Sounds to me like this is a shot at Joner Football. Just calling it for what it is. Anyways, I'll give my 2 cents on this topic. IMO a player only gets better with repetition. If we ran a similar drill like you mentioned and we told the defender a laundry list of things to do, then told the passer to check over their shoulder (possibly the first time they've ever even heard of doing this), then told them to check for the laundry list of things that you mentioned (which you are 100% right), they would be LOST back at the words, "OK here is the next drill". My point is it takes years to become somewhat good at doing a bounce pass and scanning. The point of this drill is repitition, just like numerous other drills that we do. This is to just become used to scanning and doing a bounce pass if there is pressure or whatever. Once again, if I ran the drill you mentioned with my U12 players, there isn't a chance in hell any of them would get it, and yea that's probably because I am a novice coach. But this bounce pass/scanning drill is just the 1st step in MANY steps. Once a player is comfortable with this, we will then progress to deciding if there is pressure and if so, creating a different angle. I just can't throw all of that at a 10yr old at once. Not any of the hundred I have coached anyways. I have NEVER disagreed with anything you have said or made. I truly feel like this is just a shot at Joner Football and a bad one at that. I think there is a ton of benefit in doing this drill. Especially if you compare this to something like making the kids wait in a line while the coach passes to them one by one to take shots. The one thing that could make this drill better is having another player take the position of the coach. That way they are both getting better. But hey, at the end of the day your the professional, so I don't know wth I am talking about! Just my 2 cents and its probably not even worth that. Regardless, love your content, keep it up but imo just focus on you and not other RUclipsrs in your lane. You are killing it!
Hi mate, thank you for the comment and feedback. This absolutely isn’t taking shots at anyone. Lee Joner is a fantastic coach and a great innovator. He’s one of the most followed soccer coaches on RUclips and deserves his audience. The problem is, coaches watch 3-4 minutes of his videos and then copy a little part of it without understanding the complexities, the progressions and the key coaching points. The danger of that is building bad habits, making players think that playing in midfield is simply scanning and bouncing a ball back where it came from and neglecting so many parts of the game they need to understand. Yes Joner may have popularised these style of drills, but there are now hundreds of videos out there of coaches poorly replicating these drills. Copying the concept without taking the time or effort to learn the nuances of such a practice. I totally agree that it’s a building block, it’s a fundamental and all players have to start somewhere. But I’ve also seen this same style of drill interpreted in some really poor ways or just lazily thrown into a session like it’s a masterclass on passing. Bouncing a ball back where it came from is probably the least common direction a player will play it. So my point is that it should develop to be so much more than this. Yes it may take time as you said, but when it comes to coaching passing, this technical (high reps) practice is just a varied small part of all the ways a player will be required to pass a ball. This video wasn’t Intended to offend or bad mouth anyone, but was a warning to coaches not to fall into the trap of thinking this is what all passing drills should look like. I’ve seen parents pay upwards of £60 per hour and coaches then use a practice like this with an iPad for 35-40 minutes 😤
Couldn’t agree more, another thing as well with this style of drill. It means the player on the ball (receiving the pass) they are 1) not playing on the half turn and 2) not looking for a progressive pass. They are so focused and in the habit of playing it straight back from where they came from to avoid pressure as oppose to confront it and look for a progressive pass. I always try and avoid coaching this drill as it increases the level of fear to lose the ball. Players should be afraid to be progressive and potentially make a mistake.
Well explained! Progressive passes should be a huge part of developing young players and this regressive style of pass probably doesn’t help players be adventurous or exciting with the ball.
This drill I do sometimes use with very young players in small quantity’s to get them learning to receive the ball on their instep (also getting their body inline with the pass) this I feel helps their motor skills for when work on taking the ball on the half turn with the defender behind (I progression in do add in). The amount of kids I see that are receiving the ball on top or outside of the foot and more often than not it bounces away because they are not coached the basic correct technique.
Absolutely, it’s important to build these basics at a young age… however coaches still run these style of drills with advanced players and older players. Keep up the good work bro! 👊🏻
Loving the content. What would your suggested drills be to promote scanning and awareness in younger players?
love your videos catalan ben, thanks for helping a novice coach - where's the link in these videos?
ruclips.net/video/IfS44FS02fg/видео.html give this a watch mate! Thanks for the feedback!
