I used the t5 for a bit and loved it, but I really wanted the bigger buffer, better evf, battery grip and the xt4 style screen. I ended up sending the xt5 back and ordered the xh2. What a brilliant camera. Nice review.
Interesting video. I’ve a couple of Leica M and a GFX100S and a XT4. Fujifilm cameras, to me, deliver that passion for photography vibe - It’s a manufacturer that understands that the experience while photographing is as important as the results (almost like Leica).
Fully agree, Pedro. I fully enjoyed shooting these cameras with the five lenses I showed in the video. And since I also shoot a lot with my GFX100s, the menu and handling felt familiar from the very beginning.
Thank you so much for this honest review. I like the 'vibe' of the T5 better, and I shoot almost only stills. And BTW I also appreciate your input on those lenses.
NIce review! It's great to see you starting to review X system cameras and lenses. There's one thing that I'm surprised you didn't mention and that is the fact the X-T5, like your GFX 100, has a three-way flip screen. In your video, you just showed the screen flipping horizontally, not vertically. Although that might seem like a small detail to some people, it is actually a really big deal to others (such as myself) who are primarily stills shooters and do a lot of low-angle shots in portrait mode. Anyway, your review and comparison are very much appreciated. Thanks for taking the extensive time to create it.
Glad the video was helpful! And I think you made the right choice, the X-H2 is just a but superior although many people quickly fall in love with the nice retro look of the X-T5 :)
I use a Sony A7R IV for wild life and where I need to crop heavily. Daily carry round is an X-E4. I’ve just got the X-T5 for landscape / hiking etc etc when weight and weatherproofing are important. The 5 and two WR lenses are incredibly portable and allow me to carry all the other stuff I need for a day on the hill or in mountains.
As others have commented here , this is a great comparison and one of the best on RUclips between these two cameras. I respect everyones view and although I love the look and feel of the Fujifilm dials they aren't for me and I prefer the control and technology interface of the H2 esp for the 18mm f1.4 which is my main lens. Both of these cameras are superb. For me...more customisation of controls which gives me faster shooting + better grip with larger lenses+ better evf + cfexpress = H2.
Thanks for such a thorough review! Great to hear you making such positive comments about this system, given some of the other amazing cameras you have access to. I have the X-H2s - the speed is great for fashion week catwalk photography, but it also serves me well for other pro work. I have the GFX for more high-res needs. I did have a Q2 for a couple of years. It was a great camera but as it held its value so well it was too tempting to sell to fund some new Fuji lenses! Also, I’m so used to the look of some of the Fuji film simulations, I could never get the Leica to match up if I used it on the same shoot. Anyway, very interesting to hear your perspective on this system 😊
Many thanks for the positive feedback. I truly enjoyed this camera system. As I just commented to "GHAS", a combination of the X-H2S (speed) and the GFX100s (resolution, medium format) is a great idea because you have for all applications the best of both worlds and the batteries are the same so you can easily swap batteries between these camera systems. And the menu and handling is very similar.
Thought too its a good idea, looking into something more affordable. And I really enjoyed the experience :) when shooting these 5 lenses on these Fuji cameras.
Excellent review. I prefer and opted for the XT5. The only downside, which I can work around, is the buffer size for continuous shooting in RAW (I shoot sports about 20% of my images). As I hike a lot, including in the Swiss Alps, I wanted the smaller/lighter body. Love the Swiss lake night shot!
Excellent XT5 X XH 2 , by far the best ci=omoaratioin . I personally decidedd to Buy 2 XT 5 because I only take photos . All the best and keep posting videos . Many thanks
Thank you for a detailed & thorough review. Fuji cameras offer a tremendous value for their price point, IMHO. I believe the XT-5 & the XH-2 & XH-2s should meet the needs of many photographers. My only disappointment in the XT-5 camera is that it is the first camera in the XT line up that does NOT offer an optional battery grip.🙁
Thanks for your comment, appreciated. I saw a handgrip for the X-T5 but indeed no battery grip so far, maybe coming later ... let's see. Both cameras are incredibly good and, as you spot-on said, will meet the needs of most pro photographers.
Thanks for a very nice and clear review. I'm shooting 4 minutes long exposures to a large extent. Will the X-T5 have a tendency to overheat and produce hot pixels or is the H-H2 the clear choice in this case? I don't shoot video and will not use burst mode either. Your thoughts, pls.
The XT5 can be setup and prepared for shooting while turned on, on account of dials. It also inherits the aging EVF from the XH1. The EVF in the XH2 is breathtaking.
Using the H2, you can program - nearly, eg. no evf preview - everything from AF to white balance to your likings and reproduce it when needed. So the T5 is quite lame and it's user interface provokes errors.
An excellent review of both cameras! You're probably already aware, but just in case, at 13:58 you can also do a long-press of the button on both cameras to get to the same place. Saves a lot of menu navigation!
While I realize you were comparing the 40mp camera bodies, I see from comments that many owners own two camera bodies. Nevertheless, what are your thoughts for the photo enthusiast who wants to own just one camera body for stills & video and prefers the XH design…XH2 vs XH2s??
Fujifilm’s dedication to beauty in design and in color replication was evident in the original X100 and has remained to up to and including the two cameras as well as the lenses you discussed here. If one reviews the videos and articles concerning the impetus for the X100 and subsequent series, one can get a sense of the depth dedication to traditional design elements coupled with evolving technology. I’ve owned several X, XT, X-Pro, and GFX cameras and have enjoyed all of them based on their particular designs and their disparate missions. The X100V, X-Pro 3, and XT-5 beautifully represent traditional design and are a pleasure to behold and to use. The XH2/XH2S comprise the new flagship models, although it will be interesting to see how the eventual X-Pro 4 is marketed. This was a wonderful video review, and I’m glad you showed such excellent example images from a variety of lenses. The 23mm f/ 1.4 is my workhorse in the XF series, but I love the handling and image quality of the 50mm f/ 1.0. The XF 8-16mm is also wonderful, with a unique look, in my opinion.
Thanks for sharing, Ben. Looks like you did shoot a lot of Fujis in the past, great to hear. The lens portfolio for these cameras is excellent and what impresses me as a side comment is the build quality. To make an example, on my new Hasselblad X2D all XCD lenses when mounted still have some play. I don't bother and trust the weather sealing but its there. When I mount Fuji XF lenses to these two cameras, they click-in and there is absolutely no play on lenses when mounted, just a fabulous build quality on top of weather sealing. And they have exceptionally fast lenses like the 50mm f/1.0 which I showed in the video.
Yes, I think the build quality is excellent too. Some people discount the Fujifilm line-up, overlooking the fact that professionals get excellent, publishable images (e.g., see Andy Mumford’s videos).
Pretty well laid out comparison... the original plan was a X-H2s and X-T5 combo for my 2-camera set-up, but I cancelled the X-T5 pre-order and opted for the X-H2. After using the X-H2s the benefits of the CFexpress slot was too hard for me to pass up.
Hey, was thinking to get an XH-2s for myself. How does the Autofocus Perform on this Camera for Animal and Sport or Kinda fastmoving objects. After the last FIrmware Update how does it stand? greetings.
@@IJAY2509 … it’s definitely an excellent option for sports and fast moving subjects in both stills and video… especially for the price. I personally have not tried it out on animals, but I do have a Bengal kitten that I plan on shooting soon just to see how it does. IMHO, the AF is good-2-go on this camera even before the latest firmware update.
@@GrayGhostDog1 ATM im using a Canon r6 but im looking for a Seconds Set Up and i kinda felt in Love with the xh2 and the xh2s. I mainly shoot street, Portrait and stills in General But i know exactly, when i buy the xh2 and im on a Shooting with someone who wants Images with His Dog an i dont have the fast af abilitys from the xh2s i will regret IT. But the xh2 ist such a good package and the decision between the xh2 and xh2s is so hard... 😵💫😵💫😵💫. The Most annoying Thing in my r6 is the strict Lens Policy. I mean Sure. I can use old ef Glass or cheap RF lenses, but buying lenses for the price of a whole Setup is kinda frustrating.
@@IJAY2509 Up to a certain degree I can understand why Canon implemented their strict lens policy. When I look at a lot of camera reviews I tend to take them with a grain of salt due to some of them using anything from factory lenses, 3rd party lenses, adapted lenses, different speed booster adapters, etc., etc. ... too many variables. Canon can make certain performance guarantees when their cameras are used with their lenses. Most of Canon's RF lenses are superb. They are pricey, but that's the price you have to pay when going full-frame.... ... the X-H2 is a good package. I technically carry it around with me more than the X-H2s. My X-H2s is in a cage and frequently rigged-up for video.
Great video for the new Fuji bodies. I shoot with an SL2 as well as a XT5 and a XH2S. I use the Fuji’s for travel and the XH2S for dog shows and sports. Sold off my XH1 and XT3 to fund the newer tech. Definitely not disappointed.
