BREAKING NEWS: A White House Spokesperson says, "He's allowed to have Bad Nights", "incumbents have Bad Nights". According to the same spokesperson, Ace was also "suffering from a Cold".
I remember in the mid 2000's Gene and Shannon having their facelifts together. Even a photo of them together just before the surgeries were done with the lines drawn on their faces where the surgeons would nip and tuck. Gene came out of it looking even worse. I wonder if he got a refund?
I saw Ace last Friday in Marion Illinois. it was a strange show. He arrived 35 minutes late didn't thing he was going to show. he kept telling the soundman that his guitar was not loud then it got so loud it was over his vocals so he complained and belittled the sound man for 10 minutes. Told the light guy to shine spotlight on whoever was singing. then said to the crowd this isn't a nursing home its a rock show, took a drink of water and threw the glass bottle in the crowd twice saying this might wake you up. Then grabbed a can of silly string and sprayed it on the audience came back 3 more times but had canned smoke he was mad it wasn't silly string . His set list was pretty good opened with shock me ,played rocked rock several kiss cuts and 2 new cuts from the new album. it was great to see ace but a very strange show.
Why does he play all those Kiss songs that he didn't write, he has more solo albums than Gene and Paul combined yet hardly plays anything from them it's just a lot of Kiss stuff.
Being a member of the Kiss Army means you must endure the abuse from the drill sergeant. If it breaks you, then turn in your patch and go home to cry in your mother's arms. I've waited 50 years for Ace to pizz on me and I would gladly accept it if I were lucky enough to be in the front row of his show.
People sure do love to hate on Gene Simmons and heap praise on Ace and Peter. Ace and Peter had severe substance abuse issues. Just admit it people. It’s what it is
@@daveywavey1896and it doesn't make them any less idiotic to have pissed away such huge opportunities. Nothing respectable about being given gifts from the universe and setting them ablaze while behaving like a teenager.
Money, money, money, thats Gene,, as for Ace, you are right again my friend, yes he is surrounded by YES, people. And yet he's still my favourite member of KISS. Great show my friend, love listening!!🇦🇺
Yea Ace does it for free… he hasn’t had a moderately decent solo album since 1978. He has been riding the coattails of Kiss since he left. Please name me one band or anyone that doesn’t do it for the money.
Peter might not be bad mouthing anyone anymore but he didn't allow Paul and Gene to use "Beth" in that A&E propaganda last year. There is no love lost there.
@@theshield2207 They were asked to be in it for crap money. They didn't agree to Ace and Peter's terms. Ace just said use Archive footage then. It was a Paul and Gene documentary more then anything. The same old crap.
@@mr.brenman2132 i heard that too. But money is money and agreeing to that documentary they could have atleast gotten along and have had a bigger chance of them being invited to the last 2 shows that were at msg
@@theshield2207 Gene said they were invited to every show on the final tour which was a lie. They invited no one to the final shows. They didn't even invite Bruce.
Ace is Ace you know Ralph. I'm not denying all the really bad footage I've seen over the last several months on RUclips of him falling flat ect. I seen him June 28th at the Marion Civic Center in Marion Illinois and I have to say he sounded great he looked great. Nothing like the RUclips videos I've watched. He seemed recharged and rejuvenated. Granted he's in the 70s now. There is RUclips videos that had surfaced of that show. But I almost didn't go and I'm glad I went. Maybe we caught Ace on his better days.
I love Ace for what he played and how he looked in 1974- 1977 and the 1996 show. That's it. He didn't learn anything new on the guitar, and he didn't have to because people just hung on to the hero he was in the 70's.
Seeing the elder rock stars still hustling and gossiping about former bandmates is part and parcel of trying to keep up the lifestyle they took for granted in the good old days. They have to earn the big bucks to pay for the real estate, the cars, the staff, the alimony, the manager, etc. The tough econmics hits them just as hard if not harder. Some bow out gracefully and live comfortably within their means, others not so much - their name and talent becomes an expendable commodity while their bodies and minds wear out trying to keep up.
Sounds like possibly the overhead is WAY lower, so while the gross might be lower, he takes home more in his pocket from having less people to pay, less moving parts. I think it's a stretch, but it's possible.
Ace Frehley has not improved as a guitar player since the 70s. He had a great style that fit the early KISS, but once the 80s rolled around he stopped improving. He was no match for the "shredders" of that era. He was simply living off his name as the former lead guitarist of KISS. I think all these guys like him, Guns And Roses, Crue, Sebastion Bach, Joe Biden... should just call it a day already. None of them can play anymore.
If you ask me, one guitar player from the 80s that would blowout Ace and still can would be Jake E Lee. He's a very well rounded musician. Jake can write songs and is awesome on guitar. Gene and Paul should have hired him when Ace left. Jake is a monster on guitar and he doesn't use drugs. He always practiced martial arts, so that would have been a colossal boost for the band. Jake's only issue is he doesn't sing. But has Bruce ever sang a song on stage? Never. Only the one song on COS. Had KISS returned to the non makeup band, maybe Bruce would have sung it.
Obviously Gene, Paul, even Ace to an extent never hear the lyrics from My Generation by The Who when Roger Daltry sang 'Hope I die before I get old'. No, I'm not wishing for their demise. But the only smart member would have to be Peter. He did his time. Now he's living a quiet life and doesn't need to live off his past with KISS trying to impress anyone. He's the only original member I admire the most.
