Indiana Jones and the Damsel of Disdain Ever since Kennedy said "the audience will have to adapt" to her movies... That was the last nail in the coffin for me. The narcissism... just, wow! When the studio head forgets the movies are made for the audience's pleasure, not their own... She has completely lost touch with reality. Thanks for the review!
I think fans are upset with KK because of strong female characters. Fans need to learn to accept that because in the real world girl boss is a thing so we need to suck it up and enjoy this movie and there's alot of positives but fans seem to have an issue with flea bag bossing Indy around.
@@jonfreeman9682 "Strong female characters" huh? So then why do they always hijack an established, iconic male characters franchise? Why do they ride the coat tails of the franchise that a man built? Why do they always need to portray the man as weak, for the woman to look strong? If she was a "strong female character", she would have her own franchise, built by other strong women, and truly wouldn't need no (broken) man, to make her look strong. I don't know what "real world" you live in, but that isn't the world REAL MEN live in. And I don't enjoy sexist movies, starring Mary-Sue females. I'll save my money for MI Dead Reckoning... Where the "strong female characters" are very attractive, especially while shooting a .50 cal. Take my money! Men and women can be strong. Equality... what a concept.
KK is a malignant narcissist, she's controlling, exploitative, manipulative, and doesn't have any remorse to what she did. Instead she keeps doubling down. She literally self-inserted in Indy 5 as an obnoxious insufferable and moral-less woman thinking that's good.
@@jonfreeman9682 I'd love a strong well written female character. There's not nearly enough of them going around, *especially* in modern cinema. Shame KK isn't adding any to the list.
This movie was a super hard pass for me since the trailers. Even if Indy´s adventures end on a low note, we can always find solace in watching the Original Trilogy.
@@jonfreeman9682 I put more stock in the box office performance than RT. I'm a lifelong fan of the franchise and it looks bad to me. Early reviews were bad, most critical reviews I've seen are bad.
Disney must have unlimited money because they already greenlit the script for "Indiana Jones 6: The Rectal Thermometer of Chaos" starring Harrison Ford's ashes, Phoebe Waller-Bridge and some Minions.
What an evil woman! This is the kind of woman Hollywood admires? I just love your clarity of mind! Well done. You are truly worth listening to and hope your subscriber list grows and grows.
There was one part where Indy, Fleabag Waller-Bridge and Antonio Bandaras was caught by the Nazis in a ship. Fleabag engineers an escape (as usual), Indy wrings his hands and Antonio Bandaras got shot and killed. As they are escaping, Indy was shocked silent by his old friend dying. As Fleabag Waller-Bridge was giggling at her ingenuity, Indy said horrified, "My friend just died." Fleabag just shrugs and says "Sorry." Does Kathleen Kennedy truly believe that Fleabag is going to become the next Indiana Jones? That character is barely human!
No she doesn't believe that... because that's obviously not going to happen. That scene has depressing music and stuff because she's clearly supposed to be in the wrong for giggling and Indy in the right.
That's the plan. Flea bag will be the new Indy to carry the franchise forward just like Rey is the new Skywalker. In an interview KK says she plans to introduce more strong female characters including a reboot of Han Solo called Hanna Solo and new Star Wars shows with girl power. As long as they for good stories to tell then fans will come back.
@@PhazonEnder It means if you tell fresh new exciting stories fans will flock to the cinemas. Take a look at Barbie. It is the ultimate super woke super feminist super girl power super agenda movie but it's a smash hit box office and made more money than mission impossible and even Mario Bros in the opening weekend and is second highest opening after Avengers. Good stories sell tickets and put butts in seats.
It's like the old saying that goes: "If it looks like a duck, and it quacks like a duck, then it's a duck." You've done quite enough research on this film to know in your gut that it would be bad. That being said, I salute you for being willing to endure this nonsense. Thanks for the video!
Had to laugh - "Speaking of garbage. . ." Great summary, thank you. I just checked the local AMC advanced sale page. As of 8 PM, the the 8:40 show has 3 reserved ticket sales. Great seats, center middle of the theater, but still 3 seats with one couple and a single. This is worse than horrible, and on Saturday night too. The good news is that the Adult tickets are only $17.99. They were going for $23.99 yesterday. Can they be discounting the tickets already?
The story execs wanted to give Helena some flaws... Fair enough, but leaving Indy to die just to make a few bucks is not something any character can come back from. Come on KK. Are you insane? Why elevate a bully. Indiana Jones is a flawed character but his heart was always in the right place.
Just saw the movie and I'm still perplexed by what's shown, that's no end for an Indiana Jones. Indi drives so many vehicles (and animals) like it's a Mission Impossible. The director doesn't seem to have understood Indiana Jones. And what's with this female sidekick who has a sidekick? Disturbing 🤨 What was the Ford thinking? Apparently, actors really don't care about reputation as long as the money is right.
Disney execs should be mentally ill to keep KK in charge, in fact she should have booted hard for what she was doing in Star Wars, and heck I am not even a super fan of the franchise, and I saw the original trilogy just a few years ago thinking it was just okay.
As an 80's kid who was forever changed by that first whip-crack in the theater, I'm so saddened by what they've done. And I'm desperately trying to reconcile why most critics hated it, while viewer scores on RT are currently floating around the 90% mark. Are they all fake reviews? Do audiences simply not care? Is it a generational thing, where younger viewers don't have the memories of the past to compare it to like I do? It's all just so frustrating and disheartening.
I’ve never seen the original trilogy but man what they did here is clear as water, this movie wants to tarnish Indiana at every step to give his goddaughter the attention, everyone that has seen the movie and has 2 brain cells can notice it isn’t a generation issue
I think the only people who saw it r disney fan boys. Most people who can see the writing on the wall just didn't bother to watch it. Hopefully will go down over time because yeah I agree it doesn't make much sense I mean the movie must be terrible (I will never watch it crystal skulls was more than enough garbage for me to take)
The Woman King has a 99% score on RT - better than the Godfather and all the original Indy and Star Wars movies, better than anything Speilberg or HItchcock ever did. It's meaningless. A lot of movies made in the last decade have absurdly high reviews. Even crystal skulls rating is highter than Temple of Doom.
