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Fun Fact: Akira Toriyama, the creator of the Dragon Ball series, is a huge fan of western movies like Star Wars and The Terminator. And the Trunks Saga was inspired by The Terminator.
Fun fact: Arnold initially disputed with James Cameron over saying "I'll be back" as he thought that it sounded too womanly. James Cameron told him "how about you be the actor and let me be the director?" Arnold relented and read the line as it was written and of course it went down in pop culture history. Arnold stated that he NEVER questioned James Cameron's decision's again after that.
@@cdawgleelee9572 It's amazing how different those two lines are. The "I will come back" is so void of personality, but also very precise and literal. Very robotic.
Another fact, when Sarah was escaping with Kyle, she looked like she was in pain, and that was because Linda Hamilton was actually in pain, as she had hurt her foot before the film was even in production and it didn't heal. There was also supposed to be a whole sub-plot where the T-800 was cutting into the feet of the Sarahs to find metal screws in them to see if it found the real Sarah Conner.
The Kyle Reese death scene deserves special mention. In a lot of movies and shows, even back then, a main character dying had this sort of dramatic requirement that they would live long enough to speak some last words. Have a comforting exchange with their survivors, or even just that last meaningful look. Having a scene where one protagonist turns over the other and they're just dead is a real shock and hammers home the reality of the situation, even when that reality is filled with stop-motion robots and cheap fire effects.
Usually people like first two movies, but I accept only first "Terminator". Bad things in T2: Arnolds hair style (imagine robot, who was designed to kill people, every day make his hairstyle, to keep hair stand straight), his leather pants, his "cute" stupidity and smile ("fan service" in next films) and these phrases from previous movie like "Ill be back", "come with me, if you want to live"... T2 is very pop culture. One thing I like in T2 is Robert Patrick. I wish he was in first film as T-800 instead of Arnold (with all respect to Arnold). P.S. Btw you know this meme Chad vs Virgin? In T1 literally virgin (before he did it with Sarah Connor) Kyle Reese defeated Chad terminator. ))
@@jus_sanguinis You're telling me that you don't "accept" a movie because it has some fan service in it? And then something about Virgin Vs. Chad... you're not making any sense.
@@jus_sanguinis Your ridiculous take on T2 aside, you've got it wrong: it would be Chad Kyle Reese vs Virgin Terminator. That's because when Kyle Reese had "defeated" it, he had already slept with Sarah Connor and the T 800 has never slept with anyone as it's a machine.
@@zackcross7190 To be fair to Doc, that was a pretty emotional moment for him. He was about to leave the woman he fell in love with behind forever so it probably didn't feel right for him to just leave her without a truthful explanation. He probably also figured he had nothing to lose as it didn't matter in the long run if she believed him or not.
1984 is easily a top contender for best year in film. We got: The Terminator Ghostbusters A Nightmare On Elm Street Indiana Jones & The Temple of DooM The Karate Kid Gremlins Beverly Hills Cop This Is Spinal Tap Sixteen Candles The Never Ending Story ...and the list goes on and on.
@GRADY FALLERT - STUDENT great, now I can't stop thinking about that meme where that guy is holding hands with that one woman, and looking at the other. But it's him looking at hello fresh while holding stamps.com hands
And in the current age of machinery replacing human jobs, drone warfare and scientists seeking smart AI, it really does! The more I see this movie, the more terrfying that this kind of reality is a possibility.
@@lenini056 and the MAGA morons love to vote for the people who are all for machinery replacing people, cause its always a sign of high intelligence when you have to hurrrr own da libs by voting for the people who literally could care less about you unless its election time or feed them lies about stolen elections because they know the dimmest low IQ citizens will believe it.
Now I wish NC does Blade Runner (1982). I know there are lot of people who like that movie, but when I saw it in 2017, it felt so outdated and old school. Terminator 1 (1984) however, I thought it holds quite well, but that maybe because I saw it in late 1990s (as in, nostalgia, less picky standard at that time, my age could've been a factor).
Fun fact, Bill Paxton is the only actor to ever be killed by an Alien, a Predator, and a Terminator. Also no, Bishop from Aliens doesn't count, he survived the encounter with the queen, Ripley killed him in the next movie.
Of course Bishop counts, making Lance Henriksen to join the club. Otherwise one could argue Hudson was taken alive to be facehuggered and ended up dying when the planet was nuked, hence not killed by an alien either. So yeah, excluding Bishop makes no sense whatsoever.
@@CometF81 Bishop doesn't count because an alien didn't kill him. Also, as much as the game sucked, we do find Hudson's body in Colonial Marines, he lived long enough to get a chestburster.
I love the poetic cinema with the picture of Sarah. Reese looks at it and said that he always wondered what she was thinking about in that moment, and in the end we learned that she was thinking about him. I love that
Speaking of great characters, you didn't mention my favorite character growth moment of the movie! The point where Sarah yells at Kyle "On your feet, soldier!" and manages to get him moving again - she goes from the pure damsel in distress she's been the whole movie to battle commander mode, and is suddenly someone you can legitimately believe trained her son to fight a future war. So satisfying!
To be fair, some of the most infamous serial killers throughout history are usually people you wouldn't suspect. Ever heard of Ed Gein? He's the guy that such films like "Texas Chainsaw Massacre", "Silence of the Lambs" and "Psycho" were based on. The guy literally killed people and wore their skin, yet nobody and i repeat NOBODY suspected him for years, which is why he got away with it. Hell, I saw a documentary on him once, where all the people that used to live with him, in the small town this all took place in, and even said they thought he was the nicest and sweetest guy they ever known. One lady even said she didn't think he could hurt a fly. In fact, some even said in that documentary that they even allowed Ed Gein to BABYSIT their kids on multiple occasions. Kind of scary huh?
I love how well Arnie played the Terminator in this film, especially with his eyes. His eyes move first then the head would turn, like a machine scanning the area. And how he wanted to avoid blinking while shooting any firearm to even make the Terminator more believable as a emotionless, terrifying, killing machine.
@@oxtheunlikelycontemplator2682 turning your head first *is* relying on peripheral vision though. You move your eyes first because they move quicker than your head, so the thing you want to look at is in focus.
That's why in horror video games the monsters should really run at like 10 FPS whereas everything else runs at 30 or 60, makes monsters more scary when their movements aren't the same speed. Makes it more unnatural.
Man, I wish I felt the same as you. I'm with Doug. The awkwardness of the whole scene just made it feel a lot more obvious how fake the whole thing is. I couldn't take it serious.
Plus the terminator was damaged by this point so its awkward movements have justification (though maybe some extra frames of animation per second would've been better?)
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James Cameran later said that he had a nightmare featuring a robotic skeleton rising from a fire and that's what inspired him to make this movie and, of course, that scene.
And that scene was paid for out of his pocket because the studio wanted it to end at the truck exploding. The genesis of the story was his fever dream of a metal skeleton rising out of fire so it had to be in there to be complete
I think that kyle's love for Sara makes sense because he comes from a future in which there is only violence, destruction and desolation. He spent years looking at the photo of a person from another, a better era and fell in love in a platonic way and when he met her and got along with her, he didn't need much more.
I don't think he fell in love with someone from a better era, but rather, like he himself says, a legend. It'd be like someone interested in certain eras of history meeting the likes of Cleopatra, Joan of Arc, or the like, except to an even greater degree, as she's from the immediate past with a huge impact on the current world. In the future, John Conner is the hope of mankind, and Sarah is this mythic figure who had the foresight to make him that.
That was the point. People were supposed to figure out that Reese loved her in a platonic way before he even met her. John purposely gave him the photo because of that. Some people just interpret that Kyle fell in love with her in just a couple of days if you don’t really pay attention.
I first saw the Terminator when I was about 10. When the Terminator lost his skin and all that was left was his skeleton I was terrified. Even at that age I knew the effects were fake but despite knowing that I was still terrified! The fakeness of the scene just makes the skeleton look more otherworldly and it was amazing. To this day I’m still kinda scared of it.
