Even if this weapon stays as a somewhat joke weapon for all eternity, the only thing that matters is that the Solemn Vow needs a Festive variant with it wearing a Santa Hat!
@@joanaguayoplanell4912 you seem to be missing the point of that joke. When a medic is in a pub, they’re usually left out to dry and can’t fall back fast enough, and get slaughtered because the team decided to do something else suddenly without telling the medic.
@@flyingturret208thecannon5 and you seem not to know that with a couple of binds the Medic autocall can be used to see your teammates through walls at any moment you need.
"who gives a fuck about doing harm? I don't give a fuck, I'll put a pipe bomb in the rib cage of someone if I'm doing an open heart surgery. It's an epic prank!"
Real Doctors: "Do no Harm" Medic: im afraid zats not fun for me (i say zats to say "thats" like the medic talks cuz everytime he talks i hear a "Z" so thats why so you dont judge or anything)
But it might be too over powered what does the sniper really Use he’s third Slot anyway like maybe the Bushwacker so you might need to add some more downsides
@@ryanred1525 Maybe. Sniper melees are sorta memes. Maybe give it a holster and equip penalty on top of swing speed decrease and I think that would be an alright trade off.
I think the 10% speed boost should only activate after you have healed a teammate and it last 3 seconds. That way they they don't spam it for the sake of the speed boost by themselves and will need a teammate nearby to proxy it. The "view all teammates HP" will work as always.
I like the suggestion of reworking it to give you a team outline whenever you like. Although, I will say that I actually use the Solemn Vow quite a lot already, in particular alongside the Quick-Fix since that's the Medi Gun I most often use when pocketing someone specific and following them around all over the map, and letting your pocket know (through voice chat, I know a foreign concept to most) who are the weak enemies they should focus down is actually pretty helpful. Not to mention, when you're using the Quick-Fix, sacrificing the dominance of using the Ubersaw doesn't feel so bad since the QF builds so quickly that gaining 25% on hit for a charge that doesn't really do much feels less impactful. Great video!
@@serPomiz Do you ever have a match with only power class, and that's the one guy who you can heal because everyone else is a Sniper, Spy, Scout, or Engineer?
@@gravity1537 at that point you can only do quickfix and keep your frail teammates as topped of as possible, you ain't gonna push the enemy defenses down. Period
Every name aray calls the solemn vow: - Like a white dude on a stick - Like medusa went to a retirement home - Like a philosophy major's shake weight - Like mime Santa - Like Kratos made of mashed potatoes - Like a lumberjack geisha - Like if math class had a stepdad - Like Colonel Sander's grandpa - Like a Yukon Cornelius saltshaker That's it, he had enough... ... ... ... *- Like Zeus in a cake mixer*
I personally love the Vow. I renamed my Strange one to "My Odd Medical License" And the description: "I finally got my medical license back! Oddly, it says 'Do More Harm'."
It is banned because of it's ability to see enemy Ubercharge, lowering the skill ceiling rather than raising it. If it didn't have this one ability, it could find it's way into competitive matches.
Because the other weapons are trash, not only are weak, extremely situational and only worth pulling out very rarely, they are also the worst implemented weapon in tf2. The syringes you get to see, unlike any other projectile, are calculated client side, so the actual syringes on the server are in another place, actually, thats why so often you hit when you shouldn't and miss when you see a perfect . This , combined with the ridiculously low projectile speed, makes it impossible to get good at this weapon, and it is only reliable when shooting at enemies that run at you in a straight line. The crossbow, however, adds depth to medics gameplay, it adds meaningful decisions, makes it so you finally have to aim as med, and let's you pull out sick shots like the other classes. If finallybis like med had a primary. The crossbow is not the problem, it is one of the best designed unlocks in the game.
The Crusader's Crossbow overshadows every other weapon because it's overpowered and gives you the ability to heal teammates from a save distance with no downsides for doing so. A medic is normally designed to heal teammates in the battlefield which is a risk reward system cuz he helps the team but he also brings himself to danger. The Crusader's Crossbow completely contradicts that idea by letting you heal your teammates from a save distance. Valve needs to give it a really heavy downside in order to make it not overpowered. the only one that I could think of is to maybe make it that it can also heal enemies or that it maybe doesn't heal teammates at a specific distance. Overall it needs a heavy nerf to not overshadow the other weapons and knowing the Community, they will cry and complain to such an extend that valve most likely will just bring it back just so that the community shuts up
@@cerocero2817 I rarely use the Crusaders Crossbow because I can't aim for shit. Syringe guns can be weird to use, but once you get the hang of it I've found something such as the Blutsauger can be helpful if I'm making an escape from a trigger-happy scout. Even though I do agree it is Medic's best primary, I don't think it's nearly as powerful as some people say it is.
@@tim14022000 It adds the risk of missing the shot, since often you'll have to aim at a moving teammate, and you need line of sight , and you get less über, and it lacks crit heals, so it definitely requires taking meaningful decisions. It was already nerfed to get less über, it's perfect as is, doesnt make sense destroying a great weapon so that you have an excuse to use crappy ones. The comunity would cry becauuse such a change would make medic weaker, less skill based, less deep, less involved and more boring in genneral. Would you also say that pyro should have all his melee weapons nerfed into the ground because the fireaxe is shit?
This is actually my favorite Medic melee weapon (mine's even called "Physicians Phriend"), it's just too much fun sniping low-health enemies who aren't expecting it at long range with the Crossbow. Also, I love the irony of maiming people with a bust of Hippocrates, it just speaks volumes about Medic's character. I wouldn't be averse to it getting changed up, though. (Although I'd like to keep the ability to see enemy health and names as a passive as a little bonus, it isn't exactly overpowered.)
