@@Apollo-tj1vm Yeah, Japan’s F-X has rotate-able rear stabilizers like the ASF-X, but they can only rotate for 45 degrees, it seems like making these stabilizers are very hard, the F-X prototype doesn’t have the stabilizers.
Listening to the Dialogue again, yeah the feel of the last real pilot to pilot air battle is something as many of the Eruseans are old veterans themselves. In a manner of speaking, it's a tad sad, as this is their last Foray into the Skies above, where they would into the heavens never to turn.
Basically use Delta wings, propense to being a brick in PSM(or at least in Draken with SuperStall), and CFA-44 is not an exception, XFA-27 can full PSM
Yeah. In Ace Combat 6, the CFA was given bad stability to prevent it from being too overpowered (unless you have a DLC skin), and to me, the ADMM and the EML more than make up for it. You don't need to turn on a dime if you can blow up twelve targets at once.
I mean, if you use high G it's basically always in a PSM state lmfao. It's the only plane in AC7 that has a sort of G-locks when using high g. Which gives it incredible turning rates at high and low speeds.
Aero engineer here. They are certainly possible from a structural standpoint. The real problem is that they are useless. Their movements won't contribute anything to the maneuvers shown.
@@米空軍パイロット so if people tried, this and the CFA 44 could be real aircraft for lets say orbital defense?? Like shooting satellites/ flying over radar limits in enemy countries
Still kinda bummed that it doesn't have a unique special like the admm or mstm the other 2 got, but I wouldn't know since I've never got a chance to fly the shinden ii but god damn I'm buying all of them cuz they are beautiful
What bugs me about the Shinden 2 is that it doesn't have its own signature weapons. I mean, the Nosferatu has its ADMMs and dual EMLs, the XFA-27 has MSTMs, and the Shinden 2 has... 6AAMs, rockets and LASMs. Kinda wish it was equipped with something more... special.
I so luv it when the enemy underestimate us the player or the ace however yu wanna interpret tht also shinden looking nice where is the nagase paint job!!!!!!
To be honest, this is probably my least favorite plane out of the three new DLC planes. It looks fine, but the XFA and the CFA are bringing more to the table with their SP weapons, and this plane didn't grab my attention in Assault Horizon.
@@gracecalis5421 Good point. Personally, I find the multiplayer to be a bit too hardcore for me. No matter what plane or parts I pick, I can't land any missiles and I can't evade their missiles. Besides, I heard that post stall maneuvers are a huge gamble in multiplayer. I've done a few in campaign, but it's hard to think of a situation where a post stall maneuver is more efficient than a simple High-G turn.
@@masterofthelag8414 Hm. Are you referring to the Thrust-Adjusting Steering Device (MSL) Lv. 2 and the New High-Energy Propellant (MSL) Lv. 2 ? If so... well... I honestly didn't see much of a difference. I've never been much of a competitive gamer, honestly. It's why I could barely do much in the Halo multiplayer of the Master Chief Collection on PC.
@@Mark-fc7tu Yeah I think that's the ones. When you shoot is also really important though (good opportunities being when the enemy looks to either be moving right towards or away from you or barely moving). If you're really struggling, start with a plane that can mount QAAM's as they're really easy to get a hit with. And remember you can hold triangle/Y on your controller to have the camera follow the target you have locked to see what they're up to.
Mitsubishi ASF-X (F-3) Shinden II: a high-tech support fighter with VTOL characteristics. It fits perfectly with Japan's defense doctrine. According to her, first you destroy the enemy fleet and provide support to the infantry, and then to the air force. Such assumptions are made by the Mitsubishi F-2, a relative of the F-16. In the real world, ASF-X would be complicated to build. Many innovative solutions used in it have been refined over the years. Fortunately, the Japanese Air Self-Defense Force and the Maritime Self-Defense Force will soon have a similar fighter. This is Lockheed Martin F-35B Lightning II. The only question is which ODF branch would use the F-35B in the AC universe. And what skins would the F-35B have on the AC7 if it showed up? Reply: O: Standard F-35B Camouflage, E: Dark Green Camouflage with AV-8B +, SP: JASDF Blue Camouflage, 7. Sapin Navy, 8. REAF/Emmerian Navy, 9. Ustio.
They wanted the F-22 but the US declined to sell it to them, which is why the Shinden-II has some design inspiration from the F-22. I heard the US was possibly willing to sell them the old schematics of the YF-23 though.
