I raced the Scottish national 25mtt in 96/97 (can’t remember now which) When I finished riding I realised that I was locked out of my club mates car that we’d traveled to the race in. Graeme Obree saw me shivering as he was warming up and let me sit in his car, he even left me with the keys while he went on to ride. What a guy! His heart and generosity are as amazing as his cycling achievements. Legend
Same here... with Tramadol I've just been a nauseous mop for 3 days... until I stopped to take it, I largely preferred the pain for 3 more weeks but being able to think and act.
I use Graeme's hour record breathing technique in running. When I get close to the aerobic breaking point, I will do his breathing technique and get into control again. Very noticable running in a group on the track, getting shuffled to the back, about to break and drop into a jog, and then recover. GENIUS that man. Met him only once when he was selling wacky carbon handlebars of his own design. LEGEND.
Battle of the Bikes is a TV documentary that somehow through pure chance started covering Boardman and Obree before their first hour record rides, so you get an amazing inside view of things as they happened, rather than retold looking back. Full thing is on youtube
Saw Graeme OBree just a few years ago at the Tyneside Cinem ( I've the same photo jimmi, but with myself though!) , he done a talk in and Q & A with the audience of around 50 along with his battle mountain film release. A lovely guy, but my what a superb athlete.....his personal story is a little sad, but overwhelmingly a positive one. Watch the film when he needs to get 30cm narrow and how he " gets there"......wow!
Personally, the one thing that fixes burnout without fail is total separation from that thing. One of my main hobbies is scale modelling, which can often take a lot of time and effort to produce only a small thing. Burnout is quite common. However when I feel that complete lack of interest and motivation creep in I just stop, and every time within a couple of weeks I'm itching to get back to it. I think of it like food. We all like food, and nice food especially! And we all need it too. But even if you have the nicest breakfast possible when you wake up, you will reach a point where you don't want to eat any more. Then you'll go a few hours without food, and not even the thought of it. But then sure enough you start getting hungry again and it's time for lunch. Hobbies seem to work basically the exact same way, and the best solution to having 'eaten too much' is simply to wait and you'll be hungry again soon. --- Regarding the power meters thing, I think they're actually very good. Before I had one I took things a lot less seriously, in a bad way. Cycling was purely entertainment, and I wouldn't push myself much if at all. I feel like I have a very good handle on perceived effort being a cyclist all my life, however it was very difficult for me to plan routes and try new things without any data. The power meter has given me hard numbers to use. I know what sort of thing I *can* climb, even if I really don't want to. I know how hard I can push myself and when (if at all) I'll 'hit the wall' as runners would say. Before it was total guesswork, which meant planning new routes much more difficult. They're not necessary at all, and often too expensive for what they are really, but having a power meter has led to me making consistent improvement - getting fitter and faster with every ride - because I can track myself over time. Before hand the best I had was ride time and memory to try and estimate what sort of training results I was achieving, and if I was improving. And if I used different routes I'd have no idea how they all related to one another in terms of that.
Groupsets should absolutely be getting better for the same price, I don't agree that you have to get a tiagra for the price of an old 105. You should be able to get the improvements of technology for the same inflation adjusted price. But bc shimano and sram both increase there's no pressure to keep prices down
I was once prescribed Tramadol for pain relief after a serious injury.... it was REALLY difficult to come off and there were definitely some challenges in avoiding miss use of what I had left after I didn't need it for pain relief any more. Powerful stuff
How long did you take it for? End of last year I was on Tramadol for a month but stopped because it started to mess with my blood pressure and didn’t do that much for pain relief anyway. Since end of June my doctor put me back on Tilidine to reduce the amount of Ibuprofen and Metamizole I’m on but the pain relief is again only ok so I wonder if I’ll struggle to stop them at some point.
Cycling is unique in that racing is considered the ultimate goal and committed to riding. You never see people playing pickup games of street hockey or basketball expecting to be competitive or tracking their performance data
Have it right regarding Obree he was an amateur, who built his own bike, who would train on an old school bike trainer training to an old school clock. Training to exhaustion for an hour. His tuck position came before before his superman position. And the bearing from the washing machine was with respect to the q factor. Having a narrower bb meaned he needed some bearings. Which just so happened was from his washing machine. All the above meant the mosers hour record being broken (who under Ferrari was doped.)
Totally agree on van Vleuten. Saw her in training near Livigno last month.. She was riding her golden Canyon TT bike over a mountain pass, an absolute beast.
The way to avoid "cycling burnout" is to see cycling as a great transportation method that has a sporting aspect. Something like motoring. Most people don't race cars, but for those who do, life will eventually get in the way. If you drive a Ferrari in daily traffic, you'll be frustrated most of your life. Same thing goes for spending too much time on a Pinarello F.
Spot on about Tiagra (and lower spec groups from Shimano). I ride a 2021 Tarmac SL6 with Tiagra R4720 and Roval C38 wheels. Apart from less gears than 105, it is brilliant. Problem is that most cycling snobs need 105 or higher. Edit: my gravelbike is a Cube Nuroad with Claris 2x (50/34 - 11/32) and it rips! Great performance for the money. If I crash it doesn’t break the bank.
I rather use SRAM Apex/Rival 1x11 (not much more expensive but getting phased out) or Sensah GRX 1x12. 2x9 doesn't offer any additional gear ratios over 1x12 and speaking of gravel - unless you're a pro or bomb down alpine descents a 50/34 crank isn't suitable at all.
@@williwacker2774 my comment wasn’t about suitability. Nor do I compare it with SRAM. I merely stated that Claris performs pretty damn well for the money.
@@ArnageLM The price is compelling indeed. But I think you can get better bang out of your money. I won't go back 30 years to 2x8 speed (which equals 1x10 in terms of unique gear ratios) for any money. So I'd rather go with budget 1x groups (Microshift, Sensah, old SRAM). And I don't think it's good they put gargantuan 50/34 cranksets on gravel bikes. No clutch on the Claris/Sora/Tiagra RDs doesn't help either.
I have 10s 105 on my road and 10s Tiagra matched to GRX on my touring bike, Love them both, am happy using either, they both work, work reliably and consistently. Only "issue" is 10s Tiagra has a different cable pull to the 10s 105... hence the GRX.
Thats quite literally it. People who are hung up on the name. The whinging when 105 di2 came out was astonishing. Shimano have, for years improved their top end groupsets and what used to be cutting edge makes it down to the lower end groupsets. I would wager that Tiagra will go 11 speed in the next few years and basically become the same as 11 speed 105.
Tramadol is only banned by the UCI at the moment, it's not on the WADA banned list until next year, so different penalties apply compared with WADA doping offenses. I read the tramadol blood testing is relatively expensive, and often only done if there is "intelligence" to trigger a close look.
Speaking of burnout - usually it happens when a thing you do is much more than just that thing. For example, when people cycle not just (or mostly) for the sheer joy and fun of it, but it becomes a way to prove themselves. At some point I think it consumes a person and sucks all the joy out of the process. So I always remember to do silly, easy rides just for fun to remind myself that being on bike not always means breaking distance records and suffering doing intervals.