I started shooting with my X-H2 with SD card only. (I had decent fast cards from my X-T2). For the buffer, along with the larger buffer on the X-H2 compared to X-T5, you can clear the buffer a lot faster with the CFexpress card. For me, this was worth the cost of the faster card.
I think you missed one detail of the screen on the X-T5, it can flip out in an additional direction from the one you showed. There is a button for it on the left side of the screen. (Sorry if I missed you mentioning this at a different point in the video.)
I already tested it, fantastic lens. I did not make a video yet, if people are interested I can summarize my experience with the GF 20-35 and can also show sample images :)
Sold my Fuji XPro3 last year to get into the Hasselblad X system with the X2D. As it took months to get the camera, I frequently rented gear - also the XH2. After the first shoot with it, going through the images, I basically told myself: This is all you needed 😅 Of course, the X2D (or a GFX100S) are different beasts when you look at the images in detail as well as tonality, but for most work it does not matter. Will keep my Fuji X lenses in case I get second thoughts and will maybe do something crazy: go back to APSC. 😂
As always, many thanks. As well as my Leica, Hasselblad, Linhoff etc etc collections I also have the X-100, the X-Pro-1 and the X-Pro-3 which I love and is usually the camera which I grab just as I walk out the door, love it !! It would be nice if you could do a X-Pro-3 review which i would be very interested in as I admire your thoroughness and point of view. Best regards, Cheers ; and a very Merry Christmas to you and your family. Neill
Thanks Neil, Merry Xmas to you and your family! I do not have access to an X-Pro-3 at this point in time but I've shot previous versions of the X-Pro and must say this is an excellent and compact camera too. Fuji APS-C sensors are in my experience in particular good for catching light when it gets darker, and night sky as well as Milky Way works well on these cameras.
@@mathphotographer Many thanks, much appreciated, I hope that you and your family have a great Christmas. X-Pro-3 ! maybe next year , you can borrow mine ! but not for long !!!! Cheers Neil
hi, I am a fan of your tutorial and technical videos, thank you for providing this. I own GFX100S and I love its deep image quality but unfortunately, I cannot take it everywhere because of its heavy weight. Based on your experiments, 40mp on XH2 with red batch lenses is giving me crispy sharpness and dynamic range for image quality like 102mp on GFX100s? Do you think it's a good decision to sell my GFX100s and lenses and invest in XH2 with red batch lenses?
I own the Fujifilm X-H2s. I've been a pro photographer my whole life, 66 years. I would not trade this camera for any other camera in the world. I had a Fujifilm XT4 and Canon R7, and sold them both, after testing the 3 in open shade, sun light, and low light. Fujifilm X-H2s was the best of all in all situations. I like it so much; I bought a second one.
Hi there, what’s your opinion on the 50 1.0 vs 56mm 1.2? The 50 is 800€ at my shop and the 56 is new so 1099€, what would you should if you could buy only one? Thanks
I chose Fujifilm H2 because there is an xf memory card, 8k video, a full HDMI input, an additional screen, a comfortable grip, finally a good control button, a swivel display, better evf 📸👍🎥
Excellent comparison video! I think Fuji made a mistake by not endowing the T5 with the same deep grip, vertical grip ability, deep buffer and EVF as the H2. If that were the case then the only difference would really be the top dial vs. the menu operation of the H2, plus the flip out vs tilt screen. I think for only $300 more the H2 is a much better value for the money, unless someone is really in love with the retro look of the T5. Then Fuji has the gall to offer a $130 grip extender which only offers a physical addition...that already takes you almost halfway to the price of the H2. Good to see the IQ on both especially the high ISO/low light capabilities.
I tried both the X-H2 and the X-T5 and the 5 is more comfortable in hand. The 2 doesn’t fit my hand as well as my Sony A7R IV, due to the button layout.
@@kaneclements7761 Interesting - it all depends on the size of the hands and personal preference too. Back in the film days (OM cameras) I always put a motor drive or winder on the camera just for the grip. But I will make a pilgrimage to B&H and try out both.
Not having the optional battery grip for the XT-5 is a deal breaker for me. This is the 1st camera in the XT lineup that does NOT offer this option. I do not need the “extra” megapixels of the XT-5. At some point, I may have an interest in purchasing the XH2-s. Until then, I will keep shooting my XT-3 cameras with the attached battery grips. Each new iteration of Fuji cameras seem to get closer to Canon, Nikon & Sony autofocus performance.Perhaps new firmware updates can achieve this for current Fujifilm cameras. Let us hope so.🙏
Yes Omar, that's what I said, 50mm is always 50mm but depending on what sensor or film size you are shooting, the Field of View and Depth of Field changes. That's what I mean when talking about "full frame equivalent" Field of View and Depth of Field ...
I have seen issues with the XT5 in C-AF and it's in focus hit rate being much worse than the XH2 which is very frustrating, im presuming its the processing power in burst rate but states the same processor in each, seems you spent most of your testing time with the XH2, did you do any comparisons with AF speed and accuracy between the two?
Thanks for sharing this, just one thing you mentioned doesn’t make sense? Why does the aperture change when converting the 50mm f1.0 from APS to FF? Can understand translating the equivalent field of view to 75mm to give an idea, but why you changing the FF Aperture (EV) amount of light that comes in to F1.5? The Fuji 50mm will still let in more light and will use lower iso when using same shutter under same light. Its not an equivalent EV value.
With changing sensor size not only the FoV but also the DoF changes. There are tutorials on this on my channel but the most comprehensive explanations for that you find on many photo blogs in the web and also on the RUclips channel of lots of photographers, for instance on Tony Northrup' channel. By the way, here is a really well written article on how crop factors affect focal length, aperture and ISO settings: petapixel.com/2017/03/29/dispelling-myths-around-depth-field-crop-factor/
@@mathphotographer wrong, but thanks for the feedback, the field of view might change with sensor size but the DOF has no affect, DOF = Focal length, Aperture and distance to subject, sensor size has no effect on depth of field, think of it this way, sensor size is similar as cropping an image, example If u take an image with Canon R6 Full frame using 100mm lens at F4 with subject at 5 metres, then u take the exact same photo and settings using a crop sensor say an R7 body, the only different is that it’s a tighter shot (the image is cropped) DOP stays exactly the same, and this was the point I was trying make.
@@eliaspap8708 Thank you for your feedback. I think this is a long and technical discussion if you just say "wrong", and I am fully conscious that in the photo community the discussion never really came to an end, although every book and pro-tutorial out there will agree with me that crop factor has to applied to the focal length and aperture if the sensor size changes and you want to achieve an "equivalent field of view" and "equivalent depth of field". Since I do not know what reference you would accept in addition to my comment, here is another article in addition to the one I included in my last comment that might help you to understand the concept of "equivalence" in terms of focal length and aperture: fstoppers.com/education/understanding-how-sensor-size-affects-depth-field-312599 If you want to go through the math and formulas to see it yourself, maybe my long tutorial here (comparison between full frame Leica and medium format Hasselblad) is helpful: ruclips.net/video/UWiVxaA1scM/видео.html The concept of "equivalence" w.r.t. focal length, aperture and ISO is well studied and implemented in every DoF calculator I am aware of, be it on Android, iPhone or the Web (for instance PhotoPills on mobile phones; just play in such Apps with the numbers when changing sensor size and you can reversely figure out the applied crop factor to focal length and aperture). In any case, there is no need to either believe the mainstream photography theory or to believe me, as long as you shoot nice photos, you are likely where you want to be :) Photos are made by the photographer and not by camera/lens/theory and we should enjoy photography without the burden of technicalities :)
@@mathphotographer Thank you for the links I appreciate that, but I have diploma in photography and have studied light and optics as an extensive subject and prefer to refer to my education rather then RUclips clips, if you now bring the term “equivalent DOP” then that’s whole different conversation. Equivalencies in DOF was not what the clip referred too, or not how I understood anyway, the 50mm f1.0 will still let in F1.0 amount of light ev value, not F1.5 as was stated. DOF equivalency is different to ev. , ev is the amount of light (exposure amount) this F1.0 shouldn’t be converted to F1.5 as default as it’s mis leading when factoring ev or when setting your iso values. If comparing to DOF equivalency then you need to make that clear and also to which specific sensor size. Also DOF equivalency doesn’t suggest the bokeh, Optics can be designed to refract light differently in order to give smoother creamier bokeh this usually sacrifices sharpness especially towards the edges, there are many factors that come in play that dictate lens character. I own the 50mm f1.0 and can see it’s not for everyone it has a special kind of character and is not something you can easily compare too by throwing some random focal lengths and F stops around, who the hell owns a 75mm f1.5 lens? there is almost no such thing, so it’s impossible to compare unless you are the 0.001% population that may own a 75mm Leica which is very rare lens.
