We just bought a Red Sport 400 (in red) certified pre-owned 2022 with 16K miles. We are replacing our 2014 Q50 Sport that has 183k miles. This has been a very reliable model for us. Love the minor updates and don't mind what some consider to be outdated interior features.
This has always been one of the best looking sedans in my eyes & still is today despite its age. Can't believe it's over ten years old now. I really hope a redesigned model eventually comes out.
unfortunately, Infiniti hasn't significantly updated the Q50 in several years and there is no planned full-model update. Basically its days are numbered.
@@naveenthemachineapparently a special edition IS500 in a bright blue “vector blue” color got leaked recently. The problem is that they’re making only 250 of them.
@@naveenthemachine the IS had a full exterior re-design in 2021, then added the 5.0 V8 in 2022. So the current IS at least has all-new body panels and a massive engine upgrade over the old NA V6. And there is an all-new IS coming, patent images have already been registered.
Thanks for your thoughts and video. I bought my 2017 Red Sport over 3 years ago for under $30k. It had 17k miles on the odometer. 3 years later and 40k more miles, I can sell it for around $20-24k. I have gotten my moneys worth. Cars are not a good investment. They always depreciate. But I will say that I have enjoyed driving it every day and have had a lot of fun!!! The Q50 RS400 is a comfortable, versatile, all around good vehicle. At least it has been for me.
some cars hold value better than others i got my 21 tlx type s stolen a month ago and insurance paid out 51k lmao the msrp was 53.6k when i bought it lol. 12k miles and 3 years
At $60k, the V8 IS500 is definitely the only option between the two by a long shot. Q50s are an absolute bargain, but only if you buy used. You can easily find a red sport with 2 years 30k miles or less for about $32k. The VR30 has proven to be decently reliable as long as some minor issues are fixed (that are also performance upgrades) and proper maintenance. I currently have a 14' Q50S I got fully loaded with every option the dealer offered that i bought used 7 years ago for $25k. It has full boltons and tuned for 6 years with tons of racing and have had zero major issues at 100k miles
I got a 2019 AWD Q60 RS used for $36K with 56K miles on it 2 months ago! I just came out of a 2012 Toyota Corolla which was a great car but it wasn't anything like this red beast! 😯😯😎😎
I’ve had a Q60 RS since 2017. Up here in the Great White North, this thing is a 4 season blast! With AWD and a set of (un-studded) Nokian Haakapeliittas, it’ll make you grin in the worst winter can throw at us. Zero issues, now just over 6 years old. Got rid of the stock Bridgestone run-flats and the handling/comfort improved immensely on Michelin Pilot Sport A/S 3. The only complaint is it needs premium fuel which is super expensive in Canada. Such a shame there isn’t a turbo 4 hybrid in a revised model of this great, Japanese-made classic.
I have a white 2022 Red Sport 400. I love it. Its smooth and when you need the power, it delivers (sometimes with turbo lag). For me its one of the best looking sports sedan's on the road.
Call me crazy, but I still drool when I hear that engine! There’s no denying how much beauty this car still has. But I don’t foresee Nissan ever adopting the “change is good” notion for the Q50. Which is sad because like many of their outbound models, there was too much potential to ignore. But Nissan, and other Japanese automakers, have this innate ability to live by that ancient rule of thumb…”If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it!” Side note: Kirk, you’re probably the coolest dad on your block man lol love seeing your reviews featuring the kid seats!
Everytime I see one I want it! I also don't care if they ever restyle the car. It is just about perfect. However you are unequivocally correct. It is too expensive. The depreciation automatically rules it out.
It’s a Q50 tried and true. The car doesn’t need a redesign just features that come with cars half the cost. Wish Infiniti added ventilation on the front seats and heated rear. Owned these before. Drove the Lexus isf350 and was more impressed although slower, the Lexus was a go for me. Good luck Infiniti. It is a really nice reliable tried and true car.
I will say that their Bose system is great. I owned and 04 and finally let it go. I wanted so much to pick up another as I loved its timeless design but when there was no updates in the infotainment and full redo. I had to give up on Ifiniti.
Hugely underrated. No start stop bullshit. Nissan parts are generally more cost effective for repairs. And dealers are giving healthy discounts and guaranteed you get it at a much lower price than advertised and the competition. This vehicle has been refined to death. Plus made in Japan still.
I feel like if there were more contrast between the inner headlight elements, then it would be more modern looking outside but rear end is updated & modern.
Infiniti is competitive. Their issue is selling cars to people with a 300 credit score. People with a 300 credit score have poor abstract thinking skills, people with poor abstract thinking skills are typically bad at maintenance. Poor maintenance habits on a luxury-performance car is going to cause severe and intense depreciation. It's really a shame, as my friend has a Q50 and I've driven it extensively. It is equipped with the VQ37VHR, and has incredible ride comfort while still hugging the road as tightly as you can ask a 3,800lbs 4 door luxury sedan to. The interior is quiet, and free of creaks and rattles. The engine has a wonderful personality, providing plentiful but not excessive low end torque, and it pulls strong to its high 7,500 RPM redline. The transmission, an automatic, is also very intelligent, and appears to measure the driver's average throttle input across a fixed time window. In practice, if you've been using more throttle, it'll wait longer, and hold a lower gear to give you more access to the torque you've been demanding so much of. If you've been cruising with the throttle barely cracked open, it grabs the tallest gear, and requires more throttle input to gear down than if you were driving spiritedly. Really just an amazing car, which unfortunately is often purchased by irresponsible morons who ruin it.