HANSGROHE SHOWERS AND TAPS. It’s science. If you need a bathroom faucet, you’ll look to Hansgrohe first. But only if you’re in the market. You won’t go out and get one out of the blue after Politt makes the break.
One thing I have to say, since I know you guys spent a whole lot of time with audio. It sounds really really good, both the sound quality and the isolation from noise outside :), don't think I've heard anything from the outside or humming from vents and stuff.
Cycling to work the other day, I came off, dislocated my shoulder, popped it back in and still beat my PB. 2 weeks later, and my shoulder's still too loose to lift things 😬 I can 100% believe that professional athletes can do some crazy things when they're competing properly 😅
I've been watching women's racing the last 2 years. I find it as entertaining as men's, and not only the big tours. They deserve more backing. Totally underrated.
Yaaaay, a new episode of my new favorite podcast!! You guys rock! The tempo is incredible! Absolutely don't get how you have the time and energy to do it so often, but I absolutely love it
You do read the comments!....you did my suggestion for overrated/ underrated. Anyhow, your ramblings have replaced a hole in my life since the speed metal cycling podcast stopped. Love it. Cheers guys. (While I am here, loved the cycling in Britain series too...carry on with the inspiration!)
I recently swapped out my Tiagra/Sora 9 speed components from my 2007 Allez with full Sora and I must say they are exceptional. Shifts are smooth and quiet. I think you basically just need to decide what size cassette you need and choose the components based off of that. I should have went Tiagra to get 10 speed, but I am quite happy with the performance of Sora.
I'm not appreciative of Shimano's sub-105 groups at all. It's simply a cost saving measure. Rebranded/Redesigned, slightly downgraded 105 stuff from the past. You find them on bikes in the price range you'd get with 105/Ultegra 10 years ago. For the price of a 105 Di2 you could get a Dura Ace mechanical 10 years ago, Apex is the price of Force 10 years ago.
@@williwacker2774 What's wrong with a cost saving measure? Also technology usually improves over time. I bought my Specialized Allez for $800 dollars back in 2007. to buy one now it would be almost double the price ($1400) New version still has rim brakes, is aluminum, and guess what, it has Sora components. I spent $450 for the groupset, my bike rides great and it saved me $1,000. Comparing things from 10 years ago? Sora is just as good if not better than 105 from 10 years ago. I have 105 on my bike from 1987, which at the time was top of the line. Sora is way better than that system. Also, not everybody has $10,000 to drop on a bike, nor do they need carbon everything and electronic shifters.
@@johndef5075 the group set I replaced had the little plastic thumb levers. it was a mix of Tiagra and Sora. not sure what the shifter/brake levers were. The reason I upgraded was for the cleaner cable routing and the fact that the front derailleur was failing when trying to shift. I was always afraid that little plastic button was going to snap off. The new Sora is super smooth.
My gf rides a 2x8 speed bike with Claris Shifters and Front Derailleur and in the back it is shifted by 9speed Sora. Works very well and it is extremely cheap to replace. One day I'll upgrade the bike if she still enjoys the comfy geometry by then.
On a note about sponsors I noticed that Asda in Ashington were selling Ineos hand sanitizer and wash .good content as always more north east content needed
I am convinced that doping has just gotten better at not being detected rather than going away. Watching Icarus has forever made me automatically translate “super-human performance” to “doping”. Massive money and super competitive atmosphere just are recipes for anyone and everyone involved to do bend or break every rule they can to stay in it.
His troubles aren’t over. AG2R Citroën is a member of MPCC which has specific rules against Tramadol so we have to wait and see what they do. In fact they could have requested the Tramadol test.
Cycling Burnout is a thing I got from cycling 👀 to the office and back everyday, dealing with horrible cycling infrastructure and ridiculously privileged and aggressive car drivers. At the end of the week I couldn’t get back onto the saddle for my weekend gravel rides. Mentally exhausted from and not able to recharge with cycling is a problem. Still trying to figure it all out.
Tramadol is really strong! Had it after collar bone surgery. Only for a week but is really addictive. And felt all jittery and weird when stopping it and that's only after a few days. Imagine being on it for months or years? Horrible stuff.
Toradol would also be an interesting drug to discuss. As far as I know, it’s legal (it’s used all the time in the NFL). It’s an NSAID like ibuprofen that you can inject. And fun fact: 30 mg of IV toradol (ketorolac) was found to be as effective as 12 mg of morphine in a study (without the addictive effects as far as we know). It’s used all the time to treat pain after surgery, and it’s very effective. Ask anyone who has had surgery or passed a kidney stone. It can totally ruin your kidneys or stomach if you have kidney issues or stomach ulcers. But if it’s legal, I’m sure some athletes would be willing to take the risk.
Annemiek started cycling in 2006 after playing footbal. And enjoyed studentlife a lot. So that is a part of why she peeks late. There is a video of her following the men of mitchelton scott. What it takes, one of the boys. She woke up crying put on some make up and a smile. And got on the bike with the men. And she was born in the town called Vleuten.
Pay disparity, women ride less in days and miles per stage, less revenue coming in from sponsors and less people watch it. They shouldn't be paid the same because it's not the same.
Regarding Tramadol, back in 2013-2014 Michael Barry was dismissed from Team Sky after talking about Tramadol use. There was also talk of "finish" bottles at the time. These were combos of Tramadol and Caffeine, supposedly handed out to riders in the final hour of races.
With regards to Shimano & Sram. Sales are probably only going to get worse as cheaper chinese groupsets get better and become more accessible with time. We've already seen it happening with some bike frame and wheel manufacturers such as Winspace (although Ive been told their prices have jumped in the last few years. Apparently they are planning to open up a brick and mortar store in the US somewhere and when that happens. Prices will go up even further to cover all the overhead costs involved.) mainstream stores will still sell Shimano/Sram equipped bikes so its not like either brand are going to die any time soon. But sales will definitely be lost.
When I first upgraded some parts to 105 - back in the 90s, it was a big investment. Looks like it is back to being a big decision. I'm actually perfectly happy with Tiagra, although I've paired some with old 10 speed 105 cranksets, which are cheap enough, weigh less, and look better.
Tyler Hamilton, The Secret Race is a fantastic book, explains this better than I'm about to. In his era The governing body at the time said that your hemoglobin levels could be up to a certain level say 50 parts per whatever, and you'll be fine, go over this, and you're going to be classed as doping. So everyone who was doping, doped up to that level. Sounds fair right? Well no, because not everyone's level was the same, so if your natural level was say 48, you were done for, you couldn't take the risk. However, if you were lucky enough to be in the late 30s or lower 40s you could dope and get a much larger performance gain, like Lance, you were quids in. And thus having a free for all dope inclusive Tour De Crack Heads wouldn't be fair, as we're not all created equal.
