I think 200kg is a pretty reasonable weight for a motorcycle. The extra weight makes it feel more sturdy on the road. Also I am 6'4" and 105kg so I don't really want my bike to be super light underneath me.
I like the bike as I’ve had quite a few Hondas in 53 years of motorcycling, but please all manufacturers stop putting those ridiculous metal footrest on bikes , rubber ones are much more comfortable and don’t destroy your instep over long rides , and when it’s wet your foot slips on the metal ones as well 😊👍👍
Not to mention how the pegs grab your work boot sole on occasion preventing your movement for balance in coming to a stop. I have to use flat soles now it happens so often.
This is just kind of the beginning of an idea. Why don’t you purchase some other motorcycle or bicycle hand handlebar grips .. cut to size and glue it to your metal peg. We don’t have to wait for the manufacturer to fix things when we’re capable of fixing it ourselves.
@@tonybarton3746 I've got a list of rubbish design on modern bikes. Ugly AF transformers appearance and rock hard uncomfortable seats top the list of shitness for me. There are so many crap new bikes. If you like crap you're spoiled for choice.
E-clutch concept looks great. Much better than automatic with paddle shifters as the manual option. Look forward to seeing it on more bikes…maybe some Triumphs too?
I wonder how comfortable this bike is. I've never seen one in person. It seems like comfort is one of the last things the manufacturers think about when it comes to things like seats and footpegs...
Agreed. When I saw the 2024 model and ran out and bought a brand new 2022 model for a great price. Love it. Took it on a racetrack over the weekend and filmed it. I'm not Valentino Rossi but I had fun anyway. Check out the video on my page.
The cheap Honda CT had an automatic clutch for years, it's simple and cheap. So what's up with this trendy E-Clutch now? as if it's a new ultra-modern and intelligent solution lol
I notice your demonstrator has the same issue as the CBR650R in that the swing arm paint rubs off near the footpeg and it looks really unsightly mine has done the same. Can't understand why the put the fancy red hexagonal sport (same as new 2024 CBR650R) dip stick on the neo looks out of place. Good channel.
Can’t decide between this Honda or Trident 660, for a new rider. Mostly riding in city, so something lighter and more nimble is preferred, but the new eClutch really sways me towards Honda…
Same with me. I like Honda in general. The CB650R, Triumph Trident 660 & Triumph Speed 400 for a first-time rider, but I took my motorcycle license back in 2009. I'm planning to buy one for occasionally & city riding. The e-clutch for the city riding has me very much interested.
I really like this version apart from the new air vent design. The previous model's air vents looked way more natural. I like the new headlight design though.
Not the biggest fan of the headlight (I prefer the original) or air intake design But the new dash looks great,the tail light looks pretty good too 👍🏿. The E-clutch is OK ,I can see a lot of younger or maybe newer riders using it though.
Great bike, got the ‘19 model, shame they dropped the blue color (the prettiest). Do it all go anywhere bike, miss only cruise control and a more comfortable seat
Not too sure how you decide between a mild sporty 650 four and a mildly sporty 750 twin but nice to have choices. For me the 650 looks better, not sure what it is but the Hornet looks very bland to me.
I feel this is one of the best machines Honda currently makes. Unfortunately here in Australia it's sold in a detuned version so learner riders are able to buy it. If it was available asthe full power model I'd consider buying one.
@@jamesballard6564 Yeah because it's one of only a few modern bikes I like. I think if I could buy the full power version off the shelf here in Australia I'd have one in the shed. It's in the sweet spot for power and utility whilst still looking good. I like the beautiful looking headers reminiscent of the 400 4 supersport from the 70s.
I would spec the e-clutch IF it wasn't a huge cancerous blob on the side of the engine. When they can incorporate it inside the engine casing and give us a clean exterior design then it will be a go. I have a 2022 CB650R anyway so I'm not in the market and in many ways I think the older model actually looks better so win-win?
A 456 pound naked bike is not a "middle weight." It weighs the same as the Super Duke 1390. It weighs the same as an MT10 or a Tuono V4. Honda has to stop making "affordable" bikes out of lead.
