Skyrim Mod Sanctuary 76 : Stable uGridsToLoad ENCORE

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  • Опубликовано: 5 ноя 2024

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  • @SkyrimBeast
    @SkyrimBeast 10 лет назад +19

    Gopher, it was very honorable of you to make this vid and offer the explanation you made, thumbs up

  • @GophersVids
    @GophersVids  11 лет назад

    Follow me on twitter. The announcements there seem more reliable. I rarely post stuff non video related either so dont worry about spam about what I had for breakfast :) Maybe the occasional retweet or random thought, but not many compared to most (I think).

  • @marinajordan8939
    @marinajordan8939 11 лет назад

    Gopher, you're quite possibly the most humble and awesome RUclipsr/ModMakers out there. Thanks for the Encore. It was very informative.

  • @Serialmonchoes122
    @Serialmonchoes122 11 лет назад

    Nice Gopher, you already had my respect, you just went way up again!
    It's nice to see you recognize those types of problems that can come with the mods. whoever, people should be aware that they are still mods, and it'll always have at least a tiny risk. Finally, thank you for all you do, continue!

  • @whoaitstiger
    @whoaitstiger 11 лет назад

    Gopher you are an extremely sensible man. Thank you for such informative and impartial videos.

  • @GophersVids
    @GophersVids  11 лет назад

    High risk mods tend to be ones that alter the main world space from what I can see. So things that add objects/buildings to Skyrims outside, or change the way NPCs spawn and path around the world are probably the highest risk. Again, I am not saying you should not use them, but be aware that uninstalling those mods might be a problem for your save game and they may cause instability.

  • @Tachinori
    @Tachinori 11 лет назад

    Gopher, Love the way you approached this. Not all people would be willing to admit if they said or did something wrong. This is one of the good reasons I prefer seeing if you've covered a mod I want to install. Don't avoid covering mods like this please. If anything, make sure you mention risks that mods like this bring and/or clarify whether or not you use them. The best way to tell a good mod from others is whether or not my favorite mod reviewer has covered it or is using it.

  • @GophersVids
    @GophersVids  11 лет назад

    The immersion mods are what I would consider low risk, but they are script heavy and they are the sort of mods that might give you trouble on a weak system or if you push uGridsToLoad to far. I classify them as must have mods though so for me the risk is worth it.
    ENB mods are the same as texture mods. As far as I know they cannot hurt your save game, and if your system shows problems running them, you can uninstall them without much risk. Maybe a tiny risk if they have an ESP included.

  • @FesojNagod
    @FesojNagod 11 лет назад

    noodlepie you actually thought about the feedback you got, you looked into it and realised that they had a point and therefor you made a new video explaining and doing it better! really good job gopher! i cant wait for richard chapter 4!! :D

  • @TheGreenAppMachine
    @TheGreenAppMachine 11 лет назад

    Just in time, was literally about to load up Skyrim! Awesome videos as always Gopher, you're the best on RUclips! :)

  • @BadFrancis74
    @BadFrancis74 11 лет назад

    I'm glad you stressed this, Gopher. I pushed my own grid level a while back with impressive results, only to corrupt my save files around the 60th hour(which I have read is about par for the course on this issue). Those who get away with it are far and few in between, as their reports lounge in the vast shade of the summit of horror stories that exist in their contrast. Bethesda should make a game engine that could possibly load more grids, but they simply haven't yet.

  • @GophersVids
    @GophersVids  11 лет назад

    No. Mods that add armor, weapons etc are pretty damned safe, although of course if they add the to level lists there is a tiny risk. I would not give that much worry though. And texture replacers are completely safe for your save. Obviously you may hurt performance or cause instability if you are using too many very high resolution textures, but you can uninstall them at any time and your save game will be fine.

  • @mikauanaki4866
    @mikauanaki4866 9 лет назад +4

    Imagine 10 years down the road when we can play in 8K HD and have ugrids to load 23.

    • @Practitioner_of_Diogenes
      @Practitioner_of_Diogenes 8 лет назад +1

      The engine wouldn't let that.