I agree, Ace should be playing his original tunes. I feel his setlist should look like 1. Stranger In A Strange Land 2. Insane 3. Hard Times 4. Space Invader 5. I'm in need of love 6. Rip It Out 7. Shock Me 8. Rocket Ride 9. Into The Night 10. Snow Blind 11. Get Away 12. Cold Gin 13. Strange Ways 14. Speeding Back To My Baby 15. Trouble Walking (But sing "I have trouble talking") hahaha But lets face it, "Ace is pretty much washed up these days. But I still own all his great recordings.
@@O_homem_que_ri I agree with "Parasite" He did a great cover with the "2000 Man" tune. But I could go the rest of my life without hearing "New York Groove" live. Studio version is fine but if he's hell bent on doing a Russ Ballard tune, I'd much rather hear him playing "Into The Night" But again, as poor as he plays these days, I wouldn't go to see him at a Free Venue..
I like Ace talking in between songs. He's always done it. Put it this way: Some bands are ALL business, no chatter at all. Get in, get out...Ace makes the show more personal & interesting.
Gene is doing his usual self promotion and ego inflating. I wouldn't be surprised if he really has figured a way to make more money now than in the end of Kiss. As for Ace wow, his opiated cherry medicine and benzo's cocktail is taking a serious toll on him. Sad Ace could be so much more, but soon he will have finished his own career with more of the same trainwrecks. Ace get help, fr
He's definitely benzo'd up and yes I'm sure some hydros are there in that mix...wash em down with a beer or cold gin and BOOM you have a slurred up paul frehley
Gene Simmons is (as usual) full of himself. Whatever GS (or PS) makes outside of the KISS sellout to Pophouse is separate of that deal. In-reality it's 'chump-change' to what KISS made when the Gene and Paul show had control of the KISS brand. That's over now and GS is simply trying to make more lucre off of what he once owned.
Too Gene doesn’t show up with actual musical talent. He’s a good businessman, but if he didn’t have legitimate musicians propping him up he’d be screwed on stage.
It's funny because Ace' next show in Woodstock GA was on point. My brother went, and I told him not to expect much because of the Orlando show footage, and Ace made me look like a liar. 😂
Umm yeah you're probably right about the Ace show. In my life I just can't stand the rambling nonsensical conversations anymore. I did it myself for so many years. I just don't have time for the bullshit anymore. In the show you mentioned, Ace sounds EXACTLY like the supposedly "good times" that actually weren't. Call me a judgmental old shit. I don't give a fuck.
Why is everybody always on Gene's ass for making loads of scratch? Apparently many people are so enlightened that they are just turning down cash left and right. Well keep on sending it right...to me mahfs.
A dual competition between 2 guitar players was always my love from the start when 2 guitar players can share like it a friendly competitions in t really made me who I am today as a guitar player .
I was at the show at the Hard Rock in Orlando last week. This was my daughters first Ace show, after seeing Kiss 4 times on the End of the Road show, including the 2nd to last show in NYC. It was embarrassing. I have seen Ace 6 or 7 times over the last 10 years. None of them are perfect, but I always have had a great time. This show...I was worried about him. He kept leaning against Ryan for support, he almost fell over 2 or 3 times (and them shockingly did a leg kick with Jeremy later on LOL). He was forgetting what he was talking about, forgetting what songs they were going to play. My daughter kept asking me when it was going to end, and I was thinking to myself, not soon enough. There was a solo where he hit his open e string and it kept ringing out, drowning out his solo. It was all just so sloppy. Ryan, Jeremy and Scottie were tight, but once Ace got in the mix, it was a mess. The other thing that really surprised me was last time he played Hard Rock I had 2nd row for about $45 a seat. That show was so awesome. This time, those same seats were over $200. I knew what the show was going to be, no way I'm paying $200 a seat for that show. Hopefully that night was just an Anomaly for Ace. We all have off days, and I can't imagine being on the road and going through a breakup. Also, might be something about Orlando. He was a complete mess when Kiss played the Farewell tour here, but the next night in Tampa he was fine. I will always love the guy, and hearing about the breakup a day before the show I was kinda prepared for a bad show. But people need to be honest, that was a bad show. Hopefully it's not the last show I get to see, and the next one is great again.
Been an Ace fan since we stole the first KISS album back in '74 the day it came out. Love some off the 10,000 volts songs but Orlando show was bad. I tuned out of RUclips video about 2 minutes in. Pulled up some Midnight Special vids of Deuce, Cold Gin, Firehouse and got my Ace fix.
Honestly these days Peter may be my favourite member. The other 3 are unbearable while Peter has just been chilling for 20+ years not destroying his legacy unless I have missed something
KISS in their glam days. Saw that tour, at the time it didn't matter that much, now I see those Asylum pics and think, wow, KISS were dressing like the New York Dolls or something. Glad they snapped out of that.
KISS most definitely WERE NOT making $1,000,000 per show. They did a one-off for around that much, but that wasn't their every-show fee. NO ONE has done that for an entire tour.
@@The1WhoKnowsTheTruth Yeah I know. That's in their playbook to shut the conversation down so things aren't brought to light. When that $hit happens it's all you need to know.
@@vinceblak4425 Congrats on your intelligence. That race thinks they are the only ones with a brain. My Mom did not raise a fool. When I first got hit with the one way bullshit they sling I was shocked but now that I am older and wiser I just reply; “and you anti-Gentile.” This usually ends it fast.