A question in earnest to whoever may have a theory. Pogacar beat the field in the TT in the recent Tour de France, except one guy. Vingegaard not only eviscerated the field but crushed Pogacar by 1:30. Yes of course, some of this was due to Vingegaard's surgical technique, but the rest was just w/kg. Some believe Pogacar is the best cyclist overall on the planet. My question is...if doping is scutinized and samples given before and after stages...and it is very difficult to explain Vinnegaard's advantage in 3 of the stages of the great race that separated him to a comfortable winning margin, how is it provable that Jonas was not transfusing his blood after grueling stages? Fresh blood = better performance. This maybe unprovable either way. Lance did it of course. But his blood was also laced with performance enhancing substances. But, how about remove the substances that can be detected by modern blood tests and just provide a fresh blood supply after each grueling stage after the blood is degraded with lactate and toxins? How is this provable either way?...or can it be proved or disproven? On the subject of doping, I just don't believe Vingegaard was that dominant over someone believed to be the best cyclist in the last 10 years 'all natural'. Only my opinion. Curious what you guys think?
For winter training, why not a basic mountainbike? 29" with 2.35" Schwalbe Big Apple style tyres. Predictable in the wet, roll fine. Comfortable, which helps because in winter you're more static on the bike. My training bike is a 29" MTB with ridig for and for bars a flipped trekking bar. Slight drop to it that way. Mighty fast, for a mountainbike. I have a single narrow-wide 36t up front but think I'll make that a 42. For a cassette I'm thing of an 11t for extreme tailwind (no downhills here unless it's a tunnel/bridge) and then the gap to 13t, 14-15-17... Adding the 12t in between 11 and 13 would cross up the chain more than idea, I am thinking? 135 mm hubs all the way for me still.
Speaking about consumer demand with regards to group sets, as a computer/tech nerd, you want to always be moving forward and not backward; so when the demand for bikes spiked during COVID, you have a plethora of newbie riders taking up “higher end” group sets, and anything lower just doesn’t feel right. Putting it into perspective, let’s talk about Jimmy’s fear of going electronic group sets and how he didn’t want to do it because he knows it’s JUST THAT GOOD, and he wouldn’t want anything lesser afterward. The obvious remedy to that would be to get a cheaper alternative like LTWOO eRX. Too bad they don’t make a mechanical brake option for a more accessible alternative (to be used on rim brakes or mechanical disc brakes).
Graeme Obree, so underrated. Apart from anything else just look at Obree riding his road bike in Battle Mountain. He's just riding old style Sora but... he'd got narrow bars and he's angled his brake hoods inwards for a more aero position. Exactly what all the pros are doing now that the "puppy paws" position has been outlawed. Graeme is a genius.
You have peaks and valleys but i knew when marriage and kids came calling that i'd have to trim times spent on my 3 hobbies down to 1. So Drag Racing and RC Racing had to be put aside. The bikes could keep me healthier anyway. Maybe 1 day with my boys we'll try RC and perhaps later build a race car. But even with going back to get my Masters this fall, I don't ever see a time i totally get rid of the bikes. -U10
The in-competition ban on using tramadol are offences under the UCI Medical Rules designed to protect the riders health and safety in light of the side-effects of this substance. They do not constitute Anti-doping Rule Violations.
This makes perfect sense. From somebody in a medical profession that deals with opioids all the time, there's no way an opioid like Tramadol could be considered performance-enhancing in any way, shape or form.
I had tramadol when I ripped my knee out and needed it to get through the physio..I had it with paracetamol to increase the pain threshold…it was 2012 when the Olympics was on..I was laid up,watched the whole games and then had to buy the dvd cause I couldn’t remember any of it…😮…at the time I thought I was fine.Must have been off my nut 😳
How often do you hear of sportsmen/women having a pain killing injection to take part, and nobody really bats an eyelid as they're not bothered....it's part of the sport. Meanwhile cycling ties itself up in knots trying to be ultra clean (obviously with good reason). I had Sora on a Domane AL winter bike a few years ago; it was perfectly fine, so much so I've just bought an 'old' Allez Sport with Sora as a winter bike.
Regarding adrenaline and injuries: I once decided to subscribe to a half marathon event at the very last moment, thus paying quite a high fee for it. Then, one kilometre into the course, I managed to roll over and sprain my left ankle. I thought that I had paid so much money for this bloody race that I can't just give up now, not for for this, and besides I likely wouldn't be able to run again for weeks anyway after I stop, so I'd better to just keep going. So I did, running the remaining 20k with that sprained ankle. Didn't quite make a PB, but did run my second best time, which still stands. After finishing the race my sprained ankle was super-swollen and started to hurt so very badly! I then had to use forearm crutches for the next three days because the pain was so bad, and it took months before I was able to ditch all ankle support and run normally again. (And yes, luckily, riding was always OK and even prescribed by the doctors!)
Lactate tests would need to be repeated to see development of the power-lactate curve. I used to have a crazy spike 15-20 bpm below threshold, I'd be dying in the seat. When I'd speed up (in heartrate), the pain would flow away. I trained to get rid of that, it killed me on longer MTB races, as I'd dip into that zone.
Personally I refuse to buy any new Shimano groupsets because they're all electronic and they cost a fortune. Stopped considering SRAM last year for the same reason. Look up prices for Ultegra 8000 mechanical when it came out, even figured for inflation it's half of the RRP on Ultegra Di2 today. No thanks.
There are also more reasons, like women ride 8 days, men ride 21 days, more cities are visited, more cities pay for the organizers to end races there, and more cities project hotels and tourism in their region. Women don't gather as much following, so cities pay way less for their presence, and organizers won't just take the money from other sources to put into the prize poll. 50k compared to 500k ain't that bad, seeing as one race has +100 years and the other 3 years.
@@hail_sagan2830 -Using the term "scale" is another way of arguing for equity. -If you want propartional pay then female tennis players need a pay cut. -Would you agree there is a difference between equal opportunity & outcome? Are you in favor of Mens UCI doing what the NBA does & subsidize the WNBA? If so, how is that equality & as feminst scream about, equal?
ryokan (riyo-kaan) is a traditional japanese inn/hotel/lodge in the countryside. Normally the main feature of the inn would be an onsen, a public (or private) bath where they channel water from a hotspring.
Shimano profits have been hit because they had to ramp up production due to 18 months of shortages. Early this year supply chains received huge amounts of stock just as Ukraine happened, affecting global prices - at the same time people stopped buying as many bikes - they are taking a hit by discounting to clear stock.
One of the big things to bear in mind with AVV's career as well is that her strengths have suited the way that modern women's cycling races have evolved. Earlier in her career, there weren't as many longer multi-day stage races - and certainly weren't many that included bigger climbs. Case in point, she didn't win the first three editions of La Course because they were just a shortened version of the Champs Elysee stage of the TdF - but when they changed it for a mountain stage she won the next two. It's not just her palmares either - she had a horror crash at the 2016 Olympics yet was back on her bike within two weeks, and won races a month later. Tough as nails.
Dig the ‘cast. I listen on a platform called Overcast. FWIW, I thought that cat Justin Francis cycled across America with was interesting and funny, and I really liked learning about adaptive cycle touring. Maybe a podcast guest in the future?
as a winter cyclist (In canada) the bike gear almost isn't as important as your clothing is. However I had a few changes I had to make to my bike. Larger pedals that can handle boots and studded tires for the snow and ice. that's about all I changed on my bike. Clothing though, god damn I had to buy so much new gear that could handle the temps. Goggles were the best purchase by far. Oh and more bike lights, when the sun goes down at 4:30PM I needed much better lights.
