At both points it powered through Watford I was stood on platform 7 waiting for my 09:15 set down to dispatch and I have to say it looks amazing, the bold colours really do pop in the sun.
If you’re happy and secure with your own sexuality, why would this bother you? I don’t get it. I’m not sure that an all LGBTQ crew is necessary for it. As someone here has already said, it should be purely based on ability, although I’m sure the entire crew is qualified.
As tweeted by Avanti yesterday in a reply to someone tweeting them something very similar to this comment: "So the team working the first run of our Pride train yesterday morning were volunteers from our Frontline team representing our LGBTQ+ network. Moving forwards, journeys on this train will not solely be crewed by our LGBTQ+ community"
Some may roll their eyes and think "Isn't this a little exaggerated?". But as a gay man who has experienced discrimination and bullying when I grew up I can assure you that these wonderful gestures make a huge difference. Such moments give LGBT people and their straight allies the feeling of having WON the battle over bigotry. This feeling of "victory" is so encouraging and so important. I am also greatful that they didn't use an outdated, ugly old diesel train but Britain's only tilting high speed train, a wonder of modern engineering and a reason to be PROUD in its own right. 👍👍👍
A lovely livery (and great message) - though I do wonder when the rest of the fleet will actually be repainted in Avanti livery, last time I was at New Street some of them still had Virgin nameplates!
I've seen this awesome unit about 3 times now. I'd love to see it, at speed, with all of the bright, vibrant colours rushing past! Definitely represents two lovely communities!
I presume you mean “Hetero”, in which case the 55 other Pendolinos in active service as well as the entirety of Avanti’s Voyager fleets aren’t in the Pride livery
Hetrosexuals do not face discrimination daily. They don't get murdered in over 70 countries for being who they are. Hetrosexuals are far less likely to be victims of hate crimes. Think before you speak
@@cantthinkofaname3344 ………and could you please name where these rainbow trains will be running and where particularly along their routes any area where gay men are “killed for simply existing” ?? ……….when trains are painted like these and run in maybe Saudi Arabia or the likes then maybe you have a point ……but in the uk it’s just another virtue signalling campaign !
@@stupididiot369 If you had common sense, you'd realise that countries where homosexuality is illegal won't allow pride liveries. The UK sets an example, and the trains help to spread awareness of issues surrounding the LGBTQ community.
The video is very good, it hurts that they continue with the private, it would be good if it happens to be how it was British railways, I greet from Argentina
@@cantthinkofaname3344 The front Cars were half red with a yellow front and a gorgeous virgin logo with the iconic black and white doors, and how can that be a reason for people to not like it?
@@BuddyClubP1 a good 95% of the livery was just...plain grey. It was so awful, even the slight hints of red and legally required yellow did nothing to improve it.
Can you also make a sunset livery please it can be a photo of a ocean and the sun is going down on all carriages so the west coast will be a blue train or a rainforest you can make animals in rainforest and make the train green
Enjoy YourDay sad that it isn’t 100% positive.. IMO I actually think the all coach pride livery is the best that AWC can do since the actual Avanti livery would make it hard to pull of a pride livery that the other rail companies have done..
It may be getting a mixed reaction on Twitter, but it doesn't matter. Only one view counts. Any other view, question or observation is seen as homophobic.
If youre someone so offended by a trains paint job, because it represents lgbt. You need to reevaluate who the real snowflake is. Because the people offended most likely use that phrase unironically
Great looking if you ask me. I just have a problem that its a fully staffed LGBTQ train. Sexual orientation shouldn't be a factor in working on any train..........it should be purely down to an individual's ability.
I personally think its wrong to paint any public transportation to promote Any form of Sexuality or Political Statement . Not everyone who uses their trains approve of Promoting Homosexuality . Some people will find it offensive . Avanti should remain Neutral .. no Im not Homophobic
This beats the VT one by a long shot, AWC Your team did an amazing job on this, I mean is beautiful. I was wondering if you'd do one at all but even if it's a few months late I do not care, LGBTQ+ should be respected throughout time. Let's just hope it doesn't get vandalised. If it does I hope to god it gets cleaned. Brill job railcam and AWC
Do you feel they need one? Is there some injustice you feel that needs to be brought to light on thier behalf? What is the purpose/goal of your White Male and proud of it livery?
Nobody has said it isn't. There are, however, several dozen places in the world where being gay is a 'punishable offence'. Straight people are not being oppressed.