Jesus Gene American bands have toured Europe, the East, and South America with the promoter providing instruments, backline, trans, and crew for DECADES. Even the smallest of cult and punk bands have toured this way for DECADES. And European bands tour North America the exact same way. Gene Simmons did not invent this touring model. Chuck Berry was touring with just his guitar FIFTY years ago. The promoter would supply local musicians in each city to back Chuck as well as backline for the band.
Just checked out the Ace Orlando video...had to stop half way through Shout it Out Loud..... I saw Ace on the Trouble Walking tour (peak Ace F'ed up) and yeah he was a mess but that Orlando show....holy balls it's worse than I could imagine.
Great show Ralph and I actually believe Gene when he says he makes more per show doing this solo stuff, as the KISS production was so huge and expensive that Paul automatically got the same as Gene, then paying Tommy, Eric and even manager Doc took a nice chunk right there, plus the road crew and the expenses of the pyro can't be cheap, so per show he's probably right, but KISS merchandise will forever be their bread and butter even without playing, as it will always be a goldmine. Love Ace, as he was my favorite back in the 70's, but with him wanting to come and go in the band as he pleases and with all his issues with drugs or alcohol, that ship sailed for me, although I still wish him the best and hopefully he's not back into drinking or drugs again, as it's hard enough to still perform in your 70's without being messed up. Ace talking crap about KISS at his shows will just piss off the hard core KISS fans and his shows will suffer in ticket sales eventually. Ace needs to just worry about his playing, putting on a great show and stop talking about his ex girlfriends and ex bandmates, because not many people actually care. Happy 4th of July Ralph and to all the Americans on here from your Canadian neighbor.
Matthew 16:26 26 For what is a man profited, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul? or what shall a man give in exchange for his soul?
Can't we just let these prehistoric hasbeens disappear into obscurity? People speak of them as if they're still relevant. Nothing new under the sun...same drama for decades.
When it comes to whether or not Gene is correct on making more money than KISS, I would say maybe his net take is more because of the costs KISS had when paying for a lot of things that maybe Gene doesn't pay now. I wouldn't think the gross pay is more. I would think it is less but also less costs so it might be true he's taking more pay doing solo tours. When it comes to Ace, I was amused watching that Orlando show and I saw it from start to finish and I thought it was funny how bad he played but then after a while it was getting boring like a joke told too may times. His solo on Cold Gin was almost a complete waste of time. I wouldn't pay to see him live now. The only member of KISS I would go see live now is Bruce Kulick.
I actually watched Ace's whole show from West Virginia a couple weeks ago and it was awesome! I know he can be hit and miss but that was a good show. I haven't watched Orlando yet but it sounds like a miss lol
With how much a KISS concert must cost I can believe that Gene pockets more money because it's not wrapped up in paying for all the expenses of a Broadway Level staged show and what it takes to pull it off.
Ace needs to RETIRE it's not because he's not doing his music enough... that because it's really not that good... I really can't believe people spend 💰 2..C..him he's DONE go home and B ah grandpa...he's ah JOKE now🤘✌
MY KISS STORY I was 10 years old. My friend pulled out a KISS album. All I knew was the one TV song I'd seen with the fire and the blood and the smoke and the make up.... He plays Love Gun, and Dr. Love. "OH MAN THAT THAT WAS BAD ASS!", I said. Then he says, "Wait check this out.." Puts on VH's ERUPTION. 46 years later and I've still never gave a damn about a KISS song.😂😂😂
He is from Planet Jendel, and he never got it together with gravity here on Earth. The Cosmic Rays are heavy in Florida this time of year. Space Invader!
I remember in Chuck Berry's movie Hail, Hail Rock & Roll that he did get in his Cadillac w/a Gibson ES-335. Not too sure about what Gene's saying is true. 🤷♂️
@@ShockMe1994 Exactly, everyone who says he's still got it is absolutely blinded by nostalgia. Ace is dreadful now and anyone with no attachment to him can see that.
Yo Ralph. What I like about you are the honesty of what you put to the table. Ace has become too sloppy even in recording. I listen to a RUclips channel called: "The Art of Guitar" He called out after listening to "10000 Volts" Autotune? And copy / paste the solo, because he tried to play the guitar afterwards and found within the solo lick "jumps" that just didn't work. I love Ace too, but I only listen to the new record, once....
Supposedly, and he said it on his show, Ed Trunk talked Ace down "off the ledge" about throwing dirt on Paul. IDK. I can see Ace ready to throw Paul under the bus, but he will listen to Eddie, so who knows?
Gene is probably right about his share of take-home pay for playing the gig, but bands like Kiss make more money off the merch than the ticket, so overall he’s making way less.
Gene and Paul are obviously bullies, but Ace has done wonders in recent years to prove he's still a mess. I honestly wouldn't want to deal with him, and can totally understand why Gene and Paul don't want to. The drinking and hard living is fine when you're young, but when you're in your 70's it's long past time to grow up. Peter Criss did it. It's possible that Ace isn't drunk and is just suffering some kind of general mental issues, in which case his family needs to implore him to get help. He does not seem well - at all.
Regarding the recent Orlando show you referenced, I checked it out myself. All I can say is I bet Ace is taking the breakup between he and Lara very hard. I think they were together 5 + yrs. That's no fling.
Yes, I do believe Gene pockets more with his solo band. But why does he talk about it? He has more money than he can ever spend. Also, I agree, the set lists for the Gene and Ace solo shows are terrible. Way too many KISS classics.
Solo wise, ACE was best with Frehley’s Comet….especially live while Billy Ward was on drums! Saw them with Y&T and it was an incredible night!! Even the club tour w/Scarlet was good in the mid nineties…maybe someone should offer him a drink and a bump before going on??!!
