kingllama001 now that I think about it, once you help Emil regain his memories, I would of liked him to have some sort of interaction with popola and devola,
if u think about it .... it is what happening right now to us moslims ... black men ... white men ...etc if anyone do something wrong u will be punished even if u didn`t anything
Well, that doesn't concern me, I am handicapped, I have got a special favour I can say everything I want and still remain untouchable \o/ (That was a joke ofc, I don't use my handicap as an excuse to say bad things. But that's pretty much how it works right now, sadly) But wait, we were talking about NieR, when did it go wrong ? lel
Trainer Red lol i dont think that what happen in nier is just nothing many times i think it is connected to us in many different ways if u think about it ~_~
In my opinion, robots in Automata are the "social" part of humanity, trying to build communities, maybe failing, but still keep on going with new concepts such as monarchy, religion, etc... And androids are the "emotional" part of humanity (mourning, regrets, hate, but also love, compassion, etc...) That's how it feels to me at least.
@@AB-jt4rs Hmmm yes you are? The guy literally said A2 was the one to say it and you're like "uhhh i thought it was a2 who asked that". Reading comprehension skipped the bus
"You know, I understand now why we're twins. It's because....because we were born without souls. This world is too lonely for one without a soul. There's too much...emptiness. Our souls are missing, but our tears still work. That's kinda weird. Sorry, Sis. ...I love you." ;_;
Or because of the bullsh#t disease created by Yoko Taro...Or Because there are only 2 of them (how convenient) and without monitoring from other androids, Of course they got corrupted and fuck shit up.
Correction : The blame lies with the Devola and Popola model in charge if Nier's Region, not particularly the twins in Automata. These two did nothing wrong, but was reprogrammed to feel guilt and was constantly persecuted by other androids.
I always really liked Devola and Popola in Automata. It made me sad to see how things turned out for them, and reading their backstory notes in game reinforced that
The worst part is that it's not entirely the Nier 1 Devola and Popola models fault, the Original Nier had waited over a thousand years to bring his daughter back and couldn't wait any longer so he stole his daughter's replicant body and didn't count on his own replicant caring about his daughter as much as Original Nier cared about his, leading to Replicant Nier unknowingly destroying the human race to get her back. It's not like Devola and Popola could stop original Nier at that point because if they killed him the entire operation would be pointless and it's not like he would be willing to listen to reason after a thousand years of waiting.
I hope you don't mind being brought back to your comment of over a year ago, but I need to say: It seemed to me like they were just helping Replicant Nier until he was really ready to kill his own Gestalt... and their help never really made sense to me, it just sounds counterintuitive
@@Ndasuunye oh hi. I haven't said anything about guilt regarding what Devola and Popola did or failed to do, maybe you meant to tag the OP instead of me? Well, either way, my doubt stays the same: I don't understand why Devola and Popola helped Replicant Nier until it was too late for them to stop him, knowing he'd kill Gestalt Nier and ruin the entire project by doing so. Why would they help him then turn against him near the end? Regarding your comment, sure, the "original" Devola and Popola are guilty of not finding the best way to solve the problems they had been facing for a long time, but did they really have what was needed to fix things anyway? The project, Nier's struggles, all that. Near the end of the game it's implied that things had turned into a mess long ago in ways they couldn't fix even if someone else tried to help. And even so, there were many Devolas and Popolas, the 2 in Automata are not the same as the other 2 in the previous game, so do the current ones really have to suffer in their stead after all this time has passed? Because it doesn't seem like they're being punished for their own actions (haven't played Automata, can't say much from my perspective), thus it sounds pretty unfair
Something that a lot of people over look is that Devola and Popola were becoming attached to Nier’s Replicant. In fact, before the first battle they ask you to return to the village and during that battle they said they wanted to wait another 100 years. The reason they wanted to wait was to let Nier’s Replicant live his life, die, and then use the blank Replicant to give to the Shadowlord. What they didn’t count on was Nier’s gestalt growing impatient and losing faith in them doing their job. The reason they help Nier’s Replicant get to the castle is because Nier’s gestalt locked them out as well. They were in the same position as Nier’s Replicant was. So they helped him get in, but once he wouldn’t stop on his quest to save his sister/daughter they had to stop him even if they had grown an attachment because they’re first priority was to save humanity even if they grew attached to Nier’s Replicant. It’s really tragic, because Nier’s gestalt set everything in motion. If he hadn’t stolen Yonah Nier’s Replicant would of spent his life trying to help her not be sick until his eventual death…he’d never have had a complete hatred for shadows for stealing Yonah and he wouldn’t have tried to kill the Shadowlord at all.
Devola and Popola are my favorite characters from this series. They've been burdened with carrying the weight of separate models, and are forced to show compassion to those who wish they basically never existed.