I love the design. At least this is the best honda design for this year. The rest just are ugly, and lazy. sorry to say. Just my personal take on honda.
ABS. Traction Control. Quick Shifter. E-Clutch and Auto Boxes. Apart from aiming such bikes; what skills are left ?. This is becoming a parody of motorcycling !.
@@gudbread8523 What person, after buying a bike with an E-Clutch, is going to disable it ?. Very, very few, to no one. Also, if they do it means they probably bought the wrong bike !. Complaining about ABS ? No. But the inclusion of it does mean another skill lost. With 50 years of riding in all weathers, I can tell you that while it is very 'nice', it is not needed and I treasure the skills that I have developed to ride safely without it !.
@@zaphodbeeblebrox4574 any smart person would disable it. I use it strictly for city riding and the moment I’m out I’m operating it on manual. As for abs… you would prefer more people to die without it?
Abs and traction control are good so long as you can disable. Im not a fan of e clutches and quick shifters. I dont care what's faster, im here to have fun
More and more bikes are loosing character over namsake advancements. E clutch js one. Takes the joy out of riding a bike and feeling the engine when changing gears
Love the look of this bike, but i prefer the air vents of the previous model. Overall though, its a great looking bike.
I have a 2021 CB300R and was looking to jump to the 650R. Pretty insightful video. Thanks.
I think 200kg is a pretty reasonable weight for a motorcycle. The extra weight makes it feel more sturdy on the road. Also I am 6'4" and 105kg so I don't really want my bike to be super light underneath me.
I like the bike as I’ve had quite a few Hondas in 53 years of motorcycling, but please all manufacturers stop putting those ridiculous metal footrest on bikes , rubber ones are much more comfortable and don’t destroy your instep over long rides , and when it’s wet your foot slips on the metal ones as well 😊👍👍
Not to mention how the pegs grab your work boot sole on occasion preventing your movement for balance in coming to a stop. I have to use flat soles now it happens so often.
This is just kind of the beginning of an idea. Why don’t you purchase some other motorcycle or bicycle hand handlebar grips .. cut to size and glue it to your metal peg. We don’t have to wait for the manufacturer to fix things when we’re capable of fixing it ourselves.
@@tonybarton3746 I've got a list of rubbish design on modern bikes. Ugly AF transformers appearance and rock hard uncomfortable seats top the list of shitness for me. There are so many crap new bikes. If you like crap you're spoiled for choice.
Love my cb650r 2023 model
E-clutch concept looks great. Much better than automatic with paddle shifters as the manual option. Look forward to seeing it on more bikes…maybe some Triumphs too?
The ultra-cheap Honda CT had an automatic clutch for decades, no one made such a fuss about it lol.
I wonder how comfortable this bike is. I've never seen one in person. It seems like comfort is one of the last things the manufacturers think about when it comes to things like seats and footpegs...
Sat on one today, very comfortable and I’m 6”4.
@@juul9098Ditto & I'm 5'10". The rider triangle appears almost perfect.
The more videos on the Honda 650s i see, the more i regret getting rid of my cbr650r for a more powerful bike
get the Aprilia Tuono V4 and you won't regret it :)
It really is a good daily. Especially considering 4 cylinder engines are going extinct.
They spoilt the looks of the 2024 model with the change of the air intakes and the change in headlight.
The 2023 model looked better.
Agreed, the sharp looks were much better
Agreed. When I saw the 2024 model and ran out and bought a brand new 2022 model for a great price. Love it. Took it on a racetrack over the weekend and filmed it. I'm not Valentino Rossi but I had fun anyway. Check out the video on my page.
Was actually really consider Honda CB650 R before I got Husqvarna Svarpilen 801. Love the looks of Honda.
Great video
aren't you afraid of the camshaft failures above 10k miles as it's the same engine as the ktm duke 790
What about the 10k miles cam failures ?