    • @PowerStar004
      @PowerStar004 8 лет назад +1

      For the record, ugridstoload 23 would basically load all of skyrim at once. There is basically no difference between 23 and 9999999999999 (or whatever the maximum value the code will accept).
      It's rather likely that the game engine itself would crash even if Picard tries to install Skyrim on the Enterprise and turn ugrids to 23.

    • @euricoaw1535
      @euricoaw1535 7 лет назад

      anything is possible, just the matter of time !!

    • @kazeryu4834
      @kazeryu4834 2 года назад

      Well, we only have 3 yrs to wait for that. the new SE engine might help

  • @GophersVids
    @GophersVids  11 лет назад

    I know a little, but actually weapons are something I have not touched. I mostly worked with armors, and there are some differences in rigging them I believe. And to be honest even with armors i am a hacky amateur who just kind of figured it out as he went along.

  • @GophersVids
    @GophersVids  11 лет назад

    The consensus seems to be Scenic Carriages.

  • @musharioh
    @musharioh 11 лет назад

    all i ever hear every where is ugrids are no no.. I did it once and I never recovered from it.. had to install my game Backup again.. we appreciate the honesty of your work Gopher

  • @Wolf_._
    @Wolf_._ 11 лет назад

    Don't worry too much mate. Everyone makes mistakes. Plus, you did warn people pretty well.

  • @01ldw
    @01ldw 11 лет назад

    Hypothetically that would depend on where you are standing because it loads a certain radius length around you, so if you are in Riften it would be a lot more than if you were in the middle if the map.

  • @ElectricMessiah
    @ElectricMessiah 11 лет назад

    Please do a video on shadows, soon. :) Thanks for another great video. I've learned I don't need to be messing with this setting, at this juncture.

  • @GophersVids
    @GophersVids  11 лет назад

    Phinex ENB without Ambient Occlusion but with Dynavision.

  • @GophersVids
    @GophersVids  11 лет назад

    Ok, that sounds reasonable. How about the new Touring Carriages?

  • @DakalaShade
    @DakalaShade 11 лет назад

    I find that the Stable uGridsToLoad mod is useful for other reasons. Even leaving uGrids at 5, I've noticed a major reduction in CTD's on loading areas with lots of stuff going on. Again, this could just be my specific modded game, with my system hardware and my character, but I've found it's good for stabilizing the loading of cells more than allowing you to crank it way the heck up.

  • @mouseno4
    @mouseno4 11 лет назад

    Oh no i was not saying you always do, it is just nice to hear. That and the fact you have a really lovely voice. That and your accent is just lovely. Just listening to your voice is soothing. :P

  • @tomkeane8823
    @tomkeane8823 11 лет назад

    That's soooo upsetting. I wept when you said Stiv wouldn't return. :(
    Can't wait for Richard to hit the scene again though :)

  • @DrGetgood
    @DrGetgood 11 лет назад

    The Falkreath Bermuda triangle crash was caused by the Scenic Carriages mod. And, you have to make a new character to fix it- no solutions. Also this is confirmed. So to anyone who is having or has had this issue(as I and many others have) I hope you'll see this.

  • @AnotherPostcard
    @AnotherPostcard 11 лет назад

    I'd also like to add that I've played on a couple different characters at this point while using Touring Carriages with no issues.

  • @spencercannon8259
    @spencercannon8259 11 лет назад

    Gopher love the vids man! You should start a short "Essential mods" series for skyrim. As a semi-beginner at modding I think it would be nice to know what YOU think i should start out with

  • @amzirak
    @amzirak 11 лет назад

    I have been using Touring Carriages for my entire new playthrough which is reaching 30+ hours and thoroughly enjoy it. Not to mention I have not had a single problem with it. It adds a nice touch to the game, and i think Richards horse could use a break every now and then,. ;)

  • @DrGetgood
    @DrGetgood 11 лет назад

    I've been using it ever since I made my current character. I've never had any CTD similar to the one Scenic Carriages was giving me. So I'd say it's perfectly useable :)

  • @ransom1000
    @ransom1000 11 лет назад

    Keep up the good work, Gopher.