@@eliaspap8708 Thank you Elias, I fully respect your thoughts, photography degree and expertise. But with all due respect, I did not talk in the video about EVs as you now do in your comment. I talk about "full frame equivalence" which concerns FoV and DoF. The passage is @03:14 in the video about "Full frame EQUIVALENT focal length and aperture" as you can also see in the table of content in the infobox below the video. Of course the 50mm f1.0 "will still let in an F1.0 amount of light ev value" to quote your comment. I never disputed that. Focal length and aperture are physical properties of the lens and are what they are, its basic physics, optics and math and you are clearly an expert so you will know for sure what I am talking about. Nowhere in the video @03:14 I talk about "changing EVs" as you do in your comment. I speak about full frame equivalent focal length and aperture compared to an APSC-sensor size in the Fuji cameras, so I also reference exactly the sensor sizes for the equivalence relation, its Fuji APSC vs standard full frame sensor size (formerly known as 35mm format in film terminology). Therefore, I assume you mis-understood what I mean with "full frame equivalence", we are for sure aligned and we can close this chapter and debate :) In any case, thanks for your comments and thoughts.
Maybe fujifilm should keep increasing the size of their x mount sensor but keep it below the full frame sensor size. Finding the right balance between sensor size, sensor brightness, mega pixel size and portability of its equipments and not being restricted by the apsc standard.
Nice video. Thinking of buying a first camera :D I prefer to get a new one instead of used, mainly for photos, like travel and some buildings / landscape. But there are so many options, I have to see if there is a good local shop to hold them. Thinking Sony A6700, or fuji x-t5, x-h2 or maybe even the small x-s20. I like the lookos of the x-t5 and the dials, on the other hand I prefer the grip of the h2 :D So my dream would maybe be a mix of both :D . On youtube so many videos complain about the autofocus, but I guess have to see. Anyhow a hard decision (my expectation is that I won't do a lot of video recording).
My combo is XH2s and XT5. I'm a movie still photographer so I need a camera that can accommodate my needs on set. XH2s with stack censored are very useful when it comes to shooting action movies. And the XT5 with its small body is very helpful as an additional camera
@@normandy2501 Maybe luck. My former boss recommended me to try to be still photographer at a production house in Indonesia. they matched the results and it has continued to this day
Saw this comment and I had to chuckle because the EVF doesn’t actually take the photo. Yeah just letting you know that it might look great in the efv but it doesn’t actually take the photo. I don’t spend a lot of time looking in the evf to be quite honest, the fact it off and take photos, not even looking at what I’m even taking a photo of because I know where the lens is pointed
@@mathphotographer Why are people obsessed with the EVF The EVF doesn’t take the photo…. Yes, we survived with optical you find this info I still prefer an optical view finder to be quite honest. Are use Nikon D850 cameras with optical viewfinders and I actually prefer it but I didn’t have a for you from camera as well but I certainly don’t believe we should be complaining about EVFs That’s a ridiculous reason not to buy a camera.
Hi Kahlil, your question was raised several times and I need to look into it, will do in the course of the next weeks. The more natural comparison though would be the Hasselblad X2D against the Hasselblad H6D (which is the equivalent of the Phase One system).
I think that's a really good combo since the X-H2S is even better on speed than what I showed in the video and the GFX100s is the ultimate power house when it comes to resolution and image quality.
Fuji's are great camera's and IMO they can compete with a lot of other brand FF's I had a X100F in the past and enjoyed shooting it as my point and shoot take everywhere camera and made great shots. But the problem with Fuji is the service, at least here in the Netherlands. Mines had some issues and I send it in for repair. went to my camera shop and they immediately send the camera to the European Service point just over the Dutch border in Germany. I called them and they said the camera was there only for administration purposes and they would send it to England for repairs. After repair they send it from England back to Germany, where it was administratively booked as repaired and send it back to the camera shop in Holland where I could pick it up. The repair was flawless but the whole trip took over 6 weeks. When using this or another Fuji camera for pro tasks this should be taken in consideration before buying or stepping into the Fuji system. Great video though and thanks for sharing And a Merry Merry Christmas, ho ho ho !!!
Thanks RS, your repair journey sounds like a true nightmare, I was not aware that their service is so bad since I never had to send in a Fuji camera so far, and I owned a lot of Fuji cameras. But clearly, if it happens, you want quick service and not losing your gear for many weeks. Merry Xmas and have a great start into 2023.
Der Cropfactor wir bei der Blende nicht mit 1,5 genommen. Sondern 1 Blendenstufe, bei der Bildwirkung/Freistellung. Auf VF Sensor entspricht das also ca 75mm F1.4, wobei die Lichtstärke für das Belichtungsdreieck bei 1.0 bleibt.
I always go for "standard", no filters. I do all tweaking later in post and filters as well as photo simulation on Fuji only affect JPG images anyway. I work with RAW files in post.
Hi Kahlil, the original adapter from Hasselblad is the best but its price tag is more than $5k so out of scope if you aim for "affordable". You can easily use Canon or Nikon T/S lenses on the X2D with a suitable adapter, works well, that's one solution with less than half of the price tag of the HTS 1.5 from Hasselblad. And then there are various adapters, e.g., from Kipon, which are likely the cheapest solution, see here: kipon.com/product-category/adapter/ts-adapters/?swoof=1&pa_body=hasselblad-x1d&really_curr_tax=260-product_cat - this will clearly work and is below $1k. There are more options but they are a bit kinky, I would say Kipon is the best address to go to for what you are looking for.
Excellent video, thank you! 😊I fully agree but I think it is important to point out the differences between the tilting functionality of the screens. For me the screen on the XT5 which again has the feature to be simply lifted up horizontally is immensely important for some kind of shooting.
But then it out performs full frame cameras for video in its price bracket. I know it’s subjective, but for me the grip on the X-H2 cameras more than make up for the slightly increase in weight and size. I feel less strain in my hand holding it compared to the X-T5 where I am pinching the camera more with my finger tips.
Thanks Donald, as said in the video: the X-T5 without doubt is the more beautiful classic camera. And you have more mechanical control elements. Where I agree with "GHAS" is the grip, and I mentioned this a couple of times in the video. The grip of the X-H2(S) is amazing and great when shooting for a longer time.
Hello , please reply my comment . I would like to buy a new camera . Im a makeup artist . I need to shoot reels makeup video transition and take photo of my client and details of makeup . Which one i need to buy i still so confuse actually
Hi - let me try to answer this shortly. Both Fuji-X cameras in this video are fine for what you want to achieve. Having said that, if you have budget for spending more, the new Sony a7R V is likely an excellent choice for your business, in particular when it comes to smooth video transitions plus excellent image quality. For the Sony you only need one lens for your job (although there are many excellent Sony lenses out there). If I would be you, I would go for the Sony FE 24-70 GM II (the "Mark II" here is important). If you want to shoot with Fuji-X instead, go for the Fuji X-H2, it just offers a bit more than the Fuji X-T5. Hope it helps :)
Correction: F1.0 multiply by crop factor x1.5 is equivalent F1.2. Not F1.5 as you said Because the crop factor applied as the x1.5 Stop, not x1.5 numerical.
Thanks Tyo but your statement is not correct, please see here photographylife.com/equivalence-also-includes-aperture-and-iso and scroll down to the aperture equivalence table as well as to the text who explains and actually demonstrates how it works.
Right now you can get the XH2 for only 150 more and it includes the $400 grip for free which is not an option on the XT5. Better viewfinder and better video too.
THE FOV on lens you are filming with makes those lenses and cameras look huge (petal lens hoods don't help either). Point of view is like I am a small animal looking at the cameras peeking over the table, so that doesn't help the scale factor... Laughs... My fuji X-t2 with a XF 16mm f1.4 looks tiny in comparison. I do fancy the X-H2 though. Great review BTW 👍
Hey Great Video. I guess u are speaking German too? Or did i Guess wrong:D? U said the XH-2 Would be better for Animal and Sport shooting, but is there not another Challenger in the Race? The XH-2s?
Hey :) Yes I am born in Germany although I lived many years abroad. Your comment is spot-on: if you do not need the high megapixels on the X-H2, then the X-H2s is the even better choice for sports and action!
@@mathphotographer dann kann ich ja Mal auf deutsch antworten und nicht mit meinem schlechten Englisch ☺️. Ja wie gesagt, ich bin kurz davor mir entweder die Xh2 oder die 2s zu holen. Der 40 mp Sensor ist schon nice und auch die Bilder die das Teil produziert sind Hammer. Aber der schnelle af für Tier und andere Sparten überzeugt mich glaube dann doch mehr. Schnelligkeit wäre mir wichtiger als MP. Ich verschenke halt viel Potential bei den beiden Kameras weil ich wirklich fast ausschließlich fotografiere, habe mir Video wenig am Hut. 😂
They both have the same internals and use the same lenses, the difference is in the control layout, or feel, so it comes down to personal preference, done.
The biggest disappointment on the T5 for me is the buffer size. I used the T3 for sports and action. It was a very capable sports camera. The T5 not so much. I still live the looks and design of the T5.