@@country_mouse7079 It's not busted. It's just a bit too powerful for too little downsides. The biggest downside for it is "It's not the ubersaw" which is a pretty big downside all things considered. It also removes the need for a crucial skill in competitive tf2: "Uber-tracking" or whatever you want to call it, which just makes it not fun to play against because the enemy medic can always know what uber you're at just by quickly glancing at you which puts the enemy medic at a disadvantage since a medic hardly ever pulls out their melee to begin with. The upside outweighs the downside so much that it's banned in 6s. (idk if it's banned in HL, but I assume it is. could be wrong). A decent balance change that would still keep the same vibe of the weapon, would be require it to be active to see enemy health/uber, and a -50% holster speed penalty
@@MythicTF2 The quick fix makes the "Its's not the ubersaw" downside redundant as The quick fix already boosts uber charge rate. Id say its more for pocket medics to tell their heavy/pyro/soldier who the weak links are in the other team
8 minutes of middle age men trying to prove to the world that solemn vow is a joke while dont remembering that he was a stock purist at one time in his life.
Ah, now to add this to the "ArraySeven Videos I've Watched Way Too Much" after the week goes by. I really did miss these, and one thing I really enjoyed was the end part where you even gave tips to people who use a weapon you personally think is bad. One hell of a comeback for weapon reviews.
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I think the Solemn Vow may be unnecessary for competitive, but in casual it can be a great sidegrade for the medic just allowing you to have more info about the enemy
Pretty interesting because you know THE GUY KILLS FOR A JOB but I guess if you ended up on his table, you will at least live to get up from it with varying degrees of death possiblity. Remember supposed boneless man was able to tell others his condition before medic lost its licence for his practice.
5:25 - Disguised spies actually still have teammates outlines, so the Solemn Vow would be useless in spy checking. Although, if a teammate calls out a spy, you can use your Solemn Vow to either 1. Check the names of other players (if the spy is disguised) or 2. Wait for a unfamiliar outline to pop up on your screen, indicating a spy has just appeared.
Did you not listen to the thing he said literally 10 seconds before your time stamp? "I would suggest against disguised spies being outlined", then he proceeded to say it could be used for spy checking under those circumstances.
When I equip the solem vow, its used for when a scout engages me or someone flanks me, In those moments when I can see there health it makes me more confident I can kill them and return to my team. When a scout with 10 health is trying to kill you knowing he has 10 health helps immensely. Although it isnt META pairing it with the blutsauger allows a medic to defend himself better, because he can gauge there health and determine if fighting is even an option. an 80 health solder vs a 200 health solder is a big deal. For me it helps in determining whether I live or die, and it does it in a way the other saws do not do for me, by making it so I can live in the first place
Here's an out-there idea: Displays all the information passively, regardless of current weapon. BUT it no longer is a "weapon". You cannot pull it out, you basically lose your melee entirely and have to rely on your primary and medigun. May need a buff, but your trading close range defense for on demand information. Plus, it goes with the whole 'do no harm' theme... y'know except ironically.
That is a direct nerf to what it already is, which is not what this weapon needs. It already displays all the information passively regardless of the current weapon, you're just taking away the part where you can use it as a last resort too.
you make the point that "people already do what the solemn vow does without it." while this is true, if youve ever watched competitive or played it, even the most perfect of teams still dont always track hp perfectly and the word you said for uber tracking was a "guess" and to the reason uber faking exists is to psyche out the enemy med. faking means nothing if you spot the enemy med. i feel like your changes enables medics to be dumber because it encourages them to not be aware of their teams organization and positioning around it. the movement speed buff is useless since medic can copy scout speed and it would, again, just encourage medics to make positioning mistakes. ive also seen people say that it was banned in comp, but as of this season of RGL, it is not
He is on the casual side then comp. Because as you said it CAN be good in competitive but in pubs where majority does dumb things, you can't really use it. You are right about movement speed if medic wasn't a fast class, it would be less important but he isn't and can and will do mistakes because of over estimation. Seeing allies is good however it does come with a hefty down side. As a passive item that helps you gather information, it should have a better down side than slower holster as it can make positioning and understanding the situation better, I would suggest +10% more damage taken from bullets thus making you learn to use positioning better. When a random group gets paired to play in comp it can help medic to understand where he should be. A training tool per say.
@Murat Tan Dude, you can already get that medic wallhack he describes by simply enabling the Medic autocall at some insanely high HP %. It works on disguised and invisible Spies, so have fun sniping them from across the map as well.
i cannot even describe how often WHERE THE F**K IS MY TEAM happens to me. every other game is like this. i get out the gate, turn the corner, then follow the sounds of gunshots and explosions for what feels like hours trying to find out where the heck everyone went. and then i run into an enemy soldier that blasts my arse into oblivion to an empty spawnroom and still can't find the entire 11 other teammates.
The main problem I thought it had is that the Spy already gets that information, and can relay it to the team. (And we all know you'll have *at least* one spy)
Back then, before the nerf, I used to think it was objectively the best melee since it literally had no downsides, and every other saw's effect was like "yeah thats cool but I cant see their health"
I personally love it, it allows me to pick and choose my fights, predict enemies movement, and make informed calls to my teams. I mainly play competitive though. For pubs or super low level comp I still recommend (and use) the ubersaw. Too many dumb people you can farms a full Uber off.
true. amputator if you love making sure your team get as many heals as possible like i do. i love pulling it out when i'm sitting at a dispenser or if most of my teammates are injured and in a small area.
2:23 >be you >you are alone 1v1 med vs soldier (you're on kritz with 0% uber left) >see soldier has full hp >demoman jumpscare just shot 40 more damage at you. >think "shit I'm not getting any uber for this" instead of "shit I'm going to lose this 1v1 and die" smh smh smh
The vow was my first strange, so it became a staple to my loadout. It's has changed my mindset of medic so much that I feel naked with other saws at times. Being able to know if I have the advantage on the heavy revving up at me to bonk him real quick or if I should just run and leave him in the dust and live is a great tool for me.
