Theo's Leaked Messages Show The True Extent Of His Lies
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- Опубликовано: 12 июн 2024
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Timestamps:
00:00 - Alright, let's do this one last time...
02:24 - There are couple of things I didn't make clear.
03:49 - Theo's discord leak
08:40 - His Twitter likes were public.
10:43 - I did reply to his email.
14:12 - Conclusion.
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Игры
The End.
Let's hope that age well
Ignorance is bliss, replying to so many people won’t change their minds
Thank god, please stick to your word unless something TRULY noteworthy happenes
hope so
Amen
“You’re my favourite parasite. No, ringworm is my favourite parasite. You’re my second favourite. No, okay, ringworm, then rats, then you.”
I love Arthur’s 1800’s brain saying rats are a parasite lmao
YESSS
@@zeuszo_o1593 Rat's with the Plague specifically. Which still isn't Parasitic, just disease carrying.
@@VotingChipmunknor is uncle but theyre close enough
@@zeuszo_o1593definitions were a little less strict back then. E.g. both reptiles and amphibians existing under the unified class of herpetile. I'd imagine that rats were probably considered parasites by some antiquated taxonomic definition of the period.
It’s theover for him
hahaha
Hilarious
@@kayagorzan I’ll be here all week
Very much humorous and silly 🤩
@@sodicious thanks 45!
As soon as saw Theo in the title I immediately thought "Oh shit, here we go again”
San Andreas
The only series I watch recently😂
“You lied about the wrong man fool!”
Same but I think Theo Von 😅
While I agree that negative content can drive people away, I think many people like myself also hate seeing injustice and like to see you go to town on these imbeciles. Keep standing up for what’s right Matto!
I share that opinion, watching him call people out on their stupidity is funny
Yes, you and me both. I also hate seeing injustice done...
But then again, I'm trying to swim against the rapids where literally no one cares and just prays things move on without doing anything
agreed
nice wheelie
I agree!
Theo blocked me on Twitter after I simply said getting called out is not harassment. 🙄
He blocked me after I made the tweet showing that he was liking them posts
small man syndrome
He’s done you a favour.
Twitter is cancer. Every time I see Matto’s videos like this, I’m reminded of why I don’t use it.
@@tylerjennings8242*every* social media has cancer, it just depends on where you look
its funny how 99% of the ppl on twitter wont even try to disprove any of the arguments or claims matt makes, like that willy guy who said "i will look into darkviper" but after that he only sling insults and name calling shows how he literally has nothing to say
"Video taking DarkViper down coming soon" and then crickets because they can't find anything of substance lol
When someone's beliefs is stained into their soul, no amount of perspectives or counter-points could change their mind. They go into a debate already closed-minded with the sole purpose to disregard you and make your argument seem insane. I like to call it the Flat-Earther Syndrome.
@@earthisadonut7213 That is true. That's why you would need an unbiased person to actually look into people related to this.
'I'll look into darkviper'
'LOL didn't find anything so I'll just say 'autistic' loads of times'
I find this attitude so funny
wait by willy do you mean Willymacshow ?
I have a feeling that this isint the last time we will hear from Theo but iam here for it
Same
Reoccurring joke villain
hahaha good one@@abdulazizmari9021
@@abdulazizmari9021 if he was a dc villain his name would be twofaced
Spot on. Theo is now defending a company that increased prices for their existing users (allegdly 8% of their users.) One developer was informed that his bill will increase by 15X. From $20 to 300$ a month. Best part? Theo is getting sponsored by that company :)
Like i mentioned on a previous video, the juxtaposition between wanting to stay out of drama and wanting to stop absolute shit human beings from dogging on you or others who dont deserve it is insane. You're so genuine matto, and it sucks that social media and content creation doesn't reward genuineness.
I hate that you're expected to just let people lie or talk down about you now, anytime you respond or call it out you're just 'interested in drama'.
What is this "speaking up for yourself" you seem to speak of? I can't believe you'd suggest something that makes sense!
I agree like he has to do this
It's like what high school bullies do. They think they have a right to barrage you and that you have no right to fight back. They never expect the left hook after they've shoved you in the back for the tenth time in a week.
@@IndyMiraaga The problem today is, you're the bad guy for retaliating, not them for harassing you to the point where you had no alternative. This is the case both in school and the adult world, and it makes no sense
Can’t believe someone can be so delusional
1 in 6 people
I would be shocked if it were not so common...
