What EVH and AVH did to Michael Anthony is right up there with what Coverdale did to Sykes. In my book, worse, because of the history, contribution, & longtime success VH had. Anthony was family. EVH went to his grave without ever apologizing or trying to reconcile with Anthony. Think about that. What did Anthony ever do to EVH? Nothing, except give him a lifetime of loyalty and hard work.
@2216sammy Oh ...I see. So because Michael Anthony decided to leave that erases the fact that he was treated like Sh*T?? What would you do if you were at a place where you are being treated like crap? Stick around?? LMAO!!! 😆😆😆
Eh dude, haha were you there? I mean you watch some bullshit made up on youtube with their slant, badsed on facts that suit their narrative and then you take that as truth? You think the guy who posted this has 100% of the facts? Nope he's just here to post clickbait to grow his channel to make money. We are the victims here - helping this cat make money.
Raging alcoholics and drug addicts are results of even worse victimizers almost always. Most people if you treat them decent, good or great, then they do the same to you. Mess with people enough and they get upset and mess with you back. Mix in enough harassment to get people angry when sober, drunk or high and you're the source of a chain of stupid events and it can come back to haunt you.
Couldn't have said it better. Loved Eddie growing up and being a guitar player myself we sometimes live in a false sense of reality that those who impacted our lives can do no wrong. Appreciate your comment and may Eddie Van Halen RIP.
Evh could not initially remove Anthony from full member status. Why on earth would mike ever agree to relinquish his lawful full member status, sign legal documents, and become a salaried employee.
He was an idiot to stay with them.If he had left them early on he would have shown the world the true colors of the Van Halens.I am glad I never bought a single album of theirs.I did buy Roth's solo EP LP with California Girls. Peace.
When you are a slave to drinking and drugs, you destroy everyone around. Geddy Lee of Rush is the most professional, gracious, and generous men I ever had the pleasure to meet. Sorry to hear he was so mistreated. Truly a case of 1st class meeting low class.
Rush early on in their career decided to split everything equally to avoid any rancour and to enable each member to feel valued. That loyalty to each other remained and remains rock solid even after Neil Peart’s death. They are the antithesis of EVH
RANDY PLAYED BRIGHT AND CLEAR....... EDDIE WAS SLOPPY AND TO HIDE THAT HE WAAAAAAY OVERUSED HIS tremolo bar. If he didn't have access to one. Just imagine how different people would feel. Randy did classical compositions and rarely used a tremolo. He never had a Floyd Rose just stock tremolo systems......but then again he didn't need it....RANDY AND GEORGE WERE BOTH BETTER. GO PLAY VAN HALEN 1.....SIMPLE SHIT
@@DonaldTrumps-zc5mu Simple shit? If that's the case, for somebody to make "simple shit" and sell albums BEFORE mtv. That's the ticket, if you wanna make money. And in the end, my friend, it's all subjective.
@@hyacinthlynch843 All day Every Day Rhoads was as humble as they come .one time while on tour he was at a mall is some city where they were gonna play that night and was walking around with Rudy Sarso and these two teenagers that played guitar recognized them and were asking him about how he did this lick or that riff and Randy said it's hard to tell you how without his guitar and the teens asked Randy if they wanted to come over to their house so he could help him and Randy said yeah lmao .him and Rudy jumped in their car and went to dudes house and brought him in and the guys family tripped the f*ck out when Randy Rhoads and Rudy Sarso comes walking through the door and starts giving this kid a lesson like he was just one of the gang..TRUE STORY Rudy has told it many times and it was published in a 1981 Issue of Hit Parader that year .now can you imagine Eddie or anyone else doing that lmfao
I remember after DLR split from VH, Eddie said “Dave Lee Roth is an asshole”; and in a characteristically sarcastic and understated retort, DLR said “Some people are never happy unless they’re unhappy” lol
Rush offering to share their booze rather than avoid conflict (and then Geddy Lee trying to approach EVH to make amends for something THE LATTER did) has to be the most stereotypically Canadian thing ever.
@@charleschidsey2831There’s that version … where you always answer like … “Sorry, is it actually ‘Dewey Decimal System’, Alex?” or “I’m sorry, but I think it’s ‘J. Edgar Hoover’s lace garters?’”. There’s also the “Canadian Culture Edition” where the Categories are things like “Things American’s Didn’t Discover / (Discoveries)” and “Olympic Medals the US Didn’t Win / (The Olympics)” and “Things Americans Didn’t Say / (Sayings)” and so on. And all the questions are always chosen ahead of time so that the correct answers are never “the USA” or “America” or “Americans” or some American person or place or things, etc. And you answer as normally, in terms of a question, EXCEPT when the correct answer involves Canada or a Canadian and then you answer in terms of an apology … “Sorry, Alex, but what is Basketball?” or “Sorry to have to say this, but what is the Wonderbra, Alex?” or “Gosh, we’re sorry, but … um … who is ‘Superman’?” And the worst of all maybe … “We can’t apologize enough for this but … who is Ted Cruz?”
@@KennethSchamehorn Eddie was uniquely talented and thought that gave him special privilege over other members which tbf is right. The fact he gave everyone song writing credits on songs they didn't help write for so long, blows my mind.
Yeah, when he was claiming that holding a penny in his mouth gave him cancer.....oh yeah, that was it Ed. Not the decades of smoking cigarettes and weed and meth and other garbage.....no, you're right, it was the penny......🙄🙄🙄🙄
MAAAN! Randy Rhoads didn't need to learn anything from Eddie Van Halen, he grew up in an incredible musical household and while he did probably do some similar things with Eddie like tapping and whammy-bar theatrics, there was a classical composition structural quality to Rhoads playing and his songwriting on the Ozzy albums he worked on that IMHO are unmatched today. So many parts of that album like the guitar comping part of Over The Mountain and so many other things give me shivers down my spine. Had Randy Rhoads lived, I have no doubt he'd have had a powerful and wide ranging impact on music as a performer/songwriter and perhaps even producing other artists and film score composer.
Agreed, they both have talent to be sure, but they are not comparable. Eddie showed off, Randy weaved a tale with his every riff and solo. I cannot even begin to imagine what Randy Rhoades could've created if he hadn't taken up that damn plane ride.
Drove them around for a weekend in a limo in 95. Sammy refused to ride with them. I can honestly say, they were the absolute worst people I ever had the misfortune of driving. Eddie was totally horrible. Sammy, on the other hand, is the nicest man I ever met.
Geddy Lee and the other members of Rush are revered and respected by their peers, not only as musicians, but as warm, generous human beings. Eddie Van Halen…not so much.
@@cbotten106 well that is because really did not listen or he was in denial, Randy changed the game in many ways just ask Grover jackson. Ed did not really do anything innovative, he simply popularized what others did before him on a grand stage.
When you're dealing with a competitive environment, there's not really much of a choice. You're either an asshole, or others will EAT your asshole. Even if only metaphorically speaking. But sometimes, EVEN LITERALLY. Lol. Human nature.
@@HeathenDance It's really about Ed being a complete jerk and asshat due to his alcohol and narcotics addictions. His betrayal and thievery from Anthony, who was an integral part of the band, its sound and who there from the very beginning is one glaring example. Bands, esp. big bands like VH have managers, promoters and attorney's to deal with that 'competitive environment'. Ed conducted his asshattery on his own.
@@smoothtalkerguitarsuk4431...but...but what about... It doesn't matter if the OP is awesome or a scumbag. The truth is the truth, and sometimes it hurts. Just like your fragile feeling got hurt and triggered.
@@section8usmc53 what does that mean? Were you there? Two people have a fight, they both tell the story about how things happened, what the dynamic was etc etc. Well, here, you nor I were ever in the room with any of them. Its got effall to do with my feelings at all. Have a read of this guys youtube channels other vids. Its all just bllsht clickbait crap. So if you feel you knew Eddie and how he started it all back in the day, and who was at fault for what - I applaud you. But NONE of us here knew him nor the rest of the guys.
Eddie was a guy who made it at a pretty early age, and never had to grow up emotionally. His foray into hard drugs will always stain his legacy. He was known for treating people around him real bad...ask Michael Anthony, Sammy Hagar, and Rush band members, and many others.
I read that he studied classical guitar, so he had the formal musical instructions early on as a kid. Those "riffs" he played are quite common in classical guitar playing. Understandably many non-musicians would not know this fact and you can search and find many classical guitarists in YT, that play just as well as EVH. Those "riffs" are status-quo in their field of playing. And I agree, he never had to grow-up emotionally. I have seen this in other industries when the "kid" took over his dad's business. They never had to struggle and learn.
Randy was obviously a much nicer person than Eddie. If he had lived and Eddie had passed at a young age, Randy would have been a much better role model than Eddie for sure.
There is NO QUESTION about that! Randy was a polite, humble human being, raised by a wonderful mother, Delores Rhoads...and he was one helluva KICK ASS guitarist.🎸🔥 RIP RR 🙏
Yes Randy seemed like a really cool guy and a very Humble virtuoso! Even being as talented and solid as he was as an all around guitar player and lead player....I read in many interviews done with Randy that practically every town he was touring around the world...He paid guitar teachers and other guitarist for lessons from them. Because even though he was truly AWESOME...he never acted like he was better than anyone and always strived to learn new things from others to improve himself!