Oh they did add the parts before the release of the DLC pack cuz I hope in AC7 the player(s) can be able to add the parts that the CFA-44, ASF-X Shinden 2, and XFA-27 needs so I/we can put them to good use.
Theoretically this is a CATOBAR/STOVL aircraft so for carrier takeoffs the deck stops immediately so it is inherently possible for the shinden to nose up after leaving the deck. If it is a vertical landing, and if the shinden stays flat for the duration of the landing. It should also work. BUT for conventional landings however, Either the two vertical stabilizers will 'lift' while landing, or just some classic Ace Combat MAGIK
I don't understand why people talk about these planes as flying really well or having their own flying characteristics, every aircraft in the games flying characteristics are only determined by the stats, you could literally have an F22 with the same stats as an f4 phantom and they would fly exactly the same
Pseudo vitol. You cant hover forever. But with the part for stall speed you can functionally do so. Bottomed out at 130 for me before begining to dive. Stability went out the window and shook badly under 200.
I hope that too, F1, Ea prowler/intruder, Mig1.44, F117, F5E ecc but this aircraft are somewhat special for the series and I'm still happy they're here. plus, if they will keep updating the game till a new Ac I'm sure they will :)
Just found out, this happens when you are using the mod to use MP parts on single player. There's a new version available that fixes this www.nexusmods.com/acecombat7skiesunknown/mods/623 www.moddb.com/games/ace-combat-7/downloads/lotsbiss-mod-suite-moddb
@@Zaptroxix Ahhh I was about to say, when I unequipped all parts, the plane would accelerate normally. That explains it. Anyway, I think I'll just delete that mod. I haven't dabbled in Multiplayer anyway so what's the point? are the MP parts even better than the SP ones?
@@Zaptroxix You were right! Whew! thanks for pointing that out, man. I knew it had something to do with the custom parts but I completely forgot about that mod. Anyway, the game functions as it should now. Thank god
God those vertical stabilizers are gorgeous
I dunno why, but the movement of those stabilizers reminds me of a sea turtle on 1:37-38, lol
that's the only part that's not doable in RL though
@@Apollo-tj1vm Yeah, Japan’s F-X has rotate-able rear stabilizers like the ASF-X, but they can only rotate for 45 degrees, it seems like making these stabilizers are very hard, the F-X prototype doesn’t have the stabilizers.
@@generalgabrielsatori could you provide a source ?
4:53 *Did that random Glamrock pilot just comment on your Shinden?*
@Rohaan Mohammed no need, he's already dead since a few seconds after his witty remark
He says as he ignores his RWR warnings.
So Every Aircraft in the DLC does a full PSM. Sexy.
He walked all over it with his dirty boots over the CRISP WHITE SHEETS of my bed that I had just made lol
Listening to the Dialogue again, yeah the feel of the last real pilot to pilot air battle is something as many of the Eruseans are old veterans themselves.
In a manner of speaking, it's a tad sad, as this is their last Foray into the Skies above, where they would into the heavens never to turn.
The shinden is my favorite out of the 3, it feels so nice to fly and also decimate everything with rocket pods
2:11 Oh, the comedy
The Virgin Lightning II vs the Chad Shinden II
2:15 We just heard the last moments of that Erusean pilot the instant Zaptroxix splashed him.
He was talking mad shit a few moments before he got destroyed.
Woah , My Dream Fighter Jet Planes , ASF-X Shinden II , I very like this planes .
Please dont make me cry more, the CFA is a flying brick at PSM speeds 😭
Yeah, it's unfortunate how crippling the stall speed is on the thing
@@briarmason8737 if i recall its almost always been that way. Took a lot of skill to fly
Basically use Delta wings, propense to being a brick in PSM(or at least in Draken with SuperStall), and CFA-44 is not an exception, XFA-27 can full PSM
Yeah. In Ace Combat 6, the CFA was given bad stability to prevent it from being too overpowered (unless you have a DLC skin), and to me, the ADMM and the EML more than make up for it. You don't need to turn on a dime if you can blow up twelve targets at once.
I mean, if you use high G it's basically always in a PSM state lmfao. It's the only plane in AC7 that has a sort of G-locks when using high g. Which gives it incredible turning rates at high and low speeds.
vertical stabilizers are like flapping wings when in PSM
That plane do psm?