It was weird weird casting and I think it was effecting the movie profits well before it came out, just because the previews focused so heavily on her. Now most people probably have no clue who she is, so when they see the trailer they're left with no idea what the movie is abvout other than the idea that the movie is about a sad old Indy and the other main character is a middle aged plain looking English woman without sex appeal. What audience did they think she would add? She has no name value as a movie star so she isn't bringing in a general and female audience, she has no sex appeal so she isn't bringing in a male audience (and in the first 3 films the women though good characters, were used in marketing as sex symbols in the same way the Bond girls were for Bond). She doesnt work from a marketing POV as a side character - and if anyone at Lucasfilm really thought a middle aged, plain looking British woman, who doesnt look like she could beat up my little sister - was truly going to be the next big action star and actually carry a solo action movie in the Indiana Jones franchise after Harrisson they were insane.
The original Raiders of the Lost Ark only cost 20 million before marketing costs. Dial of Dysentery supposedly costs 300 million or more before marketing. If this movie flops as big as has been claimed, it's going to be historic.
5:15 The cartoons I watched as a kid when they were doing chases, they make the heroes lose the villains by their craftiness and ingenuity, until in the final act the villains appeared out of nowhere for suspense, simple but effective, but they weren't able to do that, as you said the sheer level of incompetence from the writers is outstanding.
It is easy to see that Proboscis Waller-Bridge is a Kennedy self insert, she will do anything to further her goals at the utter devastation of everything around her. Ford should be held accountable too. He knew what happens to legacy characters at Lucasfilm but he went back for another round of girl bossing. Who knew Indy was into pegging.
How do Kennedy's Lucasfilm movies manage to be worse than what we thought possible. Growing up, I thought surely there could be nothing worse than the prequel trilogy. Then we all know what happened there. Then I was like... "Surely there can't be any thing worse than Crystal Skull.... Right? .......Right?" 🤦 This is truly heartbreaking. All I have to look forward to now is another classic South Park episode describing exactly how I feel after this.
Well said. It blows my mind people don’t see what they are doing with these franchises. It’s not an accident or incompetence. They are deliberately destroying western male heroes. I’m not surprised, it’s all I see anytime I try to watch anything new. So I don’t watch anything new anymore.
Why do all characters that need to return at big screen at their old age have to be sad, miserable and broken? If they really need to show these characters to us, why they are not happy grandpas enjoying lives with their families? It's not like 2020 was the year where the first old male was ever shown on a big screen. We had old actors playing in movies before. Even old actors playing in action movies. Heck, old actors playing in Indiana Jones movies, like his father! I guess that the state of the old, sad, broken exhausted man is just a reflection of the writers and producers.
I knew I would be disappointed and sure I was, but I'm also a guy walking in a desert of creativity, so I came for some droplets of water and I got them, but at the same time creativity hasn't disappeared, is just that Hollywood dried the pond, something or someone needs to happen or come to refill it.
Harrison Ford is not blameless. He has participated in the character assassination of Han Solo, Rick Deckard, and Indiana Jones. All the characters he breathed life into, he has destroyed, and I think he knew he was doing it. I think he's nihilistically trying to destroy his own legacy, maybe because he's tired of being a movie star. Yes, the love of all the plebes gets so tiresome. Screw this guy.
Don't forget Spielberg. He bailed when he realized how bad it would be instead of standing up to Kathleen and making a proper movie. This series is as much his as it is Harrison's and George's and he just ambled off and let KK, Mangold, and Fleabag ruin it.
He’s not a writer and never has been. He genuinely loves Indy and just wanted to do one last one. You honestly think he knows or understands anything about modern diversity politics? He’s trusting the studios to make the best movie possible.
Vince, interesting point. I agree. Many actors/ actresses do movies whose scripts should have been left in the toilet. The Black Widow movie is a good example. But, Johansen did the movie because there was a big paycheck in it for her. Ford did the same thing. His career is in its last chapter (or last paragraph) strictly for the paycheck. He nearly killed himself (2x) flying his planes and sounds a little incoherent in his current interviews. It's all about money and not self respect or respect for the movie crowd. Be well and have a nice day.
Well he is bringing his characters to a close giving them a nice character arc and epic conclusion. Not sure but I think they're trying setup flea bag as the new Indy and will be like Rey. So flea bag will carry the franchise forward and Harrison Ford is hanging up the bullwhip.
I actually felt like Mangold wrote the first 15 minutes of this movie. The first 15 minutes actually felt like an Indiana Jones movie, and then it just went off the rails after that.
What? There are 3 Indiana Jones movies. What are you talking about? I vaguely remember something about aliens and a fridge in a nuclear blast but I thought that was just a bad fan film.
The timeline doesn't quite work either. Indiana Jones was an active man during the outbreak of WWII. Showing him elderly in the 1960's is about 10-20 years too soon. Ironically Harrison Ford now is about the age Indy would have been when Raiders of the Lost Ark hit theaters.
I’m going to see it on discount day. The completist in me has seen all the others in the theater, so I have to see this one too. But I won’t pay full price for it.
I’m skipping this flick. I really liked your comments about the need for fresh independent creators with good stories. I’m trying to do just that but can’t seem to find any open doors. I’ve got so many great stories to tell and I can direct and produce, so I’ll keep looking for a way in. Hopefully you’ll be positively reviewing one of my movies someday soon.
I never needed a fourth or fifth Indiana Jones movie, but I always knew that if they made one, I would have loved seeing Harrison Ford step into Sean Connery's role as the intelligent, experienced ex-adventurer armed with a mental library of unique knowledge, endless contacts in the world's universities, governments and underworlds, and having a fascinating, applicable story for every situation. (Did I ever tell you about the time I found the lost idol of Xochiquetzqal?) being both annoying to but ultimately cherished by whoever they cast as the new young hero. Such a simple dream. I still dream it.