@Dan Didnot Of course pedophilia is fucking vile and should be stamped out no matter who the perpetrator is, but you cannot seriously be suggesting that this is proof of the 'oppression' of straight people - especially given how many heterosexual offenders there have been. The fact remains that in many countries people can still be killed simply for being gay, whereas straight people are not forbidden by law in any country. Nobody is saying that straight people don't experience any form of hardship at all, but they do not experience hardship just on the basis of them being straight alone.
Ah yes, forgetting of course that Manchester Pride was supposed to be this weekend and one of the charities involved in this project was the LGBT Foundation on Canal Street in Manchester. I would suggest also going onto the Avanti website and checking out why it was done for.
I think how they said LGBT crew members only is a bit crude since thats being homophobic to straight people, its like saying no irish people are allowed in this restaurant.
As tweeted by Avanti yesterday in a reply to someone tweeting them something very similar to this comment: "So the team working the first run of our Pride train yesterday morning were volunteers from our Frontline team representing our LGBTQ+ network. Moving forwards, journeys on this train will not solely be crewed by our LGBTQ+ community"
@@o.m.b.demolitionenterprise5398 Gotta laugh at some of the comment being done. Think he means, in the first instance, Hetrophobic and secondly, who would of thought a train livery which is bright and colourful could get so many triggered.
After reading more of the comments here I am coming to the view that there is a strong stench of homophobic bigotry among rail enthusiasts. How very depressing.
It is not homophobia or bigotry for a person who has deeply held religious beliefs to explain in a non judgemental and sensitive way what he or she believes and what their religion teaches about sexual matters. Those who expect others to respect their sexuality and sexual beliefs should show similar respect to those people who do not share their sexuality or point of view.
It is very depressing that people feel the need to use their completely made up religion that is based on absolutely nothing but fantasy to abuse people who are different from them. Sooner religion is a thing of the past the better for the world. Just remember that religion has caused the death of more people than smoking and road deaths added together You have to have a seriously warped mind if you think religion is a good thing.
@@timothycremer3585 You are indeed free to live and believe as you see fit but there is no need tot interfere in other peoples lives. Let them live like they see fit too as long as they do not harm anyone. If you can't do that you are suppressing them and that is wrong, period!
@@ronroelevink7097 I have not suggested any interference in other peoples lives in any way at all in my comment. Neither have I stated any religious affiliation or religious belief in my comment. I have commented about those people who do have deep religious convictions. In my comment I have spoken about showing mutual respect and understanding.
Square Peg Round Hole You’ve not given me any indication so far. If it’s the video, I can’t exactly see what’s wrong with it. If it’s the train itself, well it was built 20 years ago and this is the design Avanti have gone for. If it’s what it represents, then you honestly just need to accept it, as it’s the existence of people like you which is why Pride is still such an important event, as people around the world in all countries are still discriminated against based on nothing but their sexual orientation or gender identity.
A lot of comments to this video are being taken down...I wonder why
Because no one is allowed to criticise, shame.
Because hate speech and discrimination
@@welsh_Witch Freedom of speech mate
@@kyleJohn1997 human dignity > all, also it's a private platform, freedom of speech does not exist on these platforms
@@kyleJohn1997 and freedom of speech does not mean freedom from consequences
Its like watching a moving painting. i love it
I'll definitely be seeing that next time I'm on the WCML
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I managed to see that pride pendolino in that year and I was in luck to see it at Birmingham new street
At both points it powered through Watford I was stood on platform 7 waiting for my 09:15 set down to dispatch and I have to say it looks amazing, the bold colours really do pop in the sun.
I've seen her 4 times now. I love this livery.
Saw this roaring past me yesterday. Pretty looking thing.
wow that livery looks amazing , cant wait to see that soon , definitely be something to look out for
@Thomas Jepson I agree
this train has the most colorful and most beautiful train liveries of all time
can't change my mind
Guau! , que hermosa idea que un tren sea también una obra de arte, gracias.
If you’re happy and secure with your own sexuality, why would this bother you? I don’t get it. I’m not sure that an all LGBTQ crew is necessary for it. As someone here has already said, it should be purely based on ability, although I’m sure the entire crew is qualified.
As tweeted by Avanti yesterday in a reply to someone tweeting them something very similar to this comment:
"So the team working the first run of our Pride train yesterday morning were volunteers from our Frontline team representing our LGBTQ+ network. Moving forwards, journeys on this train will not solely be crewed by our LGBTQ+ community"
Some may roll their eyes and think "Isn't this a little exaggerated?". But as a gay man who has experienced discrimination and bullying when I grew up I can assure you that these wonderful gestures make a huge difference. Such moments give LGBT people and their straight allies the feeling of having WON the battle over bigotry. This feeling of "victory" is so encouraging and so important. I am also greatful that they didn't use an outdated, ugly old diesel train but Britain's only tilting high speed train, a wonder of modern engineering and a reason to be PROUD in its own right. 👍👍👍
Why does the GAY Community use the Rainbow as their Logo ?
