My Response To Fatphobia Claims
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- Опубликовано: 14 июл 2020
- I was scrolling through reddit today and came across this post saying I have “fatphobic tendencies”. This was really hard for me to read and caused me to take a critical look back at my previous comments regarding obesity, bariatric treatments, and diet recommendations (Keto, intermittent fasting, vegan, etc.) Our culture demonizes people for their weight, from rogue marketing pushing “ideal bodies” in media to a lack of representation for large bodied people on stage and on screen. That being said, I am a doctor, and my job is to help people live longer, healthier lives, and often those results can be achieved through a variety of tactics that will reduce the weight of people who suffer from obesity. It’s a fine line between helping my patients and making sure they don’t feel judged or criticized for the way they look, and I’m working hard to get it right.
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how did i find a comment from 23 minutes ago. This video literally came out 1 year ago
Ooohhhh....
SECOND!
@@bingyyt Magic, i guess?
@@cakeisyummy5755 Yup
This video should be titled “Sane Doctor Responds to The Critical Theory Cult” 🤣😂🤣
He's not fatphobic, he's a doctor.
Doctor isn't an adjective.
@@danate3849 it can be
@@two67gh No it can't. "I'm so doctor!", it just doesn't work.
@@danate3849 Doctor is a verb and a noun. This post uses it as a noun.
English lessons 101.
@@halycon4923 I am not paying for this.
"Obese" is a medical term, not hate speech. People really need to realize this
Periodt💅🏻. Since in this generation the medical term “Obese” is being used to fat shame others and it just really needs to stop.
@@_worldwide_shoulders_3974 agreed. Idiots thinking "obese" is some people using it to shame when medically that's exactly what they are. It's like telling people "So and so have autism" when that certain person DOES have autism. Is it hate speech? Don't think so.
@@_worldwide_shoulders_3974 How can be "obese" to used to fat shame somebody?
@@pmfreekick8333 when a medical professional uses the term "obese" to describe a patient's weight that's not fat-shaming. but it can be when people who aren't doctors and don't know what they're talking about use it to bully someone. i don't know whether you've ever seen comments under posts calling people "obese," but oftentimes those people are only slightly overweight and either way, some random kid making such a comment under someone's post is extremely insensitive. bottom line, i think what she's trying to say is: a medical professional saying it during a check up is very different than kids bullying each other on social media.
@@luc5547 Im not from US and im not common with your fat shaming problem but now I get it thanks
"Obesity puts you at a higher risk for certain diseases"
That's not called Fatphobia, thats called Facts.
factsphobia
And certain diseases put you at higher risk for obesity. I feel like you have clearly never experienced fatphobia.
You can't just tell these people facts, they are factphobic!
Absolutely correct and because of your comment I'd like to Coin a the term called "factsphobia" for people that completely
ignore the facts.
@@RaeRaenicorrrn k ty
I lost over 200lbs with bariatric surgery. It saved my life. I have been told by many people that I am fatphobic, that I am lazy, and I should have accepted my body for what it was. I would have died young.i am so much happier and healthier. And I will never stop advocating for that treatment because it changed my life. I refuse to apologize for that
The people that told you not to get the surgery had their best interests at heart, not yours. Congratulations on your health win!
thank you for saying this! i guess a lot of people do not like what happens when you lose a lot of weight and how others treat them better when theyre finally skinny but id like to look at it like theyre proud of you for finally taking care of yourself
You are just guessing that it saved your life. You want that to be the case because you made such an insane decision. I am sure you have all kinds of medical problems.
@@CelineNoyce tf? Why would you talk to someone like this? I am guessing it’s better for you to believe the surgery doesn’t work for some reason. To assume you know this person’s situation more than they do is insane.
@@CelineNoyce ooooohhh youre so hostile,, its definitely the insecurity speaking within u
if it changed their life in a positive way, how come youre so negative abt it lol
“He talks about watching what you eat” um yes because he’s............. a doctor.....
Kinda feels like the people who would complain about wearing a mask :P
Max lol yes
Apparently being reminded to put down the fork offends some people.
Lmao exactly...the haters are so weird
you don't need to be a doctor to say that any person on this freakn earth should have this thoughts .. ofc you can poison yourself with realy bad nutrition .. i.e. daily fast food, excessive calories and sugar .. a galon of lemonade a day .. and so on
"Obesity puts you at a higher risk for certain diseases." That's not fatphobia. That's medicine.
@Give me Idea about Names! natural selection
@@sportdoge1 that's dark but sadly true if they don't help themselves after being given advice
Feelings over science, it's the 2020 way.
OH NO! I'm fat so you can't mention anything related to it! I'm not unhealthy because I'm fat! My knees ain't painful because my wight! How do you dare to tell me to loose weight to help my knee pain? You are Soo fatphobic!!!!
@@MrJonezy541 It's like being back in the Middle Ages.
As a man who is 370 pounds at 6'2" and a full time electrician. I move around a lot still because of my job. My eating problem is because, I don't have a lot of self control when it comes to food. But I can say that I really appreciate the videos where Dr Mike brings up obesity. They have gotten me motivated to overcome my self control issue. To this day I have lost 30 pounds in three months. Thank you Dr Mike. You have motivated me.
Keep going!! 🎉💪
good job, keep at it!
Good job man, I’m proud of you and I’m rooting for you! You’ve got this!
Thats awesome, im so proud of you. Keep trying to prioritise your health my man
That's awesome dude, keep pushing
As a formerly obese person, I appreciate Dr. Mike and wish I had someone like him in my corner when I was younger. He is not fat phobic, he is a doctor who obviously cares about his patients and is trying to share his extensive knowledge. Not all Doctors in the media are “Dr.” Oz.
I hope you a safe recovery❤
“I’ve never watched his videos”
Proceeds to defame and discredit him.
Right. The world gets dumber by the day.
Tbf that point was specifically that they know he did videos about certain diets but hasn't watched those so can't comment on them, not that they've never seen his videos full stop.
Jessica right but it’s basically an irrelevant statement and makes their argument weaker lol
Literally. Like wtf. You can't even say anything if you've never watched.