The cheap Honda CT had an automatic clutch for years, it's simple and cheap. So what's up with this trendy E-Clutch now? as if it's a new ultra-modern and intelligent solution lol
I notice your demonstrator has the same issue as the CBR650R in that the swing arm paint rubs off near the footpeg and it looks really unsightly mine has done the same. Can't understand why the put the fancy red hexagonal sport (same as new 2024 CBR650R) dip stick on the neo looks out of place.
Good channel.
Just ordered mine, the red dip stick is an option, didn’t bother on mine even though it’s a red bike.
Can’t decide between this Honda or Trident 660, for a new rider. Mostly riding in city, so something lighter and more nimble is preferred, but the new eClutch really sways me towards Honda…
Same with me. I like Honda in general. The CB650R, Triumph Trident 660 & Triumph Speed 400 for a first-time rider, but I took my motorcycle license back in 2009. I'm planning to buy one for occasionally & city riding. The e-clutch for the city riding has me very much interested.
For a brand new rider who isn't accustomed to doing their own maintenance I would recommend the honda.
It looks nice, but the Neo Cafe styling of the previous model was really nice, there was no reason to change that.
I really like this version apart from the new air vent design. The previous model's air vents looked way more natural. I like the new headlight design though.
The new cb650r is like the nice girl you knew in high school but wanna get with now that you’re in your twenties.
Love this bike
Not the biggest fan of the headlight (I prefer the original) or air intake design But the new dash looks great,the tail light looks pretty good too 👍🏿. The E-clutch is OK ,I can see a lot of younger or maybe newer riders using it though.
It's a Honda, so, capable . Always 1-2 yrs behind on the visuals, but capable .
They're conservative with looks 99% of the time 😅
I like the simple/plain look. It's not as flashy as a sports bike.
What is comparable that looks better in your opinion? I like the 2023 version better but it’s still a fantastic looking bike
@terdferguson4945 The Tuareg-660 looks way better, costs about the same, and it's way more capable both on and off road
Great bike, got the ‘19 model, shame they dropped the blue color (the prettiest). Do it all go anywhere bike, miss only cruise control and a more comfortable seat
Not too sure how you decide between a mild sporty 650 four and a mildly sporty 750 twin but nice to have choices. For me the 650 looks better, not sure what it is but the Hornet looks very bland to me.
I would probably add a bit more and get a used speed twin 1200 for that price
I feel this is one of the best machines Honda currently makes. Unfortunately here in Australia it's sold in a detuned version so learner riders are able to buy it. If it was available asthe full power model I'd consider buying one.
I believe it can be uncorked once you get past A2 qualifications. At least that's what I've read from others.
@@jamesballard6564 From what I understand it involves spending another $1000 to un bugger it. Too rich for my blood.
@@ozyrob1 damn! That sux.
@@jamesballard6564 Yeah because it's one of only a few modern bikes I like. I think if I could buy the full power version off the shelf here in Australia I'd have one in the shed. It's in the sweet spot for power and utility whilst still looking good. I like the beautiful looking headers reminiscent of the 400 4 supersport from the 70s.
Auto-blipper/QS sensor: 5 ounces (including cable)
E-clutch: 10 lbs?
CB650R 2023 wet weight - 445
CB650R 2024 wet weight - 455
And the CBR is 465 up from 445?
I think the e-clutch actually adds 4 lbs
I wonder if you're able to rev your bike while splitting through traffic but being able to go back to e mode without it stalling out?
Nice but I think I'd prefer something less frantic & revy. E clutch yes think i'd love it.
I don't understand this bike is like 2K euro more expensive in the Netherlands. Still my dream bike tho
I'm in love!
Really great bike!! Thank you!!
Can you upload in 4k please, your dji action is capable, but you're only uploading in 1080. Doesn't look that great on a 4k tv
These bikes have all the bells and whistles, still cant carry the bags from the supermarket. Α front side hook would do it just fine.
Hows the fit and finish of this vs the zx4rr?
Where is the ktm 790 duke? Never saw in in you list
Broken down. Camshaft lobes
That tail, I love the old one better.