It's a silly and over-the-top livery. It's ugly in my opinion.
It should do a regional tour, would love to see it on the WCML and Scotland.
Shame that the video maker couldn't spell Avanti correctly thus invalidating the copyright...
Does anyone know where this train is stored? Would love to see it in its natural habitat
This is definitely on my to watch for list and a worthy picture opportunity
I agree
A lovely livery (and great message) - though I do wonder when the rest of the fleet will actually be repainted in Avanti livery, last time I was at New Street some of them still had Virgin nameplates!
4:13 possibly one of the best shots ever
Yeah I agree with you
👌🏻
I've seen this awesome unit about 3 times now. I'd love to see it, at speed, with all of the bright, vibrant colours rushing past! Definitely represents two lovely communities!
Whens the Hetro livery due?
I presume you mean “Hetero”, in which case the 55 other Pendolinos in active service as well as the entirety of Avanti’s Voyager fleets aren’t in the Pride livery
It isn't because that doesn't need to be celebrated....
Not happening
What discrimination have you faced as a heterosexual?
Hetrosexuals do not face discrimination daily. They don't get murdered in over 70 countries for being who they are. Hetrosexuals are far less likely to be victims of hate crimes. Think before you speak
Gotta tick those Diversity, Equity and Inclusion (DEI) tick boxes to make sure they can keep the credit rolling in.
I have to say it does look really good. Very colourful and bright.
Can’t we have a train painted with ‘ straight men :-ensuring the continuation of the human race ‘
Ahahahahah no
If straight men were killed for simply existing, then yes. But they aren't, so no💜
@@cantthinkofaname3344 ………and could you please name where these rainbow trains will be running and where particularly along their routes any area where gay men are “killed for simply existing” ?? ……….when trains are painted like these and run in maybe Saudi Arabia or the likes then maybe you have a point ……but in the uk it’s just another virtue signalling campaign !
@@stupididiot369 If you had common sense, you'd realise that countries where homosexuality is illegal won't allow pride liveries. The UK sets an example, and the trains help to spread awareness of issues surrounding the LGBTQ community.
@@stupididiot369 also, ellipsis is 3 dots. Not the 10 that you use...
The video is very good, it hurts that they continue with the private, it would be good if it happens to be how it was British railways, I greet from Argentina
Hello, from North Wales, UK.
Brilliant I was on the pride pendolino up towards the lake district
Pendelino looked best in VT colours
What, grey and a tiny bit of red?
@@cantthinkofaname3344 The front Cars were half red with a yellow front and a gorgeous virgin logo with the iconic black and white doors, and how can that be a reason for people to not like it?
@@BuddyClubP1 yeah I know, great but simple unlike livery’s nowadays
@@BuddyClubP1 a good 95% of the livery was just...plain grey. It was so awful, even the slight hints of red and legally required yellow did nothing to improve it.
that 195 next to it.
Better than the regular Avanti colour scheme
No father figure
@@Railworksenthusiast says the one who hates gay people for no reason
I love this livery! It’s beautiful!
The wrapping that they use what do they call it please....
Vinyl?
@@cantthinkofaname3344 yeah vinyl
Can you also make a sunset livery please it can be a photo of a ocean and the sun is going down on all carriages so the west coast will be a blue train or a rainforest you can make animals in rainforest and make the train green
Looks brill credit to AVANTI wish others would do something similar.
this is getting a mixed reaction on Twitter
Enjoy YourDay sad that it isn’t 100% positive.. IMO I actually think the all coach pride livery is the best that AWC can do since the actual Avanti livery would make it hard to pull of a pride livery that the other rail companies have done..
It may be getting a mixed reaction on Twitter, but it doesn't matter. Only one view counts. Any other view, question or observation is seen as homophobic.
@@golddalekwho5944 yes, questioning the existence of LGBT ppl is anti-LGBT
@@golddalekwho5944 yeah, because hating on people for existing is homophobic
it like I'm watching a movie here than a youtube video
I love the new livery
a world tour with that set would look awesome
If youre someone so offended by a trains paint job, because it represents lgbt. You need to reevaluate who the real snowflake is. Because the people offended most likely use that phrase unironically
W
I see it at after school clubs bc my school is next to the train line
This train was stuck at crewe yesterday
Great looking if you ask me. I just have a problem that its a fully staffed LGBTQ train. Sexual orientation shouldn't be a factor in working on any train..........it should be purely down to an individual's ability.