I've always preffered Randy to Eddie, even though they were both very impressive. Never got the chance to see Randy live but when I saw Van Halen I was greatly dissapointed by the entire performance. It's possible I caught them on an off night. Sammy could'nt hit the high notes (not even close) and Eddie was basically rambling on guitar. It was weird.
Very true. Eddie had a double standard. If Dave or Mike wanted to do a side project with others. he'd have a fit and talk about "loyalty" tot he band...YET...he did "Beat it" for Michael Jackson, and some other side projects, including a movie soundtrack. The way he did Mike Anthony. was pretty disgusting. That guy was a brother....he was there from the word GO. Sammy had said, that when Eddie took control of the bacnd...it was like being on a plane....and the pilot was blind and high.
@@robertlamkin6464 People do not realize Alex was always the true leader of VH but EVH was Alex's mouthpiece. Almost every vile thing Eddie ever said originated with Alex. I felt sorry for Eddie because Alex knew exactly how to control him and played his own younger brother like a puppet.
They did Mike dirty. Greed is funny cause from the outside this is how it looks as who gained and kept the most money from the actual band, not including other businesses and such. #1 DLR #2 Valerie as she wiped Ed out. #3 Sammy #4 Ed’s cocaine and meth dealer #5 Heineken and Philip Morris #6 All of Alex’s ex wives. #7 IRS from all of Alex’s unpaid back taxes #8 Alex’s divorce and tax lawyers #9 Micheal Anthony #10 Edward himself and now Wolf #11 Alex
Many in this profession are. They all have dope dealers everywhere they go. The entertainment business is not exactly a holy business. It's lawyers, accountants, dirty groupies and A LOT of drugs
Alcohol was his main addiction with everything else following. I read that he used cocaine as a song writing tool to keep going. One isn’t any better than the other of course.
Yeah, he was a big drunk. That was one of the number 1 things. Of course, all the others went along with it, but he was mostly a drunk but I still love him.
One thing people don’t really know about Eddie is he didn’t really listen to others music. He was also fairly sheltered after they became famous. But I get it. I mean Ged pretty much only looks like Ged 😅
The price of fame and fortune. It's sad, how the Van Halen brothers treated Michael, but in the end, Mike's living his best life, playing in various bands with Sammy, and Eddie? He's still dead.
I know personally from one of Randy's best friends Lori, Randy was packing up at the whiskey in 78, at the back when Roth and Ed drove up in a Mercedes started teasing Randy saying he would never get a car like this. Lori slapped Roth and they drove off. Ed and Randy were in line at a club Randy tried to talk to him before this and Ed blew him off. Randy wanted to know how he kept his guitar in tune with the tremolo. He was a jerk to him.
@@rich52569 he was insecure about Randy especially once Randy won that reader's poll in the U.K. he knew Randy was every bit as talented as himself. Why he refused to partake in the Rhoads documentary we will never know
Eddie never claimed he taught Randy Rhoads. He said "Everything he learned, (meaning the tricks Eddie did on guitar) he learned from me." Randy had students who wanted to play Van Halen songs so Randy had to learn the songs in order to teach his students. One thing this video left out is the fact that Eddie never offered condolences to Michael Anthony when his infant grandson passed away. If you've seen the video of Sammy and Mike that was made right after Eddie died, you can see Mike doesn't look saddened. Who could blame him?
Now THERE’s two opposite ends of the rainbow for ya! Van Halen at one end (screwing over non-Van Halens), and Rush at the other. When Neil went on his sabbatical after the losses of his wife and his daughter … Geddy and Alex chose to do nothing without Neil Peart … THAT … boys and girls, is LOYALTY!!
Don't kick a dead man for things he did when he was an addict. The man made many enemies, and reconciled with quite a few of them before the end. Can you say the same?
@@TANTRUMGASM Mike is worth $50 million because of his business acumen. EVH wanted Mike to end his condiment business, he thought is was beneath the dignity of the band. Luckily, Mike refused.
The Lynyrd Skynyrd guys had plenty of tales about Ronnie Van Zant's using his fists to resolve any problems, and sure enough, there's that familiar trope: Great guy, would give you the shirt off his back, until he hit the bottle and could have auditioned for Jack's part in "The Shining". There were signs that he had figured that out by the time of the plane crash.
I'm no fan of Durst but unless the recanting of this tale is incomplete, how does Eddie's leaving his gear at Durst's place constitute wrongdoing on Dursts part? I would never up and leave my rig at someones place who I don't know that well.
Given the quality of this videos information, you can rest assure that the "tale is incomplete" or perhaps close to complete fabrication. I think they were supposedly jamming together and had a blow up but EVH leaving his guitar behind sounds dubious, tbh.
@@haliaeetus8221 idk fenders terminology, what i mean is fast repeat picking of single note, and Eddie make it like balalayka player, not like fast alternate picking, and this type of vibrato/tremolo sounds so cool. Nobody can do that
VH will always have a black cloud hanging over them for what they did to Michael. (Mick Mars going thru it right now )--Michael Anthony is the one who inspired me to pick up a bass 🎸
I read that when Rush was the opening act for KISS, after the show KISS would party hard with the women in the hotel while Rush were sitting in their hotel room, watching t.v., chilling, all three hanging out together.
He knows...He finally wised up after Eddie went after whatever little he had left...Should never have agreed to the first attempt, much less the second!!
@@johnfranco1450A little of both perhaps? I read somewhere that DLR, in high school, was that guy who was “cool” with literally everybody. Musically, he was equally open minded, as a lot of his stage moves were right out of vaudeville. It’s not difficult to imagine that the day came where he (for all his own issues) simply couldn’t deal with someone who was the product of a far more toxic environment and carried himself accordingly…even if that guy was an innovator.
VH was not that band without Anthony's mesmerizing backround vocals. He also left room for Eddie to be the main instrument freeing up Edd to do as he wished. Eddie Van Halen was a dick.
I loved Van Halen. A huge part of life for me. Alcoholism, drug addiction and cigarettes took Eddie's soul. Ego turns into insanity. He hurt many good people. I still have a great love for the man. Rest in peace 🎸.
Ahhhh a Roth disliker…..because after Ed got sober, and got his hand and firearm repaired due to bone spurs and tendon issues, he played amazingly on the last tour especially. Roth….yeah his vocals left fans wanting better maybe, but when he first committed to the reunion he was trying to really be the singer of old, but Ed wasn’t in a good place. Chemistry was undeniable, but the last tour was only Roth who wasn’t quite on point. Ed…he played so good. Imho. Rock on!
I loved Eddie’s guitar work but when he was caught cheating on Valerie he lost my “idol worship” standards. His ego was off the charts. RUSH is a great band and no one can dispute that!
I met him, backstage in Houston in '86. We were the Kramer dealer, and gave away a guitar to be handed off by EVH. I spent almost the entire time (maybe 15 minutes) talking to Mike, what a great guy. Eddie was about the most obnoxious, mean, insufferable a$$hole I ever met. Everybody with us walked in revering him, and leaving despising him. I didn't know about the substance abuse at the time.
Yeah, the Michael Anthony situation was pretty fu**ed up you guys. But we ain’t perfect, none of us are. And Sammy who is the richest of them all took Michael under his wing and they are doing pretty good these days. Plus, Michael ain’t broke, he banked more money than most of us can only dream of. So ain’t no point feeling sorry for any of these guys. Michael lives in a mansion and has a net worth over 50 million dollars. I think he’s alright 😂
@@scottcaldwell7480 Is that what you got out of what I wrote 😂 wow.. What does it say in my first sentence? Does " fu**ed up" mean "ok” to you? Got it. And there is this thing called perspective. Yeah, you can say it was fu**ed and put it in perspective at the same time. Amazing right?
Most Rock bands have little respect for the bass player in general. The guitar player,lead singer and drummer get all the praise. In Prog and Fusion they get more respect and elevation.
I have always wondered how much Greater Randy Rhoads could have been if he had lived to build his own band. Watching those two gods battle to be the best in rock would have been one hell of an era... Wow, If only. RIP
Are you honestly implying that Ed Van Halen hadn't smoked weed before? I'm not defending all the stuff Ed did or didn't do, but his negative attitude about marijuana was absolutely not based on a lack of experience with it.
@@davenathan5347 I quit drinking and everything else just to burn my original favorite! Speaking of which, the natives are smiling and passing along a sample of their yield now...!!!
I don't. Both she and Ed married other people. After Ed died, she acted like neither of them existed and went all over interview shows like she hadn't been divorced for like 20 years.
@@scottm8579 That's still on her. Everyone knows staying to "fix" someone is a fool's errand. Anyone I've known who's in recovery said you have to do it for you, not because someone else is staying around.
Eddie paid with his life. May we all be lucky to live twice as long. I laughed out loudly that he confronted Durst's (Limp Biskit) complete lack of musicianship.
I have met, and hung out with Mikey...far away from any of the fame and money. He is a genuinely, super good guy. Not once, have he and I talked about his career. We have had times, talking about boating, and cars... or just the subjects of the day. Kind and friendly guy, who appreciates his success, but doesn't even mention it.
