Which Of The Faction Battleships Are Worth It? [Tech VIII Analysis] || EVE Echoes

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  • Опубликовано: 17 янв 2025
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  • @coldlogic800
    @coldlogic800 3 года назад +5

    I've run 3 faction BS for quite some time. Back then a 5.6B machariel was expensive. I've since added a Bhaalgorn and a Nightmare to the stable. The Bhaalgorn is the real killer...

  • @maxperilous5944
    @maxperilous5944 4 года назад +10

    Phantasm phantasm phantasm... NIGHTMARE! Lol. Intergalactic version of duck duck goose?

    • @voxxel
      @voxxel 4 года назад +6

      @@ConcussedGaming Ships are just tools! You still need a good pilot.

    • @ill54
      @ill54 4 года назад

      Did he really call the Rattlesnake Scorpion in the time stamps?

  • @jasonb3908
    @jasonb3908 4 года назад +16

    I'll take, "Ships I'll Never Fly" for $1000, Alex.

    • @txmale1977
      @txmale1977 4 года назад +2

      Just wait till Capitals and Titans come in

    • @johnmad9587
      @johnmad9587 4 года назад +2

      I can’t wait to see the first titan kill

    • @micfail2
      @micfail2 4 года назад +1

      The developers have already said that there will be no Titans or super Caps at any point.

    • @micfail2
      @micfail2 4 года назад +1

      @@captainbenzie people in my corp told me that they had said it on discord but after you asked I went and looked and I could not find it so I now think that I was given and sharing bad information. Sorry about that

  • @mfj1985
    @mfj1985 4 года назад +25

    Not once did you call the "Nightmare" its correct name lol, well maybe once.

    • @think4181
      @think4181 4 года назад +4

      If you liked the phantasm, then the phantasm [nightmare] is the ship for you.

  • @luckyx9808
    @luckyx9808 4 года назад +3

    Can you do a vid on how you make your isk?

  • @voxxel
    @voxxel 4 года назад +3

    I mean losing a faction cruiser hurts a lot! But losing this just terminates all feelings + the universe. I am excited to see the first killmails soon.

  • @rayknight5825
    @rayknight5825 4 года назад +1

    Thanks for the informative content. Learning so much with your helpful videos.😄

  • @JZ-zy8jn
    @JZ-zy8jn 4 года назад +2

    Do you plan to post pvp hunting videos? Would be nice watching your skills using different ships.

  • @christopheryoder8292
    @christopheryoder8292 4 года назад +3

    Fleet battles with the bhaals are gonna be fun

  • @marbinkennethbalagat5494
    @marbinkennethbalagat5494 4 года назад +1

    Where can I buy Rattlesnake? :D

  • @Silfren
    @Silfren 4 года назад

    T9 is still a way off but any chance you can give some advice on the more 'affordable' t9 battleships? Which one should we prep for?

  • @trophywolfe
    @trophywolfe 4 года назад

    With the bhaalgorn you need to use the attributes as possibilities. The energy stuff can shut down ships that get too close rather than have to get up close to target. Large beams have insane range.

  • @dach829
    @dach829 4 года назад +2

    These are great to solo roam in null 🏴‍☠️

  • @anthonyb248
    @anthonyb248 4 года назад +2

    Great job Excoundrel!!!
    I mean.... Benzie!! Hahaha jk brother this is a great video!!!

  • @morandavalos
    @morandavalos 4 года назад +5

    Rattlesnake ❤️

  • @tomgreen8246
    @tomgreen8246 3 года назад

    What are your thoughts now, 3 months later, purely for pvp?

    • @tomgreen8246
      @tomgreen8246 3 года назад

      @@captainbenzie yeah I agree, a few people I have heard are saying it can't take down a Nightmare though.
      Random question - how do you go about getting access to Formination?

  • @casedreamer
    @casedreamer 4 года назад +2

    Rattlesnake still going to be my end goal.