I wish the Terminator sequels after T2 explored more of the time loop and the dynamics where if Skynet doesn't exist, neither would John Connor. Both are arch-enemies but their existence depends on each other's causation. If T2 did stop Skynet's existence: > Skynet would never had sent the Terminator back in time > Sarah would never had crushed the Terminator in the Cyberdyne factory > The computer factory would never had reverse engineered the Terminator's CPU chip to create Skynet > John Connor would never had sent Kyle Reese back in time > Kyle Reese and Sarah Connor would never had conceived John This would've ended both Skynet and John Connor's existence. Those who wants to stop Judgment Day and Skynet from taking over just simply murder John Connor when he's a kid. So Skynet actually did indirectly committed suicide in T1.
the setup makes no sense, u cant use tech to go back in time and prevent the same tech to be invented. no skynet no time travel no future and no people to go back in time
The last three kind of addressed this paradox in different ways that I think would've been great if they were handled better and focused on with a bit more nuance than the spectacle of the robots fighting. In Dark Fate, Skynet technically wins by succeeding to kill John Connor. But Skynet becomes some other self aware AI with different abilities. Which means that even though the events of T2 happened, a Skynet of some kind is inevitable, as it's a man made entity in the first place. Then even without John himself, someone will just as inevitably be brave enough to stand up, rally the people and fight back. In Genysis, Skynet also technically wins by capturing and converting John using the time travel as a bait and switch. It used his knowledge of the future and how to win against him due to the fact that he never knew what came next. Things go tits up and the timeline gets refreshed as it corrects itself in the mind of the only (human) person that can remember both timelines. Skynet can't exist without John, so Skynet and John become one in the same. Then there's Salvation which kind of affirms the status quo, and i know I went backwards. But I wanted to mention this one last because I loved the idea that they had in the original, and much darker script. If studio interference hadn't reared it's ugly head, John Conner was actually going to die, and Sam Worthington's character was going to take his place wearing skin modeled after his likeness. Re-contextualizing John's actual importance to the fight against Skynet and retroactively explaining how and why it was so (relatively) easy for "John" to defeat them. As a Terminator, he has all of this knowledge, in site, and access to their systems to be able to infiltrate and destroy them from the inside out. Ultimately, Skynet is the one true architect of both it's creation and destruction.... But we never got that, and I'm salty to this day about it.
Its not really a time loop tho. Its more like in LoK and MiB 3 where the current of time is so strong that even the act of travelling back into the past is part of the intended course of events
There's also the issue of John's conception as a whole. T1 is considered by some a second timeline since John and Reese met in... a Skynet prison iirc? Reese goes back in time and John is conceived , but in the timeline where they met there John's father would have to be someone else since no time travel shenanigan's would be in play yet...
That's kinda the point of T3, that judgment day is inevitable, and why I actually like that film as a closing to the trilogy, as it completes the time loop. The simple fact that John Connor and the previous terminators exist in the present guarantees that this horrific future will always occur.
I actually like the stop motion of the Terminator near the end it makes it seem more menacing obviously not human and with the previous scene of it getting blown up in the truck I still think it holds up pretty well.
I don't think it's that strange that he's in love with Sarah Connor, being at how bleak everything in the depicted future is, it could make sense that a picture of her might actually appear to be the most beautiful woman he's ever seen before.
@@lovablesnowman Well considering men fall in love quicker than women, and the fact that love can literally happen in the span of 10 minutes (when I say love, I mean "lust" which most people mistake as love... love itself is more of a decision with feelings only following afterward), it makes sense lol
Always loved how they portray the Terminator as this relentless killer who stops at nothing even when it is down to crawling on its torso, and then ending off being only an arm reaching out at Serah (the closest it has ever been to its goal) only to finally be crushed to death and we see the light in its eye finally going out. I always liked to imagine that every part of this machine was deadly, and that if it had gotten a grip on her in that final scene, it totally could have killed her with just that.
Although that seems to be their weakness too. In other movies and the TV show, the moment a terminator IDs John Connor (or Dani Ramos in the Dark Fate film), it just drops everything in an attempt to kill him - drawing attention to itself in the process - instead of taking that information, forming a plan (which needn't be complicated...could be as simple as going up to him, map in hand, to ask for directions), and executing it with the element of surprise.
@@Vistico93 You’re right it isn’t very tactical, but just the thought of an unstopable killing machine being after you is scary in itself I think. Kinda like that scene in Big Hero 6 where Hiro makes Baymax go berserk. Because a robot who is programmed to kill doesn’t stop for mercy or ask questions.. it does exactly what you have programmed it to. Nothing more, nothing less.
One of my favorite details was when the psychiatrist leaves Sara telling her not to worry, "there's 25 police officers in this station". As he walks right passed Arnold coming in. As a joke, I started counting how many cops he kills. They had such attention to detail that you can count each machine gun burst as a death and it adds up to almost the exact number of police officers in the station! I also liked that they made Kyle really painfully human. The time travel hurts, he's lost, scared, and just trying to scrounge enough to keep going. He can't explain the details of time travel because he's a soldier, not a scientist, and it isn't even human tech. Michael Biehn, man. Such an underappreciated actor.
I mean considering he was born during the war he probably thought that telling facts might be good. But he probably could have been briefed better by connor to not act like a raging lunatic.
@@Jebu911 John Conner had to follow the script his mother left him or he would have endangered his own existence. Think about it, John knows he will meet Kyle one day, has to befriend him, give him the picture and send him back in time to safe his mother, conceive Conner and die. And all that while uniting the rest of humanity and beath themachines.
Re: Running a gun shop. The risk isn't keeping ammunition near the weapons, the risk is not noticing this guy isn't right, not noticing he opened a box of ammunition, turning your back on him while he has the weapon and an open box of ammunition, and being the only clerk in the store.
Walks into a police station dressed like a punk, asking about the attempted victim of a serial killer hours after he shot up a club, all while acting like a deranged person at best. Clerk just ignores it. Yeah, I see getting unduely lucky. "Infiltration unit" indeed. Now the T-1000? That was an infiltrator, even without the liquid metal.
TBF the movie was made and set before the 1986 FOPA, so being somewhat lax about keeping accessible guns and ammo near each other would be understandable; not to mention the racism angle as well, since both the Terminator and the clerk are white. The scene would have to go differently if OJ ended up playing the Terminator, since the clerk would be quite leery of a black man coming in and knowing what guns he wanted.
FOPA means virtually nothing. Assuming you're discussing the Hughes amendment, that only changed the manufacturing status of automatic weapons. They required additional permission and tax stamps since the NFA of 1934. They weren't really over the counter or the sort of thing you could walk out with the same day. It's one of my big bugaboos about hollywood, right after trigger discipline, you can't just walk into a store and but automatic weapons. Not today (Death Wish 2018) not in 1984 (Terminator) and not since before the second world war. It's like suppressors and SBRs today, sure you gan get them, but after the ATF has taxed you, investigated you, made you wait a year, and still demands you tell the cops if you so much as leave the house with them. It's just annoying is all.
12:41 To me, it makes perfect sense. Kyle Reese grew up after the machines had risen, so he never really was interviewed before nor had to lie to get something. He just grew up in a ‘try not to die, shoot first’ world. So it makes a little sense to me at least.
The first one is good, very good. I like that The Terminator in this one is actually scary and unstoppable. The story is pretty basic, but the action makes up for it. The police station massacre is legendary today.
SCHWARZENEGGER was not the profiled actor back then we know from later years. I mean look we had there an Austrian " Muscle Mountain ", Mister Universe from the competition in Munich 1973 who wanted to come out big in the USA without much acting knowledge from start. So it is no wonder the man came over here just like some walking bulldozer.
Cameron actually almost picked a fight with Arnold so he could get Arnold out of playing Reese, but then Arnold expressed interest in the terminator and Cameron thought it was perfect.
I heard that Cameron was so prepared to fight Arnold about not playing Reese that when Arnold said “I don’t want to play Reese, I want to play this Terminator,” Cameron was so surprised that he almost instantly thought “this might work” Although I might be misremembering
"Seriously, where does she go?" She checks the guy, sees he's injured, and then sprints out of the club, presumably to get help. You can see her running out past the couple over Arnie's right shoulder at 9:10.
People often forget that the first terminator film was a sci-fi Horror film. The T-000 in the first film is worthy of horror icons such as Leatherface, Michael Myers and Freddy Krueger.
The factory chase scene is still creepy AF on VHS+CRT, there is much less lag from motion capture due to reduced FPS, and the original coloring blends the terminator model more realistically into the scene.
Lance Henriksen and Bill Paxton share the a similar trait. Both have had characters killed (or severely hurt) by a Terminator, a Predator, and an Alien.
I always thought in T2, Robert Patrick should have been the cop who pulled up to investigate. Then he is killed and we see him again as the terminator so that we never know what the actual liquid metal terminator looks like.
Tracking shot of it's feet as it approaches him then he groans as he falls down, the arm comes down to grab his gun then cut to Patrick as "the cop" as he looks up John Connor
Reese is a soldier from an apocalyptic future where school and a healthy life are probably non-existent, you can't expect him to be very smart. He probably just knows how terminators work because as a soldier it's his job to destroy them.
Not to mention that he knows it is only a matter of time before the terminator finds them. He is in a rush, hence why he is trying to explain it to the "authority figure" in the room. He also likely is not aware that psychologists exist since all he was taught at a young age is to survive.
17:35 Reece was in love with Sarah because he was a soldier with no hope - that pic of her allowed him some respite from the hell he was living through. He even says "I wonder what you were thinking ok when the pic was taken". She was thinking of YOU reece when the pic was taken - so sweet
The first Terminator movie still holds up, even set in the 1980s, it’s still fun to watch unlike the recent Terminator sequels which even James Cameron doesn’t like them!