Y'all can hate me if you want but I honestly believe that if Randy Rhodes had as long of a career as Eddie Randy might be considered the best. He was trained as a classical guitarist and you can hear it in his work with Ozzy. As a guitarist shredding is not as important as creating emotions through unique sound through the different modes. Randy was great at it.
A lot of people, millions agree with you. Some think he was better already. The only issue would have been when Randy quit Blizzard of ozz, to do other things...how would that have played out./ Ranhdy was so melodic and more learned. on guitar
He likely had an arsenal, alcohol and coke, are a recipe for paranoia. Plus, he was always rolling in mega-buck autos. He could have pulled the Uzi out of the boot but figured a pistol would be sufficient for an equipment pickup.
@@cbotten106 I was just being a smartass with this comment. He probably did have an arsenal. I know I would if I had that kind of money and I’m not even paranoid but this was some kind of magic gun that changed into another gun while he was holding it. I’m sure it was stock footage and they didn’t bother to check continuity because no way he went there with a cameraman.
Yeah Eddie thought the sun and the moon rose due to his playing and tried publicly to take credit for Rhodes and many other success in and around the Los Angeles music scene .in all honesty in the very early stages Rhoads was farther along as a musician than Ed due to his vast musical knowledge .Randy talents greatly exceeded his teachers and soon had amassed large number of young and older students himself that were seeking to learn to play the instrument .you can find recordings of both of them in the early 70s and Rhoads was a better player when both first formed bands as young teenagers .its true Eddie's playing had improved dramatically as the decade neared the mid to late point .Ed followed a more hard rock path while Randy was inspired by artists from the more commercial and mainstream rock like David Bowie and others .but Rhoads after moving to the Uk was cast with older more seasoned an accomplished musicians in Bob Daisley .Lee Kerslake and others he started paying a lot of attention to for the first time .this is when Rhoads improved drastically as a player and even more as a songwriter and composer .Eddie was jealous of the Attention Rhoads had started getting and couldn't help but lash out due to his overinflatted ego
Thank you for this. I've been pushing back against what I've come to think of as the Cult of Van Halen for years. A lot of people seem to think that if you're great at the guitar, it means you are somehow more than human and above reproach with regards to any of your bad behaviors, and even that somehow you can do no wrong, or that you must be some kind of saint in every aspect of your life. EVH was a complicated human being. For certain a lot of people talk about how good he could be to them. A lot of those same people also talk about how awful he could become, and how suddenly. He was actually very talkative at the different stages of his life, whether strung out on meth or coke, or even when sober, and left behind a very public record of bad behaviors, harmful words directed at others, and proof positive of a titanic ego that could make him very condescending, selfish and disrespectful at times. He was in every way a classic vulnerable narcissist. He was a helluva talent, to be sure, but he was a human being and often did not live up to his potential and hype. More to the point, as good and as much an innovator as he was, he still borrowed ideas from others, and being human, was copyable and even able to be bettered by other players. Yet his cult can be so toxic that they are willing to throw a punch to defend him (a very real threat if you were critical of him during the time I grew up), and many of them refused to believe that Eddie's son Wolfgang could play so much like him at the Taylor Hawkins benefit, to the point where they accused him of faking it to a backing track and even threatened him - and each other - online. There's a real danger in forgetting that our favorite celebrities are really just people. We can see the effects of toxic celebrity every day in our politics now.
A friend of mine worked for Limp Bizkit when this happened, and Eddie showed up with a crowbar and an Uzi. After that, we called him Uzi Van Halen. lol
According to Monk, Alex was the heavy dealing with Anthony . It was always Alex making the big hard decisions . This from the reading of Monks own book . Nothing new here by any means . Remember what happened to Don Felder when he questioned the Dynamic Duo and wanted to see the books .
A lot of blame falls on Jan Van Halen --- he started his sons Eddie and Alex on the path towards alcohol and nicotine addiction --- just a lousy father overall
Yeah, supposedly EVH (when still in his early teens) asked his father how to deal with nerves before the show and his dad told him to get loaded...always worked for Jan. Also, remember, Jan was European and they have a bit different way of looking at early drinking, or did at that time. I don't know if that makes you a lousy father but certainly a iffy role model.
@@cbotten106 According to Alex's book, drinking was a typical thing that they did. And it wasn't just Eddie, Alex and Jan either. When they'd meet up with other Van Halen family members, they'd all be drinking and smoking because, at the time, it was the social thing to do.
I'm kind of sorry that I watched this. I had such high esteem for Eddie. Now I realize he was just like most of the others when it came to greed and crapping on people Sammy and Micheal Anthony are the real class acts of this clown show.
That's not really true though, while Michael Anthony is a very good guy, it was never fair for him to have 25% of the royalties when he never wrote a song for Van Halen And Sammy, well if we're talking about egoes and greed then Sammy is no saint
Are you KIDDING?! The original Deal was that they all got 25%. Mike did help write songs adding his creative bass lines and high singing harmonies...I'm sure he had input to Eds writing...ideas bouncing off from others helped them write songs! So by your reasoning Alex shouldn't get paid much either because he was a drummer! Man never played a musical note anywhere! Well?
@@dalestroup9495 the way they worked, Eddie had the whole song worked out before he called Dave/Sammy and Michael into the studio to record their stuff, he had a finished demo and sometimes, like with Fair Warning, Eddie had an entire album finished when he called Dave and Mike in. Your reasoning with Alex is sound, however Alex was most often in the studio with Ed when he developed the songs, neither of which Mike or Sammy were, with exceptions of course. This isn’t an outlandish way of working, Pete Townsend of the Who did the same thing, and he even sang the songs as well to show Roger Daltrey what he wanted.
@@dalestroup9495 I agree with you on that Michael Anthony’s harmonies were an essential part of Van Halen’s sound, so he should absolutely get credit. I just do not believe he should get the same cut as Eddie.
The 80s was such a unique time Back then a lead guitarist could be as or more famous than the singer Name a guitarist in music from a band formed in the last 5 years
@@donmcglothlin841 The rock era is basically over. In rock, guitar was considered very important, which is why you had famous guitarists who weren't necessarily vocalists.
I remember when Van Halen broke up, and rumors were that Sammy Hagar was going to be the new singer. I remember that that was the weirdest thing and we all wondered what it would sound like, we could not picture it at all. Then we were shocked how good it sounded. Sammy Hagar was his own thing. It was weird for us to picture him in Van Halen when we were younger. David Lee Roth is still the goat of Van Halen if you ask me, but Sammy Hagar did great.
It was, but I wonder why Mike just kept agreeing to all that stuff. He would have been better off to tell Eddie to kiss his ass and going to another band where he was treated fairly. 🤔
Eddie Van Halen was my most favorite guitarist of all-time, my music hero, but after totally knowing what they did to Michael Anthony, my admiration to this guy just plummeted.
I don’t know why people still debate these two guitarists all these years later. Anything Eddie could Randy could do better. Randy was a composer and had elaborate feeling that Eddie couldn’t even touch.
@TANTRUMGASM really??? You feel the need to snipe at me. I think it's YOU that needs to grow up. I have the right to my opinion as well as you do. But I don't have the right to be rude.
@@LISAFOSTERSPLANEThe's very diligent about posting that same comment, over and over... Apparently it's immature to talk about Michael Anthony because he's worth 50 million.
I can totally relate to Eddie Van Halans downfall. Music is a spiritual realm which can open up all kinds of enlightenment. However, that can also be the curse. The need to keep your creativity and your mind soaring beyond belief. That's where the struggle begins. That's when addiction takes hold. It's at that point we will do anything and everything, to fly higher then anyone has ever done before. No matter the cost to everyone around us. We reach out and will grab at the things that help fill the void no matter how superficial they are
This is why as a musician myself and a guitar player, I have little to no respect for Eddie Van Halen. His fame and fortune when straight to his head. To me the way he done Michael Anthony, Sammy Hagar, and Randy Rhods is unforgivable in my book. Sammy had much, much more talent and experience than Eddie and could give Eddie all he wanted on a guitar as well. Randy Rhodes was a trained and educated musican and every bit as good as Eddie on guitar as well. Maybe even better. If Randy had not died so young in that tragic accident, I strongly believe he would have surpassed Eddie on the guitar at some point. Eddie was good on guitar, but way over rated in my book...
I dunno, I liked VH back in the day I guess. Eddie wasnt near the guitarist Rhodes was. Sure he had fast fingers and could string a note casserole together, but as a pure rock guitarist, Rhodes ALL the way!
EVH was an condescending egotistical narcissist doink, who thought his poop smelled like roses, but He forever changed rock guitar and we all know it. Loved Rhoads too. BUT...take the tone on VH1 and compare it to blizzard of oz. Randy's tone to eddie's was like comparing a kazoo to a nuke.
I am glad Michael is with sammy hagar because they are the best of friends. Michael has an amazing voice as well that sammy Said his background vocals were second to none.
I've read both Noel Monk's book & Sammy Hagar's book. Each tell the same story of EVH displaying symptoms of alcohol-induced psychosis, yet holding it together just enough to keep pushing out albums and touring. Pretty much anyone who got into his inner circle just wound up babysitting him and bewildered by how far gone he was.
