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I would suggest losing the kool looking range hood for more storage or microwave placement. The saying is, " there's beauty in function ".
I will politely disagree. We have a class c and I try to cook outside even in cold weather because food smells stay inside so much. I would give up carting more stuff for a vent any day.
@@wineboxgo into most people's houses you can smell what kind off food they cook when you walk in the smell goes into everything, carpets , curtains, couches , everything, big deal just have a good range hood and open windows, cook something different every day the smell will change 😅😊
I agree that I’d move the microwave up above the stove with an integrated vent hood. That open space above the vent hood is just wasted.
@@winebox a hood vent is important, but it doesn't need to take up all of that space. It's styled like it's in the show kitchen of a renovation on a TV show, instead of in an RV where space is critical.
Many homes have the hood built into the bottom of a cabinet and the vent pipe goes through the middle. This would help add more storage to this motorhome. And the look is not as important......
Delete the hood add cabinets. Deeper bins over the bed. Travel locks on overhead bins. Truma endless hot water. Option for desk under TV We would prefer to sit in the two recliners to watch TV - maybe switch the sofa to be under the TV. I love this unit. Can't wait to see it at a dealer.
Just what I'm looking for.
Loose the hood and swap the couch and chairs so you can watch the TV
no best in show sticker on this one? of the 2 videos I've seen on this unit, neither showed any of the exterior storage, which is concerning since it doesn't look like much from what I can tell in the vids. That being said, this is still very intriguing and close to the top of my list.
One thing they could really work on is making a larger outside storage compartment for chairs, folding table etc. In addition have a color coded stock trailer hitch trunk that looks like it was made for this one model only, It would be a great answer to storage.
Find hinges for the pantry and garbage doors that will allow for more than 90 degree swing. Its a small space and i can see the doors tearing the hinges out as a person tries to pass. Also, definitely pull out racks for the pantry!
Love it! I would love a tilt-down bed above the front cab so everyone has a bed!
Or at least a shelf above the cab for more storage...
The windshield slope, which I like in some ways (such as for aerodynamics) kills the space for bed, or even the usual storage bins.
Mrs and I like this RV as a potential replacement to our Winnie Solis 59PX. Hoping the Euro trend continues, I'd love to see a rear garage space for two mountain bikes and would gladly give up kitchen and bath space for this feature. Also, we think the bump out is ok, but we'd rather have something true Euro style, no bumpout. Keep up the vision !
You need to add drawers in one of the hanging storage. Storage space over the driver and pilot should have doors.
Back to back fantastic RV videos! One travel trailer and then this!
I’d like to see more of the camper and less of the company sunglasses man.
It would be nice if US manufactured motor homes all came with radiant heat, instead of the higher priced versions. That would be nice. I like the fact it has only 1 slide.
This is really a terrific collaboration on Coachman staff &’ developers, part! you guys have knocked this Coachmen Eruo out of the ballpark I really Like the Layout &’ how you guys have nailed it… it really does have a European Look &’ style inside &’ out! if I’am able to find one when my legal issues are settled Coachmen Euro, &’ I are going to do some traveling….
congratulations 🎉 Coachmen developers…
Finally someone is catching up and getting why the european market is light years ahead , Its been a long time coming. We need to build motorhomes that have style and function and have the quality to back it up.
Lets be real people want there moneys worth when investing there lifes savings on a home on wheels. As a tour manager for rock bands i have travelled on almost every brand of motor homes and tour buses over the last 30 years. i was appalled how the quality of the product that was used hinges, brackets, wood joinery etc. I remember the first time i walked into a Country coach and was so blown away how beautiful the attention to detail was. Manufactures did not see the Sprinter custom van market potential and now its booming and now everyone even Tiffin who is great is taking notice. My 2 cents worth.
Make the chairs in left side swivel forward for travel mode!
I would love to see someone offering a realistic sized solar package to acutely go boondocking and more mini-split air conditioning style systems.
Reminds me of the GMC Series from the 1970 with 2023 upgrades. I am restoring a 1977 Eleganza.
