Just had a test ride on this model this morning around inner-city Sydney. It was awesome. For a bike around town, to commute to work, for weekend getaways, etc this bike is astoundingly good. I used to own a Tuono-RR (2017) and the s1000r is a better bike. There I said it. I didn't think I would but this bike delivered in every way. Very easy to ride in traffic. Very responsive & HEAPS of giddy-up when you open up the throttle.
Man, I just wanted to write something similar... It's an instant classic. Can I borrow that? Btw, you pulled a very subtle remark after 9:35 in that regard, Scott (Warner): "With this you feel under control!" - also perfect. Even though some of you might have problems hearing the "with".
Thanks for that. I own a ‘17R, and I was expecting you to say it was dated. I have ridden the V4S and while it is more exciting and has more performance, I jumped on my 35,000+km bike riding home from the Ducati dealer (the sound of the V4S with full termi nearly had me trading on the spot...) and I thought “this is still a very good bike” and “this is more refined”. Another great vid 👍🏽👍🏽😁
I've Owned so many bikes through the years, Yamaha r6,r1 many times, mt09,Mt10, Ducati Pike's Peak multi-Strada,,Hondas repsol edition,2019 cb1000r, fireblade,,Kawasaki z1000, KTMs,Suzuki gsxrs 1997 up etc etc... so many,but The bike i will Always consider the most perfect bike I've ever owned, with the Smoothest throttle Response ever ,smoothest quick shifter,Most amazing suspension,Handling,Insane power when you want it.. Just everything I want in a bike I found in my BMW S 1000 R. I haven't tried every bike in the world but I've tried so Many,Give me a TFT screen and update the Design of the fairings, This bike could be my Endgame for years and years. BMW's wizardy and Engineering perfection
Thanks for revisiting this "forgotten supernaked"! I do love my '19 S1000R, like you said it does low speed and high speed very well! I'm happy enough with the dash, although I would have liked to have had separate wheelie control. I have found the suspension in DDC Road mode a little soft on a couple of occasions and I even had the bike give me a steering wobble once in a bend when I wasn't even going very fast! The two things I dislike the most about the bike is the very limited steering lock and the criminally poor headlights. I've replaced both halogen bulbs with LEDs which has improved things at night but the whole headlight unit should be updated with a modern LED/projector setup for both high and low beam.
Thank-you Scott for reaffirming what I’ve felt all along. I have the ‘19 M-sport edition and you are certainly correct when you say power corrupts. I had to put a set of bar risers and larger screen on it to make it a little more comfortable to ride. Great videos as always. Enjoy your F900 and stay safe!
I just bought my S1000R. I've really enjoyed it, smooth, quick, cruise control. The quick shift is amazing! I wish it was a little louder, but dont want to void the warranty.
As an owner of a s1000r for 6 years I appreciate this vid. I'm always thinking about changing, but haven't done simply because anything else would be a marginal improvement at best. And while the s1000r's been criticised for lack of character, to me that simply means it has few vices. Only regret - not ticking the cruise control option back in 2013 when I iut down a deposit! Didn't seem worthwhile back tthen - a few long distance trips makes me now think otherwise. When I do sell, it'll be for a very different type of bike.
Perfect review, thank you Scott. I was struggling between S1000R and F900R but this video was very helpful for my decision. S1000R might have old look but still a real weapon as you said. Despite the Swiss price start from 16900.- I belive I cant get any better bike than this, and I think no need to wait for the newest S1000R which will arrive next year. Ride safe Scott and hope to see you one day.
More than likely but you covid-19 aside you can get some great deals on the 2019 and 2020 models. The engine is a proven powerpack mate. You can't go wrong.
Even with this model you can't go wrong I'm so confused between this and the new s1000rr but I've tried so hard to find this particular model in India it's not available anywhere
Im amazed nobody is talking about the atrocious handlebar vibrations on this bike. I just bought a 2018 S1000r a few weeks back and put a few thousand kilometers on it. Will be getting rid of it very soon because of the horrible vibrations on it after 5500 RPM. No, heavy bar-ends do not fix it, only improves it slightly.
The handlebar vibration was an issue before 2017 version. Mine is 2018, vibration is there but acceptable. I checked with many bike dealers who said all litre bikes are more or less the same because of the power output. They told me if I thought changing to another bike without handlebar vibration would solve the problem, I would probably be wasting money. Sarcastically, they said I should try a cruise then. LMAO. That said, try riding without gloves and then with gloves that aren't too tight, you'll notice or probably be shocked the handlebar vibration issue may not be so pronounced after all.
Just bought the `17 model (updated version and coming from a `11 Speed Triple) and so far I am loving this bike. Some will say it has no character because it is too perfect? Well, with that said that is all the character I need :-) Also this Beemer is biblical fast and I think these 165 ponies is the end station for the naked road bike class. It seems BMW is very conservative on the hp rating and the wheel horse power is almost there with the crank horse power stated. It is faster then the `21 Triump Speed which is 180 hp advertised. Why didn`t BMW go up in hporse power with the new `21 S1000R? Well, I guess they had NothingToProve 😃
I bought this 4 years ago. Do I want a streetfighter v4? Maybe yes. Do I really need a new bike? Absolutely NO. Even in 2020 not every bike comes with heated grips and cruise control. It is a track monster as well, and you can save the money for someone to tune you suspension.
I love my 2018 S1000R Sport. With the addition of a small touring screen and Akro race headers to match the slip-on it is a fast and relatively comfortable ride. I never tire taking this (now) sub 200kg, 160bhp at the rear wheel wheel bike for a blast.
I'm not a fan of inline four engines, but I would be willing to overlook that if BMW would update the dash and the front mask to a different style, because this bike pretty much has everything you would need in a do-it-all bike, which is exactly what I would like. I'm really surprised that no other bike manufacturer puts heated grips and especially shifter as standard to their 20k priced bikes.