They say that but I must say that I met my hero, guitarist Steve Morse, and he was the sweetest, most gracious, interesting gentleman I've ever met. I interviewed him for the newspaper the music store I worked for at the time put out. He even gave me a guitar lesson (!!!!!), a box of his picks, and tickets for the show that night (front box). He walked in through the front door and called out a "hello" to me while the audience was waiting for the show to begin. There were 2 guys behind me that went nuts! lol
I wish they'd stop associating Randy with Eddie , they were polar opposites in their approach to the guitar . Eddie wanted to be a rock star , Randy wanted to move on after he tasted the life .
Eddie and his brother Bullied and Hurt many unfairly through the bands time. Michael Anthony was the most unfairly treated and cheated by the brothers.
It’s a business man. If you owned a company, and did most of the work while your partner did very little while making the same amount of money, what would you do? Mike has millions, so to say he was cheated might be going a bit too far.
As someone who works with the homeless, many of whom have the same addictions as EVH, the behavior is consistent. When sober/clean some of these people can be very nice, but become someone completely different when they are using. Emotions take over rational thought, and terrible desperate choices leave a destructive wake in their path. I have also seen lives destroyed by average people who just had a few too many at a party resulting in arrests, injuries, divorces, and much embarrassment. Don't assume it will never affect you. Go easy and keep hold of your senses, as these substances are like a crafty devil.
I can't fathom why Michael Anthony would give up his share when the band was at their peak (before Hagar) and give up what he had left to simply tour with guys who screwed him before. He's a better man than me because we'd been in court, I would have fought to the last nickel on pure principle..
What EVH and AVH did to Michael Anthony is right up there with what Coverdale did to Sykes. In my book, worse, because of the history, contribution, & longtime success VH had. Anthony was family. EVH went to his grave without ever apologizing or trying to reconcile with Anthony. Think about that. What did Anthony ever do to EVH? Nothing, except give him a lifetime of loyalty and hard work.
@2216sammy Oh ...I see. So because Michael Anthony decided to leave that erases the fact that he was treated like Sh*T?? What would you do if you were at a place where you are being treated like crap? Stick around?? LMAO!!! 😆😆😆
@@GTRman909 ..Mike is worth $50 million thanks to the Van Halen bros..lol you'll get over it kid,, mike did...
@@TANTRUMGASM Then he should be worth a lot more. This is like what happened with the Eagles.
Its probably fake
Eh dude, haha were you there? I mean you watch some bullshit made up on youtube with their slant, badsed on facts that suit their narrative and then you take that as truth? You think the guy who posted this has 100% of the facts? Nope he's just here to post clickbait to grow his channel to make money. We are the victims here - helping this cat make money.
Raging alcoholics and drug addicts leave a wake of victims.
Raging alcoholics and drug addicts are results of even worse victimizers almost always. Most people if you treat them decent, good or great, then they do the same to you. Mess with people enough and they get upset and mess with you back. Mix in enough harassment to get people angry when sober, drunk or high and you're the source of a chain of stupid events and it can come back to haunt you.
Couldn't have said it better. Loved Eddie growing up and being a guitar player myself we sometimes live in a false sense of reality that those who impacted our lives can do no wrong. Appreciate your comment and may Eddie Van Halen RIP.
@@funkycheese6162 Yeah, I'm a huge Eddie fan as well. Seemed like a pretty good guy when he was cleaned up.
@@funkycheese6162 A lot of great artists have major flaws, unfortunately, you want them not to but it's just human nature sadly.
Compounded if they are lying, cheating, thieving, greedy, hypocritical, backstabbing bast@rds, & scumbags, & PsOS.
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In my experience & opinion.
Michael Anthony is a class act. I cannot believe the way he was treated.
..Mike is worth $50 million thanks to the Van Halen bros..lol you'll get over it kid,, mike did...
@@TANTRUMGASM thanks to his contributions to the band as well, mike earned his money putting up with them...
Evh could not initially remove Anthony from full member status. Why on earth would mike ever agree to relinquish his lawful full member status, sign legal documents, and become a salaried employee.
@@James-re1yf Micheal would rather play on the tour than fight over money. EVH would have just hired another dude anyway.
He was an idiot to stay with them.If he had left them early on he would have shown the world the true colors of the Van Halens.I am glad I never bought a single album of theirs.I did buy Roth's solo EP LP with California Girls. Peace.
When you are a slave to drinking and drugs, you destroy everyone around.
Geddy Lee of Rush is the most professional, gracious, and generous men I ever had the pleasure to meet. Sorry to hear he was so mistreated. Truly a case of 1st class meeting low class.
Mike got the last laugh, he's still above ground and people respect him.
EVH is still respected too. Even though he wasn't a good guy, his musical talent can't be disputed
@@WilliamP-y5u Well, let's just say there's a lot more "Eddie Was A Dick" videos than there are "Michael Anthony sucks" videos.
And kicking ass with Sammy Hagar's new band with Satch...a guy who actually READS MUSIC. LIKE RANDY
Rush early on in their career decided to split everything equally to avoid any rancour and to enable each member to feel valued. That loyalty to each other remained and remains rock solid even after Neil Peart’s death. They are the antithesis of EVH
Truly decent people.
Unlike EVH & AVH.
In my opinion.
Pink Floyd paid Syd Barret a share for decades after...
Pantera did that too. They did not give a shit about who wrote what.
Although I’m not a fan of Rush’s music one little bit , I’m a huge fan of their decency , fairness and band moral.
RUSH still rules!
Rush is one of the bands that stands above others as far as having class...
Absolutely. And...they are in a class all by themselves. Incredibly unique, professional and they respected their music, and each other.
Maybe I'm wrong but I heard they didn't get along.
Ged and Alex have been best friends since grade school.
@@mikeanglim8093 Okay I didn't know that.
Slayer has never had a drugged out or drunken meltdown ever
I admire Michael for hanging in there, what an amazing human being ❤❤
At least everyone will remember him as the bassist of the band, not the fat nepo kid.
Randy was a musician's musician. He didn't drink or do drugs and was kind to his fans.
He drank a little. Never used drugs tho.
RANDY PLAYED BRIGHT AND CLEAR....... EDDIE WAS SLOPPY AND TO HIDE THAT HE WAAAAAAY OVERUSED HIS tremolo bar. If he didn't have access to one. Just imagine how different people would feel. Randy did classical compositions and rarely used a tremolo. He never had a Floyd Rose just stock tremolo systems......but then again he didn't need it....RANDY AND GEORGE WERE BOTH BETTER. GO PLAY VAN HALEN 1.....SIMPLE SHIT
@@eyeofhorus70yes we've all seen the documentaries. You say it like he was your neighbor.......smh
@@DonaldTrumps-zc5mu Simple shit? If that's the case, for somebody to make "simple shit" and sell albums BEFORE mtv. That's the ticket, if you wanna make money. And in the end, my friend, it's all subjective.
@@hyacinthlynch843 All day Every Day Rhoads was as humble as they come .one time while on tour he was at a mall is some city where they were gonna play that night and was walking around with Rudy Sarso and these two teenagers that played guitar recognized them and were asking him about how he did this lick or that riff and Randy said it's hard to tell you how without his guitar and the teens asked Randy if they wanted to come over to their house so he could help him and Randy said yeah lmao .him and Rudy jumped in their car and went to dudes house and brought him in and the guys family tripped the f*ck out when Randy Rhoads and Rudy Sarso comes walking through the door and starts giving this kid a lesson like he was just one of the gang..TRUE STORY Rudy has told it many times and it was published in a 1981 Issue of Hit Parader that year .now can you imagine Eddie or anyone else doing that lmfao
I remember after DLR split from VH, Eddie said “Dave Lee Roth is an asshole”; and in a characteristically sarcastic and understated retort, DLR said “Some people are never happy unless they’re unhappy” lol
I think he was right and I think Ed didn't like that Dave could do something successful without him.
To be fair, I'm sure there were times when DLR COULD be an a-hole, but Eddie is also guilty of the same thing.
@@davidl570 I agree, it’s just I think DLR handled it better with great humour!!
@@GloryCarrier22 Very good point!
Rush offering to share their booze rather than avoid conflict (and then Geddy Lee trying to approach EVH to make amends for something THE LATTER did) has to be the most stereotypically Canadian thing ever.
Quintessentially RUSH.
I understand Canadians have a version of the game “Jeopardy” except all the answers have to be phrased as an apology.
@@charleschidsey2831 🤣🤣
@@charleschidsey2831There’s that version … where you always answer like … “Sorry, is it actually ‘Dewey Decimal System’, Alex?” or “I’m sorry, but I think it’s ‘J. Edgar Hoover’s lace garters?’”.
There’s also the “Canadian Culture Edition” where the Categories are things like “Things American’s Didn’t Discover / (Discoveries)” and “Olympic Medals the US Didn’t Win / (The Olympics)” and “Things Americans Didn’t Say / (Sayings)” and so on. And all the questions are always chosen ahead of time so that the correct answers are never “the USA” or “America” or “Americans” or some American person or place or things, etc. And you answer as normally, in terms of a question, EXCEPT when the correct answer involves Canada or a Canadian and then you answer in terms of an apology … “Sorry, Alex, but what is Basketball?” or “Sorry to have to say this, but what is the Wonderbra, Alex?” or “Gosh, we’re sorry, but … um … who is ‘Superman’?” And the worst of all maybe … “We can’t apologize enough for this but … who is Ted Cruz?”