It sounds like every other recent Disney movie and show in the sense that the male hero is there in part to be an Uber driver to take his 'better' female replacement into the next movie/show. It also reminds me of She-Hulk finale in that the female character ends up with the means to re-write reality to her preferences. There's a rumored post-credit scene to 'The Marvels' out where Kamala Khan (Ms. Marvel) talking with Kate Bishop (Hawkeye) about forming a team and mentions Cassie Lange (Antman) as a potential member. So, that's where all this leads I guess, a superhero team with none of those icky men around, hooray! Side note: was the racial epithet 'cracker' really used in the movie, I think by the black female character?
Genuinely a sad & pathetic end to a screen icon. This should have been a triumphant final adventure for Indy. Given the justified criticism towards the Star Wars Rey & Luke thing...why did they go with this script/story?? It makes absolutely no sense....at all !
No, there is 1 more movie to be ruined... AMERICAN GRAFFITI. Lately When I hear commenters say, Well that is it, no more properties to ruin, I get creeped wondering if they will redo that almost perfect movie, and extremely yes perfect soundtrack and double album and amazing album cover.. That I still have with me and my brother's scribbling on it, and where I wrote, "Travis loves Suzanne Somers" under her pic on the album. The imagination reels w the possibility.
The only thing MORE disappointing than this disgraceful, tasteless, failure of a film, is the fact that Kathleen Kennedy isn't fired or hasn't stepped down from her position, though she WILL in due time, which would unironically be a new hope (Star Wars reference Haha) for us fans of these franchises we grew up with!
YES! Great video and critique! It's even more damning that such a talented female reviewer can't stand the awful Hell in a Shawl any more than we cancelled middle-aged dudes can.
I wouldn't have minded if Helena didn't respected Indy if she at least respected his experience and knowledge, but she didn't do it, and the rare instances she does listen to him is because it does directly benefit her, I have seen my fair share of insufferable, bratty and arrogant characters, but this takes the cake and eats it.
LucasFilm urgently, desperately, massively need new management and creators to steer the company in a better direction. They can keep on making films that are just CGI scenes strung together with woke messages to earn BlackRock's ESG points. Or they can make movies that are genuinely entertaining. But the experiment where movie bosses believe they can ignore audiences has to end
I liked the first 20 minutes of the film, if the rest of the film was that good it would be as good as the original 80's films. We went at the 2nd showing at 1pm... only about twelve people in the theater. Almost 50 dollars for two tickets and popcorn and drink. Wow that could be why movies can't sell out anymore. Had twenty minutes of advertising - and even didn't notice the film had started at one point. I think they could re-cut this film about 30 minutes shorter - My theory is Disney pushed the production ahead to get it out this summer. It just needed more editing time, its the hardest part of film production.
The writing of this movie is akin to being ‘crafted’ by video game writers, like the Uncharted series: Bad guys populate at every turn, always know where the protagonist is going, have a steady supply of thugs available and the plot is just as choppy.-and I like Uncharted way more,
She made it her mission to force us to create a new wave of modern Heroes and stories. Its just too easy to revere the genius of old. Thanks to her, we can hardly do that anymore.
*Forget the politics/ideology of Indy/Dial. Just the plot line & scenes alone of ancient Romans treating airplanes as no BFD, & trying to take them down as though they're modern-day teens aiming at police drones, somehow single-handedly to me symbolize what a POS this movie really is. Yea, uh-huh, I know that Indy/Dial is fiction/fantasy. But good fiction doesn't stretch basic history & basic reality (& basic human nature) past the breaking point*
There were parts I enjoyed... mainly the first 20 minutes or so. The ending was rushed and as you said, just ... ended. It was not satidfying nor a fitting ending. I would have been happier if he had just stayed in the past.
Heard an interesting tidbit that it was during hiatus when Ford was recovering from an injury that Fleabag and KK got together to 'improve' the script and this is the result. Insane that they wish to shoehorn PWB into this franchise when she has no power to bring in an audience - any audience. Her biggest success is a niche show popular with a maybe 5% audience share at best. Yet the entertainment industry allows her to work on and damage long established characters like James Bond and Indy Jones to either virtue signal or self insert their idealized version of a 'modern feminist'.
Good grief, you describe a trainwreck. So sad to hear the destruction of an incredible franchise! You have confirmed that this movie is unworthy of my time or money. Thanks!
There are any number of films or even computer games that took their cues from Indiana Jones. Even without the brand recognition some managed to be quite successful. So when Romancing the Stone (1984) came out, most reviewers made comparisons to various Indiana Jones films. When Star Wars was successful, people decided there was an appetite for science fiction and I think that factored into Alien. My point is THEY DIDN'T NEED TO DO THIS. It's probably way more straightforward to make a calculation where a movie is standing purely on its own merit.
Just discovered ur channel and watched the 2 indy videos. Enjoyed the content and effort u put in! Agree with ur thoughts but the mic level needs raised big time? Super quiet even with headphones. Am I the only one?
It may be the consequence of hiring people who never went to acting school... in the old days, you would hear about an actor who always played the heavy as really being a nice guy, or an actor who played a hero as being an asshole in real life, but these days, the actor and his/her character seem to be indistinguishable. And from everything I've heard, this Phoebe Waller-Bridge is just as insufferable as her character(s).
well said! You don’t need to be an obnoxious person to be a feminist, the past 3 Indy’s movies were certainly proofs of that. The woman were equals to Indy and without them Indiana Jones would be small and one dimensional. Men and woman is in harmony when supporting each other rather than competing. The modern feminist don’t seem to understand that.
With this movie and Kathy, I feel like a goose that "likes" to get food stumped down it's throat. "YOUHAVETOLIKEIT, DAMMIT". We have brains and recognise bad things. BTW, would loved to see you walk out the theatre. STATEMENT! You and more people should d this.