@@sarahamaris5383 Not really, they conceded that they didn't know his stance on a particular topic. Keto, IF, etc. are all diets which that subreddit - a subreddit for many people recovering from eating disorders - was against. The fact that he tried these diets is a supporting point in the post because it can be triggering for people recovering from eating disorders, many of whom would hope that a doctor wouldn't advertise them. I'm not taking a stance against Doctor Mike, but the feelings the poster had were valid considering the location of the post and the mention of those videos didn't weaken the argument at all.
He’s a doctor, why wouldn’t he condone eating healthy. Just cuz he condones doesn’t mean he’s fat shaming. He’s just trying to help guide people to being healthier and happier
Facts
maybe people need to take some advice, why do people want to ignore his advice when he's trying to helping them?
Don't pay any mind to the people with below average iq
Most overweight/obese people have this mentality that if you speak about diets, exercise, weightloss you're automatically fatphobic. This isn't something new, its an issue happening daily on the internet and Dr Mike isnt the only one that has addressed this problem. Plenty of fitness content creators who have been on a weightloss journey have spoken up about this. Unfortunately those people refuse to listen because they blame it on their family history of obesity saying how they can never lose weight, theyve always been fat, and so forth.
Any healthy advice they take it as fat shaming. Its quite sad honestly.
@@ughmuggles1815 Most overweight/obese people know that they have a health problem and want to reverse it. You're describing the keyboard warrior fringe who take scientific facts as personal attacks. Not to mention some of us have had exceptionally rude, or shitty doctors who were 100% not helpful, so there's that.
My uncle is a doctor. He always makes fun of overweight people at the gym and has called them disgusting. That is fatphobic. Dr Mike is literally caring about people's health. There is a difference.
Dr. Mike is being manipulative
@@MorganKing95 no he's not he's a whole medical professional and knows most of what he's talking about
@@bizzybezz940
Exactly! Doctors are manipulative psychopaths
@@MorganKing95why?
@@may51973
They're miserable and have realized that life is cruel and nobody wants or likes them, so they compensate by ending everybody else's lives, and making them feel as miserable. Doctors also has an innate inability to feel emotions or empathy
I don’t think these people realize that it is possible to be body positive and promote healthy lifestyles at the same time
Exactly. Body positive is supposed to mean, hey this person is heavier than others but they’re still a human being so we should treat them like everyone; not if you workout you hate fat people
I think often it more comes with the territory as his job is to pressure people about fat, cholesterol, and blood pressure. I think when your a person body positivity is overall a good thing because everyone has the doctor to tell them this stuff.
There is a small group of people in the body positivity movement who legitimately think there is nothing unhealthy with being fat. I've seen it go as far as shaming people for losing fat for their health. But body positivity isn't about saying being fat is healthy, it's about recognizing that fat people are people with value and worth. And yes, you can be, by all measures healthy and overweight... But all the evidence points towards the fact that it causes stress in all the systems in the body and eventually leads to disease.
Being body positive simply means not to hate on people. Nobody's body is absolutely perfect and there is always something you can help yourself with
It's not monolithic.
Some 'fat' people really can't lose the weight, even if they're healthy. It's a small percent, but it's worth taking into consideration.
Making fun of someone for being fat is one thing, but a doctor educating someone on the risks of being obese is NOT fat phobic
Exactly. I agree
IKR. Like, what the hell? I had obesity and trust me, fat acceptance is evil of the 21st century. You know those "Karens" who believed in NWO, satan worshipping celebs, Anti-Vax propagandas and the 'plot' to destroy the world? I would believe it if they say fat acceptance is one of those 'plots'.
Even then this is retarded. People shouldn’t be offended by things like this. If people drop these peeps in a 3rd world country they’d die from becoming too offended.
One of the few things that encouraged me to lose weight was people making fun of me. I thank God every day for people that make fun of fat people, because if they were pushing this fat activism back in the day and anti bullying, I'd probably be stuck in a house somewhere being encouraged to keep eating myself to death.
neither of them is fatphobia
These people really wrote “DOCTOR says being obese is bad for health. I can’t believe he is fatphobic”
It's Internet logic, we all want to die at age 30.
What made me burst into laughter is “ Doctor mikes tells them to “ watch what you eat” “ 😂😂💔 noo I am losing my mind smh.... how dare he advise them something so fucking right
Reddit is pure leftist garbage
Welcome to radical left ideology that is becoming rampant in our society. I haven't watched the full video yet, but if he apologizes, then he is only playing into their irrational ideology.
@@mettakilla or they could be a 14 years old who only knows that calling people fat is bad. Better educate this people than label them
I’m still obese (barely now) and I’m losing weight by following the advice of Doctors just like Dr. Mike and it is working! Adhering to the plan (consistency) that you and your doctor come up with is vital to success.
good job
Keep it up bro, you're worth it! 💪🏻
We're all gonna make it bros! Keep it up!💪
I’m in a similar place. I was nearly 300 lbs at one point and over the past 2.5 years, mainly just through eating more healthily, I’ve gotten down to right about 200. Still technically “obese” but I am in such a better place now with my overall fitness and wellbeing. Even when I was at my heaviest, I never once tried to kid myself that it was a healthy way to exist. Wanting someone (including yourself) to be healthier and have a better quality of life is not fatphobia.
King! 🤴
Bro, you have the patience of a saint. Like, beyond what is expected of any person ever. Imagine a decade and a half dedicating your life to medicine, just to have uneducated people condemn you for trying to help people. Damn, your patience is actually motivational for me, inspirational. Put all the actual medical topics aside, your personality and good nature has legitimately given me so much respect for you. I appreciate you, Dr.
He passed the Vibe Check
As an obese person, ive never felt that he was calling me out or was making me feel bad about myself.
Couldn’t agree more!
Same here, in fact he actually helped me be more aware and in tune with my body
Yep. I've been working on getting my weight down (sometimes more and sometimes less successful but it's been going in the right direction) and I really never felt like he was disrespectful or hateful in any way.
Same! I've seen many doctors with a fatphobic attitude and Dr. Mike's is not. Could he maybe improve in his inclusive language and general wording? Sure, we all have room to grow but he's the kind of doctor that actually has in depth conversations with patients.
Yeah same. I'm not overweight but I started to get there. Thanks to these videos im not though.