@@Markimark151 You know why, right? Because 2 was the end to the series, he intended. He said so in several interviews. In fact, his original ending is set in the early 2010s, with John s a father, playing with his daughter, in a park, and Sarah watching them, with an internal monologue. On it she brings up 29 August, 1997, and the bombs not falling, and John still fighting the machines, as a congressman, using his votes to keep humans making the calls in military matters, rather than AI and machines. Test audiences hated it. That's why we got the open ending to T2. Because no one could swallow the other ending. It also led to more sequels. If you ever want to see it, look for the T2 Ultimate Edition, and select the extended version. When it comes up, use the number keys on your remote, to enter 8, 2, 9, 9, 7. It opens up the Easter egg third version, with the alternate ending. The way the theatrical cut ends, it left too many loose ends, that made more of the story need to be told.
This is my favorite horror movie of all time and the only one that actually scared me. The second one is amazing but the first one left the most impact on me
Terminator 1 can definitely be categorized as a horror film. Great action, suspense, dark atmosphere, and music sounds condemning! My favorite out of the 6 mainline films. 2 in comparison seems campy and cheesy.
One of my favorite movies. This movie was a love story. A man fell in love with a picture, so much that he was willing to leave behind everything he knew to go back in time to save her. He was willing to give up everything including his life just to keep her safe. It is beautiful.
This movie has definitely aged, but it still has the same impact as it did years ago. The scenes that are scary and suspenseful leave you on the edge of your seat. Even if the Terminator looks a bit silly now due to the effects, it's still scary and other worldly when you see it. No one could play the terminator the way Arnold does.
I feel the same way. But I do enjoy T3. I like to think of it as a non-canonical, mindless fun action flick. And it has some pretty awesome moments, if you go in treating it as just a popcorn flick.
Yeah, the terminator series has been on a infinite downhill. Btw, nice seeing you here Mark, hope everything is going well with no stress and your taking you’re time with the series.
Based on a Dream: James Cameron originally based the movie on a nightmare he had of a robot skeleton emerging from a fiery explosion and coming after him.
I honestly have to say, objectively, Dark Fate wasn't that bad of a movie when considered on its own, it was just a really bad Terminator sequel. Maybe it wouldn't have been so bad if John was still alive, even if they saved him for the next one. Some series' you can pull this crap with & it's fine. Ironically, given the subject matter, Terminator is not one of them.
I love how influenced by horror films like Carpenter's Halloween and even has a "final girl" but unlike such 80's horror her life isn't saved by NOT having sex, in fact the whole of humanity is saved by her having sex. Strangely more mature and sex-positive in that sense. Cameron's ability to "not skimp on the romance" in his action films is great
My understanding had always been that one of the T-800s legs was damaged in the explosion as to why it had that janky gait. But yeah, top notch joke hehe.
Not as funny if you're German and you know that the "ch" part is pronounced with a voiceless velar fricative - something which doesn't exist in English so it's hard to explain. Thus it might be easier for you to stick with the "ck" sound, I suppose.
Personally I like to believe that all of the sequels (excluding dark fate since its specifically set after terminator 2) are in the same timeline and that the timeline was a cycle until the events if terminator 2. From T2 onward, you have ripples in the timeline that cause changes. At first by causing judgment day to occur years later, then Skynet having access to advanced technology from its inception, and ultimately to its sending back multiple terminators and a hybrid whos mission was to have the time machine built decades earlier. Makes each subsequent movie feel like the original timeline is getting more and more screwed up by the meddling of Skynet and the resistance.
@@xscythe67 And also this: Energy cannot be added to or subtracted from a closed system. Time travel intrinsically involves subtracting an object's mass-energy from one space-time and adding it to another space-time. And more than that, objects have inherent electromagnetic, gravitational, chemical and kinetic energy involved in addition to the raw mass and energies involved in regular particle physics. And even if energy is conserved at both ends of travel, information is not. 200kg of metal and flesh would have a mass-energy of under 1,8*10^19 joules. If 100kg of matter and 100kg of antimatter were to combine, that'd be the amount of energy released from the annihilation of the two; the equivalent of 3,5 gigatons of TNT. Or 70 times more power than the strongest nuke ever detonated.
I always felt the strenght of Terminator movies is the horror effect from 1 and 2. But then it became more the action and less the doom of mankind type of effect it had
It's the only vs movie we talked about on the playground in the 90s that er haven't gotten... Freddy vs Jason, alien vs predator, godzilla vs kong(that one was already made) and batman vs Superman... If the niel blomkamp robocop isn't happening I'd rather see a robocop vs terminator movie than a sequel to either series Edit: I misread you comment and thought you where talking about robocop.. My point still stands but I realise you where talking about transformers
@@commanderjason7786 Look up Star Trek VS Transformers, Transformers/Ghostbusters, Transformers/Back to the Future, and My Little Pony/Transformers while you’re at it.
@@smithwesson1896 What? No. I said body double. As in the seen that shows hands, feet, etc. Is my dad. Basically if Arnold's face isn't being shown but say a hand is? That is my dad.
Hearing the Terminator music for the first time as a kid back in 1984.....man it just felt like a dark end of the world feel! Kinda scary at 6 years old!
"I was having a dream about dogs." First thing that came to my mind was a quote from an entirely different movie: "I love dogs. I've always loved dogs."
I've read the script for T1 a few times and those two characters were pretty interesting. Everyone was much younger as well, which made the drama hit different.
Though both Hamilton and Biehn were both 28 at the time of filming, Sarah was supposed to be a 19 year old college student/waitress, while Kyle was around 22. Hamilton had been a heavy smoker, and her voice seemed a lot deeper in Children of the Corn, released earlier than the Terminator. I wonder if they altered her voice.
I always loved the double entandre of the answering machine message WHILE the Terminator was listening! "You are talking to a machine." (well, TWO actually)
13:35 This effect ain't dated, it's supposed to be like that. In the treatment for the movie, the Terminator has miniaturized human organs, when the organs starts to fail, his skin looks more plastic.
Not per se. I watched He-Man and there was no episode that discussed economics. However, considering the sheer amount of toys that were produced, there was a Reaganomics episode in every toy store.
@@angrytheclown801 *Episode 99, ‘Hunt for He-Man’ (Originally Aired 30 October 1984):* He-Man is very weak and vulnerable after falling into a pit of poisonous tar. When a boy and his father find him, they must decide whether to help He-Man, or offer him to Skeletor in exchange for money. He-Man, Cringer and Drak (unusually implicitly) tell viewers having friends makes them richer than money can, and to resist the temptation of thinking otherwise.
I hate that most people keep saying T2 is better than T1. They're both great, but 1 will always be number 1 to me, it's so raw. The slow motion scene at the dance club where Sarah ducks away unintentionally is so iconic to me and overlooked by pop culture, it always gives me goosebumps. I also prefer alien 1 over 2, but that's another story.
Having just watched T1 and T2 for the first time…nah, T2 is way better. The first film was good, but it’s rather rough around the edges, and unlike T2 it really shows its age.
80s movies do have a certain griminess and depth to the shadows that I love. You got neon colors and whacky fashion but also a sense of cold or warm darkness depending on the setting.
Something about that slightly damp looking concrete at night just screams 80's gritty city. I also like the blue lighting themes of T2 in the city and industrial settings, seems to be more 90's somehow.
I love the back story of how this was made. Cameron’s filming permit expired and he couldn’t afford to have it extended, so he would drive Arnold around with a change of clothes. The second a scene was filmed, Arnold would jump in the car, change clothes, and drive off before police could arrive. It’s just an example of just how low budget this film was.
I read that at one point, the cops did manage to catch them filming illegally, so Cameron and his producer had to lie and say that they were graduate students from UCLA working on a class assignment.
4:46 " Arnold punches a guy..." He didn't Recognise Brian Thompson, the "guy" famous for playing Shao Khan, Night Slasher from the Stallone movie Cobra or the alien bounty hunter in X files.
That’s what I’m saying! Glad someone else noticed him. Would have been a perfect moment to bring back the “Khaaaaaan!” Joke like he did in MK Annihilation.
During the "terminator view" scenes, the code you see is assembly code for the 6502 processor. It's just snipets from larger programa. People tracked it down to an Apple II magazine.
I always think the 80sness of the first movie makes it timeless. It's a period piece as 1984 is the specific date that Skynet and the Resistance pick to go back. The other movies never actually say the date (except Salvation funnily enough)
@@tackywhale5664 I know you can work it out by John being 10 and it showing his birth year as 1985, but I did they actually say it does. I always have to mentally tell myself its set in 1995. It feels like a 1991 movie. John's friend's mullet is a testament to that
5:08 naked guy putting pants back on screams "I just did something probably illegal" which is probably why the cop started chasing him. Maybe someone heard or saw him ripping the pants off the man like he was gonna rape him and then running away?