Nice honest review. Infiniti is stuck in quicksand. My 2016 Red Sport looks almost the same as the 2023, what the hell. Traded it for a Genesis GV70 3.5 Sport Prestige when the QX55 I was considering and waiting for was such a huge disappointment. I liked the Red Sport looks and performance but the interior and tech are a decade behind the competition. Where are Infiniti's hybrids and EVs? The brand is dying, and now they have Genesis to contend with. I liked Infiniti, owned 3 straight (G70 IPL, QX50, Q50 Red Sport), but the lack of meaningful refreshes and tech updates is the recipe to go out of business.
My exact thoughts! I have been an infiniti owner for 15 years now, but my next car will be a Genesis. Infiniti is moving away from what brought people to their brand. SMH
@@williesullivan2643 I love my GV70 3.5 Sport Prestige, the entire Genesis line is excellent, concierge service is great, haven't been to the dealer since I bought it, they bring GV80's to my home when I have service.
I really wish most car company's would put their touch screen in the dash board, it looks so much clearer then a stupid screen sticking up from the dash broad.
most of the gripes people have about this car is "oh this is outdated". Do they need to update it just to be "new"? Those same people will complain that "new thing sucks" when lusting over cars they didn't buy when they were available. I think the Q50 is pretty much perfect and that's why it has survived so unchanged for so long. Nissan/Infiniti were on to something to have lifted the VR30DDTT from it for their Z.
Had a 2019 RS400…sold it back in May. Great timing on purchase, Mar 2020 (COVID chaos). Dealer knocked 17K off 60K MSRP. Sold it for 39K, so I lucked out…Reasons for sale, reliability, resale, safety. While it never left me on the side of the road…too many examples of this vehicle (belt, turbos, tire wear issues, etc) having issues. As you noted, after 5 yrs the resale is horrible, especially for those who paid full MSRP. When it comes to safety… I did not have an AWD version and felt totally unsafe. Way too much torque and Horsepower for a car that doesn’t have a limited slip differential, Q50 has an open differential. Turning a corner, pulling out in traffic, I’d feel safer in a Toyota Tercel. Car would lose traction and as a result shut down power, leaving the vehicle to flounder as traffic comes up on you. Waiting on my naturally aspirated 2024 IS500…should address my main 3 issues with the Q50.
Great choice in the IS500, such a beautiful car and the sonorous 5.0 V8 is a gem. I was so tempted to get one after sitting in one at the car show in Jan '22 but I ended up ordering a '22 Model 3P instead. Love it, different experience behind the wheel, very quick and comfortable but also a little unemotional. Overall though I love it. I had an '18 Q50 RS AWD before the Tesla and even AWD didn't fix the traction issues. I always disabled the TC as soon as I got in because of the exact reason you stated - the torque management in low grip (basically anything except going straight on a warm, clean dry road) was awful and would cut far more power than you'd expect and it would take far too long to adjust once traction was regained, which did feel like a safety issue. Disabling TC helped mitigate the unexpected cut in power but then the back end would lose grip and swing wide in Mustang fashiion unexpectedly if you were too aggressive with the throttle when turning right, especially. It was embarrassing on the number of occasions that it happened. I also had several repairs (including the ones you cited) in the 3 yrs I owned it (one requiring a flatbed) amounting to about $10k, thankfully all under warranty. But who wants to have a loaner car every 2-3 months while their car is being repaired yet again? I sold it in Feb 2022 and I was happy to be rid of it.
Awesome post…💯agree with your assessment. Embarrassing is a word I would use as well, definitely was the absolute worst turning right😂🤣. Should have my car in a few months…gotta use my 3500Ram as my daily until then🤣.
for 60k+, a M340i would be a better car to have in every way. I had my 2018 Q50S for six years now. I just had my turbo replaced because of turbo oil leak for about $8600. Good thing I had a 3rd party extended warranty that pays for it, only responsible for $100.
I love this car especially with that green color! You can say all you want about its older styling, yet, it is still very good looking and a bit stealth looking. Also, no one can deny the refinement in its design by now, which means a high level of reliability. I have driven new Q50s and even they are quite rapid, withe the V6 twin turbo design. If you think about the GTR, all the top level design and mechanicals, as well as development has always come down to these Infinitis. I have a 2017 QX50 which has a naturally aspirated 3.7 liter V6 all wheel drive and even that gets very quick in its power band and the all wheel drive system works amazing. The newer model of that vehicle has a new 4 cylinder turbo which is nowhere as nice or fast and feels wonky...it seems obvious to me, the longer a design is out there the more overall refined they are. This red sport is still a great buy today, unless, you are just looking for something that looks and feels like a brand new design and that is your main hangup! Drive one and see how fun it truly is...I am certain you will be surprised. A chip off the GTR.
Still love the old school speedometer, tachometer and central console equipped with buttons. Also, still prefer 4-door sedan with V6 engine and rear drive settings.
If they just gave it the trans, cluster, and infotainment in the Z and refreshed the front to look like the late Q60, I’d get it. Maybe not red sport, but definitely this car.