APS-C sensors over the past six years in particular have become quite good. So much so, in fact, that they're probably good enough for 90% of most photographers, 90% of the time. In fact, I know plenty of shooters who use APS-C for most of their professional work. Now, if Fujifilm would just give us an X-Pro4 in 2023...
I really don’t understand why Fujifilm haven’t fitted the tilt and flip screen from the XT100 it’s a ingenious design and is the answer to stills photographers and videographers it’s so well built sturdy and should please both styles of togs. Come on Fujifilm let’s get the XT100 rear screen fitted to your future cameras please !
Correct - f/1light is always f/1 light. What I spoke about in the video is full frame equivalence ... not in any controversion to "light amount is light amount" :)
There is no such thing like a "crop sensor" nothing is cropped its just a smaller sensor. If you call apsc crop because it is smaller than a 35mm you have to call a 35 a crop sensor too as it is smaller than a medium format sensor
Thanks for your comment. You likely know that the crop factor of a sensor always compares the size of that considered sensor to the full frame sensor size, not to the larger medium formats although they are superior. Means, if you calculate the crop factor of a sensor smaller than full frame you get a crop factor greater than 1, say, 1.5 or 1.6 for the most common APSC-sensors. If in contrast you calculate the crop factor of a sensor larger than full frame you get a crop factor smaller than 1, say, 0.79 for Fuji GFX and Hasselblad-X. Means the full frame sensor size always sits in the numerator of the crop factor because a crop factor always relates any other sensor size to full frame size. So you would never call a full frame sensor a "cropped sensor" just because its size is smaller than the even more superior medium format. Medium format is not the benchmark when calculating crop factors, full frame is the benchmark for crop factors. This notion goes back to the 35mm film format to use full frame as benchmark for calculating crop factors. Thinking this to the end, a full frame sensor is not a "crop sensor" because its THE benchmark and the crop factor of full frame is 1. An APSC-sensor is a "crop sensor" because the sensor area is smaller, "cropped in" compared to the sensor size of a full frame sensor. That's why not only from me but from many others you hear that notion "crop sensor" from time to time. Hope that helps :)
My only comment is why you would buy into Fuji APSc when there seems to many superior choices in FF with access to better lenses for same money, size weight bulk. There’s no argument for APSc anymore. And with Hasselblad X2D the line is blurring at the other end of FF with MF.
The argument is the X-H2S, which gives you stacked sensor performance for less than half the price of full frame. No full frame camera within the X-H2S price range competes with it when it comes to video features.
Not all FF system lenses are similarly priced. Check out the cost of Canon or Nikon 100-400 zoom and compare that to the Fuji price. There’s a huge difference in price and they are all similar quality.
I just replied in two comments that a combo of the X-H2S and GFX100s might be the ultimate solution. The X-H2S is super fast for sports & action and the GFX100s brings the fine art resolution and medium format look. Menu systems are compatible, batteries are compatible and the handling is also very similar. So I believe that photographers who go for such a combo have good arguments on their side :)
Correct :) But I spoke about "full frame EQUIVALENCE" which relates focal length and aperture to sensor size whereas you speak about the lens standalone without reference to any sensor size. Means: the Field of View and Depth of Field of this 50mm f/1.0 lens on an APS-C sensor is equivalent to the Field of View and Depth of Field of a 75mm f/1.5 lens on a full frame sensor. That's what a crop factor of 1.5 means. A good way to see why both of our statements are correct is to read some educational material on DPREVIEW on basics of photography: www.dpreview.com/articles/2666934640/what-is-equivalence-and-why-should-i-care
@@mathphotographer I never liked the "equivalence" comparisons as it confuses many photographers especially newbies. A 1.0 lens is a 1.0 lens, a 50mm lens is a 50mm lens - the lens spits out the same image whether it's mounted on a FF body (if Fuji made one, or if it was adapted to a FF body of another brand) and an APS-C body. ** of course sensor coverage might be an issue by design for an APSC designed lens.
You are incorrect to apply crop factor to aperture, or to say that depth of field is drpendent on sensor size. It is not. Take a pictire with a lens mounted on a tripod with a FF camera, then exchange the body with an APS body without changing position and with identical exposure settings. How will the images differ? The APS will be smaller, but otherwise just like the center of the full-frame image. The depth of field and bokeh in the images will be identical. It is a common mistake to think that sensor size effects these things, it does not.
thank you very much for your video and this is indeed a great camera. But this camera makes no sense, I'm sorry. This is a crop sensor camera, this is above several much better full frame cameras in the market today, it just makes no sense. and the same goes for some of Fujifilm's better lenses that are just about as expensive (or some even more) and just about as big as full frame counter parts, again, this makes no sense. Crop sensor cameras used to have their place in the market as a smaller, more compact and affordable alternative to full frame. In the meantime, full frame cameras have become much more affordable and dramatically smaller, while crop sensor offerings have jumped into the high-end full frame arena both in price and size, all of which is nonsense.
xt-5 is a great camera for the enthusiast but it's not a "pro" camera the x-h2 is just a pumped-up xt-5 and is an overbuilt aps-c camera which takes fine photos but can't claim any greater pro status
I actually think there are a number of pro photographers who work with these two cameras :) They would likely respectfully disagree to not be seen as pros :)
Great review. Forget the big lenses-am I the only person who uses on-camera flash? For serious work, the XT5 is a non-starter with no grip. XH2 selfie screen is unappealing, as is the redundant top display-make it a shutter-ISO combo dial and we’d almost be there-oh ya, I want clickable dials and a battery charger in my $2,000 box. I don’t care if that somehow makes it less “weather resistant”-I don’t intentionally seek crap weather and if I did I’d have my camera wrapped in plastic raincoat! Sheesh Fuji - why does the XH2 exist? The XT is the better “photographers” camera and it deserved the pro treatment. Maybe next time.
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I used the t5 for a bit and loved it, but I really wanted the bigger buffer, better evf, battery grip and the xt4 style screen. I ended up sending the xt5 back and ordered the xh2. What a brilliant camera. Nice review.
Thanks for sharing.
That was a PHENOMENAL comparison / review. Unbelievable good. Thank you Sir.
Thank you very much for your kind feedback, much appreciated.
Blown away, this is a perfect presentation, fast and focused. Even though there was a mass of info presented, I was mesmerized from beginning to end.
Thank you very much, Edward, appreciate the kind words.
Interesting video. I’ve a couple of Leica M and a GFX100S and a XT4. Fujifilm cameras, to me, deliver that passion for photography vibe - It’s a manufacturer that understands that the experience while photographing is as important as the results (almost like Leica).
Fully agree, Pedro. I fully enjoyed shooting these cameras with the five lenses I showed in the video. And since I also shoot a lot with my GFX100s, the menu and handling felt familiar from the very beginning.
Thank you so much for this honest review. I like the 'vibe' of the T5 better, and I shoot almost only stills. And BTW I also appreciate your input on those lenses.
Thanks John, then the T5 is your choice and you will not regret it :)
NIce review! It's great to see you starting to review X system cameras and lenses. There's one thing that I'm surprised you didn't mention and that is the fact the X-T5, like your GFX 100, has a three-way flip screen. In your video, you just showed the screen flipping horizontally, not vertically. Although that might seem like a small detail to some people, it is actually a really big deal to others (such as myself) who are primarily stills shooters and do a lot of low-angle shots in portrait mode. Anyway, your review and comparison are very much appreciated. Thanks for taking the extensive time to create it.
Thanks for pointing out, you are right. And thanks for the positive feedback on my content.
Just a note to mention if one wants the XT-5 with a bit more grip, Fuji offers an add-on grip which has an Arca-Swiss plate at the bottom.
Great comment, thanks for sharing.
It actually makes the grip perfect.
Excellent video, comparing the two cameras. Leaning towards the T5 and this comparison has made it more clear. Thank you
Thanks Carlos, great the video helped for your decision making.
That 16-55 lens is very impressive! Those eyes at 8mins in are popping!
Indeed - thanks!
Thanks for such a. detailed review of the two cameras. One reason I opted for the XH2 was the addition of the battery grip, useful with longer lenses.
Glad the video was helpful! And I think you made the right choice, the X-H2 is just a but superior although many people quickly fall in love with the nice retro look of the X-T5 :)
I use a Sony A7R IV for wild life and where I need to crop heavily. Daily carry round is an X-E4. I’ve just got the X-T5 for landscape / hiking etc etc when weight and weatherproofing are important. The 5 and two WR lenses are incredibly portable and allow me to carry all the other stuff I need for a day on the hill or in mountains.
Thanks for sharing, Kane - spot-on comment.
As others have commented here , this is a great comparison and one of the best on RUclips between these two cameras. I respect everyones view and although I love the look and feel of the Fujifilm dials they aren't for me and I prefer the control and technology interface of the H2 esp for the 18mm f1.4 which is my main lens. Both of these cameras are superb. For me...more customisation of controls which gives me faster shooting + better grip with larger lenses+ better evf + cfexpress = H2.