  • @defosh369
    @defosh369 11 лет назад

    I've used to play with Grids at 9
    It was set at about 20 hours in my playthrough, I didn't have problems for the next 100 hours. After that, game was crashing to desktop in woods around Riften. Simply wandering around that area caused a crash. Luckily, lowering grids fixed this problem.
    Nowadays, I'm keeping my Grids at 7.
    It was set from the very start, and for 80 hours of play time, so far I didn't have a crash. I don't use many mods though (10-12), and I'm aware that this tweak is dangerous.

  • @soul2blade
    @soul2blade 11 лет назад

    Gopher your videos have help me have a better experience with Skyrim. So I'm glad that you addressed this issue very nicely. BTW are you hinting that Stiv Gro Fur is coming back? ;)

  • @krisissocoollike
    @krisissocoollike 11 лет назад +1

    ramble ramble ramble...

  • @AzureShadow88
    @AzureShadow88 11 лет назад

    GJ posting this, upvote this guy for awareness :D

  • @drbeavis4211
    @drbeavis4211 11 лет назад

    That had to me when I first started playing Skyrim. I had forgot that I had changed my ugridstoload earlier on and had steadily kept adding mods overtime. Now, I just keep it at 5 and use a bunch of LoD mods and whatnot. Ewi's ini files are great and almost mimic ugridstoload 7 when they are only 5 with its tweaks.

  • @DrGetgood
    @DrGetgood 11 лет назад

    Thanks man, it's my pleasure.

  • @EnglineIndustries
    @EnglineIndustries 11 лет назад

    Hmm I'm sure I don't watch as thoroughly as some here, but I'm sure i remember an early (2nd series) of Steve's play through where you did think about changing the U-grids. I'm sure it's nothing, there have been a lot of videos

  • @ErizotDread
    @ErizotDread 10 лет назад

    Just don't apologize too hard for people's lost saves, because the majority of mods out there recommend backing up your save before installing anyway, so it should be a regular practice when modding and tweaking your game to have backups.

  • @MrUnkown555
    @MrUnkown555 9 лет назад

    Thank you for your warning. I'm running about 120 mods and i was thinking about set ugrittoload to 7 but now i will leave it on 5 because i think the risk to crash my save with all these mods is to high. Luckily i watched this great video right after ur first video about ugrittoload. TY

  • @se7ensouls1
    @se7ensouls1 11 лет назад

    I do not no why people skip these. They explain alot

  • @kleeenco
    @kleeenco 11 лет назад

    Nice of you to upload this Gopher. You're a gentleman and a scholar.
    Did you ever figure out what happened to Stiv's saves?

  • @u1849ka
    @u1849ka 11 лет назад

    Might have to do with having too many textures and such that it's trying to load in. If it loads more into your VRAM than you have available it can cause instability, which may include infinite loading screens.

  • @AzureShadow88
    @AzureShadow88 11 лет назад

    I think he's using the mods surrounding realvision ENB (climates, realistic lighting etc), but not the ENB itself

  • @mouseno4
    @mouseno4 11 лет назад

    What the... ''...and as always, have fun!'' the usual ending line was missing?!?!

  • @GophersVids
    @GophersVids  11 лет назад

    Do I usually do that on the encore videos too? Been a while since I did one :)

  • @TheKazragore
    @TheKazragore 11 лет назад

    So I suppose you could say that Stable uGridsToLoad is a great screenshot taking tool, then, but if you want to use it for things other than just taking screenshots (like actually playing a character with it) then you have to be very very careful.

  • @Cbrodela
    @Cbrodela 11 лет назад

    I think I'm going to make this my motto.

  • @GophersVids
    @GophersVids  11 лет назад

    No, from what I can see it is not recoverable.

  • @DestructiveFlames
    @DestructiveFlames 11 лет назад

    That's what we thought about Skyrim before it was released.

  • @Anne_Ony_Mouse
    @Anne_Ony_Mouse 11 лет назад

    I think he wears that circlet for the archery buff.