Just wait til you see the rest of those twitter posts
he and his fans are so confused at someone having basic morals and opinions that they think there must be some ulterior motive
Man, Trelawny really fell off since leaving the Van der Linde Gang.
lol
I love this comment.
lmaooo
Ok that one is good 😆😆😆
I agree evil uncle grandpa
Imagine compulsively lying and insulting another person for over a year, and when caught lying then asking to "settle this offline"... This whole "drama" happened online, it's only fair that Theo fully apologizes to Matt and Honeypot online to his entire audience.
The most interesting part is him bringing it up. JUST SHUT UP! People had forgotten about it.
You should just challenge everyone to a boxing match
nay, a gtaguesser-off
He would lose...
@@IsM1ku he would lose but have you seen the people shit talking him rn? I'm betting on the australian nightmare
@@ilikepigeons6101 the thunder from down under
@@ilikepigeons6101bruh shit talking? what about someone mad at you without reason? yeah My old Guy Idk if i still a friend with him
Yeah I remember i remember it man
People who dislike seeing other people getting called out because “it’s negative” are not as good natured as they think they are
enablers
Especially when someone is talking shit about you that ruins your image
His disappointed teacher act with the leak contrasted with his acting like a petulant child is comedic
Hey Matt. Finally you got through that awful mission😅💪
At least there were no cougars in this one
NAWWWWWWWWWW @@ChaosPootato
@@ChaosPootato cougars would be more preferable than dealing with a petulant man-child like Theo
Nice profile picture.
@@notEnzy Thanks. You too
in 3 months they will play gtaguessr
😹😹
i understand that should i? shouldn't i? mentality you have. trust me i do. you have morals and its not unlike a sense of justice. you feel so strongly in your heart for just the truth to be known. especially when it comes to you. its not a figure of pride- its how we all want to be treated.
you started with sticking up for Honeypot against Theo and rightfully so. It ended up being an attack on you next just for doing whats right. thats what heroes do. If not Iron-Matt, you're certainly the amazing Spider-Matt 🖤
Salutations, Matthew.
I completely agree with your evaluation of Theo's actions. It's clear that he lacks the maturity to understand the moral ramifications of his dishonest behavior as well as the repercussions of his actions. His incapacity to handle issues with honesty and maturity is further shown by his habit of lying and resorting to harassment when confronted.
In addition, I applaud your diligence for identifying Theo's behavioral pattern, especially his pathetic attempts to remain relevant by dramatizing and sensationalizing his actions. Sadly, he doesn't seem to understand that real credibility and actual worth come from sincere involvement and honesty rather than from staged controversy.
It's clear from watching Theo's behavior that he's caught in a vicious cycle of his own creation, one in which he must use trickery and deceit to keep his audience interested. But as you correctly said, this strategy is ultimately unsustainable and will probably result in more alienation and a decline in viewing.
It gives me hope to see people just like you who can still recognize the truth in the middle of the havoc that people like Theo have caused. I appreciate you expressing your viewpoint, Matthew. In a society that frequently puts sensationalism above content, it is comforting to know that there are still people who respect honesty and integrity.
Regards
Mads
Malignant Narcissism is a helluva drug.
The DefenceViperAU arc is awesome, and I am here for it.
Lets have a real talk about all the lying youre doing! I'm seeing sleeves in these thumbnails and yet everytime I click on the video Im not seeing sleeves!
It's Slanderous!
this feels like a Viper Rambles video, but it does fit well here too, especially as a somewhat chill wrap-up
8:40 purple username dino in chat "leakers in witness protection"
lmao 😅
It's very easy for people to say they don't want to see you covering this, but when you are the subject of the topic it is hard to avoid. I get why your audience may not want to see it, but you would arguably do more damage by letting people walk all over you. The situation with Penquinz0 is an example of that, and the situation ended up having a positive ending for not just you both, but the platform as a whole.
It doesnt seem like many other people said this so I wanted to. Thank you for the videos man!! I like to be informed on stuff of this nature and i can understand the time it can take to make a full lenth videos. So, as long as you make videos no matter what they are I will continue watching❤❤❤
I wonder why people like shitting on you so much. You ARE driven by your channel's popularity and the views you get on certain formats, but just because you are doesn't exactly mean you're content whoring.