*at the camp* Devola (to 9S): ''A little thank-you for saving your butt would be nice!'' Well, aren't you a rude little girl. *a few hours later* Devola (to 9S): ''I hope you... don't regret this...'' :(
Me: I wish I could just watch a NieR Automata Summary video than just watching a Let's Play. [Few days later Sophie uploads a NieR Automata Summary video] Me: Oh wow who's this Emil guy, he seems very interesting. [Few days later Sophie uploads a Emil video] Me: Devola & Popola were in the original NieR? I want to know more! [Few days later Sophie uploads a Devola & Popola video] Me: wtf
SPOILERS Project Yorha was started by the Devola and Popola we meet in game (before they were reprogrammed/reset), plus some other androids. The Yorha Project document has a list of all the steps and at least the first one is what Devola and Popola did. They also said they were gonna try their best to fix things, it's part of their program to ensure humanity's "survival". Even with a lie, so they don't lose their reason to exist. Together with their memories the picture is more clear. Still, we don't know who continued the project (other than the Pods) after D&P were reprogrammed. Now it's time for some speculations: I believe that just like humans left Project Gestalt to the androids, D&P left Project Yorha to the Pods. I'm 99% sure the Pods were created by D&P since they use maso energy for the "skills" EDIT: We now know that the project was started by an android named Zinnia. Devola and Popola still helped (unknowingly) with the subsequent step but didn't come up with the idea themselves. The whole project was totally automated, similarly to the Patriots of MGS
No, they were just amongst the first androids created by mankind many thousands of years before Automata. Yorha No1 was the commander of the experimental Yorha during the Pearl Harbor Descent Mission, who died before landing and command passed to No2 (A2)
No the first No1 is mentioned in the Yorha stage play. But right at the beginning of Automata, before taking control of 2B the commander is 1D, another model 1
Did anyone else.... go back home and visit the bar or fountain, just to hear the girls sing? I'd stop playing altogether, and just listen to their song.....
*Spoiler altert* They're pretty much seen lying down with their eyes closed, I assumed that (and the context) confirmed their death but maybe I'm wrong. Yoko Taro said the game has a happy ending. Well, surprisingly, he wasn't quite trolling! Ending E is relatively happy... by Drakengard/NieR standards anyway...
Yes they're dead, if you actually search for the script 5 ending, "Farewell" the VA of 2B will say that Devola and Popola couldn't make it, so they died.
Happy ending that makes me sad for like a whole week XD I really wished Popola, Devola, the Commander of the bunker, operator 210 and the machines in Pascal's village would have survived.
Thanks for this. I knew Devola and Polola's story from Route C Nier automata. I always felt for them. They shouldered the blame for something you couldn't blame them for. There are a lot of times Nier Automata's androids and machine life forms mirror Humanity. Tragically, They don't have anyone to tell them where they verge off into those darker, best kept buried aspects. We're cruel to our children; we makes demands they carry out without question, by leaving them no lee-way. They keep making the same mistakes we do.
Taro will very likely work on a different project all together now. Automata is the best game in the DrakenG/Nier series. Yoko is pleased with the way things have manifested.
I think the original NieR was considerably better (ignoring game-play) but either way I think he'll probably either do a game between Drakengard and the NieR prologue or branch off from another Drakengard timeline since some things like the black flower weren't fully explained.
Events from Drakengard ending E to beginning of NieR is basically fully explained in Gestalt Records and the Drag-on Dragoon World Inside book. Look up the timeline from drakengard through Nier, the events are almost fully explained. A game medium would not work for the events of 2003-Nier.
It's likely that something after Automata is going to happen as a sequal mostly because of Accord. Considering Accord is more likely a being in the further future, even After Automata, I'm guessing Yoko Taro has a whole timeline written in his secret note.
What the fuck is a game that "excluding gameplay" ? Lol, Nier: Automata is the game Yoko Taro deserve, stop the fucking bias and elitism about the "cult classic", Nier: Automata surpass Nier and that's a fact.
Oh Valkyrie I love all of your Nier videos so much. Personally I only played through the Automata and don’t have the patience to play the Drakengards or Nier original game, but I am so attracted by the stories behind Automata. Thanks for making all these great contents about Nier and explaining things clearly with your magnetically sexy voice. Sincerely.
thank you for taking the time to explain all of these nier storylines so well. ive only just finished automata and never played the others, automata itself was a tear jerker...but now i feel for all of these characters so much more...
Devola & Popola's story is so sad once you finally get their full background and ending. I wonder if A2's final words would have even helped them because of the programmed guilt?
Oh look at you! With a fancy all new intro... how professional! Nice video, well explained. I wouldn't know half the things i know by now without your videos, thanks! :3
I liked the intro! Thanks for delving into Devola and Popola's story, I haven't been able to play the original Nier yet and I was really captured by those two so it was great to hear the full of extent of their models story. I love your pacing in videos and how you talk about each subject, keep it up! ^-^
It makes SO much sense now! I was wondering why Humanity had fallen after Project Geshtalt. So Nier Automata is the result of the Nier D ending! Man Yoko Taro is brilliant in this fashion. He literally comes up with different games based on branching endings of the video games he makes, he's weaving quite a universe for himself.