This is why I want Disney to continue the franchise with Helena as the next “Indy”. It would be a guaranteed failure and would finally show once and for all how no one wants their new crappy female characters. With Indy 5, they'll probably blame it on the age of Harrison Ford or that the new generation isn’t interested in Indiana Jones.
i really like the idea that the film shows that the ones that are TRULY tired and morally bankrupt are the makers, writers and female "star" of this film. i dont think a bigger disappointment is even possible.
I reluctantly went to see this movie. It was ok. I was Thrilled to see Harrison Ford in character. Phoebe waller bridge was like wet paint. As was the kid. Both were obnoxius and did not exactly bring anything memorable to the film.Both actors have no unique traits. I could think the casting director could have made better choices. Antonio Banderas was a nice surprise . The ending brought a tear to my eye.
The way indy is in this movie is because they let harrison ford have his way he wanted this version of indy they gave him creative freedom he realy likes the grumpy old man stick
When you look at funding related to ESG scores it starts to make sense that loved and established characters are destroyed to meet ESG targets. The head of Blackrock and ESG Larry fink like Kennedy is saying people must be forced to adapt to this new way. Like the bad guys from one of these franchises.
I believe one of the driving forces behind these insulting feminist mantle-swaps simply boils down to a lack of creativity and imagination. The """creatives""" seem to believe they can simply take a popular character, insult, belittle and degrade him and then have some girlboss Mary-Sue step in to be better in every conceivable way, and this will somehow have the effect of transferring the old character's popularity to the new and improved version. Instead, the new character is always poorly received, because people don't like it when their beloved characters are used as stepping stones to foist some new character on them; it's disrespectful to the characters people like and it feels like taking a short-cut. This is such a common and well-understood phenomenon that the Simpsons made fun of it nearly 30 years ago with "Poochie", the skateboarding dog who was supposed to be way cooler than Itchy and Scratchy, the Tom and Jerry standins in the Simpsons universe. The other thing these mantle-swap characters fairly reek of is insecurity and overcompensation. It's never enough for them to stand out in one or two areas, with flaws and weaknesses in others, no, they have to be the best at everything, all the time, and the namesake hero has to be upstaged at every opportunity. It's the way an eight-year-old would try to characterise their Dragon Ball Z OC.
I know that pissing on all things Disney is the current fashion, but I can't get on the hate train over this one. Fanboy politics aside, I actually liked it. It's not perfect, but no movie is. If you want to, you can find fault and pick apart anything, so I guess it comes down to your mood but I could watch it again. (What do I know, I liked David Lynch's "Dune"...)
Yeah l saw this because a friend wanted to. I think the criticism is a bit over the top. Aren’t all these adventure flicks ridiculous plot wise? I wouldn’t necessarily recommend it to anyone but its okay. A bit of harmless fun. I agree with the reviewer, the first 20 minutes was really good but it probably lost a bit after that.
@@solaireofastora6173 Yes, but I did not expect the Indy of his glory days, I was watching a discouraged man in his 80s finding strength for one last adventure. In the end, he found his happy ending.
I can't fathom how MadsMikkelson is considered to be a "great actor" when he always has a "deadpan" expression whether he's villain in Casino Royale or an ally in Clash Of The Titans.
Indiana Jones and the Damsel of Disdain
Ever since Kennedy said "the audience will have to adapt" to her movies... That was the last nail in the coffin for me. The narcissism... just, wow!
When the studio head forgets the movies are made for the audience's pleasure, not their own... She has completely lost touch with reality.
Thanks for the review!
I think fans are upset with KK because of strong female characters. Fans need to learn to accept that because in the real world girl boss is a thing so we need to suck it up and enjoy this movie and there's alot of positives but fans seem to have an issue with flea bag bossing Indy around.
@@jonfreeman9682 "Strong female characters" huh?
So then why do they always hijack an established, iconic male characters franchise?
Why do they ride the coat tails of the franchise that a man built?
Why do they always need to portray the man as weak, for the woman to look strong?
If she was a "strong female character", she would have her own franchise, built by other strong women, and truly wouldn't need no (broken) man, to make her look strong.
I don't know what "real world" you live in, but that isn't the world REAL MEN live in.
And I don't enjoy sexist movies, starring Mary-Sue females. I'll save my money for MI Dead Reckoning... Where the "strong female characters" are very attractive, especially while shooting a .50 cal. Take my money!
Men and women can be strong. Equality... what a concept.
KK is a malignant narcissist, she's controlling, exploitative, manipulative, and doesn't have any remorse to what she did. Instead she keeps doubling down.
She literally self-inserted in Indy 5 as an obnoxious insufferable and moral-less woman thinking that's good.
Unsurprising, but still revolting, someone pass me the barf bag.
@@jonfreeman9682 I'd love a strong well written female character. There's not nearly enough of them going around, *especially* in modern cinema. Shame KK isn't adding any to the list.
There's a strong case to be made that Helena is a bigger villain than Belloch.
This movie was a super hard pass for me since the trailers. Even if Indy´s adventures end on a low note, we can always find solace in watching the Original Trilogy.
Well fans love the movie giving it 89% fresh 🍅 just saying.
@@jonfreeman9682 I put more stock in the box office performance than RT. I'm a lifelong fan of the franchise and it looks bad to me. Early reviews were bad, most critical reviews I've seen are bad.
Rotten Tomatoes is just a shill site that manipulates the data to prop up bad movies. It’s scores are meaningless.
@@jonfreeman9682 even if it had 100%, I don’t dig what I’ve seen so far and won’t waste my time watching this film.
Great review.
Sad to hear Indy 5 is as terrible as we feared it would be. I'll be skipping it.
It's not terrible at all. Ignore the critics. Real fans give it 89% fresh 🍅 so how bad can it be.
@@jonfreeman9682 VERY bad.