Fat shaming is laughing at someone for being fat
Doctors help people when they are overweight
Yeah. There's a clear difference between "Laughing at fat people" and "Suggesting a different life style".
EXACTLY! 💜💜💜
Exactly
Yes although that’s not what they said. I wholeheartedly disagree with what they said but they used the term fat phobic not fat shaming. The difference is that fat phobic is the notion that one fears fat people so to them they shouldn’t be a thing, i can see why this vision could be attributed to health professionals as doctors would normally never advise one to be overweight or stay overweight for obvious health reasons but i mean that’s the point of their profession, no one should blame them for promoting a healthy lifestyle with healthy life goals and them doing so doesn’t mean they are judgemental either so their stance on the matter is just stupid to me.
@@PatrickMcCawFitnessOfficial exactly lol
His ability to stay calm is probably what makes him an incredible doctor while standing up to some of the dumbest claims I've ever seen. I admire his ability to have compassion when dealing with tough situations.
Doctors stay calm because they don't have feelings, and they've normalized infantilization and paternalism for centuries now
@@MorganKing95wjat
@@MorganKing95Okay incel. What's next?
@@MorganKing95in your life, silly incel.
@@MorganKing95still an incel irl.
It truly bothers me that, according to these kinds of people, if you are at all concerned with your physical fitness, then you are fat phobic. I've actually heard someone say that if you are a person that *isn't fat* then you're fat phobic. This is just insane to me.
The same people that say if you're fat and are losing weight on purpose you're fatfobic.
This sounds like saying if you're white then you're racist. (Most people don't think like this, but there are some out there.)
It's because they know they're the problem, but changing that is too difficult, so they blame it on everything and everyone else.
As a queer person, that’s basically saying that if you’re not queer then you’re queerphobic (I️ was going to say the same thing about race but I’m white so I️ have no place bringing POC’s struggles in society into this (genuine)). Like that kind of cognitive dissonance or delusion or what have you is absolutely mind boggling to me
One time someone said that if someone goes to the gym for their appearance they’re fatphobic
"hes fatphobic because he recommends healthy eating" like what
So he should obviously start recommending unhealthy eating so he can stop being fatphobic XD
That’s gen z for ya surprise they didn’t cancel him
marcus The poster and commenters are millennials.
Me in my head "Ok Karen/Susan."
Right
Calling someone “morbidly obese” means “you should lose some weight for your health”, not “haha ur fat!”.
I love this because this actually shows how people psychologically respond to things they do not want to hear...
Especially when it's coming from a MEDICAL PROFESSIONAL
Like i get that people could get upset if some random person or even a family member with no medical knowledge called them that, but a doctor??? binch that's a medical term not a slur
I think people are just in denial that is unhealthy. You wouldn't get mad at a doctor for telling you that any other disease is unhealthy. Then again, it's just how our brain's are wired, you can't blame them.
True it can be both also and i get people feeling put down by it but truth is needed especially from a doctor
@@Nick07900 ive seen so many people upset about it and in denial and its just mind boggling
I'm not exactly fat, but my bmi says overweight, so I really appreciate Dr. Mike caring so much for the patients. I would love doctors to treat people like... well people. Just like dr. Mike. Thank you ❤
the problem with doctors hyperfocusing in weight is that they tend to ignore everytging else because of that. i know for me, its completely fair to bring up my weight when i talk about the issues i have because im sure it affects it. but just saying "just loose weight" completely ignores the other symptoms that i have that arent necessarily caused by weight. like i seriously doubt loosing 10 pounds will lessen my extreme migraines. i personally really struggle with exercises because my joints so badly i can barely move the next day, regardless of my intensity. weight is definitly a big factor in health, but its not always the big boogieman people think it is. sometimes its just a symptom
Exactly! And it’s an all too common experience for people. But I do know that in one of Dr.Mike’s videos he does actually call this out. He had a patient where other doctors had dismissed all their health concerns because of the patient’s weight saying it was because they were obese. But Dr. Mike was the first one to get him properly checked out and he turned out to be something incredibly serious and had nothing to do with the patient’s weight.
Also, some health conditions actually cause you to be overweight even when leading a healthy lifestyle
@@zorbl8463 exactly!
Telling someone they won’t be able to find love because they’re fat is fatphobic.
Saying you’re at a risk of type 2 diabetes when you’re overweight is not.
This is an excellent point. Fatphobia is when people say you are: lazy, disgusting, mean, stupid, ugly, worthless, don’t deserve respect or rights, should be treated unequally and should be shunned in society because you are fat. Health is important and should be sought out. I think health is less tied to the number on the scale or bmi and more about your habits. Do you eat balanced meals and exercise often? Do you avoid harmful habits like smoking and excessive drinking? If you get the recommended amount of exercise and eat with nutrition in mind, weight, shape, or size shouldnt really matter. As someone who is very anti-fatphobia, all i ask is people stop judging me, being cruel to me, prevent me from opportunities that i am well equipped for such as jobs, and constantly pressuring me to take up extreme measures that lead to eating disorders because of my size. Really, unless you are my doctor and you know my lifestyle and habits, you shouldnt be commenting on someone elses weight or what they eat. Its not your place. And i think its toxic to expect everyone to sustainably be able to be thin. Thinness does not equal health, and sometimes people cannot sustain a weight that someone else can. Yes, if we all starved, we could be thin, but that isnt sustainable. And i ask people to understand weight loss is a lot harder than it looks. It takes both mental and physical effort. It can consume your mind until its all you think about. I want everyone to be healthy, find food that is nutritious and satisfying. Find movement that makes them feel happy and do it often as possible. But that does not mean its ever ok to bully people because of how they look.
@@charlieisacatwithseizures i'll pretend i read that
Lisa Torro exactlu
@@charlieisacatwithseizures True, try the book "Essential fat", it is quite enlightening
exactly it’s as simple as that
There's a difference between:
-you are less worthy because you're overweight
-being extremely overweight isn't healthy
And people seem to forget that
That step to self worth comes from them, not the doctor. They've seen the pattern so often they get easily triggered. Mike's exactly right that they come from a place of pain.
💯
Small, Emily proof?