Look he's getting on a bit.I wouldn't pay for a show either but Im just starting to realize shredders dont sound as good as someone who masters the pentatonic blues scale which he excelled at in 1973 -1977
And don't forget Gene lies about inventing everything from the early years - and don't forget, he was really hot and heavy about claiming EVERYTHING in the early 90's. It was in all the magazines and I was right there believing him - I needed to believe him, because it finally gave credit to KISS - LOOK Kiss aren't a bunch of buffoons' like y'all thought!! so I was happy to repeat everything back verbatim to the KISS haters. But, as the internet came around and you do your research - it was all Bill Aucion and his people - even Paul mentions this many, many times in his book about Gene outright lying about taking credit for other peoples inventions. This is what I really hate about Simmons and so many KISS fans, to this day, STILL believe Gene lock stock and barrel - to the point of violence, if you challenge it - It's crazy.
Definitely would not let kiss. Use the song, Beth.. Peter Chris wrote that song way before he even joined Kiss and it is a masterpiece of a song from the band. It’s my favorite song from kiss .
Dead right about Ace's setlist, been saying it for years - He says he left Kith because he "could make better records on his own" so you go see him and he plays Kith songs he didn't write. Lame. I want to hear Ace play ACE songs. I'm an Ace fan FIRST. He'll be done before long though, see him while he's still here, even a trainwreck is entertaining. 🤘🏻SHMACKAMAGOB🤘🏻
Ace is delusional these days and can't stop his ego ever.He used to be so cool,it's crazy to think how tired I am of hearing him butcher his own songs.ughh!He was one of the great rock guitarists ever...a long time ago.
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It was cool to see the “Asylum”-era photos.
“Tears are Falling” brings-back memories of the fall of 1985. I’d go-back in a second.
BREAKING NEWS: A White House Spokesperson says, "He's allowed to have Bad Nights", "incumbents have Bad Nights". According to the same spokesperson, Ace was also "suffering from a Cold".
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ACCORDING TO SOURCES: Ace was also Jetlagged.
Ace said corn pop was a bad dude
I remember in the mid 2000's Gene and Shannon having their facelifts together. Even a photo of them together just before the surgeries were done with the lines drawn on their faces where the surgeons would nip and tuck. Gene came out of it looking even worse. I wonder if he got a refund?
I saw Ace last Friday in Marion Illinois. it was a strange show. He arrived 35 minutes late didn't thing he was going to show. he kept telling the soundman that his guitar was not loud then it got so loud it was over his vocals so he complained and belittled the sound man for 10 minutes. Told the light guy to shine spotlight on whoever was singing. then said to the crowd this isn't a nursing home its a rock show, took a drink of water and threw the glass bottle in the crowd twice saying this might wake you up. Then grabbed a can of silly string and sprayed it on the audience came back 3 more times but had canned smoke he was mad it wasn't silly string . His set list was pretty good opened with shock me ,played rocked rock several kiss cuts and 2 new cuts from the new album. it was great to see ace but a very strange show.
That is a Sly Stone level of weirdness. Only thing missing was walking off in the middle of the gig and driving away on a motorcycle.
Well at least he didn’t dump in his pants.
Why does he play all those Kiss songs that he didn't write, he has more solo albums than Gene and Paul combined yet hardly plays anything from them it's just a lot of Kiss stuff.
Damn. That sucks.
Being a member of the Kiss Army means you must endure the abuse from the drill sergeant. If it breaks you, then turn in your patch and go home to cry in your mother's arms. I've waited 50 years for Ace to pizz on me and I would gladly accept it if I were lucky enough to be in the front row of his show.
People sure do love to hate on Gene Simmons and heap praise on Ace and Peter. Ace and Peter had severe substance abuse issues. Just admit it people. It’s what it is
Yeah so. Most bands had substance issues lol
@@daveywavey1896and it doesn't make them any less idiotic to have pissed away such huge opportunities. Nothing respectable about being given gifts from the universe and setting them ablaze while behaving like a teenager.
Money, money, money, thats Gene,, as for Ace, you are right again my friend, yes he is surrounded by YES, people.
And yet he's still my favourite member of KISS.
Great show my friend, love listening!!🇦🇺
For me, Ace was Kiss.
Yea Ace does it for free… he hasn’t had a moderately decent solo album since 1978. He has been riding the coattails of Kiss since he left. Please name me one band or anyone that doesn’t do it for the money.
@@JoeyP322he hasent had a great solo album, but he has had ome or two good songs per album 😅
@ronh.798 Ace was Kiss for me too !!
Totally agree 👍 🇦🇺
@@JoeyP322100% true
Peter might not be bad mouthing anyone anymore but he didn't allow Paul and Gene to use "Beth" in that A&E propaganda last year. There is no love lost there.
From what i heard they were asked to be in it and they both declined. Doesnt make sense to not let them use beth and decline at the same time
It's rational. They hate him for bringing "Beth" to the charts, now nobody can use it. Enjoy, Paul and Gene. Your big plight is removed.
@@theshield2207 They were asked to be in it for crap money. They didn't agree to Ace and Peter's terms. Ace just said use Archive footage then. It was a Paul and Gene documentary more then anything. The same old crap.
@@mr.brenman2132 i heard that too. But money is money and agreeing to that documentary they could have atleast gotten along and have had a bigger chance of them being invited to the last 2 shows that were at msg
@@theshield2207 Gene said they were invited to every show on the final tour which was a lie. They invited no one to the final shows. They didn't even invite Bruce.