@@B_Estes_Undegöetz Sorry, but those rules sound complex enough for a German board game.
How anyone could have a problem with Geddy Lee is unfathomable.
Geddy was playing RUSH music on his boombox and Edward dumped a beer on it. At least that was the story I heard back in the day.
Eddie was just an entitled prick.You can pour sugar on crap, but it's still crap.
@@KennethSchamehorn Eddie was uniquely talented and thought that gave him special privilege over other members which tbf is right. The fact he gave everyone song writing credits on songs they didn't help write for so long, blows my mind.
@@crouchingtiger9108 yea, a graceless narcissist
@@JV-tg2ne Sounds like he was super talented guitarist but a Schmuck at the same time
Imagine thinking smoking weed is bad but doing crack, meth and pills are no prob
I know right
Yeah, when he was claiming that holding a penny in his mouth gave him cancer.....oh yeah, that was it Ed. Not the decades of smoking cigarettes and weed and meth and other garbage.....no, you're right, it was the penny......🙄🙄🙄🙄
Publicity and money most likely every single event
@@Sickofsociety1 Weed doesn't do any of that to you.
Michael Anthony was THE ONLY member that was not a total asshole!! How’s that greed working out for you now ED you scum bag??
MAAAN! Randy Rhoads didn't need to learn anything from Eddie Van Halen, he grew up in an incredible musical household and while he did probably do some similar things with Eddie like tapping and whammy-bar theatrics, there was a classical composition structural quality to Rhoads playing and his songwriting on the Ozzy albums he worked on that IMHO are unmatched today. So many parts of that album like the guitar comping part of Over The Mountain and so many other things give me shivers down my spine. Had Randy Rhoads lived, I have no doubt he'd have had a powerful and wide ranging impact on music as a performer/songwriter and perhaps even producing other artists and film score composer.
Agreed, they both have talent to be sure, but they are not comparable. Eddie showed off, Randy weaved a tale with his every riff and solo.
I cannot even begin to imagine what Randy Rhoades could've created if he hadn't taken up that damn plane ride.
Drove them around for a weekend in a limo in 95. Sammy refused to ride with them. I can honestly say, they were the absolute worst people I ever had the misfortune of driving. Eddie was totally horrible. Sammy, on the other hand, is the nicest man I ever met.
I believe it....
So wonderful to see Michael on stage with Sammy a couple years back. They were just having a wonderful time together
Geddy Lee and the other members of Rush are revered and respected by their peers, not only as musicians, but as warm, generous human beings. Eddie Van Halen…not so much.
Along with Michael Anthony, Randy Rhodes, Sammy Hagar? All musicians that absolutely nobody else on the planet has ever taken issue with.
@@nucleargrizzly1776 I know some VH fans who take issue with SH. But that's another story. 🤣
Jews have great PR people
Many groups have had friendly relations.I don't see why anyone would put up with assholes and like it to continue.
And what matters most at the end of the day? (When Lee dies people will cry.)
Randy didn't have a problem with Eddie, Eddie had a problem with Randy. Eddie knew a great guitarist when he saw one and he felt threatened by it.
Very likely.
Randy had an ear and borrowed liberally. Edward didn't think RR did anything innovative. Threatened? I'm not sure EVH saw RR as in the same league.
Then why did Eddie care so much as to talk shit If he thought he was so much better than Randy ?
it was weird his hang up with Randy, he seemed almost insecure about him
@@cbotten106 well that is because really did not listen or he was in denial, Randy changed the game in many ways just ask Grover jackson. Ed did not really do anything innovative, he simply popularized what others did before him on a grand stage.
Glad we are at that point in the grieving process where we can finally admit Eddie was an assaholis
When you're dealing with a competitive environment, there's not really much of a choice. You're either an asshole, or others will EAT your asshole. Even if only metaphorically speaking. But sometimes, EVEN LITERALLY. Lol. Human nature.
Yeah and I bet YOU are a ROCK SOLID human, and everyone who knows you ONLY has good things to say about. DCKHED
@@HeathenDance It's really about Ed being a complete jerk and asshat due to his alcohol and narcotics addictions.
His betrayal and thievery from Anthony, who was an integral part of the band, its sound and who there from the very beginning is one glaring example.
Bands, esp. big bands like VH have managers, promoters and attorney's to deal with that 'competitive environment'. Ed conducted his asshattery on his own.
@@smoothtalkerguitarsuk4431...but...but what about... It doesn't matter if the OP is awesome or a scumbag. The truth is the truth, and sometimes it hurts. Just like your fragile feeling got hurt and triggered.
@@section8usmc53 what does that mean? Were you there? Two people have a fight, they both tell the story about how things happened, what the dynamic was etc etc. Well, here, you nor I were ever in the room with any of them. Its got effall to do with my feelings at all. Have a read of this guys youtube channels other vids. Its all just bllsht clickbait crap. So if you feel you knew Eddie and how he started it all back in the day, and who was at fault for what - I applaud you. But NONE of us here knew him nor the rest of the guys.
Geddy Lee is the grooviest cat in rock and roll. Watch any interview of him.
Eddie was a guy who made it at a pretty early age, and never had to grow up emotionally. His foray into hard drugs will always stain his legacy. He was known for treating people around him real bad...ask Michael Anthony, Sammy Hagar, and Rush band members, and many others.
I read that he studied classical guitar, so he had the formal musical instructions early on as a kid. Those "riffs" he played are quite common in classical guitar playing. Understandably many non-musicians would not know this fact and you can search and find many classical guitarists in YT, that play just as well as EVH. Those "riffs" are status-quo in their field of playing. And I agree, he never had to grow-up emotionally. I have seen this in other industries when the "kid" took over his dad's business. They never had to struggle and learn.
Yeah, we watched the video...
Randy was obviously a much nicer person than Eddie. If he had lived and Eddie had passed at a young age, Randy would have been a much better role model than Eddie for sure.
There is NO QUESTION about that! Randy was a polite, humble human being, raised by a wonderful mother, Delores Rhoads...and he was one helluva KICK ASS guitarist.🎸🔥 RIP RR 🙏
Yes Randy seemed like a really cool guy and a very Humble virtuoso! Even being as talented and solid as he was as an all around guitar player and lead player....I read in many interviews done with Randy that practically every town he was touring around the world...He paid guitar teachers and other guitarist for lessons from them. Because even though he was truly AWESOME...he never acted like he was better than anyone and always strived to learn new things from others to improve himself!
he was a better guitar player too.
I've always preffered Randy to Eddie, even though they were both very impressive. Never got the chance to see Randy live but when I saw Van Halen I was greatly dissapointed by the entire performance. It's possible I caught them on an off night. Sammy could'nt hit the high notes (not even close) and Eddie was basically rambling on guitar. It was weird.
@@angelainamarie9656 lol
The Van Halen’s had a problem with anyone not named Van Halen.
BTW, you didn’t mention all the times he cheated on Valerie Bertinelli. Real swell guy.
Very true. Eddie had a double standard. If Dave or Mike wanted to do a side project with others. he'd have a fit and talk about "loyalty" tot he band...YET...he did "Beat it" for Michael Jackson, and some other side projects, including a movie soundtrack. The way he did Mike Anthony. was pretty disgusting. That guy was a brother....he was there from the word GO. Sammy had said, that when Eddie took control of the bacnd...it was like being on a plane....and the pilot was blind and high.
@@andrestamayo6509…..I agree with you 100%. I’ll always love the music, but EVH & AVH as people, not so much.
@@MrOccyc Well, do we know that about Alex?
@@robertlamkin6464 People do not realize Alex was always the true leader of VH but EVH was Alex's mouthpiece. Almost every vile thing Eddie ever said originated with Alex. I felt sorry for Eddie because Alex knew exactly how to control him and played his own younger brother like a puppet.
@@tedwojtasik8781 Is that right? I did not know that. How disappointing.
They did Mike dirty.
Greed is funny cause from the outside this is how it looks as who gained and kept the most money from the actual band, not including other businesses and such.
#1 DLR
#2 Valerie as she wiped Ed out.
#3 Sammy
#4 Ed’s cocaine and meth dealer
#5 Heineken and Philip Morris
#6 All of Alex’s ex wives.
#7 IRS from all of Alex’s unpaid back taxes
#8 Alex’s divorce and tax lawyers
#9 Micheal Anthony
#10 Edward himself and now Wolf
#11 Alex
Mike made out great with Van Halen as Mike didn't write any of the songs...If it was me i wouldn't complain either
Sammy has 150 mil compared to daves 60 mil
@@mattmorris4016 Sounds like they are all crying at the bank . Sammy has been pretty industrious outside of VH too.
@@mattmorris4016 Yeah but that's overpriced tequila money, not Van Hagar money.
I would not have people working for me who didn't know who Geddy Lee was!!
8:31 - Eddie and Sammy met in 1978, not 1985. As a solo act, Sammy opened for Van Halen in Anaheim, CA on 9/23/78
Ed was a coke-addict. Coke and cigs. He was lucky to make it to the age he did.
Many in this profession are. They all have dope dealers everywhere they go. The entertainment business is not exactly a holy business. It's lawyers, accountants, dirty groupies and A LOT of drugs
Very true. Being an active and creative person always helps.
