some things for support agents: rina's ult has the highest damage multiplier (to my knowledge) soukaku only buffs her own crit rate, not anyone else's lucy does give cheer on for 10 seconds on her ult
The thing I'm most excited about is stunners stunning faster, which will help traditional atk teams. I just hope atk characters will generate decibels at a good rate while off field.
@@HerbIntake before it was "button mash then swap to dps and use ult" now it's "button mash, decide whether or not to use ult now, swap to dps, use ult" objectively there's more decisions to make regarding when you use your support/stunner ults because before you would only use DPS ult and only when enemy is stunned
Another thing too is the Support W-Engine called A Slice Of Time is going to be good to use on Lucy or Rina and will help build up Decibels very quickly!
one key thing I don't see many people talking about is we could potentially use stun characters' and their ultimate to completely interrupt enemies' moves while they're in the middle of them, get some Daze off AND possibly stun them and get more damage
yup, now have to think "is enemy daze low enough that i use ult now or do i save for next cycle" support ult probably just gonna get synced with DPS ult but stunner ult now has interesting choice.
One thing you have to keep in mind with burst attacker like ZY is that she doesn't want to spend alot of time on the field outside her burst window. Because of that, she might have a harder time getting ult cause she can't rely on her teammate as much
People are about to find out how good Nicole, Rina and Qingyi's Ultimates can be now LOL! And many of the other ones are good too like Anton's and Ben's which can do a ton of damage especially if they are maxed out!
@imadegenerate9867 eh who knows how the new ult system will track, there's no way it's 1 to 1 with the current system. More to the point though even if it's the same as now Nicole Ex into Nicole ult into zhu yuan ult will still go brrrrrrrrr even if qingyi has to stun first without ult at 6000 decibels
@@imadegenerate9867 I think chain attacks do give some decibels, so it's unlikely to happen all the time, but it can happen maybe if you save your ultimates during a boss with a large daze meter.
@@lumaletsplay8176 idk about that, I think it will be 1 to 1. Since if they actually make the decibel gain way easier fot each character. Then this is literally a massive buff, and would make combat way too easy. Unless they decide to buff the ethereal when releasing this update
Koleda's Ult is the one that's changed to have the "(Teamwork)" adjustments, so adding Ben doesn't let you go back to back with the same Ult. Also, Koleda's Daze on her Ult is about Anby's level without Ben, but with Ben... she's a bit under Lycaon's level. Like, actually perfectly in-between Benless Koleda and Lycaon's amount of Daze. I don't get why that's the case, but Benless Koleda's ult has better mods than Lighter's. That's what counts. Burnice definitely looks like the biggest winner. She's feels like the reason other anomaly characters feel like they're getting boosted more than the Attackers. Even without the triple-S-Tier Anomalies, getting Lucy's ult into Burnice's ult sounds so strong that it makes up for Piper's own ult being very underwhelming in comparison.
With Rina, I wouldn't mind a buff just for the heck of it, but her Pen is very good. It's a much higher dmg buff than characters like Lucy and Caesar so I dont think she's a bad place at all. But besides that I'm super excited for this change, having the stunners and Burnice specifically use their ults is gonna be soo good. Glad it's happening!
screw the bonuses ill get like seth restoring parroies or the stun or the damage im here for the spectacle do do you know what you could do with a lvl 3 frostfall into a swap into an ult?
I wonder how good Slice of Time is about to become. With the shared ultimates, it gave the team access to an ultimate a lot faster, where now I guess it means the support gets to boost their own decibel gauge while they're off field, while the on-fielder builds more toward their own? Or will the ST buff go to whoever is generating the decibels (on fielder)?
I’m worried as a heavy Zhu Yuan player that she will be hurt with this update. Since she is burst, she doesn’t have as much on field time until stun. This update has me worried for my attack characters. I’ll wait and see what the decibel rate is.
The thing that was powerful about a single Ult is everyone builds twords it. If the needed decibels is still 3k for each individual character mind you it may take on field time to build them decibels. Meaning it may make the game slower.
Q: can more than 1 ulti be active at the same time? For example, Lighter and Lychon throwing out their ultis so Elen can make use of the stun window asap
I think that, except for Burnice, no. Every other character locks you in and doesn't let you swap if they're in their ult animation, and I don't see that changing. You can still dump them back to back if they're up, but you'll be waiting between each character's ult animation
Even with the ultimate rework, Rina still be losing to the other A-rank supports.💀 Hopefully with the Hollow Zero new move-sets Rina might get a new move that will completely trump the other supports.