Thanks for such a thorough review! Great to hear you making such positive comments about this system, given some of the other amazing cameras you have access to. I have the X-H2s - the speed is great for fashion week catwalk photography, but it also serves me well for other pro work. I have the GFX for more high-res needs. I did have a Q2 for a couple of years. It was a great camera but as it held its value so well it was too tempting to sell to fund some new Fuji lenses! Also, I’m so used to the look of some of the Fuji film simulations, I could never get the Leica to match up if I used it on the same shoot. Anyway, very interesting to hear your perspective on this system 😊
Many thanks for the positive feedback. I truly enjoyed this camera system. As I just commented to "GHAS", a combination of the X-H2S (speed) and the GFX100s (resolution, medium format) is a great idea because you have for all applications the best of both worlds and the batteries are the same so you can easily swap batteries between these camera systems. And the menu and handling is very similar.
I'm glad you are expanding your reviews beyond FF and MF.
Thought too its a good idea, looking into something more affordable. And I really enjoyed the experience :) when shooting these 5 lenses on these Fuji cameras.
Excellent review. I prefer and opted for the XT5. The only downside, which I can work around, is the buffer size for continuous shooting in RAW (I shoot sports about 20% of my images). As I hike a lot, including in the Swiss Alps, I wanted the smaller/lighter body. Love the Swiss lake night shot!
Thanks!
Great review! Thanks for reviewing these cameras so thoroughly!
Thanks Tom, appreciate the kind feedback.
Another outstanding video!
Thanks for the video. A much needed detailed comparison for me.
Glad it was helpful!
Great review! Thank you!
Great work. Thanks but I'm still facing doubts :-)
I shoot weddings and studio with a XT2 and a XH1. I have a special love for the XH1.
Excellent XT5 X XH 2 , by far the best ci=omoaratioin . I personally decidedd to Buy 2 XT 5 because I only take photos . All the best and keep posting videos . Many thanks
Great you liked the review, thanks Marcos.
I did a video shoot using my XT5. Was quite surprised by the results. Crispy footage indeed.
Thank you for a detailed & thorough review. Fuji cameras offer a tremendous value for their price point, IMHO. I believe the XT-5 & the XH-2 & XH-2s should meet the needs of many photographers. My only disappointment in the XT-5 camera is that it is the first camera in the XT line up that does NOT offer an optional battery grip.🙁
Thanks for your comment, appreciated. I saw a handgrip for the X-T5 but indeed no battery grip so far, maybe coming later ... let's see. Both cameras are incredibly good and, as you spot-on said, will meet the needs of most pro photographers.
Thanks for a very nice and clear review. I'm shooting 4 minutes long exposures to a large extent. Will the X-T5 have a tendency to overheat and produce hot pixels or is the H-H2 the clear choice in this case? I don't shoot video and will not use burst mode either. Your thoughts, pls.
The XT5 can be setup and prepared for shooting while turned on, on account of dials. It also inherits the aging EVF from the XH1. The EVF in the XH2 is breathtaking.
Correct, thanks for pointing out.
Using the H2, you can program - nearly, eg. no evf preview - everything from AF to white balance to your likings and reproduce it when needed. So the T5 is quite lame and it's user interface provokes errors.
An excellent review of both cameras! You're probably already aware, but just in case, at 13:58 you can also do a long-press of the button on both cameras to get to the same place. Saves a lot of menu navigation!
long-press of the 'DISP BACK' button (I set the font to bold and it disappeared upon posting)
Great comment, many thanks for pointing out, Tom.
While I realize you were comparing the 40mp camera bodies, I see from comments that many owners own two camera bodies. Nevertheless, what are your thoughts for the photo enthusiast who wants to own just one camera body for stills & video and prefers the XH design…XH2 vs XH2s??
Fujifilm’s dedication to beauty in design and in color replication was evident in the original X100 and has remained to up to and including the two cameras as well as the lenses you discussed here. If one reviews the videos and articles concerning the impetus for the X100 and subsequent series, one can get a sense of the depth dedication to traditional design elements coupled with evolving technology. I’ve owned several X, XT, X-Pro, and GFX cameras and have enjoyed all of them based on their particular designs and their disparate missions. The X100V, X-Pro 3, and XT-5 beautifully represent traditional design and are a pleasure to behold and to use. The XH2/XH2S comprise the new flagship models, although it will be interesting to see how the eventual X-Pro 4 is marketed. This was a wonderful video review, and I’m glad you showed such excellent example images from a variety of lenses. The 23mm f/ 1.4 is my workhorse in the XF series, but I love the handling and image quality of the 50mm f/ 1.0. The XF 8-16mm is also wonderful, with a unique look, in my opinion.
Thanks for sharing, Ben. Looks like you did shoot a lot of Fujis in the past, great to hear. The lens portfolio for these cameras is excellent and what impresses me as a side comment is the build quality. To make an example, on my new Hasselblad X2D all XCD lenses when mounted still have some play. I don't bother and trust the weather sealing but its there. When I mount Fuji XF lenses to these two cameras, they click-in and there is absolutely no play on lenses when mounted, just a fabulous build quality on top of weather sealing. And they have exceptionally fast lenses like the 50mm f/1.0 which I showed in the video.
Yes, I think the build quality is excellent too. Some people discount the Fujifilm line-up, overlooking the fact that professionals get excellent, publishable images (e.g., see Andy Mumford’s videos).
@@bsmukler Agree!
Pretty well laid out comparison... the original plan was a X-H2s and X-T5 combo for my 2-camera set-up, but I cancelled the X-T5 pre-order and opted for the X-H2. After using the X-H2s the benefits of the CFexpress slot was too hard for me to pass up.
I think this was a good decision, Jay. You will not regret.
Hey, was thinking to get an XH-2s for myself. How does the Autofocus Perform on this Camera for Animal and Sport or Kinda fastmoving objects. After the last FIrmware Update how does it stand? greetings.
@@IJAY2509 … it’s definitely an excellent option for sports and fast moving subjects in both stills and video… especially for the price. I personally have not tried it out on animals, but I do have a Bengal kitten that I plan on shooting soon just to see how it does. IMHO, the AF is good-2-go on this camera even before the latest firmware update.
@@GrayGhostDog1 ATM im using a Canon r6 but im looking for a Seconds Set Up and i kinda felt in Love with the xh2 and the xh2s. I mainly shoot street, Portrait and stills in General But i know exactly, when i buy the xh2 and im on a Shooting with someone who wants Images with His Dog an i dont have the fast af abilitys from the xh2s i will regret IT. But the xh2 ist such a good package and the decision between the xh2 and xh2s is so hard... 😵💫😵💫😵💫. The Most annoying Thing in my r6 is the strict Lens Policy. I mean Sure. I can use old ef Glass or cheap RF lenses, but buying lenses for the price of a whole Setup is kinda frustrating.
@@IJAY2509 Up to a certain degree I can understand why Canon implemented their strict lens policy. When I look at a lot of camera reviews I tend to take them with a grain of salt due to some of them using anything from factory lenses, 3rd party lenses, adapted lenses, different speed booster adapters, etc., etc. ... too many variables. Canon can make certain performance guarantees when their cameras are used with their lenses. Most of Canon's RF lenses are superb. They are pricey, but that's the price you have to pay when going full-frame....
... the X-H2 is a good package. I technically carry it around with me more than the X-H2s. My X-H2s is in a cage and frequently rigged-up for video.
22:57 and 23:57 what a beautiful photos!!! 👏🏻
Many thanks Dani.
The aperture crop factor only applies to depth of field but not in exposure, correct?
Great video for the new Fuji bodies. I shoot with an SL2 as well as a XT5 and a XH2S. I use the Fuji’s for travel and the XH2S for dog shows and sports. Sold off my XH1 and XT3 to fund the newer tech. Definitely not disappointed.
Thanks for sharing, great to hear that your positive impressions match with my experience with these two new camera bodies.
@@mathphotographer thanks for everything you do in our community. I stay glued to your channel.
I started shooting with my X-H2 with SD card only. (I had decent fast cards from my X-T2).
For the buffer, along with the larger buffer on the X-H2 compared to X-T5, you can clear the buffer a lot faster with the CFexpress card. For me, this was worth the cost of the faster card.
Yes - CFexpress is superior, spot-on comment!
I think you missed one detail of the screen on the X-T5, it can flip out in an additional direction from the one you showed. There is a button for it on the left side of the screen. (Sorry if I missed you mentioning this at a different point in the video.)
Thanks for pointing out.
Great Review !!!
Great video! Thanks for the informative take
Always a pleasure :) Its a bit away from my typical topics but thought that sharing how much these APS-C cameras impressed me might be a good idea :)
How come you don’t show the side swing on the X-T5 screen? I find it essential for vertical tripod shots and why I prefer the X-T series for stills!
Fair point, should have demonstrated that too. Thanks for pointing out!
Thank you for a truly excellent review.
Glad it was helpful!
