Flight of the Old Rhinebeck Aerodrome's Spirit of St. Louis, May 21, 2016
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- The first public flight of Old Rhinebeck Aerodrome's Spirit of St. Louis, May 21, 2016 at the "Spirit of the Aerodrome Gala." The plane flew once before, but with a less historically accurate rudder. This is a 100% accurate reproduction, including 3 instruments donated by the Smithsonian Institution Air & Space Museum in Washington, D.C. that are identical to those in the original Spirit of St. Louis (i.e. same manufacturer and model number).
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My dad was a mechanic at Robertson Aircraft during the 1920's and he remembers knowing Charles Lindbergh when he was still an air mail pilot. He knew Lindbergh as "Slim". I'm 82 years old now, but I still remember dad telling me stories of him eating lunch with Slim a few times at a diner that was near Robertson Aircraft.
It's a shame that once he crossed the Atlantic he dropped all his connections and friends from both the Air Mail and Army and traded up, hob-nobbing with the wealthy elite, gaining lucrative stock options with Pan Am and Transworld Airlines, marrying into the Morrow family and eventually becoming a disciple of Dr. Alex Carrel. Did your Dad ever talk about Lindbergh's social climbing?
My great grand father was his #1 aviation engineer hand built 7 engines for his world records
@@altbobYes, and I greatly admired his flight and book. I am sorry he was a sucker (or real bigot fascist lover) with American first traitors and isolationists. He never understood history at all.
My dad was a WW2 ATC pilot and worked for Pan AM and met him once. I still regard Lindbergh as one of the greatest pilots of all time, and his feat and aircraft great as well. It is really an example of a fascinating, brilliant, and partly flawed man. If you weren't against German fascism you didn't know anything.
@@daytonstokes6900 wow...he rebuilt the Wright Cyclone before the NY to Paris flight. Great mechanic work!
Very nice Bob, thank you for sharing. It is a pleasure to hear period music providing perfect bookends to the Wright music.
Besides increasing pilot visibility, there is another reason for side slipping during landing. The runway at Old Rhinebeck is just 2200 feet long and surrounded with trees, requiring a bit more from the pilot than a more open airport with longer runways.
Side slipping greatly increases drag, thus allowing a steeper approach without building excess speed. Coming straight in, and diving down over the trees to the runway, gives a faster airspeed just as the pilot needs to be slowing down, and stretches out the landing quite a bit. This then puts the touchdown point well past the audience, and, more importantly, gives much less runway in which to slow down.
Such an approach is quite common when operating from short or obstructed fields, especially so with an aircraft as aerodynamically clean as the NYP. The biplanes typically flown from Old Rhinebeck have quite a bit more drag, and, were it not for the need to increase visibility, would have less need to slip into this field.
Finally, it has been reported that the small fin and rudder were part of Lindbergh's plan to survive the flight. His feeling was that having some directional instability would increase his focus on flying, and help keep him awake for the 33 plus hours to Paris.
Absolutely right about the side-slip drag and ORA's runway - it's a heaven for the last of the "barnstormer" pilots!
Also, an interesting point about Lindbergh's under-engineered fin and rudder deliberately done that way to help him stay awake. I remember reading that somewhere as well and I have no doubt that it's true.
Beautiful bird with sweet music. Thanks for posting this.
The music is played by the band that my wife and I hired for our wedding (that's us dancing in the last photo of this video)!
December 1903 - April 2020....just over a 116 years from 120' in 12 seconds. Just unfathomable the advancement. What a wonderful airplane.
Fantastic landing. Its not like he had a lot of airtime on that bird and that's not the easiest approach either. Great to see her flying.
What a great great replica an awesome plane what more can be said!!!😁😊😄😀😋😂
An incredible time machine. the sound. So much wing area to lift the weight of the fuel... lightly loaded it must simply float.
Indeed it does!
Wow it's like IFR conditions nearly all the time while the aeroplane is up flying... although it's VFR.
Even more impressive when you see how basic the instruments were.