@Small, Emily You had me at the first half. You do need some proof
@Small, Emily well you better not assume, bc i'd say that with no bad intentions
Telling obese people that their character is bad is fatphobia. Telling obese people their health is getting bad due to obesity, is not fatphobia.
He was unbelievably patient and courteous while reading utterly asinine and ridiculous comments criticizing his work and his advice.
Imagine trying to cancel someone for telling you that being unhealthy is bad
*Twilight Zone music starts up*
“Me unhealthy but me no want to own up to it and acknowledge it so i blame others”-them
That whole comment sounded completely stupid to me honestly...these type of doctors are rare and there's someone out there whose willing to bring a non-existent quality to light and make a scene out of it 😐
Not just any someone but a DOCTOR😭😭
@@madara.n You are talking about the fatphobic comments right?
Doctor: being obese/morbidly obese is proven to be very unhealthy.
Person on reddit: he's fatphobic!!
😂
More evidence that reddit is for morons
Prodawg I often go on reddit so this is my response to your comment: yes, definitely.
while the culture of looking down on others while having opinion is prominent jere pn youtube doctor mike here just chillin
Literallt
No matter who you are you’ll always be criticized when you become popular enough
yep.
Imagine calling a DOCTOR FATPHOBIC cause he promotes HEALTHY lifestyle.
Ikr
Exactly my thought!
Im just picturing these reddit losers fuming behind a computer
I hear you, but just to play devils advocate, a lot of fat people hear this again and again from people who don’t know anything about their lifestyle. I just think there’s a possibility that this person just took it personally because maybe they’ve heard it before from people who aren’t actually knowledgeable and since he’s not their doctor, they felt like he made blanket statements (which may or may not be true, I haven’t seen many of his lifestyle type videos). Like I said, just playing devils advocate
@@rosealbert7480 Well, lemme tell you he's only suggested healthy diets/alimentation, nothing related with "skinny" or "fit" I'm sorry, if I sound rude, but even if it were like u say, it doesn't give those people the right to be so butthurt.
Doctor: *does his job*
Redittor: and i took that personally
👍
Also,
"I didn't watch his videos, so I don't know much."
These people dishearten me.
Yeeeeeuuuuuup
@John Tremblay the annoying thing these days is that the person making that comment isn't even certain to be overweight.
PC culture and SJWs have this tendency to white knight "minority" groups because it makes them feel better about themselves, not because it's a subject that affects them and they feel they need to speak out, no, it's because they want attention and that's the way they found they can get it.
Case in point, Doctor Mike felt he had to make a video about these allegations giving that shmuck the attention they were looking for.
Lol
I’m so glad there are still some genuinely good doctors out there😊
Pretty late to the party, but I have only recently begun to turn my life around.
I think you're doing an amazing job and I especially appreciate your reactions to that show with Marla, I think, where you show a lot of empathy and understanding for the mental health aspect.
I had my doctor call an ambulance for a possible pulmonary embolism and essentially just saying "quit the birth control pills and lose weight". He wasn't wrong but the delivery sucked.
I developed a drinking problem that I only quit after being prescribed anti-depressants. Looping back, I understand that I than began to eat too much junk instead of alcohol on top of not eating well to begin with.
I now have a not as stressful job with good cafeteria food in appropriate portions for very little money and a gym membership that my company partially pays for. I will have lost my first 10 kg by the end of the month.
Bruh, he’s a doctor. It’s his job to teach people to be healthy
Bruh that fake check lmao
But yeah i agree
The comment checks out to the actual good comment section section
They don’t want people to die - They are deathphobic!
But seriously, if you don’t trust doctors ask them for background. Ask them why they think something is a problem and discuss it.
People who want to be always reassured will never develop and it applies to every “internet truth”.
arham_ hahah yeah that fake check
That's not true. For example they're not trained in nutrition which is massive for our health
A medically licensed doctor is advocating for a healthy body weight and people are complaining he's fatphobic. I've officially seen it all
Because they think "fat at any size" and that you can eat anything while still being healthy
The thing I'm fond of about Dr. Mike's advocacy isn't the message itself but how empathetic he is delivering the message. He knows from the patients he's had the struggles of diets and whatnot which made him very sympathetic towards people who struggle with the mental part of weight loss for obese people (which is the biggst hurdle really; since dieting is the only real thing you'll need for weight loss unless say you got a couple pounds of sagging skin where physical activity will be welcome)
He even sympathizes well enough for those who pretty much get harsh words from others' doctors
@@ArnoldFrost Yeah. He really feels for the people who just can’t control themselves at all. Thank God were empathetic toward that weak and pathetic mindset and approach it with more weakness.
Western culture's race to the bottom, and removal of all objective standards.
Honestly yes
As someone slightly overweight (84kg at 180cm height) I whole heartadly agree with Doctor Mike. We have to realise how great of a man Dr. Mike really is. Love from Hungary
As someone struggling with weight the way you talked in this video made things much easier to understand. I wish more doctors took an approach like you do
He is a doctor. he just wants the best life for his patients.
ikr like wtf. Being obese is clearly unhealthy and as a doctor, he needs to treat and advise people to be more healthy. Hes not fatphobic, he just wants the best for others. Yet egotistical people on the internet thinks they are smarter than a doctor
He said this in the video so...
@@kindnessisalie5411 yup being fat is unhealthy, when I was fat fat, i could'nt even get up, my knee hurts, my chest feels tight sometimes, even though i am still fat today, but its better than before and I can see the changes straight away.
@@SkyBooFast nice bro/sis! keep it up
Day phobia is not real, it's just people that don't want to lose weight. Any people that believe in fat phobia, can you please explain to me why?
Imagine having to explain that being obese is unhealthy
This is the point we have come too.
It is unhealthy though-
Christina Winther Lolk what does the left have to do with this?
Christina Winther Lolk wtf are u talking about..
@@ChristinaWintherLolk why yes, everything has to boil down to politics...
Dr. Mike, this may be an old video, but it's my first time seeing it. I used to weigh over 400 lbs. Im now down to just over 200 lbs. I have personally dealt with fat phobic people, and I've also had to come to terms with the dangers of being so big. You're an amazing educator, and I have never once seen anything that comes close to fat phobia or hate. Keep rocking, brother.