Had mine two years, love it. Personally I don't notice a lot of difference between road and dynamic modes but I keep it in dynamic because the exhaust just sounds so good! There is a big jump up to Dynamic Pro, which I only use on track, really ups the throttle response and obviously reduces ABS / anti wheelie. I do look at other bikes but still don't see anything better. If you only have space for one bike it's perfect, commuting, traffic, track, b road blasts, not a lot it can't do, it's riding perfection.
Great, great review. I had this bike from 2015 to 2016 and it was indeed too perfect for me. It was so easy to ride that I was going way too fast all the time.
Why didn’t BMW at least upgrade to the TFT on this? Ordinary. I added a taller screen & 20mm bar risers to my 2015 R. Made a HUGE difference to comfort. I “downgraded”🤭 from the first S1000RR! 😈As u said Scott, this is a track weapon! I did a track day on Phillip Island & ate RR’s through the tight turns. Of course they had too much power down the straights, but I was laughing my head off through the turns!🤣 For me, I could also ride this harder through the hills than the RR. It just fits me! It does bode well that BMW didn’t mess too much engine wise. It is a great versatile, torque meister! I agree with your sentiments being the ALMOST perfect sports naked👍🏼 Great review again Scott. Stay safe mate😷
Really great review. Thanks for your awesome content! For me I think that in today’s marketplace this bike is too dated. With the new design of the RR I suspect buyers expect the R to also shed it’s asymmetric ugliness and get in line with the nice TFT’s in their lineup. It’s fast, but with the V4 and other monsters hitting the street they need to bump the engine to be considered a contender. And having had one as a long term loaner for a bit I felt all it’s perfection translated to a total lack of character. I was never excited to ride it. It seems like they’re having “reached perfection” is marketing BS to cover for just phoning it in on this bike at the moment. But hey - I’m just some moron on the interwebs - what do I know.
Nice Video, good test! By the way: i own a 2018 S 1000 R and i permanent ride the Dynamic mode - without any problems. Over 20° C sometimes the Dynamic Pro mode - also without any problems. It's because i like it from time to time, to drive the bike pure without all the e-helpers. And it works, because he motor is very smooth and easy to operate only with the "right hand".
Nice one, thanks. This is surely one for the shortlist. The problem these days, with almost all of the bikes being so good, shortlists are getting longer and longer.
Subbed, great presentation I like your chilled approach and I find if a guy or gal starts giggling away whilst riding it has to show ultimate enjoyment. Ride safe chap, bizz.
Excellent bike. Fueling is spot on, suspension too. But if you ride in hot weather, this bike runs hot. Also the sound, some people love it, but for some reason I don't. I hated with previous non-acrapovich pipe, it might be better with the this acrapovich...
I guess we'll have to wait another year for an update which surely must include BMW's TFT screen. I test rode a very low mileage 2018 bike. I thought I liked the dated dash set up with the analogue rev counter, I do, but the digital info is so difficult to read while on the move. I found it easy to misread stuff and a little confusing, but the rest of the bike was fabulous. Maybe I would get used to the dash in time, maybe, but maybe not. I might wait for an update if that is going to be next year or save a few thousand in cash buying a low mileage used one.
Alex Morgan you do get used to the dash / I find it perfectly serviceable although the menu interface is annoying, but I rarely need to change settings.
Thanks for the great review. Just wondering what road you’re on with those twisties through the forest? I live in Bern so can’t be too far away. Cheers.
Except for a TFT screen (which is a cosmetic detail) the S1R still is a superb machine & amongst the best of supernakeds. I'm slightly bias as I have a 2017 model. Same spec as this 2020. The Aprilia Tuono is an amazing bike, but lacks the Beemers ease of maintenance & overall reliabilty. Yes, I've owned 2 Aprilias. the last being a V4 1000 Tuono. Amazing to ride, but broke down too much, so switched to BMW ;)
Hi Scott, good and honest review, just love your attidute and your honest way you run yr channel, "still" own an S1r 2019, so exactly same spec as your testbike! Great bike, great fun and outstandig performance. Despite all that, ordered an R1250R though, because I use the bike since 20 yrs for leisure but as a daily commuter all the time, after watching yr test and a drive find the latter far better for everyday use and far more versatile! Do you share my opinion? Hope i took the right decision.. Stay healthy and thx!
Yea the 1250R is much more "chill" and relaxed for everyday riding, I'd take it over the 1000R for a daily commuter any day. But that is because I'm 52 years old but just 10 years ago I'd take the 1000R. But today I'm getting to be more of a "comfort guy" 😁🤔
NothingToProve thx for the reply, holy words Scott, just turned 51 myself gosh😬..so hope i cope with the new baby😊, delivery nxt week! Keep riding safe!
Hi Scott...Thanks again for another really helpful and sensible review. Loving the way you break these down into Powertrain, Chassis, City Manners, etc. I'm about to grab myself a new machine and this has been on the shortlist for a few months, along with the F900r, and even though I know they will update this soon...it just seems like such an amazing package and maybe even a bit of a do it all. It just keeps calling me back. I've heard a lot of guys saying it has issues with the front end being light and prone to wobbles....is something you noticed?