Can you do a video that you think would be better than that drill then please.👍
Sounds to me like this is a shot at Joner Football. Just calling it for what it is. Anyways, I'll give my 2 cents on this topic.
IMO a player only gets better with repetition. If we ran a similar drill like you mentioned and we told the defender a laundry list of things to do, then told the passer to check over their shoulder (possibly the first time they've ever even heard of doing this), then told them to check for the laundry list of things that you mentioned (which you are 100% right), they would be LOST back at the words, "OK here is the next drill".
My point is it takes years to become somewhat good at doing a bounce pass and scanning. The point of this drill is repitition, just like numerous other drills that we do. This is to just become used to scanning and doing a bounce pass if there is pressure or whatever.
Once again, if I ran the drill you mentioned with my U12 players, there isn't a chance in hell any of them would get it, and yea that's probably because I am a novice coach. But this bounce pass/scanning drill is just the 1st step in MANY steps. Once a player is comfortable with this, we will then progress to deciding if there is pressure and if so, creating a different angle. I just can't throw all of that at a 10yr old at once. Not any of the hundred I have coached anyways.
I have NEVER disagreed with anything you have said or made. I truly feel like this is just a shot at Joner Football and a bad one at that. I think there is a ton of benefit in doing this drill. Especially if you compare this to something like making the kids wait in a line while the coach passes to them one by one to take shots. The one thing that could make this drill better is having another player take the position of the coach. That way they are both getting better.
But hey, at the end of the day your the professional, so I don't know wth I am talking about! Just my 2 cents and its probably not even worth that. Regardless, love your content, keep it up but imo just focus on you and not other RUclipsrs in your lane. You are killing it!
Hi mate, thank you for the comment and feedback.
This absolutely isn’t taking shots at anyone. Lee Joner is a fantastic coach and a great innovator. He’s one of the most followed soccer coaches on RUclips and deserves his audience.
The problem is, coaches watch 3-4 minutes of his videos and then copy a little part of it without understanding the complexities, the progressions and the key coaching points.
The danger of that is building bad habits, making players think that playing in midfield is simply scanning and bouncing a ball back where it came from and neglecting so many parts of the game they need to understand. Yes Joner may have popularised these style of drills, but there are now hundreds of videos out there of coaches poorly replicating these drills. Copying the concept without taking the time or effort to learn the nuances of such a practice.
I totally agree that it’s a building block, it’s a fundamental and all players have to start somewhere. But I’ve also seen this same style of drill interpreted in some really poor ways or just lazily thrown into a session like it’s a masterclass on passing. Bouncing a ball back where it came from is probably the least common direction a player will play it. So my point is that it should develop to be so much more than this. Yes it may take time as you said, but when it comes to coaching passing, this technical (high reps) practice is just a varied small part of all the ways a player will be required to pass a ball.
This video wasn’t Intended to offend or bad mouth anyone, but was a warning to coaches not to fall into the trap of thinking this is what all passing drills should look like. I’ve seen parents pay upwards of £60 per hour and coaches then use a practice like this with an iPad for 35-40 minutes 😤
Couldn’t agree more, another thing as well with this style of drill. It means the player on the ball (receiving the pass) they are 1) not playing on the half turn and 2) not looking for a progressive pass. They are so focused and in the habit of playing it straight back from where they came from to avoid pressure as oppose to confront it and look for a progressive pass.
I always try and avoid coaching this drill as it increases the level of fear to lose the ball. Players should be afraid to be progressive and potentially make a mistake.
Well explained! Progressive passes should be a huge part of developing young players and this regressive style of pass probably doesn’t help players be adventurous or exciting with the ball.
This drill I do sometimes use with very young players in small quantity’s to get them learning to receive the ball on their instep (also getting their body inline with the pass) this I feel helps their motor skills for when work on taking the ball on the half turn with the defender behind (I progression in do add in). The amount of kids I see that are receiving the ball on top or outside of the foot and more often than not it bounces away because they are not coached the basic correct technique.
Absolutely, it’s important to build these basics at a young age… however coaches still run these style of drills with advanced players and older players. Keep up the good work bro! 👊🏻
Americans can’t “develop” players due to pay to play
😂😂 a joke