@@DarrenMalin not really
@@jonfreeman9682yeah as if somehow scores don’t really reflect the audience but are made to look as if people enjoyed it
I give it a 6/10. (Crystal skull is a 4)
If she had the rights to Jaws & Godfather, we would prob see the Godmother take over & we would know the shark was a female shark .
Disney must have unlimited money because they already greenlit the script for "Indiana Jones 6: The Rectal Thermometer of Chaos" starring Harrison Ford's ashes, Phoebe Waller-Bridge and some Minions.
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Hilarious 😂
Well CGI is so good now they can put Indy's face on another actor. ☝️
What an evil woman! This is the kind of woman Hollywood admires?
I just love your clarity of mind! Well done. You are truly worth listening to and hope your subscriber list grows and grows.
There was one part where Indy, Fleabag Waller-Bridge and Antonio Bandaras was caught by the Nazis in a ship. Fleabag engineers an escape (as usual), Indy wrings his hands and Antonio Bandaras got shot and killed. As they are escaping, Indy was shocked silent by his old friend dying. As Fleabag Waller-Bridge was giggling at her ingenuity, Indy said horrified, "My friend just died." Fleabag just shrugs and says "Sorry."
Does Kathleen Kennedy truly believe that Fleabag is going to become the next Indiana Jones? That character is barely human!
No she doesn't believe that... because that's obviously not going to happen. That scene has depressing music and stuff because she's clearly supposed to be in the wrong for giggling and Indy in the right.
That's the plan. Flea bag will be the new Indy to carry the franchise forward just like Rey is the new Skywalker. In an interview KK says she plans to introduce more strong female characters including a reboot of Han Solo called Hanna Solo and new Star Wars shows with girl power. As long as they for good stories to tell then fans will come back.
@@jonfreeman9682 "As long as they for good stories to tell then fans will come back."
What in the world is that supposed to mean?
@@PhazonEnder It means if you tell fresh new exciting stories fans will flock to the cinemas. Take a look at Barbie. It is the ultimate super woke super feminist super girl power super agenda movie but it's a smash hit box office and made more money than mission impossible and even Mario Bros in the opening weekend and is second highest opening after Avengers. Good stories sell tickets and put butts in seats.
It's like the old saying that goes: "If it looks like a duck, and it quacks like a duck, then it's a duck." You've done quite enough research on this film to know in your gut that it would be bad. That being said, I salute you for being willing to endure this nonsense. Thanks for the video!
In Kathleen Kennedy's defence, I think you attended a sermon expecting a movie.
Defense
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I'm probably gonna regret this but...
DEFINITION FOR DEFENCE
noun, verb (used with object), de·fenced, de·fenc·ing.
British.
variant of defense.
It’s Defence in England. And it is our language after all…
Well put
I concur.
My favorite Indy movie, Crystal Skull, has now been elevated ! Mock me no more, Indy fans ! lol
Who Da F is Phoebe Waller Bridge? Seriously... I really don' understand why she is elevated to such high reverence in Hollywood?
There are only 3 Indiana Jones movies, just as there are only two Star Wars trilogies
Had to laugh - "Speaking of garbage. . ." Great summary, thank you. I just checked the local AMC advanced sale page. As of 8 PM, the the 8:40 show has 3 reserved ticket sales. Great seats, center middle of the theater, but still 3 seats with one couple and a single. This is worse than horrible, and on Saturday night too. The good news is that the Adult tickets are only $17.99. They were going for $23.99 yesterday. Can they be discounting the tickets already?
Movie tickets are that expensive? What the fuck man
The story execs wanted to give Helena some flaws... Fair enough, but leaving Indy to die just to make a few bucks is not something any character can come back from. Come on KK. Are you insane? Why elevate a bully. Indiana Jones is a flawed character but his heart was always in the right place.
Because she's secretly jealous of George Lucas and Steven Spielberg for getting all the accolades for being so talented, whereas she clearly is not.
Just saw the movie and I'm still perplexed by what's shown, that's no end for an Indiana Jones. Indi drives so many vehicles (and animals) like it's a Mission Impossible. The director doesn't seem to have understood Indiana Jones. And what's with this female sidekick who has a sidekick? Disturbing 🤨 What was the Ford thinking? Apparently, actors really don't care about reputation as long as the money is right.
It is utterly mind blowing that they allow Kennedy to remain in charge.
Disney execs should be mentally ill to keep KK in charge, in fact she should have booted hard for what she was doing in Star Wars, and heck I am not even a super fan of the franchise, and I saw the original trilogy just a few years ago thinking it was just okay.
Agreed! It should have not been made at all.
As an 80's kid who was forever changed by that first whip-crack in the theater, I'm so saddened by what they've done. And I'm desperately trying to reconcile why most critics hated it, while viewer scores on RT are currently floating around the 90% mark. Are they all fake reviews? Do audiences simply not care? Is it a generational thing, where younger viewers don't have the memories of the past to compare it to like I do? It's all just so frustrating and disheartening.
I’ve never seen the original trilogy but man what they did here is clear as water, this movie wants to tarnish Indiana at every step to give his goddaughter the attention, everyone that has seen the movie and has 2 brain cells can notice it isn’t a generation issue
I think the only people who saw it r disney fan boys. Most people who can see the writing on the wall just didn't bother to watch it. Hopefully will go down over time because yeah I agree it doesn't make much sense I mean the movie must be terrible (I will never watch it crystal skulls was more than enough garbage for me to take)
The Woman King has a 99% score on RT - better than the Godfather and all the original Indy and Star Wars movies, better than anything Speilberg or HItchcock ever did. It's meaningless. A lot of movies made in the last decade have absurdly high reviews.
Even crystal skulls rating is highter than Temple of Doom.
I don't know why Hollywood puts so much stock in PWB? Fleabag, the franchise killer. First Bond and now Indy.