Dude I love my doctors and I’m happy you exist, and that’s because I love learning more about diseases and stuff about our bodies
Why do some people act like having a high amount of fat isn't a detriment to your health? He just wants people to be healthy.
Because of political correctness. I am fat, I don't like it, but I do not mind if someone points it out. If there is someone who says that fat is healthy....get your facts in order. I don't sleep well, I can not move well, i get tired very quickly and I am "just" 10-12 kg overweight. In some more years doctors won't be allowed to tell you that you have cancer, because it will hurt your feelings.
Consultanta Danemarca not just being pc but because of the fat-shaming that can come with it, even from doctors
It's because some people only achieve body positivity through denial. That is the #1 reason right there. A lot of fat people are completely aware of the very real health risks that come with being over weight and for some of them that makes it really hard not go through life hating that extra weight. Some fat people want so badly to feel good about their bodies that they strive for body positivity in the most mentally (and physically) unhealthy way possible, which is denial. This denial is a process that usually starts by looking for other fat people who have already achieved some level of body positivity. They observe these people and weed out the ones that take the "body positive while working to be healthier" approach because having to address the health aspect gets in the way of the goal. They then start focusing on fellow fat people who adamantly insist that they are perfectly healthy and who tend to cite bogus medical articles as their justification. Body positivity without denial DOES exist but only when people have psychologically healthy reasons behind it. People who just want to be told that they aren't actually unhealthy so that they can feel good about what they see in the mirror are the people who throw around "fatphobic" and insist that anybody who claims to care about their health is a liar who just hates fat people. Their friends and family can have been expressing concern for their health for years but as soon as they achieve unhealthy "body positivity" through denial they suddenly accuse those friends and family of just hating fat people. It's a really big problem that's becoming more and more common as more and more false information is spread. It's very unfortunate that this problem has also started to fuel the misconception that all fat people are in denial and just don't care about their health when that's not true at all.
My friend has already had a heart attack, but I'm scared to tell him to eat better because he'll think I'm judging him. I live in obese state so I'm actually seen as pretentious for caring about my own health in the first place.
@@consultantadanemarca2132 that has nothing to do with political correctness. they just are feeling shitty about their size in society and the body positive movement is an excuse to give up and not try anymore and since it has gotten so much popularity they stay reinforced with their believes. no political supports obesity. this isn't political. just idiots who don't want to admit they need help or feel like it won't change how other people see them.
People are ACTUALLY offended of a goddamn doctor doing his job 💀
he's giving us advice FOR FREE and these people still have the audacity to say that he's fatphobic-
That’s how it be with these people
Yeah let them die quickly.
well... when we have the president attacking Dr Fauci.
I am honestly perplexed!
We are in the me too movement. Dr. Mike is the best. 👏🏽
I feel like it is all about the communication. I have met a doctor who was slightly fat something about me. Im not a morbidly obese person, but... Lets just say my BMI is quite high. And my obgyn refused to give me any form of contraception unless I lose weigh. She said that straight to my face. Literally the first thing she said to me, even before any form of check-up.
And while I know all medications are counted per 1kg of body weigh and too much can hurt, or just simply be ineffective... Well she could use at least different language. Cuz I knew that and I was hoping that as a medical proffesional she could see more about me and help me find a solution.
It was my first visit there years ago and I am very much afraid to go anywhere else again just to hear the same thing. I am struggling with that weighloss process and those comments are not helping. I wouldn't call her fatphobic tho. More like biased, uncaring and unkind.
So fatphobic. You spelled that wrong. There's plenty of healthy fat people. The medical industry isn't God. Theres alot modern medicine gets wrong not just about body size.
"he tells you to watch what you eat" yeah like every other doctor would tell you???
69th like 😏
lol for real, I wonder what that person's doctor is telling them O.o
"how DARE he tell me to watch what I eat in a RUclips video that I'm watching" it is insane the number of people who ascribe to this type of thinking
Well, they did say that every doctor is fatphobic
"How dare you advise healthy eating habits! Unbelievable!"
if i went to my local doctor because i was morbidly obese and they said “no don’t worry about it you’re beautiful” i would be very concerned
Probably because it's beneficial as a business to have people be obese and then come with much more problems.
Although it's scummy
Are you holding a knife?
obese people can still look beautiful, so i really hope you're not implying that they're ugly. however, i agree that a doctor shouldn't dismiss problems that are very obviously there, especially if a patient comes in for help with said problem
edit: PLEASE stop replying to this, it's a year old and i won't respond anymore, go do something better than talk to a brick wall
@@Jaminux if you are obese, go do some sports and eat healthy stuff. the results will come with time. also, if you think that being obese is a normal thing then you are an absolute, uneducated, misleading, disgrace to humanity.
Sabih Shahid most doctors don’t care about the money, they just want to help people.
A doctor gives good health advice, and get labelled fat phobic. Wtf is happening in our world
The problem is that it's incorrect advice being given with someone in a doctor's coat on.
@@joelwhite7098what advice is incorrect? Doctors talk to their patient and always try to find the best way they can to help their patients live a long healthy life
@@carissa8949
They infantilize their patients, and what you're describing is pure paternalism
I broke all my bones and my doctor told me to rest?!?!?!?!? My doctor is so brokenbonephobic!
Guys my psychiatrist prescribed me with antidepressants, what a sadphobe!
right? my dentist told me to brush my teeth, what a cavityphobe 🙄
@@blueroses4373 I know! Like when my eye doctor gave me prescription glasses, what a sightphobe!
Guys, My doctor told me i need to quit Smoking, what a lungcancerphobe.
My doctor gave me anxiety meds what a tensephobe!
Guys my doctor told me to stop starving myself, what an eatingdisorderphobe”
People are literally upset at him for encouraging people to be healthy...🤦🏾♂️
that's America for ya
So true people want to not be told there wrong most of the time. Edit: I thought I saw a mistake it wasn’t
Yes sir
R/fatlogic
No wonder so much of America's population is obese
"I have never watched him" yet goes on to judge him.. typical
I am overweight and recently motivated to do something about it. It can be a difficult subject if you aren't in a place to hear or talk about the issue. That doesn't make the person discussing it fatphobic. I appreciate Dr. Mike and his open and honest conversation on all topics. I wish more doctors practiced medicine like him.