Thank you, Ah, no I didn't notice that at all. I've ridden the 2018 and now this the 2020 model now and neither one had that. But this is at very high "track day" speeds, under hard acceleration and not all bikes have it which leads me to believe it has something more to do with tire type/brand than with the bike. The 1000XR has it a little too under the same conditions. But there are several conditions that can cause this issue. Is it something to worry about? No, not at all. I know a few Amateure racers that prefer to use this bike on track days, even one guy is a professional track day instructor working for the German govt. doing this and this is his bike of choice and his track times are right there with the pros using this bike. Of all the super nakeds, this is the number one choice for a track day weapon (well right there with the Tuono). Ride safe, Scott
Would have liked to have seen you talk about the wind blast with no bug screen vs the Tuono. It was between these two for me, but I chose the Tuono as I do very little city riding and the Tuono had better wind protection according to the reviews I have seen(not to mention a few grand cheaper). Also service costs are less and seems a little more fun to ride. Liked your Tuono rr review as well. Keep up the good reviews- it does really help when choosing a bike!
I may be able to live with that front-end (since I wouldn't seeing much of it), but no TFT in this day and age is a deal-breaker for me. Is BMW waiting to pair a TFT screen with a new engine for 2021? If so, I'll wait for 2021.
You really are missing out. Throw your smart phone in a Ram Mount and forget about it. The TFT is nice, but this is not really the type of bike it’s really needed on. I almost let that be a deal breaker for me as well, glad I gave in 1 year ago. I spend about 2% of my time looking at the instruments, and everything I need to see is easily viewed.
Great review. You mentioned that this would be good for track days but what about every day use and as an all a rounder? This bike is listed as a roadster in the same category as R 1250 R. So is it comfortable and why do you think is is not seen as a sport bike? Once you reviewed the R 1250 R would you take this bike over that one. Finally, would you wait on the 2021 Model coming out and what do you know about changes to the new S 1000 R model. Thanks
Ya know, last year I was shopping for a new bike, ride the S1000R, like you said, it’s near perfect. But too perfect. Too “German”. LoL Not a lot of character in my opinion like a SuperDuke, Tuono or a Ducati. But damn, it was pretty smooth. Might be my next bike if they update the engine. And yes, quickshifter was amazingly smooth.
That bike is a weapon, starting RRP here in the U.K. is 1k above a street triple RS but this is another level. How does it stack up price wise against the duke and tuono ? Love your videos
Still torn between this and the Tuono 1100. Looks like we get this version of the S1000R for the 2021 model year as well, and still this blue, which is ok because I’m not in love with the new bikes looks. Yes BMW has arguably the best TFT display but I have always loved their gorgeous white analogue tach.
Great review. Love your channel...and wish I was living back in Krickenbach, GE. There’s a brand-new red 2019 S1000R for sale at my local Florida BMW (6 miles on the Odo) with the Akra exhaust for just $12,999...and yet I really want to wait for the update. TFT, new motor, and for me, a new front end symmetrical design aesthetic. The current model may be a great bike, but it needs those updates to remain competitive, IMHO. (Especially in these trying times.)
I would personally jump on that deal. The bike is beautiful (you never see the front headlights when you are riding) and still very competitive. I never buy a first year model because we all know there are issues that had to be worked out before the "new" model is really ready. After all the recalls and everything is worked out, it usually takes a year or two especially if they make changes to the engine.
Soon am going to take one of these the S1000R and Super Duke R 2017 models, Tried them both.. Still cant really decide, if someone had them both it would be perfect to share his experience and some advices... Am looking for a daily fun complete bike, with trips in weekends and MAYBE 1 time track day every month (or not)...
I've had my s1000r for a year now after owning the s1000rr for 3 years and it's the perfect road bike. It does everything perfectly while being really comfortable. You want to cruise around enjoying the scenery? You can. You want to ride like a complete idiot? No problem either.
G’day Scott. Great review and also watched and enjoyed your recent review on the 2021 bike. In Australia, you can get a 2020 model ‘HP’ spec bike for around AUD$22k where as the 2021 Sport is a scratch over AUD$27k. Meanwhile, the M Sport version with forged wheels (not Carbon), Package is AUD$34k… I would be keen to hear your thoughts on this compared to the new one and if you think you can you justify the the extra cost of the new one? Appreciate your thoughts if you have time mate. Cheers.
Hi, na, get the 2020, the 2021 is better but not that much better. The 2021 may shave off a half of a second on your track times but is it worth that much? Yea, no. take care, Scott
Hello Scott, great review, great channel! one question: S1000R datasheet says regarding the braking system "Teil-Integral, abschaltbar" which means (I think) some sort of front rear combined braking system where the "combination function" can be switched off (true?). How does it work? if you use front brake it also activates the rear brake automatically, correct? but if you use only rear brake it does NOT activate front brake, does it? So what do you think in general about theses combined braking systems? Do they somehow change the way you ride (brake) - no more rear braking needed at all? Do you use that if the system is installed or do you rather switch it off, if possible. Never been riding such a system, as an average naked bike rider (z900rs at the moment) I wonder if a new bike should have it or not... Thank you! Greetings from Austria, Christopher
Linked braking has been around for a while now, I had it on my Honda CBR1100XX back in 2002 so it's nothing new. And yes it's a good thing. You don't even know it that it's doing it and no you don't need to use the foot brake because the hand brake does both. But I'm old school and still do both but when I just want the rear I just use the rear...especially when trail braking. But you have to be careful when doing it trail braking. You can turn off the rear ABS but I don't think you can turn off the linked part. Anyone else know???
It's just a rumor and that rumor has been going around for almost 2 years now. So who knows if it ever will be updated. It doesn't need it in my opinion.
Can you please let me know the camera & mount/rod you're using for the 360 footage? Is there a video on your channel showcasing your gear/equipment? Thanks!