Who cares...euro / American, this thing is damn functional for its class size. Want a 45 ft class A bus...go ahead, if you have the bucks. BTW, 5his one has a (very large) Ford V8. You can have it serviced or repaired at any Ford dealership or repair shop in the world
27’ long…curved front glass…drives like an suv…built in storage throughout…GMC built this 50 years ago…with front wheel drive! Don’t get me wrong, this is beautiful. But someone at that company toured a ‘75 GMC and said, “Hey, let’s build this…”. It’s uncanny how similar the floor plan is to the GMC…
Need storage above driving area ! Lots of wasted space … Nice Unit … Ty 👍
wow very nice one
What is so special about European style? I think USA styling is fine. Shorter and narrower is a good idea and I like the interior mostly. I've seen some other class c with bathroom just like this one. Wonder what the price tag will be..
I like 102”width, especially in a smaller unit like this.
I don’t like the black finishes and the thick black window frames. Would like to see more eloquent finishes. Just different styling. Similar to the Newell coaches and the King Aire. Also the shades that look to be almost like blinds (am I seeing things)? The interior doesn’t look very European to me. I do like the stove hood idea but the one you have just seemed so outdated. I think for the same price point you should and could do better with the finishes to give it some eloquence. I do like the large shower.
The screen on the dashboard is not integrated. Also, why not slam latch outside compartments? Also don't like that the bed can't be used with the slide in. This would not work for me.
Nice unit. Solar panels?
Can the microwave be moved to the vent-a-hood location and give you draw space below in its place?
The microwave definitely needs to be above the stove. My wife can't see the controls down low.
I AGREE and should be same size as in the bigger coaches!!!!!@@billb6606
I don't want the microwave that high (although that's what I have now), so I would rather have storage over the hood and the microwave below the counter.
The solution,@@billb6606 , is a proper under-counter microwave with controls designed to be seen in that position, rather than putting a countertop microwave in the cabinet under the counter.
how much?
Leave the hood…please so we can cook inside without odor problems
This one's nice. I'm not one for the Euro style. Some of us older farts would never go for it and buy the bigger class A.
Can’t fix ignornace
@@firstlast4165 yes you can. Batter up!
@@davidleaghty2943 Not much of this RV is European style. Cabinets on the outside yes. Maybe the graphics on the outside has little Euro feel. Its smaller then an american size maybe but still not like a Euro RV. This size in europe would never have a 7 liter Gas engine. It would have a 3 l turbo diesel.
I want ine❤
put the tv opposite of the recliners. i don't understand the mindset of the manufactures with tv placement. its like its always an after thought.
Need a diesel option
Diesel way too loud to have up front.
That skinny liitle tall space by fridge needs to be a pull out pantry.
As an European I would say this is 5% European and 95% american style.
agree. The one thing that european RVs have that special something that uses space differently and efficiently and you dont see it in this. The materials may have a euro style etc but that is the 5%. Other than that it still screams american. Those LED strips are showing up in all the US Rvs. The outside of this makes you think you will walk in and it will be really actually euro and then you sigh and go….nope
This is actually a Class A that would want to own. I like the power plant and the smaller length. More than enough power on the road and just small enough to fit into most sites. The styling makes it unique. Definitely not big and boxy (clunky?) like other Class A motorhomes. Good work, Coachman. I just hope it will be available in Canada.
Good sized Class A. I agree a diesel could be beneficial. The stove exhaust looks nice but there is wasted storage space around; function over design is better in my estimation. I’m not keen on white on white on white, rather I prefer some color & texture. Like the combined dining & living area. We didn’t get to see outside storage.
Really beautiful motor home. I’d customize it for myself a bit (1) remove the two extra seats under the TV and install a desk /work table with storage drawers beneath (2) drop down to a full size bed and add a large built in closet with cabinets in the bedroom (3) reconfigure the bathroom so the sink doesn’t block the shower. Not sure if this model has a garage, but would be interested to see the exterior storage. Otherwise, I really like it.