Need some advice I just bought a Cannondale synapse carbon 4 cashmere. Rode it for the first time. I don't seem to be changing gears properly. Doesn't seem like a $2600 bike should be making the sounds. Thinking about returning it. Let me know what u think I should do
Journal of Applied Physiology- Tramadol reduced perception of effort during the fixed intensity trial (P = 0.026). The 1.3% faster time in the tramadol condition would be sufficient to change the outcomes of a race and is highly meaningful and pervasive in this cohort of highly trained cyclists.
Damn right they are too expensive. I've downgraded to tiagra on my trainer bike and my tt bike is a mish-mash of 11s (still a 10s crank and rd since its friction shift). Sold my roadie with ult 11s di2. If i make my trainer bike a cheap crit bike for next yr, it will stay on 4700 group. -U10
I would say the better comparison of doping in an American sport is MLB. There was the huge controversy like in cycling and people seem to actually care about doping in baseball.
Not sure what Jimmi is on about here - Power Meters allow efficient specific training - no one in World Tour trains by feel - testing by HR is completely ineffective. Running has loads of monitoring kit - HRM, pedometers, watches that record strides, stride length, temperature, recovery…. The list goes in (no one has worked out how to make an accurate power meter for running).
You didn’t say why Shimano is suffering. My impression is that most of the components they make go onto cheap bikes, so the prices of high-end groups (sorry I can’t bring myself to say groupset) is probably not the cause. What is causing the problem?
Shimano is fine, they are still making the best group on the market by far. The issue is that in 2020, 2021 demand went through the roof and now sales are coming back down to reality. You guys are also correct in pointing out that Shimano's low-end groupsets are so fucking good, people are realizing it's not worth paying $1000 to save 400 grams of weight
Not that doping is okay in either sport but to play devils advocate, I'd say the reason it is far more frowned upon in cycling/endurance sports is because it directly correlates with more success. In the nfl, all of those guys are freaks of nature. There are tons of guys coming out of college that have off the chart physical stats but never make it in the nfl because at that level knowledge of the game is far important than being the strongest or fastest person on the field. Although cycling requires some tactics, usually if you can go faster you'll be more successful, which is why doping has a much greater effect on the outcome of races and is seen in much more negative light in the sport.
After being run over a few years back i was given plenty of tramadol and ketamine (damn the k hole is deep) among many other pain meds. I wonder if i had the drugs beforehand would i have beat the car through the roundabout and avoided the crash.. Some questions go unanswered.
At Sporza móre people watched the Tourmalet stage at the Tour de Femmes than San Sebastian. People not only didn't zap away but even looked especially for the woman so a good sign
Mountain stages will usually attrack far more interest, male or female. It's both measureable & somewhat personal for the viewer. The femmes would really have to screw up to lose public interest in their mountain stages
Those chambers you're talking about are sensory deprivation chambers, and if you're not prepared for it, it can drive one crazy. Not something you want to put somebody in you're trying to distress..
Another scientific point I guess, which explain the restrictions on doping is the difference in body reaction and performance augmentation : depending on the individual, nobody's equal with taking the same products which would be even more unfair
Prize money discussion is the same all over sports. When the athletes generate a certain amount of revenue, the organisers are able to pay an equvalent amount of prize money. Revenue can be accumulated IF the product/competition is interesting to the audience/customer.
I've used this drug for pain (injury, thigh tear and a calf tear) just twice in marathons. What happens is that it numbs the pain to the point that you blow due to not having a fatigue pain marker, so you run too fast, both times blew at around 22 miles, and you can't run through it, complete bang! Both times, I ran slower than should've, first as a novice (NY) and the second as a more experienced runner (1st of three Dubai marathons). From then on, when injured, I either did not run or just put up with the pain, so that I could regulate my pace from the pain of fatigue, which was always lovely...... Not.
Going to see more cases of parents doping their kids when they are at ages/levels where there is no testing. College Scholarships and Pro Contracts/Endorsements are on the line. So what if they wash out (or are just average) at that level while being clean (b/c they are getting tested), they got the contract or their college paid for. -U10
One of the problems with prize money is that it's a business, they can pay only a portion of what they make. If consumers and especially women don't get behind women's pro cycling and give it the viewership, then it isn't an interesting marketing opportunity and businesses won't invest their marketing capital into it in the same way as they do with men's cycling. In time, you'd hope viewership will grow, more businesses will invest and the disparity will be addressed.
Hi Guys, entertaining Podcast/RUclips. Love your stance on not always needing latest and greatest but the things that will do a perfect job for normal riders (Tiagra and 105). But as for the amount of experience/knowledge you have sometimes I find your advice to listener questions a little bit too superficial. Eg. winterbike there is a lot to say about it using different lubes for chain, bearings, different tires, swap wheelsets etc.. Would be great if you could spend a little bit more time on that so that listeners/viewers can really improve their riding experience upon your expert advice. Cheers
People have different levels pain tolerance. Two riders can have the same injury and one will be able to carry on and the other may quit the race because the pain is too bad. I’m an RN and worked in the intensive care unit and have taken care of many postoperative patients. I’ve had open heart surgery patients that have required very little pain medication and others that can’t move unless they receive a significant dose of pain medication. These differences carry over to sports. Opiate addiction is absolutely horrible and people with this addiction deal with it for life whether they are still taking the drug or have quit. The penalty for using opiates for performance enhancement should be severe and not tolerated at all.
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I raced the Scottish national 25mtt in 96/97 (can’t remember now which)
When I finished riding I realised that I was locked out of my club mates car that we’d traveled to the race in.
Graeme Obree saw me shivering as he was warming up and let me sit in his car, he even left me with the keys while he went on to ride. What a guy! His heart and generosity are as amazing as his cycling achievements. Legend
I was prescribed Tramadol after surgery once. I've got no idea how anyone could ride a bike while taking it, I could barely put the kettle on.
Which is why it's banned.....
Same here... with Tramadol I've just been a nauseous mop for 3 days... until I stopped to take it, I largely preferred the pain for 3 more weeks but being able to think and act.
I use Graeme's hour record breathing technique in running. When I get close to the aerobic breaking point, I will do his breathing technique and get into control again. Very noticable running in a group on the track, getting shuffled to the back, about to break and drop into a jog, and then recover. GENIUS that man. Met him only once when he was selling wacky carbon handlebars of his own design. LEGEND.
Graeme Obree is hugely underated. There are a few youtube films and interviews that are so inspirational.
Battle of the Bikes is a TV documentary that somehow through pure chance started covering Boardman and Obree before their first hour record rides, so you get an amazing inside view of things as they happened, rather than retold looking back. Full thing is on youtube
Flying Scotsman is the best sports film, it says here.
As someone who listens to a lot of gaming podcasts, the intro really got me wondering if I was in the wrong place😅
Saw Graeme OBree just a few years ago at the Tyneside Cinem ( I've the same photo jimmi, but with myself though!) , he done a talk in and Q & A with the audience of around 50 along with his battle mountain film release. A lovely guy, but my what a superb athlete.....his personal story is a little sad, but overwhelmingly a positive one. Watch the film when he needs to get 30cm narrow and how he " gets there"......wow!
