DBZ DID VEGETA DIRTY! Why did Akira Toriyama HATE him?
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- Опубликовано: 8 июн 2024
- In the Dragon Ball Z universe, few characters evoke as much polarized sentiment as Vegeta, the proud Saiyan prince. From his introduction as a villain to his eventual redemption and emergence as a fan-favorite anti-hero, Vegeta's journey is marked by complexity, intrigue, and a fair share of controversy. In this deep dive video, we explore the multifaceted reasons behind why Vegeta often finds himself at the center of both adoration and disdain within the Dragon Ball Z community.
From his early days as a ruthless antagonist, Vegeta's arrogance and thirst for power clashed with the principles of our beloved heroes, Goku and his allies. Despite his eventual alliance with the Z Fighters, Vegeta's abrasive personality and questionable actions continue to fuel debates among fans. Some argue that his character development and moments of redemption are overshadowed by his past sins and lingering pride, while others praise his depth and evolution as one of the series' most compelling characters.
Through a meticulous analysis of key moments in Vegeta's character arc, we delve into the reasons behind his divisive reputation. From his struggle to reconcile his Saiyan heritage with his newfound sense of morality to his relentless pursuit of strength at any cost, Vegeta's complexities offer fertile ground for examination. Additionally, we explore the impact of his relationships, particularly with Goku and his family, on both his character development and fan perception.
Whether you're a die-hard Vegeta supporter or a skeptic, this video offers a comprehensive exploration of why the Prince of Saiyans continues to be one of the most intriguing figures in anime history.
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I agree heavily with this… Vegeta not turning ssj3 when beerus slapped Bulma, or turning ssj3 in Buu saga were big signs of favoritism. Don’t even get me started on the ending to ROF…
Right! Abunch of missed opportunities to do him justice and also feed the OG fans with something cool and unexpected
It's been already evident that toriyama hates vegeta.
There are many times, where narratively it makes sense for vegeta to defeat the villain, only for goku to perform much better and get the win/kill
Fair
In all fairness some of those ass whoopings he got he bought on himself (i.e. Cell and #18) ; though I really got frustrated when they hoed him in Resurrection F for Goku to get the kill. ETA: I rocks with the background picture; it's dope to know that you're from out here as well
So true his ego and arrogance is honestly to blame for a bunch of the L’s. Also you know the vibes!! Massachusetts gang 👌🏾 Celtics in 4
I think Vegeta is in good hands with Toyotarou. We just need to wait another 10 years for content
Haha right
Good vid bro. I agree with you just have the question of how did he cheat to get GOD. I thought he got it from training with Whis and Goku even said in ROF that he didn’t get the benefit of getting it the easy way that Goku did and that he had to learn it from scratch.
This is true that he does say he obtained it through training with Whis at least as far as the manga goes, but the anime never explains how or when Vegeta was able to enter the mode. I think the Broly movie is actually the first time we see him in God mode. So as far as the anime goes it’s honestly up for debate how/when he got it. I just filled in the blanks for myself and assumed he got it some type of speedy unconventional way like he does with most other forms of
@@J2ATVMAIN Oh ok yeah I got you. You’re right they don’t show it in anime. We just hear Goku giving him props telling the others as Vegeta shows everyone that he can also turn Blue against Golden Frieza. That’s all they gave us for context.
There are a hell of a lot of things wrong with this video, Even thoug I agree with the main point.
Vegeta beat goku in their first fight fair and square, goku's friends jumped him, that's why he lost. He only considers it a loss because he failed his mission to kill goku and gain immortality.
Vegeta only started training his ass of in the gravity chamber after trunka arrived and showed super saiyan, not before.
Vegeta achieves much more than goku on his own, he's much more capable and self sufficient fighter. Goku never made a technique on his own, while vegeta has made like 10 which are more powerful than goku's learned techniques.
Vegeta surpassed goku in the android saga, on his own as piccolo states. While goku had sparring partners, mainly piccolo.
Goku had the god power handed over to him, while Vegeta trained for it under Whis. You got this one wrong too.
And vegeta achieved ss2 without the majin boost as vegeta states when he sees goku's power against yakan.