“He’s fat phobic because he said ‘watch what you eat’”
THEN WHAT DO YOU WANT HIM TO SAY, “eat whatever you want and don’t care about your cholesterol, sugar levels and others”???
yes, because that hurts the guilty brain that wants to live in blissful ignorance.
Right
"eat whatever you want and die whenever you want"
Idk why i laughed so hard at this 😂😂
If they want to die a slow, painful death and refuse all doctoral help
just let them
A doctor: "Watch what you eat"
People who are obviously not doctors: "it goes to show that even doctors can learn a lot in their own fields"
Karens with short blue hair in general.
@@DARTH-R3VAN yeah
Anyone that makes fun, good-hearted videos that promote healthy living (buff-dude or woman) are people we need more of in this world and the negativity is a never ending rip current. Fighting it my friend will cause you to drown. Just like with a rip tide you need to pick a side to swim to and then swim in when it's gone, and only respond to the audience that knows you better than this. Sure, clear your name but the haters will never go away, enjoy your vids
Doctors can learn a lot in their own fields. So can people in a lot of other fields. Doctor Mike agreed with this statement in the video. Initial medical training isn’t all encompassing, professionals should spend their careers continuously learning, as they are confronted with new challenges and because the field evolves constantly. I quite like Doctor Mike, and still feel he could still continue to learn about working with fat people and considering our bodies from a health at every size perspective. Not because his way is inherently or always wrong, or because I think he’s fatphobic, but because there are other approaches and considerations about obesity. There are a growing number of people who are living fat and healthy. He would do well to talk with an actual fat person/fat health advocate about this.
@@LaraVlach fat at all sizes is complete BS
Dr Mike talks sense and the truth, from a medical and logical perspective. Some people don’t like hearing the truth! BMI is a dangerous measurement tool but is sadly quoted all to often.
I love you Dr Mike. Keep doing what you're doing. People get so defensive and don't look at whole picture. I wish you were my doctor. Rock on. Keep up the good work
"watching what you eat" is not fatphobic. THAT IS LIFE ADVICE.
Édit: mom I’m famous.
@z z they think it's just about appearance and letting themselves indulge in the bad eating habits is loving themselves bc it makes them feel good. I think the "body positivity" thing is actually just abt appearance bc the hourglass skinny body is what women are pressured to achieve. Like that's the reason for the mouvement. It's bc of the pressure society puts onto people to achieve the desired body or "body goals" and it's talking abt appearance. Loving yourself genuinely imo is taking good care of yourself, eating what's best for you, getting exercise and sleep and just listening to your body's needs in general. Not just doing what makes you feel good just to then have your excuse being body positivity
“When skating, use helmet” is so concussion-phobic it makes me want to throw out 🤢
I'm kinda chunky. And I try to do it but if I see a pringels can it is gone in 10 minutes. I really need to stop buying them
@@rango962 yes! Just don't buy unnecessary snacks! If you don't have it in your house then you wont eat it!
@@Tiffany-de9wo I know that. I jsut can't control myself. I swapped all my drinks with water but I just can't resist does nasty little cans of hot and spicy pringels. They are like the one ring. I dotn want it, I don't need it but I don't want to stop. However, I'm starting to do some sports, push ups and jogging to lsoe a bit of weight. Becuase not buying pringels is like not buying alcohol for and heavy alcoholic
There's a difference between doctors talking about how being overweight can harm your health in a medical way, than someone who is prejudiced against big people.
Yes
people need to understand this.
Yup! And hey Armyy✨💜👋🏻
Exactly!!! Them ppl either paranoiac or just strongly uncultured and ignorant about the subject. Hes a doctor ffs
Not to the 'health at every size' crowd
Who refuse to believe that weight can in fact have a direct impact on their health
I lost 40 lbs on keto, thank you mike for your video covering it. I do understand the criticism on doing surgery, it's invasive and often will cause complications compared to diet and exercise method but I'm sure you are taking that in mind while reading the people it has helped, and benefits to it.
Honestly, I do not have your patience and angelic disposition to deal with this kind of "commentary" in a polite manner. It's really admirable
I'm an overweight girl because I am twelve years old but I weigh 188 pounds, right now I'm trying to eat less but it turns out that for the most part I'm overweight because i have mental health issues, and I'm sad about it because it is like REALLY HARD TO LOSE WEIGHT!!! So really please pray for me (Ruby) and thank you Doctor Mike for all your videos 😁
Dr. Mike: I just want people to be happy and healthy
People on reddit: *How dare you???*
@@DUSKvsDAWN The only subbredit I actually like on Reddit is r/HistoryMemes
i read that in Greta Thunberg's voice. LOL
Karen Logic
Remember how Reddit was home to civilized people?
Boy how the turntables
@@Oxideacid there's actually a decent number of places in reddit where people are pretty chill though
Imagine wanting what is better for people and then getting hate for that.
Paternalism and infantilization are not desirable practices
@@MorganKing95okay, incel.
@@MorganKing95explain?
Wow. This was incredibly based and I seriously believe that you're doing some insanely remarkable work here, Doc. My dad was obese for a long time. What has been helping him remarkably is a keto diet and working out, and it's helped him sleep better. He doesn't suffer from insomnia and sleep apnea in the way he used to anymore. He's the healthiest and happiest I've ever seen him. My stepmom is incredible with natural and holistic health matters and she is the healthiest person I know. She has changed my dad's life for the better and I cannot thank her enough. This all goes to say that keto isn't for everyone! And that's okay. Just in my dads experience, he's gained back so many years of his life. Overall, I'm sharing this story because it proves that people are different and different things work for different people. And as for Mike, I appreciate that you are as unbiased as you are because that is so incredibly hard to do these days without potentially receiving backlash.
Its almost like he is a doctor and knows that being overweight is bad for health, crazy
people be like: i have not fucking studies but surely i now more about health than a doctor
Gabriel Díez Díez “he posted about this but even tho i never watched it im still gonna judge him for it”
ikr crazy dude
Yeah bro, it almost like, he has like, a degree or something dude, like, don't you know that, like, Facebook is better than, like, doctors and scientists dude? Like, bro is so dumb to like, study to help people and like, better their lifes dude.