RUclips, I'm pretty sure, is as much of a job to you as it is your community, so cheap shots at you like that are ridiculous.
And who wouldn't get agitated by someone talking shit about you repeatedly. If making videos like this helps you deal with these clowns, more power to you. You have my view man.
(If this goes on, maybe go into witness protection and change your last name to DeSanta)
Probably because of his controversial opinion, mostly on reaction stuff and his willingess to fight against it and call out those who do wrong.
Those who fight against popular opinions will always be unpopular, shrimple as that.
@@kirby1225uh, hating reaction content *_is_* the popular opinion.
I don't necessarily agree with the take, in fact I'd argue its flawed in all but the most absolutely egregious of cases, but its definitely not an unpopular opinion.
Super casuals just don't care, but in the age "MUH STABLE DIFFUSHION IS STEALIN ARTIST JAAHBS" and "ITS MAH PHON WHY CNT I REPAOR IT EASOLY?!" righteous indignation is basically the default setting.
As far as I can tll DV isn't even an extremist anti-reactor or anything, he just dislikes content that is less 'transformative'. (As fine as that is as a simple heuristic, I grow to hate it more and more as time goes on because its far more vague than most people realize)
I.e. : -Hasan- Hasan's Chair 'content' bad, Mauler content good.
Thats a pretty milktoast take, and its certainly not an "unpopular opinion".
(PS, just because I imagine it'll start shit if I don't address it, I dislike the "transformative" metric because "transforming" content can still be lazy, add nothing, etc. and non-"transforming" content can still involve the person engaging deeply, add a fair bit, etc. but they just can't easily completely "transform" it. "Transformative" is largely a blur-word people use to avoid the question. For instance, is adding a pixelation filter "transformative"? It takes basically no effort, yet it indisputably changes the work massively. What about having an AI redraw every frame of a video in oil paint and applying an audio filter to match? Again, its transforming the work basically entirely yet takes no effort, but to some could still add to or alter it's meaning. Cover songs take a lot of effort and might add something to / change the song, yet don't meaningfully "transform" it as its still basically the same song still being played on a musical instrument. See what I mean here? People don't actually mean literally transforming the work, nor is that realistically what most people care about. Instead the word has just been used as a blurry indefinable "you'll know it when you see it", completely ignoring the actual valid nuance of the discussion. In the clear cut cases like a reaction channel that is clearly not trying and just leeching, its low effort, adds nothing, and doesn't alter the work in any meaningful way, so its a passable metric in those cases, but even using it for those cases tends to make people blind to the real nuance in cases that aren't so simple. It also makes it hard to pin a meaningful distinction between legality & morality. For instance fanart is completely moral, but its technically using the creative works of other people without permission, so strictly speaking it'd be illegal. Simplifying the discussion to just an ill-defined "transformative" axis makes it impossible to talk about those nuances as well. Some immoral actions should be legal, some actions that are moral and should be legal aren't. Randomly insulting someone is immoral, but it shouldn't be illegal just to insult someone. Its sort of like how most people don't even know about the vertical axis on the political compass. Its there; it's important; its extremely relevant; buuuut we simplified the discussion to left & right, so most people don't even know about it despite that importance.)
@@felixjohnson3874 Well, just because it's a popular opinion doesn't mean it cannot be controversial, but it's clear many aren't talking about it. Also DV definitively doesn't hate reaction content just because it's not transformative, that's pretty far from his main point actually. The main point is that it gives reactors an unfair advantage compared to those who actually have to do the work of making a video, thus enabling react channels to work as content farms, but with high quality content.
You know what... I LOVE these "drama" videos. Mostly because you always logic and facts these fools to oblivion. It truly is a joy to watch.
Their community trying to track down and punish the person leaking the messages. Surely they realize something isn't right when that's a thing... We're not talking about private or personal information.
More Theo content? YES PLEASE. NGL I love everything you do when you BTFO reactors. It makes my soul happy to see them melt down so much.
You realize that this is literally why Drama farmers like Chud Logic, Turkey Tom, Bowblax, and Optimus maintain a following right? People like you who get this insane dopamine hit just mindlessly follow drama content because it's monkey-brained stimulation. This is made worse when you realize that a lot of people become outright addicted to this content to the point where they become depressed if they don't have drama content to hype them up. You shouldn't be finding happiness in watching others be brought down, even if they're human scum.