Ace is Ace you know Ralph. I'm not denying all the really bad footage I've seen over the last several months on RUclips of him falling flat ect. I seen him June 28th at the Marion Civic Center in Marion Illinois and I have to say he sounded great he looked great. Nothing like the RUclips videos I've watched. He seemed recharged and rejuvenated. Granted he's in the 70s now. There is RUclips videos that had surfaced of that show. But I almost didn't go and I'm glad I went. Maybe we caught Ace on his better days.
I agree. ace had a great night in Marion.
I noticed that too. Glad you caught a good show. I saw Charo in Marion back in March. Good time
I love Ace for what he played and how he looked in 1974- 1977 and the 1996 show. That's it. He didn't learn anything new on the guitar, and he didn't have to because people just hung on to the hero he was in the 70's.
Seeing the elder rock stars still hustling and gossiping about former bandmates is part and parcel of trying to keep up the lifestyle they took for granted in the good old days. They have to earn the big bucks to pay for the real estate, the cars, the staff, the alimony, the manager, etc. The tough econmics hits them just as hard if not harder. Some bow out gracefully and live comfortably within their means, others not so much - their name and talent becomes an expendable commodity while their bodies and minds wear out trying to keep up.
Gene's solo-band merch sales are stronger than KISS' tour merch sales...right Gene? LOL
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such an ass.........I am a working Musician and respect the BIG 10 But................he is just a shytstain that should get washed away.
@@longliverocknmetal If you asked Gene? Ha!
Sounds like possibly the overhead is WAY lower, so while the gross might be lower, he takes home more in his pocket from having less people to pay, less moving parts. I think it's a stretch, but it's possible.
I was at Ace in Orlando it was not a train wreck he did a great job for a 73 year old Ace!
Thank you, my family was there and recorded. Great show.
We was there as well and had a great time.
It was embarrassing dross. People should be paying Ace not to play.
Ace Frehley has not improved as a guitar player since the 70s. He had a great style that fit the early KISS, but once the 80s rolled around he stopped improving. He was no match for the "shredders" of that era. He was simply living off his name as the former lead guitarist of KISS. I think all these guys like him, Guns And Roses, Crue, Sebastion Bach, Joe Biden... should just call it a day already. None of them can play anymore.
If you ask me, one guitar player from the 80s that would blowout Ace and still can would be Jake E Lee. He's a very well rounded musician. Jake can write songs and is awesome on guitar. Gene and Paul should have hired him when Ace left. Jake is a monster on guitar and he doesn't use drugs. He always practiced martial arts, so that would have been a colossal boost for the band. Jake's only issue is he doesn't sing. But has Bruce ever sang a song on stage? Never. Only the one song on COS. Had KISS returned to the non makeup band, maybe Bruce would have sung it.
@@stanleybroniszewsky8538 I agree about Jake E. Lee, great player. I recognize your name. NJ? Sister named Tanya?
Yeah man, Ace knows everybody digs his playing, from the 70's!
It takes a truly. . . . . . . . . Unique personality, to bring politics, into this.
@@stanleybroniszewsky8538The first Badlands record? The guitar playing was crazy!
Kiss lasted too long, “you either die a hero or live long enough to be the villain.”
Obviously Gene, Paul, even Ace to an extent never hear the lyrics from My Generation by The Who when Roger Daltry sang 'Hope I die before I get old'. No, I'm not wishing for their demise. But the only smart member would have to be Peter. He did his time. Now he's living a quiet life and doesn't need to live off his past with KISS trying to impress anyone. He's the only original member I admire the most.
Fans kept showing up tho
@@rojopo1971 Not pulling the crowds like 1996.
In honor of Gene's latest claim, I'm gonna crank up "Another Lie" by Dio.
Dio knew what’s up
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There’s no excuse to have your picture taken with Eddie Vedder.
They probably commiserated on the plight of Jews 😂
At least it wasn’t Dave effing Grohl…
whew... this is good news. i was beginning to worry that leaving kiss behind would mean that gene would have to take some sort of pay cut.
That was my deep fear as well.
Greedy Gene lol I wasn't worried that he would continue to be the real greedy Gene lol 😂
I agree, Ace should be playing his original tunes.
I feel his setlist should look like
1. Stranger In A Strange Land
2. Insane
3. Hard Times
4. Space Invader
5. I'm in need of love
6. Rip It Out
7. Shock Me
8. Rocket Ride
9. Into The Night
10. Snow Blind
11. Get Away
12. Cold Gin
13. Strange Ways
14. Speeding Back To My Baby
15. Trouble Walking (But sing "I have trouble talking") hahaha
But lets face it, "Ace is pretty much washed up these days. But I still own all his great recordings.
I agree, that’s a good set list
Parasite, Talk to me, Shot full of Rock and 2,000 Man would be great too.
Torpedo Girl
@@kevinbaltes5710 Two sides of the coin too. What Ace wrote for Unmasked would sound great in proper Rock fashion.
@@O_homem_que_ri I agree with "Parasite" He did a great cover with the "2000 Man" tune. But I could go the rest of my life without hearing "New York Groove" live.
Studio version is fine but if he's hell bent on doing a Russ Ballard tune, I'd much rather hear him playing "Into The Night"
But again, as poor as he plays these days, I wouldn't go to see him at a Free Venue..
I like Ace talking in between songs. He's always done it. Put it this way: Some bands are ALL business, no chatter at all. Get in, get out...Ace makes the show more personal & interesting.