@@HeartOfDarth21 i dont think he did at this time either. he literally said the main thing he thinks when he pulls it out is "oh shit im not getting an uber for this" insisting he already moved onto the ubersaw
"see enemy Ubercharge" should be replaced with "see teammates below 50% health through walls" and obviously "cannot see cloaked enemy spies through walls"
Really loved the concept of the “seeing where teammates are and their health” when you spawn as medic and I would love to have that as a permanent effect as a weapon
so i always guessed the play on Hypocrates is that with solemn vow, you get to see enemy health and "shouldn't abuse that knowledge" to do harm, but tbh, a weapon that lets you see enemy ubercharge rate would be interesting to see on either sniper or spy, though it would definitely be easy for a sniper to pick off medics right before they can pop uber if that were to happen, unless the bullet traveled like insanely slow as a trade-off. spy may make the most sense class-wise to be the one who should know this stuff
I don't remember the last time I saw someone use the solemn vow. And I really like these ideas. The "respawn wallhacks" are horrendous for spies and need an overhaul anyway, but it's a real blessing for medics. You get to see exactly what class is doing what, who of them is closest and in the most need of a medic, and it helps you get some of the most amazing crossbow shots, just as they cross the corner.
Idk man. I think its rewarded skill. Like your using your constant ability of direct hit for, well an easier to hit and higher damage direct hit. Without the ability of constant direct hit it would be pointless
This would be a very good rebalance for the solemn Val I mean when your teammates call for medic you can see the medic sign through walls but the solemn Val would actually have an outline witch would make it better
And that's exactly why his rework is fucking useless. If you want to see enemies through walls simply use the bind that changes the autocall theresold to above 150% HP. It's easily available and you should be able to find it if you look for "Medic Radar". If you can't, no worries, I'll leave it on the top of the comments anyway so everyone can see how dumb this is
don't forget that the solemn vow always makes you ask the question "can I take him," while with anything else, you go "hell yeah I can take him, cmere you little cream puff, let me show you the definition of butt christmas" if you get the reference that's awesome
I don't think it should increase your movement speed since Medic is already the second fastest class and it would be even more annoying to spies but the outline sounds amazing It shouldn't allow for easy spychecking though. It can be made hard by only highlighting spies that are in sight.
I actually really enjoy the see enemy health buff It lets you know if you should just run or melee someone as a last ditch effort in a situation where your pocket just died
The solemn vow allows you to look at the enemies while you're healing to gauge whether shooting at them will pick them off. It's actually pretty above average in usefulness compared to most tf2 weapons.
@@sword7166 Ubersaw > vitasaw & solemn vow > Amputator(medigun is better 9times out of 10) ArraySeven is saying the solemn vow is a joke when it's a solid melee weapon for medic.
3:58 Please no...please God no....Spy is already hard enough to play... When Valve added that stupid ass wall hack outline, it DESTROYED the disguise kit entirely. Utilizing the disguise kit for what it was meant for was already hard enough, but now using it at all punishes the spy because when an enemy respawns, they'll see that obvious spy through the walls who's trying to flank simply because he's pre disguised (as all spies should be) who had it not been for those wall hacks, no one would've known he was there. I've been killed countless times because the enemy tracks me down simply because i'm not cloaked 24/7 despite being an extremely stealthy spy. I know I know, no one falls for disguises since 2009, but at least it didn't HURT you to disguise yourself. Now being disguised, which is something you have to have on at ALL times to combat the sentries, significantly hurts you because the enemy now sees your obvious ass through and across the map. God I hated when Valve added that mechanic. Medic will be a walking talking spy detector like how engie was with the pre blue moon short circuit, except more powerful. I really, REALLY think this is a bad idea. Edit: Okay nvm, you addressed that point about disguised spies. ...I probably should have watched the whole video before writing this comment... Still, i'm gonna keep it up here just so it goes to show that the whole outline thing in general, is really *FUCKING STUPID! FUCK I HATE THIS FUCKING SYSTEM!*
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redeeming qualities of the solemn vow
- it has a cool beard
Comstock would be jealous
Hippocratic oath? More like Hippocratic *SUGGESTION*
Whoa that's hot we'd better ban it in comp
it's a bad joke with a beard
the solemn vow is literally a dad joke
That’s tf2
You'd think hitting someone with a marble bust would be a little more detrimental, you know?
The jag is sharper yet does less damage
@@diegodankquixote-wry3242 #logic
I know. It should also have 50% slower swing speed but does 150% more damage a swing.
@@GrumpyIan yeah it probably shouldn't do more damage than a bonesaw
Making The Solemn Vow a battle medic weapon would be cooler, imo. It plays into the joke and encouraging niche playstyles is always a plus.
Even if this weapon stays as a somewhat joke weapon for all eternity, the only thing that matters is that the Solemn Vow needs a Festive variant with it wearing a Santa Hat!
i am all for this. also a halloween version where the head has a chunk missing and the eyes are black/glowing.
maybe this year...maybe...
I found him again
Stickmaster is just now a big part of this community now
@@alo7712 Always has been.
“It would answer the age old question, WHERE THE F*CK IS MY TEAM?!”
As a pub medic I ask this more than any question to ever be asked
You know you can already do that with the Medic autocall feature, right?
@@joanaguayoplanell4912 wait people dont use it
@@usernametaken017 yeah they don't unless its a lime green scout with 124 hp spamming it
@@joanaguayoplanell4912 you seem to be missing the point of that joke.