@@LuciferSweetDream one look at your pfp and name tells me all I need to know. it just seems like your trying to take out your frustrations on OP, this isn’t drama this is exposing parasites on this platform. People like you are the reason they can thrive and do whatever they want without consequence on this platform.
I've always been wary of Theo. I see him as authoritative on come aspects, but if you care about anything he says, you have to be able to back it up with second sources. I've been programming since the 80's, and writing websites since the 90's. But because I use a technology called .NET (by Microsoft), Theo would rather I die in a fire, rather than call me a peer. We've both been in the game for a long time, but from what I've seen, and the sarky comments he's made, if you venture into the world of Microsoft, you are forever damned, and exiled, and how dare you call yourself a web developer! Which is even more hypocritical, because TypeScript is a language written by Microsoft, and VSCode is written by them as well. His videos can be informative, so long as he stays in his lane. This kind of video has been really useful to me: ruclips.net/video/CQuTF-bkOgc/видео.html. But you have to keep him at arms length, and take his words with a gallon of salt.
What? I understand microsoft is ass but saying .Net is horrible is delusional, especially for windows forms apps
@@SuperWeapons2770 .Net Ecosystem is really good but Desktop apps really aren't popular anymore. Good for backend though.
@@SuperWeapons2770 sadly a loooot of Nodejs devs think this way because they're able to use it for BE and FE, i don't know if he likes vercel that much or if he has stocks there xD, he has some cool stuff but yeah do your own analysis... anyway ,rule of thumb use the tool fit for the task not just out of convenience
"I'm sorry I got caught". Fixed that for you ,Theo.
I am someone who's still studying computer science (almost at my bachelor's degree), had some internship jobs and stayed cool without causing any drama. Got fired anyways by one of those jobs meanwhile Theo can be this patty and get a place on Twitch. The world sure is unfair. Lol
"Mindbreak Theo%"
Cant believe Matto is still getting records
i am loving this new flow of videos!
12:18 I'm glad you're down to earth, shown by your response to the tweet, I'll keep watching what you do, admittedly hoping this may be the last video about the haters, do what makes you happy :)
THE OUTRO IS BACK! PLEASE KEEP IT MR. VIPER!
It's theover for him
Yo Matt, huge props for the thumbnail, looks surprisingly great for the usual stuff :D
The first Theo video auto played for me, after a random video of yours. Originally I stayed away from this because I didn’t really care, now I’m hooked
As much as these drama videos are a guilty pleasure for me (and most likely many others), please remember to take care of yourself too in the midst of all this, Matto. Thank you fot being who you are.
Personally I also hate drama, but support defending yourself! In the first 1 min of this video you have had more objectivity than all the shown tweets combined (possibly with the exception where they stated that those weren't their specific words).
I wish you all the best.
Yup sometimes you just have to let people stir in their hatred
One of my favorite ideas you presented was the concept of eventually unlisting drama videos after a certain amount of time of the subject of the drama not doing anything criticism worthy.
People should be given a chance to change the way they are perceived, without having to worry about some decade old video going viral or being found by someone looking into their past.
Hey Matto,
I've been following your content for quite some time now, and I hear you often say that people telling lies about you without knowing the truth frustrates you. I wanted to say that you create great content, and I really enjoy your videos. Among all the negativity you encounter daily, I hope you also recognize the positive impact you have. The fact that you produce some of my favorite content (long-form entertainment) and even convinced me to turn on notifications (which I don't often do) is hopefully something many people tell you and something you should know. Sorry for my bad English, as I am not a native English speaker.
i obviously understand the flashbacks especially for people who dont watch these back to back, but tbh with how many flashbacks there are, im starting to get flashbacks of watching naruto.
I dont usually get onto drama videos but matto really out here spitting facts
THANK YOU for putting the outro back in your videos!!!!Because it's during that time I click the like button if I liked the video, I HATED trying to watch the video and hitting the like thumbs up at the same time, VERY distracting trying to do that on XBOX, where I watch RUclips.
This might just be me but I don't mind the constant fighting with people to prove them wrong. I think most of the time it needs to be done and most people won't do it because they don't care about the truth as much as you do. Keep fighting with people until the mental burden is too much/ your life is affected to negatively to keep going.
