The Unorthodox Water Based Pomade Myth
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- Опубликовано: 25 авг 2024
- My view on the current hype on the pomade market.
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It was good fun to make.
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You need to have your own Ted talk for the pomade community
+John Yim Hahaha yeah that will be the day. Get the world into pomade.
You make these pomades look like serial killers chill dude lol
They are ;)
😂
Totally . 😂 .
wow, production quality 10/10
Thanks so much!
This video terrifies me.....
+Steve D Good! It was meant to.
This video is beautiful
+MrFireDragon Thank you Mr FireDragon
I totally agree with you. I've tried my fair share of Unorthodox waterbased pomades and they really don't compare to real grease. The only thing I found that I kind of like in that department is the "cool grease line " but those are consider more of an orthodox gel based. Don't get me wrong, I like a lot of the unorthdox waterbased pomades and think its cool what the home brewers are doing. However, they just don't work as well as oil based for my hair. Thats just me though...I have really thick hair.
+Brandon Rodriguez Yeah I like some of them too! It's just not a replacement.
I have the same problem. There is just sooo much thug and pulling using unorthodox.
The production on this is immaculate..
Nothing can give you that shine like grease does
Awesome. Felt like was watching a mystery documentary lmao
Haha thanks man. I'm glad you liked it!
Tom my man you are a legend! I certainly do not regret subscribing and making this my first video to watch! You've captured my thoughts exactly with this "unorthodox" revolution. keep doing you man. big thumbs up!
Thanks man! I truly appreciate that :)
Okay but the fact that many of them are home brewed with more natural and healthier components is also important. A salon product is mostly chemicals, lab made. And then we have quality ...
Sure that is important if you try to maintain a healthy lifestyle but that wasn't really my point. The point was that they do not resemble or replace traditional pomades. They resemble salon products (all natural if you want).
holy god dude... this is probably the most helpful video on this subject... I'm a huge fan of UWB and it hurt to watch this, but it was delivered so perfectly i cant even be mad haha... great video!
Haha thanks so much! They are still good products though. I'm just commenting on the hype and the questionable claims surrounding it. All of those claims were never made by the brewers themselves as far as I know.
Definitely cleared up my huge question of what the difference between some of these UWB "clay,wax,fiber" pomades were compared to salon pastes and what not. Such a blurred line even still haha
Awesome video. Production was awesome. I still love unorthodox water based pomades. But I laughed my ass off. That was great. :)
+Charms434 Thanks for watching. I appreciate it :)
I've yet to use an unorthodox pomade, but after discovering hair cream I really don't see the point.
I got my goon grease for that dapper look, and hair cream for when I don't want to feel anything in my hair while still keeping it styled, slick, and shiny, and hey it washes out in 1 go.
+DoodeWarrior Well if that works for you maybe that's good enough and you won't be needing anything else. I've tried a lot of products just for the fun of it and also because it can be a bit of an addiction.
Thank god somebody said this, been thinking this for a long time! Great video.
+Rambo Lee Yeah well sometimes you gotta get things off your chest
In other words. Unorthodox pomades are an emulsion of oils and water made possible through an agent that attaches to both--just like virtually all hair care products like conditioner and shampoos and soaps. Zing!
oil base is the best based
+faiz abdad Haha there is nothing like it.
thats why its "pomade"
How To Style A Pompadour - The Master Course you are the best.
Haha thanks!
this video is making me nervous yet soothing at the same time. Keep em coming!
+Prayudi A. Haha such contradictory emotions. I never thought I was able to do that.
I've been thinking the same damn thing for a while now. Granted, I love most of these "unorthodox" water-based pomades, but I didn't understand the initial and continual hype over them when they were first introduced into the traditional pomade market. Before I got into oil based pomades, I used various cream and paste products from American Crew, Tea Tree, Bedhead, etc... And these all washed out with one shampoo cycle. A couple years later, after I familiarized myself with the more traditional oil-based pomades, the whole "unorthodox, home-brew waterbased" trend started taking off, and everyone lost their shit because it gave good hold and washed out with one cycle, and I did not understand why those characteristics were being so hyped up. Like I said, I tend to like all the "unorthodox" water-based pomades that have come out lately, but I'm unwilling to act as if they're revolutionary for the pure fact that products like this have been around the whole time. To me, they're simply just good products that give me good control over the way I'd like to style my hair. Anyway, nice video and glad I'm not alone in this issue.