When a medic is in a pub, they’re usually left out to dry and can’t fall back fast enough, and get slaughtered because the team decided to do something else suddenly without telling the medic.
@@flyingturret208thecannon5 and you seem not to know that with a couple of binds the Medic autocall can be used to see your teammates through walls at any moment you need.
"Where the f*ck is my team?"
Lazypurple: *laughs in engineer*
They're all protecting the engie now
@@Artsy_Fella has happened three times in the last decade. Hello darkness my old friend........
when Array said: "The problems with the solemn vow," I legit thought that he was criticizing the Hippocratic oath.
He used to be a battle med, can you blame him?
Others: “Do no harm.”
Array: “Beg Pardon?”
"who gives a fuck about doing harm? I don't give a fuck, I'll put a pipe bomb in the rib cage of someone if I'm doing an open heart surgery. It's an epic prank!"
Real Doctors: "Do no Harm"
Medic: im afraid zats not fun for me
(i say zats to say "thats" like the medic talks cuz everytime he talks i hear a "Z" so thats why so you dont judge or anything)
@batrachianbill9760 bruh
Last time i was this early, the syringe gun actually spun when you shot it
It doesn’t anymore?
It's supposed to spin???
@@thilsiktonix yup in old tf2 also demoman's grenade launcher used to have its barrel to spin
@@festivedarnspahs5676 it's still does lmfao, before it had 6 pipes tho
@@Breeze45-s4h I meant whe you reload it
I shall now call my solum vow *”Zeus In A Cake Mixer”*
What about: optional hippocratic suggestion
i call mine the crit magnet
Imma name mine that lol.
I will call mine as ''God's Brother'' or ''Zeus's Brother'' xD
Hippocritic Oath is what I would name my Solemn Vow
IF I HAD ONE
Solemn Vow: exists
ArraySeven: That's not funny, VALVe. That's not the type of humor we do here.
"How about another joke Array?"
@@stanleyharno4534 I think we've had about enough of your jokes.
@@railfire1857 What do you get... when you cross a slowly updating game with a company that ignores it and treats it like trash?
@@ryanhernandez1877 I'll tell you what you get! you get
- * updated localization files *
@@uh3622 BOOM
Just give this to sniper and don't change a thing.
Change how it looks and the name
But it might be too over powered what does the sniper really Use he’s third Slot anyway like maybe the Bushwacker so you might need to add some more downsides
@@ryanred1525 Maybe. Sniper melees are sorta memes. Maybe give it a holster and equip penalty on top of swing speed decrease and I think that would be an alright trade off.
@@potato1341 yea
I think the 10% speed boost should only activate after you have healed a teammate and it last 3 seconds. That way they they don't spam it for the sake of the speed boost by themselves and will need a teammate nearby to proxy it. The "view all teammates HP" will work as always.
I like the suggestion of reworking it to give you a team outline whenever you like. Although, I will say that I actually use the Solemn Vow quite a lot already, in particular alongside the Quick-Fix since that's the Medi Gun I most often use when pocketing someone specific and following them around all over the map, and letting your pocket know (through voice chat, I know a foreign concept to most) who are the weak enemies they should focus down is actually pretty helpful. Not to mention, when you're using the Quick-Fix, sacrificing the dominance of using the Ubersaw doesn't feel so bad since the QF builds so quickly that gaining 25% on hit for a charge that doesn't really do much feels less impactful. Great video!
I use those items with the overdose for the set bonus of all the item names looking green at the bottom of the card
Uncle Dane the Pocket Medic Main
The quick fix is my favourite
UNCL DAN IS A VERY GUD QUICK FIX MAN
Thanks my dude, really glad you liked it!
dane please review the pomson 6000 its this epic secret unlock for the engineer its the best weapon in the game please review
I sometimes forget that the ubersaw isn't Medic's stock bonesaw.
What are uou talking about?
Same
@@mohammadwaled409 the ubersaw is used so much that it's viewed as pretty much just the default
@@crwlr9787 ohh okay
Thank you
I don't use the ubersaw but I recognise it's the best in a lot of situations
"I seem to have misplaced my team!" -me, as a Medic Main, on large maps.
"it seems that, once again, my teamates decided to go full demoknight on a sentry nest. even if most of them aren't even demos." me.
@@serPomiz Do you ever have a match with only power class, and that's the one guy who you can heal because everyone else is a Sniper, Spy, Scout, or Engineer?
@@gravity1537 at that point you can only do quickfix and keep your frail teammates as topped of as possible, you ain't gonna push the enemy defenses down. Period
Use the Medic radar bind, mate.
"Now, if only we could get Valve to actually do something about it"
Now THAT's a joke
Every name aray calls the solemn vow:
- Like a white dude on a stick
- Like medusa went to a retirement home
- Like a philosophy major's shake weight
- Like mime Santa
- Like Kratos made of mashed potatoes
- Like a lumberjack geisha
- Like if math class had a stepdad
- Like Colonel Sander's grandpa
- Like a Yukon Cornelius saltshaker
That's it, he had enough...
...
...
...
*- Like Zeus in a cake mixer*
He didn’t say the 5th one but it was on the script
We all know it, but I feel it's time to talk about one of the worst medic weapons in the game.
New videos coming soon you guys, hang in there!
Ok if you say I will I will
Well, while it may be a bad weapon, it’s still banned in comp...
I actually use the solemn vowel to decide if I should assist killing a target or preparing to shoot a crossbow at my teammate.
Hey array can I ask you a question what do you recommend to get the capper or to get that one bumper car taunt
Duelfueled get a job. Also buy from marketplace.tf
Lmao, as he said "here a few tips" at 6:34 I got an ad.