Sorry no video, yet. The mount, well that is home made at least nothing you can buy as a set. I just pieced together the stuff I had and purchased some stuff I thought would work and trial and error...still working on it...still not happy with it but it works for now. No one makes a mount for the Ogio backpack to mount a selfie-stick to. The 360 camera is a Gopro Max on the end of a selfie-stick and the stick is mounted to the Ogio Mach5 back-pack. Ride safe, Scott
You have rode most if not all of the below bikes. Pls put their greatness in order for me. Mt10, zH2, Touno, superDuke, S1000, new Ducati Streetfighter
Love the color scheme. Great bike for the twisties...just wondering how the seating position is. Can you tour with it? ( thi is a question from a 62 year old 😉). Thank you Scott for another wonderful video.
Thank you, Yes you can but I'm 52 years old and I really wouldn't want to tour with it :( The seating position is about 3-4° forward and the legs are slightly tucked. Ride safe, Scott
JVL, I’m 64 and tour 3-4 times a year (covering 1,300-1,400 miles on 4 day trips). I added a Sargent seat and the BMW taller windscreen. I’m 6’5” and 200 lbs. Bike is comfortable and just does everything extremely well. I’ll also do 3-4 track days a year and it more than holds its own against race-prepped track bikes.
Man I’d would have loved tO have gotten one of these if they weren’t so expensive. I ended up going with a 2020 street triple r instead and it’s a hell of a bike.
and I've been on the track with an RS chasing a S1000R and I could hang with the S1000R everywhere except the straights. That's where the 1000R's power just walked away from me.
Its perfect in every way!!! ....Except....Looks ...its not the best looking naked by far ...!!! In my opinion that is ... it doesn't work really ...it wasn't designed as a naked ..just like the Tuono ...Fabulous bike ...Looks wrong...its what happens when a company takes a Sports bike and just reclothes it .... it doesn't work for me ....Mind you ..Ducati have done the same I think..??? but somehow they've managed to get it right ...The V4 is beautiful looking !!!...maybe some shapes just don't translate as good as others ..???
Paul Smith I assume you’re from the U.K. with the mention of mod2? Insurance may also be a factor depending on your age. My first bike after mod2 was a GSXR-600 which is easy as it’s fairly slow below 8k revs and it’s very light. I’d suggest a bike with around 100bhp or less is a good idea whilst you gain experience. The S1000R (my current bike) for example is a beast and too much even if insurance isn’t a problem. Other than that track tuition and advanced road training is worth more than anything else.
Hmm...I don't know. The triple has so much more character that I'd probably take that over this. But next year if this gets the new shiftcam motor that the RR got, and the TFT then I'd take this 😁
Just had a test ride on this model this morning around inner-city Sydney. It was awesome. For a bike around town, to commute to work, for weekend getaways, etc this bike is astoundingly good. I used to own a Tuono-RR (2017) and the s1000r is a better bike. There I said it. I didn't think I would but this bike delivered in every way. Very easy to ride in traffic. Very responsive & HEAPS of giddy-up when you open up the throttle.
"Power corrupts... even me" TRUE that. I love that bike. Great machine.
Man, I just wanted to write something similar... It's an instant classic. Can I borrow that? Btw, you pulled a very subtle remark after 9:35 in that regard, Scott (Warner): "With this you feel under control!" - also perfect. Even though some of you might have problems hearing the "with".
Thanks for the "TRUE",
Take care,
Scott
Thanks for that. I own a ‘17R, and I was expecting you to say it was dated. I have ridden the V4S and while it is more exciting and has more performance, I jumped on my 35,000+km bike riding home from the Ducati dealer (the sound of the V4S with full termi nearly had me trading on the spot...) and I thought “this is still a very good bike” and “this is more refined”. Another great vid 👍🏽👍🏽😁
I've Owned so many bikes through the years, Yamaha r6,r1 many times, mt09,Mt10, Ducati Pike's Peak multi-Strada,,Hondas repsol edition,2019 cb1000r, fireblade,,Kawasaki z1000, KTMs,Suzuki gsxrs 1997 up etc etc... so many,but The bike i will Always consider the most perfect bike I've ever owned, with the Smoothest throttle Response ever ,smoothest quick shifter,Most amazing suspension,Handling,Insane power when you want it.. Just everything I want in a bike I found in my BMW S 1000 R.
I haven't tried every bike in the world but I've tried so Many,Give me a TFT screen and update the Design of the fairings, This bike could be my Endgame for years and years. BMW's wizardy and Engineering perfection
The question is: does the S1000R have a soul; character....or is it just too clinical; too perfect?
I watched a lot of RUclips videos, and your camera angles and editing are some of the best I have seen. Kudos on your creativity!👍🏻
Thanks! 👍
@@NothingToProve I'd agree, you should have way more subs.
Thanks for revisiting this "forgotten supernaked"!
I do love my '19 S1000R, like you said it does low speed and high speed very well! I'm happy enough with the dash, although I would have liked to have had separate wheelie control. I have found the suspension in DDC Road mode a little soft on a couple of occasions and I even had the bike give me a steering wobble once in a bend when I wasn't even going very fast!
The two things I dislike the most about the bike is the very limited steering lock and the criminally poor headlights. I've replaced both halogen bulbs with LEDs which has improved things at night but the whole headlight unit should be updated with a modern LED/projector setup for both high and low beam.
RikkyTang! Agree! Big compliant is headlight housing or light bulb need upgrade to LED.
Thank-you Scott for reaffirming what I’ve felt all along. I have the ‘19 M-sport edition and you are certainly correct when you say power corrupts. I had to put a set of bar risers and larger screen on it to make it a little more comfortable to ride. Great videos as always. Enjoy your F900 and stay safe!
I just bought my S1000R. I've really enjoyed it, smooth, quick, cruise control. The quick shift is amazing! I wish it was a little louder, but dont want to void the warranty.
I just bought this bike to go with my S1000RR. It’s like a quarter horse to the thoroughbred S1000RR. Both amazing rides.