That little radial sounds bad-ass!
man alive that's how you crab and slip in a plane with no windscreen or forward vision whatsoever....i wonder if Lindy did that very maneuver at Le Bourget? looked like to me the old WW2 Vought Corsair carrier landing trick that came much later amplified a lot... even a BUFF driver with his crosswind-click landing-gear system would be prideful of this sideslip.
Easier without a windshield, now you can see
@@joepiet....yep.
Sure beautiful! I would love to see it
Beutiful video of the most. importat plane in aviation history. Thanks
Wonder how much gas and how stored for over 33 hrs ? Cessna 152 i fly goes 2hrs. 🤔
Charles would be proud.
What a crab on that landing! Cheers
Here is the link to my follow-up video from this year's (2017) 2nd annual "Spirit of the Aerodrome Gala", honoring the Curtiss Jenny and other Glenn Curtiss machines at the Old Rhinebeck Aerodrome, here in upstate NY -
ruclips.net/video/ogUFNNSVYyg/видео.html
Nice 👍🏼 Replica
Which way to Ireland.
Hi what is the music? I really like it. Thanks.
m.ruclips.net/video/HxQ1fLL_mdw/видео.html
It's an old tune called "I'll see you in my dreams" played by a band I hired.
is that the real plane ?
The actual Spirit of St. Louis is on display in Washington DC at the Smithsonian Air & Space museum. This is teh most accurate flying replica, made from the original plans and modified based on measurements taken from the actual plane, which the ORA crew was given special access to. It even has 3 original period gauges of the exact make and model as those on the real Ryan Spirit.
altbob ok thks
Esse avião era de Charles A. Lindberg
Cut it Slim!
Не могу понять!!! Как пилот смотрел вперед?!
Немцы посмотрели и придумали Storch)
How does the pilot see out
Mostly by flying in a slew and looking out the side windows. Lindbergh had a periscope too, as does this replica, but it wasn't much use, other than to keep a watch for sailboats while low over the water to avoid hitting their masts.
Somehow I expected to see Jimmy Stewart step out of the cockpit. :) A few years ago, a friend told me that his grandfather was a sailor on the U.S. Navy ship that brought the Spirit of St. Louis and Lindbergh back to America. Lindbergh had told the Captain that if they came across any icebergs, he wanted to be notified at any hour or the day, as he had never seen an iceberg. At about 1 a.m., and iceberg was spotted, and my friend's grandfather, then a low-ranking officer, was sent to wake Lindbergh up and bring him to the upper deck. Lindbergh got to see his iceberg.
What a beautiful replica! Sounds great, too; I always did like the engine turning finish on the cowling, and have admired Charles Lindbergh for years. The sound of the engine would have put me to sleep in a few hours; how he stayed awake over 33 hrs. was amazing.
Our admiration for Lindbergh should always be tempered with the awareness that an innocent man was unjustly executed for the kidnapping and alleged murder of his son. Lindbergh's actions were to say the least, highly suspicious, and anything is possible in regard to what really happened. The one thing which is absolutely certain is that Richard Hauptmann was innocent.
Sorry for the shaky parts in the video - this was all done without a tripod.
"He convinced the founding fathers of many many cities across the United States of America that building a good airport was crucial to the success of their cities and of aviation." He also advocated for eugenics, but we don't need to get into that today.
True. Lindbergh the aviator accomplished the heroic. Lindbergh the man was a misguided, naïve jerk.
The Spirit of St. Louis had no brakes, no electrics, no heated pitot, no cabin heat and no flaps. The original Ryan NYP had a periscope to aid in forward vision. The periscope was Lindbergh's idea. The periscope was retracted during certain phases of flight to reduce drag. It was kinda useless during the landing flare though..side-slip landings were routine.
What a great pilot. That is a scary field to land at with a plane you cant see out of! Yikes. Great video quality and authentic music.
Thank you! The music was the band that played at my wedding ;) I appreciate the comment about my video - I work hard at these and my editing skills are all self-taught. Please consider subscribing to my channel and checking out my other aviation videos. The pilot, Ken Cassens, is in his 70's!
Gotta skid to get a visual on the landing... Good pilot!
I would add a camera underneath and a tablet as a monitor, would make landing and takeoff much easier.