I’ll buy one with 30k miles on it in 2028😂 for 30k. These used are an amazing deal for what you get on paper, I like the older simpler cars and I think I would actually like this thing a lot. I don’t care for luxury interior and all that stuff. Apple car play and heated seats is enough 😂
Beautiful car. I have the 2019 Redsport 400 awd and have also owned the standard a 2015 V6 (300 hp sport awd) in ice blue. - neither of which came with Apple car play or android auto. Very simple updates would bring this car so much forward: -9 speed from the Z and QX60 - ventilated seats - replace the Dunlop Sport Maxx summer run flat tires (they are loud, expensive and dated) - consider UHP all season tires such as Michelin All Season 4’s, Pirelli pzero or Continental dws6+ etc - get rid of run flat tires and add back the spare tire package - update the infotainment to have a new high resolution 360 camera - modern head and tail lights - update the infotainment interface and processor. - service these vehicles at Nissan, very few Infiniti dealers left. The best colours: - dark blue - white - red - gray (I have this) Prior to the pandemic these were commonly $10000 off. Love it thus far, 80000+ miles zero problems. Zero problems with my prior V6 300 AWD
I have a 2019 and the dual screen is great, I drive a lot for work and my top screen always has my carplay with maps open and the lower screen I can control the radio without having to exit out of my carplay screen its great I have full screens for both
As an owner of an AWD Q60 RS, I would NEVER buy them “new”. Buying these used is where it starts to make sense, CPO & low mileage is the way to go. For the asking price, the competition is fierce in the segment. If I didn’t own a VR30, I’d be in a B58 (M440i/M340i) without a doubt. Infiniti/Nissan failed to make ANY meaningful updates & improvements for this platform. It had a lot of potential, updating infotainment, transmission & steering would have yielded much more sales. The competitors (German) are always improving models vs Infiniti staying stale which is just sad tbh.
You keep saying it’s dated as if everyone can afford brand new cars every other month…..I’m coming from a 94 Toyota, that thing is the future compared to my shitbox
i bought a used 2020 red sport with 18k on the miles for 38k. when i walked in the dealer and seen the price tag for a brand new one i laughed so loud. they on crack.
Kinda sucks that Q50 is compared against Integra. Thought this class of car is more comparable to that of TLX, but I guess years of stagnation allowed lower tier models to catch up. On the other hand... I get the fact that Integra Type S does punch above its weight class but... is it really worth that much money? is my doubt. Would've been nice if Honda decided to make Euro R Accord revival and upgraded that to the new TLX type S like in the early 2000s at high $50K to high $60K price tag would've made much better sense... Honda definitely knows how to pull that off. Their product planning is just downright atrocious while Toyota/Lexus is just killing it in that department these days.
That's a great idea. In many ways the TLX Type S is the lineal successor to the Accord Euro R. The Accord Euro Type S replaced the Euro R, and was rebadged as the TSX in America, then the TLX replaced the TSX.
@@TheBreakfastLover I really do miss the TSX and the wagon... I'm starting to think the real issue with the current Integra and Type S is indeed the namesake. If the current car was named as TSX successor or something different than Integra, I wouldn't bat an eye on its price and happily compared it against compact lux sedans.
@@KirkKreifels it would fare better but I think the IS/Q50 are still a cut above. We unfortunately don’t get the IS 500 here only up to the 350. We don’t have Acura here so if I had to choose I’d go Q50 over G70.
Here's my take on this: I don't think the Infiniti is a slouch in any department you've mentioned, compared to the other three cars. I'd definitely love one BUT the concern for me would be how hard it drops in resale value. That and it being a Nissan and their known issues with transmission and sensors would make me stay away. Lookswise, it's still a gorgeous and aggressive car but I agree that it looks outdated. I wouldn't be spending this much on this car given it's still the exact same car from 7 years ago. And this is how I feel about the GTR as well. I only hope Nissan doesn't allow the Z to suffer this same issue of becoming dated too. If I could afford any of the four, I'd go for the Lexus though.
I'm not going to spend that kind of money for power I will probably never need. So starting a vid with a 0-60 run does little or nothing to excite me. That said, it definitely is a sharp looking car. Spot on catch on those chrome door handles.
@@KirkKreifels Today Automotive Manufacturers are pushing horsepower and 0-60 times like gangbusters. It's their new hook to load up the cash flow. Same way they suckered me into buying my 428 cj Mach 1, Stang back in 1970. The more things change... 🤭
I used to have an '18 Q50 AWD Red Sport that looked identical to this one (other than having bright chrome instead of black chrome, which it should have had all along, IMO) and I agree it is a gorgeous car in the metal, although it looks a bit contrived and overwrought from some angles...overall though it has aged well. But I bought mine as a CPO for $39k (+TTL) and at that price back in 2019, I would say it was a pretty decent buy. At $63K, not a chance. I would not buy it again, I'd rather admire it from a distance as my experience with the car was not the greatest. The interior is nice but the only standout feature is the excellent front seats. Design, materials, performance and NVH are all well below the standard bearers for the class. It was a matter of mere months before I started to have the itch to get rid of it for something else and finally sold it last year and bought something far more enjoyable ('22 Model 3P). I do still think it looks good, though. It's too bad Infiniti didn't take it more seriously, if they had, I might still be driving it.