At 27 feet overall and on the 178" wheelbase (not the shortest 158"), this will be one of the few motorhome built on the F53 that doesn't need rear frame extensions to support the body.
I think this rv is awesome with the European cabinetry, the galley and bathroom are nice as well as the bedroom. The only thing I’m not sure about is sofa and the seats across from them. It just seems too crowded to me. If someone sat in the chair and put their feet up there wouldn’t be any room to walk through there. Is anyone else seeing this or am I the only one? Thanks for sharing this JD, it’s a great rv, do you know if those will come in a couple different floor plans?
yes it needs a small slide
@@miketybring4700 I agree
With both cab seats mounted on swivels so they can be used as arm chairs in the evening do you really need two more recliners in the back as well? To me this shows an area where the American mind set is still in charge, look at how the European motorhomes are using the space to better effect.
I agree
With sofa keep it with one chair plus the swivel capt.
Maybe I miss understood. I thought the salesman said the two seats behind the driver had seatbelts so you could carry 2 more people.
I do agree the front living room needs a bit of a change. Maybe a small slide out on the sofa side to make it a little bigger?
I do like the look of it. Being able to take it to national and state parks would be wonderful. Thank you
It's nice seeing a small unit with features. Just like cars, the smaller you get, it becomes more of a budget minded product.
We love smaller vehicles that have the luxury features of the full size products and nobody makes products like that.
You know Coachman may be a lower tier brand… but they sure do stay involved and talk things out with you. Staying involved is how you improve and I think coachman is on their way to becoming the Toyota of the RV industry
C😊achmen inc have been owned by many personals hand to hand.. - now big league overtaken. (U know u guys americans didnt realize had became slave inventors for them).
Since they rewrite ur states histories , now they got corrupted & overtaken every c🇺🇸mper/rv / trailers resources frm ur banks , tax funds & capitalis area
Suggestions: Skip the fancy range hood in favor of more cabinet space. Put the microwave up there and a cabinet below where the microwave is. Make the folding bed a recliner bed when the slide is in. Makes it usable for brief stays or adds an extra reading area. (I'm small and could sleep on the flat end with the slide in at rest stops or parking lots while traveling.)🦄You could name this "Unicorn."
Hell NOOOOO! A hood range is an ABSOLUTE MUST. stupid to not have it, entire place would stink, smells going into the fabric, carpet, anything that is poris and gunk up. Hood RANGE is a MUST just as it's a MUST HAVE for a vent in the bathroom
I agree. No range hood. Microwave above the cook top. Us older guys do not want to bend down/squat to use the microwave.
Yes, put the microwave up top instead of the fancy hood and vent to the outside.
Finally! I think you said it best in the video that American manufacturers needed to take some European styles/features and add them to American models. Love the look of this one.
Love the induction instead of gas. Wish it had a pull out pantry. Do not care for the flip up bed in the master bedroom. Wish you made an RV that did not have slides but was aerodynamic like this one. Perhaps if it had a rear bathroom instead? Also solar and a on-demand hot water heater
I love this floorplan. The one change I would make is on the bed. Instead of the folding bed, consider a tilting bed. These have the advantage of being partially usable with the slide in.
I’m about a week away from ordering the Pursuit 27 but I love love LOVE this rig❤️❤️❤️!!! Deal breaker for me would be no model without slide-outs!!…Seems to me the slide really kills your entire euro design ethos😳😢🥵 Sure is awesome in every other way!! (And BTW, women love big trucks AND power tools!)
I agree. Wish there were no slide out. I can live with a smaller bed :)
I could go with or without a slide out - but it didn't have a King Bed, that would be the deal breaker!
I like this RV. Woukd be nice it it had smaller v6 diesel 3L or 3.5L better fuel economy.
O ly concer is for tall drivers, the top of windshield looks low! Also, driver side mirrors look to be in front of drivers seat if seat is all the way back
I don’t think the hood vent is worth the sacrifice of storage space. Put the convection/micro there and have more storage.