Totally! I think he is hilarious
Gene is doing his usual self promotion and ego inflating. I wouldn't be surprised if he really has figured a way to make more money now than in the end of Kiss. As for Ace wow, his opiated cherry medicine and benzo's cocktail is taking a serious toll on him. Sad Ace could be so much more, but soon he will have finished his own career with more of the same trainwrecks. Ace get help, fr
So true!@@ericcurry-pitcher5493
He's definitely benzo'd up and yes I'm sure some hydros are there in that mix...wash em down with a beer or cold gin and BOOM you have a slurred up paul frehley
Gene Simmons is (as usual) full of himself. Whatever GS (or PS) makes outside of the KISS sellout to Pophouse is separate of that deal. In-reality it's 'chump-change' to what KISS made when the Gene and Paul show had control of the KISS brand. That's over now and GS is simply trying to make more lucre off of what he once owned.
Too Gene doesn’t show up with actual musical talent.
He’s a good businessman, but if he didn’t have legitimate musicians propping him up he’d be screwed on stage.
It's funny because Ace' next show in Woodstock GA was on point. My brother went, and I told him not to expect much because of the Orlando show footage, and Ace made me look like a liar. 😂
Gene is filthy rich,in his mid seventies why is he still worried about making money? Pretty ridiculous really.
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"We'll know it was him!"
8:19 Lmfao 😆
Gene has about 10 shows on his tour this year. His math isn't mathing
Umm yeah you're probably right about the Ace show. In my life I just can't stand the rambling nonsensical conversations anymore. I did it myself for so many years. I just don't have time for the bullshit anymore. In the show you mentioned, Ace sounds EXACTLY like the supposedly "good times" that actually weren't. Call me a judgmental old shit. I don't give a fuck.
So gene is making more money now with his solo band, yeah sure, maybe he also made more money making those shitty movies in the 80s.
Hey, WANTED DEAD OR ALIVE was awesome!
Why is everybody always on Gene's ass for making loads of scratch? Apparently many people are so enlightened that they are just turning down cash left and right. Well keep on sending it right...to me mahfs.
Its his style of doing it. He thinks he came up with the "all I bring is a pick" scheme. Chuck Berry invented it.
I don't know Gene personally, but it seems like that guy never has enough? He epitomizes the whole persona of a greedy rich person.
A dual competition between 2 guitar players was always my love from the start when 2 guitar players can share like it a friendly competitions in t really made me who I am today as a guitar player .
I was at the show at the Hard Rock in Orlando last week. This was my daughters first Ace show, after seeing Kiss 4 times on the End of the Road show, including the 2nd to last show in NYC. It was embarrassing. I have seen Ace 6 or 7 times over the last 10 years. None of them are perfect, but I always have had a great time. This show...I was worried about him. He kept leaning against Ryan for support, he almost fell over 2 or 3 times (and them shockingly did a leg kick with Jeremy later on LOL). He was forgetting what he was talking about, forgetting what songs they were going to play. My daughter kept asking me when it was going to end, and I was thinking to myself, not soon enough. There was a solo where he hit his open e string and it kept ringing out, drowning out his solo. It was all just so sloppy. Ryan, Jeremy and Scottie were tight, but once Ace got in the mix, it was a mess. The other thing that really surprised me was last time he played Hard Rock I had 2nd row for about $45 a seat. That show was so awesome. This time, those same seats were over $200. I knew what the show was going to be, no way I'm paying $200 a seat for that show. Hopefully that night was just an Anomaly for Ace. We all have off days, and I can't imagine being on the road and going through a breakup. Also, might be something about Orlando. He was a complete mess when Kiss played the Farewell tour here, but the next night in Tampa he was fine. I will always love the guy, and hearing about the breakup a day before the show I was kinda prepared for a bad show. But people need to be honest, that was a bad show. Hopefully it's not the last show I get to see, and the next one is great again.
Been an Ace fan since we stole the first KISS album back in '74 the day it came out. Love some off the 10,000 volts songs but Orlando show was bad. I tuned out of RUclips video about 2 minutes in. Pulled up some Midnight Special vids of Deuce, Cold Gin, Firehouse and got my Ace fix.
Honestly these days Peter may be my favourite member. The other 3 are unbearable while Peter has just been chilling for 20+ years not destroying his legacy unless I have missed something
KISS in their glam days. Saw that tour, at the time it didn't matter that much, now I see those Asylum pics and think, wow, KISS were dressing like the New York Dolls or something. Glad they snapped out of that.
KISS most definitely WERE NOT making $1,000,000 per show.
They did a one-off for around that much, but that wasn't their every-show fee.
NO ONE has done that for an entire tour.
I call bullshit, Gene. 🤨
Chaim Witz and Stanley Eisen doing the "all seeing eye" poses in that pic says everything you need to know.
Be careful. I got called an anti-Semite for saying their birth names in a sentence once. It’s that fucking bad.
@@The1WhoKnowsTheTruth were you referencing an anti-Semitic trope like the boob above? Then you were being anti-Semitic, you boob.
@@The1WhoKnowsTheTruth Yeah I know. That's in their playbook to shut the conversation down so things aren't brought to light. When that $hit happens it's all you need to know.
@@vinceblak4425 Congrats on your intelligence. That race thinks they are the only ones with a brain. My Mom did not raise a fool. When I first got hit with the one way bullshit they sling I was shocked but now that I am older and wiser I just reply; “and you anti-Gentile.” This usually ends it fast.