The cops was probably investigating the murders by the terminator earlier. If someone saw the terminator without the clothes and reported it the cops could of thought that Kyle was him.
In the "I'll be back" scene, I'm surprised you didn't bring up how the incoming car is hinted at from the shine of its headlights, yet when they show the car before it hits the glass, the car's headlights aren't lit.
@@parkermartin5799 Same, just not over the top like the hocus pocus (the entire review was basically a remake of the movie instead of showing clips and having small skits) i do like the skits, but god, that review threw me off so bad
Oh. I actually like the skits and stuff. Oh well, to each his own. I love when he analyzes good movies, but not summarizing good films like Terminator because everyone's already seen this movie anyway, and because there's not much funny things to say about such a great movie. So I hope next Wednesday he does T3 or one of the bad ones. 🤣
Rob Ager at Collative Learning had some interesting commentary on that. He gave evidence for the T-800 and T-1000 developing egos the more time they spent in the human world. The script for the first film has some interesting stuff in it, while the T-1000 has his eccentricities played up a lot more in the actual film.
Coming from an 18 year old who saw this film after the second and third when I was 9, I absolutely adore this film. I find it absolutely perfect to be Frank. I love the characters, music (sucker for synthesizer music), the suspense, the action, the effects, and the story! It’s all fantastic and I prefer it much more than any of the other films. I feels way more important and hardcore too. I always loved how the Terminator dresses in the first half because he doesn’t stand out among the ridiculous outfits of the 80’s, Nothing will ever make me dislike this movie or put it below the other films
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Favorite and least favorite Terminator movie?
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Favorite: T2
Least Favorite: Salvation
“I’ll be back”
The original will always be my favorite
Favorite, Terminator 2
least is Salvation
Yea!!!!!!
I think "March of the Terminators" is a better month name, but just me. Still a good review though :D
That is a perfect name of Month of Terminator
Its terrabad
Brilliant! Absolutely Brilliant!!!
That is now my headcannon
This deserves more likes.
Fun Fact: Akira Toriyama, the creator of the Dragon Ball series, is a huge fan of western movies like Star Wars and The Terminator. And the Trunks Saga was inspired by The Terminator.
i had a feeling when i saw 16. XD
I FUCKING KNEW IT
Major Metallitron in DB basically was the Terminator.
That explains why Trunks fucked up the timeline so badly.
@@MisterX867 and Android 8 was Frankenstein.
Fun fact: Arnold initially disputed with James Cameron over saying "I'll be back" as he thought that it sounded too womanly. James Cameron told him "how about you be the actor and let me be the director?"
Arnold relented and read the line as it was written and of course it went down in pop culture history. Arnold stated that he NEVER questioned James Cameron's decision's again after that.
Except he didn't read it as written; in the shooting script it's written as "I will come back."
@@cdawgleelee9572 It's amazing how different those two lines are. The "I will come back" is so void of personality, but also very precise and literal. Very robotic.
Another fact, when Sarah was escaping with Kyle, she looked like she was in pain, and that was because Linda Hamilton was actually in pain, as she had hurt her foot before the film was even in production and it didn't heal. There was also supposed to be a whole sub-plot where the T-800 was cutting into the feet of the Sarahs to find metal screws in them to see if it found the real Sarah Conner.
Good one, thanks 🍻
The Kyle Reese death scene deserves special mention. In a lot of movies and shows, even back then, a main character dying had this sort of dramatic requirement that they would live long enough to speak some last words. Have a comforting exchange with their survivors, or even just that last meaningful look. Having a scene where one protagonist turns over the other and they're just dead is a real shock and hammers home the reality of the situation, even when that reality is filled with stop-motion robots and cheap fire effects.
Damn good observation.
Usually people like first two movies, but I accept only first "Terminator". Bad things in T2: Arnolds hair style (imagine robot, who was designed to kill people, every day make his hairstyle, to keep hair stand straight), his leather pants, his "cute" stupidity and smile ("fan service" in next films) and these phrases from previous movie like "Ill be back", "come with me, if you want to live"... T2 is very pop culture. One thing I like in T2 is Robert Patrick. I wish he was in first film as T-800 instead of Arnold (with all respect to Arnold). P.S. Btw you know this meme Chad vs Virgin? In T1 literally virgin (before he did it with Sarah Connor) Kyle Reese defeated Chad terminator. ))
Try Hellen Page in "Super"
Spoiler Sploiler Spoiler
She is celebrating hitting a bad guy when half of her head is blown off by gunfire
@@jus_sanguinis You're telling me that you don't "accept" a movie because it has some fan service in it? And then something about Virgin Vs. Chad... you're not making any sense.
@@jus_sanguinis Your ridiculous take on T2 aside, you've got it wrong: it would be Chad Kyle Reese vs Virgin Terminator. That's because when Kyle Reese had "defeated" it, he had already slept with Sarah Connor and the T 800 has never slept with anyone as it's a machine.
12:56 Dr. Emmett Brown was the only one smart enough not to do that.
“What are we gonna say, that we’re time travellers? They’d have us committed!”
He did it in Back to the Future III when he said goodbye to Clara
That's why Back to the future is the GOAT time travel film.
@@zackcross7190 And look how that worked out for him. I mean yes it worked out in the end but she still didn't believe him when he told her.
@@calebmauer1751 That’s the point I’m making
@@zackcross7190 To be fair to Doc, that was a pretty emotional moment for him. He was about to leave the woman he fell in love with behind forever so it probably didn't feel right for him to just leave her without a truthful explanation. He probably also figured he had nothing to lose as it didn't matter in the long run if she believed him or not.
1984 is easily a top contender for best year in film. We got:
The Terminator
Ghostbusters
A Nightmare On Elm Street
Indiana Jones & The Temple of DooM
The Karate Kid
Gremlins
Beverly Hills Cop
This Is Spinal Tap
Sixteen Candles
The Never Ending Story
...and the list goes on and on.
""You can't dust for vomit."
Wonder if they ever had a drummer called Sarah.
The Return Of Godzilla also came out in 1984.
Someone sure as hell likes This Is Spinal Tap
You also have back to the future the never next year.
What the fuck, never lined these movies up with their release dates, 1984 was fucking crazy.
her: he's probably with some other girl right now
nostalgia critic: hellooo fresh
@GRADY FALLERT - STUDENT can’t believe he’s cheating on em like that
HELLO FRESH
@GRADY FALLERT - STUDENT great, now I can't stop thinking about that meme where that guy is holding hands with that one woman, and looking at the other. But it's him looking at hello fresh while holding stamps.com hands
Mina?
“Does the film still hold up-“
Yes. Yes it does.
And in the current age of machinery replacing human jobs, drone warfare and scientists seeking smart AI, it really does! The more I see this movie, the more terrfying that this kind of reality is a possibility.
@@lenini056 and the MAGA morons love to vote for the people who are all for machinery replacing people, cause its always a sign of high intelligence when you have to hurrrr own da libs by voting for the people who literally could care less about you unless its election time or feed them lies about stolen elections because they know the dimmest low IQ citizens will believe it.
Now I wish NC does Blade Runner (1982). I know there are lot of people who like that movie, but when I saw it in 2017, it felt so outdated and old school. Terminator 1 (1984) however, I thought it holds quite well, but that maybe because I saw it in late 1990s (as in, nostalgia, less picky standard at that time, my age could've been a factor).
All of them do
the reboots aren’t bad movies they’re just bad terminator movies
@@aidan6471 I'll argue all day that terminator 3 is a bad movie, though I'll defend the others
Terminator 1 was a straight horror movie.
And it's glorious.
It's got to have been one of the first sci-fi stalkers
Terminator and Alien are both in the same pool of, Horror turned action that just do nothing but win.
T1 was horror, T2 was boy meets dog.
The last part used to scare the hell outta me as a kid
Well, I always thought of this film as being like a science fiction play on Halloween.
Fun fact, Bill Paxton is the only actor to ever be killed by an Alien, a Predator, and a Terminator. Also no, Bishop from Aliens doesn't count, he survived the encounter with the queen, Ripley killed him in the next movie.
Here is a piece of info I never thought I would need, but know that I have I am somehow grateful for it.
You called being pushed into a fence killed?
Of course Bishop counts, making Lance Henriksen to join the club. Otherwise one could argue Hudson was taken alive to be facehuggered and ended up dying when the planet was nuked, hence not killed by an alien either. So yeah, excluding Bishop makes no sense whatsoever.
@@CometF81 Bishop doesn't count because an alien didn't kill him. Also, as much as the game sucked, we do find Hudson's body in Colonial Marines, he lived long enough to get a chestburster.