Diesel should be an option.
I don’t like the folding bed aspect. For a compact unit I want to be able to use it parked without having to put the slide out.
Overall, I hope there’s some competition in this market to see how others can compare!
This is the first class A I've seen that I'd actually want to own. Really reminds me of the was the Leisure Unity made a complete transformation of the class B+/C segment. This feels bigger than it is, and the multifunction front space is great. Unfortunately, I'm sure it'll be way outside my price range, but if it wasn't, I'd consider it for full time living.
If I could change one thing, I'd add washer/dryer prep, and maybe see if you could squeeze a workstation area somewhere. I really liked the design of the Lance 2465 with the owner's suite, but in this case the bathroom takes up part of the owner's suite so I'm not sure that could be done here without stretching the chassis.
The TV is on the wrong side. It should be easy to see from the recliners.
And the pantry is so narrow it should be pull out to allow access all the way to the back.
And drawer storage for the clothes. Not everything is hanging.
The trash can is a nice touch.
Looks very nice, both inside and out, in a footprint just a bit larger than an extended van chassis, yet seems more functional. Very clever. Hope the quality is high and the price reasonable. Looking forward to seeing an actual production model.
Personally i mostly like the layout of this class a. I would only change placement of tv. It really reminds of Canadian leisure class b.
The only thing i didn't care for on the leisure class b was the length.
This class a gives you the extra length and goodies without being too large. Excided it would fit in state and national parks.
Thank you
The LTV is a class C. Some call it a B+ I agree I like the longer length of the Euro and the slide out.
As a UK Class A motorhomer - This is something that I would like to see in US Hire fleets to tempt more Europeans who are nervous of your big rigs to take road trip vacations in The US. I also agree with the comments below that European style "Garage" underbed storage accessible from the outside would be more practical than the slide out. Personally I don't like the transverse strip lights, they look more at home in an office. keep the zoning panels but starlight LEDS would be the dog's doodahs.
Oh and the 8-10mpg is rather obscene . Us Europeans like to get 26-30mpg in diesel form (have you seen the price of our fuel?? 😱)
Could do with a drop down bed over the cab, then have two dedicated sleeping areas. Other than that nailed it, not sure the huge V8 is very European though.
This is like Airstream Flying Cloud version. Like the clean look. Keep it simple. No slide. Prefer two twins. Add place where mid size dog can sleep and be out of the way. Have elongated toilet seat.
The window shade/screen get a big fat “F”. The screen comes down from the top and the shade up from the bottom. This way you can hook them together for both airflow and privacy. Sorry Putting the microwave on the floor is just plain dumb. I didn’t see how the windows open with my European windows in my TAB 400 they can be open while it’s raining I bet it’s not the case with this one. Really nice unit but in my opinion they can do better. Thanks
Love this design and the focus upon being smaller and unique. If you could design this with configurations that allow end user mods it could be an interesting way to go… example: many of us watch Tv on our iPads, just need mounts (let customers configure the tv or drop it). Love the walk around bed but hate the slide out. Can you create a twin bed layout or Murphy bed and leave out the slide? Look at what Leisure Travel has done in their B+ designs - very innovative.
"Women are going to love driving it." Seriously dude? Tell me you're a sexist without saying you're a sexist. It's 2023. Get with the program.
I have a 1991 Itasca Windcruiser. The exterior of this Coachmen looks like an evaluation of my RV. The interior, however, is a complete departure from most Class A US interior designs. I am not a fan of the twisty locks on the exterior. Thanks for another great video!
Hood vent is waist of space. Take Euro looking coach and Americanize it with a big ol hood vent! Lol
Easy to stick the name Euro on a coach, much harder to build Euro quality into a coach-----especially in the poor work environment in the US.
Beautiful coach! LOVE the size and would definitely consider something like this vs. Class C especially w/towing capacity here. ? boondocking capability and would love to see more details!
Rule number one in sales. And yes, being a general manager IS your company's number one salesperson! Do not trust a salesman who can't give you the respect to take his sunglasses off while talking to you. Especially when you are indoors!
