It's definitely interesting. I guess it could also really depend on what hidden power you get for certain Pokémon as well and it's probably not a bad secret power Pokémon either.
@@austinmartinez8541 if you get hp fighting, ground, or even bug or flying that might help you muscle through a lot of unfavorable matchups, esp since those are all physical in gen 3. and normal coverage from secret power or return is never too bad on a physical attacker. but solrock will still get outstatted eventually, even accounting for the player's advantage in ev's and badge boost
to be honest, it's not that bad, could be better, but you can use it as a physical attacker, and even though it's not that fast, Solrock can hit quite hard
I actually like Lunatone more, especially with it having access to Ice Beam, which I talk to mine as early as I could. I can definitely see you Lunatone as the one you would do next considering they are counterparts
I think this was a pretty fair assessment of Solrock: decent from the time you can get it, until around the last 3rd of the game. You may have said something about this before, but with all the mini pokemon assessments over the past few months, I think a revised encounter tierlist would be a good capstone to your quest for Emerald mastery.
I used to not have a lot of opinions about Solrock but when I got it as my first shiny in GO, I used it as my follow pokemon and started to like it a lot! I used it in a lot of battles in GO. I still have to used it in the main games tho
@@grumpygengar22actually thats exactly what made me run the battle in my last Nuzloke. Explosion Solrock and Dusklops lead into sharpedo. Was easy game
Solrock carries through the mid game (Flannery - Winona) very easily bc if it's typing being useful for those 3 gyms. Once the Water trials come though... not so great anymore. BUT did anyone really expect it be useful period?
My wife recently used Solrock on an Emerald playthrough and got Hidden Power Fighting to use alongside Rock Slide and Shadow Ball, she thoroughly enjoyed it.
Playing a hardcore Emerald right now and i finished Magma Hideout. Poatan, my Solrock was a superstar!!!!! BTW, i taught them STAB Rollout. And it was super fun!!!! Highly recommend if they are your encounter.
Actually find explosion sacking it in the liza tate fight with a ghost/protect pretty good though i prefer exploding golem instead. I find you can often get a one for two.
I'd like your take on Baltoy. I had a shiny one as a kid and I had it on my team till the very end. Since then I've always tried to include Baltoy in my team.
In my childhood run of Ruby, my favourite, most iconic team; the one I endlessly leveled and beat the Elite Four over and over and played with against my friends, included a Solrock. I never even glanced at guides or stat distributions back then, so I didn't even know that teaching it stuff like Psychic, Flamethrower, or Solar Beam was a bad idea with that terrible Special Attack stat (probably from all the EVs and overleveling). But I used it all the time, and found great success with it, and years and years later, I finally figured out why.... How many pokemon in Gen 3 can get Rock Slide by level up? Magcargo, Nosepass, Camerupt, and Solrock. Which of those pokemon get STAB on Rock Slide? Magcargo (at level 48...), Nosepass, and Solrock. Solrock has base 95 Attack and Nosepass has base.......45. Solrock is the only one with reliable access to STAB Rock Slide in Gen 3. And as it turns out, STAB Rock Slide is just really REALLY good.
You're using two move slots for a move type with not great coverage (grass) on a weaker special attack. I think Overheat is definitely a better option as it's got better coverage, higher base power and only needs one turn to use. It's better to stick with rock slide as your main damaging move.
@@officer_nipples1766 I was looking if you could take on water types by maxing spdef, and you can survive pretty well but yeah I checked solar beam damages and it's just not worth it
@@officer_nipples1766 Plus the Special Attack drop doesn't hurt that much since you're probably only gonna use it once, with the base Sp Atk being so low.
Solrock gets way better in future generations, since she gets Swords Dance and Flare Blitz, but it's still one of the best pokemon Lunatone however is genuinely better, higher special defense is overall better for Hoenn and it's the only pokemon that can baton pass cosmic power boosts
@@grumpygengar22 it does but unfortunately not obtainable in RSE, only the shadow Lunatone you putify from pokemon XD gale of darkness. Also I love your content I'm getting addicted ❤️ keep up
What do you think of Solrock?
Rock Throw, Cosmic Power
It's definitely interesting. I guess it could also really depend on what hidden power you get for certain Pokémon as well and it's probably not a bad secret power Pokémon either.
@@austinmartinez8541 if you get hp fighting, ground, or even bug or flying that might help you muscle through a lot of unfavorable matchups, esp since those are all physical in gen 3. and normal coverage from secret power or return is never too bad on a physical attacker. but solrock will still get outstatted eventually, even accounting for the player's advantage in ev's and badge boost
@@evanclark6160 high BP HP rock would be good too, since rock throw is relatively weak and inaccurate
to be honest, it's not that bad, could be better, but you can use it as a physical attacker, and even though it's not that fast, Solrock can hit quite hard
I actually like Lunatone more, especially with it having access to Ice Beam, which I talk to mine as early as I could. I can definitely see you Lunatone as the one you would do next considering they are counterparts
And let's not forget access to Moonblast in ORAS
Lunatone also has better Special Attack
Personally i love solrock design wise, however it never was good on the teams i used it on
This series is interesting and makes you try different pokemon instead of the usuals ones you use
I think this was a pretty fair assessment of Solrock: decent from the time you can get it, until around the last 3rd of the game. You may have said something about this before, but with all the mini pokemon assessments over the past few months, I think a revised encounter tierlist would be a good capstone to your quest for Emerald mastery.