Rip bill pullman
I love the poetic cinema with the picture of Sarah. Reese looks at it and said that he always wondered what she was thinking about in that moment, and in the end we learned that she was thinking about him. I love that
Speaking of great characters, you didn't mention my favorite character growth moment of the movie! The point where Sarah yells at Kyle "On your feet, soldier!" and manages to get him moving again - she goes from the pure damsel in distress she's been the whole movie to battle commander mode, and is suddenly someone you can legitimately believe trained her son to fight a future war. So satisfying!
If he wanted to show all good scenes this video would have been 1h48minutes
@@Jebu911 and there is really only so much they can show without getting copyright strikes.
Her character arc between this movie and T2, was awesome. She's one of my favorite heroines for sure. Sarah Connor belongs right up there with Ripley
Unlike Sonya that became the complete opposite in the first Mortal Kombat movie
...and evolves into her final form: Jacked Survivalist Sarah Connor
"James Cameron didn't believe OJ Simpson could be a convincing killer"
No joke needed.
sometimes reality really writes its own joks.
In fact, i'm of the belief, that if there is a God out there, it's a God that loves irony.
the glove didnt fit *kanye shrug*
@@MouseGoat if it's a God he or she has a sense of humor wrapped up in irony..
ᴋʀᴜᴇɢᴇʀ: _THIS... is God!_ [Indicates the ɢʟᴏᴠᴇ.]
To be fair, some of the most infamous serial killers throughout history are usually people you wouldn't suspect. Ever heard of Ed Gein? He's the guy that such films like "Texas Chainsaw Massacre", "Silence of the Lambs" and "Psycho" were based on. The guy literally killed people and wore their skin, yet nobody and i repeat NOBODY suspected him for years, which is why he got away with it. Hell, I saw a documentary on him once, where all the people that used to live with him, in the small town this all took place in, and even said they thought he was the nicest and sweetest guy they ever known. One lady even said she didn't think he could hurt a fly.
In fact, some even said in that documentary that they even allowed Ed Gein to BABYSIT their kids on multiple occasions. Kind of scary huh?
I love how well Arnie played the Terminator in this film, especially with his eyes. His eyes move first then the head would turn, like a machine scanning the area. And how he wanted to avoid blinking while shooting any firearm to even make the Terminator more believable as a emotionless, terrifying, killing machine.
...moving your eyes, and then your head is just how humans look around
@@nuberiffic Really? I normally turn my head so I'm not relying on peripheral vision while trying to get a full view of my surroundings.
@@oxtheunlikelycontemplator2682 turning your head first *is* relying on peripheral vision though.
You move your eyes first because they move quicker than your head, so the thing you want to look at is in focus.
@@nuberiffic I just checked, I always also move head. It just uncomfortable to move eyes only.
Though this movie has a few influences from an older movie. 'Westworld' (1973) with Yul Brynner as (spoiler) the killer robot.
Disagree about the Stop-Motion. I think it made this scene even more terrifying. Something about these jerky staccato-movements just gets me.
That's why in horror video games the monsters should really run at like 10 FPS whereas everything else runs at 30 or 60, makes monsters more scary when their movements aren't the same speed. Makes it more unnatural.
Man, I wish I felt the same as you. I'm with Doug. The awkwardness of the whole scene just made it feel a lot more obvious how fake the whole thing is. I couldn't take it serious.
@@Kazeromaru That's why I always picture the Necrons in Warhammer 40,000 moving in stop motion.
Plus the terminator was damaged by this point so its awkward movements have justification (though maybe some extra frames of animation per second would've been better?)
@@SakuraAvalon Really? I find the outside stop motion clunky, but once it's inside the dark factory it makes me poop my pants
Rob: "Listen, and understand! That Nostalgia Critic is out there! It can't be bargained with. It can't be reasoned with. It doesn't feel pity, or remorse, or fear. And it absolutely will not stop... ever, until he remembers your movie so they don't have to!"
Fun fact that was the original line
Made my day
So your calling the nostalgia critic muscular and well endowed or emotionless and unsocial. Because one way or another you’re coming with me
His movies rock!!
Oh wait he made 0
James Cameran later said that he had a nightmare featuring a robotic skeleton rising from a fire and that's what inspired him to make this movie and, of course, that scene.
The absolute madman
I heard he was really sick, as he was working on a Piranha sequel in Italy. I'd have horrific nightmares too.
And that scene was paid for out of his pocket because the studio wanted it to end at the truck exploding. The genesis of the story was his fever dream of a metal skeleton rising out of fire so it had to be in there to be complete
Avatar is also based on some dreams he had
I think that kyle's love for Sara makes sense because he comes from a future in which there is only violence, destruction and desolation. He spent years looking at the photo of a person from another, a better era and fell in love in a platonic way and when he met her and got along with her, he didn't need much more.
Damn man.....that shit made so much sense I never even looked at it like that
Ahhhh the romance in this just gets me so much! 🥰
I don't think he fell in love with someone from a better era, but rather, like he himself says, a legend. It'd be like someone interested in certain eras of history meeting the likes of Cleopatra, Joan of Arc, or the like, except to an even greater degree, as she's from the immediate past with a huge impact on the current world. In the future, John Conner is the hope of mankind, and Sarah is this mythic figure who had the foresight to make him that.
@@Axterix13
I like the idea it's a mixture of both.
That was the point. People were supposed to figure out that Reese loved her in a platonic way before he even met her. John purposely gave him the photo because of that. Some people just interpret that Kyle fell in love with her in just a couple of days if you don’t really pay attention.
I first saw the Terminator when I was about 10. When the Terminator lost his skin and all that was left was his skeleton I was terrified. Even at that age I knew the effects were fake but despite knowing that I was still terrified! The fakeness of the scene just makes the skeleton look more otherworldly and it was amazing. To this day I’m still kinda scared of it.
I wish the Terminator sequels after T2 explored more of the time loop and the dynamics where if Skynet doesn't exist, neither would John Connor. Both are arch-enemies but their existence depends on each other's causation.
If T2 did stop Skynet's existence:
> Skynet would never had sent the Terminator back in time
> Sarah would never had crushed the Terminator in the Cyberdyne factory
> The computer factory would never had reverse engineered the Terminator's CPU chip to create Skynet
> John Connor would never had sent Kyle Reese back in time
> Kyle Reese and Sarah Connor would never had conceived John
This would've ended both Skynet and John Connor's existence.
Those who wants to stop Judgment Day and Skynet from taking over just simply murder John Connor when he's a kid. So Skynet actually did indirectly committed suicide in T1.
the setup makes no sense, u cant use tech to go back in time and prevent the same tech to be invented. no skynet no time travel no future and no people to go back in time
The last three kind of addressed this paradox in different ways that I think would've been great if they were handled better and focused on with a bit more nuance than the spectacle of the robots fighting.
In Dark Fate, Skynet technically wins by succeeding to kill John Connor. But Skynet becomes some other self aware AI with different abilities. Which means that even though the events of T2 happened, a Skynet of some kind is inevitable, as it's a man made entity in the first place. Then even without John himself, someone will just as inevitably be brave enough to stand up, rally the people and fight back.
In Genysis, Skynet also technically wins by capturing and converting John using the time travel as a bait and switch. It used his knowledge of the future and how to win against him due to the fact that he never knew what came next. Things go tits up and the timeline gets refreshed as it corrects itself in the mind of the only (human) person that can remember both timelines. Skynet can't exist without John, so Skynet and John become one in the same.
Then there's Salvation which kind of affirms the status quo, and i know I went backwards. But I wanted to mention this one last because I loved the idea that they had in the original, and much darker script. If studio interference hadn't reared it's ugly head, John Conner was actually going to die, and Sam Worthington's character was going to take his place wearing skin modeled after his likeness. Re-contextualizing John's actual importance to the fight against Skynet and retroactively explaining how and why it was so (relatively) easy for "John" to defeat them. As a Terminator, he has all of this knowledge, in site, and access to their systems to be able to infiltrate and destroy them from the inside out. Ultimately, Skynet is the one true architect of both it's creation and destruction.... But we never got that, and I'm salty to this day about it.
Its not really a time loop tho. Its more like in LoK and MiB 3 where the current of time is so strong that even the act of travelling back into the past is part of the intended course of events
There's also the issue of John's conception as a whole. T1 is considered by some a second timeline since John and Reese met in... a Skynet prison iirc? Reese goes back in time and John is conceived , but in the timeline where they met there John's father would have to be someone else since no time travel shenanigan's would be in play yet...
That's kinda the point of T3, that judgment day is inevitable, and why I actually like that film as a closing to the trilogy, as it completes the time loop. The simple fact that John Connor and the previous terminators exist in the present guarantees that this horrific future will always occur.
I actually like the stop motion of the Terminator near the end it makes it seem more menacing obviously not human and with the previous scene of it getting blown up in the truck I still think it holds up pretty well.
It's kinda like with ED 209, the jerky movement and sudden variations in the speed of the movement makes it seem unnatural and scary.