Well….. it’s a performance SUV. The ride is going to be stiff ,because it’s a high-performance SUV. I love stiff ride. I am a sporty guy enthusiast. If I wanted a softer ride I will get the regular model.. that’s just my two cents on it.
@@MikeYurbasovich what do you mean by that?? if you’re saying that it won’t last over 30,000 miles then we have a problem , because There are a plethora of BMWs out there with over a 100,000 miles ,and still running good it’s all about how you maintain and upkeep the vehicle..that goes for any vehicle. A person who has never owned a bmw , how would they know it won’t last over 30K miles.? I suggest anyone who buys a luxury card to get it brand new like I did; that way they can have a sense of relief knowing that the car never been dogged out and neglected with maintenance service.
G70 interior isn’t just as good as the q50’s. It’s wayyy better! Ventilated seats, heads up display, bigger infotainment screen, physical buttons for heated steering wheel & seat climate, diamond stitch leather, microsuede headliner and more!
Leave it to Nissan/Infiniti to put a 2010 Accord infotainment in a $60k 2023 sports car lol. Do people still buy Nissans/Infiniti? So ancient, ugly, and unreliable lol
Nissan is broke. Especially Infiniti. It’s why we haven’t seen an R36 yet. They’re trying to get lost money back with sales of their SUVs and Trucks. Infiniti has to hurry up with introducing the next QX80, the spy shots are already out there, so it’s going to happen. It’s just a matter of when.
We just bought a Red Sport 400 (in red) certified pre-owned 2022 with 16K miles. We are replacing our 2014 Q50 Sport that has 183k miles. This has been a very reliable model for us. Love the minor updates and don't mind what some consider to be outdated interior features.
This has always been one of the best looking sedans in my eyes & still is today despite its age. Can't believe it's over ten years old now. I really hope a redesigned model eventually comes out.
Well, if it’s Japan equivalent is getting discontinued, then…..
It's 9yrs old. 2014 launch
@@MCI-ReactGamingsir… they launched the 14s in 2013
unfortunately, Infiniti hasn't significantly updated the Q50 in several years and there is no planned full-model update. Basically its days are numbered.
I’d say the IS days are also numbered as well. They too haven’t made updates to stay relevant
@@naveenthemachineapparently a special edition IS500 in a bright blue “vector blue” color got leaked recently. The problem is that they’re making only 250 of them.
@@faheemabbas3965 the v8 and the 8 speed are very old. They didn’t even update it. 😂 and the platform is ancient on the IS
@@naveenthemachine the IS had a full exterior re-design in 2021, then added the 5.0 V8 in 2022. So the current IS at least has all-new body panels and a massive engine upgrade over the old NA V6.
And there is an all-new IS coming, patent images have already been registered.
@@TheBreakfastLoverbut apparently it’s an EV?
Thanks for your thoughts and video. I bought my 2017 Red Sport over 3 years ago for under $30k. It had 17k miles on the odometer. 3 years later and 40k more miles, I can sell it for around $20-24k. I have gotten my moneys worth. Cars are not a good investment. They always depreciate. But I will say that I have enjoyed driving it every day and have had a lot of fun!!! The Q50 RS400 is a comfortable, versatile, all around good vehicle. At least it has been for me.
17k miles for under $30k? Almost sounds too good to be true, whoever sold it took a loss
@@Anywaaysthey probably held it with an even bigger loss we're happy to get rid of it
some cars hold value better than others i got my 21 tlx type s stolen a month ago and insurance paid out 51k lmao the msrp was 53.6k when i bought it lol. 12k miles and 3 years
At $60k, the V8 IS500 is definitely the only option between the two by a long shot.
Q50s are an absolute bargain, but only if you buy used. You can easily find a red sport with 2 years 30k miles or less for about $32k. The VR30 has proven to be decently reliable as long as some minor issues are fixed (that are also performance upgrades) and proper maintenance.
I currently have a 14' Q50S I got fully loaded with every option the dealer offered that i bought used 7 years ago for $25k. It has full boltons and tuned for 6 years with tons of racing and have had zero major issues at 100k miles
It should’ve gotten the same facelift as the jdm nissan skyline for the 2020 model year, it would’ve been better than nothing
@@Brian_Eugene_Lee yea, one of the good Nissans with no cvt
I got a 2019 AWD Q60 RS used for $36K with 56K miles on it 2 months ago! I just came out of a 2012 Toyota Corolla which was a great car but it wasn't anything like this red beast! 😯😯😎😎
I’ve had a Q60 RS since 2017. Up here in the Great White North, this thing is a 4 season blast! With AWD and a set of (un-studded) Nokian Haakapeliittas, it’ll make you grin in the worst winter can throw at us. Zero issues, now just over 6 years old. Got rid of the stock Bridgestone run-flats and the handling/comfort improved immensely on Michelin Pilot Sport A/S 3. The only complaint is it needs premium fuel which is super expensive in Canada. Such a shame there isn’t a turbo 4 hybrid in a revised model of this great, Japanese-made classic.
I have a white 2022 Red Sport 400. I love it. Its smooth and when you need the power, it delivers (sometimes with turbo lag). For me its one of the best looking sports sedan's on the road.