Trust me. You must be very, very careful when choosing this bike. Because it will transform you into a hooligan.
As an owner of a s1000r for 6 years I appreciate this vid. I'm always thinking about changing, but haven't done simply because anything else would be a marginal improvement at best. And while the s1000r's been criticised for lack of character, to me that simply means it has few vices. Only regret - not ticking the cruise control option back in 2013 when I iut down a deposit! Didn't seem worthwhile back tthen - a few long distance trips makes me now think otherwise. When I do sell, it'll be for a very different type of bike.
The only thing that’s hard on this bike is going +200 km. The windresistance is just too much.
Perfect review, thank you Scott. I was struggling between S1000R and F900R but this video was very helpful for my decision. S1000R might have old look but still a real weapon as you said. Despite the Swiss price start from 16900.- I belive I cant get any better bike than this, and I think no need to wait for the newest S1000R which will arrive next year. Ride safe Scott and hope to see you one day.
Super excited to see if they update this coming year. Considering how strong the naked market is, I'm hoping BMW really steps up to the plate.
I cant wait for the new on with the full tft screen I’m wondering if all this lockdown will delay the new one another year nice review Scott
More than likely but you covid-19 aside you can get some great deals on the 2019 and 2020 models. The engine is a proven powerpack mate. You can't go wrong.
Even with this model you can't go wrong I'm so confused between this and the new s1000rr but I've tried so hard to find this particular model in India it's not available anywhere
Im amazed nobody is talking about the atrocious handlebar vibrations on this bike. I just bought a 2018 S1000r a few weeks back and put a few thousand kilometers on it. Will be getting rid of it very soon because of the horrible vibrations on it after 5500 RPM. No, heavy bar-ends do not fix it, only improves it slightly.
The handlebar vibration was an issue before 2017 version. Mine is 2018, vibration is there but acceptable. I checked with many bike dealers who said all litre bikes are more or less the same because of the power output. They told me if I thought changing to another bike without handlebar vibration would solve the problem, I would probably be wasting money. Sarcastically, they said I should try a cruise then. LMAO.
That said, try riding without gloves and then with gloves that aren't too tight, you'll notice or probably be shocked the handlebar vibration issue may not be so pronounced after all.
Just picked up a used 2020 S1000R in the HP Sport colorway w/ 5 k miles ; love it so far!
Just bought the `17 model (updated version and coming from a `11 Speed Triple) and so far I am loving this bike. Some will say it has no character because it is too perfect? Well, with that said that is all the character I need :-) Also this Beemer is biblical fast and I think these 165 ponies is the end station for the naked road bike class. It seems BMW is very conservative on the hp rating and the wheel horse power is almost there with the crank horse power stated. It is faster then the `21 Triump Speed which is 180 hp advertised. Why didn`t BMW go up in hporse power with the new `21 S1000R? Well, I guess they had NothingToProve 😃
Lucky me, i’ll receive my black one in a week. Three tumbs up, lucky her. Beautiful landscape.
One Mush Man Look forward to your experience.
I bought this 4 years ago. Do I want a streetfighter v4? Maybe yes. Do I really need a new bike? Absolutely NO. Even in 2020 not every bike comes with heated grips and cruise control. It is a track monster as well, and you can save the money for someone to tune you suspension.
If a bike's not making you giggle and lough out loud; it's not the right bike 😁👌
We all need a bike with character and soul definitely...that just leaves Ducati, Aprilia and Moto Guzzi
Love you’re reviews...and your gleeful, little laugh! I know when I hear that, you’re enjoying yourself! 😄👍👍👍
I love my 2018 S1000R Sport. With the addition of a small touring screen and Akro race headers to match the slip-on it is a fast and relatively comfortable ride. I never tire taking this (now) sub 200kg, 160bhp at the rear wheel wheel bike for a blast.
I'm not a fan of inline four engines, but I would be willing to overlook that if BMW would update the dash and the front mask to a different style, because this bike pretty much has everything you would need in a do-it-all bike, which is exactly what I would like. I'm really surprised that no other bike manufacturer puts heated grips and especially shifter as standard to their 20k priced bikes.
Next week I will get my new 2020 BMW 1000 S and after this review I look forward to it even more thanks.
Had mine two years, love it. Personally I don't notice a lot of difference between road and dynamic modes but I keep it in dynamic because the exhaust just sounds so good! There is a big jump up to Dynamic Pro, which I only use on track, really ups the throttle response and obviously reduces ABS / anti wheelie.
I do look at other bikes but still don't see anything better. If you only have space for one bike it's perfect, commuting, traffic, track, b road blasts, not a lot it can't do, it's riding perfection.
Great, great review. I had this bike from 2015 to 2016 and it was indeed too perfect for me. It was so easy to ride that I was going way too fast all the time.
Ride like nothing to prove..love ur channel and style mate! Keep it up!
Why didn’t BMW at least upgrade to the TFT on this? Ordinary. I added a taller screen & 20mm bar risers to my 2015 R. Made a HUGE difference to comfort. I “downgraded”🤭 from the first S1000RR! 😈As u said Scott, this is a track weapon! I did a track day on Phillip Island & ate RR’s through the tight turns. Of course they had too much power down the straights, but I was laughing my head off through the turns!🤣 For me, I could also ride this harder through the hills than the RR. It just fits me! It does bode well that BMW didn’t mess too much engine wise. It is a great versatile, torque meister! I agree with your sentiments being the ALMOST perfect sports naked👍🏼 Great review again Scott. Stay safe mate😷
Really great review. Thanks for your awesome content!