  • @eternalechoesgaming4972
    @eternalechoesgaming4972 4 года назад

    Are you going to do a video on the T8 industry ships?

    • @blugill2273
      @blugill2273 3 года назад

      laugh in industries at this date 😮

  • @bartoszm84
    @bartoszm84 4 года назад +1

    in Eve Online those ships were a lot cheaper, i mean really LOT cheaper. When i was playing, Crusiers were going for 5m isk, BC for 25-30, BS like Raven for 100m and Rokh or Hyperion for 150m. Faction battleships for 400-1b where Rattlesnake was one of cheapest and Bhaalgorn one of most expensive (mainly for blueprint). From capital ships for 1b u could buy Thanatos carrier and 4-5b for Naglfar or Nyx dreadnought. For around 25b u had motherships like Nyx or Hel and for 60-70b titans like Erebus or Avatar. Mineral requirements i Eve Echoes is crazy BUT they really should stop giving back ships for free after every lose. And yes isk / hour was kinda simmilar to what we got here.

  • @gkhellas3577
    @gkhellas3577 4 года назад

    hello captain , one question where can find faction debris?

    • @gkhellas3577
      @gkhellas3577 4 года назад

      @@captainbenzie thank you captain :)

  • @razordaze
    @razordaze 4 года назад

    it may be worth mentioning that the "PVE Fast Way" ship reimbursement will NOT apply to tech 8 ships and above, so there's additional risk even if you're using one of these luxury yachts exclusively in "safe" PVE.

    • @leverloos
      @leverloos 4 года назад

      They don't apply to faction ships either.

    • @johnmad9587
      @johnmad9587 4 года назад +1

      Honestly if you die in pve with a faction battleship you should rethink using battleships... not saying the players bad but come on now

    • @razordaze
      @razordaze 4 года назад

      @@leverloos that could be a recent change, but they've definitely resurrected more than one Can Yues for me personally, as well as corpmates' faction frigs.

    • @razordaze
      @razordaze 4 года назад

      @@johnmad9587sure, a pilot may be highly skilled AND extra sleepy, amirite?

  • @cstylez5982
    @cstylez5982 4 года назад

    The new update for the rattlesnake is upping it's role bonus it will be 500% damage at level 5 tech

  • @graysoncramer5474
    @graysoncramer5474 4 года назад +2

    Now that he said Balg will be the least popular it’s going to be the most popular

    • @joace9970
      @joace9970 4 года назад +1

      Hey bro. This is JoAce99. Reverse psychology eh XD

  • @garbonomics
    @garbonomics 4 года назад

    Just took a Bhaalgorn in my Nightmare! Definitely annoying as hell with that cap drain but the battery helped me outlast him.

    • @whatis112-s2i
      @whatis112-s2i 4 года назад +2

      Then it wasn't a very well fitted bhaalgorn. Bhaalgorn kills your capacitor in 5 cycles, or like 2-3 minutes. Then, you have no resists so its lasers shred your shields. Meanwhile the bhaalgorn is repping like 2000 ehp per second. Also be careful with you nightmare!!! you shouldn't be soloing an enemy battleship at any time

    • @garbonomics
      @garbonomics 4 года назад

      @@whatis112-s2i you’re either thinking of a very inexperienced pilot or someone who does not know how to use a Nightmare. It’s only one of the very few Battleships I’d ever actually use for a 1v1 against another BS. And a Bhaalgorn will not drain you in 5 cycles. Not sure what poor nightmare fits you’ve seen people using.

    • @whatis112-s2i
      @whatis112-s2i 4 года назад

      @@garbonomics the nightmare's only weakness is lack of capacitor. Bhaalgorn just hard counters nightmare, without question. Also, it's not 5 cycles, it's more like 7, but still

  • @SergeySagan
    @SergeySagan 4 года назад

    Would love to see a "How to kill an Ashimmu" video

    • @SergeySagan
      @SergeySagan 4 года назад

      @@captainbenzie Sure, but that's maybe how to not die from an Ashimmu... as soon as he/she sees that they can't catch up to you, they will likely run... is there a way to kill one 1vs1?