  • @AnotherPostcard
    @AnotherPostcard 11 лет назад

    I had that problem way back when. All I did was uninstall it (after some troubleshooting uninstalling other mods) and I was able to continue. I must have been lucky to get out of that.

  • @JayMannStuff
    @JayMannStuff 11 лет назад

    Hey Gopher, how about a new series for mods like this? Skyrim Mod Test Lab? Something that lets people know by the name that it's a prototype, testing, slightly riskier mod to install and/or use. Make for tinkerers and people who want to try new things, but don't care about the risks as much.
    Maybe Skyrim Mod Sanctuary could be for stable, easier mods to install and/or use. =)

  • @SmokeRingHalo
    @SmokeRingHalo 10 лет назад

    This was exactly my issue - random crashing forgetting that I had ugridstoload @ 7 mainly because the game ran at 60fps & didn't struggle. So it's a resource issue, probably with the 3.1Gb limit.

  • @sterlings7098
    @sterlings7098 11 лет назад

    Wow gopher that was very humble but do you mind covering smart cast

  • @MLR135
    @MLR135 11 лет назад

    Respect! Maybe after this u shld like put a warning intro ie "modding can ruin yr game if u dont really know what yre doing." n put the risk level of the mod so that u wont hv to go through the trouble of always in need to explain every risk of the mods. I get it that yre helping modders n dont want to scare off people from modding but i think with yr modding for beginners series are already sufficient enough to help a lot of noob modders like me ;) really appreciate the effort bro!

  • @papapa51
    @papapa51 9 лет назад

    I don't remember anymore, but for exemple removing an npc that was added because of a mod should not corrupt things like some quest or anything

  • @bloodlord1989
    @bloodlord1989 9 лет назад

    messing with the ugrids ini on fall out NV creates issues the same way and i thought it was all the mods messing my loading time and crashing randomly with quests being complete.

  • @AntiCheatBot
    @AntiCheatBot 11 лет назад

    He means Phinix Natural ENB.

  • @SuprAtheAceofSpades
    @SuprAtheAceofSpades 11 лет назад

    Tried that one. It's definitely an improvement over the previous installment but it has some weird functionality issues from what I've seen.

  • @Vilirok
    @Vilirok 11 лет назад

    Did you ever think you'd get to part 76, Gopher?

  • @Foxie32
    @Foxie32 8 лет назад

    just delete the save if its screwed up its not that bad of a thing to lose or backup your saves

  • @connorsmith2506
    @connorsmith2506 11 лет назад

    More skyrim let's play

  • @FesojNagod
    @FesojNagod 9 лет назад +1


    you say the ugrids only last as long until you close the game, does it matter if you save the game or not? so if i play with ugrids 7 and save with this mod, will this mod prevent that from getting into my save oorr?

  • @bnerd1
    @bnerd1 11 лет назад

    very sportive of you

  • @SnakeDeShazer
    @SnakeDeShazer 11 лет назад

    Hey Gopher, do you happen to know anything about 3d modeling, like make weapons for the game? just curious, since you are a true Dovahkiin! thanks! love you videos by the way!

  • @TehruX11
    @TehruX11 11 лет назад

    3:30 I had the same problem, in the EXACT same location!!! CTD when entering the Falkreath area!!! This problem actually seems rather common, there're several forums about it, but no solution has been found. I lost a 120 hours character :(

  • @lemonpartyhellyeah
    @lemonpartyhellyeah 11 лет назад

    could be one of the few mods you didnt uninstall

  • @GenGre
    @GenGre 11 лет назад

    might it acctually help performance and stability to put my uGrids to something like 3?
    i know its not gonna look nice but couldnt it be helpfull in some cases?
    or is it just gonna make it worse by changing something?

  • @KeviNOlighT
    @KeviNOlighT 11 лет назад

    Hey, thanks! I'll check it.