So it sounded like "Here are a few tips - get a new pair of sunglasses"
lol
Lol
Omg same! Mine was mcdonald's all day mcgriddles tho
@@julesedelweiss we are besties now, you can't stop it
Ironic, this is coming from the man who uses stock
Yes I know he’s a battles medic it’s a joke don’t nitpick
Oh man, I haven't used stock in years! The alternatives are just too damn good, even including the solemn vow.
He hasn’t used stock/been a battle medic in like 5 years
ArraySeven you will forever be labeled as the battle medic RUclips guy :/
@@LiNH_314 I'm sure that sound encouraging
@@mikeygames269
I'm sure _that_ sounded encouraging as well.
“The solemn vow is a joke” is a completely different statement outside of the context of tf2
easy way to pick out a bot without even looking at the name:
Sniper
Merasmus hat
Cozy camper
KICK
@@silentfilms7459 yes perfect way to make people confused
And now you can tell if their name is festive hitman
F2p kids: who start and can even make 1 kill but they look like them so them get kick
I got kicked in a server for not having a profile picture so they accused me of being a bot.
While playing spy and not sniper...
@@silentfilms7459 and then miss every shot
I personally love the Vow.
I renamed my Strange one to "My Odd Medical License"
And the description:
"I finally got my medical license back! Oddly, it says 'Do More Harm'."
You must’ve applied to be a harmacist
@@swagmaster47625 erase.
@@swagmaster47625 Hey.....thats a freakin' cyclone! I hate those things!
Yea it’s the one I use
The medic God's has blessed us with the return of array!
U mean Lord Gaben has
Thou dare speak against our Lord and Savior Gaben!? Sounds like *Heresy*
Is because the KRITZSaw needs a nerf.
almost had the joke
I had a Solemn Vow to use until I got something else.
I renamed it "The Neanderthal's Headbuster".
I thought I was funny.
I re-named mine to
“Zeus on a stick”
That’s pretty funny
@@raisinx funny
steveheist that name is funny
I renamed mine “head on stick”, real original I know
"it would answer the question "where the f**k is my team?!?!"" The pain every medic main feels
The Solemn Vow: Am I a joke to you?
ArraySeven: Yes
"The Solemn Vow is a JOKE"
Yet it is banned in 6's and is the ONLY medic Melee that is banned in 6's
It is banned because of it's ability to see enemy Ubercharge, lowering the skill ceiling rather than raising it. If it didn't have this one ability, it could find it's way into competitive matches.
@@gravity1537
So it's banned because it's OP?
@@TheAverageGuyTAG not op but when it got unbanned its used 99% of the time
like the pompson.
just because it is banned in 6's doesn't mean it is good/OP.
@@JoaoOstroski420 Yeah, that's a great way of putting it.
HES NOT AWAYSEVEN
He is
@@QualityJo_ it's a joke he means that Array isn't Away anymore, if you get what it means.
@@Bonniethebunny nob
@@Bonniethebunny oh I didn't notice that
@@QualityJo_ damn now u infecting the comment section?
*HELL NAW*
i have one renamed to "macintosh plus floral shoppe" cause theres a head bust in the cover of that album, i thought it was pretty funny
HeadOn. Apply directly to the forehead.
@@noiber HeadOn. Apply directly to the forehead
I just called it head on stick
I remember when it used to be just a straight upgrade to the Bonesaw because it showed you the enemy health with no downsides.
"It's not even a good [joke]"
*audience laughs*
Hmm...
I think we need to talk about how the Crusader's Crossbow completely overshadows every other primary Medic weapon. Seriously.
nah, it deserves to be there
Because the other weapons are trash, not only are weak, extremely situational and only worth pulling out very rarely, they are also the worst implemented weapon in tf2. The syringes you get to see, unlike any other projectile, are calculated client side, so the actual syringes on the server are in another place, actually, thats why so often you hit when you shouldn't and miss when you see a perfect . This , combined with the ridiculously low projectile speed, makes it impossible to get good at this weapon, and it is only reliable when shooting at enemies that run at you in a straight line.
The crossbow, however, adds depth to medics gameplay, it adds meaningful decisions, makes it so you finally have to aim as med, and let's you pull out sick shots like the other classes. If finallybis like med had a primary.
The crossbow is not the problem, it is one of the best designed unlocks in the game.
The Crusader's Crossbow overshadows every other weapon because it's overpowered and gives you the ability to heal teammates from a save distance with no downsides for doing so. A medic is normally designed to heal teammates in the battlefield which is a risk reward system cuz he helps the team but he also brings himself to danger. The Crusader's Crossbow completely contradicts that idea by letting you heal your teammates from a save distance. Valve needs to give it a really heavy downside in order to make it not overpowered. the only one that I could think of is to maybe make it that it can also heal enemies or that it maybe doesn't heal teammates at a specific distance. Overall it needs a heavy nerf to not overshadow the other weapons and knowing the Community, they will cry and complain to such an extend that valve most likely will just bring it back just so that the community shuts up
@@cerocero2817 I rarely use the Crusaders Crossbow because I can't aim for shit. Syringe guns can be weird to use, but once you get the hang of it I've found something such as the Blutsauger can be helpful if I'm making an escape from a trigger-happy scout. Even though I do agree it is Medic's best primary, I don't think it's nearly as powerful as some people say it is.
@@tim14022000 It adds the risk of missing the shot, since often you'll have to aim at a moving teammate, and you need line of sight , and you get less über, and it lacks crit heals, so it definitely requires taking meaningful decisions.
It was already nerfed to get less über, it's perfect as is, doesnt make sense destroying a great weapon so that you have an excuse to use crappy ones.
The comunity would cry becauuse such a change would make medic weaker, less skill based, less deep, less involved and more boring in genneral.
Would you also say that pyro should have all his melee weapons nerfed into the ground because the fireaxe is shit?