Personally, the one thing that fixes burnout without fail is total separation from that thing. One of my main hobbies is scale modelling, which can often take a lot of time and effort to produce only a small thing. Burnout is quite common. However when I feel that complete lack of interest and motivation creep in I just stop, and every time within a couple of weeks I'm itching to get back to it.
I think of it like food. We all like food, and nice food especially! And we all need it too. But even if you have the nicest breakfast possible when you wake up, you will reach a point where you don't want to eat any more. Then you'll go a few hours without food, and not even the thought of it. But then sure enough you start getting hungry again and it's time for lunch. Hobbies seem to work basically the exact same way, and the best solution to having 'eaten too much' is simply to wait and you'll be hungry again soon.
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Regarding the power meters thing, I think they're actually very good. Before I had one I took things a lot less seriously, in a bad way. Cycling was purely entertainment, and I wouldn't push myself much if at all. I feel like I have a very good handle on perceived effort being a cyclist all my life, however it was very difficult for me to plan routes and try new things without any data.
The power meter has given me hard numbers to use. I know what sort of thing I *can* climb, even if I really don't want to. I know how hard I can push myself and when (if at all) I'll 'hit the wall' as runners would say. Before it was total guesswork, which meant planning new routes much more difficult.
They're not necessary at all, and often too expensive for what they are really, but having a power meter has led to me making consistent improvement - getting fitter and faster with every ride - because I can track myself over time. Before hand the best I had was ride time and memory to try and estimate what sort of training results I was achieving, and if I was improving. And if I used different routes I'd have no idea how they all related to one another in terms of that.
Groupsets should absolutely be getting better for the same price, I don't agree that you have to get a tiagra for the price of an old 105. You should be able to get the improvements of technology for the same inflation adjusted price. But bc shimano and sram both increase there's no pressure to keep prices down
I totally second your point. Nothing (other than wanting more $€) explains the bump in prices.
Well done! Cade Media 250,000 Subscribers!!! 👏👏👏👏👏
These boys talk an awful lot about pro cycling after saying a few weeks ago they barely watch it 😂 keep it up boys & congrats on 250k 🎉
I was once prescribed Tramadol for pain relief after a serious injury.... it was REALLY difficult to come off and there were definitely some challenges in avoiding miss use of what I had left after I didn't need it for pain relief any more. Powerful stuff
How long did you take it for? End of last year I was on Tramadol for a month but stopped because it started to mess with my blood pressure and didn’t do that much for pain relief anyway. Since end of June my doctor put me back on Tilidine to reduce the amount of Ibuprofen and Metamizole I’m on but the pain relief is again only ok so I wonder if I’ll struggle to stop them at some point.
Cycling is unique in that racing is considered the ultimate goal and committed to riding. You never see people playing pickup games of street hockey or basketball expecting to be competitive or tracking their performance data
Have it right regarding Obree he was an amateur, who built his own bike, who would train on an old school bike trainer training to an old school clock. Training to exhaustion for an hour. His tuck position came before before his superman position. And the bearing from the washing machine was with respect to the q factor. Having a narrower bb meaned he needed some bearings. Which just so happened was from his washing machine. All the above meant the mosers hour record being broken (who under Ferrari was doped.)
Totally agree on van Vleuten. Saw her in training near Livigno last month.. She was riding her golden Canyon TT bike over a mountain pass, an absolute beast.
The way to avoid "cycling burnout" is to see cycling as a great transportation method that has a sporting aspect. Something like motoring. Most people don't race cars, but for those who do, life will eventually get in the way. If you drive a Ferrari in daily traffic, you'll be frustrated most of your life. Same thing goes for spending too much time on a Pinarello F.
Spot on about Tiagra (and lower spec groups from Shimano). I ride a 2021 Tarmac SL6 with Tiagra R4720 and Roval C38 wheels. Apart from less gears than 105, it is brilliant. Problem is that most cycling snobs need 105 or higher.
Edit: my gravelbike is a Cube Nuroad with Claris 2x (50/34 - 11/32) and it rips! Great performance for the money. If I crash it doesn’t break the bank.
I rather use SRAM Apex/Rival 1x11 (not much more expensive but getting phased out) or Sensah GRX 1x12. 2x9 doesn't offer any additional gear ratios over 1x12 and speaking of gravel - unless you're a pro or bomb down alpine descents a 50/34 crank isn't suitable at all.
@@williwacker2774 my comment wasn’t about suitability. Nor do I compare it with SRAM. I merely stated that Claris performs pretty damn well for the money.
@@ArnageLM The price is compelling indeed. But I think you can get better bang out of your money. I won't go back 30 years to 2x8 speed (which equals 1x10 in terms of unique gear ratios) for any money. So I'd rather go with budget 1x groups (Microshift, Sensah, old SRAM). And I don't think it's good they put gargantuan 50/34 cranksets on gravel bikes. No clutch on the Claris/Sora/Tiagra RDs doesn't help either.
I have 10s 105 on my road and 10s Tiagra matched to GRX on my touring bike, Love them both, am happy using either, they both work, work reliably and consistently. Only "issue" is 10s Tiagra has a different cable pull to the 10s 105... hence the GRX.
Thats quite literally it. People who are hung up on the name. The whinging when 105 di2 came out was astonishing. Shimano have, for years improved their top end groupsets and what used to be cutting edge makes it down to the lower end groupsets. I would wager that Tiagra will go 11 speed in the next few years and basically become the same as 11 speed 105.
Tramadol is only banned by the UCI at the moment, it's not on the WADA banned list until next year, so different penalties apply compared with WADA doping offenses. I read the tramadol blood testing is relatively expensive, and often only done if there is "intelligence" to trigger a close look.
Speaking of burnout - usually it happens when a thing you do is much more than just that thing. For example, when people cycle not just (or mostly) for the sheer joy and fun of it, but it becomes a way to prove themselves. At some point I think it consumes a person and sucks all the joy out of the process. So I always remember to do silly, easy rides just for fun to remind myself that being on bike not always means breaking distance records and suffering doing intervals.
Burnout is putting a lot of effort in for 6+ months and being unrealistic with the results/feedback
In that picture with the Iconic Graeme Obree, Jimmy looks like a train spotter 😂
HANSGROHE SHOWERS AND TAPS.
It’s science. If you need a bathroom faucet, you’ll look to Hansgrohe first. But only if you’re in the market. You won’t go out and get one out of the blue after Politt makes the break.
One thing I have to say, since I know you guys spent a whole lot of time with audio. It sounds really really good, both the sound quality and the isolation from noise outside :), don't think I've heard anything from the outside or humming from vents and stuff.
Cycling to work the other day, I came off, dislocated my shoulder, popped it back in and still beat my PB.
2 weeks later, and my shoulder's still too loose to lift things 😬
I can 100% believe that professional athletes can do some crazy things when they're competing properly 😅
I've been watching women's racing the last 2 years. I find it as entertaining as men's, and not only the big tours. They deserve more backing. Totally underrated.
Yaaaay, a new episode of my new favorite podcast!! You guys rock! The tempo is incredible! Absolutely don't get how you have the time and energy to do it so often, but I absolutely love it
46:40 I believe the superman position was actually after the 'arms tucked', but enjoyed the show - cheers!