  • @JayMannStuff
    @JayMannStuff 11 лет назад

    Gopher, it sounds to me liek UGridsToLoad depends heavily on CPU and GPU performance. In other words, more powerful systems can have higher UGridsToLoad, whilst lower-end systems may only be able to run stock.
    And also, like you said, more mods may weigh more heavily on your CPU or GPU usage. So maybe "adapt your mods for your current system" is the message?

  • @War_Pure
    @War_Pure 11 лет назад

    Although you can't recover Stiv, would creating a similar save game using console commands to match up his quests, skills, and perks work? I'm guessing you already considered it and deemed it too time consuming, but you never know....
    At least we can look forward to Richard's adventures. =)

  • @croix444
    @croix444 10 лет назад

    7:15 If the giant is dead, the quest was completed wasn't it?

  • @antony1397
    @antony1397 11 лет назад

    Just saying, im pretty sure somebody was trying to rebuild it at one point with nearly no mods, not necessarily perfect and i haven't heard about him in a LONG while but its something to look around about.

  • @jeak
    @jeak 11 лет назад

    I avoid changing my uGrids the same way I avoid disease, keeping distance and I might stay stable.

  • @IplayTekkit1
    @IplayTekkit1 11 лет назад

    Gopher , I like dynavision but I cant get it looking like you have.
    Could you post your dynavision settings maybe ?

  • @Anne_Ony_Mouse
    @Anne_Ony_Mouse 11 лет назад

    If you haven't tried it yet, the Skyrim Save Cleaner can recover some corrupted saves. It worked for me a couple of times. skyrim. nexusmods. com /mods/31724

  • @TheAD209
    @TheAD209 11 лет назад

    This is done with INI tweaks not an ENB :)

  • @Poldovico
    @Poldovico 11 лет назад

    I'm not really sure how you'd even be able to have two ENBs at the same time. To my knowledge that is not possible as they are all configs for one specific "hack" of sorts of the game engine. Other mods: as Gopher said they are all dangerous in potential, however texture mods are less dangerous in that they won't damage your save. Mods that add scripts can be a little worse because you can get problems from uninstalling them as well as if the scripts are wrong or just the vanilla game is bugged.

  • @lilturk726
    @lilturk726 11 лет назад

    Does anyone know how to get rid of the grass flicker? It's kind of hard to explain but when the grass gets blown by the wind the tips seem to flicker some. I don't see that in his videos and was wondering if someone could suggest a solution. Oh and BTW I don't have Ambient Occlusion turned on, I've heard that can cause the flicker as well. Thanks.

  • @FesojNagod
    @FesojNagod 11 лет назад

    crashes isnt the only thing you should worry about as he said in the video think carefully!

  • @anub1s15
    @anub1s15 11 лет назад

    it's kinda to bad there isn't a map mod that allows you to mark area's of the map : /
    if you heavy in to modding (150+ mods) your skyrim/new vegas/fo3 or even oblivion inevitably some area's of the map become crash zone's (i know of 2 that increase frequency in my current setup but haven't found one that reliably crashes yet).

  • @Vazio3
    @Vazio3 11 лет назад

    Yes, you're going to have some performance boost but it would be minimal(like, 3~4fps). And can make some quests bug, or events not happening as it should. I recommend not doing it.

  • @NovaBombsPatlen
    @NovaBombsPatlen 11 лет назад

    Why didn't you ever try reinstalling Scenic Carriages and going to the "Bermuda Triangle" to see if the issue is fixed

  • @Ko700el
    @Ko700el 11 лет назад

    you release alot of tension in the gpu by having NO AntiAliasing and activating at FXAA at advanced options... then use a performance version of ENB...they have their own settings and they are as best as they can be for their version

  • @KeviNOlighT
    @KeviNOlighT 11 лет назад

    Thanks and, just to be sure, would it be completely safe if I change uGridsToLoad with the mod, in the console, every time I start to play (maybe using a .bat file for making it easy), saving the game and all, but never changing it permanently in the .ini file? Would that take out the risk of changing uGridsToLoad? Sorry if I bother.