All that makes Gene is money. That is all he cares about
What about Gene's touring band? Will they ask for raises now? I truly wonder what they get paid. Or is his band filled with volunteers?
They're holograms.
Hey Ralph....
ROCKET RIDE
All Vocals, Guitars, Bass is Ace Frehley...
Drums is Anton Fig.
😂You're clueless no it's fkn not its Peter criss.. anton himself has said his first kiss album was Ace 78 solo
Jesus Gene American bands have toured Europe, the East, and South America with the promoter providing instruments, backline, trans, and crew for DECADES. Even the smallest of cult and punk bands have toured this way for DECADES. And European bands tour North America the exact same way. Gene Simmons did not invent this touring model. Chuck Berry was touring with just his guitar FIFTY years ago. The promoter would supply local musicians in each city to back Chuck as well as backline for the band.
Just checked out the Ace Orlando video...had to stop half way through Shout it Out Loud..... I saw Ace on the Trouble Walking tour (peak Ace F'ed up) and yeah he was a mess but that Orlando show....holy balls it's worse than I could imagine.
Great show Ralph and I actually believe Gene when he says he makes more per show doing this solo stuff, as the KISS production was so huge and expensive that Paul automatically got the same as Gene, then paying Tommy, Eric and even manager Doc took a nice chunk right there, plus the road crew and the expenses of the pyro can't be cheap, so per show he's probably right, but KISS merchandise will forever be their bread and butter even without playing, as it will always be a goldmine. Love Ace, as he was my favorite back in the 70's, but with him wanting to come and go in the band as he pleases and with all his issues with drugs or alcohol, that ship sailed for me, although I still wish him the best and hopefully he's not back into drinking or drugs again, as it's hard enough to still perform in your 70's without being messed up. Ace talking crap about KISS at his shows will just piss off the hard core KISS fans and his shows will suffer in ticket sales eventually. Ace needs to just worry about his playing, putting on a great show and stop talking about his ex girlfriends and ex bandmates, because not many people actually care. Happy 4th of July Ralph and to all the Americans on here from your Canadian neighbor.
Thank you!
Good comment, you hoser!
@@acorn-yy1gi Thank you and that we are lol
Maybe Ace should have let Steve Brown do his show instead.
Last time I saw Ace live was opening up for Alice Cooper about three years ago. He did fine then.
Matthew 16:26
26 For what is a man profited, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul? or what shall a man give in exchange for his soul?
Paul and Gene didnt play on certain songs I Still Love you Eric Carr on bass guitar.
There's a difference between not playing on a few songs here and there vs not playing on an entire album
Can't we just let these prehistoric hasbeens disappear into obscurity? People speak of them as if they're still relevant. Nothing new under the sun...same drama for decades.
When it comes to whether or not Gene is correct on making more money than KISS, I would say maybe his net take is more because of the costs KISS had when paying for a lot of things that maybe Gene doesn't pay now. I wouldn't think the gross pay is more. I would think it is less but also less costs so it might be true he's taking more pay doing solo tours. When it comes to Ace, I was amused watching that Orlando show and I saw it from start to finish and I thought it was funny how bad he played but then after a while it was getting boring like a joke told too may times. His solo on Cold Gin was almost a complete waste of time. I wouldn't pay to see him live now. The only member of KISS I would go see live now is Bruce Kulick.
Real Phone call 📲 "Ace if I go down about the chicken coupe under age girls you'll go down too"
What was that about? Probably involved in a sex trafficking ring? Part of Epstein’s members?
Dp you have proof ? Receipt ?
Gene Simmons is the biggest schmuck in Metal.
You mean chiam vitz
I actually watched Ace's whole show from West Virginia a couple weeks ago and it was awesome! I know he can be hit and miss but that was a good show. I haven't watched Orlando yet but it sounds like a miss lol
I appreciate your honesty cause as we know you're a fan.
The Djoos love their money. It is what it is but they wouldn't have been as big without Djeen the Djini Gene or Paul
Beedie eyed money lenders??!!
He's the reason why I play guitar with what is I've seen lately OMG 😮
Many thanks Doc🤘 spot on as always
Much appreciated
With how much a KISS concert must cost I can believe that Gene pockets more money because it's not wrapped up in paying for all the expenses of a Broadway Level staged show and what it takes to pull it off.
The things Ace was saying between songs, he's absolutely unhinged. It's either drugs or his mind is going from old age, there's no in between.
Someone has money,Gene just won't have that, he must have every cent on the face of the earth.
Ace needs to RETIRE it's not because he's not doing his music enough... that because it's really not that good... I really can't believe people spend 💰 2..C..him he's DONE go home and B ah grandpa...he's ah JOKE now🤘✌
Love kiss Wednesday and Only news
MY KISS STORY
I was 10 years old. My friend pulled out a KISS album. All I knew was the one TV song I'd seen with the fire and the blood and the smoke and the make up.... He plays Love Gun, and Dr. Love.
"OH MAN THAT THAT WAS BAD ASS!", I said.
Then he says, "Wait check this out.."
Puts on VH's ERUPTION.
46 years later and I've still never gave a damn about a KISS song.😂😂😂
He is from Planet Jendel, and he never got it together with gravity here on Earth. The Cosmic Rays are heavy in Florida this time of year. Space Invader!
I remember in Chuck Berry's movie Hail, Hail Rock & Roll that he did get in his Cadillac w/a Gibson ES-335. Not too sure about what Gene's saying is true. 🤷♂️
Gene’s net worth 400 million, Ace 1 million. So basically Ace has some New York home equity and a few toys. On the cash end he’s broke!