  • @jfw7900
    @jfw7900 4 года назад

    Your video is a bit too early. They just announced some balance changes for the Nov 11th update. Vindicator is getting a small damage buff but a big web range bonus nerf.

  • @ren19999
    @ren19999 4 года назад

    Cap rattlesnake or nigthmare for pve, wich is the Best? JUST FOR PVE XD

    • @ren19999
      @ren19999 4 года назад

      @@captainbenzie Yes, i want one rattle or a nigthmare just to do missions thx for the advice btw :p

  • @CerbreusSleeps
    @CerbreusSleeps 4 года назад

    Why do you keep saying Phantasm? It's called a nightmare right?

  • @gyuhara9489
    @gyuhara9489 4 года назад

    Imagen rattlesnake using sentry drone... That the real drone sniper ship

  • @basilerobin129
    @basilerobin129 4 года назад

    Really powerful ships but not invicible... some people are gonna find it the hard way if they decide to solo roam null. I love the Phantasm and would like nothing more than getting my hands on a Nightmare. But the cost of losing it is just too steep for me at the moment while a bit of farming gets you rather quickly to a faction cruiser.
    The Snake might get even more love once they get those faction drones out. Have they announced anything on the subject by the way?
    And thanks again for a very informative video Captain. Wonder what you will be flying next as except for those Interceptors (which are going to be pretty expensive as well), we are getting mostly big or very big ships.

    • @basilerobin129
      @basilerobin129 4 года назад

      @@captainbenzie Damn waiting on that then. I still have my Worm in the hangar... though might have to rethink the fit a bit with the nerf on rapids coming up

  • @happyeggroll5267
    @happyeggroll5267 4 года назад

    I got the isk to make one. Silly me only purchased basic sub last month. 29 more days. Guess it's a good mistake as I'll get to fight a couple before I buy one and and learn from that. Don't want to be that guy 😅

  • @sir_kettle3858
    @sir_kettle3858 4 года назад

    Hi which ships are best for anomaly’s
    Tech level 6 and below and under 500k isk

    • @whatis112-s2i
      @whatis112-s2i 4 года назад

      caracal navy issue imo. You can probably get a full c-type fit on it under 500k
      5 rapids, red shield, shield booster, afterburner, capacitor battery, two webs, one nosferatu.
      for engineering slots t2 warp core optimizer, and aux thrusters
      for combat rigs one calef one bay loading, third is tanking rig, your choice.
      very standard CNI fit that I got gila with in 10 days. You can do deadspaces with the aid of a battlecruiser
      the strat with this is to orbit the closest ship at max weapon range for anoms you can't facetank. For ones that you can just orbit them at nos range.

    • @andreaslundgren624
      @andreaslundgren624 4 года назад

      @@whatis112-s2i there is no way you can get that for 500k. More like 500M.

    • @christopheryoder8292
      @christopheryoder8292 4 года назад

      probably something like the condor or condor 2. something that you speedtank.

    • @christopheryoder8292
      @christopheryoder8292 4 года назад

      or if you are omega then caracal trainer which means the hull is free and you can spend the isk on modules. I was able to push the range out to 40km and could solo t8 large guristas. you can start off lower with just an ab, sb, and web. Key is warp in at range and not on the warp in because it will get real hairy real quick.

    • @machine8387
      @machine8387 4 года назад

      @@christopheryoder8292 agreed with using trainer ships...personally; I started in the omen, because it has the biggest capacitor and potential for housing a large shield booster while using missiles. Before working your way up to tech 7: consider buying a Maller, Moa, or Vexor trainer...and keeping them for adventuring into null.