  • @defosh369
    @defosh369 11 лет назад

    That's why I'm not suggesting people to use this tweak, unless they really want to or need to.
    Problem with this tweak is that you can't properly test it, because, issues may occur instantly, or worse, much later in your playthrough. Risky stuff indeed.
    I have a question though: What you did to your shadows? They look rather great!
    Looking into description for visual mods used in the video, I don't see any linked to the shadows. Is that an ENB mod or something to do with Project Reality?

  • @AngryMrAthiest
    @AngryMrAthiest 10 лет назад

    Do problems only occur if Ugrid is changed from default? or can issues still occur.

  • @Vazio3
    @Vazio3 11 лет назад

    Gopher, I think you didn't make anything wrong in that video. Perhaps in the beggining of the video, you could explain what ugrids is, and then, explain what the mod does. You did that, but did not explain well the part of ugridss and perhaps some people get confused. Btw, don't avoid making videos because things like these. I really liked that mod.

  • @RXTRUX1
    @RXTRUX1 11 лет назад

    I tried setting u=9 and the game just crashed. Setting it to 7 seemed ok for a while, then it crashed.

  • @ISHOTGUNJENI
    @ISHOTGUNJENI 11 лет назад

    Hey Gopher
    If you can please answer that would be great, but do you know the main reason that can cause stutters? Mine are movement stutters and when distance Textures load.
    I use RealVision ENB Performance, quite a few Texture Mods (most are at 1k and 2k) and my System is i7 2600 @ 3.4GHZ, 8GB Ram, GTX 670 4GB.
    My uGrids are 5 which is the default I think, if you can answer that be great :-D

  • @watevatube
    @watevatube 11 лет назад

    Cry for help: I'm getting CTD and i've tried setting audio to 4100,Boss mod order,Tes5edit clean,reinstall.. uninstall of my few mods.. nothing works.I'm getting CTD sometimes outdoors and sometimes when I go into the perk screen.

  • @GophersVids
    @GophersVids  11 лет назад

    Røde Podcaster.

  • @GenGre
    @GenGre 11 лет назад

    thank you.
    then im just gonna leave it like the dev's wanted it too

  • @sigp226x5
    @sigp226x5 11 лет назад

    Hi All,
    I have some problem with my subscription to this channel.
    For some reason, I don't receive the updates anymore.
    I got this for this video and the last NV let's play + mod talk.
    I did receive the update for ENB 4 Revised though.
    Is anybody else having the same issue? Or have any advice on how to fix it ?
    Thanks

  • @6781spirit
    @6781spirit 10 лет назад

    In every game Ive tried to set graphics through ##prefs.ini. There are lots of advantages for player with baaaad PC(intel duo) like disabling vsync, etc... U can set what u want to see and what u dont. The only problem were these "ugridstoload". It was very unstable. This mod solves the problem.
    However, its not the only line that sets LOD quality. There is a nice guide on Nexus about these "cells to load" and solving the problem with lack of memory. sry for eng.

  • @glavgad
    @glavgad 11 лет назад

    Hi Gopher, i too have GeForce GTX 670 and similar amount of visual enhancement mods installed, so what is you uGridToLoad value? Mine is 9, with 11+ i get crashes, is it possible to push it up to at least 11 without crashes, with some mods maybe?

  • @killerqueen232
    @killerqueen232 11 лет назад

    Is it safe to assume that this lesson applies to shifting the uGridsToLoad down instead of up as well?

  • @TheInfiniteFrequency
    @TheInfiniteFrequency 11 лет назад

    Gopher please answer. If i install mods that add new armors, backpacks all that stuff and texture replaces, all your immersion mods that you showed in you immersion videos is it dangerous to mod Skyrim to that state. Two enb mods? Is it dangerous?

  • @JCDUBS709
    @JCDUBS709 11 лет назад

    Believe he is using RealVision ENB.

  • @Powerclick93
    @Powerclick93 10 лет назад

    Gopher i love you videos ,but with this mod we fucked up...We as you saying yeayah do it and me as listening...So i played with stableugrid,then after a while i removed it since i did not use it...There was only one problem....everytime i go to a room and wall textures flicker/disappear.....Any ideas for fixing this?