Why can't we all just get along and not be assholes to each other? I could never understand people like this.
12:00 wait a minute...
Was this whole thing just you avoiding doing the red dead 2 speedrun!?!(!
Darkviperau lore is very fun to listen too
I wonder if "Stop!" in the end actually improved watchtime on the outro, hahah
12:10 This was all a very elaborate scheme to avoid playing RDR2! #Exposed
I think this "series" was very enlightening. My respect towards you, Matt, has increased even more. I hope you do the best in the future. I wish you nothing but the best man, you're amazing.
Narcissism doesn’t end well.
It’s funny how these supposedly “drama instigating clout chasing” videos are to boost his channel when they do worse than his gta content…
THIS WAY YOU HAVE HANDLED THIS SITUATION IS BEYOND COMMENDABLE IN TODAYS INTERNET AGE.
YT recommended his channel to me a year ago, and at the time I had no interest - it's not like I don't want to learn anything new, it's that the subject matter generally is not new to me, and it's often poorly explained by people who claim or imply they're experts when clearly they are not. After a few weeks of his vids being recommended, I relented. And it was a torrent of unmitigated horseshit. So I did a rare thing: clicked on the "do not recommend this channel." A year later, I now realise why the algorithm was recommending his nonsense, and why effectively blocking it was wise.
Good on you, Matt, for calling this out. I've always found these sort of dramas distasteful, and I like to avoid them, but this is truly an exceptional case, and the context you've brought has been illuminating. As long as platforms encourage foment, there will be these dickheads.
him calling you lunatic was riicchh wow.
Bro made the triple combo
"Surprisingly it gets worse"
Lol
i assume when the first thing they think of is 'he's arguing for clout' it is because that's what they're doing.
I just hope that honeypot got some business out of all this.
The documentary was great, and their mission statement seems admirable.
You are doing the right thing, even if not for yourself. I'm sure all of us appreciate your efforts. Stay strong ❤
i'm sure these two tweets have been compared side-by-side already, but in case they haven't:
a quote tweet that speaks pure facts is capable of inciting harassment. his series of tweets misrepresenting how honey pot dealt with the situation, painting them in a bad light and tagging them explicitly, isn't?
Theo
More like
Theover
THE OUTRO!!!
i have been watching u for 3 months I love ur content. Idc what other people say about you really. And i think many of us think the same. Love you viper❤.
All I have to say, is that these videos are pretty educational. It shows that being prepared to face your mistakes and/or to come prepared with proper research and facts makes you stand way stronger.
ngl this was a fun short series, love to see some dumb, low impact drama unfolding
Same. That 45 min video was a masterpiece.
HE COULDN'T HANDLE THE WEIGHT OF YOUR CROWN 👑
People will always cry wolf about you doing this and/or that, they always have and always will. That's just life. But I also feel compelled to remind us all that in some rare cases, it may be necessary to directly address/confront the liar, if only to save either them from hurting/harming themselves or anyone else
i wish you all the best too.
I have a feeling this won't actually be the end
I swear Matto's becoming the Australian counterpart to penguinz0.
Matt- I understand how you feel. I’m just an average Joe trying to survive in the world. I face abuse and corruption from systems that I will probably never be able to fix or change in a meaningful way. People tell me that I would have less problems if I would just shut up and do as I’m told. But that still doesn’t stop me. I believe that holding people accountable is something that just doesn’t happen as often as it should. Sure, sometimes it’s easier not to rock the boat. But I think we both know that the easy choice is rarely the best one.
The day we stop caring is the day we die. Keep fighting for what you believe in.
Finally! Even I got tired of this lol
DAMN THIS MAN IS ON FIRE DONT F WITH THE MAN DARKVIPERAU
while this might not mean much to you, these serieses of you showcasing how / why these people are bad actors gave a huge amount of respect towards you.
Probably the reason why i follow you (somewhat actively) despite me not really watching your normal gta content for the most part
Omg, that's the ending. I mean, the actual ending of the video 😍😍😍
Matto chose violence that day, and lemme say that I like when Matto becomes savagely and brutally honest.
The ending oh man, good one 🥹
Ah yes, the criminal act of being the bigger man and not bickering over bs.
combatting this openly does a service to combat misinformation in general, in the post-truth environment that is the internet today. It might not be what a lot of your viewers want to see, but it's in the best interest of all of us that these shenanigans don't go unnoticed.