I’ve flown into this field as a rides passenger and landing there in this plane takes seriously high level stick and rudder ability and a lot of familiarity with the field.
oldschoolman 144 Kind of takes the point of recreating the original flight away though...
The thought of flying this for 33 hours solid...
....or flying a crate of parts like the JN-4 Jenny across the Grand Canyon in a snowstorm with your head in the wind , no instruments to speak of, save a compass - as airmail pilots like Lindbergh did - Ridiculously, Congress was assured that the mail WAS being flown regardless of weather conditions or risk to the pilots- Truth.
Brings back memories of my dad in the 60s an70s in a 1946 Luscomb all the grass fields im 71 now ,close my eyes and make believe I'm in daddy's plane, love flying🤗
Well, since my name is Cole Parker, I just had to watch the entire video. But seriously Lindberghs flight rates right up there with the Moon landing and the Plane is equal to the Apollo II moon capsule
It was never a plane to fly for "fun", it's purpose was to get CAL to Paris safely. I noted the side slip to land,,, as it is a hard process if you cant see to land. Most exciting to watch the re-enactment with such a beautiful replica!!!!
His flight was merely a stunt. He wasn't the first to prove the Atlantic crossing, only the first solo. No one should suggest that single engine solo was a sign of future development.
Shame Lindberg was a fan of Hitler
@@stevek8829 I disagree it was a stunt. Although the US Navy, flew three Curtis flying boats that crossed the Atlantic, in 1919 they took off in from Newfoundland and then landed in the AZORES, Lisbon and finally London to refuel and take on provisions. What Lindbergh did was to fly a Land based plane NON STOP across the Atlantic. Therefore, I go back to my analogy, the first flights were analogous to the Mercury and Gemini and Russian missions, while Lindbergh's flight was Apollo
@@stevek8829 No a single engine plane was not the future, but it was the first to prove that a non stop flight could be made by a land base plane, not dependent on a water landing.
Clearly the most authentic reproduction of this iconic airplane in existence! Much thanks to ORA for building and flying it for the public to see!
As I understand it those from the Aerodrome were allowed to take precise measurements an take closeup photos of the aircraft at the Smithsonian
Ther last time I was at the Aerodrome they had the engine etc installed but not the wings .
Because the airplane ride lines were so long after the show... I asked Bill Gordon, if 5 of us came up during the week on our Harleys? He said sure... to just call his home... WHO DOES THAT? R.I.P. Bill
Very nice video... fitting that Lindy's historic flight started in New York and this recreation is located at the Old Rhinebeck Aerodrome in Red Hook, NY. The Aerodrome is a living museum of period aircraft and simpler times......
NJ, no ?
@@vanillagorilla8236 The Old Rhinebeck Aerodrome is on the border between Rhinebeck and Red Hook, NY. It has a Red Hook mailing address.
You couldn't get a modern pilot to take that crate out for a $100 hamburger, let alone cross the Atlantic with it.
LOL!
Excellent Video Bob!! I truly enjoyed watching it!! Wish I could go for a flight in one of those planes!! WOW!! What a thrill that would be sir!!! =)
I'm glad theses people made this aircraft! It shown us we have come a long way ,
It is amazing he made it that far with that big radial hanging out in the air not to mention the extra long wing braces, the enormous landing gear all adding massive drag, and then that low aspect ratio wing, he really had guts.
And don’t forget that Lindbergh did aerobatics and gave rides in it!
Great replica, great video. One day I hope to get out to Old Rhinebeck. In the meantime, thanks for posting!
Nothing like a runway surrounded by trees to make life interesting.
Landing at ORA in Rhinebeck takes some nerve. Barnstormers only!
What a BIG WING She has... and that engine sounds in Top Form for sure... What a Machine!
Who is the ORA pilot flying ? Many people do not know that the Spirit was an experimental built airplane hence the "X" in the plane number that crossed the Atlantic ocean.
The pilot is Ken Cassens
Nice video work Bob. So nice to see that magnificent flying machine fly after all these years. Oh, and I agree great choice of music.
Great looking replica and a awesome video, but if I may ask, the only thing you are missing on the plane are those flags under the Spirit of St Louis on the front cowling of the plane by the propeller that showed where all of the locations that the Spirit of St Louis visited before it was permently retired, right?????