I'm very glad you keep making these videos as your first lore summary gave me an obsession with Drakengard/Nier lore, but there are still a whole bunch of puzzle pieces missing.
Since I haven't played none of the NieR games, but learned about its lore from you, now everytime I see 2b walking animation, I hear your voice as well, pretty w e i r d. It is a compliment, nonetheless Great video! Also, the detail of smoothly changing accent when you pronnounce some non-english words is very nice (Yo-ko Ta-ro)
i just finish Nier Automata for the fourth time and for every time a play this game i feel. Amm it just like i full in love in this game. what is i try to say is that you are doing a great job explaining the story of the game and also the characters. good jop- keep going-and-thank you .
After playing Replicant, it makes much more sense and yet I can't really blame any of them. They couldn't have known that the original Nier, the Shadowlord, would abort the plan and run off to kidnap Nier Replicant's sister, after waiting a thousand years to save his own. The pieces were then set in motion and they did their best to prevent Replicant Nier from killing the Shadowlord, but they weren't able to and do humanity was doomed.
I know this is an older video of yours, but since you did Emil and Devola and Popola I just wanted to mention that I would die a little (of happiness) if you did Kainé. :D You have a really soothing voice, I could listen to you talk about Nier and other games all day
For whatever reason, Devola and Popola are my favorite characters in the NieR series. Their story has always resonated with me, and Eden Riegel does a fantastic job with their voices. Their boss fight in the original NieR is one of my favorite moments in any game.
Thank you so much for taking the time to make these videos! I never played Drakengard or the original Nier and don't have the means to even I wanted to. Without these videos, some of the stuff in Automata would've gone right over my head and many questions left unanswered. Plus, a voice one could fall in love with doesn't hurt either. :') Just finished ending E and nearly all the side-content today and I'm just left with this huge void now. Q_Q This unit has lost its purpose. Mental state deteriorating. Questioning reasons of further existence.
Yeah that helped a lot. I read the files but might have not interpreted it properly cuz I only played it once & wanted to get back to the action. The only thing that was really hammered in was their immense guilt for failing the humans. Thanks, Soph
I swear there's a line of txt somewhere late on in the game (maybe in the tower?) that says that Devola & Popola have had their memories altered to both alleviate their guilt as well as allow them to more easily bare the persecution they suffer. This suggested to me that maybe there weren't multiple models of them as they tell you but they are in fact the original two whom made the mistake (somehow surviving their destruction) that resulted in the collapse of the project. Of course i may be misinterpreting what i had read, or misremembering it now, but it did make me wonder and made their story seem all the more tragic to me.
Michael Clitheroe Yes I remember thinking the same thing the first time I saw it although at that time I had no idea that over 1500 years passed between Nier and Automata. I think that conversation you are talking about occurred when Devola and Popola heal 9S for the first time.
Wow!!!! That was a slight spoiler, since I'm on the 9s playthrough but i dont mind. This was really insightful😊 I cant wait for these moments and the A2 moments
Can I tell you? You have a voice that makes me fall asleep that's in the best way I can think of, it's incredibly soothing to hear your voice. Like someone very kind is speaking sorry if that sounds insulting in some way
good beging theme and edition for your videos...I love how you narrate your videos. Your voice so deep and pleasant...not in bad way. I really love the game and more with your explanation.
it's just so sad that there is not more of Devola and Popola in Automata. they are super interesthing and complete caracters like you just whant to know more and more. And as always Great Video :D
I believe in the world guide for Nier Automata, there is a line that goes something like 'the two twine units didn't return, but aren't you somewhat glad' not exactly accurate but the point was it implied that Devola and Popola did die at the base of the tower.
In the art book that came in the black box edition, there's a quote from one of the resistance camp androids that says that they're happy that the red-haired twins never came back. So they more than likely died, or went elsewhere.
Thank you for this video. It really gave the twins a lot more character than I had gathered in my play through of Automata. You're voice is great for your explanation style of videos, though my only tip would be to try to add a bit more of a pause at the end of your sentences, since the end and beginning of your sentences can sound like they're running too closely together. Thanks for your content though.
Lv5SuperTuba probably not tbh the other twin went beser after devola got killed in the original imguessing thats an androud protocol then. They were built as twin units. Anythinf thay happens to the other will br reported and thus reactive to the other. Idk its a very human reaction tbh. Im a twin and i lost my other twin a fewyears ago. It hasnt been really intrusive to my mental status until recently. The empty spot the spot that made you "unique" to the others anywaayds yea i hope theyvhave more dlc exploring more nier connections
hey idk if you noticed but i just did that in nier automata once you get the weapon shop flyer Accord is mentioned! it's pretty cool that they do actually state that she exists here you can google the flyer!
Basically. Nier waited a thousand years before bringing his daughter back to life. What a poor choice that was. If he would've acted sooner...humanity would've been more prepared for the alien invasion. Now look at where we are...2B is dead, 9S went crazy, humanity is extinct, wow. It all falls into Nier's poor choices. Yet, it also falls on the humanity too. We created some pretty messed up things. Crazy. Confusing. Yet it all comes together into one big story......amazing.