Alcohol was his main addiction with everything else following. I read that he used cocaine as a song writing tool to keep going. One isn’t any better than the other of course.
Yeah, he was a big drunk. That was one of the number 1 things. Of course, all the others went along with it, but he was mostly a drunk but I still love him.
Slowest suicide I've ever seen
Whenever someone says, "it's everyone's fault but mine", I know whose fault it is.
Van Halen would not have been van halen without Michael Anthony....
The only member of the band with no big ego!
Van Halen would have not been Van Halen without Eddie Van Halen either.
Idk man that's kinda a far stretch
the killer harmony in the band
@@Plane-Jane-td2ms listen to them after Eddie kicked him out, that's the proof. not far fetched at all.
Watching this video it becomes clear why an evh tribute concert never materializes. Too much bad memories for some of his peers.
The image of Motley Crue's trailer being suspended in the air to keep them out of trouble is just hilarious.
I bet they still yelled out the window and told Eddie to go f*ck himself. I would have loved to have seen that.
Right up there with Waylon tying George Jones to a tree. 😂
Well.....they were a......motley crew, that Mötley Crüe.
How could you not recognize of all people, Geddy Lee?? That is nuts. Sounds like Eddie's security were intentional.
Well it was in England, maybe Geddy-lookalikes are running around all over the place?
One thing people don’t really know about Eddie is he didn’t really listen to others music. He was also fairly sheltered after they became famous. But I get it. I mean Ged pretty much only looks like Ged 😅
The price of fame and fortune.
It's sad, how the Van Halen brothers treated Michael, but in the end, Mike's living his best life, playing in various bands with Sammy, and Eddie? He's still dead.
I'm sure Alex is raking it in with his solo album Little Drummer Boy....
@@EinwetokHuh? I just read news that he auctioned-off all his gear and is done with music.
@@dalestroup9495 LOL It's a sarcastic joke.
@@Einwetok why would anyone think that was funny?
STOP BEING SO STUPID
I know personally from one of Randy's best friends Lori, Randy was packing up at the whiskey in 78, at the back when Roth and Ed drove up in a Mercedes started teasing Randy saying he would never get a car like this. Lori slapped Roth and they drove off. Ed and Randy were in line at a club Randy tried to talk to him before this and Ed blew him off. Randy wanted to know how he kept his guitar in tune with the tremolo. He was a jerk to him.
He was threatened by Randy.
@@rich52569 he was insecure about Randy especially once Randy won that reader's poll in the U.K. he knew Randy was every bit as talented as himself.
Why he refused to partake in the Rhoads documentary we will never know
Eddie never claimed he taught Randy Rhoads. He said "Everything he learned, (meaning the tricks Eddie did on guitar) he learned from me." Randy had students who wanted to play Van Halen songs so Randy had to learn the songs in order to teach his students. One thing this video left out is the fact that Eddie never offered condolences to Michael Anthony when his infant grandson passed away. If you've seen the video of Sammy and Mike that was made right after Eddie died, you can see Mike doesn't look saddened. Who could blame him?
Now THERE’s two opposite ends of the rainbow for ya!
Van Halen at one end (screwing over non-Van Halens), and Rush at the other.
When Neil went on his sabbatical after the losses of his wife and his daughter … Geddy and Alex chose to do nothing without Neil Peart … THAT … boys and girls, is LOYALTY!!
He dissaproved of marijuana but his teeth fell out from meth, crack, alcohol, pills, etc.!???😮
right!? lol
I guess he just didn't want to feel mellow.😮
And his tongue turned black.
Aquarius gone wrong.
Yep its usually publicity stunts lol. Fred durst was well known for starting fake fights to get publicity and doing other crazy stunts.
What the fuck EVH Michael Anthony is a beast no Van Halen without Michael Anthony because his backing vocals
..Mike is worth $50 million thanks to the Van Halen bros..lol you'll get over it kid,, mike did...
@@TANTRUMGASM Nice try, Alex.
Don't kick a dead man for things he did when he was an addict. The man made many enemies, and reconciled with quite a few of them before the end. Can you say the same?
@@TANTRUMGASM You're like a skipping record, dude. Somebody take the needle off.
@@TANTRUMGASM Mike is worth $50 million because of his business acumen. EVH wanted Mike to end his condiment business, he thought is was beneath the dignity of the band. Luckily, Mike refused.
Sadly alcohol turns many people into jerks. Eddie was one of em.
The Lynyrd Skynyrd guys had plenty of tales about Ronnie Van Zant's using his fists to resolve any problems, and sure enough, there's that familiar trope: Great guy, would give you the shirt off his back, until he hit the bottle and could have auditioned for Jack's part in "The Shining". There were signs that he had figured that out by the time of the plane crash.
Drugs and alcohol doesn't turn people into jerks, it just shows their true colors. It lets down the barriers.
Blaming the alcohol is pathetic
Wrong. Jerks turn to alcohol and drugs because they are jerks.
weak will allows people to turn themselves into jerks.
I'm no fan of Durst but unless the recanting of this tale is incomplete, how does Eddie's leaving his gear at Durst's place constitute wrongdoing on Dursts part? I would never up and leave my rig at someones place who I don't know that well.
Given the quality of this videos information, you can rest assure that the "tale is incomplete" or perhaps close to complete fabrication. I think they were supposedly jamming together and had a blow up but EVH leaving his guitar behind sounds dubious, tbh.
@@cbotten106 For sure man
The tapping technique was around long before Eddie.
Like in the 1929's eddy Lang jazz guitarist was tapping on an acoustic guitar !!😊
Eddie tremolo technique still no one can repeat, think about it
I’ll say it 1000 times, it wasn’t Sammy who killed Van Halen.
@@TruePiturd He had a vibrato technique, not tremolo. Don't repeat Fender's false terminology.
@@haliaeetus8221 idk fenders terminology, what i mean is fast repeat picking of single note, and Eddie make it like balalayka player, not like fast alternate picking, and this type of vibrato/tremolo sounds so cool. Nobody can do that
Im glad that Eddie's real persona is being examined now. When he died several years ago he could do no wrong.
Well, Michael Anthony is still here living life and eddie is.....RIP
THAT says it all....
Not wrong there man
👍
VH will always have a black cloud hanging over them for what they did to Michael. (Mick Mars going thru it right now
)--Michael Anthony is the one who inspired me to pick up a bass 🎸
I'd listen to a Mick Mars/Mike Anthony song or songs.
Totally agree.
Great points on Mick Mars...Same Ole Situation (Pardon the pun)
I read that when Rush was the opening act for KISS, after the show KISS would party hard with the women in the hotel while Rush were sitting in their hotel room, watching t.v., chilling, all three hanging out together.
I like RUSH quite a bit, but I could never get into KISS. They seemed so gimmicky.
Alex would crack Ace up when Geddy, Alex and Ace were hanging out together. Gene and Paul HATED that.
@@synthonaplinth5980 Yeah, with the laundry bag over his head.
In that situation, I'd prefer to hang with Rush (even it meant I wouldn't get laid that night, LOL).
@@davidl570 Same with me. I would enjoy their company, not hang with KISS.
Anthony should never have sold his rights off.
He knows...He finally wised up after Eddie went after whatever little he had left...Should never have agreed to the first attempt, much less the second!!
"Eddie was profoundly disappointed with Durst's lack of musical talent." So were the rest of us.
I'm profoundly disappointed in EVH's lack of decency, integrity, humanity, & redeeming qualities.
In my opinion.
LOL!
He did it all for the nookie.
Durst's whole band
@@robf6105 LMAO!
As an ex-fan, I never got past how Michael Anthony was treated.
And did David Lee Roth quit to expand his musical horizons, or to get away from the disease that was EVH?!
@@johnfranco1450A little of both perhaps? I read somewhere that DLR, in high school, was that guy who was “cool” with literally everybody. Musically, he was equally open minded, as a lot of his stage moves were right out of vaudeville. It’s not difficult to imagine that the day came where he (for all his own issues) simply couldn’t deal with someone who was the product of a far more toxic environment and carried himself accordingly…even if that guy was an innovator.
Geddy probably paid no mind to it all because in the end he was 10 times the legend EVH could ever hope to be.
and then you woke up. R.I.P. King Edward
@@TLGZOID I'm shocked how many of these fools know nothing 😂😂😂😂
Geddy just sent me a text to let you know Knee-pads are on sale at Home-depot 😂😂😂😂
@2216sammy ikr what an idiottttt 🤣🤣
VH was not that band without Anthony's mesmerizing backround vocals. He also left room for Eddie to be the main instrument freeing up Edd to do as he wished. Eddie Van Halen was a dick.
Eddie's Glory Days was over 28 years ago..
Thought it was 40 years ago.
FYI if you're "Running with the Devil" remember that he is the destroyer.
Yep, 110%.
Running, or playing with the 😈 results in a Hell of a eternal payday in this life or the next
I loved Van Halen. A huge part of life for me. Alcoholism, drug addiction and cigarettes took Eddie's soul. Ego turns into insanity. He hurt many good people. I still have a great love for the man. Rest in peace 🎸.
Lot's of alcoholics, drug abusers and smokers remain good people. Eddie just revealed who he was.