I honestly think many dps are worse off than we are initially projecting because every dps will demand more field time. There will actually be times now where you want to ULT with someone and will need to restart your run and or change strategy. Furthermore, There are some people who want to use their ult first in the stun state, Corrin comes to mind... she will likely need to use her EX to build Decibel which is inoptimal because most bosses drop out of her ULT when she uses it near end of stun status.(worlds tiniest violin) Also Zhu Yuan commonly waits for QingYi to stun and uses ult in stun. I guess I'm just wondering how this doesn't really further the gap and secure attack being left in the dust... their decibel gain is terrible compared to disorder....
If they just straightly do "on-field generate more, off-field generate less" then, I doubt if it really benefit stunner and Attacker from this change. Especially Qingyi+ZY, Corin, Anton Stunning too fast isn't always a good thing. Unless they fix and give more utility like +Stun mult, +Stun time, +Teammate's Decibel, etc. to stunner's ult. For the most part it's again boost anomaly agent especially in disorder comp 🤣
@maikcampbell she can get those massive buff without any ultimate. My concern is not a buff, it's the decibel of ZY. Since Qingyi is on-field most of the time she will surely max her decibel first and fill the daze gauge faster with it while ZY has no chance to keep up her decibel and use her ult (at least not in the first stun rotation)
People are about to find out how good Nicole, Rina and Qingyi's Ultimates can be now LOL! And many of the other ones are good too like Anton's and Ben's which can do a ton of damage especially if they are maxed out!
some things for support agents:
rina's ult has the highest damage multiplier (to my knowledge)
soukaku only buffs her own crit rate, not anyone else's
lucy does give cheer on for 10 seconds on her ult
The thing I'm most excited about is stunners stunning faster, which will help traditional atk teams. I just hope atk characters will generate decibels at a good rate while off field.
This is also how it becomes simply button mashing 😭
@@HerbIntake It's always been button mash your combo until the enemy makes you actually react to them.
@@HerbIntake before it was "button mash then swap to dps and use ult"
now it's "button mash, decide whether or not to use ult now, swap to dps, use ult"
objectively there's more decisions to make regarding when you use your support/stunner ults because before you would only use DPS ult and only when enemy is stunned
@@water2770I say that only applies to DPS you can’t really button mash with support characters.
@@Karma-pq9fi nah, you quickly mash the skill button into the assist button.
Another thing too is the Support W-Engine called A Slice Of Time is going to be good to use on Lucy or Rina and will help build up Decibels very quickly!
That’s the thing I’m worried about, I might be wrong, but if they don’t fix that wengine, it’ll only give Lucy more Ults, not the whole team 😢
Yeah I wonder if they're going to make it affect everyone's decibels, just the on-field agent, or just the wearer.
If this is the case my Rina is sitting pretty. I have the battlepass Engine on Lucy until I get her signature.
Caesar’s ult also give the shield which is also a damage increase on the same level as Sokaku so honestly she should be next to Sokaku if not higher
one key thing I don't see many people talking about is we could potentially use stun characters' and their ultimate to completely interrupt enemies' moves while they're in the middle of them, get some Daze off AND possibly stun them and get more damage
yup, now have to think "is enemy daze low enough that i use ult now or do i save for next cycle"
support ult probably just gonna get synced with DPS ult but stunner ult now has interesting choice.
One thing you have to keep in mind with burst attacker like ZY is that she doesn't want to spend alot of time on the field outside her burst window. Because of that, she might have a harder time getting ult cause she can't rely on her teammate as much
^ This so much. Everyone is hyped about the split decibles but i feel like so many are overlooking this crucial playstyle factor.
People are about to find out how good Nicole, Rina and Qingyi's Ultimates can be now LOL! And many of the other ones are good too like Anton's and Ben's which can do a ton of damage especially if they are maxed out!
Qingyi Ult into Nicole Ex into Nicole ult into Zhu Yuan Ult will legitimately one cycle most enemies
@lumaletsplay8176 but the problem is that's 9000 decibel required, and it's hard to get decibel for characters who barely on field
@imadegenerate9867 eh who knows how the new ult system will track, there's no way it's 1 to 1 with the current system. More to the point though even if it's the same as now Nicole Ex into Nicole ult into zhu yuan ult will still go brrrrrrrrr even if qingyi has to stun first without ult at 6000 decibels
@@imadegenerate9867 I think chain attacks do give some decibels, so it's unlikely to happen all the time, but it can happen maybe if you save your ultimates during a boss with a large daze meter.
@@lumaletsplay8176 idk about that, I think it will be 1 to 1. Since if they actually make the decibel gain way easier fot each character. Then this is literally a massive buff, and would make combat way too easy. Unless they decide to buff the ethereal when releasing this update
Koleda's Ult is the one that's changed to have the "(Teamwork)" adjustments, so adding Ben doesn't let you go back to back with the same Ult. Also, Koleda's Daze on her Ult is about Anby's level without Ben, but with Ben... she's a bit under Lycaon's level. Like, actually perfectly in-between Benless Koleda and Lycaon's amount of Daze. I don't get why that's the case, but Benless Koleda's ult has better mods than Lighter's. That's what counts.