Call me crazy, but I still drool when I hear that engine! There’s no denying how much beauty this car still has. But I don’t foresee Nissan ever adopting the “change is good” notion for the Q50. Which is sad because like many of their outbound models, there was too much potential to ignore. But Nissan, and other Japanese automakers, have this innate ability to live by that ancient rule of thumb…”If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it!” Side note: Kirk, you’re probably the coolest dad on your block man lol love seeing your reviews featuring the kid seats!
Still love the looks. They could’ve put the interior of the QX-60 and it would’ve nice.
Everytime I see one I want it! I also don't care if they ever restyle the car. It is just about perfect. However you are unequivocally correct. It is too expensive. The depreciation automatically rules it out.
Looks just like my 2018 that I bought last year. 29,235 miles, $34,095.
It’s a Q50 tried and true. The car doesn’t need a redesign just features that come with cars half the cost. Wish Infiniti added ventilation on the front seats and heated rear. Owned these before. Drove the Lexus isf350 and was more impressed although slower, the Lexus was a go for me. Good luck Infiniti. It is a really nice reliable tried and true car.
I will say that their Bose system is great. I owned and 04 and finally let it go. I wanted so much to pick up another as I loved its timeless design but when there was no updates in the infotainment and full redo. I had to give up on Ifiniti.
Hugely underrated. No start stop bullshit. Nissan parts are generally more cost effective for repairs. And dealers are giving healthy discounts and guaranteed you get it at a much lower price than advertised and the competition. This vehicle has been refined to death. Plus made in Japan still.
I feel like if there were more contrast between the inner headlight elements, then it would be more modern looking outside but rear end is updated & modern.
It basically needs a new interior.
After all the years in production its still a good looking and performing vehicle 👌
Love this car, and the Q70. We need new models though. I wish Infiniti would be more competitive. They got the capacity but not the initiative.
Just like Acura
@@IncognitoSpraxWell, sales beg to differ.
Infiniti is competitive. Their issue is selling cars to people with a 300 credit score. People with a 300 credit score have poor abstract thinking skills, people with poor abstract thinking skills are typically bad at maintenance. Poor maintenance habits on a luxury-performance car is going to cause severe and intense depreciation. It's really a shame, as my friend has a Q50 and I've driven it extensively. It is equipped with the VQ37VHR, and has incredible ride comfort while still hugging the road as tightly as you can ask a 3,800lbs 4 door luxury sedan to. The interior is quiet, and free of creaks and rattles. The engine has a wonderful personality, providing plentiful but not excessive low end torque, and it pulls strong to its high 7,500 RPM redline. The transmission, an automatic, is also very intelligent, and appears to measure the driver's average throttle input across a fixed time window. In practice, if you've been using more throttle, it'll wait longer, and hold a lower gear to give you more access to the torque you've been demanding so much of. If you've been cruising with the throttle barely cracked open, it grabs the tallest gear, and requires more throttle input to gear down than if you were driving spiritedly. Really just an amazing car, which unfortunately is often purchased by irresponsible morons who ruin it.
@@bubbleman2002 Mans argument is blame the poors 😂
@@bubbleman2002Agree
Nice honest review. Infiniti is stuck in quicksand. My 2016 Red Sport looks almost the same as the 2023, what the hell. Traded it for a Genesis GV70 3.5 Sport Prestige when the QX55 I was considering and waiting for was such a huge disappointment. I liked the Red Sport looks and performance but the interior and tech are a decade behind the competition. Where are Infiniti's hybrids and EVs? The brand is dying, and now they have Genesis to contend with. I liked Infiniti, owned 3 straight (G70 IPL, QX50, Q50 Red Sport), but the lack of meaningful refreshes and tech updates is the recipe to go out of business.
My exact thoughts! I have been an infiniti owner for 15 years now, but my next car will be a Genesis. Infiniti is moving away from what brought people to their brand. SMH
@@williesullivan2643 I love my GV70 3.5 Sport Prestige, the entire Genesis line is excellent, concierge service is great, haven't been to the dealer since I bought it, they bring GV80's to my home when I have service.
What’s a g70 ipl?
@@brandondaniels9237 I meant Q60IPL (Infiniti Performance Line), mixing up Infiniti and Genesis names
@@brandondaniels9237I think he meant G37 IPL
I really wish most car company's would put their touch screen in the dash board, it looks so much clearer then a stupid screen sticking up from the dash broad.
that interior in 2023 is wild
I don't think it's that bad
@@kyoaklandthere are cars half that price that don’t look this old
is the same as 2016 😂
most of the gripes people have about this car is "oh this is outdated". Do they need to update it just to be "new"? Those same people will complain that "new thing sucks" when lusting over cars they didn't buy when they were available. I think the Q50 is pretty much perfect and that's why it has survived so unchanged for so long. Nissan/Infiniti were on to something to have lifted the VR30DDTT from it for their Z.