Such significant updates and yet Honda still refuses to give this thing a simple oil sight glass
its on the 500's, but not on the more expensive 650, lol
I would spec the e-clutch IF it wasn't a huge cancerous blob on the side of the engine. When they can incorporate it inside the engine casing and give us a clean exterior design then it will be a go. I have a 2022 CB650R anyway so I'm not in the market and in many ways I think the older model actually looks better so win-win?
I can only have one bike at a time coz of space so I need the bike to tick as many boxes as possible so no cruise control rules it out for me
That will pretty much religate you to expensive American and Europe brands. We all have to compromise in life.
Anyone know if Canada/US will get this bike?
A 456 pound naked bike is not a "middle weight." It weighs the same as the Super Duke 1390. It weighs the same as an MT10 or a Tuono V4.
Honda has to stop making "affordable" bikes out of lead.
Is it ride by wire?
4 cylinders is 4 cylinders, others are cheap, budged far, away from motorcycle feeling. I hope Yamaha will bring back the Fz4 like Honda did
Bellissima ❤
You can’t get hold of these, Honda have stopped supplying them due to a problem.
Any examples?
Why do i see a frog's face in your jacket? Pockets are eyes. Dent is the mouth.
Those two hairdryers on each sides..yuk!! Prefer the previous version
Yeah that's the only thing I don't like about this version. They really stand out
E-clutch in principle? Yes, but where is an attractive cover rather than the 1940's non-designed blacksmith lash-up!
Compare to the 990 duke
It's a massive price difference
No thanks on e clutch. I don’t want everything done for me. Keep them simple.
🍀nice
The soundtrack is lame when stock, but put an exhaust+tune on it and it gets bonkers. My 2021 CBR650R is just crazy with the Akra system.
Maybe if you like being obnoxiously loud. Otherwise, it sounds great as-is.
@@VelkePivo Man, it sounded like a fucking scooter. Even other people noticed, the best mod for this bike is the exhaust.
@@chuckles069a loud exhaust is fine if you want to look like an 18 year old and piss everyone else off.
Your roads are too claustrophobic for motorcycle riding.
Are you from the US? This is normal for country roads all over Europe.
@@Starstreak170 I think it's a UK thing only.
I love the design. At least this is the best honda design for this year. The rest just are ugly, and lazy. sorry to say. Just my personal take on honda.
headlight? guess they tired to copy the ugliest one out there...KTM! they come in a close second!
It's too heavy
Looks like cb1000r, wtf man 😢
ABS. Traction Control. Quick Shifter. E-Clutch and Auto Boxes. Apart from aiming such bikes; what skills are left ?. This is becoming a parody of motorcycling !.
missing the point. Traction control and e clutch can both be disabled. And are you complaining about ABS? Seriously?
@@gudbread8523 What person, after buying a bike with an E-Clutch, is going to disable it ?. Very, very few, to no one. Also, if they do it means they probably bought the wrong bike !. Complaining about ABS ? No. But the inclusion of it does mean another skill lost. With 50 years of riding in all weathers, I can tell you that while it is very 'nice', it is not needed and I treasure the skills that I have developed to ride safely without it !.
@@zaphodbeeblebrox4574 any smart person would disable it. I use it strictly for city riding and the moment I’m out I’m operating it on manual. As for abs… you would prefer more people to die without it?
Abs and traction control are good so long as you can disable. Im not a fan of e clutches and quick shifters. I dont care what's faster, im here to have fun
@@Vo0Do0972 Good Attitude.
100 quid, sure, but f*ck it looks bloody awful bolted on there. It looks, like all Hondas, so very very boring.
What's the point of E-Clutch? If you wanted this, wouldn't you be better off buying a Volkswagen!?
Boring af
More and more bikes are loosing character over namsake advancements. E clutch js one. Takes the joy out of riding a bike and feeling the engine when changing gears
You’re missing the point . The E clutch still allows you to use the clutch and change gear manually. Best of both worlds.
@@CCooke-nm2becorrect and in heavy stop and go traffic it’s a blessing
Sure grandpa… still rocking the kick start I assumed? Carburetors with choke? Drum brakes? Those were the good old days… right?