I wonder about the mechanical internal makeup of those adjustable vertical stabilizers.
And how well they would hold up in actual dogfights
Aero engineer here. They are certainly possible from a structural standpoint. The real problem is that they are useless. Their movements won't contribute anything to the maneuvers shown.
@@米空軍パイロット So they just move to look sexy?
@@akifhossain5122 Yep.
@@akifhossain5122 Btw, this fighter was designed by the creator of Macross, so he has a lot of experience designing sexy scifi fighters.
@@米空軍パイロット so if people tried, this and the CFA 44 could be real aircraft for lets say orbital defense?? Like shooting satellites/ flying over radar limits in enemy countries
That's a gorgeous ass plane
Still kinda bummed that it doesn't have a unique special like the admm or mstm the other 2 got, but I wouldn't know since I've never got a chance to fly the shinden ii but god damn I'm buying all of them cuz they are beautiful
Holy shit that looks sweet, I need it in my life
I would use the CFA-44 in this mission when I get it
I will call my shinden: Flappy bird.... sorry but when you go bonkers on the manouvers it looks like the plane tries to flap its wings :-D
Keep speed over 200 but under 300, you'll begin to hover. ECU part needed.
What bugs me about the Shinden 2 is that it doesn't have its own signature weapons. I mean, the Nosferatu has its ADMMs and dual EMLs, the XFA-27 has MSTMs, and the Shinden 2 has... 6AAMs, rockets and LASMs. Kinda wish it was equipped with something more... special.
Ikr? Like some sort of laser or shields.
Seeing this fighter in game makes me think its the kind of fighter batman would go for. Not to mention it comes in black😏.
I so luv it when the enemy underestimate us the player or the ace however yu wanna interpret tht also shinden looking nice where is the nagase paint job!!!!!!
I'm not seeing a lot of RUclips videos of this plane on ace combat 7, guess alot of people haven't got the dlc yet.
Those tail is so mesmerizing 😍
Ace Combat dialogue in a nutshell:
Heh, long time no see
Heh, longtime no see
Long, time, no, see.
Heh
To be honest, this is probably my least favorite plane out of the three new DLC planes. It looks fine, but the XFA and the CFA are bringing more to the table with their SP weapons, and this plane didn't grab my attention in Assault Horizon.
I'm sure the multiplayer boys are gonna love this thing. Has the lowest stall speed in the game and even when it does stall, it doesn't nosedive.
@@gracecalis5421 Good point. Personally, I find the multiplayer to be a bit too hardcore for me. No matter what plane or parts I pick, I can't land any missiles and I can't evade their missiles. Besides, I heard that post stall maneuvers are a huge gamble in multiplayer. I've done a few in campaign, but it's hard to think of a situation where a post stall maneuver is more efficient than a simple High-G turn.
@@Mark-fc7tu Upgrading the manouverability of your missiles can go a huge ways there to landing hits, trust me.
@@masterofthelag8414 Hm. Are you referring to the Thrust-Adjusting Steering Device (MSL) Lv. 2 and the New High-Energy Propellant (MSL) Lv. 2
? If so... well... I honestly didn't see much of a difference. I've never been much of a competitive gamer, honestly. It's why I could barely do much in the Halo multiplayer of the Master Chief Collection on PC.
@@Mark-fc7tu Yeah I think that's the ones. When you shoot is also really important though (good opportunities being when the enemy looks to either be moving right towards or away from you or barely moving). If you're really struggling, start with a plane that can mount QAAM's as they're really easy to get a hit with. And remember you can hold triangle/Y on your controller to have the camera follow the target you have locked to see what they're up to.
Mitsubishi ASF-X (F-3) Shinden II: a high-tech support fighter with VTOL characteristics. It fits perfectly with Japan's defense doctrine. According to her, first you destroy the enemy fleet and provide support to the infantry, and then to the air force. Such assumptions are made by the Mitsubishi F-2, a relative of the F-16. In the real world, ASF-X would be complicated to build. Many innovative solutions used in it have been refined over the years.
Fortunately, the Japanese Air Self-Defense Force and the Maritime Self-Defense Force will soon have a similar fighter. This is Lockheed Martin F-35B Lightning II. The only question is which ODF branch would use the F-35B in the AC universe. And what skins would the F-35B have on the AC7 if it showed up? Reply: O: Standard F-35B Camouflage, E: Dark Green Camouflage with AV-8B +, SP: JASDF Blue Camouflage, 7. Sapin Navy, 8. REAF/Emmerian Navy, 9. Ustio.