Your argument holds no water, especially considering your nickname.
Dont support any kind export to e-urope-..
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I was expecting so much more in the interior from the looks of the exterior but am really disappointed. It’s nothing like European designed RV. Cheap looking and could be one of their class c’s. Ugh!
Use Freimhtlighner Custom chassis front, Cummins diesel engine and North South bed with no slide-out!
Get rid of the range hood and put the microwave there. The two belted seats need to go and put more cabinets there.
No cabinet latches? Do these RV designers actually use RVs?
The only thing I would have liked to see in this one was an overhead drop down sleeping area over the front seats. That way you can sleep up to 6 in it.
Coachmen needs to use a revised Freightliner MC Custom Chassis with the Cummins front end diesel, shorter and lighter frame, independent front suspension, all disc brakes with VRide, digital dash etc.
That is what the do in Europe folks, not gasoline.
That wouldn't be an MC... but sure, Coachmen could try to make a deal with Freightliner to build that... but why not just get them to build a light XC pusher chassis instead?
The 7.3L is the best engine I've ever had the pleasure of driving. Coupled with a five speed, that b didn't care what the load was. Up hill, down hill, didn't matter. I really like this set up! Thanks.
Finally a US made RV that looks classy. I love the European RV's they are sleek and modern looking. This one I could spend some time in. I like the size too and driving it would be easy. I have pulled large horse trailers so I am not afraid of large rigs but I would much prefer one this size that can go almost anywhere. The only thing I don't like is the bed. I would want a tilt top model and NO slide. Or even a twin bed set up. Every thing else Good job Coachmen
Thanks for this look at the Euro. Heading in the right direction Coachmen. Please put a diesel in it, this platform can accept one. No countertop LED rope lightning needed, ditch that. Thanks for the the flat/euro cabinets and no outdated valances or grandma cabinets with dozens of handles, carved wood and gaudy wall sconces/light fixtures. Please don't cheap out on the materials and furniture. The rims are OK, give us some options. Reconfigure that doggie window, round the corners or ditch it. Add adjustable shelves to the wardrobe so people have options. Shower hot and cold faucets stick out too far. Nice work so far. Congratulations to the team that developed the Euro.
The F53 chassis is not available with a diesel engine. Yes, a Powerstroke 6.7 would fit, but Ford won't sell that.
Slide out !!! Why ? If is European style.
I like that design but we have nothing like that in Australia 😢
Diesel ⛽ would probably be a disadvantage in this case. You lose payload and what you make up in fuel economy you lose it at the pump ⛽ with high diesel prices. You really don't gain anything with diesel in this RV...😊
Personally I like this - I'm not looking at class A's but this wouldn't be bad. I wish it had a diesel option (for reliability/economy and the general ease a diesel has with towing/hauling) and the range hood may look cool but it's a waste of potential storage space. Even keeping the hood and wrapping a cabinet around it would be an improvement.
Update: 8000 lb. Towing capacity is great !
looks a LOT like the Monaco Vesta from 2012, which was a front-engine diesel. The Vesta was such a cool coach, but a love/hate front end. I'd like to see this coach in a diesel. I'd bring the over-cab space down and put storage up there--also makes the drive cozier/quieter with a lower ceiling. The strip LED"s look neat--but I'd be curious what replacement would entail. Do they dim? Change color?
As a European this ‘Europeaness’ really confuses me… 😂
😂😂😂
What kind of price are we talking about? Any ideas?
190k-220k
You are dreaming if you think this is a European style RV. Here is what is NOT European; the chairs, the microwave, the massive TV, the fridge, the slide, the bathroom and finally the 27’ feet! Back to the drawing board.
The European look is exactly why I am not interested in this. The make do, skimp on everything so it’s not quite useable in a comfy way unfortunately is what we have to live with in Europe. Just like our cars, expensive, uncomfy and not built to last
Can he take his freaking sunglasses off while in the coach....
Why?