I believe those flag decals were put on after the plane went on national tour. The Old Rhinebeck Aerodrome replica is made to look like the airplane circa its trans Atlantic flight.
Nice Video, It's good to see it in the air after watching the build over the last few years.
Just think!
December of 1903, the Wright brothers first flew.
But then! May of 1927, and young Charles, then only about 24 or so, flew the vast Atlantic ocean in 33 and a half hours?
Charlie wasn't even born when Orville and Wilber first flew.
The whole undertaking is just AMAZING!
No ...first flight...CLEMENT ADER
Great to see this plane fly! My wife and I visited Rhinebeck years ago (2012) and were given the opportunity to see the plane in the hangar still under construction. Quite an achievement!
Great airplane. Great video, thanks for sharing.
You're welcome! All these years later the video still brings a smile to my face when I see it.
That is definitely the best looking NYP replica I have ever seen fly!
Can't imagine flying with out seeing the horizon ahead, I presume that there was some sort of artificial horizon ?
Actually no. There was a ball-in-a-tube level so Lindbergh could tell if he was flying straight and level, and there was a periscope so he could see straight ahead, but to really get oriented for a landing the procedure was (is) to slew the plane and look out the side doors. It takes a really good pilot!
altbob
The "ball in a tube" will only tell the pilot if a turn is coordinated. It is never used to see if the plane is level.
@@mikenottis6252 Well, that's what he had. No high tech stuff then. I man had to have guts.
Without it's full load that craft naturally seems to want to float on air.
Indeed, it appears this way. The design is very efficient and the wing generates a lot of lift!
Just majestic. Beautiful!!!!
Actually there was a flying replica made for the 1957 movie with Jimmy Stewart. When I was in the Marine Corps stationed in San Diego we would see it flying over the recruit Depot between 1967-70.
I would love to visit ORA one day. Have heard about it for years. You can still find copies of Charles Lindbergh's 1927 book, "We" at a reasonable price. He was like a rock star in his day...they made a lot of copies.
Like flying with a hood forward vision block
These are really video captures of the plane, and deserves more thumbs up, so I added mine. I found it as I was surfing Old Rhinebeck Aerodrome videos. I haven't been there in 34 years, and only just found an old VHS tape I shot in 1983. As a aside, don't ya just love it when everybody decides to walk right in front of your shot?
Yeah, unfortunately I was a visitor and not official press for the event, so I had to do the best I could finding a an unobstructed camera angle. Glad you enjoyed the video! This coming summer ORA will have another Gala, this time to commemorate the restoration of the Curtis Jenny, which will be flying again in the 2017 season.
I will have find out the date. This year I want to return. Of course today's video equipment is a whole lot sharper and more compact. I just have to drive up from L.I. early enough. This past summer I was taking a tour of Buffalo, NY and the guide pointed out the factory where all the Jennys were originally built.
May 20, 2017 is the 2nd Annual Spirit Gala and Fundraiser.
Here is the video from the 2nd annual Old Rhinebeck Aerodrome gala -
ruclips.net/video/ogUFNNSVYyg/видео.html
What I could never make out , is why Lindbergh didn't have undercarriage he could reject on take off . So he could save weight and drag.
I don't think he felt it necessary to risk a belly landing in Paris.
Barely 23 years after the Wright Brothers first flight!
It is really very astonishing!
I knew Ken, who headed the building of this from back when we used to fly out of Newton , NJ. I had a plane there, and I think, he flew for the state firefighters. He told how he went to the Smithsonian to measure. I still have his business Card.
Great Work, good job! What a man Charles was, flying across the atlantic ocean in 1926 WOW !!!
Who made the J5 Whirlwind? Regards from germany :-)
Wright Aeronautical Corporation. It's an original, restored right here at the Old Rhinebeck Aerodrome!
@@altbob Terrific, thanks a lot!
It took many years for this dream of building and flying a replica Spirit of St. Louis to come to fruitition. Fantastic.