Nick Byrwa yeah, why would anyone do that? (not saying you did btw)
Imagine studying for 8+ years then have to respond to people like this🤦♂️
Way longer than that, but I agree haha
Agree. Most adults can’t have deep meaningful conversations with toddlers and most people encounter in the world have not matured in terms of emotions or intellect past that of a 16 yr old.
I know!!! My 3 year old nephew is smarter than the people saying these ridiculous things. He legit really is. His comprehension level would have him wanna smack these ppl 🤣🤣🤣🤣
He was so polite in his response, I would’ve lost my patience in the first line. “He also overall talks about obesity and watching what you eat” like mf, do you know a doctor that doesn’t????
We actually study even longer that and trust me, it takes ALOT of patience to not pop veins when "woke tumblry" shows up.
I’ve been overweight my whole life and I’ve never met or seen a dr with this much compassion toward commenting on overweight/obese people. He’s working to educate so we are comfortable to come to physicians for help. Thank you Dr. Mike❤ working to break all medical stigmas
I really respect you patience because you could easily have lost your temper since there were so many things you could say to turn down their claims, if I were in your feet, I would have lost my temper for sure!
Imagine being angry at a doctor for saying "hey kids, hot take here, being overweight is not healthy"
Belg- Fat shamer! Fatphobic! I have the freedom to choose to be fat and unhealthy! So what if he’s right! I’m outraged!
For real though. Even the fatphobic made up term is cringeworthy. I’m fat and it’s ridiculous to say that. I thought being phobic means you have a fear of it. Like “I’m skinny and I have fatphobia, I’m scared to become fat.” Not “I hate far people therefore I’m fatphobic. Am I wrong there? Anyways, still an idiotic term made up there.
@Don’t be Triggered They’re trying to make it as bad as the transphobia problem. The people pushing it are either 1) in denial about their health 2) worried about the poor people who can’t speak for themselves or 3) been bullied their whole life for being healthily chubby and want an apology. Probably mostly the last category that don’t realize My 600 lb Life is actually a reality and people should be swayed away from it.
Doctor: you can't do that, you'll die
People: soo, looks like you're pretty death-phobic!
@@badoai8902 Bot?
True!!!!!!
Necrophobic 😂
Death-phobic 😂😂🙌
Ha ha!
Keep doing what you’re doing doctor Mike! You brilliant at it👍🏻
i think the way doctor mike goes about reading these posts is very credible - he maintains his composure well and isn't reactive and works out where various perspectives stem from instead of reacting or being swayed by anything
I can’t believe my doctor gave me HEALTH advice
The audacity!
XDD
lmao
except in that reddit post.. he's not anyone's doctor in there XD He's giving general info most of the time...
A lot of doctors blame everything on weight, even when there’s symptoms of other things. That’s the real issue
These people will watch the video and be like
*"Yep confirmed fatphobe"*
"He's talked about obesity."
I'm sorry, I didn't know saying the word obese was suddenly banned.
Redditor took that personally
Apparently it is... and even Registered Dietitians (the ones who are anti diet, and healthy at all sizes, etc) don't say it because they might offend someone. So ridicoulous.
You need to update your info.
yeah apparently in today's society you can't say a single thing just in case you offend someone, I corrected someone on a youtube comment and I got someone trying to bully me because they didn't like me telling someone that they was in correct even though I gave an example of why this person was incorrect, the original person never responded back to me but this bully did
@@tvaholicsquidney This is stupid. People these days are too sensitive.
The one that picked my interest more is the comment about doctors mentioning your weight on a medical checkout. I mean what do you expect! it's not like a doctor approached you on the street to say you're fat, you came to the doctor to ask what is wrong with you AND YOU PAID FOR IT!. It's like going to a restaurant, paying for the meal and then the restaurant ghosts you and never give you your meal, it would be stealing if the doctor didn't say what your health issues are.
"Only one doctor hasn't mentioned losing weight to me"...
At this point they're just plain ignorant. If EVERY doctor is telling you this, then CLEARLY it's a sign.
This guy isn't even defending himself, he sees the "attack" as a chance to educate. Respect.
Haha i ruined the no comments now theres one mwahahaha
Exactly 👌🏼
Bc the “attack” was a bunch of bs
Chelsea Kirk lmao yup
Doctor literally means “teacher,” so he’s doing what doctors always should, teach. Doing a great job at it too.
He’s a doctor telling us to be healthy is literally his job and he cares for us.
Exactly
He is a loving God, but not forgiving
You'd think that would be obvious.
literally
@@yakuzzi35 Excuse you?
hey man you helped me loose weight and get in shape tbh more then a lot of stuff i was not really fat just really out of shape and chubby and you helped me change so thanks
Bro like doctor Mike is is just trying to helps us stay healthy that is his job! Keep up the good content.
Paternalism is abuse, and so is infantilization
I swear if he didn’t warn people about obesity the same people would claim that he’s not doing his job properly
Periodt 😂
It's considered medically negligent not to inform people of a condition that is affecting their health
If he didn't tell people to try to be healthy I wouldn't listen to his advice actually
Exactly. There's no way to win with people.
No they wouldn't. The people complaining are "fat acceptance" people. They're fat and don't want to be told it's unhealthy.
people don’t realize that when he says he wants to help people be “happy and healthy” he isn’t saying he wants to make them have a “bikini body.” he wants to help them lost weight so they can be at a healthy weight.
not once does he say “skinny is healthy” because it’s not. a healthy weight is a healthy weight. you don’t need to be skinny to be healthy. you need to be at a healthy weight to be healthy.
Wow you're completely right. At this point, I think it deals with the person mindset and their correlation to the standards on society's perspective of "beauty" which they may believe is being skinny. Therefore, a simple inoffensive comment may come across as attacking when it's actually harmless and now dependent on how a person dissects it.
This is true right here
exactly people dont understand than when he is talking about weight loss he isnt doing it from estetical point of view but health point of view
PREACH MY COMMENTER!!!
People think that's only 0-1 type of situation. Fit or fat. And it really isn't.
Well stated. Keep up the good work. Don’t forget about the increased risk of infections following surgeries.