It was a one off event, under normal circumstances this would’ve been part of Manchester’s Pride celebrations.
So you think a fully staffed straighs crew train shouldn't be allowed? Bold take.
4:16. Which is a nicer livery. Like Pride. Comment Avanti West Coast.
Looks really nice!
I personally think its wrong to paint any public transportation to promote Any form of Sexuality or Political Statement . Not everyone who uses their trains approve of Promoting Homosexuality . Some people will find it offensive . Avanti should remain Neutral .. no Im not Homophobic
I went on this train once, From MKC To London Euston, but i didnt get to sit down :( It was to crowded
It would be nice to see one dressed up in red,white and blue with the union flag on it,although it may be considered far too offensive.
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@@RunawayTrain2502 technically preserved? Would like to see Avanti being patriotic.
They had during VT era
@@Austin40424 they had one when it was VT
Dont see how it's just a flag
Once thing avanti can do right are liveries
Very impressive and well done and a great video🌈👍😊
This beats the VT one by a long shot, AWC Your team did an amazing job on this, I mean is beautiful. I was wondering if you'd do one at all but even if it's a few months late I do not care, LGBTQ+ should be respected throughout time. Let's just hope it doesn't get vandalised. If it does I hope to god it gets cleaned. Brill job railcam and AWC
The Class 91 are the ones that have decent paintjobs, For the Fallen, BBMF, Flying Scotsman and Durham Cathedral
@@kyleJohn1997 I guess, but with them you only get the loco and DVT. With this, you get variation along the entire train.
Great to see it, looks brilliant. Good to see representation of our community in the transporting community!
Amazing 🏳️🌈
I bet they wouldn't do one saying White Male and proud of it.
Do you feel they need one? Is there some injustice you feel that needs to be brought to light on thier behalf? What is the purpose/goal of your White Male and proud of it livery?
Grow up
Can't even enjoy watching trains without being bombarded with this cult
Less go avanti!!!!❤❤☁️
Its okay to be straight.
No one is saying it isnt
Nobody has said it isn't. There are, however, several dozen places in the world where being gay is a 'punishable offence'. Straight people are not being oppressed.
@@tomwatts703 Oh yes they are.
@@suffolkpompey last time I checked straight people have never been killed for being straight.
@Dan Didnot Of course pedophilia is fucking vile and should be stamped out no matter who the perpetrator is, but you cannot seriously be suggesting that this is proof of the 'oppression' of straight people - especially given how many heterosexual offenders there have been. The fact remains that in many countries people can still be killed simply for being gay, whereas straight people are not forbidden by law in any country. Nobody is saying that straight people don't experience any form of hardship at all, but they do not experience hardship just on the basis of them being straight alone.
More trains need to be coloured this way. They look beautiful
So PrOgReSsIvE !!!
Yes, it is.
say it loud say it proud, gay people are going nowhere
The entire lgbtq+ community isn't going anywhere.
That livery reminds me of skittles. In that case I’m calling this the skittles train
It's OK if it stays this colour but if it's only for a month it's a waste of money and resources.
Should be for a good few years
This is a permanent stay of the AWC fleet
Even now it's stuck around, which I like
great livery well done :D
I had to turn the sound off!
I really want to go no this pride Avanti West coast ❤😊❤
Lol 2 months late...
Not joking it looks like someone swallowed paint and then was sick all over this pendo...
Ah yes, forgetting of course that Manchester Pride was supposed to be this weekend and one of the charities involved in this project was the LGBT Foundation on Canal Street in Manchester. I would suggest also going onto the Avanti website and checking out why it was done for.
And just imagine what would happen if there were a train with only heterosexual stuff.
You wouldn't notice becasue most of them already are?
Most of them are.... and that's the problem
You mean everything in existence for hundreds of years?
Well. You can see that coming from a mile away..nice.
I think how they said LGBT crew members only is a bit crude since thats being homophobic to straight people, its like saying no irish people are allowed in this restaurant.