Burnice definitely looks like the biggest winner. She's feels like the reason other anomaly characters feel like they're getting boosted more than the Attackers. Even without the triple-S-Tier Anomalies, getting Lucy's ult into Burnice's ult sounds so strong that it makes up for Piper's own ult being very underwhelming in comparison.
Hollow Zero 8 Energy Resonia + 8 Electric Resonia gonna go BRRRRRRRRRR
Ninivah THOUGHT it was the final boss
With Rina, I wouldn't mind a buff just for the heck of it, but her Pen is very good. It's a much higher dmg buff than characters like Lucy and Caesar so I dont think she's a bad place at all. But besides that I'm super excited for this change, having the stunners and Burnice specifically use their ults is gonna be soo good. Glad it's happening!
Caesar's ult actually does give Support points, the text just doesn't mention that for some reason, probably an oversight
Harumasa actually has a support function that boosts his teams ice damage I think after he Ults I saw that in another video
screw the bonuses ill get like seth restoring parroies
or the stun or the damage
im here for the spectacle do
do you know what you could do with a lvl 3 frostfall into a swap into an ult?
I wonder how good Slice of Time is about to become. With the shared ultimates, it gave the team access to an ultimate a lot faster, where now I guess it means the support gets to boost their own decibel gauge while they're off field, while the on-fielder builds more toward their own? Or will the ST buff go to whoever is generating the decibels (on fielder)?
I’m worried as a heavy Zhu Yuan player that she will be hurt with this update. Since she is burst, she doesn’t have as much on field time until stun. This update has me worried for my attack characters. I’ll wait and see what the decibel rate is.
I can't wait! Sometimes I use Nicole's ULT instead of Ellen, but now I won't have to choose!
I was waiting for your ult guide. Thanks for reading it for us haha!
The thing that was powerful about a single Ult is everyone builds twords it. If the needed decibels is still 3k for each individual character mind you it may take on field time to build them decibels. Meaning it may make the game slower.
One thing I don't quite understand is whether the Decibel count is going to be shared among the team or the count is going to be individually?
1.5 likely will have a game changing s rank support unit that generates decibals for the team
Q: can more than 1 ulti be active at the same time?
For example, Lighter and Lychon throwing out their ultis so Elen can make use of the stun window asap
I think that, except for Burnice, no. Every other character locks you in and doesn't let you swap if they're in their ult animation, and I don't see that changing. You can still dump them back to back if they're up, but you'll be waiting between each character's ult animation
stunners stonks
So no new burger 🍔 stores huh
Nothing changed for zhu yuan? pretty sure if Qingy and Nicole gets buffed so does Zhu Yuan. The team is still godlike.
Nicole >>> your favorite A rank so glad to have always been a Nicole truther
Even with the ultimate rework, Rina still be losing to the other A-rank supports.💀 Hopefully with the Hollow Zero new move-sets Rina might get a new move that will completely trump the other supports.
When is the update?
Dec 18
Never, games going eos tomorrow
December 18th (officially announced during their livestream)
I honestly think many dps are worse off than we are initially projecting because every dps will demand more field time. There will actually be times now where you want to ULT with someone and will need to restart your run and or change strategy.
Furthermore, There are some people who want to use their ult first in the stun state, Corrin comes to mind... she will likely need to use her EX to build Decibel which is inoptimal because most bosses drop out of her ULT when she uses it near end of stun status.(worlds tiniest violin)
Also Zhu Yuan commonly waits for QingYi to stun and uses ult in stun. I guess I'm just wondering how this doesn't really further the gap and secure attack being left in the dust... their decibel gain is terrible compared to disorder....
If they just straightly do "on-field generate more, off-field generate less" then, I doubt if it really benefit stunner and Attacker from this change. Especially Qingyi+ZY, Corin, Anton
Stunning too fast isn't always a good thing. Unless they fix and give more utility like +Stun mult, +Stun time, +Teammate's Decibel, etc. to stunner's ult.
For the most part it's again boost anomaly agent especially in disorder comp 🤣
I don’t know. zhu yuan gets Qingyi and Nicole massive buffs so it’s possible her whole rotation changes for increased team dmg.
@maikcampbell she can get those massive buff without any ultimate. My concern is not a buff, it's the decibel of ZY.
Since Qingyi is on-field most of the time she will surely max her decibel first and fill the daze gauge faster with it while ZY has no chance to keep up her decibel and use her ult (at least not in the first stun rotation)
People are about to find out how good Nicole, Rina and Qingyi's Ultimates can be now LOL! And many of the other ones are good too like Anton's and Ben's which can do a ton of damage especially if they are maxed out!