For me I think that in today’s marketplace this bike is too dated. With the new design of the RR I suspect buyers expect the R to also shed it’s asymmetric ugliness and get in line with the nice TFT’s in their lineup. It’s fast, but with the V4 and other monsters hitting the street they need to bump the engine to be considered a contender. And having had one as a long term loaner for a bit I felt all it’s perfection translated to a total lack of character. I was never excited to ride it. It seems like they’re having “reached perfection” is marketing BS to cover for just phoning it in on this bike at the moment. But hey - I’m just some moron on the interwebs - what do I know.
Nice Video, good test! By the way: i own a 2018 S 1000 R and i permanent ride the Dynamic mode - without any problems.
Over 20° C sometimes the Dynamic Pro mode - also without any problems. It's because i like it from time to time, to drive the bike pure
without all the e-helpers. And it works, because he motor is very smooth and easy to operate only with the "right hand".
Nice one, thanks. This is surely one for the shortlist. The problem these days, with almost all of the bikes being so good, shortlists are getting longer and longer.
Subbed, great presentation I like your chilled approach and I find if a guy or gal starts giggling away whilst riding it has to show ultimate enjoyment. Ride safe chap, bizz.
Excellent bike. Fueling is spot on, suspension too. But if you ride in hot weather, this bike runs hot. Also the sound, some people love it, but for some reason I don't. I hated with previous non-acrapovich pipe, it might be better with the this acrapovich...
I guess we'll have to wait another year for an update which surely must include BMW's TFT screen. I test rode a very low mileage 2018 bike. I thought I liked the dated dash set up with the analogue rev counter, I do, but the digital info is so difficult to read while on the move. I found it easy to misread stuff and a little confusing, but the rest of the bike was fabulous. Maybe I would get used to the dash in time, maybe, but maybe not. I might wait for an update if that is going to be next year or save a few thousand in cash buying a low mileage used one.
Alex Morgan you do get used to the dash / I find it perfectly serviceable although the menu interface is annoying, but I rarely need to change settings.
Great delivery Scott like your reviews a lot, good job and a great bike, I've got the S1000XR and love it cheers 😇😎😀
Thanks for the great review. Just wondering what road you’re on with those twisties through the forest? I live in Bern so can’t be too far away. Cheers.
Except for a TFT screen (which is a cosmetic detail) the S1R still is a superb machine & amongst the best of supernakeds. I'm slightly bias as I have a 2017 model. Same spec as this 2020. The Aprilia Tuono is an amazing bike, but lacks the Beemers ease of maintenance & overall reliabilty. Yes, I've owned 2 Aprilias. the last being a V4 1000 Tuono. Amazing to ride, but broke down too much, so switched to BMW ;)
Your laugh at 6:13 made my day! Great review!
Hi Scott, good and honest review, just love your attidute and your honest way you run yr channel, "still" own an S1r 2019, so exactly same spec as your testbike! Great bike, great fun and outstandig performance. Despite all that, ordered an R1250R though, because I use the bike since 20 yrs for leisure but as a daily commuter all the time, after watching yr test and a drive find the latter far better for everyday use and far more versatile! Do you share my opinion? Hope i took the right decision.. Stay healthy and thx!
Yea the 1250R is much more "chill" and relaxed for everyday riding, I'd take it over the 1000R for a daily commuter any day. But that is because I'm 52 years old but just 10 years ago I'd take the 1000R. But today I'm getting to be more of a "comfort guy" 😁🤔
NothingToProve thx for the reply, holy words Scott, just turned 51 myself gosh😬..so hope i cope with the new baby😊, delivery nxt week! Keep riding safe!
Hi Scott...Thanks again for another really helpful and sensible review. Loving the way you break these down into Powertrain, Chassis, City Manners, etc. I'm about to grab myself a new machine and this has been on the shortlist for a few months, along with the F900r, and even though I know they will update this soon...it just seems like such an amazing package and maybe even a bit of a do it all. It just keeps calling me back. I've heard a lot of guys saying it has issues with the front end being light and prone to wobbles....is something you noticed?
Thank you,
Ah, no I didn't notice that at all. I've ridden the 2018 and now this the 2020 model now and neither one had that. But this is at very high "track day" speeds, under hard acceleration and not all bikes have it which leads me to believe it has something more to do with tire type/brand than with the bike. The 1000XR has it a little too under the same conditions. But there are several conditions that can cause this issue. Is it something to worry about? No, not at all.
I know a few Amateure racers that prefer to use this bike on track days, even one guy is a professional track day instructor working for the German govt. doing this and this is his bike of choice and his track times are right there with the pros using this bike. Of all the super nakeds, this is the number one choice for a track day weapon (well right there with the Tuono).
Ride safe,
Scott
NothingToProve thx, really appreciate you taking the time to reply.
Would have liked to have seen you talk about the wind blast with no bug screen vs the Tuono. It was between these two for me, but I chose the Tuono as I do very little city riding and the Tuono had better wind protection according to the reviews I have seen(not to mention a few grand cheaper). Also service costs are less and seems a little more fun to ride. Liked your Tuono rr review as well. Keep up the good reviews- it does really help when choosing a bike!
Brilliant video again , keep up this great work it keeps us all going until the lockdown is lifted properly 👍👍
2020 S1000r. The only bike to not benefit from the new TFT and LED craze on the rest of their models.
Hi Scott, I can't wait to see you trying the new 2021 just announced (Today is 11/20/2020)!
Yea, I'm looking forward to riding it too! 👍😁
I may be able to live with that front-end (since I wouldn't seeing much of it), but no TFT in this day and age is a deal-breaker for me. Is BMW waiting to pair a TFT screen with a new engine for 2021? If so, I'll wait for 2021.
There will be a new one soon. It is based on the S1000RR so it will come out a few years later.
Like you could ever buy a bike like this.