TERMINATOR MONTH HAS OFFICIALLY BEGUN!!!
Or, in my terms, Schwarzenegger Month 2: Judgement Day
It's time.
I KNEW IT
*Termonthnator Month Month, thank you very much.
Damn. That means Critic has to watch Terminator: Dark Fate in a few days. Poor Critic :(
I don't think it's that strange that he's in love with Sarah Connor, being at how bleak everything in the depicted future is, it could make sense that a picture of her might actually appear to be the most beautiful woman he's ever seen before.
Bro he seen a picture of her and then knew her for like 2 days. That's not enough time to love someone lol
@@lovablesnowman Well considering men fall in love quicker than women, and the fact that love can literally happen in the span of 10 minutes (when I say love, I mean "lust" which most people mistake as love... love itself is more of a decision with feelings only following afterward), it makes sense lol
@@KiyoshoA love is lust for an extended period of time.
At least, the love scene is pretty sensual and romantic.....?😳🤯🤩😍
@@KiyoshoA men do not fall in love quicker at all. It's proven women love faster while men are lustful
Always loved how they portray the Terminator as this relentless killer who stops at nothing even when it is down to crawling on its torso, and then ending off being only an arm reaching out at Serah (the closest it has ever been to its goal) only to finally be crushed to death and we see the light in its eye finally going out. I always liked to imagine that every part of this machine was deadly, and that if it had gotten a grip on her in that final scene, it totally could have killed her with just that.
Although that seems to be their weakness too. In other movies and the TV show, the moment a terminator IDs John Connor (or Dani Ramos in the Dark Fate film), it just drops everything in an attempt to kill him - drawing attention to itself in the process - instead of taking that information, forming a plan (which needn't be complicated...could be as simple as going up to him, map in hand, to ask for directions), and executing it with the element of surprise.
@@Vistico93 You’re right it isn’t very tactical, but just the thought of an unstopable killing machine being after you is scary in itself I think. Kinda like that scene in Big Hero 6 where Hiro makes Baymax go berserk. Because a robot who is programmed to kill doesn’t stop for mercy or ask questions.. it does exactly what you have programmed it to. Nothing more, nothing less.
One of my favorite details was when the psychiatrist leaves Sara telling her not to worry, "there's 25 police officers in this station". As he walks right passed Arnold coming in. As a joke, I started counting how many cops he kills. They had such attention to detail that you can count each machine gun burst as a death and it adds up to almost the exact number of police officers in the station!
I also liked that they made Kyle really painfully human. The time travel hurts, he's lost, scared, and just trying to scrounge enough to keep going. He can't explain the details of time travel because he's a soldier, not a scientist, and it isn't even human tech. Michael Biehn, man. Such an underappreciated actor.
I mean considering he was born during the war he probably thought that telling facts might be good. But he probably could have been briefed better by connor to not act like a raging lunatic.
@@Jebu911 the plan probably wasn't for him to have to explain himself to authorities.
@@Jebu911 John Conner had to follow the script his mother left him or he would have endangered his own existence.
Think about it, John knows he will meet Kyle one day, has to befriend him, give him the picture and send him back in time to safe his mother, conceive Conner and die.
And all that while uniting the rest of humanity and beath themachines.
When they interrogate sarah in T2 they say 17 died
@@JohnSmith-jh6ey think it's time for a rewatch!
Re: Running a gun shop. The risk isn't keeping ammunition near the weapons, the risk is not noticing this guy isn't right, not noticing he opened a box of ammunition, turning your back on him while he has the weapon and an open box of ammunition, and being the only clerk in the store.
I have long said that the Terminator has ridiculous luck throughout the movie.
Walks into a police station dressed like a punk, asking about the attempted victim of a serial killer hours after he shot up a club, all while acting like a deranged person at best. Clerk just ignores it. Yeah, I see getting unduely lucky. "Infiltration unit" indeed. Now the T-1000? That was an infiltrator, even without the liquid metal.
TBF the movie was made and set before the 1986 FOPA, so being somewhat lax about keeping accessible guns and ammo near each other would be understandable; not to mention the racism angle as well, since both the Terminator and the clerk are white. The scene would have to go differently if OJ ended up playing the Terminator, since the clerk would be quite leery of a black man coming in and knowing what guns he wanted.
The Terminator would have just killed him anyway.
FOPA means virtually nothing. Assuming you're discussing the Hughes amendment, that only changed the manufacturing status of automatic weapons. They required additional permission and tax stamps since the NFA of 1934. They weren't really over the counter or the sort of thing you could walk out with the same day. It's one of my big bugaboos about hollywood, right after trigger discipline, you can't just walk into a store and but automatic weapons. Not today (Death Wish 2018) not in 1984 (Terminator) and not since before the second world war. It's like suppressors and SBRs today, sure you gan get them, but after the ATF has taxed you, investigated you, made you wait a year, and still demands you tell the cops if you so much as leave the house with them.
It's just annoying is all.
I laughed so hard at the Wile E Coyote Terminator bit. Just imagine the "Eep" sign read out loud in Arnold's voice.
@Jaime Cambron Always love Roadrunner jokes. Classic!
Fun fact: Arnold Schwarzenegger's famous line, "I'll be back," was originally scripted as "I'll come back."
I thought he was supposed to say “I will be back” rather than “I’ll be back” and argued with James Cameron about it.
that's a good fact.
@@paulmccarthy1527 Other way around. He had trouble with the contraction, and didn't want to say it.
Did it have to do with his accent?
If Arnold actually said "I'll come back", then FNAF's similar line will seem more like stealing.
FNAF- "I always come back."
"Finally, some good f*cking movies."
-Nostalgia Ramsay
This deserves more likes lol
Well, two. Two good movies.
Fucking Wrong!!!
@@Einar730 how?
12:41
To me, it makes perfect sense. Kyle Reese grew up after the machines had risen, so he never really was interviewed before nor had to lie to get something. He just grew up in a ‘try not to die, shoot first’ world. So it makes a little sense to me at least.
The first one is good, very good. I like that The Terminator in this one is actually scary and unstoppable. The story is pretty basic, but the action makes up for it. The police station massacre is legendary today.
SCHWARZENEGGER was not the profiled actor back then we know from later years. I mean look we had there an Austrian " Muscle Mountain ", Mister Universe from the competition in Munich 1973 who wanted to come out big in the USA without much acting knowledge from start. So it is no wonder the man came over here just like some walking bulldozer.
Cameron actually almost picked a fight with Arnold so he could get Arnold out of playing Reese, but then Arnold expressed interest in the terminator and Cameron thought it was perfect.
I heard that Cameron was so prepared to fight Arnold about not playing Reese that when Arnold said “I don’t want to play Reese, I want to play this Terminator,” Cameron was so surprised that he almost instantly thought “this might work”
Although I might be misremembering
@@KairuHakubi Robert Patrick did that well in T2: Judgment Day. I found him more sinister than Arnold, and Arnold was a machine!
"Seriously, where does she go?"
She checks the guy, sees he's injured, and then sprints out of the club, presumably to get help. You can see her running out past the couple over Arnie's right shoulder at 9:10.
The Walkers are unironically stupid.
@@justtime6736 you ain't wrong, in fairness
Honestly, the scene where Sarah and Kyle struggle to shut the door as the Terminator comes at them still gets me so tense and I love it for that.
Rip Bill Paxton
The only actor to be killed by a Terminator, Predator and a Alien.
Wellllll...The first one at least. Lance there got the hat trick too, more or less.
And I’m not sure if ‘thrown into fence roughly’ is a fatal move.
Great on Agents Of Shield and they had his son play a younger version of his character
People often forget that the first terminator film was a sci-fi Horror film.
The T-000 in the first film is worthy of horror icons such as Leatherface, Michael Myers and Freddy Krueger.
It's because of the stabbing, isn't it?
T-100?
“I am looking for Doug Walker, I was told he was here, could I see him please?”
No, you can’t see him he’s making a review.
“I’ll be back”
'No, afraid not. He's making a statement.
He's still apologizing for that Let's Play of Bart's Nightmare 13 years later.'
MK Scorpion: “You have your own movie?”
Terminator: “Affirmative😎”
Spawn: “Wow, lucky you.”
well scorpion will get his soon enough lol
@@b.s.productions4575 Didn't he already?
@@dastvan8002 if you mean those 2 where he was an insignificant jobber than technically yes lol
@@b.s.productions4575 I think he refers to
Mortal Kombat Legends: Scorpion's Revenge
@@azartoth9825 ohhhhh lol than yeah he has
The factory chase scene is still creepy AF on VHS+CRT, there is much less lag from motion capture due to reduced FPS, and the original coloring blends the terminator model more realistically into the scene.
I'll be back... for Terminator 2: Judgement Day.