Had a 2019 RS400…sold it back in May. Great timing on purchase, Mar 2020 (COVID chaos). Dealer knocked 17K off 60K MSRP. Sold it for 39K, so I lucked out…Reasons for sale, reliability, resale, safety. While it never left me on the side of the road…too many examples of this vehicle (belt, turbos, tire wear issues, etc) having issues. As you noted, after 5 yrs the resale is horrible, especially for those who paid full MSRP. When it comes to safety… I did not have an AWD version and felt totally unsafe. Way too much torque and Horsepower for a car that doesn’t have a limited slip differential, Q50 has an open differential. Turning a corner, pulling out in traffic, I’d feel safer in a Toyota Tercel. Car would lose traction and as a result shut down power, leaving the vehicle to flounder as traffic comes up on you. Waiting on my naturally aspirated 2024 IS500…should address my main 3 issues with the Q50.
Great choice in the IS500, such a beautiful car and the sonorous 5.0 V8 is a gem. I was so tempted to get one after sitting in one at the car show in Jan '22 but I ended up ordering a '22 Model 3P instead. Love it, different experience behind the wheel, very quick and comfortable but also a little unemotional. Overall though I love it. I had an '18 Q50 RS AWD before the Tesla and even AWD didn't fix the traction issues. I always disabled the TC as soon as I got in because of the exact reason you stated - the torque management in low grip (basically anything except going straight on a warm, clean dry road) was awful and would cut far more power than you'd expect and it would take far too long to adjust once traction was regained, which did feel like a safety issue. Disabling TC helped mitigate the unexpected cut in power but then the back end would lose grip and swing wide in Mustang fashiion unexpectedly if you were too aggressive with the throttle when turning right, especially. It was embarrassing on the number of occasions that it happened. I also had several repairs (including the ones you cited) in the 3 yrs I owned it (one requiring a flatbed) amounting to about $10k, thankfully all under warranty. But who wants to have a loaner car every 2-3 months while their car is being repaired yet again? I sold it in Feb 2022 and I was happy to be rid of it.
Awesome post…💯agree with your assessment. Embarrassing is a word I would use as well, definitely was the absolute worst turning right😂🤣. Should have my car in a few months…gotta use my 3500Ram as my daily until then🤣.
for 60k+, a M340i would be a better car to have in every way. I had my 2018 Q50S for six years now. I just had my turbo replaced because of turbo oil leak for about $8600. Good thing I had a 3rd party extended warranty that pays for it, only responsible for $100.
I love this car especially with that green color! You can say all you want about its older styling, yet, it is still very good looking and a bit stealth looking. Also, no one can deny the refinement in its design by now, which means a high level of reliability. I have driven new Q50s and even they are quite rapid, withe the V6 twin turbo design. If you think about the GTR, all the top level design and mechanicals, as well as development has always come down to these Infinitis. I have a 2017 QX50 which has a naturally aspirated 3.7 liter V6 all wheel drive and even that gets very quick in its power band and the all wheel drive system works amazing. The newer model of that vehicle has a new 4 cylinder turbo which is nowhere as nice or fast and feels wonky...it seems obvious to me, the longer a design is out there the more overall refined they are. This red sport is still a great buy today, unless, you are just looking for something that looks and feels like a brand new design and that is your main hangup! Drive one and see how fun it truly is...I am certain you will be surprised. A chip off the GTR.
Great review! 😄👍
Am lexus guy but i will stock with Q50 S the reason the AWD system 😊
Still love the old school speedometer, tachometer and central console equipped with buttons.
Also, still prefer 4-door sedan with V6 engine and rear drive settings.
"Long live the CD player" :)
Even though this car has aged, for everything you're getting it's still a great value.
I know a couple people with 2015 model’s nothing has changed my 06 m35 more luxury than tha new ones Infiniti use to be great
Good to see the interior hasn’t changed since I graduated highschool
If they just gave it the trans, cluster, and infotainment in the Z and refreshed the front to look like the late Q60, I’d get it. Maybe not red sport, but definitely this car.
I’ll buy one with 30k miles on it in 2028😂 for 30k. These used are an amazing deal for what you get on paper, I like the older simpler cars and I think I would actually like this thing a lot. I don’t care for luxury interior and all that stuff. Apple car play and heated seats is enough 😂
Who are these people paying over $60,000 for Q50's?!?
leases
@@MCI-ReactGaming touché.
I've been looking and bmw Benz Audi for 60k 250ish hp . Infinity has 400hp for that price
@@EzMoney95 BMW M2 - 63,000 MSRP, 453hp.
@@EzMoney95 car weight so much dont feel like he have 400
Beautiful car. I have the 2019 Redsport 400 awd and have also owned the standard a 2015 V6 (300 hp sport awd) in ice blue.
- neither of which came with Apple car play or android auto.
Very simple updates would bring this car so much forward:
-9 speed from the Z and QX60
- ventilated seats
- replace the Dunlop Sport Maxx summer run flat tires (they are loud, expensive and dated)
- consider UHP all season tires such as Michelin All Season 4’s, Pirelli pzero or Continental dws6+ etc
- get rid of run flat tires and add back the spare tire package
- update the infotainment to have a new high resolution 360 camera
- modern head and tail lights
- update the infotainment interface and processor.
- service these vehicles at Nissan, very few Infiniti dealers left.
The best colours:
- dark blue
- white
- red
- gray (I have this)
Prior to the pandemic these were commonly $10000 off.