Nice ! Thus is an updated version of the late 80's WINNIBAGO ELANDON. Should of been a front diesel though. WHY put the TV ABOVE THE RECLINERS switch the cupboards and TV around so the TV is ACROSS from the recliners PLEASE.
This seems like a THOR VEGAS knockoff not "European "! 😂
I own a 2018 VEGAS 25.4 customized. I have traveled 38k miles and average 11-13MPG towing a 2021 Jeep Cherokee. #RUV
It's nice BUT NO DIESEL?? i would NEVER EVER EVER Buy a gasoline RV over a diesel. Same for fullsize trucks. Hell i wish most our cars were diesel or we had the option to have diesel over gas in every new car. I seriously don't understand why someone would get gasoline, where you're engine is at the end of its life by 200k but a diesel can go EASILY over a million miles. PLUS the resale on diesel is fantastic, they hold their value
Need thicker baggage doors with slam latches.
Only one problem. It’s a Gas (Petrol) engine which you don’t get in vans Europe. It’s Diesel Turbos in Europe. Too expensive to run on Gas (petrol). Will there be a diesel version?
Please. Pullout spice rack… microwave up, regular gas stove with oven, I give one you one infrared stove for quickies and 2. Gas burners. Max water capacity, with water purification system for off grid, solar panel and lithium batteries. Wi-Fi. Them I buy one
Nice, but no Bicycle Garage like we are used to have in Europe.
As well, a lifted Bed over the driver seat in front is missing.
Not really European - greetings from Germany, owning a Niesmann-Bischoff Motorhome
It’s not British vans you should be trying to emulate the benchmark is German vans that’s the quality end of this market. You should be thinking Diesel for this if you want to export to Europe Australia South America. That aside it’s a lovey vehicle.
To call this rv European is a mistake. Instead build a huge storage compartment in the rear accessable from both rear sides. Have two beds over this compartment, one on each side of the rv. Have a couple of steps up to the beds and in between them, thereby making the huge storage compartment possible. This eliminates the extra b..s weight and complexity of a slideout. Study the design of European rv's before you go calling your design Euoropean. It is not.
Love this rig. Finally, some Euro style and shape but with American comforts. One suggestion. Swap the placement of the couch and theater seats. Put seats with the footrest extension on the passenger side so we can kick back and watch TV. TV is decent spot so even the co-pilot can watch. Otherwise move the TV to the opposite side.
It looks exactly like our public transport vehicles known as “Matatus” 😊 except it’s missing the flashing LED lights and 7+ TV screens.
I normally like big trucks videos, but for no more than I saw in this one it could have been just an audio recording. One view of the outside, two overhead cabinets,skipped one large cabinet because the door opened the wrong way, panoramic of the bedroom, nothing inside the cabin (dash and controls), etc
Sorry 👎 on this one.
I agree with the comments on the range hood. Nice but less important than more storage. Also, can the king bed be swapped for 2 twins? I travel with friends and would rather not share a bed with them. But very nice looking. Would like to know how much interior and exterior storage there is.
I was excited UNTIL....the slideout in the rear. Reconfigure the BR and make this thing WITHOUT a slideout.
Any gas engine class A would be an upgrade with Lizard Skin to protect driver and passenger from engine heat & noise. I love the 2 A/C w/soft start.
I really like this one and they even put a sidesplash to the left of the stove top. Almost nobody remembers to do that.
The range hood is nice, but I would prefer more storage with a vent on the underside. Are the individual chairs recliners? Nice counter space. What’s the benefit of having a masterating toilet?
The macerating toilet is probably used because the black tank is not directly under the toilet, so they need to pump the waste to the tank location. That's just an educated guess.
The pantry should have a pull out. The tv above the best seating? That is where I would like to sit, not on the sofa. But you can’t see the tv in the best seats. Should have an option in the bedroom for king, queen or twin beds. And I agree about the kitchen vent hood. Storage is so valuable and bending to get a hot casserole dish out of the low microwave is not safe. Think about us older rvers please.