You do read the comments!....you did my suggestion for overrated/ underrated. Anyhow, your ramblings have replaced a hole in my life since the speed metal cycling podcast stopped. Love it. Cheers guys. (While I am here, loved the cycling in Britain series too...carry on with the inspiration!)
I recently swapped out my Tiagra/Sora 9 speed components from my 2007 Allez with full Sora and I must say they are exceptional. Shifts are smooth and quiet. I think you basically just need to decide what size cassette you need and choose the components based off of that. I should have went Tiagra to get 10 speed, but I am quite happy with the performance of Sora.
I'm not appreciative of Shimano's sub-105 groups at all. It's simply a cost saving measure. Rebranded/Redesigned, slightly downgraded 105 stuff from the past. You find them on bikes in the price range you'd get with 105/Ultegra 10 years ago. For the price of a 105 Di2 you could get a Dura Ace mechanical 10 years ago, Apex is the price of Force 10 years ago.
@@williwacker2774 What's wrong with a cost saving measure? Also technology usually improves over time. I bought my Specialized Allez for $800 dollars back in 2007. to buy one now it would be almost double the price ($1400) New version still has rim brakes, is aluminum, and guess what, it has Sora components. I spent $450 for the groupset, my bike rides great and it saved me $1,000. Comparing things from 10 years ago? Sora is just as good if not better than 105 from 10 years ago. I have 105 on my bike from 1987, which at the time was top of the line. Sora is way better than that system.
Also, not everybody has $10,000 to drop on a bike, nor do they need carbon everything and electronic shifters.
Im still using Sora 8 speed on my road bike. Works great and I like the thumb lever for upshifts.
@@johndef5075 the group set I replaced had the little plastic thumb levers. it was a mix of Tiagra and Sora. not sure what the shifter/brake levers were. The reason I upgraded was for the cleaner cable routing and the fact that the front derailleur was failing when trying to shift. I was always afraid that little plastic button was going to snap off. The new Sora is super smooth.
My gf rides a 2x8 speed bike with Claris Shifters and Front Derailleur and in the back it is shifted by 9speed Sora. Works very well and it is extremely cheap to replace. One day I'll upgrade the bike if she still enjoys the comfy geometry by then.
On a note about sponsors I noticed that Asda in Ashington were selling Ineos hand sanitizer and wash .good content as always more north east content needed
Major League baseball (MLB) has historically had a huge problem with doping, especially during the 90s and early 2000s. Look into it if you can.
I am convinced that doping has just gotten better at not being detected rather than going away. Watching Icarus has forever made me automatically translate “super-human performance” to “doping”. Massive money and super competitive atmosphere just are recipes for anyone and everyone involved to do bend or break every rule they can to stay in it.
His troubles aren’t over. AG2R Citroën is a member of MPCC which has specific rules against Tramadol so we have to wait and see what they do. In fact they could have requested the Tramadol test.
Cycling Burnout is a thing I got from cycling 👀 to the office and back everyday, dealing with horrible cycling infrastructure and ridiculously privileged and aggressive car drivers. At the end of the week I couldn’t get back onto the saddle for my weekend gravel rides. Mentally exhausted from and not able to recharge with cycling is a problem. Still trying to figure it all out.
Tramadol is really strong! Had it after collar bone surgery. Only for a week but is really addictive. And felt all jittery and weird when stopping it and that's only after a few days. Imagine being on it for months or years? Horrible stuff.
Great stuff. Catching up on the older content.
100% watch the "Flying Scotsman". Superb film :)
This show is significantly better than the Nero one.
Toradol would also be an interesting drug to discuss. As far as I know, it’s legal (it’s used all the time in the NFL). It’s an NSAID like ibuprofen that you can inject. And fun fact: 30 mg of IV toradol (ketorolac) was found to be as effective as 12 mg of morphine in a study (without the addictive effects as far as we know). It’s used all the time to treat pain after surgery, and it’s very effective. Ask anyone who has had surgery or passed a kidney stone. It can totally ruin your kidneys or stomach if you have kidney issues or stomach ulcers. But if it’s legal, I’m sure some athletes would be willing to take the risk.
Annemiek started cycling in 2006 after playing footbal. And enjoyed studentlife a lot. So that is a part of why she peeks late.
There is a video of her following the men of mitchelton scott. What it takes, one of the boys. She woke up crying put on some make up and a smile. And got on the bike with the men. And she was born in the town called Vleuten.
Pay disparity, women ride less in days and miles per stage, less revenue coming in from sponsors and less people watch it. They shouldn't be paid the same because it's not the same.
The fact that Enve is now fully hookless for wheels, that makes them over-rated.
Really enjoyed this episode , great shout out for Graeme obree , watched a fair bit of content recently about him , underrated
Regarding Tramadol, back in 2013-2014 Michael Barry was dismissed from Team Sky after talking about Tramadol use. There was also talk of "finish" bottles at the time. These were combos of Tramadol and Caffeine, supposedly handed out to riders in the final hour of races.
With regards to Shimano & Sram. Sales are probably only going to get worse as cheaper chinese groupsets get better and become more accessible with time. We've already seen it happening with some bike frame and wheel manufacturers such as Winspace (although Ive been told their prices have jumped in the last few years. Apparently they are planning to open up a brick and mortar store in the US somewhere and when that happens. Prices will go up even further to cover all the overhead costs involved.)
mainstream stores will still sell Shimano/Sram equipped bikes so its not like either brand are going to die any time soon. But sales will definitely be lost.
When I first upgraded some parts to 105 - back in the 90s, it was a big investment. Looks like it is back to being a big decision. I'm actually perfectly happy with Tiagra, although I've paired some with old 10 speed 105 cranksets, which are cheap enough, weigh less, and look better.
i would like to know more about Jimmy`s pas life as an ultra runner - really do enjoy that podcast format - well done guys !
Tyler Hamilton, The Secret Race is a fantastic book, explains this better than I'm about to. In his era The governing body at the time said that your hemoglobin levels could be up to a certain level say 50 parts per whatever, and you'll be fine, go over this, and you're going to be classed as doping. So everyone who was doping, doped up to that level. Sounds fair right? Well no, because not everyone's level was the same, so if your natural level was say 48, you were done for, you couldn't take the risk. However, if you were lucky enough to be in the late 30s or lower 40s you could dope and get a much larger performance gain, like Lance, you were quids in. And thus having a free for all dope inclusive Tour De Crack Heads wouldn't be fair, as we're not all created equal.
A question in earnest to whoever may have a theory. Pogacar beat the field in the TT in the recent Tour de France, except one guy. Vingegaard not only eviscerated the field but crushed Pogacar by 1:30. Yes of course, some of this was due to Vingegaard's surgical technique, but the rest was just w/kg. Some believe Pogacar is the best cyclist overall on the planet.
My question is...if doping is scutinized and samples given before and after stages...and it is very difficult to explain Vinnegaard's advantage in 3 of the stages of the great race that separated him to a comfortable winning margin, how is it provable that Jonas was not transfusing his blood after grueling stages? Fresh blood = better performance.