You really are missing out. Throw your smart phone in a Ram Mount and forget about it. The TFT is nice, but this is not really the type of bike it’s really needed on. I almost let that be a deal breaker for me as well, glad I gave in 1 year ago. I spend about 2% of my time looking at the instruments, and everything I need to see is easily viewed.
Yeah hopefully they go for led headlights and tft display next year. This bike is almost perfect that would be the finishing touch in my opinion.
What a beautiful city!
Great review Scott. Best looking bike I’ve seen in a long time. Fantastic colour.
I pray to BMW to *PLEASE NEVER CHANGE THIS DESIGN OR THE SIZE OF THE BIKE* IT'S STILL A COUPLE OF YEARS BEFORE I CAN AFFORD ONE :(
Wish it had the new TFT display.
2021model has fixed that and pretty much a new bike
I have a 2015 and still love the bike!
the best feature on my R is the cruise control
Love your videos . My weekly favourite 👍🏻
Great review. You mentioned that this would be good for track days but what about every day use and as an all a rounder? This bike is listed as a roadster in the same category as R 1250 R. So is it comfortable and why do you think is is not seen as a sport bike? Once you reviewed the R 1250 R would you take this bike over that one. Finally, would you wait on the 2021 Model coming out and what do you know about changes to the new S 1000 R model. Thanks
Ya know, last year I was shopping for a new bike, ride the S1000R, like you said, it’s near perfect. But too perfect. Too “German”. LoL
Not a lot of character in my opinion like a SuperDuke, Tuono or a Ducati.
But damn, it was pretty smooth.
Might be my next bike if they update the engine.
And yes, quickshifter was amazingly smooth.
I wouldn't consider the 2022 version due to the headlight and dropping the analog tachometer.
Agree with you buddy ill only take gen 1 and 2
So 2014-2020
Analogue is good
The videography is fantastic, classy review
That bike is a weapon, starting RRP here in the U.K. is 1k above a street triple RS but this is another level. How does it stack up price wise against the duke and tuono ? Love your videos
KTM SuperDuke and Aprilia Tuono are more expensive than the BMW.
Still torn between this and the Tuono 1100. Looks like we get this version of the S1000R for the 2021 model year as well, and still this blue, which is ok because I’m not in love with the new bikes looks. Yes BMW has arguably the best TFT display but I have always loved their gorgeous white analogue tach.
Power corrupts 😂😂very nice Scott 👍🇬🇷
Your audio/video is awesome!
Great review from a well experienced rider.
How is the fuel cut (on/off) throttle?
Smooth
Great review. Love your channel...and wish I was living back in Krickenbach, GE. There’s a brand-new red 2019 S1000R for sale at my local Florida BMW (6 miles on the Odo) with the Akra exhaust for just $12,999...and yet I really want to wait for the update. TFT, new motor, and for me, a new front end symmetrical design aesthetic. The current model may be a great bike, but it needs those updates to remain competitive, IMHO. (Especially in these trying times.)
I would personally jump on that deal.
The bike is beautiful (you never see the front headlights when you are riding) and still very competitive.
I never buy a first year model because we all know there are issues that had to be worked out before the "new" model is really ready. After all the recalls and everything is worked out, it usually takes a year or two especially if they make changes to the engine.
I think the new SuperDuke needs a closer look compared to the S1000R. Much improved suspension and frame geometry.
Yea, I'll ride that next week 😁👍
Soon am going to take one of these the S1000R and Super Duke R 2017 models,
Tried them both..
Still cant really decide, if someone had them both it would be perfect to share his experience and some advices...
Am looking for a daily fun complete bike, with trips in weekends and MAYBE 1 time track day every month (or not)...
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Another great review Scott. Did you ride the new Street Fighter V4? If so, how does it compare?
No, not yet ☹
i am watching this for the 5th time lol...
As always another great video!
Glad you enjoyed it!
I've had my s1000r for a year now after owning the s1000rr for 3 years and it's the perfect road bike. It does everything perfectly while being really comfortable. You want to cruise around enjoying the scenery? You can. You want to ride like a complete idiot? No problem either.
G’day Scott.
Great review and also watched and enjoyed your recent review on the 2021 bike. In Australia, you can get a 2020 model ‘HP’ spec bike for around AUD$22k where as the 2021 Sport is a scratch over AUD$27k. Meanwhile, the M Sport version with forged wheels (not Carbon), Package is AUD$34k… I would be keen to hear your thoughts on this compared to the new one and if you think you can you justify the the extra cost of the new one? Appreciate your thoughts if you have time mate. Cheers.
Hi, na, get the 2020, the 2021 is better but not that much better. The 2021 may shave off a half of a second on your track times but is it worth that much? Yea, no.
take care,
Scott
@@NothingToProve thanks for
Your advise mate. Stay safe!!
Just get a used 2017+ bike heaps of low kms examples on bikesales for 18-20k ish
great bike but definitely dated. I expect to see a new R next year or maybe later this year.
Still Beautiful Bike! Very good informative video.
Brilliant review!
Brilliant bike!
Many thanks! ✔️
Glad you liked it!
Hello Scott, great review, great channel!
one question: S1000R datasheet says regarding the braking system "Teil-Integral, abschaltbar" which means (I think) some sort of front rear combined braking system where the "combination function" can be switched off (true?). How does it work? if you use front brake it also activates the rear brake automatically, correct? but if you use only rear brake it does NOT activate front brake, does it? So what do you think in general about theses combined braking systems? Do they somehow change the way you ride (brake) - no more rear braking needed at all? Do you use that if the system is installed or do you rather switch it off, if possible.
Never been riding such a system, as an average naked bike rider (z900rs at the moment) I wonder if a new bike should have it or not...