They wanted the F-22 but the US declined to sell it to them, which is why the Shinden-II has some design inspiration from the F-22. I heard the US was possibly willing to sell them the old schematics of the YF-23 though.
Oh they did add the parts before the release of the DLC pack cuz I hope in AC7 the player(s) can be able to add the parts that the CFA-44, ASF-X Shinden 2, and XFA-27 needs so I/we can put them to good use.
POGGERS
God.... is this..... a monster?
Isn't Shinden was supposed to be in Japanese Aircraft Tree?
The variable stablizers are beautiful!
...
Except when you're taking off or landing. Then they're... weird.
Like, how do they not scrape the ground?
Ace combat magik.
Theoretically this is a CATOBAR/STOVL aircraft so for carrier takeoffs the deck stops immediately so it is inherently possible for the shinden to nose up after leaving the deck. If it is a vertical landing, and if the shinden stays flat for the duration of the landing. It should also work. BUT for conventional landings however, Either the two vertical stabilizers will 'lift' while landing, or just some classic Ace Combat MAGIK
Man, do I should get the season pass? This is wonderful
They are not part of the season pass, you need to buy the 25th Anniversary original aircraft series set to get them
Oh
Thank you
They took an f35 and weebified it I approve
0:00 Korega requiem da
All gansta untill Alicorn turns gold
I don't understand why people talk about these planes as flying really well or having their own flying characteristics, every aircraft in the games flying characteristics are only determined by the stats, you could literally have an F22 with the same stats as an f4 phantom and they would fly exactly the same
Can you do VTOL floating?
still sad it can't hover tho
mungkinkah ada pesawat seperti itu
Can you tell me which DLC aircraft can do kullbits or cobras? And if the shinden has working vtol? Thanks
All 3 of them do full PSM, not sure about the VTOL on Shinden
Pseudo vitol. You cant hover forever. But with the part for stall speed you can functionally do so. Bottomed out at 130 for me before begining to dive. Stability went out the window and shook badly under 200.
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if memory serves this was designed by someone who did art for Macross.
Well. Fire the missles.
One of the creator actually, Shoji Kawamori
Count I never spoken
Kawamori is a fucking genius. _If he just could stop with the idols bullshit.
6th gen fighter?
how can i do cobra maneuver i play PC version and use xbox one controller?
Accelerate and decelerate at the same time while pulling up, then let go of the accelerator.
ayooo wheres the link for this mod ???? i want that plane too
It's DLC for the game
infinite missiles
They still haven’t fixed the gun crosshair not predicting the correct gun trajectory
I still wish they'd give us actual planes that exist, like the Mig 23, the Hawk, the Alpha, The F5E instead of more space ships
I hope that too, F1, Ea prowler/intruder, Mig1.44, F117, F5E ecc but this aircraft are somewhat special for the series and I'm still happy they're here. plus, if they will keep updating the game till a new Ac I'm sure they will :)
Then why are you here? Go back to COD or whatever game that has fighters
@@hello-hb1ll Probably because of the gameplay?
@@hello-hb1ll Because it was in my autoplay....
@@christianmariogreco9330 true that, christian
Love the game play but the dialogs were absolute cringe.
Are you playing this on PC or console. Because this plane refuses to work for me. It barely accelerates and it refuses to take off at all
Console
@@Zaptroxix hmm....I just noticed that it's suddenly affecting all my planes. None of them accelerate correctly. Something is wrong here
Just found out, this happens when you are using the mod to use MP parts on single player. There's a new version available that fixes this www.nexusmods.com/acecombat7skiesunknown/mods/623
www.moddb.com/games/ace-combat-7/downloads/lotsbiss-mod-suite-moddb
@@Zaptroxix Ahhh I was about to say, when I unequipped all parts, the plane would accelerate normally. That explains it. Anyway, I think I'll just delete that mod. I haven't dabbled in Multiplayer anyway so what's the point? are the MP parts even better than the SP ones?
@@Zaptroxix You were right! Whew! thanks for pointing that out, man. I knew it had something to do with the custom parts but I completely forgot about that mod. Anyway, the game functions as it should now. Thank god