I love watching you dunk on people
I think many of us ex theo watchers should thank you for this. I'm not really a fan of his, he has some specific knowledge about some webdeb stuff and is very opinionated, so i watched some of his videos to see how much i would disagree with him.
And it has happened before that he criticized someone for having X opinion, and then he did X. However these tweets, videos and his responses are proof that he doesn't care. He just care about his image, his optics, his views. He's willing to lie for that.
As many have said, his videos are mostly useless. He just reads an article and show his face. Sometimes he talks about how the article relates to his experience at Twitch, but only briefly. Unlike theprimeagen who, when doesn't let someone cook, is constantly pausing and talking and debating with chat, such that a 10m video/article turns into 1h. I think theo is more like an article aggregator.
Honestly Theo likely has NPD (Narcissistic Personality Disorder) based on his actions and repeated lying in order for people to like him. If this guy wouldn't be across the world I would honestly agree with what Matto said in his Email reply "If you could right now, take me and throw me in to a literal bus to rewind time and avoid loosing esteem in the eyes of others, I guarantee you would in a heartbeat." 14:22
Not only that, but he gives a bad name to other people with that disorder.
@@RennHans What narcissistic person has a good name???
@@LuciferSweetDream There are stages to it. There are plenty of people who are aware of their Disorder and are working on getting therapy and stuff but it doesn’t really go away
@@LuciferSweetDream And then there are people who are more quietly narcissistic, And it manifests in a way that doesn’t bother others
@@RennHans You do realize that most disorders are specifically only diagnosed when the condition becomes a chronic issue in either the patient's life, or those around them, right? Somebody who is "aware" of the disorder and seeking treatment for it is very unlikely to actually have NPD, since NPD is something that is only diagnosed when the patient is so far gone that they are completely unable to see reason. They may have a lack of empathy, or poor emotional intelligence, but that does not mean that have NPD.
People with NPD are typically completely unbearable to be around, and they often damage the lives of anybody around them, and especially those dependent to them. There is no such thing as a "quiet" narcissist. A quiet person may have narcissistic tendencies, but that is NOT NPD.
13:20 I relate to that guy who try to persuade you to stop these drama's so much. Don't take it the wrong way, I love you matt. But getting yourself into all these drama really serves you no good. I know you said that you can't help yourself but to confront these people about those lies, but the larger your channel grew, stuff like these are bound to happen. Just learn to ignore them. I think maybe you have the impulse to defend yourself maybe to secure your online appearance by addressing the truth? (not in a bad way, of course). But I think your viewers are really fair. Just look at your youtube short ramble comments. They call you out when you are in the wrong and recognize it when you are right. And I think that's sign of a really healthy community. My point being, we as viewers knows what internet noises are. I don't think no viewer is gonna go "ah that Theo guy has got a point" even without watching your defense videos. It's really one of the only red flags I have seen on your channel. Like otherwise this channel is literally perfect. A honest to god streamer that's not insane, is reasonably well educated, actually knows how to read, and is critical in their thinking and not just spewing nonsenses or words of no value for content. The "getting into drama" stuff isn't really a big deal, but I'm just saying that I can see you falling down this path and that's really not good for you. Again, I have to reinforce, we love you dearly Matt, do not worry about noises like that. And I wish you all the best going forward.
I'll have to watch this later. Glad to see another video.
Matty, i think your videos are a prime example of how to do internet beef. You are THE legend, you are my inspiration, love your content, love your videos
Stay as you are, you are awesome, more people should be like you and less people should be like him
5:07 I mean, it was literally stated like the title to a news article… facts.
Someone who just wants to watch the video for the background noise - "Oh sh*t here we go again"
these feel like anime episodes where the recap is 50% of the video lol
I still hope you do the red dead 2 speedrun I was really hyped for it.
insert "Stop, he's already dead" GIF here
I asked Willy Mac Show when the video about you would release but all he said he found someone more "spergy" then you
I'm legit mad that Matt was relating himself with Willy Mac because of the Hasan stuff. Matt criticizes Hasan from a good faith position while Willy Mac does it because he's a reactionary right wing idiot. Took less than a few months for him to turn on Matt because he was criticizing a chud friend of his.
man I missed that outro