  • @stuntjohn1556
    @stuntjohn1556 4 года назад

    Having preference and skills in lasers and armour, it is looking like the Bhaalgorn for me, though conceivably I could choose any as large weapons and battleship skills are all at 0 and just under 2 weeks to tech 8 to fully decide where to invest skills. Still a good insight though, I am sure there will be many suggestions over the coming 2 weeks.

  • @koruin77uk
    @koruin77uk 4 года назад

    Well in 3 days I'll invent Bhaalgorn bpc...i knew im on the right track 😁

  • @CharlesWakefield
    @CharlesWakefield 4 года назад +1

    I just paid for the BP. DM me if you need to borrower any ship for a video.

  • @starplayer351
    @starplayer351 4 года назад

    I have a bhaalghorn fully fitted with everything c type... i want to do test with it to see it’s limits

  • @Cloudfreaks
    @Cloudfreaks 4 года назад

    Macharielllllllllllllll 😍😍😍

  • @CerbreusSleeps
    @CerbreusSleeps 4 года назад

    BUT WHY ISN'T CALLED A SCORPION lol I like your explanation but it will remain a thorn.

  • @whatis112-s2i
    @whatis112-s2i 4 года назад +1

    who cares about the low tanking slots on bhaalgorn. Fit two neuts, three nos, suck them, and they'll have NO tanking slots

    • @graysoncramer5474
      @graysoncramer5474 4 года назад

      Yes but In echos you don’t need capacitor to warp you will most likely not make it all the way to your destination but you can still get out.

    • @whatis112-s2i
      @whatis112-s2i 4 года назад +1

      @@graysoncramer5474 but you'll be pvping in a fleet. Its dumb to solo pvp in a faction battleship.

  • @RedwoodTheElf
    @RedwoodTheElf 4 года назад

    Battleships with drone tubes that CAN'T launch large drones? NO thanks.

  • @korgothofbarbaria2841
    @korgothofbarbaria2841 3 года назад

    None.. Risk reward ratio for this ships are so high that I see no point whatsoever to fly them.

  • @bbugger441
    @bbugger441 4 года назад

    Imagine spending 300$ just fpr a faction cruiser

    • @bbugger441
      @bbugger441 4 года назад

      @@captainbenzie yes you can earn it in game but for a solo player like myself i have been saving for 4weeks and am only half way to afford one lol. But yes its not so bad if you have friends or money.

    • @maxperilous5944
      @maxperilous5944 4 года назад

      MOAR ALTS!! lol. Seriously though. If you have 2 alts with retrievers and a mammoth to run back and forth. You can mine a fraction frig in one day. Call it two days if you can't put in a good 12 - 15 hrs in one play session lol.

    • @szhou8813
      @szhou8813 4 года назад

      @@bbugger441 go to null sec. it’s ez to make isk here. You can earn enough to buy faction cruiser in a day.

  • @cannibalgaming1714
    @cannibalgaming1714 3 года назад

    Im not scared of ships im scared of Chinese playing with 5g internet. 😂😂

  • @xxdx2928
    @xxdx2928 4 года назад

    If you were enlightened by benzie's information on rig slots..... i despise you

  • @Heimatar
    @Heimatar 2 года назад

    Nightmare lmao

  • @instantnoodlesgaming3559
    @instantnoodlesgaming3559 4 года назад +3

    12 minutes ago wow i am early

  • @hiddengameseekerlp1786
    @hiddengameseekerlp1786 4 года назад +2

    wow first comment again

    • @Yaturu
      @Yaturu 4 года назад +2

      I dont care we dont care

    • @Yaturu
      @Yaturu 4 года назад +1

      Being first means nothing

    • @Something911p93
      @Something911p93 4 года назад +2

      I care lol

    • @Yaturu
      @Yaturu 4 года назад

      I know u will think that im being bad and thwy just reminded that NO ONE CARES OKAY

    • @johnmad9587
      @johnmad9587 4 года назад +2

      We do since we are commenting on it