This maybe unprovable either way. Lance did it of course. But his blood was also laced with performance enhancing substances. But, how about remove the substances that can be detected by modern blood tests and just provide a fresh blood supply after each grueling stage after the blood is degraded with lactate and toxins? How is this provable either way?...or can it be proved or disproven?
On the subject of doping, I just don't believe Vingegaard was that dominant over someone believed to be the best cyclist in the last 10 years 'all natural'. Only my opinion.
Curious what you guys think?
You get what you deserve, 250k subscribers.
For winter training, why not a basic mountainbike? 29" with 2.35" Schwalbe Big Apple style tyres. Predictable in the wet, roll fine. Comfortable, which helps because in winter you're more static on the bike. My training bike is a 29" MTB with ridig for and for bars a flipped trekking bar. Slight drop to it that way. Mighty fast, for a mountainbike. I have a single narrow-wide 36t up front but think I'll make that a 42. For a cassette I'm thing of an 11t for extreme tailwind (no downhills here unless it's a tunnel/bridge) and then the gap to 13t, 14-15-17... Adding the 12t in between 11 and 13 would cross up the chain more than idea, I am thinking? 135 mm hubs all the way for me still.
Speaking about consumer demand with regards to group sets, as a computer/tech nerd, you want to always be moving forward and not backward; so when the demand for bikes spiked during COVID, you have a plethora of newbie riders taking up “higher end” group sets, and anything lower just doesn’t feel right. Putting it into perspective, let’s talk about Jimmy’s fear of going electronic group sets and how he didn’t want to do it because he knows it’s JUST THAT GOOD, and he wouldn’t want anything lesser afterward. The obvious remedy to that would be to get a cheaper alternative like LTWOO eRX. Too bad they don’t make a mechanical brake option for a more accessible alternative (to be used on rim brakes or mechanical disc brakes).
well done mates. Seattle is or almost in a "rainforest zone". Have you had/tied 'Spam'? More Zelda!
Graeme Obree, so underrated. Apart from anything else just look at Obree riding his road bike in Battle Mountain. He's just riding old style Sora but... he'd got narrow bars and he's angled his brake hoods inwards for a more aero position. Exactly what all the pros are doing now that the "puppy paws" position has been outlawed. Graeme is a genius.
You have peaks and valleys but i knew when marriage and kids came calling that i'd have to trim times spent on my 3 hobbies down to 1. So Drag Racing and RC Racing had to be put aside. The bikes could keep me healthier anyway. Maybe 1 day with my boys we'll try RC and perhaps later build a race car. But even with going back to get my Masters this fall, I don't ever see a time i totally get rid of the bikes. -U10
The in-competition ban on using tramadol are offences under the UCI Medical Rules designed to protect the riders health and safety in light of the side-effects of this substance. They do not constitute Anti-doping Rule Violations.
This makes perfect sense. From somebody in a medical profession that deals with opioids all the time, there's no way an opioid like Tramadol could be considered performance-enhancing in any way, shape or form.
I had tramadol when I ripped my knee out and needed it to get through the physio..I had it with paracetamol to increase the pain threshold…it was 2012 when the Olympics was on..I was laid up,watched the whole games and then had to buy the dvd cause I couldn’t remember any of it…😮…at the time I thought I was fine.Must have been off my nut 😳
I had tramadol after a climbing accident, I tell you, this thing can knock off a horse
How often do you hear of sportsmen/women having a pain killing injection to take part, and nobody really bats an eyelid as they're not bothered....it's part of the sport. Meanwhile cycling ties itself up in knots trying to be ultra clean (obviously with good reason).
I had Sora on a Domane AL winter bike a few years ago; it was perfectly fine, so much so I've just bought an 'old' Allez Sport with Sora as a winter bike.
Regarding adrenaline and injuries: I once decided to subscribe to a half marathon event at the very last moment, thus paying quite a high fee for it. Then, one kilometre into the course, I managed to roll over and sprain my left ankle. I thought that I had paid so much money for this bloody race that I can't just give up now, not for for this, and besides I likely wouldn't be able to run again for weeks anyway after I stop, so I'd better to just keep going. So I did, running the remaining 20k with that sprained ankle. Didn't quite make a PB, but did run my second best time, which still stands. After finishing the race my sprained ankle was super-swollen and started to hurt so very badly! I then had to use forearm crutches for the next three days because the pain was so bad, and it took months before I was able to ditch all ankle support and run normally again. (And yes, luckily, riding was always OK and even prescribed by the doctors!)
Lactate tests would need to be repeated to see development of the power-lactate curve. I used to have a crazy spike 15-20 bpm below threshold, I'd be dying in the seat. When I'd speed up (in heartrate), the pain would flow away. I trained to get rid of that, it killed me on longer MTB races, as I'd dip into that zone.
Personally I refuse to buy any new Shimano groupsets because they're all electronic and they cost a fortune. Stopped considering SRAM last year for the same reason. Look up prices for Ultegra 8000 mechanical when it came out, even figured for inflation it's half of the RRP on Ultegra Di2 today. No thanks.
There are also more reasons, like women ride 8 days, men ride 21 days, more cities are visited, more cities pay for the organizers to end races there, and more cities project hotels and tourism in their region. Women don't gather as much following, so cities pay way less for their presence, and organizers won't just take the money from other sources to put into the prize poll. 50k compared to 500k ain't that bad, seeing as one race has +100 years and the other 3 years.
then scale the pay proportionally. it’s less than 1/4 of what it should be.
@@hail_sagan2830 And how should it be ?
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-Using the term "scale" is another way of arguing for equity.
-If you want propartional pay then female tennis players need a pay cut.
-Would you agree there is a difference between equal opportunity & outcome?
Are you in favor of Mens UCI doing what the NBA does & subsidize the WNBA? If so, how is that equality & as feminst scream about, equal?
Men get paid less of a percentage than women in World Cup football yet men got paid more because they generate a larger pot!
Women were riding the tour in the 80s. So waymore than 3 years in total.
ryokan (riyo-kaan) is a traditional japanese inn/hotel/lodge in the countryside. Normally the main feature of the inn would be an onsen, a public (or private) bath where they channel water from a hotspring.
Shimano profits have been hit because they had to ramp up production due to 18 months of shortages.
Early this year supply chains received huge amounts of stock just as Ukraine happened, affecting global prices - at the same time people stopped buying as many bikes - they are taking a hit by discounting to clear stock.
Tramadol is banned by uci but not banned by wada. I guess that's why he can race
One of the big things to bear in mind with AVV's career as well is that her strengths have suited the way that modern women's cycling races have evolved. Earlier in her career, there weren't as many longer multi-day stage races - and certainly weren't many that included bigger climbs. Case in point, she didn't win the first three editions of La Course because they were just a shortened version of the Champs Elysee stage of the TdF - but when they changed it for a mountain stage she won the next two.
It's not just her palmares either - she had a horror crash at the 2016 Olympics yet was back on her bike within two weeks, and won races a month later. Tough as nails.
Great advice about not taking yourself seriously.