I felt so f*cking bad at that last line from them. Utterly preferred the "left to interpretation" message rather than seeing them legit dead out there. I don't know what I'd've done if they died. I grew to like them so much :'(
This was lovely. Thank you for this. Though in regards to the twins fate once you enter the tower, I noticed that if I came back out neither of them are moving. I know they are androids lol they don't need to breathe. But still this felt as if they both passed away when you are in the elevator. Sad end for a painful story.
as usual great video, I hope that sooner or later you can make more in depth videos from the Drakengard games including the second one haha. Keep up the great work, we appreciate it :)
I feel pretty bad for them now because when I first met them I assumed they would've been back as the bad guys considering, that the female voice from the tower was odly close to their voices and until the helped us I really expected them to fight us
I'm still confused on how the tower sprung up in the first place out of nowhere. And what does the Ending in 'E' spell out for A2, 2B & 9S for the future. Hopefully they're somewhere out there alive & fishing with Anemone or something.
Thanks for this. It made me understand the twins better. Since i don't own a PS3 i haven't played nier, even though drakengard 1 and specially Autómata are some of my Favorite games.
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" A2 reassures her that she was able to help" as Emil zooms around blasting his music ruining the moment
Keep up the good work onthe videos!
kingllama001 now that I think about it, once you help Emil regain his memories, I would of liked him to have some sort of interaction with popola and devola,
Not likely, since popola and devola were responsible for emil's "death".
Emil also zoomed past the resistance camp right when A2 spared Pascal's life. "DO DO DOOOOOO!"
DOOOOOO DOO DOOOOOOO
happened to me too, I spared Pascal and just instantly saw Emil make a jump with his car over Pascal and I was like: "What the..."
7:06 : in an attempt to atone for their sins that aren't even theirs ;'(
if u think about it .... it is what happening right now to us
moslims ... black men ... white men ...etc
if anyone do something wrong u will be punished even if u didn`t anything
Well, that doesn't concern me, I am handicapped, I have got a special favour I can say everything I want and still remain untouchable \o/
(That was a joke ofc, I don't use my handicap as an excuse to say bad things. But that's pretty much how it works right now, sadly)
But wait, we were talking about NieR, when did it go wrong ? lel
Trainer Red lol
i dont think that what happen in nier is just nothing
many times i think it is connected to us in many different ways if u think about it ~_~
In my opinion, robots in Automata are the "social" part of humanity, trying to build communities, maybe failing, but still keep on going with new concepts such as monarchy, religion, etc...
And androids are the "emotional" part of humanity (mourning, regrets, hate, but also love, compassion, etc...)
That's how it feels to me at least.
Yep as i told u it is not nothing
It is reality
That moment, when A2 asked if she had been helpful, I just wanted to hug her and tell her "It's fine, you did well. It's fine..."
Umm... am I missing something?
I am pretty pretty sure that A2 want the one who asked that
@@AB-jt4rs Hmmm yes you are? The guy literally said A2 was the one to say it and you're like "uhhh i thought it was a2 who asked that". Reading comprehension skipped the bus
It was Devola who asked A2 if Devola&Popola had been helpful. But I'm sure the original comment just had a typo
This comment thread is full of typos and misunderstandings LMAO
@@tatsunithelennyking2540i think he meant A2 "wasnt" the one who asked that
"You know, I understand now why we're twins. It's because....because we were born without souls. This world is too lonely for one without a soul. There's too much...emptiness. Our souls are missing, but our tears still work. That's kinda weird. Sorry, Sis. ...I love you."
;_;
They did nothing wrong... They did nothing wrong.
Actually they did. Because of them humanity was extinguished because of them and Nier.
Or because of the bullsh#t disease created by Yoko Taro...Or Because there are only 2 of them (how convenient) and without monitoring from other androids, Of course they got corrupted and fuck shit up.
+M. Pianus
other androids blame twins for what others (of the same model) have done.
Correction : The blame lies with the Devola and Popola model in charge if Nier's Region, not particularly the twins in Automata. These two did nothing wrong, but was reprogrammed to feel guilt and was constantly persecuted by other androids.
it is the same as what happening to us
.if someone did something wrong and he is from ur region .... u did something wrong too !
One of my favorite stories in this series!
The Sphere Hunter a rare Sue Lightning has appeared!
The Sphere Hunter hey I watch your videos all the time lol
I am a simple man. I see Devola & Popola I like and then cry like a bitch immediately after
iamhuman1 I'm even a simpler man and when I see Devola & Popola I do a r34 search
@@NapoleChan Wtf
@@NapoleChan lmao
Mood
I always really liked Devola and Popola in Automata. It made me sad to see how things turned out for them, and reading their backstory notes in game reinforced that
The worst part is that it's not entirely the Nier 1 Devola and Popola models fault, the Original Nier had waited over a thousand years to bring his daughter back and couldn't wait any longer so he stole his daughter's replicant body and didn't count on his own replicant caring about his daughter as much as Original Nier cared about his, leading to Replicant Nier unknowingly destroying the human race to get her back. It's not like Devola and Popola could stop original Nier at that point because if they killed him the entire operation would be pointless and it's not like he would be willing to listen to reason after a thousand years of waiting.
truely a duel to see who is the "daddiest dad"
I hope you don't mind being brought back to your comment of over a year ago, but I need to say:
It seemed to me like they were just helping Replicant Nier until he was really ready to kill his own Gestalt... and their help never really made sense to me, it just sounds counterintuitive
@@ruxbon standing by and watching while doing nothing is the same as being guilty. Their at fault.