I just saw ACE last Saturday at the Lincoln Theater in Decatur Illinois and he rocked!! It was a great show and I was grateful to have been there. 🤘
Are you sure you weren’t just blinded by nostalgia?
@@ShockMe1994 Exactly, everyone who says he's still got it is absolutely blinded by nostalgia. Ace is dreadful now and anyone with no attachment to him can see that.
@@rodbelding9523 he’s my favorite KISS member but from all the recent footage I’ve seen, he’s terrible.
Ralph I may have missed the update but what happened with you in the hospital? Are you doing ok dude?
my leg was fucked up. im fine niw. thanks for asking
He's worth over 300 million dollars...how much money can he need?
Shitty wigs cost a fortune
Gene might be making more... he's keeping more and not paying the guitarist 300 a gig.
Gene played less on Kiss albums than all members combined!
Ok….off topic. What the song playing on the intro. Love the tone!
All of Ace's shows are trainwrecks,I feel sorry for his band.
Agreed, imagine putting this gig on your resume… 🙄
Yo Ralph. What I like about you are the honesty of what you put to the table. Ace has become too sloppy even in recording. I listen to a RUclips channel called: "The Art of Guitar" He called out after listening to "10000 Volts" Autotune? And copy / paste the solo, because he tried to play the guitar afterwards and found within the solo lick "jumps" that just didn't work. I love Ace too, but I only listen to the new record, once....
Everytime I see him perform hw plays perfectly. I've seen him once with Kiss and three times on his own.
Supposedly, and he said it on his show, Ed Trunk talked Ace down "off the ledge" about throwing dirt on Paul. IDK. I can see Ace ready to throw Paul under the bus, but he will listen to Eddie, so who knows?
Gene is probably right about his share of take-home pay for playing the gig, but bands like Kiss make more money off the merch than the ticket, so overall he’s making way less.
Love “Sweet Pain”❤️
“My leathers fit tight around me
Whip is always beside me
You want the same thing every day
I'll teach you love a different way”
Ace is on something no doubt he says he's sober but I think he's on pills not good
Fly dates, that’s how they work. He didn’t create that.
No wonder Gene spoke at Chuck Berry's funeral.
I guess I am in the minority.
I think he’s great, I enjoy his talking to the crowd, it’s endearing.
His accent is adorable.
Gene and Paul are obviously bullies, but Ace has done wonders in recent years to prove he's still a mess.
I honestly wouldn't want to deal with him, and can totally understand why Gene and Paul don't want to. The drinking and hard living is fine when you're young, but when you're in your 70's it's long past time to grow up. Peter Criss did it. It's possible that Ace isn't drunk and is just suffering some kind of general mental issues, in which case his family needs to implore him to get help. He does not seem well - at all.
I saw Ace on the last tour and it was bad I decided then I won't see ace again
One of Gene facts is that it's based on per capita. He pockets more on his solo shows . Bigger piece of the pie. Low cost Ect.
Regarding the recent Orlando show you referenced, I checked it out myself. All I can say is I bet Ace is taking the breakup between he and Lara very hard. I think they were together 5 + yrs. That's no fling.
Yes, I do believe Gene pockets more with his solo band. But why does he talk about it? He has more money than he can ever spend. Also, I agree, the set lists for the Gene and Ace solo shows are terrible. Way too many KISS classics.
Solo wise, ACE was best with Frehley’s Comet….especially live while Billy Ward was on drums! Saw them with Y&T and it was an incredible night!! Even the club tour w/Scarlet was good in the mid nineties…maybe someone should offer him a drink and a bump before going on??!!
One last statement here is 2 heads are better then one in the arena of fame and stability in the music industry
Yeah Gene, that may have something do with, Paul, Tommy & Eric not being paid!
Saw his show last night in Milwaukee.
Ace is using without a doubt
Look he's getting on a bit.I wouldn't pay for a show either but Im just starting to realize shredders dont sound as good as someone who masters the pentatonic blues scale which he excelled at in 1973 -1977
And don't forget Gene lies about inventing everything from the early years - and don't forget, he was really hot and heavy about claiming EVERYTHING in the early 90's. It was in all the magazines and I was right there believing him - I needed to believe him, because it finally gave credit to KISS - LOOK Kiss aren't a bunch of buffoons' like y'all thought!! so I was happy to repeat everything back verbatim to the KISS haters. But, as the internet came around and you do your research - it was all Bill Aucion and his people - even Paul mentions this many, many times in his book about Gene outright lying about taking credit for other peoples inventions. This is what I really hate about Simmons and so many KISS fans, to this day, STILL believe Gene lock stock and barrel - to the point of violence, if you challenge it - It's crazy.
Definitely would not let kiss. Use the song, Beth.. Peter Chris wrote that song way before he even joined Kiss and it is a masterpiece of a song from the band. It’s my favorite song from kiss .
😂🎉 this is the ONLY sorta KISS take I want to hear. The TRUTH!
Dead right about Ace's setlist, been saying it for years - He says he left Kith because he "could make better records on his own" so you go see him and he plays Kith songs he didn't write. Lame. I want to hear Ace play ACE songs. I'm an Ace fan FIRST. He'll be done before long though, see him while he's still here, even a trainwreck is entertaining. 🤘🏻SHMACKAMAGOB🤘🏻
Ace is delusional these days and can't stop his ego ever.He used to be so cool,it's crazy to think how tired I am of hearing him butcher his own songs.ughh!He was one of the great rock guitarists ever...a long time ago.