As tweeted by Avanti yesterday in a reply to someone tweeting them something very similar to this comment:
"So the team working the first run of our Pride train yesterday morning were volunteers from our Frontline team representing our LGBTQ+ network. Moving forwards, journeys on this train will not solely be crewed by our LGBTQ+ community"
“*homophobic to straight people*” lmfao
@@o.m.b.demolitionenterprise5398 Gotta laugh at some of the comment being done. Think he means, in the first instance, Hetrophobic and secondly, who would of thought a train livery which is bright and colourful could get so many triggered.
Danny Inchley ikr lol
Homophobic to straight people?? I...What???
Absolutely fabulous
nice
Rubbish
@@terrier_productions oh no
Rubbish.
@@oldtuberig as I said rubbish
sam harv ?
Yes, your one worded comment is a bit, isn't it.
After reading more of the comments here I am coming to the view that there is a strong stench of homophobic bigotry among rail enthusiasts. How very depressing.
It is not homophobia or bigotry for a person who has deeply held religious beliefs to explain in a non judgemental and sensitive way what he or she believes and what their religion teaches about sexual matters. Those who expect others to respect their sexuality and sexual beliefs should show similar respect to those people who do not share their sexuality or point of view.
Timothy Cremer . Unfortunately most of the comments are neither non judgemental or respectful!
It is very depressing that people feel the need to use their completely made up religion that is based on absolutely nothing but fantasy to abuse people who are different from them. Sooner religion is a thing of the past the better for the world. Just remember that religion has caused the death of more people than smoking and road deaths added together
You have to have a seriously warped mind if you think religion is a good thing.
@@timothycremer3585 You are indeed free to live and believe as you see fit but there is no need tot interfere in other peoples lives. Let them live like they see fit too as long as they do not harm anyone. If you can't do that you are suppressing them and that is wrong, period!
@@ronroelevink7097 I have not suggested any interference in other peoples lives in any way at all in my comment. Neither have I stated any religious affiliation or religious belief in my comment. I have commented about those people who do have deep religious convictions. In my comment I have spoken about showing mutual respect and understanding.
To make it fully gay other trains should ride inside, instead of humans.
This comment does not make any sense
🤮
Care to expand? Cus just an emoji really is not helpful...
@@georgedowns4034 It suits me fine 😊
Grow up
It is stunning but seems like a complete waste of money. The fares will go up soon to pay for it. Overall a thumbs down.
there's no need for that...
Why are they making trains gay
because it's 2020
Why not
Because to show love to LGBTQ
Train*
@@trainlover11playzgoodbyetr4 is that squadfam4000s long lost brother squidfim2000
Ah Yes, forced diveristy.
Hardly forced, mate
@@cantthinkofaname3344 Well when the quota is that only alphabet people can staff it, it is very much forced.
@@TheOnlyTYRE 1 journey. to a pride parade.
It's not forced diversity, people just exist. Grow up.
@@ConfusedOxygen bro i wrote this more then year ago.
It's politically correct, but sloppy looking.
Looks fabulous
Hideous, looks a childs' colouring book.
Liar...
@@georgedowns4034 ????
FFS!!!!! Stop this utter crap now!
What “crap”?
Alasdair Clift This CRAP!!!!
Square Peg Round Hole That’s not exactly helpful. Is the video itself crap, or the train, or what it represents?
Alasdair Clift What do you think? FFS!!
Square Peg Round Hole You’ve not given me any indication so far. If it’s the video, I can’t exactly see what’s wrong with it. If it’s the train itself, well it was built 20 years ago and this is the design Avanti have gone for. If it’s what it represents, then you honestly just need to accept it, as it’s the existence of people like you which is why Pride is still such an important event, as people around the world in all countries are still discriminated against based on nothing but their sexual orientation or gender identity.
Gays community getting bigger, so sad
Why sad?
2020 Let's paint every single train in LGBTQ colours
Good idea, I can get behind this.
Yes I will take any excuse to get more colourful pendolinos.
@@cantthinkofaname3344 Oh sorry I was being sarcastic when I said that
@@kyleJohn1997 I wasn't
@@cantthinkofaname3344 I only care for the ones that are dedicated to those that fought for our country, like 91110, 91111, Harry Patch HST etc
Disgust at the mere thought!
A train livery disgusts you? My, aren't we triggered.
Some people are very insecure, funny that...
Guess what. The world is getting gayer and gayer and theres nothing you can do to stop us
gay 🏳️🌈 train 🏳️🌈🏳️🌈🚆
Snowflake “waaa rainbows scare me”
I hate this livery
Why?
@@ChineseJohnCena it is rubish and i dont like lgbt.
@@Railworksenthusiast Why?
@@RailworksenthusiastWhy?