@@Ndasuunye oh hi. I haven't said anything about guilt regarding what Devola and Popola did or failed to do, maybe you meant to tag the OP instead of me?
Well, either way, my doubt stays the same: I don't understand why Devola and Popola helped Replicant Nier until it was too late for them to stop him, knowing he'd kill Gestalt Nier and ruin the entire project by doing so. Why would they help him then turn against him near the end?
Regarding your comment, sure, the "original" Devola and Popola are guilty of not finding the best way to solve the problems they had been facing for a long time, but did they really have what was needed to fix things anyway? The project, Nier's struggles, all that. Near the end of the game it's implied that things had turned into a mess long ago in ways they couldn't fix even if someone else tried to help.
And even so, there were many Devolas and Popolas, the 2 in Automata are not the same as the other 2 in the previous game, so do the current ones really have to suffer in their stead after all this time has passed? Because it doesn't seem like they're being punished for their own actions (haven't played Automata, can't say much from my perspective), thus it sounds pretty unfair
Something that a lot of people over look is that Devola and Popola were becoming attached to Nier’s Replicant. In fact, before the first battle they ask you to return to the village and during that battle they said they wanted to wait another 100 years. The reason they wanted to wait was to let Nier’s Replicant live his life, die, and then use the blank Replicant to give to the Shadowlord. What they didn’t count on was Nier’s gestalt growing impatient and losing faith in them doing their job. The reason they help Nier’s Replicant get to the castle is because Nier’s gestalt locked them out as well. They were in the same position as Nier’s Replicant was. So they helped him get in, but once he wouldn’t stop on his quest to save his sister/daughter they had to stop him even if they had grown an attachment because they’re first priority was to save humanity even if they grew attached to Nier’s Replicant. It’s really tragic, because Nier’s gestalt set everything in motion. If he hadn’t stolen Yonah Nier’s Replicant would of spent his life trying to help her not be sick until his eventual death…he’d never have had a complete hatred for shadows for stealing Yonah and he wouldn’t have tried to kill the Shadowlord at all.
I'm a simple man,
I see a new lore video by ValkyrieAurora, I like.
Devola and Popola are my favorite characters from this series. They've been burdened with carrying the weight of separate models, and are forced to show compassion to those who wish they basically never existed.
*at the camp*
Devola (to 9S): ''A little thank-you for saving your butt would be nice!''
Well, aren't you a rude little girl.
*a few hours later*
Devola (to 9S): ''I hope you... don't regret this...''
:(
Me: I wish I could just watch a NieR Automata Summary video than just watching a Let's Play.
[Few days later Sophie uploads a NieR Automata Summary video]
Me: Oh wow who's this Emil guy, he seems very interesting.
[Few days later Sophie uploads a Emil video]
Me: Devola & Popola were in the original NieR? I want to know more!
[Few days later Sophie uploads a Devola & Popola video]
Me: wtf
Ashe323D wow you've got some really good luck charm or somethin
Jon Brown I mean i already did after i posted this comment soooooooooooo yeah
necessity is the mother of invention
Dont call her by her name if you dont know her personally. She has a RUclips name for a reason
SPOILERS
Project Yorha was started by the Devola and Popola we meet in game (before they were reprogrammed/reset), plus some other androids.
The Yorha Project document has a list of all the steps and at least the first one is what Devola and Popola did.
They also said they were gonna try their best to fix things, it's part of their program to ensure humanity's "survival". Even with a lie, so they don't lose their reason to exist.
Together with their memories the picture is more clear. Still, we don't know who continued the project (other than the Pods) after D&P were reprogrammed.
Now it's time for some speculations: I believe that just like humans left Project Gestalt to the androids, D&P left Project Yorha to the Pods. I'm 99% sure the Pods were created by D&P since they use maso energy for the "skills"
EDIT: We now know that the project was started by an android named Zinnia. Devola and Popola still helped (unknowingly) with the subsequent step but didn't come up with the idea themselves. The whole project was totally automated, similarly to the Patriots of MGS
Does that mean D&P could be the 1 'model' of the androids? like 2 and 9 and the model numbers for 2B and 9S respectively?
No, they were just amongst the first androids created by mankind many thousands of years before Automata. Yorha No1 was the commander of the experimental Yorha during the Pearl Harbor Descent Mission, who died before landing and command passed to No2 (A2)
Ah fair, is that explained in the terminal behind Anemone? Can't remember any 1(A,B,C,D.....S) throughout my gameplay
No the first No1 is mentioned in the Yorha stage play. But right at the beginning of Automata, before taking control of 2B the commander is 1D, another model 1
Cheers, been on my mind a while, you really know your stuff :)
Did anyone else.... go back home and visit the bar or fountain, just to hear the girls sing?