Good evening mathphotographer, are you going to test the GF20-35 (on the GFX 100S)? Thanks for your answer and all the best to the Schweiz 😉
I already tested it, fantastic lens. I did not make a video yet, if people are interested I can summarize my experience with the GF 20-35 and can also show sample images :)
Sold my Fuji XPro3 last year to get into the Hasselblad X system with the X2D. As it took months to get the camera, I frequently rented gear - also the XH2. After the first shoot with it, going through the images, I basically told myself: This is all you needed 😅 Of course, the X2D (or a GFX100S) are different beasts when you look at the images in detail as well as tonality, but for most work it does not matter. Will keep my Fuji X lenses in case I get second thoughts and will maybe do something crazy: go back to APSC. 😂
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As always, many thanks. As well as my Leica, Hasselblad, Linhoff etc etc collections I also have the X-100, the X-Pro-1 and the X-Pro-3 which I love and is usually the camera which I grab just as I walk out the door, love it !! It would be nice if you could do a X-Pro-3 review which i would be very interested in as I admire your thoroughness and point of view. Best regards, Cheers ; and a very Merry Christmas to you and your family. Neill
Thanks Neil, Merry Xmas to you and your family! I do not have access to an X-Pro-3 at this point in time but I've shot previous versions of the X-Pro and must say this is an excellent and compact camera too. Fuji APS-C sensors are in my experience in particular good for catching light when it gets darker, and night sky as well as Milky Way works well on these cameras.
@@mathphotographer Many thanks, much appreciated, I hope that you and your family have a great Christmas. X-Pro-3 ! maybe next year , you can borrow mine ! but not for long !!!! Cheers Neil
@@naduncan100 Ha! :) Thanks for the offer :) Have a great start into 2023!
hi, I am a fan of your tutorial and technical videos, thank you for providing this. I own GFX100S and I love its deep image quality but unfortunately, I cannot take it everywhere because of its heavy weight. Based on your experiments, 40mp on XH2 with red batch lenses is giving me crispy sharpness and dynamic range for image quality like 102mp on GFX100s? Do you think it's a good decision to sell my GFX100s and lenses and invest in XH2 with red batch lenses?
I own the Fujifilm X-H2s. I've been a pro photographer my whole life, 66 years. I would not trade this camera for any other camera in the world. I had a Fujifilm XT4 and Canon R7, and sold them both, after testing the 3 in open shade, sun light, and low light. Fujifilm X-H2s was the best of all in all situations. I like it so much; I bought a second one.
Thanks for sharing, Blake, great comment. Once you are used to the Fuji-X system and found "your gear", nothing will be in your way :)
Hi there, what’s your opinion on the 50 1.0 vs 56mm 1.2? The 50 is 800€ at my shop and the 56 is new so 1099€, what would you should if you could buy only one? Thanks
Thanks man, great job 🤝
I chose Fujifilm H2 because there is an xf memory card, 8k video, a full HDMI input, an additional screen, a comfortable grip, finally a good control button, a swivel display, better evf 📸👍🎥
Good choice!
Excellent comparison video! I think Fuji made a mistake by not endowing the T5 with the same deep grip, vertical grip ability, deep buffer and EVF as the H2. If that were the case then the only difference would really be the top dial vs. the menu operation of the H2, plus the flip out vs tilt screen. I think for only $300 more the H2 is a much better value for the money, unless someone is really in love with the retro look of the T5. Then Fuji has the gall to offer a $130 grip extender which only offers a physical addition...that already takes you almost halfway to the price of the H2. Good to see the IQ on both especially the high ISO/low light capabilities.
I tried both the X-H2 and the X-T5 and the 5 is more comfortable in hand. The 2 doesn’t fit my hand as well as my Sony A7R IV, due to the button layout.
@@kaneclements7761 Interesting - it all depends on the size of the hands and personal preference too. Back in the film days (OM cameras) I always put a motor drive or winder on the camera just for the grip. But I will make a pilgrimage to B&H and try out both.
Agree Josef, the H2 is the better value for many but the T5 is just so beautiful ;)
@@mathphotographer especially in silver.
Not having the optional battery grip for the XT-5 is a deal breaker for me. This is the 1st camera in the XT lineup that does NOT offer this option. I do not need the “extra” megapixels of the XT-5. At some point, I may have an interest in purchasing the XH2-s. Until then, I will keep shooting my XT-3 cameras with the attached battery grips. Each new iteration of Fuji cameras seem to get closer to Canon, Nikon & Sony autofocus performance.Perhaps new firmware updates can achieve this for current Fujifilm cameras. Let us hope so.🙏
So, field of view, noise, dynamic range, depth of field and sharpness is not an issue anymore because of that 40mp sensor? :)
The aperture remains F1.0 in terms of how much light it allows but translates to F1. 5 in DoF only
Yes Omar, that's what I said, 50mm is always 50mm but depending on what sensor or film size you are shooting, the Field of View and Depth of Field changes. That's what I mean when talking about "full frame equivalent" Field of View and Depth of Field ...
I have seen issues with the XT5 in C-AF and it's in focus hit rate being much worse than the XH2 which is very frustrating, im presuming its the processing power in burst rate but states the same processor in each, seems you spent most of your testing time with the XH2, did you do any comparisons with AF speed and accuracy between the two?
I think the H2 is the better choice when it comes to fast autofocus tracking and burst mode, agree with your comment.
Thanks for sharing this, just one thing you mentioned doesn’t make sense? Why does the aperture change when converting the 50mm f1.0 from APS to FF? Can understand translating the equivalent field of view to 75mm to give an idea, but why you changing the FF Aperture (EV) amount of light that comes in to F1.5? The Fuji 50mm will still let in more light and will use lower iso when using same shutter under same light. Its not an equivalent EV value.
With changing sensor size not only the FoV but also the DoF changes. There are tutorials on this on my channel but the most comprehensive explanations for that you find on many photo blogs in the web and also on the RUclips channel of lots of photographers, for instance on Tony Northrup' channel. By the way, here is a really well written article on how crop factors affect focal length, aperture and ISO settings: petapixel.com/2017/03/29/dispelling-myths-around-depth-field-crop-factor/
@@mathphotographer wrong, but thanks for the feedback, the field of view might change with sensor size but the DOF has no affect, DOF = Focal length, Aperture and distance to subject, sensor size has no effect on depth of field, think of it this way, sensor size is similar as cropping an image, example If u take an image with Canon R6 Full frame using 100mm lens at F4 with subject at 5 metres, then u take the exact same photo and settings using a crop sensor say an R7 body, the only different is that it’s a tighter shot (the image is cropped) DOP stays exactly the same, and this was the point I was trying make.
@@eliaspap8708 Thank you for your feedback. I think this is a long and technical discussion if you just say "wrong", and I am fully conscious that in the photo community the discussion never really came to an end, although every book and pro-tutorial out there will agree with me that crop factor has to applied to the focal length and aperture if the sensor size changes and you want to achieve an "equivalent field of view" and "equivalent depth of field". Since I do not know what reference you would accept in addition to my comment, here is another article in addition to the one I included in my last comment that might help you to understand the concept of "equivalence" in terms of focal length and aperture: fstoppers.com/education/understanding-how-sensor-size-affects-depth-field-312599 If you want to go through the math and formulas to see it yourself, maybe my long tutorial here (comparison between full frame Leica and medium format Hasselblad) is helpful: ruclips.net/video/UWiVxaA1scM/видео.html The concept of "equivalence" w.r.t. focal length, aperture and ISO is well studied and implemented in every DoF calculator I am aware of, be it on Android, iPhone or the Web (for instance PhotoPills on mobile phones; just play in such Apps with the numbers when changing sensor size and you can reversely figure out the applied crop factor to focal length and aperture). In any case, there is no need to either believe the mainstream photography theory or to believe me, as long as you shoot nice photos, you are likely where you want to be :) Photos are made by the photographer and not by camera/lens/theory and we should enjoy photography without the burden of technicalities :)
@@mathphotographer Thank you for the links I appreciate that, but I have diploma in photography and have studied light and optics as an extensive subject and prefer to refer to my education rather then RUclips clips, if you now bring the term “equivalent DOP” then that’s whole different conversation. Equivalencies in DOF was not what the clip referred too, or not how I understood anyway, the 50mm f1.0 will still let in F1.0 amount of light ev value, not F1.5 as was stated. DOF equivalency is different to ev. , ev is the amount of light (exposure amount) this F1.0 shouldn’t be converted to F1.5 as default as it’s mis leading when factoring ev or when setting your iso values. If comparing to DOF equivalency then you need to make that clear and also to which specific sensor size. Also DOF equivalency doesn’t suggest the bokeh, Optics can be designed to refract light differently in order to give smoother creamier bokeh this usually sacrifices sharpness especially towards the edges, there are many factors that come in play that dictate lens character. I own the 50mm f1.0 and can see it’s not for everyone it has a special kind of character and is not something you can easily compare too by throwing some random focal lengths and F stops around, who the hell owns a 75mm f1.5 lens? there is almost no such thing, so it’s impossible to compare unless you are the 0.001% population that may own a 75mm Leica which is very rare lens.