It was weird weird casting and I think it was effecting the movie profits well before it came out, just because the previews focused so heavily on her. Now most people probably have no clue who she is, so when they see the trailer they're left with no idea what the movie is abvout other than the idea that the movie is about a sad old Indy and the other main character is a middle aged plain looking English woman without sex appeal. What audience did they think she would add? She has no name value as a movie star so she isn't bringing in a general and female audience, she has no sex appeal so she isn't bringing in a male audience (and in the first 3 films the women though good characters, were used in marketing as sex symbols in the same way the Bond girls were for Bond).
She doesnt work from a marketing POV as a side character - and if anyone at Lucasfilm really thought a middle aged, plain looking British woman, who doesnt look like she could beat up my little sister - was truly going to be the next big action star and actually carry a solo action movie in the Indiana Jones franchise after Harrisson they were insane.
Contrast Indiana Jones from 1981 to this......
The original Raiders of the Lost Ark only cost 20 million before marketing costs.
Dial of Dysentery supposedly costs 300 million or more before marketing.
If this movie flops as big as has been claimed, it's going to be historic.
5:15 The cartoons I watched as a kid when they were doing chases, they make the heroes lose the villains by their craftiness and ingenuity, until in the final act the villains appeared out of nowhere for suspense, simple but effective, but they weren't able to do that, as you said the sheer level of incompetence from the writers is outstanding.
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It is easy to see that Proboscis Waller-Bridge is a Kennedy self insert, she will do anything to further her goals at the utter devastation of everything around her.
Ford should be held accountable too. He knew what happens to legacy characters at Lucasfilm but he went back for another round of girl bossing. Who knew Indy was into pegging.
Was Indy still wanted for murder at the end? All the people involved with the murders died in the past. So Indy is the only one left to prosecute
How do Kennedy's Lucasfilm movies manage to be worse than what we thought possible. Growing up, I thought surely there could be nothing worse than the prequel trilogy. Then we all know what happened there. Then I was like... "Surely there can't be any thing worse than Crystal Skull.... Right? .......Right?" 🤦 This is truly heartbreaking. All I have to look forward to now is another classic South Park episode describing exactly how I feel after this.
Well said. It blows my mind people don’t see what they are doing with these franchises. It’s not an accident or incompetence. They are deliberately destroying western male heroes. I’m not surprised, it’s all I see anytime I try to watch anything new. So I don’t watch anything new anymore.
Why do all characters that need to return at big screen at their old age have to be sad, miserable and broken? If they really need to show these characters to us, why they are not happy grandpas enjoying lives with their families? It's not like 2020 was the year where the first old male was ever shown on a big screen. We had old actors playing in movies before. Even old actors playing in action movies. Heck, old actors playing in Indiana Jones movies, like his father!
I guess that the state of the old, sad, broken exhausted man is just a reflection of the writers and producers.
I knew I would be disappointed and sure I was, but I'm also a guy walking in a desert of creativity, so I came for some droplets of water and I got them, but at the same time creativity hasn't disappeared, is just that Hollywood dried the pond, something or someone needs to happen or come to refill it.
This Helana Shaw character is a sociopath.
Elder abuse basically.
Harrison Ford is not blameless. He has participated in the character assassination of Han Solo, Rick Deckard, and Indiana Jones. All the characters he breathed life into, he has destroyed, and I think he knew he was doing it. I think he's nihilistically trying to destroy his own legacy, maybe because he's tired of being a movie star. Yes, the love of all the plebes gets so tiresome.
Screw this guy.
Don't forget Spielberg. He bailed when he realized how bad it would be instead of standing up to Kathleen and making a proper movie. This series is as much his as it is Harrison's and George's and he just ambled off and let KK, Mangold, and Fleabag ruin it.
Harrison Ford... I pity him, really. But yeah, he deserves some of the blame for this.
He’s not a writer and never has been. He genuinely loves Indy and just wanted to do one last one. You honestly think he knows or understands anything about modern diversity politics? He’s trusting the studios to make the best movie possible.
Vince, interesting point. I agree. Many actors/ actresses do movies whose scripts should have been left in the toilet. The Black Widow movie is a good example. But, Johansen did the movie because there was a big paycheck in it for her. Ford did the same thing. His career is in its last chapter (or last paragraph) strictly for the paycheck. He nearly killed himself (2x) flying his planes and sounds a little incoherent in his current interviews. It's all about money and not self respect or respect for the movie crowd. Be well and have a nice day.
Well he is bringing his characters to a close giving them a nice character arc and epic conclusion. Not sure but I think they're trying setup flea bag as the new Indy and will be like Rey. So flea bag will carry the franchise forward and Harrison Ford is hanging up the bullwhip.
I actually felt like Mangold wrote the first 15 minutes of this movie. The first 15 minutes actually felt like an Indiana Jones movie, and then it just went off the rails after that.
Agreed!
Good honest review that is not just the same as the others.
There's 4 Indiana Jones movies... and then there's the Dial of Destiny.
What? There are 3 Indiana Jones movies. What are you talking about?
I vaguely remember something about aliens and a fridge in a nuclear blast but I thought that was just a bad fan film.
@@davidcatlett4052 Nah, it was real. The blast must have knocked you cold since 2008.
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the creators of Indy 4 are happier than pigs in shtt. what a relief. went from F to D-plus
Denial of Destiny.
How did she knock Indiana Jones out? Let me guess... with a single punch?
The timeline doesn't quite work either. Indiana Jones was an active man during the outbreak of WWII. Showing him elderly in the 1960's is about 10-20 years too soon.
Ironically Harrison Ford now is about the age Indy would have been when Raiders of the Lost Ark hit theaters.
I’m going to see it on discount day. The completist in me has seen all the others in the theater, so I have to see this one too. But I won’t pay full price for it.
I’m skipping this flick. I really liked your comments about the need for fresh independent creators with good stories. I’m trying to do just that but can’t seem to find any open doors. I’ve got so many great stories to tell and I can direct and produce, so I’ll keep looking for a way in. Hopefully you’ll be positively reviewing one of my movies someday soon.