Yeah, tremendous dedication. This was a labor of love. Some of us who live close to the aerodrome were lucky enough to see it go together, rib by rib, stringer by stringer, over about 10 years. The last 4 or so were particularly productive!
Actually there was a flying replica made for the 1957 movie with Jimmy Stewart. When I was in the Marine Corps stationed in San Diego we would see it flying over the recruit Depot between 1967-79.
Amazing just how similar those old radials sound to a helicopter when the sound reverberates.
A much quicker takeoff without a full load of fuel!
For sure, and it can fly very slowly with such light wing loading too.
She seemed so much bigger as a child 😎
Great flying....considering he was looking through a periscope...Like Lindburg did for 33.5 hours.
Belle réplique du Spirit of Saint-Louis! La nostalgie du passé aéronautique c' est un plaisir à voir!!!
de rien
Beautiful music!! for one copy of the important plane in the history of commercial aviation.GREAT!
Thank you, the music is friends of mine playing and was recorded just for this video :)
Flying all night starring at a turn and bank tube ? I think i'd crash 🇺🇸
Cant imagine why one would want to fly a plane you can't even see out of the front window nope too much anxiety for me lol
A local gem in the Hudson Valley, New York.
This is excellent! Thank you very much!
In 1977 a copy of the Spirit came to St. Paul, MN for an anniversary celebration. There was even an actor who portrayed Lindbergh who told the story of the Transatlantic flight. My late father was from Little Falls, MN. He told me about the day Lindbergh came home - in a plane that circled around town for a while. Suggested viewing: Spirit of St. Louis movie starring Jimmy Stewart.
One of a kind aircraft to put it mildly. Wearing goggles you had to stick your head out the side window to see where you're going
Magnificent!!!
It boggles the mind that this little bird made it across the Atlantic.
The original is at the Smithsonian right?
That's correct, and the Old Rhinebeck Aerodrome got unprecedented access to the actual plane at the Smithsonian to take measurements and the Smithsonian Institution Air & Space Museum in Washington, D.C.donated 3 vintage instruments to the control panel of the ORA N-X-211 Spirit, identical to those in the original Spirit of St. Louis (i.e. same manufacturer and model number).
Man, I always wondered how one landed this plane with the non-existant forward vision. The video seems to show that the pilot just sort of side slips the craft before finalizing the line-up with the runway and then puts her down. I undertsand that the original Spirit of St. Louis had a periscope off to the left side to aid the pilot (well, anyway my Flight Simulator 2004 program has that on the Spirit of St. Louis model simulation). Wonder if this replica also has that and, if it does, just how useful it is. Oh, and by the way, the name of the song being played by the Gypsy Jazz Quartet is "I'll See You in My Dreams".
On the left side of the cockpit was a sideways mounted periscope . This was able to be retracted when not in use but was essential for takeoffs and landings.
How do you land in heavy fog or at night? Instruments.
Land in a sideways slip or in a turn if you have the space. Like the guys who flew corsairs.
The weirder design choice to me is not putting the fuel tank in front of the pilot, but rather why they went with fixed landing gear with so many braces, or why he even went with a non-sea plane to begin with since most of the flight was over the water. It seems to me that he could have gained a huge amount of fuel efficiency by designing a plane that didn't use so many struts and was a smooth seaplane body or perhaps even use a wheel system that he could eject on takeoff and then just land on a deployable skid at the destination. After all, when he lands the plane would be very lightweight, so the skid wouldn't have to be super strong without all the weight of the fuel.
Su avión sigue volando igual que en su épico vuelo, que maravilla! gracias por los vídeos! ya son parte de la historia de Charles! 😊😊
Outstanding!
Is this the one used in the Jimmy Stewart Movie ? Anybody ?
No, this one is far more recent and more accurate.
@@altbob ok, thanks for the info.
Great flick. The man pulling the prop better learn the correct way to do it or he may lose some fingers. It looked good but first rule is NEVER HOOK YOUR FINGERS OVER THE PROP. If the motor kicks back, you will lose them. I was propping planes when I was sixteen.
Amazing, wonderful extraordinary beautiful! Thanks for posting this great video!
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Who built the replica? The aerodrome? Is it considered to be a Ryan?