@@eliaspap8708 Thank you Elias, I fully respect your thoughts, photography degree and expertise. But with all due respect, I did not talk in the video about EVs as you now do in your comment. I talk about "full frame equivalence" which concerns FoV and DoF. The passage is @03:14 in the video about "Full frame EQUIVALENT focal length and aperture" as you can also see in the table of content in the infobox below the video. Of course the 50mm f1.0 "will still let in an F1.0 amount of light ev value" to quote your comment. I never disputed that. Focal length and aperture are physical properties of the lens and are what they are, its basic physics, optics and math and you are clearly an expert so you will know for sure what I am talking about. Nowhere in the video @03:14 I talk about "changing EVs" as you do in your comment. I speak about full frame equivalent focal length and aperture compared to an APSC-sensor size in the Fuji cameras, so I also reference exactly the sensor sizes for the equivalence relation, its Fuji APSC vs standard full frame sensor size (formerly known as 35mm format in film terminology). Therefore, I assume you mis-understood what I mean with "full frame equivalence", we are for sure aligned and we can close this chapter and debate :) In any case, thanks for your comments and thoughts.
Maybe fujifilm should keep increasing the size of their x mount sensor but keep it below the full frame sensor size. Finding the right balance between sensor size, sensor brightness, mega pixel size and portability of its equipments and not being restricted by the apsc standard.
Interesting thought, thanks for sharing.
Nice video. Thinking of buying a first camera :D I prefer to get a new one instead of used, mainly for photos, like travel and some buildings / landscape. But there are so many options, I have to see if there is a good local shop to hold them. Thinking Sony A6700, or fuji x-t5, x-h2 or maybe even the small x-s20. I like the lookos of the x-t5 and the dials, on the other hand I prefer the grip of the h2 :D So my dream would maybe be a mix of both :D . On youtube so many videos complain about the autofocus, but I guess have to see. Anyhow a hard decision (my expectation is that I won't do a lot of video recording).
My combo is XH2s and XT5. I'm a movie still photographer so I need a camera that can accommodate my needs on set. XH2s with stack censored are very useful when it comes to shooting action movies. And the XT5 with its small body is very helpful as an additional camera
How did you get into that field if you don't mind me asking?
@@normandy2501 Maybe luck. My former boss recommended me to try to be still photographer at a production house in Indonesia. they matched the results and it has continued to this day
I choose the H2 because of the better Evf
EVF is a really good argument for the H2, plus all the other advantages.
Saw this comment and I had to chuckle because the EVF doesn’t actually take the photo. Yeah just letting you know that it might look great in the efv but it doesn’t actually take the photo. I don’t spend a lot of time looking in the evf to be quite honest, the fact it off and take photos, not even looking at what I’m even taking a photo of because I know where the lens is pointed
@@mathphotographer Why are people obsessed with the EVF The EVF doesn’t take the photo…. Yes, we survived with optical you find this info I still prefer an optical view finder to be quite honest. Are use Nikon D850 cameras with optical viewfinders and I actually prefer it but I didn’t have a for you from camera as well but I certainly don’t believe we should be complaining about EVFs That’s a ridiculous reason not to buy a camera.
@@nevvanclarke9225 my Point was that i choose the H2 instead of xt5 Because of Evf, better buffer, better ergonomics.
If manual focussing for macro a better evf is a significant factor
thank you! what kind of screen protector do you use for the xh2??
I use Dipos protectors, anti-finger print and matte surface; see here: www.dipos.de
@@mathphotographer thanks!
I wonder if you would compare the Hasselblad X2d to your phase one XF system. is there $40,000 difference? Thanks
Hi Kahlil, your question was raised several times and I need to look into it, will do in the course of the next weeks. The more natural comparison though would be the Hasselblad X2D against the Hasselblad H6D (which is the equivalent of the Phase One system).
My ideal set up would be X-H2S for speed/video and GFX for resolution. Planning to add a GFX to my X-H2S soon.
I think that's a really good combo since the X-H2S is even better on speed than what I showed in the video and the GFX100s is the ultimate power house when it comes to resolution and image quality.
And the battery system is the same so you can swap batteries easily.
Fuji's are great camera's and IMO they can compete with a lot of other brand FF's
I had a X100F in the past and enjoyed shooting it as my point and shoot take everywhere camera and made great shots.
But the problem with Fuji is the service, at least here in the Netherlands.
Mines had some issues and I send it in for repair. went to my camera shop and they immediately send the camera to the European Service point just over the Dutch border in Germany.
I called them and they said the camera was there only for administration purposes and they would send it to England for repairs. After repair they send it from England back to Germany, where it was administratively booked as repaired and send it back to the camera shop in Holland where I could pick it up.
The repair was flawless but the whole trip took over 6 weeks.
When using this or another Fuji camera for pro tasks this should be taken in consideration before buying or stepping into the Fuji system.
Great video though and thanks for sharing
And a Merry Merry Christmas, ho ho ho !!!
Thanks RS, your repair journey sounds like a true nightmare, I was not aware that their service is so bad since I never had to send in a Fuji camera so far, and I owned a lot of Fuji cameras. But clearly, if it happens, you want quick service and not losing your gear for many weeks. Merry Xmas and have a great start into 2023.
@@mathphotographer Merry Christmas en happy shooting in 2023
Der Cropfactor wir bei der Blende nicht mit 1,5 genommen. Sondern 1 Blendenstufe, bei der Bildwirkung/Freistellung. Auf VF Sensor entspricht das also ca 75mm F1.4, wobei die Lichtstärke für das Belichtungsdreieck bei 1.0 bleibt.
Thanks Thorsten, long debate in the community :) photographylife.com/equivalence-also-includes-aperture-and-iso
I got the fuji grip for the xt5. It feels sooo good in hand. Better than the xh2 to me.
beautiful! what photo simulation you used?
I always go for "standard", no filters. I do all tweaking later in post and filters as well as photo simulation on Fuji only affect JPG images anyway. I work with RAW files in post.
hey mathphotographer, i want an affordable tilt shift adapter for my hasselblad x2d can you help?
Hi Kahlil, the original adapter from Hasselblad is the best but its price tag is more than $5k so out of scope if you aim for "affordable". You can easily use Canon or Nikon T/S lenses on the X2D with a suitable adapter, works well, that's one solution with less than half of the price tag of the HTS 1.5 from Hasselblad. And then there are various adapters, e.g., from Kipon, which are likely the cheapest solution, see here: kipon.com/product-category/adapter/ts-adapters/?swoof=1&pa_body=hasselblad-x1d&really_curr_tax=260-product_cat - this will clearly work and is below $1k. There are more options but they are a bit kinky, I would say Kipon is the best address to go to for what you are looking for.
Excellent video, thank you! 😊I fully agree but I think it is important to point out the differences between the tilting functionality of the screens. For me the screen on the XT5 which again has the feature to be simply lifted up horizontally is immensely important for some kind of shooting.
Agree, and thanks, Thomas.
Out of curiosity, in which kind of shooting the X-T5 screen is more important?
I had the X-H2 briefly but thought it was too much like Full Frame in heft for a APS-C so would go XT-5 in my opinion
But then it out performs full frame cameras for video in its price bracket.
I know it’s subjective, but for me the grip on the X-H2 cameras more than make up for the slightly increase in weight and size. I feel less strain in my hand holding it compared to the X-T5 where I am pinching the camera more with my finger tips.
Thanks Donald, as said in the video: the X-T5 without doubt is the more beautiful classic camera. And you have more mechanical control elements. Where I agree with "GHAS" is the grip, and I mentioned this a couple of times in the video. The grip of the X-H2(S) is amazing and great when shooting for a longer time.
I have the xT4, xT5, and now the xH2. I started with the xT20. Still have and the abanded Canons
Hello , please reply my comment . I would like to buy a new camera . Im a makeup artist . I need to shoot reels makeup video transition and take photo of my client and details of makeup . Which one i need to buy i still so confuse actually
Hi - let me try to answer this shortly. Both Fuji-X cameras in this video are fine for what you want to achieve. Having said that, if you have budget for spending more, the new Sony a7R V is likely an excellent choice for your business, in particular when it comes to smooth video transitions plus excellent image quality. For the Sony you only need one lens for your job (although there are many excellent Sony lenses out there). If I would be you, I would go for the Sony FE 24-70 GM II (the "Mark II" here is important). If you want to shoot with Fuji-X instead, go for the Fuji X-H2, it just offers a bit more than the Fuji X-T5. Hope it helps :)
Good video, but mind you: a Fujifilm Filmsimulation is NOT a fillter!
Correction: F1.0 multiply by crop factor x1.5 is equivalent F1.2. Not F1.5 as you said
Because the crop factor applied as the x1.5 Stop, not x1.5 numerical.