+gunguy999 As soon as I started to realise that these products were just (high end if you will) salon-type products it sort of made me giggle. All of these so called "real men", that were normally mocking salon products, were now getting hysterical about these uwb's. It was funny and interesting to me to see how that works and it inspired me to make this dramatised video on it. In about a year time it had drastically changed the industry in that little community.
Your production and style looks slick, very professional, great to watch, it looks great even on 480p
That is so nice to hear :) I put a lot of effort into these videos so thanks for the positive feedback!
Great video. I took a long time, but it is totally worth waiting if you get such a high quality video.
+Pierre Thanks! I'm glad you liked that! They will keep coming as long as I haver some ideas and time.
Great production value, some of the shots look plain amazing! Great work.
On the topic, you are spot on. Seems like the word POMADE is "in" right now, so clays, waxes and pastes get the label pomade to sell better and to pander to the retrofillic crowds and give them pomade without the commitment to the real oil based pomades.
Well that's the world we live in now.
+Lukáš Helcl (LukyHell) Yes it's absolutely crazy. You come in and say you love pomade and then you clench to this salon product... I don't discriminate on anyone that loves salon products, but stop saying that it's "improved" pomade and saying that petro is now replaced with this paste/clay thing!
It's like I'm watching a Myth Buster
+Charles Lyndon Duenas Yeah I'm just having fun with all these videos.
I duno why, but this was captivating to watch
Thanks! It was engineered that way ;)
Great video Tom. I myself haven't really bought a new pomade product in a while because the genre like you said is just turning into salon products. Which is fine because I'm all for using what works best, I just love how some people mock those who use hair dryers and what not yet need their salon products to be relabeled to feel comfortable.
+BW4LL Thanks! Yeah it feels like the majority is on the "unortho wagon" right now. You gotta make money right? I'm with you there. Just use what you like and works for you.
Not going to lie, reminded me of Ripleys believe it or not. Not a bad thing, pretty cool.
What is "Ripleys believe it or not?" You're making me curious
Haha that's great. I was trying to over-dramatise it. I never saw that Ripley show.
"Now, I am not here to tell you that all of these are sissy products for nancy boys and should belong to the bluemaan group" hahaha!
Couldn't agree more. This theory is absolutely legit and seems right. Well said sir #salute
Thanks man!
Man, I freaking love your videos. I hope to see more in the future! :}
+Taylor Gilligan Thank you! I appreciate that. Doing my best to make another one :)
That was so epic lol. I might try a traditional pomade know hahaha
Haha thanks man! Go for the good stuff ;)
I just think that home brewed water bases are so much healthier for your hair than anything... idk
you can't fake true shine like oil and petro can, but it's just healthier in the long run
+Joemax Abe Yeah some of them are probably more healthy for you, although there is something like PEG-40 in some of them I believe. It's all about preferences and what is more important for you. Petroleum based pomades are probably also not that healthy.
Back when I started to get interested in pomades, there were none readily available where I lived. I had to settle for Brylcreem and Co. Then American Crew brought out its men's series with its pomade among others. Years later and thanks to the internet I discovered the originals from Dax and Murrays. I belong to those guys who like a pomade that washes out easily. I also discovered that with my hair texture I'm better off using water based stuff. Some of the waterbased ones I tried should have a "best before date" because they can go stale and dry out, or even dissolve on their own. I have found what works best for me and that is most important in my books. Whether whe call it pomade, clay, fiber, cream, etc., they are all still just hairdressings. In essence it is all just chemistry in the end.
Before I forget, thanks for making another great video!
+Maxwell Smart Yes in the end we are talking about hair products and you have to use what works for you. None of them are better than the other but just give you a different experience or are made with different purposes. Just getting tired of people saying that UWB's are now replacing the petro's. It's a whole different type of product. Thanks for watching!
simple pomade made more controversial because of your editing skills awesome video.
Straight Facts
Awesome new video!! Keep making them
+Aditya Sujaya I will whenever one pops up in my mind ;) Thanks!