Dig the ‘cast. I listen on a platform called Overcast. FWIW, I thought that cat Justin Francis cycled across America with was interesting and funny, and I really liked learning about adaptive cycle touring. Maybe a podcast guest in the future?
as a winter cyclist (In canada) the bike gear almost isn't as important as your clothing is. However I had a few changes I had to make to my bike. Larger pedals that can handle boots and studded tires for the snow and ice. that's about all I changed on my bike. Clothing though, god damn I had to buy so much new gear that could handle the temps. Goggles were the best purchase by far. Oh and more bike lights, when the sun goes down at 4:30PM I needed much better lights.
Need some advice I just bought a Cannondale synapse carbon 4 cashmere. Rode it for the first time. I don't seem to be changing gears properly. Doesn't seem like a $2600 bike should be making the sounds. Thinking about returning it. Let me know what u think I should do
That hypnosis trailer just sounds like taking a bath with an audio book/podcast.
Journal of Applied Physiology- Tramadol reduced perception of effort during the fixed intensity trial (P = 0.026). The 1.3% faster time in the tramadol condition would be sufficient to change the outcomes of a race and is highly meaningful and pervasive in this cohort of highly trained cyclists.
Damn right they are too expensive. I've downgraded to tiagra on my trainer bike and my tt bike is a mish-mash of 11s (still a 10s crank and rd since its friction shift). Sold my roadie with ult 11s di2. If i make my trainer bike a cheap crit bike for next yr, it will stay on 4700 group. -U10
I would say the better comparison of doping in an American sport is MLB. There was the huge controversy like in cycling and people seem to actually care about doping in baseball.
The "Bash brothers" in Oakland & Bonds were shining examples
Ditto for Graeme Obree. Proud kickstarter backer of Battle Mountain. I was at the Premier too.
#maverick
I've also been where Obree came from and its literally a council estate, should be a millionaire - very talented guy!
Not sure what Jimmi is on about here - Power Meters allow efficient specific training - no one in World Tour trains by feel - testing by HR is completely ineffective.
Running has loads of monitoring kit - HRM, pedometers, watches that record strides, stride length, temperature, recovery…. The list goes in (no one has worked out how to make an accurate power meter for running).
You didn’t say why Shimano is suffering. My impression is that most of the components they make go onto cheap bikes, so the prices of high-end groups (sorry I can’t bring myself to say groupset) is probably not the cause. What is causing the problem?
Shimano is fine, they are still making the best group on the market by far. The issue is that in 2020, 2021 demand went through the roof and now sales are coming back down to reality. You guys are also correct in pointing out that Shimano's low-end groupsets are so fucking good, people are realizing it's not worth paying $1000 to save 400 grams of weight
I don't change groupset to get a lower tier or the same number speeds. I have 10s atm, so if I change it is for 11s or nothing else
Not that doping is okay in either sport but to play devils advocate, I'd say the reason it is far more frowned upon in cycling/endurance sports is because it directly correlates with more success. In the nfl, all of those guys are freaks of nature. There are tons of guys coming out of college that have off the chart physical stats but never make it in the nfl because at that level knowledge of the game is far important than being the strongest or fastest person on the field. Although cycling requires some tactics, usually if you can go faster you'll be more successful, which is why doping has a much greater effect on the outcome of races and is seen in much more negative light in the sport.
After being run over a few years back i was given plenty of tramadol and ketamine (damn the k hole is deep) among many other pain meds.
I wonder if i had the drugs beforehand would i have beat the car through the roundabout and avoided the crash..
Some questions go unanswered.
At Sporza móre people watched the Tourmalet stage at the Tour de Femmes than San Sebastian. People not only didn't zap away but even looked especially for the woman so a good sign
Mountain stages will usually attrack far more interest, male or female. It's both measureable & somewhat personal for the viewer. The femmes would really have to screw up to lose public interest in their mountain stages
Oregon, Washington, they are close to each other. I lived in Idaho for a while…..mountain biking is supreme.
Those chambers you're talking about are sensory deprivation chambers, and if you're not prepared for it, it can drive one crazy. Not something you want to put somebody in you're trying to distress..
Another scientific point I guess, which explain the restrictions on doping is the difference in body reaction and performance augmentation : depending on the individual, nobody's equal with taking the same products which would be even more unfair
The Women only raced 8 stages, Men 21 stages. Men 4x more miles. Should the Prizes be the same?
Exactly. They raced less miles, at less speed, with less fans, and produced less ROI.
Prize money discussion is the same all over sports. When the athletes generate a certain amount of revenue, the organisers are able to pay an equvalent amount of prize money. Revenue can be accumulated IF the product/competition is interesting to the audience/customer.
Hincapie? I thought it was Tyler (Hamilton) 🙂
BTW. accepting doping in pro sports would send a dire signal to the youth, wouldn't it?
There's a Surrey AND a Richmond in Vancouver!
I've used this drug for pain (injury, thigh tear and a calf tear) just twice in marathons. What happens is that it numbs the pain to the point that you blow due to not having a fatigue pain marker, so you run too fast, both times blew at around 22 miles, and you can't run through it, complete bang! Both times, I ran slower than should've, first as a novice (NY) and the second as a more experienced runner (1st of three Dubai marathons). From then on, when injured, I either did not run or just put up with the pain, so that I could regulate my pace from the pain of fatigue, which was always lovely...... Not.
Dustin Klein shoutout. Cool! He deserves more subscribers
lol I love the two mugs
Going to see more cases of parents doping their kids when they are at ages/levels where there is no testing. College Scholarships and Pro Contracts/Endorsements are on the line. So what if they wash out (or are just average) at that level while being clean (b/c they are getting tested), they got the contract or their college paid for. -U10
One of the problems with prize money is that it's a business, they can pay only a portion of what they make. If consumers and especially women don't get behind women's pro cycling and give it the viewership, then it isn't an interesting marketing opportunity and businesses won't invest their marketing capital into it in the same way as they do with men's cycling. In time, you'd hope viewership will grow, more businesses will invest and the disparity will be addressed.
y'all don't forget abt the lil plant on the table top! ..cuz it needs water n maybe a lil cleaning up on occasion doncha kno...
And don't forget Obree got binned from a pro team because he wouldn't dope.
Hi Guys, entertaining Podcast/RUclips. Love your stance on not always needing latest and greatest but the things that will do a perfect job for normal riders (Tiagra and 105). But as for the amount of experience/knowledge you have sometimes I find your advice to listener questions a little bit too superficial. Eg. winterbike there is a lot to say about it using different lubes for chain, bearings, different tires, swap wheelsets etc.. Would be great if you could spend a little bit more time on that so that listeners/viewers can really improve their riding experience upon your expert advice. Cheers
People have different levels pain tolerance. Two riders can have the same injury and one will be able to carry on and the other may quit the race because the pain is too bad. I’m an RN and worked in the intensive care unit and have taken care of many postoperative patients. I’ve had open heart surgery patients that have required very little pain medication and others that can’t move unless they receive a significant dose of pain medication. These differences carry over to sports. Opiate addiction is absolutely horrible and people with this addiction deal with it for life whether they are still taking the drug or have quit. The penalty for using opiates for performance enhancement should be severe and not tolerated at all.
FDJ Hypnosis booth - “You are not shit”.. on repeat…
Is there a recycling lorry outside?
THE FLYING SCOTTSMEN WAS AN AWESOME MOVIE
Are you allowed to smoke herb? Being a pro? Even if you're Dutch?