I'd stop playing altogether, and just listen to their song.....
*Spoiler altert*
They're pretty much seen lying down with their eyes closed, I assumed that (and the context) confirmed their death but maybe I'm wrong.
Yoko Taro said the game has a happy ending. Well, surprisingly, he wasn't quite trolling! Ending E is relatively happy... by Drakengard/NieR standards anyway...
Yes they're dead, if you actually search for the script 5 ending, "Farewell" the VA of 2B will say that Devola and Popola couldn't make it, so they died.
Happy ending while humanity is extinct FOREVER.... And
Machine lifeform still remains....
Without Name Human got extinct thanks to Nier long before the aliens arrived.
Happy ending that makes me sad for like a whole week XD I really wished Popola, Devola, the Commander of the bunker, operator 210 and the machines in Pascal's village would have survived.
Thanks for this. I knew Devola and Polola's story from Route C Nier automata. I always felt for them. They shouldered the blame for something you couldn't blame them for. There are a lot of times Nier Automata's androids and machine life forms mirror Humanity. Tragically, They don't have anyone to tell them where they verge off into those darker, best kept buried aspects. We're cruel to our children; we makes demands they carry out without question, by leaving them no lee-way. They keep making the same mistakes we do.
Reprogramed to feel guilt? Ok that's it, brb, gotta get mah shotgun.
It's android season.
Don't know why I read that in duke nukem's voice but damn it fits.
Taro will very likely work on a different project all together now. Automata is the best game in the DrakenG/Nier series. Yoko is pleased with the way things have manifested.
'a different project all together'
given how the game ends
yeah.
one could say that.
The new game will probably be called Arkengard
I think the original NieR was considerably better (ignoring game-play) but either way I think he'll probably either do a game between Drakengard and the NieR prologue or branch off from another Drakengard timeline since some things like the black flower weren't fully explained.
Events from Drakengard ending E to beginning of NieR is basically fully explained in Gestalt Records and the Drag-on Dragoon World Inside book. Look up the timeline from drakengard through Nier, the events are almost fully explained. A game medium would not work for the events of 2003-Nier.
It's likely that something after Automata is going to happen as a sequal mostly because of Accord. Considering Accord is more likely a being in the further future, even After Automata, I'm guessing Yoko Taro has a whole timeline written in his secret note.
What the fuck is a game that "excluding gameplay" ? Lol, Nier: Automata is the game Yoko Taro deserve, stop the fucking bias and elitism about the "cult classic", Nier: Automata surpass Nier and that's a fact.
Oh Valkyrie I love all of your Nier videos so much. Personally I only played through the Automata and don’t have the patience to play the Drakengards or Nier original game, but I am so attracted by the stories behind Automata. Thanks for making all these great contents about Nier and explaining things clearly with your magnetically sexy voice. Sincerely.
thank you for taking the time to explain all of these nier storylines so well. ive only just finished automata and never played the others, automata itself was a tear jerker...but now i feel for all of these characters so much more...
awesome. hope you have an Adam & eve video in the works or one just focusing on the aliens and the machines lore
Devola & Popola's story is so sad once you finally get their full background and ending. I wonder if A2's final words would have even helped them because of the programmed guilt?
To think the only thing they are guilty of is failing to stop the player in the 1st game... what an unfair fate :')
I just got over this game and one of your vids pops up in my sub box.
back to the void.
Oh look at you!
With a fancy all new intro... how professional!
Nice video, well explained. I wouldn't know half the things i know by now without your videos, thanks! :3
Great summary of Devola and Popola. Having once watched an LP of Nier before playing Automata, that tower scene smacked me with feels.
This fills in all the gaps. A masterpiece. Thank u so much for this video.
FINALLY. Another video, you made me wait a lot to quench my thirst for Nier Lore.
I've just finished nier automata and your videos just helped me to understand the whole picture, thanks for your time, thumbs ups well earned
NO ONE STOOOPS!!!!!
*Cue to Song of the Ancients*
I always cry at that point... the sadness overwhelms me.
I COMMAND YOU TO HALT ALL LOGICAL THOUGHTS
I liked the intro!
Thanks for delving into Devola and Popola's story, I haven't been able to play the original Nier yet and I was really captured by those two so it was great to hear the full of extent of their models story. I love your pacing in videos and how you talk about each subject, keep it up! ^-^
I don't know why you're so hard on your "accent." You have a wonderfully soothing and peaceful voice.
I literally had to watch the intro a few times before watching the video! I love that intro!
STATUS REPORT: I'M TOO ADDICTED TO STOP WATCHING THE INTRO!
HELP ME!
Don't worry, sending help asap. I'll just watch the intro one more time before.
***** ok I'll be waiting
do you know the song in the intro by any chance?