I used to not have a lot of opinions about Solrock but when I got it as my first shiny in GO, I used it as my follow pokemon and started to like it a lot! I used it in a lot of battles in GO.
I still have to used it in the main games tho
Solrock can be somewhat decent into Tate and Liza. If you utilize the move tutor explosion, you will most likely KO two of their first Pokemon.
That's interesting. I guess you could use a ghost type alongside him to negate any friendly fire as well
@@grumpygengar22actually thats exactly what made me run the battle in my last Nuzloke. Explosion Solrock and Dusklops lead into sharpedo. Was easy game
People's opinions on Solrock tend to go thus: "Oh! This is so cool!" to "Oh! This is so worthless!" to "Oh! This is better than I thought!"
That is a very good way to explain it!
Sounds like a great series!
Solrock carries through the mid game (Flannery - Winona) very easily bc if it's typing being useful for those 3 gyms. Once the Water trials come though... not so great anymore. BUT did anyone really expect it be useful period?
Love the video!
My wife recently used Solrock on an Emerald playthrough and got Hidden Power Fighting to use alongside Rock Slide and Shadow Ball, she thoroughly enjoyed it.
Playing a hardcore Emerald right now and i finished Magma Hideout. Poatan, my Solrock was a superstar!!!!! BTW, i taught them STAB Rollout. And it was super fun!!!! Highly recommend if they are your encounter.
Actually find explosion sacking it in the liza tate fight with a ghost/protect pretty good though i prefer exploding golem instead. I find you can often get a one for two.
Awesome vid. This seems like it would be a really good series. I would like to see whiscash next as it is a Pokémon that others usually forget about.
Naturally earns Earthquake too!!
amazing vid as always, hope u keep making more. also I think more vids on specific gym fights would be helpful!
Please keep doing this kind of videos!
I'd like your take on Baltoy. I had a shiny one as a kid and I had it on my team till the very end. Since then I've always tried to include Baltoy in my team.
In my childhood run of Ruby, my favourite, most iconic team; the one I endlessly leveled and beat the Elite Four over and over and played with against my friends, included a Solrock.
I never even glanced at guides or stat distributions back then, so I didn't even know that teaching it stuff like Psychic, Flamethrower, or Solar Beam was a bad idea with that terrible Special Attack stat (probably from all the EVs and overleveling). But I used it all the time, and found great success with it, and years and years later, I finally figured out why....
How many pokemon in Gen 3 can get Rock Slide by level up? Magcargo, Nosepass, Camerupt, and Solrock. Which of those pokemon get STAB on Rock Slide? Magcargo (at level 48...), Nosepass, and Solrock. Solrock has base 95 Attack and Nosepass has base.......45.
Solrock is the only one with reliable access to STAB Rock Slide in Gen 3. And as it turns out, STAB Rock Slide is just really REALLY good.
That's awesome! And you're right, Rock Slide has to be its best strength.
Super well made!
Cosmic power is awesome for any pokemon that can learn it
Is sunny day solarbeam worth
You're using two move slots for a move type with not great coverage (grass) on a weaker special attack. I think Overheat is definitely a better option as it's got better coverage, higher base power and only needs one turn to use. It's better to stick with rock slide as your main damaging move.
@@officer_nipples1766 I was looking if you could take on water types by maxing spdef, and you can survive pretty well but yeah I checked solar beam damages and it's just not worth it
@@quinnbaker4689 unless you're doing a solo run, I think getting another team member to cover the water weakness is a better option
@@officer_nipples1766 Plus the Special Attack drop doesn't hurt that much since you're probably only gonna use it once, with the base Sp Atk being so low.
Nice video. New subscriber. Please keep going on this series cause is so nice to try other pkmns never thought about. Thank you!
Solid video, love the concept and left with a new appreciation for the rock. Looking forward to more analysis on overlooked mons!
I think you made a mistake. In gen 3 the hp was 70. They'd rise up to 90 in 7th gen.
Thank you for pointing that out, I actually had no idea this change was made.
@@grumpygengar22 no prob :D. Nice video
love the video solrock was my ace in the battle fortiter
cool
Found a shiny one in Emerald years ago (emulator game though). I like that it's red and gold.
Yeah it's a great shiny!
It's a great pokemon, especially once it learns explosion. 250 bp, and halves the defense of the opponent.
It's all fun and games until you miss 2-3 Rock Throws in a row. :/
This is true. So I guess his usefulness will depend on what kind of day you're having haha
This reminds me of the time my manectric died to Wallace's milotic because he missed 2 thunders in a row
@@poisondax4771 :(
Did he run out of Thunderbolts?
@@robertlupa8273 nope, I didn't have thunderbolt, didn't know how to get it at the time
Solrock gets way better in future generations, since she gets Swords Dance and Flare Blitz, but it's still one of the best pokemon
Lunatone however is genuinely better, higher special defense is overall better for Hoenn and it's the only pokemon that can baton pass cosmic power boosts
Interesting, I didn't realize that Lunatone got Barton Pass!
@@grumpygengar22 it does but unfortunately not obtainable in RSE, only the shadow Lunatone you putify from pokemon XD gale of darkness.
Also I love your content I'm getting addicted ❤️ keep up