I never needed a fourth or fifth Indiana Jones movie, but I always knew that if they made one, I would have loved seeing Harrison Ford step into Sean Connery's role as the intelligent, experienced ex-adventurer armed with a mental library of unique knowledge, endless contacts in the world's universities, governments and underworlds, and having a fascinating, applicable story for every situation. (Did I ever tell you about the time I found the lost idol of Xochiquetzqal?) being both annoying to but ultimately cherished by whoever they cast as the new young hero.
Such a simple dream. I still dream it.
It sounds like every other recent Disney movie and show in the sense that the male hero is there in part to be an Uber driver to take his 'better' female replacement into the next movie/show. It also reminds me of She-Hulk finale in that the female character ends up with the means to re-write reality to her preferences.
There's a rumored post-credit scene to 'The Marvels' out where Kamala Khan (Ms. Marvel) talking with Kate Bishop (Hawkeye) about forming a team and mentions Cassie Lange (Antman) as a potential member. So, that's where all this leads I guess, a superhero team with none of those icky men around, hooray!
Side note: was the racial epithet 'cracker' really used in the movie, I think by the black female character?
Genuinely a sad & pathetic end to a screen icon. This should have been a triumphant final adventure for Indy. Given the justified criticism towards the Star Wars Rey & Luke thing...why did they go with this script/story?? It makes absolutely no sense....at all !
No, there is 1 more movie to be ruined... AMERICAN GRAFFITI. Lately When I hear commenters say, Well that is it, no more properties to ruin, I get creeped wondering if they will redo that almost perfect movie, and extremely yes perfect soundtrack and double album and amazing album cover.. That I still have with me and my brother's scribbling on it, and where I wrote, "Travis loves Suzanne Somers" under her pic on the album. The imagination reels w the possibility.
This movie just made me feel sad.
Excellent video thank you and far better than the actual film itself 👋🏽
Episode 10
Somehow Rey Palpatine has returned and is an even bigger Mary Sue
Right on the money! As I watched the movie and my dislike for Helena mounted, I wondered what was wrong with me.
Glad I wasn’t alone.
The only thing MORE disappointing than this disgraceful, tasteless, failure of a film, is the fact that Kathleen Kennedy isn't fired or hasn't stepped down from her position, though she WILL in due time, which would unironically be a new hope (Star Wars reference Haha) for us fans of these franchises we grew up with!
She's done well for the company and has many hits before.
Very well brought about. I agree with you, this is a mess!
I had never ever seen PWB before, I saw her first in Indy 5 and instantly hated her: the actress and her character. She utterly ruined the movie.
Yep😢
YES! Great video and critique! It's even more damning that such a talented female reviewer can't stand the awful Hell in a Shawl any more than we cancelled middle-aged dudes can.
I wouldn't have minded if Helena didn't respected Indy if she at least respected his experience and knowledge, but she didn't do it, and the rare instances she does listen to him is because it does directly benefit her, I have seen my fair share of insufferable, bratty and arrogant characters, but this takes the cake and eats it.
LucasFilm urgently, desperately, massively need new management and creators to steer the company in a better direction. They can keep on making films that are just CGI scenes strung together with woke messages to earn BlackRock's ESG points. Or they can make movies that are genuinely entertaining. But the experiment where movie bosses believe they can ignore audiences has to end
I liked the first 20 minutes of the film, if the rest of the film was that good it would be as good as the original 80's films. We went at the 2nd showing at 1pm... only about twelve people in the theater. Almost 50 dollars for two tickets and popcorn and drink. Wow that could be why movies can't sell out anymore. Had twenty minutes of advertising - and even didn't notice the film had started at one point. I think they could re-cut this film about 30 minutes shorter - My theory is Disney pushed the production ahead to get it out this summer. It just needed more editing time, its the hardest part of film production.
The writing of this movie is akin to being ‘crafted’ by video game writers, like the Uncharted series: Bad guys populate at every turn, always know where the protagonist is going, have a steady supply of thugs available and the plot is just as choppy.-and I like Uncharted way more,
I about guarantee they reused the same bridge from Goonies for this film. It looked eerily similar.
I feel bad for the film critics. They actually had to pay money to watch this film. Poor poor souls. Disney owes you guys!
She made it her mission to force us to create a new wave of modern Heroes and stories. Its just too easy to revere the genius of old. Thanks to her, we can hardly do that anymore.
Geez, its always fun to see Indy
*Forget the politics/ideology of Indy/Dial. Just the plot line & scenes alone of ancient Romans treating airplanes as no BFD, & trying to take them down as though they're modern-day teens aiming at police drones, somehow single-handedly to me symbolize what a POS this movie really is. Yea, uh-huh, I know that Indy/Dial is fiction/fantasy. But good fiction doesn't stretch basic history & basic reality (& basic human nature) past the breaking point*
There were parts I enjoyed... mainly the first 20 minutes or so. The ending was rushed and as you said, just ... ended. It was not satidfying nor a fitting ending. I would have been happier if he had just stayed in the past.
Bravo Missy!
Heard an interesting tidbit that it was during hiatus when Ford was recovering from an injury that Fleabag and KK got together to 'improve' the script and this is the result. Insane that they wish to shoehorn PWB into this franchise when she has no power to bring in an audience - any audience.
Her biggest success is a niche show popular with a maybe 5% audience share at best. Yet the entertainment industry allows her to work on and damage long established characters like James Bond and Indy Jones to either virtue signal or self insert their idealized version of a 'modern feminist'.
Good grief, you describe a trainwreck. So sad to hear the destruction of an incredible franchise! You have confirmed that this movie is unworthy of my time or money. Thanks!
James Bond, Han Solo, Indiana Jones. Who else are they going to kill off?
There are any number of films or even computer games that took their cues from Indiana Jones. Even without the brand recognition some managed to be quite successful. So when Romancing the Stone (1984) came out, most reviewers made comparisons to various Indiana Jones films. When Star Wars was successful, people decided there was an appetite for science fiction and I think that factored into Alien. My point is THEY DIDN'T NEED TO DO THIS. It's probably way more straightforward to make a calculation where a movie is standing purely on its own merit.
