In Conversation: Former President Ma Ying-jeou of the Republic of China (Taiwan)

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  • Опубликовано: 29 сен 2024
  • The U.S.-Asia Law Institute hosts Ma Ying-jeou (LLM ‘76) in conversation with USALI founder and Director Emeritus Jerry Cohen. He will talk about the complicated relationships among Taiwan, the People’s Republic of China and the United States.
    Ma Ying-jeou was president of the Republic of China (Taiwan) from 2008-2016, winning two elections as a candidate for the Nationalist (Kuomintang) Party. As president and since, he has prioritized easing tensions between Taiwan and the People’s Republic of China. He visited China in March 2023, the first former president to do so since 1949. Before becoming president, Mr. Ma was mayor of Taipei, minister of justice, and a representative to Taiwan’s National Assembly. He studied law at National Taiwan University, and earned an LLM at New York University and an SJD from Harvard University.

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  • @clee1347
    @clee1347 11 месяцев назад +20

    I think some Americans need to look at themselves seriously in the mirror before they criticise other people.

  • @PahatRout
    @PahatRout 11 месяцев назад +12

    Basically, even the US convener implied that when China evolves she must follow the US's definition of governance. And that is the problem!

  • @hongqi5734
    @hongqi5734 11 месяцев назад +12

    The people in the US also can't influence their government or make them heed their advice or demands. If they could, the Iraq War and so many other wars wouldn't have happened.

  • @itsme2be
    @itsme2be 10 месяцев назад +5

    The KMT and President Ma are consistent and clear about the status quo. The ideal should be that peaceful reunification of both sides can be achieved when the mainland achieves parity with the Taiwan region by introducing political and legal reforms. Taipei should set the introduction of liberal democracy and rule of law on the mainland as a precondition for peaceful reunification.

  • @hondohavlicek5252
    @hondohavlicek5252 11 месяцев назад +5

    The remarks from the Taiwan student was so poorly presented - no one could understand him.

    • @charlierp
      @charlierp 11 месяцев назад

      I was able to understand him, more specifically, in his second rendition of the question, but Ma, apparently fobbed off the question.

  • @desmondho9567
    @desmondho9567 11 месяцев назад +9

    President Ma, was born in HONGKONG, yet he can become the President of ROC Taiwan.❤❤.
    So, don't look at just one tree 🌳, look at a bigger picture, the larger forest.❤❤❤❤.

  • @jmt9107
    @jmt9107 11 месяцев назад +12

    Amazingly honest, courageous and heroic. 寳刀未老,I salute younPresident Ma.

  • @markshwang6967
    @markshwang6967 11 месяцев назад +12

    Humanity is based on empathy and peace. US politicians are going against humanity.

  • @eddyg4742
    @eddyg4742 11 месяцев назад +15

    I respect President Ma for how he always says Mandarin words when speaking English, not just in the Chinese Mandarin way of pronunciations, but also in the tones.
    I've always wondered why when we say french words we say it the French way. But when we pronounce Chinese terms, they are done in the English way.
    Even many chinese speakers / news reporters do the same. I think Chinese words should be pronounced the right way and let english speakers realise and learn the correct way of pronunciations.
    Just like French, Italian ect, words sound elegant when spoken in the correct native way. Though I must say we still get many of them wrong, just not as bad as we do with Mandarin words.

  • @howardleekilby7390
    @howardleekilby7390 11 месяцев назад +5

    ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

  • @劣幣會驅逐良幣會吵的
    @劣幣會驅逐良幣會吵的 10 месяцев назад +1

    Real academic, real politics,
    Not entertainment news or show here.