This is actually my favorite Medic melee weapon (mine's even called "Physicians Phriend"), it's just too much fun sniping low-health enemies who aren't expecting it at long range with the Crossbow. Also, I love the irony of maiming people with a bust of Hippocrates, it just speaks volumes about Medic's character. I wouldn't be averse to it getting changed up, though. (Although I'd like to keep the ability to see enemy health and names as a passive as a little bonus, it isn't exactly overpowered.)
Seeing enemy health and Uber is so " Busted " in comp
@@country_mouse7079 It's not busted. It's just a bit too powerful for too little downsides. The biggest downside for it is "It's not the ubersaw" which is a pretty big downside all things considered. It also removes the need for a crucial skill in competitive tf2: "Uber-tracking" or whatever you want to call it, which just makes it not fun to play against because the enemy medic can always know what uber you're at just by quickly glancing at you which puts the enemy medic at a disadvantage since a medic hardly ever pulls out their melee to begin with. The upside outweighs the downside so much that it's banned in 6s. (idk if it's banned in HL, but I assume it is. could be wrong).
A decent balance change that would still keep the same vibe of the weapon, would be require it to be active to see enemy health/uber, and a -50% holster speed penalty
@@MythicTF2 The quick fix makes the "Its's not the ubersaw" downside redundant as The quick fix already boosts uber charge rate. Id say its more for pocket medics to tell their heavy/pyro/soldier who the weak links are in the other team
the only problem with it is that... the ubersaw exists
@@MythicTF2 he said "busted" not busted
6:33 "here are some tips to make the most out of it"
Ad: *Y O U G U R T*
"It distracts Medic from his job"
I missed the part where that's my problem
I just love solemn Vow. I use it all time, im not even kidding, I can know when i can kill enemy, or when I have to run. Also I give info to my team.
ArraySeven, SirSwag, FunkE, and InternetHistorian all upload within a 24 hour period...
*We’re in the endgame now*
This comment helped me find out that I was unsubscribed from the Historian for some reason.
Array: "The solemn vow is a joke and not even a good one"
Also array: "The solemn vow in the current state is a joke, buy it can be a good joke"
it can but it just isnt.
It can be, after some big changes.
Life is filled with inconsistent messages
Looks like someone forgot to pin their own comment
@Im not sharing my name
Huh?
i use amputator because i can't hit anyone with an ubersaw
-__________- what how
Hold up, that’s the same thing
i use it to heal everyone, cuz it’s hard to heal everyone at once.
@@shadowdoggo6163 too bad it doesn't give that much of a progress towards the uber charge.
Johnny Stankiewicz i die before i can even hit them
**1 year later**
"solemn vow is actually good"
It was been 7 months....
Ma' look! That medical assistant main who grants the healing of team mates with his fire hydrant gun has uploaded!
8 minutes of middle age men trying to prove to the world that solemn vow is a joke while dont remembering that he was a stock purist at one time in his life.
Lol
Ah, now to add this to the "ArraySeven Videos I've Watched Way Too Much" after the week goes by. I really did miss these, and one thing I really enjoyed was the end part where you even gave tips to people who use a weapon you personally think is bad.
One hell of a comeback for weapon reviews.
5:20 God I feel like I’ve had a seizure
"if math class had a stepdad" was the best one by far
Me: **watches video**
Me: "Yeah, that's why I use it."
I guess you could say the concept for the weapon is a “bust”
Haha i get it, because bust mea
Hey, good one mate
The best thing about the game I wanna see ya In ikea
I don’t know what if they were going to be there a few years later I didn’t think I would be able until then they had to pay 💰 was a good night I was just really sad I was just like I gotta was a really funny day and then when I got home 🏡 was a really fun day I was just like I gotta I was gonna was I just wanna I wan to kill you haha 😂 is a good day “I hate you so much jack” was the day that I was going yoda was I just wanna make you pay 💰 I was like telling a vegetarian about how the pizza 🍕 was that I wanna was a good night I was really good at that and it’s just like the other way it is just a lot and it’s a good idea but maybe it’s because you always thought 💭 is the day I wanna rip your body apart and I just got to get out and I don’t know what if it wasn’t so stupid but I gotta was like the first one time I had to get a bunch of people that were going on a date and they didn’t actually have any money 💰 so I killed them I stabbed them 37 times.
budum 'tss
Ayyyy
The crafting recipe for the solemn vow is 8 jarates. ITS MADE OUT OF PISS!!!
Made out of DNA samples! How they got them we don’t know. But still
Piss stick
At least the weapon warns you that is "Does no harm"
it could've been better if when you kill someone with it, it gets covered in their blood
"There's no more I'm - Zeus in a cake mixer"
I think the Solemn Vow may be unnecessary for competitive, but in casual it can be a great sidegrade for the medic just allowing you to have more info about the enemy
*Zeus in a cake mixer*
Hey buddy, been rewatching a lot of your old videos lately, brings me back to when I was younger. Keep up the quality content
I think that because of the irony of the weapon, it makes it the most “medic” weapon of all
Medic secondaries
Edit: I Just realised they meant its MEDICore
Pretty interesting because you know THE GUY KILLS FOR A JOB but I guess if you ended up on his table, you will at least live to get up from it with varying degrees of death possiblity. Remember supposed boneless man was able to tell others his condition before medic lost its licence for his practice.
I thought I was just a bad player for not knowing where anyone on my team was. Thanks, needed a boost :)
He’s not just a clown, he’s the entire circus but not even that good at it
No, you can get a name tag and call it "You're Busted"
That must mean my collector's solemn vow is worth it.... right..?
The solemn vow is honestly a really big meme. I just love running around like an idiot hitting people with a head and immediately dying.