There are some movies that I wish I could not see multiple times
Just discovered ur channel and watched the 2 indy videos. Enjoyed the content and effort u put in! Agree with ur thoughts but the mic level needs raised big time? Super quiet even with headphones. Am I the only one?
It may be the consequence of hiring people who never went to acting school... in the old days, you would hear about an actor who always played the heavy as really being a nice guy, or an actor who played a hero as being an asshole in real life, but these days, the actor and his/her character seem to be indistinguishable. And from everything I've heard, this Phoebe Waller-Bridge is just as insufferable as her character(s).
well said!
You don’t need to be an obnoxious person to be a feminist, the past 3 Indy’s movies were certainly proofs of that. The woman were equals to Indy and without them Indiana Jones would be small and one dimensional. Men and woman is in harmony when supporting each other rather than competing. The modern feminist don’t seem to understand that.
They never solved Indy being wanted by the police either
With this movie and Kathy, I feel like a goose that "likes" to get food stumped down it's throat. "YOUHAVETOLIKEIT, DAMMIT".
We have brains and recognise bad things.
BTW, would loved to see you walk out the theatre. STATEMENT! You and more people should d this.
Just found your channel a few days ago, and i appreciate all you do here. Gonna share this everywhere i can✌️
This is why I want Disney to continue the franchise with Helena as the next “Indy”. It would be a guaranteed failure and would finally show once and for all how no one wants their new crappy female characters. With Indy 5, they'll probably blame it on the age of Harrison Ford or that the new generation isn’t interested in Indiana Jones.
i really like the idea that the film shows that the ones that are TRULY tired and morally bankrupt are the makers, writers and female "star" of this film.
i dont think a bigger disappointment is even possible.
Great review! But, l have the volume all the way up and can hardly hear you.
Her pronunciation is so weird and forced at times, that I start wondering if this person is actually an AI.
I hear you
As we used to say back in the day.... right on....
I watched kingdom of the crystal skull last night after seeing dial of destiny and even that movie is better
I reluctantly went to see this movie. It was ok. I was Thrilled to see Harrison Ford in character. Phoebe waller bridge was like wet paint. As was the kid. Both were obnoxius and did not exactly bring anything memorable to the film.Both actors have no unique traits. I could think the casting director could have made better choices. Antonio Banderas was a nice surprise . The ending brought a tear to my eye.
Well, Phoebe can always play the female lead in a Punch & Judy movie
Absolutely love this content, looking forward to the Witcher 3 season review now.
There's only two movies that I ever wanted to walk out on: The Last Jedi and Dial of Destiny 😒
Unexpected jail time certainly surprised me. o_O
There are only 3 Indiana Jones movies.
Change my mind.
They're standing on the shoulders of giants and pissing on them for all to see.
Guardians of the Galaxy showed us how its done. All new filmheroes that stayed pretty good for 3 films.
I hated Helena as a character, but I figured she was supposed to be unlikable…?
Indiana Joan and the Stench of the Red Mouse.
The way indy is in this movie is because they let harrison ford have his way he wanted this version of indy they gave him creative freedom he realy likes the grumpy old man stick
I have about as much desire to see this as much as I would watching grass grow.
It's almost as if they're deliberately trying to completely and totally destroy my entire childhood.
When you look at funding related to ESG scores it starts to make sense that loved and established characters are destroyed to meet ESG targets. The head of Blackrock and ESG Larry fink like Kennedy is saying people must be forced to adapt to this new way. Like the bad guys from one of these franchises.
Indiana Jones 5: The Dial of Intersectional Feminism fucking ruining everything.
I haven't seen reviews this bad since Thalidomide
I see the critical drinker has helped in your research.
I believe one of the driving forces behind these insulting feminist mantle-swaps simply boils down to a lack of creativity and imagination. The """creatives""" seem to believe they can simply take a popular character, insult, belittle and degrade him and then have some girlboss Mary-Sue step in to be better in every conceivable way, and this will somehow have the effect of transferring the old character's popularity to the new and improved version.
Instead, the new character is always poorly received, because people don't like it when their beloved characters are used as stepping stones to foist some new character on them; it's disrespectful to the characters people like and it feels like taking a short-cut. This is such a common and well-understood phenomenon that the Simpsons made fun of it nearly 30 years ago with "Poochie", the skateboarding dog who was supposed to be way cooler than Itchy and Scratchy, the Tom and Jerry standins in the Simpsons universe.
The other thing these mantle-swap characters fairly reek of is insecurity and overcompensation. It's never enough for them to stand out in one or two areas, with flaws and weaknesses in others, no, they have to be the best at everything, all the time, and the namesake hero has to be upstaged at every opportunity.
It's the way an eight-year-old would try to characterise their Dragon Ball Z OC.
I agree with you
I know that pissing on all things Disney is the current fashion, but I can't get on the hate train over this one. Fanboy politics aside, I actually liked it. It's not perfect, but no movie is. If you want to, you can find fault and pick apart anything, so I guess it comes down to your mood but I could watch it again. (What do I know, I liked David Lynch's "Dune"...)
Why would you like this? Indiana jhones is so depressed that he’s cast aside in his own movie and literally wants to die
Yeah l saw this because a friend wanted to. I think the criticism is a bit over the top. Aren’t all these adventure flicks ridiculous plot wise? I wouldn’t necessarily recommend it to anyone but its okay. A bit of harmless fun. I agree with the reviewer, the first 20 minutes was really good but it probably lost a bit after that.
@@solaireofastora6173 Yes, but I did not expect the Indy of his glory days, I was watching a discouraged man in his 80s finding strength for one last adventure. In the end, he found his happy ending.
I can't fathom how MadsMikkelson is considered to be a "great actor" when he always has a "deadpan" expression whether he's villain in Casino Royale or an ally in Clash Of The Titans.
He's excellent in HANNIBAL, but an actor can only do so much with what he's given to work with 😢