my 5yo was on minis, he would not be on ICE. Those things are a nightmare. Every mini dad is dying to get on 65s 🤣
@@JohnHowerton137 lol yep! Once dads realize I don't ever have to deal with air filters or oil mixing...they want to know more. It also helps that Stacycs are so popular now, so I don't get as much flak out on the track. No one at the track knows what a Stealth Electric Bomber is, so most dads think I don't ride at all. Part of my reason why I want to get on the E-XC so I can at least take my son into the MX trails, and later, get an equivalent of an Alta when brands start pumping out a MX track specific bike. A lot of kids I met last weekend who are on the EE 5 and KTM equivalent, told me that the top map, 4 and 5 (5 is basically 4 but with regen reverse throttle option) can rival kids on 65s. From what I have seen of some of the kids in California, I don't doubt it, those kids get serious air time and crush motos.
@@BWT599 the worst part about minis is the clutches. None of that crap on the E5. Yes, those E5 are not far off the 65s.
I have a world of fun on my Freeride. Rode 12hrs on my gas bike last year and 45hrs on my Freeride 🤷♂️ Just more convenient to ride with the no noise thing.
You mentioned about how to charge off of a 110v. I have had my e-XC for about 4 months now and trying to get creative than having to wait until i get home to my 220v outlet. Also how much solar do you have hooked up to run your outlet? That’s rad.
The solar is the house system, so it powers everything... not just for the bike. You can use a voltage converter like this amzn.to/3hCc7Rg and shouldn’t need an adapter because the Freeride charge cable is a German Schuko plug.
A generator with enough power is probably the best way away from home to change it. Most will need an adapter cable. I have video about all that too 🤙
I need the 110v video
Wish I could have made it. The voltage converter just tripped the breakers on my outlets, so I just unplug the dryer to charge instead.
You basically just need one of these 3000w voltage converters: amzn.to/3gcxaeK this one even has the German Schuko plug that the Freeride cord uses.
@@JohnHowerton137 Probably nothing wrong with the converter. It's just Ohms' law. I'm not a physicist or electrical engineer, so I could definitely be wrong but if I recall my physics correctly V(volage) = I(amperage)R(resistance), therefore R = V/I. The resistance is fixed in the device, so that means that doubling the voltage will double the current pull (amperage) which is probably why the breaker flips.
@@trn450 yeah, beats me. My buddy is an electrician and I asked him at the time. Not sure exactly what he said anymore but he wasn't impressed that it was tripping. It was a dedicated 15A and it was popping. The KTM charger if memory serves me is 13A on high. I never even tried on high. Standard I think is 10A draw and it was popping on that. All I know is I didn't want to burn the damn house down, so I sent it back 🤣
@@JohnHowerton137 ha ha. Yeah, not burning the house down is generally a good idea.
Just got my 2023 model and the KTM manual says use 230v - so confusing as every video says 220v lol
Its the same thing. Sometimes its call 240 🤣 It's standard overseas, we're 110/120 standard in the USA. Your wall sockets are 110, your clothes dryer or welding plugs are 220/230.
I generally charge my battery on my dryer socket in the house with an adaptor.
@@JohnHowerton137 Thats great news bc I had an electrician add an outdoor 220v for me the day before the bike delivered. Was worried I wasted money on the outlet. This bike is sick. People need to try it before judgment. I'm hooked.
@@rt5arge super fun bikes. I have some incredible riding memories on mine. I was going to sell it as I have a Varg waiting to be delivered, but I think I may just hold onto it and street legal it. I literally have no place or people to ride the Varg with anymore. My work commute is short so I can commute it and it's an amazing bike to teach newbies to ride on. And obviously, if you've seen my other videos... can have the crap ridden out of it too 🤣
@JohnHowerton137 sorry to hear about the riding buddies. Kinda same over here. I'm settled on doing the backyard freeride thing for now. Already dug out my track layout with the backwheel (lol).. just need some jumps. It's a very fast/smooth bike on a back yard track. Hope to get some dirt delivered for gaps and such.
@@rt5arge my backyard track buddy in the videos broke his leg badly 6 months ago, so the backyard track got bulldozed and his Freeride sold 😔
How long the battery normally last after the 1’5hr charge?
Well this not intended to be a copout answer, but it HIGHLY varies based on terrain and rider ability. My battery can last 30min (track) to 4hrs (slow singletrack). That's moving time, not elapsed time.
In the track conditions in this day, probably about 20mins. If there were corners added to the middle of the straight stretches at the track... maybe 30mins. Trail ride with speeds largely under 30mph, probably 3 hours.
Best way to explain it... ride time/range is roughly the equivalent of about 1.5 gallons of petrol in a carbureted bike. So however long you normally ride on about a gallon of fuel... that's about what you'd get on an 80% charge... but only if you rode 1st-3rd gears. The Freeride is not fast fireroad bike, it's a master of the tight and gnar.
3 hrs around
Not bad, thinking about to get one in Spain, the electric bikes are on a government program for help new owners
But I’m still concerned about the duration of the battery for enduro
I got my bike today they fucking rip
Way faster than I expected from an ebike. Could you make a video on how to clean it because I don’t want to damage the electrics thanks. It took me so long to find that switch to open the seat hahah
Pretty crazy how fast they can get away from you in Mode 3 eh? 🤣 Once you get used to the power delivery and using more throttle control they don’t “feel” as fast. It’s the fact that they don’t bog...ever! It hooks up or breaks loose, never bogs.
As far as washing, everything is waterproof. I wouldn’t use high pressure water right at the battery or the front base of the battery. Even better would be just removing the battery and capping with the provided cap. That way you can get the goop that gets under the battery too which sits and corrodes the aluminum. I spray mine with silicone spray afterwards. Really hard corrosive water here. Aluminum gets furry.
I’d make a video, but my bike has no suspension on it right now and won’t for a couple weeks yet. Tucker has a video ruclips.net/video/atIPOccEM1k/видео.html that basically says the same thing.
Enjoy that thing! You’ll love it more every day and even more when your imagination starts to wander 🤣
it's completely waterproof bud.
buhh no Wheelie! :)
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