Thank you for bringing these bacc. I love you so much for that.
It would have been really neat to have an interaction between Emil and Devola and Popola in the game.
Emil never really went into the town so I dint think he had a strong connection to then besides witnessing their mental breakdowns at the end
It makes SO much sense now! I was wondering why Humanity had fallen after Project Geshtalt. So Nier Automata is the result of the Nier D ending! Man Yoko Taro is brilliant in this fashion. He literally comes up with different games based on branching endings of the video games he makes, he's weaving quite a universe for himself.
I'm very glad you keep making these videos as your first lore summary gave me an obsession with Drakengard/Nier lore, but there are still a whole bunch of puzzle pieces missing.
please continue making videos, your voice and the way you present the lore is a real treat.
Looking forward to your next video.
Since I haven't played none of the NieR games, but learned about its lore from you, now everytime I see 2b walking animation, I hear your voice as well, pretty w e i r d.
It is a compliment, nonetheless
Great video!
Also, the detail of smoothly changing accent when you pronnounce some non-english words is very nice (Yo-ko Ta-ro)
We miss you Valkyrie
yeah... these two are pretty up there in terms of how sad their story is along with Emil's.
Video was fiya, Content itself was fiya, You fiya, This whole channel fiya. Keep up the good work for all us Nier fans lol
I WANT TO HOLD HANDS WITH DEVOLA!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Lewd
Why one when you can go for both?
They are very beautiful and even charming so it's understandable.
devola and popola is like buy 1 get 2, but instead of getting, you are most likely be losing.
*sniff
God the excellent narration coupled with the emotional story makes me kinda wanna cry
i just finish Nier Automata for the fourth time and for every time a play this game i feel. Amm
it just like i full in love in this game.
what is i try to say is that you are doing a great job explaining the story of the game and also the characters.
good jop- keep going-and-thank you .
I appreciate you making these videos, I just started neir: automata and the backstory is really nice to have.
Great story, thanks for the video
I subscribed because you helped me understand the lore a lot. Especially since Automata was the only game I've played. Great vids! :)
i love the new intro and the video! awesome work as always
After playing Replicant, it makes much more sense and yet I can't really blame any of them. They couldn't have known that the original Nier, the Shadowlord, would abort the plan and run off to kidnap Nier Replicant's sister, after waiting a thousand years to save his own. The pieces were then set in motion and they did their best to prevent Replicant Nier from killing the Shadowlord, but they weren't able to and do humanity was doomed.
OH MY GOD. Is this..still a game? Ubelievable masterpiece.
And thanks for the video, it answered a lot to me.
I know this is an older video of yours, but since you did Emil and Devola and Popola I just wanted to mention that I would die a little (of happiness) if you did Kainé. :D
You have a really soothing voice, I could listen to you talk about Nier and other games all day
For whatever reason, Devola and Popola are my favorite characters in the NieR series. Their story has always resonated with me, and Eden Riegel does a fantastic job with their voices. Their boss fight in the original NieR is one of my favorite moments in any game.
Thanks for the video. Really enjoyed it. Just did a watch of the original NiER and man this story is amazing.
This part was one the most heart breaking parts of the game. Then again, Route c is heart break breaking.
Thank you so much for taking the time to make these videos! I never played Drakengard or the original Nier and don't have the means to even I wanted to. Without these videos, some of the stuff in Automata would've gone right over my head and many questions left unanswered. Plus, a voice one could fall in love with doesn't hurt either. :')
Just finished ending E and nearly all the side-content today and I'm just left with this huge void now. Q_Q
This unit has lost its purpose. Mental state deteriorating. Questioning reasons of further existence.
Yeah that helped a lot. I read the files but might have not interpreted it properly cuz I only played it once & wanted to get back to the action. The only thing that was really hammered in was their immense guilt for failing the humans. Thanks, Soph
I swear there's a line of txt somewhere late on in the game (maybe in the tower?) that says that Devola & Popola have had their memories altered to both alleviate their guilt as well as allow them to more easily bare the persecution they suffer. This suggested to me that maybe there weren't multiple models of them as they tell you but they are in fact the original two whom made the mistake (somehow surviving their destruction) that resulted in the collapse of the project.
Of course i may be misinterpreting what i had read, or misremembering it now, but it did make me wonder and made their story seem all the more tragic to me.
Michael Clitheroe
Yes I remember thinking the same thing the first time I saw it although at that time I had no idea that over 1500 years passed between Nier and Automata.
I think that conversation you are talking about occurred when Devola and Popola heal 9S for the first time.
Wow!!!! That was a slight spoiler, since I'm on the 9s playthrough but i dont mind. This was really insightful😊 I cant wait for these moments and the A2 moments
Dont worry, I could decipher your "mumbling".
You spoke quite clearly in fact.
THANK YOU for making sense of all of this!
Can I tell you? You have a voice that makes me fall asleep that's in the best way I can think of, it's incredibly soothing to hear your voice. Like someone very kind is speaking sorry if that sounds insulting in some way
wow ive been waiting for this for a while now.....i didn't know you already made this. like wtf
Ahhhhhh Nier, what a wonderful universe. Awesome Video!