I’m a guy with curly hair and I really like to do combovers. What my goal is with most products I try is; to comb my curly headed self to straight hair. The only thing so far that has been 100% successful at that for me is water based pomades. Off the top of my head, the water based products I’ve tried that have worked are, railcar finegoods pomade (standard and supreme holds) Layrite standard and superhold, reuzel blue, and dapper dan. The only UWB pomades I’ve tried so far to get the same look are Shear Revival crystal lake and firsthand water based pomade. Both of those have been unsuccessful for me in achieving a curly to straight hair combover. They definitely deliver fantastic texture to my hair but I always have to do a more messy looking hairstyle with them and sometimes that’s upsetting. The only way I can achieve a combover with UWB pomades is the blow dry my hair straight and then apply the product. Anyone with curly hair ever notice this? Anything out there that also works curly hair to straight, for a nice clean shiny combover? Let me know! Guess for this particular look with my hair type...I’m a water based jelly head all day!
I hope someone has some answers for you!
I'm on the same boat as you! I have curly hair and the only way I can make my hair or styles straight is by blow drying. When I apply any type of petro, UWB, clay, or paste into damp or dried hair it comes out wavy. I have plenty oil based products but I feel like I'm either not using them right or they just don't work for my hair.
Oil based pomade will not work on curly , thick, wavy type hair . Use a water base pomade that has a strong hold . Try this brand called - Suavecito - firme hold level .
I just want your suggestion. My friend has a long hair. The length of his hair touches his eyes. What he wants to know is that are pomades good for him as he wants a shiny look but a very good hold as well. He wants to keep his hair similar to yours, upward or upward sideways. Could you give me any suggestion to what he should use or what brand is really good for that type of hairstyle that he wants, keeping in mind that it needs that shiny and really good hold. Thank you.
If you want really good hold you need a firm or a heavy hold pomade. The rule with most pomades is that the firmer they get, the less shinier they are. You can add a bit of light pomade as a topper to get some shine. With any brand of pomade you've got to learn to work with it. Good application is pretty important. Since I do not know your friend or his hair I will recommend some firm/heavy ones. Bone Crusher, Lockhart's Goon Grease or Heavy, Reuzel Pink, High Life Voodoo Brew. Goon Grease and Voodoo Brew have a pretty nice sheen of their own. If you want more shine you can use Murray's Super light, Voodoo Island or Sweet Georgia Brown Red. Any light will do basically as a topper. Use very little as it will make the hold less strong.
Thank you for making this video. I am personally a clay + wax or gel pomade depending on if I want shine or not for my bedhead hairstyles, styling paste kind of guy. That being said, it leaves one confused when you keep seeing these unorthodox water based pomades and cant figure out why they are considered pomade when they don't really have any of the characteristics of a pomade. They typically do not any shine and if they do it is minimal. Additionally, many of the time they even say clay pomade. Isn't that really just a clay then?
Hit the nail on the head with this one, the products are good, but they just aren't necessarily revolutionary. Then again, maybe I am just missing something.
Exactly my thoughts. I think most of the UWB users are not really interested in a greasy shiny look. They want it matte but at the same time want some kind of a cool product instead of a cheesy salon product.
@@Tom_le_Grand ok I dudnt get it at furst till I saw this comment. So ur point is clay, mattes, waxes etc r claiming to b water based pomades but they really aren't pomades cause they dont have the grease in them like old school. Just being called pomades to fit n sell in the industry of pomade,world.
@@toekneelorenzo2942 Yes. Pomades were a relatively simple product. UWBs have ingredients in them that relate much more to (healthy and natural) salon products. Pomade became the buzz word to market it.
welcome back my friend :D
+nick papou Thanks!
Excellent video.
I came to the same conclusion a while ago just by looking at the ingredients on the containers of various types of mass-produced "wax"/"paste" products.
That's why I've never been down the "UWB" route. I go to the supermarket for something I can wash out, but in general my shelf at home is full of traditional oil-based stuff.
I like Blackship from time to time when I don't feel like greasing
Amazing video.It would be great if you could tell us how you get your hair cut.I've been trying to get the right haircut for the pompadour but I can't figure it out.