Can’t wait for that to come next week! There will be tons of praise to heap upon it & Im sure some interesting nitpicks
@@LucyLioness100 hope he covers the extended Special Edition of T2
Hasta La Baby Vista... Hasta La... Hasta La...
@@LucyLioness100 I suspect most of those nitpicks will be directed towards Edward Furlong's hit-or-miss performance.
Lance Henriksen and Bill Paxton share the a similar trait. Both have had characters killed (or severely hurt) by a Terminator, a Predator, and an Alien.
I think you mean Lance Henriksen
I always thought in T2, Robert Patrick should have been the cop who pulled up to investigate. Then he is killed and we see him again as the terminator so that we never know what the actual liquid metal terminator looks like.
Tracking shot of it's feet as it approaches him then he groans as he falls down, the arm comes down to grab his gun then cut to Patrick as "the cop" as he looks up John Connor
@@smithwesson1896 So in a sense, then yes, the cop could very well have been impersonated by the T-1000.
@@daigneauray7087 Think that would have been an even better reveal?
@@smithwesson1896 Tough question. I honestly don't think I would feel any different knowing exactly why the T-1000 looks like Robert Patrick.
Reese is a soldier from an apocalyptic future where school and a healthy life are probably non-existent, you can't expect him to be very smart. He probably just knows how terminators work because as a soldier it's his job to destroy them.
Not to mention that he knows it is only a matter of time before the terminator finds them. He is in a rush, hence why he is trying to explain it to the "authority figure" in the room. He also likely is not aware that psychologists exist since all he was taught at a young age is to survive.
17:35 Reece was in love with Sarah because he was a soldier with no hope - that pic of her allowed him some respite from the hell he was living through. He even says "I wonder what you were thinking ok when the pic was taken". She was thinking of YOU reece when the pic was taken - so sweet
I love the music in The Terminator. Frantic, futuristic and catchy as hell!
My prediction this month:
Week 2: judgment day
Week 3: rise of the machines
Week 4: salvation
Week 5: Genesis
In the twitch channel they said that like the spider month and the Star Trek moth they're gonna cheat too and reviewing dark fate in Aprils first week
You forgot Rise of the Machines.
Yeah, It's easy to forget it was a thing....
@@Eccegato I actually like Rise of the Machines.
What about Dark Fate
@@Eccegato he can’t fit all films in one months
"It's like they're getting their clothes at the Goodwill for the Goodwill"
This is immediately one of your best jokes, guys.
You can find some awesome stuff at the goodwill.
It's where I found my green trenchcoat. GREEN!
@@clownymoosebean I actually found a coat exactly like Reese’s at an army surplus store once
Man, when I first saw this as a kid, the metal skeleton really freaked me out. Especially when it was crawling toward her and wouldn't die.
The first Terminator movie still holds up, even set in the 1980s, it’s still fun to watch unlike the recent Terminator sequels which even James Cameron doesn’t like them!
Even Terminator 2?
Didn't he produce Dark Fate?
@@Recidivous he liked T2, he hated the later sequels.
@@louisduarte8763 You can make something and still not like the end product.
@@Markimark151 You know why, right?
Because 2 was the end to the series, he intended. He said so in several interviews. In fact, his original ending is set in the early 2010s, with John s a father, playing with his daughter, in a park, and Sarah watching them, with an internal monologue.
On it she brings up 29 August, 1997, and the bombs not falling, and John still fighting the machines, as a congressman, using his votes to keep humans making the calls in military matters, rather than AI and machines.
Test audiences hated it. That's why we got the open ending to T2. Because no one could swallow the other ending. It also led to more sequels.
If you ever want to see it, look for the T2 Ultimate Edition, and select the extended version. When it comes up, use the number keys on your remote, to enter 8, 2, 9, 9, 7. It opens up the Easter egg third version, with the alternate ending.
The way the theatrical cut ends, it left too many loose ends, that made more of the story need to be told.
"Seriously, where did she go?" Probably to help the guy on the floor with a crushed hand.
Yeah, I was wondering how he missed that too.
15:00 "What´s on TV?" "It´s always fire!" "Meh, season 1 was better."
The spin off "Charred wood" was a bit rubbish. No heat.
"nice screensaver"
This is my favorite horror movie of all time and the only one that actually scared me. The second one is amazing but the first one left the most impact on me
Hmm, I never realized that this could be a horror movie, but when you hear the description of the terminator it surprisingly works
Terminator 1 can definitely be categorized as a horror film. Great action, suspense, dark atmosphere, and music sounds condemning! My favorite out of the 6 mainline films. 2 in comparison seems campy and cheesy.
@@dredskl It's a weird hybrid: a horror/sci fi/action/drama film.
@@RandalfElVikingo reminds me of alien
As a kid who saw this when I was 9 and raised in horror.. this movie was freaking awesome.
"Machine needs love too" - unexpected dark forshadowing to Dark Fate.
Agent Smith: Cookies need love like everything does.
@@robbieking4070 I thought of exactly that too. Nice.
One of my favorite movies. This movie was a love story. A man fell in love with a picture, so much that he was willing to leave behind everything he knew to go back in time to save her. He was willing to give up everything including his life just to keep her safe. It is beautiful.
Remember when Hollywood made good movies? I don't even care about original, i just want well written.
No, when was that? Be specific.
@@lordtrigon1733 hmm the 80’s.
Pepperidge Farms remembers.
They're too busy doing endless remakes to make good movies nowadays
They're still around they're just rarer, but compared to the golden age of the 80's yeah it's a shocking downgrade.
This movie has definitely aged, but it still has the same impact as it did years ago. The scenes that are scary and suspenseful leave you on the edge of your seat. Even if the Terminator looks a bit silly now due to the effects, it's still scary and other worldly when you see it. No one could play the terminator the way Arnold does.
How many times do you get to be the most legendary bad guy in a franchise an the most legendary good guy in a franchise
Only Arnold can do that
Mark Hamill. Hes luke skywalker... and Joker....
Only a script can do that..
I honestly love the stop motion effects at the end. it gives the Terminator such an unnerving and otherworldly look
The original Terminator is by far one of my favorite movies/franchises of all time. Especially the second one.
The franchise ended after T2. The rest can burn in Hell.
Agreed
I feel the same way. But I do enjoy T3. I like to think of it as a non-canonical, mindless fun action flick. And it has some pretty awesome moments, if you go in treating it as just a popcorn flick.
@@SakuraAvalon the female terminator was smokin
Periodt.
Yeah, the terminator series has been on a infinite downhill. Btw, nice seeing you here Mark, hope everything is going well with no stress and your taking you’re time with the series.
Based on a Dream: James Cameron originally based the movie on a nightmare he had of a robot skeleton emerging from a fiery explosion and coming after him.
Till become sjw robot action rather than true horror and apocalyptic war like in salvation
Harlan Ellison® begs to differ.
Did you steal that from TV Tropes?!?
I honestly have to say, objectively, Dark Fate wasn't that bad of a movie when considered on its own, it was just a really bad Terminator sequel. Maybe it wouldn't have been so bad if John was still alive, even if they saved him for the next one. Some series' you can pull this crap with & it's fine. Ironically, given the subject matter, Terminator is not one of them.
jeez, you think that people would catch on that late night snacking can increase probability of nightmares, least something great came out of that.
I agree, the first two Terminator movies were great and icons in the film industry.
Looking forward to Terminator 2.
I love how influenced by horror films like Carpenter's Halloween and even has a "final girl" but unlike such 80's horror her life isn't saved by NOT having sex, in fact the whole of humanity is saved by her having sex. Strangely more mature and sex-positive in that sense. Cameron's ability to "not skimp on the romance" in his action films is great
"The stop motion looks like Jack Skellington just discovered eggnog”
I laughed
My understanding had always been that one of the T-800s legs was damaged in the explosion as to why it had that janky gait.
But yeah, top notch joke hehe.
He's clearly damaged and limping, as is shown in the closeup at 18:44.
The mediums of the life sized model look really good
@@josephperez2004 It was already damaged when it got ran over by the truck
@@StirbMensch Ahh, okay. Been awhile since I've seen it.
When someone wants to be a musician: "I'll be Bach!"
Yo, thank God, someone else who makes a Bach joke😂
Wasn’t that from that one bo Burnham vine
I don't know that he could Handel it
"Where can I find Toccata and Fugue in D Minor?"
"Aisle B, Bach."
Not as funny if you're German and you know that the "ch" part is pronounced with a voiceless velar fricative - something which doesn't exist in English so it's hard to explain. Thus it might be easier for you to stick with the "ck" sound, I suppose.
"One possible future."
That's the only reason the sequels exist.
Personally I like to believe that all of the sequels (excluding dark fate since its specifically set after terminator 2) are in the same timeline and that the timeline was a cycle until the events if terminator 2.