Thank you! Greetings from Austria, Christopher
Linked braking has been around for a while now, I had it on my Honda CBR1100XX back in 2002 so it's nothing new. And yes it's a good thing. You don't even know it that it's doing it and no you don't need to use the foot brake because the hand brake does both. But I'm old school and still do both but when I just want the rear I just use the rear...especially when trail braking. But you have to be careful when doing it trail braking. You can turn off the rear ABS but I don't think you can turn off the linked part.
Anyone else know???
What kind of motor are talking about for 2021?
It's just a rumor and that rumor has been going around for almost 2 years now. So who knows if it ever will be updated. It doesn't need it in my opinion.
Can you please let me know the camera & mount/rod you're using for the 360 footage?
Is there a video on your channel showcasing your gear/equipment?
Thanks!
Sorry no video, yet. The mount, well that is home made at least nothing you can buy as a set. I just pieced together the stuff I had and purchased some stuff I thought would work and trial and error...still working on it...still not happy with it but it works for now. No one makes a mount for the Ogio backpack to mount a selfie-stick to.
The 360 camera is a Gopro Max on the end of a selfie-stick and the stick is mounted to the Ogio Mach5 back-pack.
Ride safe,
Scott
You have rode most if not all of the below bikes. Pls put their greatness in order for me. Mt10, zH2, Touno, superDuke, S1000, new Ducati Streetfighter
Love the color scheme. Great bike for the twisties...just wondering how the seating position is. Can you tour with it? ( thi is a question from a 62 year old 😉). Thank you Scott for another wonderful video.
Thank you,
Yes you can but I'm 52 years old and I really wouldn't want to tour with it :(
The seating position is about 3-4° forward and the legs are slightly tucked.
Ride safe,
Scott
That’s why you got the ultimate riding machine:s1000xr
JVL Definitely upgrade the seat! Add bar risers & taller screen. I did & these changes made a huge difference for touring! I’m 57.
JVL, I’m 64 and tour 3-4 times a year (covering 1,300-1,400 miles on 4 day trips). I added a Sargent seat and the BMW taller windscreen. I’m 6’5” and 200 lbs. Bike is comfortable and just does everything extremely well. I’ll also do 3-4 track days a year and it more than holds its own against race-prepped track bikes.
I am 60 years old. I love every aspect of my 2018 S1000R. No complaints whatsoever.
Loved my 1st gen S1000R but realized I simply ride too far (300 km days) to make it work. The S1R is the bike I should have bought
richtig hammer Kamera Perspektiven !
Good work...thank you 👍
Awesome review
Thanks!
How is it possible I don’t see one review on on the Aprilia Tuono RR ??? Out of all the bikes you have reviewed ?
Yes, I've been on one but never have made video...yet...hope to make a video review soon...this month, I think.
NothingToProve please do it be nice to see :)))
is there a big difference between this and the new one coming out 2021 i think it has the new headlight?
San Marino Blue Metallic beautiful but gas mileage is poor so the Speed Triple RS it is for me
No TFT ?
Man I’d would have loved tO have gotten one of these if they weren’t so expensive. I ended up going with a 2020 street triple r instead and it’s a hell of a bike.
Yea but the Street Triple R is much better looking than this...imho 👍😁
and I've been on the track with an RS chasing a S1000R and I could hang with the S1000R everywhere except the straights. That's where the 1000R's power just walked away from me.
Hi Scott, the s1000r has a cable clutch right, as opposed to the new KTM superduke 1250?
Hmm...good question I don't recall, the 1290SDR does but I think this does too but not sure. Anyone?
Yeah the S1000R has a cable clutch - not as light as a hydraulic clutch but not too bad.
Should I get a F900R or a S1000R, that TFT display tho, and also I can only find base model for the F900R.
Though knowing the features on f900r and xr, it'll be nice in a year or two
Just bought one of these love it so far but mine is a 2014 model. What make are your jeans been looking for them on the internet but no trace..thanks
Hi Paul,
The jeans are Trilobite Agnox, got them off of amazon.de.
@@NothingToProve ah excellent thank you 👍
Love this bike
Danke auch an Motorsport Burgdorf, von einem Kunden.😂👍
Its perfect in every way!!! ....Except....Looks ...its not the best looking naked by far ...!!! In my opinion that is ... it doesn't work really ...it wasn't designed as a naked ..just like the Tuono ...Fabulous bike ...Looks wrong...its what happens when a company takes a Sports bike and just reclothes it .... it doesn't work for me ....Mind you ..Ducati have done the same I think..??? but somehow they've managed to get it right ...The V4 is beautiful looking !!!...maybe some shapes just don't translate as good as others ..???
I first wanted a 310r, then 800 now this, just to explain got mod2 to do , have a yam ybr125.whats best and forgiving, honda 650.?
Paul Smith I assume you’re from the U.K. with the mention of mod2? Insurance may also be a factor depending on your age. My first bike after mod2 was a GSXR-600 which is easy as it’s fairly slow below 8k revs and it’s very light. I’d suggest a bike with around 100bhp or less is a good idea whilst you gain experience. The S1000R (my current bike) for example is a beast and too much even if insurance isn’t a problem. Other than that track tuition and advanced road training is worth more than anything else.
Scott, can you get a demo in Germany on American driver license?
Yes, no problem, as long as you have the motorcycle endorsement on the American license.
@@NothingToProve sure, sure, single letter "M" makes all the difference ;) thank you
I have a 2019 S1000R Sport. 10:00 to 10:15 says everything you need to know about this bike.
Would you like to take this one over Triumph Street Triple?
Hmm...I don't know. The triple has so much more character that I'd probably take that over this. But next year if this gets the new shiftcam motor that the RR got, and the TFT then I'd take this 😁
If Bob Ross rode bikes
I'll settle for the new 1000XR,thks.