I agree with you, we always had clays and paste products, but those salon products didn't have that control and healthy feeling that Brewers provide. What you think about some of the homebrewers putting borax to the pomades? Is it safe?
+JR H Yes there are so many products out there and not all of them work the same way. But there surely are very good ones with similar holds and control. Works differently for every hair type I guess and that goes for every type of product. You can also go all natural and healthy but they usually are very pricey. I wouldn't dare to say the effects that borax have on your health. Better ask a chemist and a (natural) health practitioner about that ;) Thanks for watching!
Black Ship UWB they use borax and wax as the emulsifying ingredients to combind oil and water phase together.
Borax banned in Europe without exception.
Here in the philippines, I can't seem to find any wax, clay or paste that is water based😢 which is why I bought a water based pomade
I also get breakouts when I use oil based products, that's the main reason why I really need a water based product
Mike Uy on your scalp or forehead? When I use oil based I try to wash my forehead after I apply (or even better just carefully apply it to my hair only from the start)
That's really great that you found a product that works for you.
Sorry I'm late. But this frikn filmography is awesome, it feels like I'm watching a documentary, very nice man
Thanks man I appreciate that! I invested some work in this one so it's always nice to get compliments
Holy Crap you make such epic videos. Thank you so much keep up the amazing job.
+Saturnino Thanks! I really appreciate that. It's fun to make them (except for the talking part haha).
Most of those styling products have a ton of chemicals in them. Look as the back of those Kevin Murphy products. I am sure they work just fine but I can't even pronounce half of that crap and i don't want it in my hair. Awesome brands like Flagship, Sheer Revival, O'Douds, Ominous Style Co. use a few natural ingredients and cost less.
+Scott Alcott That may be true. There are certainly some ingredients on there of which I have no knowledge which doesn't necessarily mean they are bad or unnatural. But let's say they are... In that case these uwb's could add something substantial to a healthy lifestyle. I guess you also choose your food and beverages with care so these products could really go with that. But still they do not in any way resemble or replace traditional pomades. They resemble salon products (all natural if you want). That doesn't mean they are bad products. I very much like Blackship and O'Douds because they work well for my hair-type. The point of this video was to give a counter reaction to all the people stating that petro-based products (which probably aren't healthy at all, who knows...) are now being replaced by these uwb's.
Fucking awesome video. I didn't think about it that way, but I think you could be right about these products being salon products in disguise in some ways. Personally, I'm totally fine with that as I've always been into salon type products. One thing I will say though, is that a lot of these unorthodox water based pomades perform BETTER than many of the salon products I used to use and that makes a difference. I still do love my oil based products as well. I used to build up for weeks at a time with no problem and only don't do so now because of reviews.
+dudewuttheheck Well they are certainly derived or equal to it in my experience. Some work better than others. Same goes for the salon products. There are so many and ofcourse they do not all work for me. But that goes for petro and gel-types as well. Blackship and O'Douds works well for my hair type. I sometimes mix them with a little bit of petro for some extra shine and slickness haha.
Love the production of this. Really enjoyable watch. I see what you mean. While im a diehard fan of Lockhart's line I really love turning to stuff like Black & White, Nu Nile, and Royal Crown for a reliable, old fashioned hair style.
Thanks man. Yeah for me that's part of the pomade experience. You work with the product as it is. If you want it to be washable and healthy than you probably should be looking for another product.
Finally, a good video on pomades thank you for making this
Thanks for watching it!
and "EEEP" lol
Which pomades do u like Tom ?
American Greaser Supply Super 90wt & 40wt, Lockhart's Goon Grease, Heavy, Medium, Pomps Not Dead Daily Grind, OG, Firmage, Sweet Georgia Brown Blue and Red, Voodoo Brew, Reuzel pink, Murray's Black Beeswax, Daimon Barber no.2, Tremolo's Aces High
Nette video Tom :D Gedurfde opzet :D
So far the best pomade or matte clay I have used is from a sample I got from @doctor_squirrel - Instagram.
I have been asking if they will be releasing it for purchase but so far not yet.
Ik heb altijd al gevonden dat waterbasis pommades geen echte pommades zijn
Het zijn handige producten.
Hi Tom,
I live in Amsterdam.