Im always open for debate bro. In there first fight Golu challenges Vegeta and embarrasses him (making him bleed and actually try) vegeta states multiple time how Goku is a lower class saiyan and there’s no way he should be as powerful as he is. Secondly vegeta does later get SSJ2 strength but that is AFTER he achieves it by going majin. He literally says himself that he let himself be controlled so that he could reawaken the evil in his heart and be powerful enough to fight Goku. Thirdly, I completely disagree that he achieved more than Goku as Goku trained by himself in the gravity ship on the way to namel and became light years stronger than Vegeta. Also he awakens SSJ naturally putting him light years ahead of vegeta at the time. He also learns how to fully master ssj 1 and made it his main state against cell where vegeta was not. Also Goku trains to get ssj 3 on his own. Vegeta spent time in the other world as well before fighting kid buu but fails as well.
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Yes, vegeta's pride was shattered in the saiyan saga. It's not because vegeta lost to goku, but because vegeta didn't fulfill his mission, and lost to a group of low level earthlings. He doesn't care that they jumped him, he believes he should have won regardless. In a 1v1 fight, vegeta crushed goku and left him defenseless, then krillin, gohan and yajurobe jumped him, that's why he lost.
you should look up videos where it explains clearly that vegeta had ss2 before the majin boost. When he sees goku's true power against yakan, he states, "so kakarot has surpassed super saiyan too" implying he has also has ss2. And vegeta literally states he's stronger than gohan and scolds him multiple times, there's no way he could surpass gohan just with his ss1 form.
And goku needed help from others always to get where he is today. He trained under master roshi, god of earth kami, popo, and also king kai who is another god. Vegeta caught up to goku on his own. It's undeniable vegeta is a more self sufficient and capable fighter than goku. If you disagree, name some techniques goku made on his own. That's right, you can't. Vegeta has made like 10 of them. Goku training for namek doesn't disprove anything. I'm not saying goku doesn't work hard, I'm saying he needed the teaching of godly beings to get where he is in Z, while vegeta did everything on his own and surpassed him in the android saga.
And at least you agree, that vegeta earned the god power through training with whis, while goku got it handed to him
Vegeta just like me fr 😔
dang bro, stay locked in bro your work ethic will take you far fr
Not gonna reply?
It's very clear that characters who are considered "negative" even when working for the greater good are always held in contempt in DB/Z/ect. There is this fascination with the "pure heart" and "never was evil" that just is not realistic, and when "pure heart" people do bad things it's just handwaved out of favoritism. Oh, it was just the situation, not the person. Meanwhile, characters who are deemed "impure" (often arbitrarily) are cast aside, not seen as victims of circumstance.
Super interesting take, I specifically was focused on Vegeta in this video but you probably could expand your thought to a whole bunch of characters in the Dragon Ball universe and some other anime tbh. Thanks for the comment!
Why did you speed up your own video?
People’s attention spans are shot these days so it helps viewer retention with longer videos. Also makes the different cuts I make when I’m speaking sound more seamless. I’m just trying to provide the best viewing experience possible for people who rock with my content
@@J2ATVMAIN Understandable. maybe scale your speed to match RUclips's speed scale so when I go down to .75 it sounds normal and not sleepy? because at 1.00 you sound a lil too fast and squeaky.
At least Frieza was killed from someone on vegetas family and king vegeta got his revenge through his grandson trunks thats something but in super i didnt like how short vegetas revenge was thats not right
And vegeta never gets to kill a main villain
They did him dirty
Bro had to prove he was the prince of the greatest race 😢
Fr, was pretty much fighting an uphill battle the whole show
Vegata always loses a major fight let vegata win a fight he trained from birth and Wonder Woman trained from birth she killed ares
It's important to show that being a decent person like Goku has real advantages.
I 100% agree with you I just feel like they didnt have to go as hard on Vegeta just to help emphasize that good things happen to good people. Just would have liked to see him hold a few more W's
Hot take but I honestly think that they did vegeta right.
I gotta hear your explanation lol
Vegeta always contributed in getting dubs like for example the first fight with goku helped him to become stronger and both of them learn more about themselves,the fight with frieza when he told goku to go super saiyan and avenge the saiyans , helped gohan defeat cell when no one else could, and gave goku enough time prepare for a spirit bomb to finish buu.
I think we’re arguing 2 different points tho. I’m never in doubt that Vegeta is a G and def contributed to some major wins for the group. He also had super dope moments himself. I’m just saying overall the show made him hold so many unnecessary L’s just because he has questionable character/morals
@@J2ATVMAIN True but that’s what makes him a great character is that he’s very complex. You never know if he’s good or bad. Besides all the ls he be taking teaches him humility which makes him more relatable and more of human trait because vegeta is an alien and he always finds a way to become a better man and get stronger while learning from each new experience.
I do agree that I like the complexity of his character. Similar to Zuko in a lot of ways