  • @eddycheng7441
    @eddycheng7441 11 месяцев назад +2

    👎👎👎👎👎

  • @Lovepeace595
    @Lovepeace595 10 месяцев назад

    ROC and PRC are different countries, ROC is 112 years-old, PRC is just only 70 years-old. USA and UK also can't say them to be one country, because their bloodline. Ma's popularity is less than 9% on Taiwan, he can't represent all TW people, he just confuse all people in the world. If Ma want to go to China mainland, We are welcome, he took Chiang Ching-Kuo's cultivation 40 years ago, Ma should bring TW's democracy and human rights to PRC, glow up the spirit of KMT. Until today, many ture facts just tell us CCP is not civilized political power for people, it just want to get more power. Ma is just a smoke.

  • @layscientificClarity
    @layscientificClarity 4 месяца назад

    God of Justice, Professor Jerome A Cohen, may you always be healthy, democracy is very weak in Asia🇲🇨👍

  • @fsy5587
    @fsy5587 10 месяцев назад

    Economist magazine quote Ma as a bumbler..he's got only 10%of supporting rate when he stepped down.

  • @Lovepeace595
    @Lovepeace595 10 месяцев назад

    馬英九應該多想想蔣經國的栽培跟遺訓 而不是拿模糊的92共識換取他個人的政治聲量 他個人的發言也不代表中華民國全體 馬英九的言論跟蔣經國的遺志 是完全背道而馳的

  • @hondohavlicek5252
    @hondohavlicek5252 11 месяцев назад +3

    老人家唸稿,小馬哥不再。

  • @xkioulaa
    @xkioulaa 11 месяцев назад +1

    👏👏👏

  • @myhh-vo2rr
    @myhh-vo2rr 11 месяцев назад +3

    Ma's speech was basically nothing more than attacking the current Taiwan administration. He is so unpopular in Taiwan now that he had to come to the US to find people who are willing to listen.
    He refused to attend the National Day celebration because Taiwan President Tsai called it National Day of Taiwan instead of National Day of Republic of China. I was surprised he didn't jump up to correct Cohen when he referred Tsai as President of Taiwan.

  • @弘历爱新觉罗
    @弘历爱新觉罗 11 месяцев назад +4

    马英九先生学贯中西,博学多才,华人骄傲❤

  • @danzwku
    @danzwku 11 месяцев назад +3

    Should have asked: "You have referred to Xi Jinping as "President" & have referred to the other side as the PRC 🇨🇳. How do you feel about the fact that they now refuse to refer to you as a former President, & don't reciprocate the respect of referring you as the ROC 🇹🇼?"

    • @atky7032
      @atky7032 11 месяцев назад

      They will refer Ma as president… in your dreams…

    • @danzwku
      @danzwku 11 месяцев назад

      @@atky7032 as it is in your dreams that the Taiwanese would ever refer to whatever commie leader of the illegitimate regime as president lol

    • @alexdeng2418
      @alexdeng2418 11 месяцев назад +1

      Because both sides of the strait cannot accept the concept of Two Chinas by their constitutions. Actually when ROC government leader meets with PRC government leader, PRC government leader is also referred to as “Mr.” instead the “President”. Didn’t you get that?

    • @Time4Peace
      @Time4Peace 10 месяцев назад

      Under UN, Taiwan is not a country but a province/part of China. So PRC has it's reason to not consider recognising having 2 presidents in the country. Under ROC's constitution, Xi should also not be recognised as a President. In diplomacy, we need to understand rationale on both sides. But these are not key issue. The key issue of Ma's talk is how to navigate cross strait relations diplomatically for Taiwan to enjoy the status quo of defacto independence and economic prosperity and avoiding war. In war, both Taiwan and China will suffer grievously. Given the China-US tension, Taiwan should avoid being tragic pawn of geopolitics.

    • @danzwku
      @danzwku 10 месяцев назад

      Taiwan is not a province or part of China in the UN, the PRC would like you to believe that, and if you do, you've been fooled.

  • @danzwku
    @danzwku 11 месяцев назад +3

    What former President Ma is deluding himself here about is that that is how the PRC views the 1992 consensus. You can't just say the KMT views it as One China "respective interpretations" when the PRC doesn't accept that.