Love it thus far, 80000+ miles zero problems. Zero problems with my prior V6 300 AWD
I have a 2019 and the dual screen is great, I drive a lot for work and my top screen always has my carplay with maps open and the lower screen I can control the radio without having to exit out of my carplay screen its great I have full screens for both
Liftback would make it appealing purchase
My g25 2012 journey make me feels like am sexy when am driving if Infiniti got sum better am feel like a model ❤❤❤
Bought an i500 instead, haven't looked back. This lexus is an absolute machine
different league bro love both but the Lexus is a whole monster compared to the q
The center stack is fine, the complaints are just talk fill.
Don’t sleep on the Q50 Hybrid…has 405lbs torque and 360HP. If you have trouble finding the red sport, the Hybrid does 4.8s and is AWD
Q50 so cute ❤❤❤
As an owner of an AWD Q60 RS, I would NEVER buy them “new”. Buying these used is where it starts to make sense, CPO & low mileage is the way to go. For the asking price, the competition is fierce in the segment. If I didn’t own a VR30, I’d be in a B58 (M440i/M340i) without a doubt. Infiniti/Nissan failed to make ANY meaningful updates & improvements for this platform. It had a lot of potential, updating infotainment, transmission & steering would have yielded much more sales. The competitors (German) are always improving models vs Infiniti staying stale which is just sad tbh.
The 2018 and 2021 Q50 RS's I leased new had sale prices of $45k. Can't beat that ;)
@@StlPike2004those deals still going on?
@@StlPike2004oh hello! That’s a great deal 👌
I think the base 300hp 3.0 is good enough.
Meeeee tooooo!
I have the 300 hp one and I want 400 😂
@@kyoaklandbro put JB4
Great engine but you're so close to the Lexus IS500 with that throbbing V8....
I just bought a 2013 G37 for 11k… so I’m good 😎😎😁😁😁😁
Prefer the two door Q60 red sport, looks much better.
Wait, they still sell the Q50? I haven't seen one of these in years!
Is this one comes with axle back infiniti exhaust?
Yo, hold up $60,000. I see them online for fucking 30,000 like whaaaaaaat
What is considered a good deal on a lease
You keep saying it’s dated as if everyone can afford brand new cars every other month…..I’m coming from a 94 Toyota, that thing is the future compared to my shitbox
I like my Q50redsport
The lease payments are very attractive compared to its competition!
Q50 still look nice it may be old but it still nice. I might not keep my 2019 q50 i might trade it in for m4 g82.
60k Audi bmw acura benz Lexus 250 hp . Infinity 400hp 60k . If your looking for speed
I think they over designed it in 2014 and now they are kinda stuck lol it’s an awesome looking car still and I love it.
Most Excellent!!!
At the 1:50 angle, wife says it looks like a Yaris IA…
Some guy is gonna try to save up money and finance it at 21% apr and weld the rear diff to car meets
Spicy Altima
Not even close 😉
Does it have the same 'big energy'
@@trdrav4😑
I rather pick IS500 anytime 👍
At only a half a second slower, I think the standard 3.0t is the way to go.
i bought a used 2020 red sport with 18k on the miles for 38k. when i walked in the dealer and seen the price tag for a brand new one i laughed so loud. they on crack.
63k is insane for this old sedan lol , but I guess it still has some life in its cycle!
Except when I got my 2018 and 2021 Q50 RS's new, they were $45k. Got crazy deals though.
No thank you.. I mean for it to be 60k and have the same display as a nissan sentra 🤷
Been the same since 2014
long live the CD player!
Kinda sucks that Q50 is compared against Integra. Thought this class of car is more comparable to that of TLX, but I guess years of stagnation allowed lower tier models to catch up.
On the other hand... I get the fact that Integra Type S does punch above its weight class but... is it really worth that much money? is my doubt.
Would've been nice if Honda decided to make Euro R Accord revival and upgraded that to the new TLX type S like in the early 2000s at high $50K to high $60K price tag would've made much better sense... Honda definitely knows how to pull that off. Their product planning is just downright atrocious while Toyota/Lexus is just killing it in that department these days.
That's a great idea. In many ways the TLX Type S is the lineal successor to the Accord Euro R.
The Accord Euro Type S replaced the Euro R, and was rebadged as the TSX in America, then the TLX replaced the TSX.
@@TheBreakfastLover I really do miss the TSX and the wagon... I'm starting to think the real issue with the current Integra and Type S is indeed the namesake. If the current car was named as TSX successor or something different than Integra, I wouldn't bat an eye on its price and happily compared it against compact lux sedans.
LOL the Integra has no business being in the same conversation as this Infiniti.
Okay tlx type s?
the Integra Type S posted a faster track time than the Q50
@@KirkKreifels it would fare better but I think the IS/Q50 are still a cut above. We unfortunately don’t get the IS 500 here only up to the 350. We don’t have Acura here so if I had to choose I’d go Q50 over G70.
you right its almost as fast, 10k cheaper, way better looking exterior/interior, and will last twice as long lol
@@layne4376 Redsport is Infiniti's high-performance line. Stop pretending like it isn't.
If it has run flats....those tires ruin the ride and traction
Maybe they;l release an updated Q50 based off the new Z.
Always a nice car but needs an update stat! If they’re even keeping it…
What is Infinity doing? Are they trying to stay in business?