Be real are any of them role models. It is amazing how people wait until people die to sling mud on them.
The victims of Eddie Van Halen? 🤔 Everyone who paid to see the last two Van Halen tours! 🎸😆👍
Ahhhh a Roth disliker…..because after Ed got sober, and got his hand and firearm repaired due to bone spurs and tendon issues, he played amazingly on the last tour especially. Roth….yeah his vocals left fans wanting better maybe, but when he first committed to the reunion he was trying to really be the singer of old, but Ed wasn’t in a good place.
Chemistry was undeniable, but the last tour was only Roth who wasn’t quite on point. Ed…he played so good. Imho. Rock on!
@@Kinger1625 well Said ❤
2015 tour.
😂😂😂
Victims of Dave. Eddie was on point. And I love Dave before the breakup and in the studio.
I loved Eddie’s guitar work but when he was caught cheating on Valerie he lost my “idol worship” standards. His ego was off the charts. RUSH is a great band and no one can dispute that!
Val admits to cheating first....
Imagine being some blockhead security guy finding out you just fucked up Geddy Lee. I don't think I could live with myself.
I knew 2 people that met him. One loved him, the other was a Peavey dealer that refused to have any VanHalen stuff in his store.
I met him, backstage in Houston in '86. We were the Kramer dealer, and gave away a guitar to be handed off by EVH. I spent almost the entire time (maybe 15 minutes) talking to Mike, what a great guy. Eddie was about the most obnoxious, mean, insufferable a$$hole I ever met. Everybody with us walked in revering him, and leaving despising him. I didn't know about the substance abuse at the time.
Yeah, the Michael Anthony situation was pretty fu**ed up you guys. But we ain’t perfect, none of us are. And Sammy who is the richest of them all took Michael under his wing and they are doing pretty good these days. Plus, Michael ain’t broke, he banked more money than most of us can only dream of. So ain’t no point feeling sorry for any of these guys. Michael lives in a mansion and has a net worth over 50 million dollars. I think he’s alright 😂
exactly
It's messed up, but I kinda get it. Eddie Van Halen wrote all the best stuff and he should be compensated as such.
So if someone is doing ok it is alright to treat them dirty. Got it.
@@scottcaldwell7480 Michael is doing more than ' OK ' Got it??
@@scottcaldwell7480 Is that what you got out of what I wrote 😂 wow.. What does it say in my first sentence? Does " fu**ed up" mean "ok” to you? Got it. And there is this thing called perspective. Yeah, you can say it was fu**ed and put it in perspective at the same time. Amazing right?
I hate hearing how addiction problems are the excuse to be a shitty person.WRONG!
When someone is high they become a new person its not them and they have no control
@@KlokLogic Their real self comes out.
@@rich52569 He had no control
I know addicts who are not a shitty person and I know some who definitely are.
I agree. Generally the addiction brings out the real personality that is hiding just below the surface.
Most Rock bands have little respect for the bass player in general.
The guitar player,lead singer and drummer get all the praise.
In Prog and Fusion they get more respect and elevation.
It's not just rock bands. Orchestras sort of have a running joke about the expendability of the bass section of the strings. It's a real thing.
I have always wondered how much Greater Randy Rhoads could have been if he had lived to build his own band. Watching those two gods battle to be the best in rock would have been one hell of an era... Wow, If only. RIP
Won't smoke weed but does every other hard drug.
That's such typical thinking of people who've never burned trees before.
Are you honestly implying that Ed Van Halen hadn't smoked weed before? I'm not defending all the stuff Ed did or didn't do, but his negative attitude about marijuana was absolutely not based on a lack of experience with it.
@@davenathan5347 I quit drinking and everything else just to burn my original favorite! Speaking of which, the natives are smiling and passing along a sample of their yield now...!!!
I feel bad for Valerie Bertinelli. One of my crushes as a little kid.
Yep, One Day At A Time cutie.
I don't. Both she and Ed married other people. After Ed died, she acted like neither of them existed and went all over interview shows like she hadn't been divorced for like 20 years.
@@scottm8579 That's still on her. Everyone knows staying to "fix" someone is a fool's errand. Anyone I've known who's in recovery said you have to do it for you, not because someone else is staying around.
@@Scott__C I think she had a few habits of her own also.
Valerie is an attention whore
Eddie paid with his life. May we all be lucky to live twice as long.
I laughed out loudly that he confronted Durst's (Limp Biskit) complete lack of musicianship.
You can’t argue with Limp Biskit part
He was certainly right about that!
I have met, and hung out with Mikey...far away from any of the fame and money.
He is a genuinely, super good guy.
Not once, have he and I talked about his career.
We have had times, talking about boating, and
cars... or just the subjects of the day.
Kind and friendly guy, who appreciates his success, but doesn't even mention it.
Y'all can hate me if you want but I honestly believe that if Randy Rhodes had as long of a career as Eddie Randy might be considered the best. He was trained as a classical guitarist and you can hear it in his work with Ozzy. As a guitarist shredding is not as important as creating emotions through unique sound through the different modes. Randy was great at it.
A lot of people, millions agree with you. Some think he was better already.
The only issue would have been when Randy quit Blizzard of ozz, to do other things...how would that have played out./ Ranhdy was so melodic and more learned. on guitar
I don't hate you. I agree with you 100%.
@@Lokisdottir1964 there are millions who also agree
What surprises me is that Eddie Van Halen had a semi automatic pistol at 7:54 which suddenly turned into a revolver at 8:10. 🤔
He likely had an arsenal, alcohol and coke, are a recipe for paranoia. Plus, he was always rolling in mega-buck autos. He could have pulled the Uzi out of the boot but figured a pistol would be sufficient for an equipment pickup.
@@cbotten106
I was just being a smartass with this comment. He probably did have an arsenal. I know I would if I had that kind of money and I’m not even paranoid but this was some kind of magic gun that changed into another gun while he was holding it. I’m sure it was stock footage and they didn’t bother to check continuity because no way he went there with a cameraman.
i love the absolutely meaningless raw dogging of fred durst in this vid lmao
Yeah Eddie thought the sun and the moon rose due to his playing and tried publicly to take credit for Rhodes and many other success in and around the Los Angeles music scene .in all honesty in the very early stages Rhoads was farther along as a musician than Ed due to his vast musical knowledge .Randy talents greatly exceeded his teachers and soon had amassed large number of young and older students himself that were seeking to learn to play the instrument .you can find recordings of both of them in the early 70s and Rhoads was a better player when both first formed bands as young teenagers .its true Eddie's playing had improved dramatically as the decade neared the mid to late point .Ed followed a more hard rock path while Randy was inspired by artists from the more commercial and mainstream rock like David Bowie and others .but Rhoads after moving to the Uk was cast with older more seasoned an accomplished musicians in Bob Daisley .Lee Kerslake and others he started paying a lot of attention to for the first time .this is when Rhoads improved drastically as a player and even more as a songwriter and composer .Eddie was jealous of the Attention Rhoads had started getting and couldn't help but lash out due to his overinflatted ego
Thank you for this. I've been pushing back against what I've come to think of as the Cult of Van Halen for years. A lot of people seem to think that if you're great at the guitar, it means you are somehow more than human and above reproach with regards to any of your bad behaviors, and even that somehow you can do no wrong, or that you must be some kind of saint in every aspect of your life. EVH was a complicated human being. For certain a lot of people talk about how good he could be to them. A lot of those same people also talk about how awful he could become, and how suddenly. He was actually very talkative at the different stages of his life, whether strung out on meth or coke, or even when sober, and left behind a very public record of bad behaviors, harmful words directed at others, and proof positive of a titanic ego that could make him very condescending, selfish and disrespectful at times. He was in every way a classic vulnerable narcissist. He was a helluva talent, to be sure, but he was a human being and often did not live up to his potential and hype. More to the point, as good and as much an innovator as he was, he still borrowed ideas from others, and being human, was copyable and even able to be bettered by other players. Yet his cult can be so toxic that they are willing to throw a punch to defend him (a very real threat if you were critical of him during the time I grew up), and many of them refused to believe that Eddie's son Wolfgang could play so much like him at the Taylor Hawkins benefit, to the point where they accused him of faking it to a backing track and even threatened him - and each other - online. There's a real danger in forgetting that our favorite celebrities are really just people. We can see the effects of toxic celebrity every day in our politics now.
A friend of mine worked for Limp Bizkit when this happened, and Eddie showed up with a crowbar and an Uzi. After that, we called him Uzi Van Halen. lol
As big a band as they were, they squandered a lot of their prime with all the in fighting, line up changes and of course the drug use.
You've got to get that partying in while you can. Because it don't last forever.
According to Monk, Alex was the heavy dealing with Anthony . It was always Alex making the big hard decisions . This from the reading of Monks own book .
Nothing new here by any means . Remember what happened to Don Felder when he questioned the Dynamic Duo and wanted to see the books .
agreed.
I think Ed when he decided he needed the lion's share, then manipulated others like Al to do his bidding.
Yes, Felder got sqashed just like Randy Meisner. Henley and Frey were just as nasty as EVH!