Array: Here’s a few tips for you
AD: DONT BE THAT GUY
XD
“Now if only we could get valve to do something” is literally tf2’s community in a nutshell
That guy looks like Lenin with extra beard
5:25 - Disguised spies actually still have teammates outlines, so the Solemn Vow would be useless in spy checking.
Although, if a teammate calls out a spy, you can use your Solemn Vow to either
1. Check the names of other players (if the spy is disguised) or
2. Wait for a unfamiliar outline to pop up on your screen, indicating a spy has just appeared.
*Pokemon Battle theme*
A wild spy has appeared!
Did you not listen to the thing he said literally 10 seconds before your time stamp?
"I would suggest against disguised spies being outlined", then he proceeded to say it could be used for spy checking under those circumstances.
@@twincatalysts1155 oh shit, I didn't understand him so yeah...
...I Think my joke just flew over you two...no offense
@@monicalist1356 ? How does one not know Pokemon? Also, we were just discussing my mistake and did not mention your comment...
When I equip the solem vow, its used for when a scout engages me or someone flanks me, In those moments when I can see there health it makes me more confident I can kill them and return to my team. When a scout with 10 health is trying to kill you knowing he has 10 health helps immensely. Although it isnt META pairing it with the blutsauger allows a medic to defend himself better, because he can gauge there health and determine if fighting is even an option. an 80 health solder vs a 200 health solder is a big deal. For me it helps in determining whether I live or die, and it does it in a way the other saws do not do for me, by making it so I can live in the first place
WHAT IF
You could see ALL weak enemies through walls like Sombra from the TF2 community's favourite game Overwatch?
I dunno, great vid though!
@Zesty Zucc Yep my initial thought was below half health perhaps, and anywhere on the map although that could be insane
"I'm zeus in a cake mixer."
-ArraySeven
Captions*
Here's an out-there idea:
Displays all the information passively, regardless of current weapon.
BUT it no longer is a "weapon". You cannot pull it out, you basically lose your melee entirely and have to rely on your primary and medigun.
May need a buff, but your trading close range defense for on demand information.
Plus, it goes with the whole 'do no harm' theme... y'know except ironically.
That is a direct nerf to what it already is, which is not what this weapon needs. It already displays all the information passively regardless of the current weapon, you're just taking away the part where you can use it as a last resort too.
you make the point that "people already do what the solemn vow does without it." while this is true, if youve ever watched competitive or played it, even the most perfect of teams still dont always track hp perfectly and the word you said for uber tracking was a "guess" and to the reason uber faking exists is to psyche out the enemy med. faking means nothing if you spot the enemy med. i feel like your changes enables medics to be dumber because it encourages them to not be aware of their teams organization and positioning around it. the movement speed buff is useless since medic can copy scout speed and it would, again, just encourage medics to make positioning mistakes.
ive also seen people say that it was banned in comp, but as of this season of RGL, it is not
I agree with you array is really shit at trying to balance and change things, he either buffs them to hell or makes the changes absolutely useless
He is on the casual side then comp. Because as you said it CAN be good in competitive but in pubs where majority does dumb things, you can't really use it.
You are right about movement speed if medic wasn't a fast class, it would be less important but he isn't and can and will do mistakes because of over estimation.
Seeing allies is good however it does come with a hefty down side. As a passive item that helps you gather information, it should have a better down side than slower holster as it can make positioning and understanding the situation better, I would suggest +10% more damage taken from bullets thus making you learn to use positioning better.
When a random group gets paired to play in comp it can help medic to understand where he should be. A training tool per say.
who he fuck plays competitive tf2
@Murat Tan Dude, you can already get that medic wallhack he describes by simply enabling the Medic autocall at some insanely high HP %. It works on disguised and invisible Spies, so have fun sniping them from across the map as well.
@@joanaguayoplanell4912 Thanks I didn't know that. I will try to implement it.
I like to use this weapon when i'm playing with a friend on a Discord call
i cannot even describe how often WHERE THE F**K IS MY TEAM happens to me.
every other game is like this. i get out the gate, turn the corner, then follow the sounds of gunshots and explosions for what feels like hours trying to find out where the heck everyone went. and then i run into an enemy soldier that blasts my arse into oblivion to an empty spawnroom and still can't find the entire 11 other teammates.
turn on auto medic calling in advanced options
Maybe get better at positioning and dont be "that medic"
@@teaandbiscuitz8677 my positioning isn't the problem. i have to be great at positioning because i run the amputator.
@@thatguybrody4819 If you can't find your team, that's bad positioning. Doesn't matter if you use the amputator if your team is never in range xD
@@jjthan8772 i can be at the front lines or directly on the cart and still find nobody. it's not my positioning. i can guarantee that.
The main problem I thought it had is that the Spy already gets that information, and can relay it to the team. (And we all know you'll have *at least* one spy)
Back then, before the nerf, I used to think it was objectively the best melee since it literally had no downsides, and every other saw's effect was like "yeah thats cool but I cant see their health"
The dumbest part about this is I've been laughing at this joke for years now
I personally love it, it allows me to pick and choose my fights, predict enemies movement, and make informed calls to my teams. I mainly play competitive though.
For pubs or super low level comp I still recommend (and use) the ubersaw. Too many dumb people you can farms a full Uber off.
true. amputator if you love making sure your team get as many heals as possible like i do. i love pulling it out when i'm sitting at a dispenser or if most of my teammates are injured and in a small area.
How many times will ArraySeven rant about the solemn vow before he realizes no-one else cares
The solemn vow, it’s purpose is written on it. “Do no harm”
2:23
>be you
>you are alone 1v1 med vs soldier (you're on kritz with 0% uber left)
>see soldier has full hp
>demoman jumpscare just shot 40 more damage at you.