Thanks Tyo but your statement is not correct, please see here photographylife.com/equivalence-also-includes-aperture-and-iso and scroll down to the aperture equivalence table as well as to the text who explains and actually demonstrates how it works.
Many thanks for your sharing!
Pleasure :)
The Bild quality is quite nice :-D Btw. - friendly feedback: you could save quite some time if you wouldn't repeat so much.
Right now you can get the XH2 for only 150 more and it includes the $400 grip for free which is not an option on the XT5. Better viewfinder and better video too.
I own/use both!
THE FOV on lens you are filming with makes those lenses and cameras look huge (petal lens hoods don't help either). Point of view is like I am a small animal looking at the cameras peeking over the table, so that doesn't help the scale factor... Laughs... My fuji X-t2 with a XF 16mm f1.4 looks tiny in comparison. I do fancy the X-H2 though. Great review BTW 👍
Thanks for the positive feedback and the nice comment, enjoyed reading it :)
Hey Great Video. I guess u are speaking German too? Or did i Guess wrong:D?
U said the XH-2 Would be better for Animal and Sport shooting, but is there not another Challenger in the Race? The XH-2s?
Hey :) Yes I am born in Germany although I lived many years abroad. Your comment is spot-on: if you do not need the high megapixels on the X-H2, then the X-H2s is the even better choice for sports and action!
@@mathphotographer dann kann ich ja Mal auf deutsch antworten und nicht mit meinem schlechten Englisch ☺️. Ja wie gesagt, ich bin kurz davor mir entweder die Xh2 oder die 2s zu holen. Der 40 mp Sensor ist schon nice und auch die Bilder die das Teil produziert sind Hammer. Aber der schnelle af für Tier und andere Sparten überzeugt mich glaube dann doch mehr. Schnelligkeit wäre mir wichtiger als MP. Ich verschenke halt viel Potential bei den beiden Kameras weil ich wirklich fast ausschließlich fotografiere, habe mir Video wenig am Hut. 😂
They both have the same internals and use the same lenses, the difference is in the control layout, or feel, so it comes down to personal preference, done.
Almost ... the specs of the X-H2 are a bit better as said in the video.
Hx2 for wedding photography
The biggest disappointment on the T5 for me is the buffer size. I used the T3 for sports and action. It was a very capable sports camera. The T5 not so much. I still live the looks and design of the T5.
You mentioned wrongly that it as 24 megapixels instead of 26 megapixels
❤❤ XH2
APS-C sensors over the past six years in particular have become quite good. So much so, in fact, that they're probably good enough for 90% of most photographers, 90% of the time. In fact, I know plenty of shooters who use APS-C for most of their professional work.
Now, if Fujifilm would just give us an X-Pro4 in 2023...
Thanks Robert, spot-on comment. And yes, we all wait now for the X-Pro4 :)
I really don’t understand why Fujifilm haven’t fitted the tilt and flip screen from the XT100 it’s a ingenious design and is the answer to stills photographers and videographers it’s so well built sturdy and should please both styles of togs.
Come on Fujifilm let’s get the XT100 rear screen fitted to your future cameras please !
Interesting point, thanks for sharing.
The amount of light is f1, not f1.5.
Correct - f/1light is always f/1 light. What I spoke about in the video is full frame equivalence ... not in any controversion to "light amount is light amount" :)
Danke.
I am sick to death of camera companies putting the side hinged flippy, flappy take forever rear screen on cameras. So the X-T5 for me.
There is no such thing like a "crop sensor" nothing is cropped its just a smaller sensor. If you call apsc crop because it is smaller than a 35mm you have to call a 35 a crop sensor too as it is smaller than a medium format sensor
Thanks for your comment. You likely know that the crop factor of a sensor always compares the size of that considered sensor to the full frame sensor size, not to the larger medium formats although they are superior. Means, if you calculate the crop factor of a sensor smaller than full frame you get a crop factor greater than 1, say, 1.5 or 1.6 for the most common APSC-sensors. If in contrast you calculate the crop factor of a sensor larger than full frame you get a crop factor smaller than 1, say, 0.79 for Fuji GFX and Hasselblad-X. Means the full frame sensor size always sits in the numerator of the crop factor because a crop factor always relates any other sensor size to full frame size. So you would never call a full frame sensor a "cropped sensor" just because its size is smaller than the even more superior medium format. Medium format is not the benchmark when calculating crop factors, full frame is the benchmark for crop factors. This notion goes back to the 35mm film format to use full frame as benchmark for calculating crop factors. Thinking this to the end, a full frame sensor is not a "crop sensor" because its THE benchmark and the crop factor of full frame is 1. An APSC-sensor is a "crop sensor" because the sensor area is smaller, "cropped in" compared to the sensor size of a full frame sensor. That's why not only from me but from many others you hear that notion "crop sensor" from time to time. Hope that helps :)
Most people don't buy fuji camera for the big grip, it's for the classic look.. big grip makes the camera look ugly
I agree with that, good point.
Boy that 50mm makes for conspicuous street photography lol
:)
I thought this was an XT5 vs XH2 video... but I all hear about are lenses...
My only comment is why you would buy into Fuji APSc when there seems to many superior choices in FF with access to better lenses for same money, size weight bulk. There’s no argument for APSc anymore. And with Hasselblad X2D the line is blurring at the other end of FF with MF.
The argument is the X-H2S, which gives you stacked sensor performance for less than half the price of full frame.
No full frame camera within the X-H2S price range competes with it when it comes to video features.
Not all FF system lenses are similarly priced. Check out the cost of Canon or Nikon 100-400 zoom and compare that to the Fuji price. There’s a huge difference in price and they are all similar quality.
I just replied in two comments that a combo of the X-H2S and GFX100s might be the ultimate solution. The X-H2S is super fast for sports & action and the GFX100s brings the fine art resolution and medium format look. Menu systems are compatible, batteries are compatible and the handling is also very similar. So I believe that photographers who go for such a combo have good arguments on their side :)
With Topaz AI APS-C can become your FF alternative.
@@louis5352 I played a bit with Topaz AI some weeks back, amazing results!
F1.0 is F1.0 in terms of light transmission. (Sigh)
Correct :) But I spoke about "full frame EQUIVALENCE" which relates focal length and aperture to sensor size whereas you speak about the lens standalone without reference to any sensor size. Means: the Field of View and Depth of Field of this 50mm f/1.0 lens on an APS-C sensor is equivalent to the Field of View and Depth of Field of a 75mm f/1.5 lens on a full frame sensor. That's what a crop factor of 1.5 means. A good way to see why both of our statements are correct is to read some educational material on DPREVIEW on basics of photography: www.dpreview.com/articles/2666934640/what-is-equivalence-and-why-should-i-care
@@mathphotographer I never liked the "equivalence" comparisons as it confuses many photographers especially newbies. A 1.0 lens is a 1.0 lens, a 50mm lens is a 50mm lens - the lens spits out the same image whether it's mounted on a FF body (if Fuji made one, or if it was adapted to a FF body of another brand) and an APS-C body. ** of course sensor coverage might be an issue by design for an APSC designed lens.
You are incorrect to apply crop factor to aperture, or to say that depth of field is drpendent on sensor size. It is not.
Take a pictire with a lens mounted on a tripod with a FF camera, then exchange the body with an APS body without changing position and with identical exposure settings.
How will the images differ? The APS will be smaller, but otherwise just like the center of the full-frame image. The depth of field and bokeh in the images will be identical.
It is a common mistake to think that sensor size effects these things, it does not.
thank you very much for your video and this is indeed a great camera. But this camera makes no sense, I'm sorry. This is a crop sensor camera, this is above several much better full frame cameras in the market today, it just makes no sense. and the same goes for some of Fujifilm's better lenses that are just about as expensive (or some even more) and just about as big as full frame counter parts, again, this makes no sense. Crop sensor cameras used to have their place in the market as a smaller, more compact and affordable alternative to full frame. In the meantime, full frame cameras have become much more affordable and dramatically smaller, while crop sensor offerings have jumped into the high-end full frame arena both in price and size, all of which is nonsense.
xt-5 is a great camera for the enthusiast
but it's not a "pro" camera
the x-h2 is just a pumped-up xt-5 and is an overbuilt aps-c camera which takes fine photos but can't claim any greater pro status
Many well established pro photographers may beg to differ.
I actually think there are a number of pro photographers who work with these two cameras :) They would likely respectfully disagree to not be seen as pros :)
Great review. Forget the big lenses-am I the only person who uses on-camera flash? For serious work, the XT5 is a non-starter with no grip. XH2 selfie screen is unappealing, as is the redundant top display-make it a shutter-ISO combo dial and we’d almost be there-oh ya, I want clickable dials and a battery charger in my $2,000 box. I don’t care if that somehow makes it less “weather resistant”-I don’t intentionally seek crap weather and if I did I’d have my camera wrapped in plastic raincoat! Sheesh Fuji - why does the XH2 exist? The XT is the better “photographers” camera and it deserved the pro treatment. Maybe next time.