A lot of blame falls on Jan Van Halen --- he started his sons Eddie and Alex on the path towards alcohol and nicotine addiction --- just a lousy father overall
Yeah, supposedly EVH (when still in his early teens) asked his father how to deal with nerves before the show and his dad told him to get loaded...always worked for Jan. Also, remember, Jan was European and they have a bit different way of looking at early drinking, or did at that time. I don't know if that makes you a lousy father but certainly a iffy role model.
@@cbotten106 According to Alex's book, drinking was a typical thing that they did. And it wasn't just Eddie, Alex and Jan either. When they'd meet up with other Van Halen family members, they'd all be drinking and smoking because, at the time, it was the social thing to do.
As a 80's teen, after Dave left the band VH never had that same charisma I guess you could say to me anyways.. Jmo.
Dave was Van Halen. Eddie and Sammy could only produce bubble gum love rock songs.
The best party band of all time became soccer mom "rock".
I liked it at first, because I liked Sammy's solo stuff and it was new for them. But to me, a lot of the songs don't hold up over time.
Mike Anthony was treated like Roger Waters treated Rick Wright...
An integral part of the band relegated to a "hired gun" status.
I'm kind of sorry that I watched this. I had such high esteem for Eddie. Now I realize he was just like most of the others when it came to greed and crapping on people Sammy and Micheal Anthony are the real class acts of this clown show.
That's not really true though, while Michael Anthony is a very good guy, it was never fair for him to have 25% of the royalties when he never wrote a song for Van Halen
And Sammy, well if we're talking about egoes and greed then Sammy is no saint
Are you KIDDING?! The original Deal was that they all got 25%.
Mike did help write songs adding his creative bass lines and high singing harmonies...I'm sure he had input to Eds writing...ideas bouncing off from others helped them write songs!
So by your reasoning Alex shouldn't get paid much either because he was a drummer! Man never played a musical note anywhere! Well?
Maybe you should stick to selling fruit... because you are obviously Bananas! Lol
@@dalestroup9495 the way they worked, Eddie had the whole song worked out before he called Dave/Sammy and Michael into the studio to record their stuff, he had a finished demo and sometimes, like with Fair Warning, Eddie had an entire album finished when he called Dave and Mike in.
Your reasoning with Alex is sound, however Alex was most often in the studio with Ed when he developed the songs, neither of which Mike or Sammy were, with exceptions of course.
This isn’t an outlandish way of working, Pete Townsend of the Who did the same thing, and he even sang the songs as well to show Roger Daltrey what he wanted.
@@dalestroup9495 I agree with you on that Michael Anthony’s harmonies were an essential part of Van Halen’s sound, so he should absolutely get credit. I just do not believe he should get the same cut as Eddie.
The 80s was such a unique time
Back then a lead guitarist could be as or more famous than the singer
Name a guitarist in music from a band formed in the last 5 years
Harry Feltasnatch
The rock era is over though.
@@alukuhito I know. Now it’s the make every song sound the same with someone else singing terribly over it adjusted by auto tune
@@alukuhito my point is the music industry has evolved away from the musician and now only focuses on the vocalist
That’s my point
@@donmcglothlin841 The rock era is basically over. In rock, guitar was considered very important, which is why you had famous guitarists who weren't necessarily vocalists.
I saw David Lee Roth in Seattle. His backup band was The Atomic Punks, who were an EVH tribute band.
Anthony’s contributions to Van Halen were massive.
I remember when Van Halen broke up, and rumors were that Sammy Hagar was going to be the new singer. I remember that that was the weirdest thing and we all wondered what it would sound like, we could not picture it at all. Then we were shocked how good it sounded. Sammy Hagar was his own thing. It was weird for us to picture him in Van Halen when we were younger. David Lee Roth is still the goat of Van Halen if you ask me, but Sammy Hagar did great.
What he did to Michael Anthony was one of the lowest things he ever did.
It was, but I wonder why Mike just kept agreeing to all that stuff. He would have been better off to tell Eddie to kiss his ass and going to another band where he was treated fairly. 🤔
Eddie Van Halen was my most favorite guitarist of all-time, my music hero, but after totally knowing what they did to Michael Anthony, my admiration to this guy just plummeted.
Eddie rubbed everyone wrong, eventually.
And rubbed himself outta life
Met Michael and Sammy in Feb. Super humble, nice guys
I don’t know why people still debate these two guitarists all these years later. Anything Eddie could Randy could do better. Randy was a composer and had elaborate feeling that Eddie couldn’t even touch.
Without DLR we'd never have even known VH. Anthony, total gentleman and class act.
It's ashamed when ego and addictions destroy everyone around them. Poor Michael Anthony was a victim.
..grow up lady, Mike is worth $50 million thanks to the Van Halen bros..lol you'll get over it kid,, mike did...
@TANTRUMGASM really??? You feel the need to snipe at me. I think it's YOU that needs to grow up. I have the right to my opinion as well as you do. But I don't have the right to be rude.
@@LISAFOSTERSPLANEThe's very diligent about posting that same comment, over and over... Apparently it's immature to talk about Michael Anthony because he's worth 50 million.
I can totally relate to Eddie Van Halans downfall. Music is a spiritual realm which can open up all kinds of enlightenment. However, that can also be the curse. The need to keep your creativity and your mind soaring beyond belief. That's where the struggle begins. That's when addiction takes hold. It's at that point we will do anything and everything, to fly higher then anyone has ever done before. No matter the cost to everyone around us. We reach out and will grab at the things that help fill the void no matter how superficial they are
Well said.
This is why as a musician myself and a guitar player, I have little to no respect for Eddie Van Halen. His fame and fortune when straight to his head. To me the way he done Michael Anthony, Sammy Hagar, and Randy Rhods is unforgivable in my book. Sammy had much, much more talent and experience than Eddie and could give Eddie all he wanted on a guitar as well. Randy Rhodes was a trained and educated musican and every bit as good as Eddie on guitar as well. Maybe even better. If Randy had not died so young in that tragic accident, I strongly believe he would have surpassed Eddie on the guitar at some point. Eddie was good on guitar, but way over rated in my book...
I don’t know the details, but Michael Anthony did not have to relinquish control if he had a contract. Not sure why he did.
Same reason a guy chews his arm off when he wakes up in the morning and sees who he brought home last night! : ) Anything to get away!
I dunno, I liked VH back in the day I guess. Eddie wasnt near the guitarist Rhodes was. Sure he had fast fingers and could string a note casserole together, but as a pure rock guitarist, Rhodes ALL the way!
Rhoads. Randy Rhoads.
agree
EVH was an condescending egotistical narcissist doink, who thought his poop smelled like roses, but He forever changed rock guitar and we all know it. Loved Rhoads too. BUT...take the tone on VH1 and compare it to blizzard of oz. Randy's tone to eddie's was like comparing a kazoo to a nuke.
And Randy's guitars were cooler.
I am glad Michael is with sammy hagar because they are the best of friends. Michael has an amazing voice as well that sammy Said his background vocals were second to none.
I love Eddies early VH albums and it looks like he help to raise a good kid.
Other than that, he seemed like a real peice of work.
Team Diamond Dave.
I've read both Noel Monk's book & Sammy Hagar's book. Each tell the same story of EVH displaying symptoms of alcohol-induced psychosis, yet holding it together just enough to keep pushing out albums and touring. Pretty much anyone who got into his inner circle just wound up babysitting him and bewildered by how far gone he was.
I think Eddie was jealous of Randy Rhoads. Rhoads was awesome and Ed knew it.
They say never meet your heroes.
They say that but I must say that I met my hero, guitarist Steve Morse, and he was the sweetest, most gracious, interesting gentleman I've ever met. I interviewed him for the newspaper the music store I worked for at the time put out. He even gave me a guitar lesson (!!!!!), a box of his picks, and tickets for the show that night (front box). He walked in through the front door and called out a "hello" to me while the audience was waiting for the show to begin. There were 2 guys behind me that went nuts! lol
@@Lokisdottir1964Glad to hear it. That’s a cool story!
Geddy Lee breaks that rule
I wish they'd stop associating Randy with Eddie , they were polar opposites in their approach to the guitar .
Eddie wanted to be a rock star , Randy wanted to move on after he tasted the life .
Eddie and his brother Bullied and Hurt many unfairly through the bands time. Michael Anthony was the most unfairly treated and cheated by the brothers.
It’s a business man. If you owned a company, and did most of the work while your partner did very little while making the same amount of money, what would you do? Mike has millions, so to say he was cheated might be going a bit too far.
i'd take MA's millions over being the great narcisist EVH any day.
@@atyt11 Mike also didn't blow tons of money on drugs and I'd read he actually invested it etc.
As someone who works with the homeless, many of whom have the same addictions as EVH, the behavior is consistent. When sober/clean some of these people can be very nice, but become someone completely different when they are using. Emotions take over rational thought, and terrible desperate choices leave a destructive wake in their path.
I have also seen lives destroyed by average people who just had a few too many at a party resulting in arrests, injuries, divorces, and much embarrassment. Don't assume it will never affect you. Go easy and keep hold of your senses, as these substances are like a crafty devil.
I can't fathom why Michael Anthony would give up his share when the band was at their peak (before Hagar) and give up what he had left to simply tour with guys who screwed him before. He's a better man than me because we'd been in court, I would have fought to the last nickel on pure principle..