I'm into pompadours since a while now, I tried murrays but found it a bit annoying that it doesn't wash out very easily.. now this unorthodox water based pomade seems like a great replacement. Do you know where to get one of these in Amsterdam?
The unortho's are hard (probably no one has it) to get in a physical store in The Netherlands. You can get it on www.tameyourbeast.com where a Belgian guy imports some of them. Or www.pomadeclub.com/hair/pomade/water-based/unorthodox.html with very nice shipping prices. Another one is www.hedgelion.com but you have to contact the seller for international shipping.
BY the way. Murray's is one of the hardest to wash out. Pink and Green Reuzel wash out easily just like products from Lockhart's and Pomps not Dead (and others).
How To Style A Pompadour - The Master Course, oké bedankt voor het antwoorden. Ik ga de bovenstaande sites bezoeken. Het is inderdaad lastig om deze producten te vinden in Amsterdam, ik was de jacht al eens eerder begonnen.
Als je nog vragen hebt. Ik heb je net aangesproken op FB ;)
How To Style A Pompadour - The Master Course , Ah top. Komt goed.
Wheres my new videos?
It is being made in my head ;) Made some shots already but still searching for a direction. I have a lot of other things to do as well. But there will be another one.
You had me at "I'm not here to tell you all of these are sissy products, made for nancy boys and should belong in blumaan group." I'm developing my own pomade brand to bring to market and have been researching videos and recipes. I need to have a good product so I can take care of my family and this video is encouraging.
Yeah those words were very deliberately chosen. Good products is what we need! Good luck with making it :)
They might be salon products but at least they dong charge twice as much for little product. I never cared for water based products because i use petro; however, if i felt like giving my hair a break ill use tres flores water based
+AintiTrippin Yes they often are are pricey and as far as I'm concerned you can use your grandma's hairspray if that works for you ;) But somebody had to say something! haha
Haha awesome video!!
Thank you!
Lol I love your videos ! Keep it up .
+Isidro Chavez Thanks! I'll do my best to make another one.
salon products are shit, expensive, and often only come in 2oz or less. They often even apply with tug and pull. UWB pomades promote supporting small american buisnesses and sell for unbeatable prices at usally 4 oz. UWB pomades apply without the tugg and pull, much like how Lockhart's and PND apply. They're not salon products. They're home brewed for a goon reason. A lot of people can't stand salon products and the cosmetics industry. And the best part is that UWB pomades have natural products that you can actually understand and read. Salon products are full of chemical junk.
Aaah... getting so tired of having the same discussion over and over haha. So sure. It's for Goons that don't like to get there hands and hair dirty. Goons that prefer a more creamy substance in their hair that is washable. And it's high quality for affordable prices. If you think UWB’s resemble and feel like petro’s that’s awesome for you dude ;)
I love the references to our groups 😂
It's where all the drama unfolds :P
is that an EBMM JP in the back?
Wow you do pay attention! It is indeed a Candy Red JP6
Great vide this was actually funny lol
I'm glad you liked it :)
way to be sinister in a video lol
please review pomade from indonesia
+Bima Wahyu I never review pomades. There are some very good other people that do that.
Adam levine?
+Joule De Gamerz Edward Norton
How are you
I'm good!
I couldn't agree more. Oil based pomade still the best for me. Watching in 2019 🤟
Since then "Everything Pomade" basically changed into the Blumaan Group haha
Kan je nieuwe videos maken plz
Ik ga m'n best doen ;)
+How To Style A Pompadour - The Master Course ik kijk er naar uit
10000% I call them hipster pomades haha
Yeah man we get it you only like to use motor oil to style your hair
Thanks for watching man
Bumper music sounds like MGS4
Why is it just me that thinks he looks like Adam Levine?
Adam Levine and Christian Bale.
You should of mentioned that Classic oil based pomades do not work on curly, thick, wavy, hair . Only strong hold - water based pomades work on thick, wavy type hair . Please take a deep breath , water based pomades are not here to kill you 😂
You should have mentioned that you didn't watch or understand the video 🤣 Everyone should enjoy whatever product works for them. I certainly do. Please take a deep breath and enjoy a bit of satire. Thanks for watching!
Wheres my new videos?