>think "shit I'm not getting any uber for this" instead of "shit I'm going to lose this 1v1 and die"
smh smh smh
The vow was my first strange, so it became a staple to my loadout. It's has changed my mindset of medic so much that I feel naked with other saws at times.
Being able to know if I have the advantage on the heavy revving up at me to bonk him real quick or if I should just run and leave him in the dust and live is a great tool for me.
Medic should have the ability to see enemy health by default.
"The Solemn Vow is a JOKE" says the one who uses the bonesaw as a weapon lol
he used to he doesnt anymore
@@mrbeeman9459 *5 months later*
@@HeartOfDarth21 i dont think he did at this time either. he literally said the main thing he thinks when he pulls it out is "oh shit im not getting an uber for this" insisting he already moved onto the ubersaw
@@mrbeeman9459 Cool story.
"see enemy Ubercharge" should be replaced with "see teammates below 50% health through walls" and obviously "cannot see cloaked enemy spies through walls"
Really loved the concept of the “seeing where teammates are and their health” when you spawn as medic and I would love to have that as a permanent effect as a weapon
Honestly, with your suggestion, i found my self saying "I'd probably dump the ubersaw for this" out loud, which confused my flatmates to no end.
1:22
As a Engineer Main, the information is true here. I could kill the medic with my heavy friend.
6:45 is your profile picture heavy freight train derricrane
so i always guessed the play on Hypocrates is that with solemn vow, you get to see enemy health and "shouldn't abuse that knowledge" to do harm, but tbh, a weapon that lets you see enemy ubercharge rate would be interesting to see on either sniper or spy, though it would definitely be easy for a sniper to pick off medics right before they can pop uber if that were to happen, unless the bullet traveled like insanely slow as a trade-off. spy may make the most sense class-wise to be the one who should know this stuff
I don't remember the last time I saw someone use the solemn vow.
And I really like these ideas. The "respawn wallhacks" are horrendous for spies and need an overhaul anyway, but it's a real blessing for medics. You get to see exactly what class is doing what, who of them is closest and in the most need of a medic, and it helps you get some of the most amazing crossbow shots, just as they cross the corner.
“Rewards skill” *shows the direct hit*
Idk man. I think its rewarded skill. Like your using your constant ability of direct hit for, well an easier to hit and higher damage direct hit. Without the ability of constant direct hit it would be pointless
"Do no harm"
The enemy wouldn't get hurt, they'd just laugh at you for using a pathetic melee
You say that and then you get oneshot by a crit solemn vow
This would be a very good rebalance for the solemn Val I mean when your teammates call for medic you can see the medic sign through walls but the solemn Val would actually have an outline witch would make it better
And that's exactly why his rework is fucking useless. If you want to see enemies through walls simply use the bind that changes the autocall theresold to above 150% HP. It's easily available and you should be able to find it if you look for "Medic Radar". If you can't, no worries, I'll leave it on the top of the comments anyway so everyone can see how dumb this is
don't forget that the solemn vow always makes you ask the question "can I take him," while with anything else, you go "hell yeah I can take him, cmere you little cream puff, let me show you the definition of butt christmas"
if you get the reference that's awesome
I don't think it should increase your movement speed since Medic is already the second fastest class and it would be even more annoying to spies but the outline sounds amazing
It shouldn't allow for easy spychecking though. It can be made hard by only highlighting spies that are in sight.
im gonna be honest I dont play medic much but I think your content Is amazing and your definitely getting me into medic
Solmen vow : exists
ArraySeven : "I'll make a video about this."
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“Now only if we could get valve to do something about it.”
Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha
*cries in corner *
The spy checker function is useless because the crusaders crossbow can already do that
I actually really enjoy the see enemy health buff
It lets you know if you should just run or melee someone as a last ditch effort in a situation where your pocket just died
"3 minutes ago"
I've never been this early before...
The solemn vow allows you to look at the enemies while you're healing to gauge whether shooting at them will pick them off. It's actually pretty above average in usefulness compared to most tf2 weapons.
The thing is it's not competing with most weapons in tf2, it's only competing with medic's other melees, which are basically all super strong
@@sword7166 Ubersaw > vitasaw & solemn vow > Amputator(medigun is better 9times out of 10) ArraySeven is saying the solemn vow is a joke when it's a solid melee weapon for medic.
3:58
Please no...please God no....Spy is already hard enough to play...
When Valve added that stupid ass wall hack outline, it DESTROYED the disguise kit entirely. Utilizing the disguise kit for what it was meant for was already hard enough, but now using it at all punishes the spy because when an enemy respawns, they'll see that obvious spy through the walls who's trying to flank simply because he's pre disguised (as all spies should be) who had it not been for those wall hacks, no one would've known he was there. I've been killed countless times because the enemy tracks me down simply because i'm not cloaked 24/7 despite being an extremely stealthy spy.
I know I know, no one falls for disguises since 2009, but at least it didn't HURT you to disguise yourself. Now being disguised, which is something you have to have on at ALL times to combat the sentries, significantly hurts you because the enemy now sees your obvious ass through and across the map. God I hated when Valve added that mechanic.
Medic will be a walking talking spy detector like how engie was with the pre blue moon short circuit, except more powerful. I really, REALLY think this is a bad idea.
Edit: Okay nvm, you addressed that point about disguised spies.
...I probably should have watched the whole video before writing this comment...
Still, i'm gonna keep it up here just so it goes to show that the whole outline thing in general, is really *FUCKING STUPID! FUCK I HATE THIS FUCKING SYSTEM!*
Omg dude XD
Yeah, you probably should've.
Hey, I just wanted to say that this was really well edited. I liked the fire gag and the blowing dust visual was a nice touch. Great work.
Thank you I worked very hard :)
Remember though, the medic became a doctor when the Hippocratic oath became the hippocratic suggestion.