It was started by Aerodrome founder Cole Palen, but the majority of the work was done by Ken Cassens, who flies it.
@@altbob It must have been a long-term project- I recall meeting Palen in about 1980 and knew he died in the early 90s. But my question is, is it a replica or a continuation of the Ryan NYP? I recall reading about a man who built a Boeing F4 B4 and Boeing sent reps to examine it and they said it was one of theirs and gave it a proper serial number.
@@lawrencelewis8105 I think you've answered your own question there, as the Ryan Aircraft company hasn't been around for a long time (became part of Teledyne in 1969, and of Northrop Grumman when the latter company purchased Teledyne in 1999).
Amazing how those skinny little tires could handle 5000 #...!!!
How the hell did they see where they where going?
Flew across the Atlantic by compass. Only need to see ahead for landing, and for that he put the plane into a slip.
I love being able to see the plane, but you're not going to be traveling over the Atlantic with it. Why do you have a giant gas tank in front of the pilot? I would think adding a front windshield would be a great safety update and not take away from the experience of viewing the plane in flight!
Take it up with Mr. Lindbergh, lol. The Rhinebeck Aerodrome's goal (achieved) was to build the most authentic Ryan N-X-211 possible, and fly it the way the original was flown.
ever since i was reading an article in a magazine in the 60's about this place i have wanted too go but as of yet i haven't gone
Looks like it might need constant hands on control as I don't see any dihedral in the wings.
Correct, there was no dihedral. Lindbergh made it deliberately unstable with the aim of helping him to stay awake for the duration of the flight. If he fell asleep for even a few seconds he'd likely be lost at best, or crash into the sea.
Nice cross-wind approach!
And great music accompanying your video.
The approach is like that not because of the wind (there was hardly any that day) but because there is no forward visibility on the Ryan NYP. Like Lindbergh, the pilot has to slew the plane sideways to look out the side window to line the plane up with the runway, then straighten out just before touching down.
Also being familiar with the layout at Rhinebeck, he is also wanted loose attitude fast on landing, after coming over the trees (without dropping the nose) and crabing is the way to do it.
It comes in in a bit faster than most of the vintage aircraft that fly there.
Great sound!!!!!!! Thanks for this!!!
You're welcome!
Bravo!
Por primera vez veo el espíritu de San Luis
That sound - I was lucky to hear and see Pierre Holländer's Spirit replica flying over my parent's house on May 21. 2002, the 75. aniversary of the NY to Paris flight!
I don't know where he had been or what he had been doing, but he passed Denmark in it several times, untill he was killed in it when a bad weld broke, in Coventry in 2003.
Sad about the crash. We should never take for granted the risks pilots have taken to advance aviation.
altbob No, or in this case, show people what the Spirit of St Louis looked and sounded like.
Where and when was this?
What a beautiful sight an love the note of her Engine Thank you for sharing (:
Thank you!
Viendo este video, me da a pensar en que a lo largo de la historia, los americanos (EEUU) que facilidad tenian a endiosar a un tipo por que logro tal o cual hazaña.!! En ek caso de Lindeberth, fue un tipo que se jugo sus huesos en largarse a esa aventura, la
cual le salio bien (por supuesto) pero eso no lo hace un genio del pensamiento mundial ni un fenomeno de la vreacion.!! Logro algo no logrado de ahi en mas.!! Pero este tipo que bien podria ser Jhon el granjero, no tenia la puta idea de lo que eran cuestiones politicas ni de temas de politica mundial.!! Sin embargi resulto ser un gran simpatizante de los NAZIS , abogo por elloos y yo quisiera saber que paso con el despues quemiles y miles de sus compatriotas muerieran por una causa desastroza al cual el presto su fama a su servuicio.!! Si hubieron payasos hirtoricos como Mossolini, y los altos generales Franceces, etc. Este tipo fue uno de los que deberia ser recordado como el bicharraco mas servil y odioso de esa epoca como Henry Ford.!! Hipocritas hijos de puta que apoyaron a un regimen de espanto y horror a nivel mundial.!! Como es que los americanos le siguen rindiendo honores a tal lacra de persona.???!!!