This is only the 2nd show of yours and i have to say everything i have heard so far I appreciate and respect. I look forward to watching more videos from you in the future
2020: you get called fat phobic for trying to help people live a healthier life
And the woman who promotes fat acceptance dies at 34 from a heart attack.
@@karenmarsh1067 oh geez😬
Ikr like being obese is something you should improve on. You should head towards not being obese, not be proud of it because it’s gonna cause you an earlier death. Being fat phobic is to hate someone SOLELY because they are obese. Helping someone not get a serious heart attack or something isn’t being fatphobic in any way shape or form. Idk what these Karen’s going through their mid life crisis are thinking
@@thelambsaucee I totally agree. I had 3 relatives who were obese, 1 was morbidly obese, and none lived past 62. My grandmother died of a heart attack at 45, my uncle at 62, my cousin at 50. All heart attacks. I guess they have to decide what is the most important thing to them. Is it more important to love your fat, and flaunt it and become a spokesperson for being as large as you want to be, or is it more important to maximize the time you will have to spend with your loved ones.
@@thelambsaucee The lamb sauce???? I'm telling Gordon Ramsay right now
I'd rather be slapped with the truth than being kissed with a sugar-coated lie.
Clearly alot of sugar
Exactly!!!
@@some_icedtea5205 😳
@@some_icedtea5205 this man woke up and chose violence
I wanna post this on a wall or something.
"I'd rather be slapped with the truth than being kissed with a sugar-coated lie."
- Ben Lee
I don't see Dr. Mike being fatphobic. I will say I have been to doctors that completely disregard the reason I came to the doctor's office only to hammer on about weight. Saw one about a ringworm infection and he just went on about weight this and that, when I had no prior relationship with him and I had not had any major changes since last time I was at a doctor, so it felt unwarranted. For years I avoided the doctor because I knew the conversation would turn into what I perceived as shame and not care. My current doctor is great! She talked to me about risks, tested me for common issues, pointed me to some programs, had me talk to a sleep Dr. and a nutritionist and voila I'm down ~100 lbs and have kept it off for about a year now. This conversation needs to happen, but trust should first be established. I'm still on a weight loss journey, but weight is only a passing mention in doctor consultations...
In the end, what matters more: sparing people's insecurities or saving their lives?
This whole video is basically “I’m not mad... just disappointed” deservingly
@@hetvi865 It is refreshingly consistent, as a healthy debate should be, backed by facts and knowledge instead of emotions.
Dr. Mike: **says eating healthy is good for you and you should be healthy**
Internet people: *wait- that’s illegal*
These body positivity and fat acceptance people it seems like they have zero brain cells
Smh, how could that man give me a healthy diet tip so that I may be able to live a longer and healthy live? _The nerve, I tell you. The nerve!_
That’s eat shaming
Actually most people who are anti-fatphobia don't mind healthy eating or being told they should be healthy, it is when weight gets put into the picture that it gets muddy
It's because the people crying "fatphobia" are the ones that only want to hear: "It's okay to eat whatever you want and get as big as you want." It's not about facts, it's about feelings - like most of the garbage going on in the world today. Personally I'm overweight but I've been working on it. My doctor advised me to lose weight and my blood pressure sure showed it was getting worse and -SHOCKER- has gotten way better now that I'm down to a more reasonable weight. I didn't lash out because he pointed out I had been lazy as hell and not working out at all. But people don't care about anything other than feelings these days. "Tell me I'm PERFECT no matter what or you are against me!" I believe people can be whatever they want to be, eat as much as they want, etc. But don't get all offended if what you are doing is hurting your body and someone wants what is best for you.
Dr. Mike, you've been one of the best resources for this kind of information and at no point have I ever gotten anything from your videos other than you really care about your patients and us as well.
I agree with everything youre saying but also you gotta think about if your comments are comkng across this way to so many people thats worth thinking about.
You make some very valid points Dr. Mike I gotta give it to you
I feel like there is a point in this that wasn‘t quite clear enough:
He doesn‘t want you to lose weight because you‘re fat. He wants you to lose weight because the risks for certain health problems are so much higher if you‘re obese. Yes, you can be obese and live a healthy lifestyle, you can exercise, eat well, take good care of your body. But being at a healthy weight (not „skinny“, healthy.) still lowers certain health risks.
Exactly thank you ♥️♥️
nobody cares if you're healthy though, just SKINNY. Thats why they take one look at you and judge you. THey don't ask what you eat and determine if its healthy. They just want you SMALLER.
@@BrianaLynn7 but that's not Dr. Mike. We are talking about him here but you are right for other people.
Yes. I wish Dr Mike emphasised this more
Yes! And also you can be fat (according to your own standards, like not as skinny as you wish to be or whatever fat means for each indivudual), and doctors actually consider you to fall within a healthy weight. They would never tell you to lose weight in these kinds of situations.
Since when is “watching what you eat” fatphobic? You can be skinny and still be recommended to watch what you eat. It’s not always about your physique but about your overall health
Solid point right here. Every time I get a check up or a doctor asks about my diet and what I eat/drink, I am always told I need to eat better and drink better, and that's me being "too skinny". Also it's so odd that this is what people think is fat phobic and his smoking example was good but also dentists always say the whole less sugar and acid stuff but nobody is out here with half of their teeth missing due to cavities complaining about dentists telling them they should work on improving their diet so the few teeth they have left don't rot away.
Exactly. Just because I am skinny does not mean I am healthy.
💯
Natasha Roesner !!
Exactly.....a person can still have many metabolic problems if there diet isn’t well regulated ...they might look skinny on the outside but they would be suffering with so many problems as they get older, what’s worse is that nobody would see that coming in such a person, like if a person is visibly fat one will observe that they need to careful , but when a person is skinny it’s even harder to discern whether he or she is actually healthy....the motive should be to stay healthy...I support you Dr.mike
Thanks for making this video! I'm overweight and i think you are doing what a GREAT dr would do!!! People overweight are just like all the other people just be sweet to people who are different and LOVE THEM THE WAY GOD WOULD!!! Love GOD love PEOPLE!!! THANK YOU!!!!
The fact those comments are saying "don't listen to Dr. Mike's well-thought out, healthy, caring, motivating, and effective recommendations for obese loss bc they offend me" is wild.