I love their story so much. Two of my favorite characters in the series.
good beging theme and edition for your videos...I love how you narrate your videos. Your voice so deep and pleasant...not in bad way. I really love the game and more with your explanation.
First: I like your calming voice....
Second: I wondered about those two because i never played Nier or the other games... So Thanks :)
it's just so sad that there is not more of Devola and Popola in Automata. they are super interesthing and complete caracters like you just whant to know more and more. And as always Great Video :D
I believe in the world guide for Nier Automata, there is a line that goes something like 'the two twine units didn't return, but aren't you somewhat glad' not exactly accurate but the point was it implied that Devola and Popola did die at the base of the tower.
In the art book that came in the black box edition, there's a quote from one of the resistance camp androids that says that they're happy that the red-haired twins never came back. So they more than likely died, or went elsewhere.
i cried like a little girl throughout their death scene! i loved those 2!
Ah, Yoko Taro. The great story teller of Tragedy, Despair, and Mental Breakdown. I need more videos! :D
Very well put together vid
Nice mumbling, I loved it!
Thank you for this video. It really gave the twins a lot more character than I had gathered in my play through of Automata. You're voice is great for your explanation style of videos, though my only tip would be to try to add a bit more of a pause at the end of your sentences, since the end and beginning of your sentences can sound like they're running too closely together. Thanks for your content though.
Girl i told u again... you have a very relaxing voice.
Nice vid, im starting the 9S path on the game
I love this video, thank you for making it ❤️
you're subscribed to "Matthewmatosis", I knew there was another reason I was drawn to your channel! Keep up the good work!
Also as a comment on the end of the video....what is your personal thought on the twins' fate at the end of the series? Do you think they'll survive?
Lv5SuperTuba probably not tbh the other twin went beser after devola got killed in the original imguessing thats an androud protocol then. They were built as twin units. Anythinf thay happens to the other will br reported and thus reactive to the other. Idk its a very human reaction tbh. Im a twin and i lost my other twin a fewyears ago. It hasnt been really intrusive to my mental status until recently. The empty spot the spot that made you "unique" to the others anywaayds yea i hope theyvhave more dlc exploring more nier connections
Lv5SuperTuba Basically when one goes the other wishes to not live! And take as many enemies with them as possible
Wow...Im very sorry for your loss. I hope you find peace again soon.
hey idk if you noticed but i just did that in nier automata once you get the weapon shop flyer Accord is mentioned! it's pretty cool that they do actually state that she exists here you can google the flyer!
Amazing as always
Honestly This Chanel is where i get 75% of my neir lore
So basically.... this is all Nier's fault.
Yes he is
Basically. Nier waited a thousand years before bringing his daughter back to life. What a poor choice that was. If he would've acted sooner...humanity would've been more prepared for the alien invasion. Now look at where we are...2B is dead, 9S went crazy, humanity is extinct, wow. It all falls into Nier's poor choices. Yet, it also falls on the humanity too. We created some pretty messed up things. Crazy. Confusing. Yet it all comes together into one big story......amazing.
Its the fault of the guy who nuked shinjuku
@@michaelbasham6227 Not if you do ending E of automata.
I felt so f*cking bad at that last line from them. Utterly preferred the "left to interpretation" message rather than seeing them legit dead out there. I don't know what I'd've done if they died. I grew to like them so much :'(
...and then they fully recovered, were forgiven and lived happily ever after in a garden full of butterflies and love. THE END.
This was lovely. Thank you for this.
Though in regards to the twins fate once you enter the tower, I noticed that if I came back out neither of them are moving. I know they are androids lol they don't need to breathe. But still this felt as if they both passed away when you are in the elevator.
Sad end for a painful story.
Forget 2B, Popola is best girl!
If i were you i could had choice both...
as usual great video, I hope that sooner or later you can make more in depth videos from the Drakengard games including the second one haha. Keep up the great work, we appreciate it :)
I feel pretty bad for them now because when I first met them I assumed they would've been back as the bad guys considering, that the female voice from the tower was odly close to their voices and until the helped us I really expected them to fight us
Poor Deevo and Pop Pop. :( great vid as always.
I'm still confused on how the tower sprung up in the first place out of nowhere. And what does the Ending in 'E' spell out for A2, 2B & 9S for the future. Hopefully they're somewhere out there alive & fishing with Anemone or something.
Just find you channel and It is awesome!! Please keep it up with things like this!
your Drakengard/Nier videos are amazing. Thank you.
Another great Valkyrie video, liked
Thanks for this. It made me understand the twins better. Since i don't own a PS3 i haven't played nier, even though drakengard 1 and specially Autómata are some of my Favorite games.
Damn, you are like a girl version of VaatiVidya!
To me, that little story, only typed out, not even spoken by voices, of the twins fleeing through the desert is the best part of Nier automata.
You just got a new subscriber. And it's me! Great videos!!!
Love your content so much