    • @atky7032
      @atky7032 11 месяцев назад +6

      Doesn’t matter how PRC perceive it, peace is better for Taiwan. Ma knows how to keep peace.

    • @danzwku
      @danzwku 11 месяцев назад

      @@atky7032 ur right, it doesn't matter how PRC perceive it, because it's not their property, none of their business.

    • @atky7032
      @atky7032 11 месяцев назад

      @@danzwku but you don’t have choice to think like this. PRC did not allow you guys, the Taiwanese to think like that. You guys are also not in a good position to think like that.
      The US is weakening, Taiwan is weakening. The future of the world will be China’s future. The CCP now is a very smart government (not like the one 20-50 years ago), they are not too concerned with the US stirring up conflicts. China can wait.

    • @Zhengc
      @Zhengc 11 месяцев назад +6

      According to the Constitution of ROC and PRC Taiwan is a part of China, so your argument that Taiwan is not property of China is invalid. I agree that keeping the 1992 consensus and keeping the status quo is best for both sides, but the way Tsai Ying Wen’s administration behaved for the last few years is pretty hard for PRC not to be more hostile towards her administration. In other words, Tsai killed the 1992 consensus.

    • @danzwku
      @danzwku 11 месяцев назад

      so much ignorance in the comments I don't think it's worth the time.....but ugh

  • @chunlee6365
    @chunlee6365 11 месяцев назад +3

    The Economist had it right (Nov 17. 2012) that Ma Ying-jeou is a bumpler when it comes to economics. Politically, he harbored the dream of his father that Taiwan will eventually be reunited with China, a policy that less than 10 % of today's Taiwanese want. He fooled Taiwanese when he needed their votes for the presidency that he is a "real new Taiwanese who would die with Taiwan". After he became the president and after retiring from the presidency, he revealed real intention is to reunite Taiwan with China by basically disarming Taiwan.

  • @tanpengjoo7205
    @tanpengjoo7205 11 месяцев назад +3

    Ma borned in hong kong but live luxuriously in Taiwan but never speak for Taiwanese rather speaks for c c p he should go retire in china

    • @scy3894
      @scy3894 11 месяцев назад +1

      Borned? Since it’s Chinese province he probably is going to retire in China.

  • @danzwku
    @danzwku 11 месяцев назад +3

    Should have asked:
    "You claim that your approach to cross strait relations is superior, but how do you explain that the PLA built replicas of your own Presidential Building to train their troops how to invade it during your administration?"

    • @atky7032
      @atky7032 11 месяцев назад +9

      you don't know Chinese history enough to comment. Read up a bit more first.

    • @danzwku
      @danzwku 11 месяцев назад

      Nice try.

    • @shencheanglow3726
      @shencheanglow3726 11 месяцев назад +1

      Why don't you ask what the use of setting up police forces? There is no crime today, yesterday,

  • @GaryLa585
    @GaryLa585 11 месяцев назад +10

    Mr. Ma is a traitor.

    • @hongqi5734
      @hongqi5734 11 месяцев назад

      You are the true traitor by following kissing the US butt. At least he is proud of his roots.

    • @Zhengc
      @Zhengc 11 месяцев назад +7

      He is not a traitor. 识时务者为俊杰。he is just more practical and knows that peace is better for the people of Taiwan and the Mainland China.

    • @albback8176
      @albback8176 11 месяцев назад +3

      ​@@Zhengcyes

    • @nealben
      @nealben 11 месяцев назад +7

      Ma is a very pragmatic political leader and I hope the next leader of Taiwan will resume the policies he started during his eight years in office to serve the best interests of people in Taiwan. Taiwan, after all, is a part of China, just as the United States and over 180 countries in the world acknowledge and recognize.

    • @RockinMountain
      @RockinMountain 11 месяцев назад

      Worst elected president in Taiwan’s history.