When the Q50 came out the Dead Sea was just getting sick
I got an 2017 q50 red sport with 35k on it
Here's my take on this: I don't think the Infiniti is a slouch in any department you've mentioned, compared to the other three cars. I'd definitely love one BUT the concern for me would be how hard it drops in resale value. That and it being a Nissan and their known issues with transmission and sensors would make me stay away. Lookswise, it's still a gorgeous and aggressive car but I agree that it looks outdated. I wouldn't be spending this much on this car given it's still the exact same car from 7 years ago. And this is how I feel about the GTR as well. I only hope Nissan doesn't allow the Z to suffer this same issue of becoming dated too. If I could afford any of the four, I'd go for the Lexus though.
Infiniti: " if it ain't broke don't fix it" They keep buying it will keep keep selling it as is
Would choose a Lexus IS....
The q50 is way more fun than the is. The base IS is really slow😂
@@naveenthemachine but far better looks, fit and finish
This video is about Infiniti’s highest optioned car… not a base model. IS500 would be what you’d have to compare to a red sport
I'm not going to spend that kind of money for power I will probably never need. So starting a vid with a 0-60 run does little or nothing to excite me.
That said, it definitely is a sharp looking car. Spot on catch on those chrome door handles.
I didn't know where to slot in the 0-60 🤣
@@KirkKreifels Today Automotive Manufacturers are pushing horsepower and 0-60 times like gangbusters. It's their new hook to load up the cash flow. Same way they suckered me into buying my 428 cj Mach 1, Stang back in 1970. The more things change...
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Looks like you're driving down 41 in Fort Myers lmao!
Nissan could have learn from Dodge charger…they should put their most powerful engines 600 hp and up… The chargers/challengers that saves Dodge.
I used to have an '18 Q50 AWD Red Sport that looked identical to this one (other than having bright chrome instead of black chrome, which it should have had all along, IMO) and I agree it is a gorgeous car in the metal, although it looks a bit contrived and overwrought from some angles...overall though it has aged well. But I bought mine as a CPO for $39k (+TTL) and at that price back in 2019, I would say it was a pretty decent buy. At $63K, not a chance. I would not buy it again, I'd rather admire it from a distance as my experience with the car was not the greatest. The interior is nice but the only standout feature is the excellent front seats. Design, materials, performance and NVH are all well below the standard bearers for the class. It was a matter of mere months before I started to have the itch to get rid of it for something else and finally sold it last year and bought something far more enjoyable ('22 Model 3P). I do still think it looks good, though. It's too bad Infiniti didn't take it more seriously, if they had, I might still be driving it.
I think the Lexus IS looks better.
Over-Priced or not, the buyer has to decide. I like the design of the Car but I would not pay this money for it.
Dude Lexus or Acura any day over this
It’s still a good looking car, the price is just a tad to high!
Poor infiniti, still struggling.
Well Lexus is struggling too. They too are unable to compete with the best in the segment
They better hurry up with the new QX80.
@faheemabbas3965 Also, they should've rolled out with a new Q50 years ago, lol
There also a luxury brand most of us out here are poor and cant afford 60k cars
Keeping the old interior, exterior, engine and still charging the BMWm340i price is just so disgusting.
Agreed! I got rid of my Infiniti q50RS and leased me a 23 bmw x3M. I love it!
@@Mr.Lambert777I read a lot of complaints of the X3M very stiff ride
@@Mr.Lambert777BMW is a great car for 30k miles.
Well….. it’s a performance SUV. The ride is going to be stiff ,because it’s a high-performance SUV. I love stiff ride. I am a sporty guy enthusiast. If I wanted a softer ride I will get the regular model.. that’s just my two cents on it.
@@MikeYurbasovich what do you mean by that?? if you’re saying that it won’t last over 30,000 miles then we have a problem , because There are a plethora of BMWs out there with over a 100,000 miles ,and still running good it’s all about how you maintain and upkeep the vehicle..that goes for any vehicle. A person who has never owned a bmw , how would they know it won’t last over 30K miles.? I suggest anyone who buys a luxury card to get it brand new like I did; that way they can have a sense of relief knowing that the car never been dogged out and neglected with maintenance service.
Ppl really out here paying over 60k for a car that’s been in the market for like 10 years now 😂😂😂
G70 interior isn’t just as good as the q50’s. It’s wayyy better! Ventilated seats, heads up display, bigger infotainment screen, physical buttons for heated steering wheel & seat climate, diamond stitch leather, microsuede headliner and more!
I wanted one of these but the interior made me cringe when I test drove it..
The Q50 should have the Q70 interior.
Why it sounds like that
All they need to do was update it and throw 6spd in them and called it a day but naw...basically could of saved Infiniti
My 3.0 premium q50 does a 4.8 Stock. A red sport 400 isn't worth the money.
Leave it to Nissan/Infiniti to put a 2010 Accord infotainment in a $60k 2023 sports car lol. Do people still buy Nissans/Infiniti? So ancient, ugly, and unreliable lol
Buy a 1 year old M340i and be better in every capacity
Nissan is broke. Especially Infiniti. It’s why we haven’t seen an R36 yet. They’re trying to get lost money back with sales of their SUVs and Trucks.
Infiniti has to hurry up with introducing the next QX80, the spy shots are already out there, so it’s going to happen. It’s just a matter of when.
White Interior in a few years will look grey.