From T2 onward, you have ripples in the timeline that cause changes. At first by causing judgment day to occur years later, then Skynet having access to advanced technology from its inception, and ultimately to its sending back multiple terminators and a hybrid whos mission was to have the time machine built decades earlier.
Makes each subsequent movie feel like the original timeline is getting more and more screwed up by the meddling of Skynet and the resistance.
What sequels? They didn't make anymore after T2. 😉
Namely the butterfly effect, something that most people try to ignore.
@@xscythe67 And also this: Energy cannot be added to or subtracted from a closed system. Time travel intrinsically involves subtracting an object's mass-energy from one space-time and adding it to another space-time. And more than that, objects have inherent electromagnetic, gravitational, chemical and kinetic energy involved in addition to the raw mass and energies involved in regular particle physics. And even if energy is conserved at both ends of travel, information is not.
200kg of metal and flesh would have a mass-energy of under 1,8*10^19 joules. If 100kg of matter and 100kg of antimatter were to combine, that'd be the amount of energy released from the annihilation of the two; the equivalent of 3,5 gigatons of TNT. Or 70 times more power than the strongest nuke ever detonated.
I always felt the strenght of Terminator movies is the horror effect from 1 and 2. But then it became more the action and less the doom of mankind type of effect it had
Oh this is good timing, I was just reading Terminator VS Transformers. And yes that is a real thing, and yes it’s actually very enjoyable.
It's the only vs movie we talked about on the playground in the 90s that er haven't gotten... Freddy vs Jason, alien vs predator, godzilla vs kong(that one was already made) and batman vs Superman... If the niel blomkamp robocop isn't happening I'd rather see a robocop vs terminator movie than a sequel to either series
Edit: I misread you comment and thought you where talking about robocop.. My point still stands but I realise you where talking about transformers
I NEED TO LOOK THIS UP ASAP.
@@commanderjason7786 Look up Star Trek VS Transformers, Transformers/Ghostbusters, Transformers/Back to the Future, and My Little Pony/Transformers while you’re at it.
Fun fact. My father was Arnold's body double for the first two Terminator movies. If anyone would like pictures. Let me know how to upload them here.
That would be amazing. Bet your proud of him.
Peter Kent is your dad?
That would be awesome! but what do you mean as in upload here? You can't post pictures in the comments section but I wish you could.
@@smithwesson1896 What? No. I said body double. As in the seen that shows hands, feet, etc. Is my dad. Basically if Arnold's face isn't being shown but say a hand is? That is my dad.
@@saphirawinters7028 I thought you meant a stunt double, sorry. Still that's cool that he worked on these movies
Hearing the Terminator music for the first time as a kid back in 1984.....man it just felt like a dark end of the world feel! Kinda scary at 6 years old!
I was 7 when I first saw it. It's still my fav scifi... lol
"I was having a dream about dogs."
First thing that came to my mind was a quote from an entirely different movie:
"I love dogs. I've always loved dogs."
Still lmao because of her groaning about it in that movie X’D
I love caravans more
Same here.
Immediately followed by “Shut up Meg”
Always respected the boyfriend for lasting as long as he did against the terminator.
I've read the script for T1 a few times and those two characters were pretty interesting. Everyone was much younger as well, which made the drama hit different.
Though both Hamilton and Biehn were both 28 at the time of filming, Sarah was supposed to be a 19 year old college student/waitress, while Kyle was around 22. Hamilton had been a heavy smoker, and her voice seemed a lot deeper in Children of the Corn, released earlier than the Terminator. I wonder if they altered her voice.
I always loved the double entandre of the answering machine message WHILE the Terminator was listening!
"You are talking to a machine." (well, TWO actually)
13:35 This effect ain't dated, it's supposed to be like that. In the treatment for the movie, the Terminator has miniaturized human organs, when the organs starts to fail, his skin looks more plastic.
This is probably the lamest attempt at defending a shitty effect that I've ever seen.
That's bullshit. Everyone knows he can restore those organ's functions with Swedish chocolate wafers.
“Reaganomics episode of he-man”
Wait was that real? Was that a real thing?!
Not per se. I watched He-Man and there was no episode that discussed economics. However, considering the sheer amount of toys that were produced, there was a Reaganomics episode in every toy store.
‘I am Adam Smith, Priggish Edinburghian and Defender of the Ethos of the Capitalist _Beau Idéal’_
@@angrytheclown801 *Episode 99, ‘Hunt for He-Man’ (Originally Aired 30 October 1984):* He-Man is very weak and vulnerable after falling into a pit of poisonous tar. When a boy and his father find him, they must decide whether to help He-Man, or offer him to Skeletor in exchange for money. He-Man, Cringer and Drak (unusually implicitly) tell viewers having friends makes them richer than money can, and to resist the temptation of thinking otherwise.
@@bryangarcia5599 Ok, it has been so long, easy to forget an episode. Thanks for the clarification.
@@angrytheclown801 I remember it so you don’t have to.
I hate that most people keep saying T2 is better than T1. They're both great, but 1 will always be number 1 to me, it's so raw. The slow motion scene at the dance club where Sarah ducks away unintentionally is so iconic to me and overlooked by pop culture, it always gives me goosebumps. I also prefer alien 1 over 2, but that's another story.
Having just watched T1 and T2 for the first time…nah, T2 is way better. The first film was good, but it’s rather rough around the edges, and unlike T2 it really shows its age.
80s movies do have a certain griminess and depth to the shadows that I love. You got neon colors and whacky fashion but also a sense of cold or warm darkness depending on the setting.
Something about that slightly damp looking concrete at night just screams 80's gritty city.
I also like the blue lighting themes of T2 in the city and industrial settings, seems to be more 90's somehow.
I added this video to my 'Watch Later' and then clicked off the video, but don't worry...
*I'LL BE BACK*
Then how are you commenting?
I love the back story of how this was made. Cameron’s filming permit expired and he couldn’t afford to have it extended, so he would drive Arnold around with a change of clothes. The second a scene was filmed, Arnold would jump in the car, change clothes, and drive off before police could arrive. It’s just an example of just how low budget this film was.
I read that at one point, the cops did manage to catch them filming illegally, so Cameron and his producer had to lie and say that they were graduate students from UCLA working on a class assignment.
It's like "The Matrix", but the Nostalgia Critic likes it!
My name could have been there too lol
it is not, Matrix too pretensios and show-off.
Terminator is better than the matrix IMO
John Wick is more like The Matrix.
But way better and cooler.
"Let's call it a draw" from Holy Grail when the Terminator got crushed was spot on. He'll be back.
4:46 " Arnold punches a guy..." He didn't Recognise Brian Thompson, the "guy" famous for playing Shao Khan, Night Slasher from the Stallone movie Cobra or the alien bounty hunter in X files.
That’s what I’m saying! Glad someone else noticed him. Would have been a perfect moment to bring back the “Khaaaaaan!” Joke like he did in MK Annihilation.
9:10 “where did she go?”
You can faintly see her running to the left
You really took the high road with that OJ joke, didn't you?
I don't know whether to be impressed or disappointed. 😅
The jokes been done to death
@@peterfarrabuhk123 BADUM-TSSsssh
During the "terminator view" scenes, the code you see is assembly code for the 6502 processor.
It's just snipets from larger programa. People tracked it down to an Apple II magazine.
Well, maybe Skynet built their robots with components from Apple II SE computers??
"See you in gremlins"
Foreshadowing?
I always think the 80sness of the first movie makes it timeless. It's a period piece as 1984 is the specific date that Skynet and the Resistance pick to go back. The other movies never actually say the date (except Salvation funnily enough)
They actually do explicitly state in the second film that the date of which that film is set in is 1995.
@@tackywhale5664 I know you can work it out by John being 10 and it showing his birth year as 1985, but I did they actually say it does. I always have to mentally tell myself its set in 1995. It feels like a 1991 movie. John's friend's mullet is a testament to that
Finally, a classic style nostalgia critic review.
No cgi
No unessecary extras
No filler
Just pure classic Critic.
Keep them coming!
“He says that there’s a storm coming in.”
*NC: It’s the Box Office returns for Dark Fate!* 😂
And it's well-deserved too.
@@JStryker47 nope. dark fate was awesome
@@JStryker47 aside from the beginning Dark Fate was very well done
Nah its Terminator 2 Judgement day
@@Zireael83 dark fate crapped on the entire legacy of T2 while shamelessly ripping it off. I hated it and its the worst Terminator movie.
5:08 naked guy putting pants back on screams "I just did something probably illegal" which is probably why the cop started chasing him.
Maybe someone heard or saw him ripping the pants off the man like he was gonna rape him and then running away?
The cops was probably investigating the murders by the terminator earlier. If someone saw the terminator without the clothes and reported it the cops could of thought that Kyle was him.
In the "I'll be back" scene, I'm surprised you didn't bring up how the incoming car is hinted at from the shine of its headlights, yet when they show the car before it hits the glass, the car's headlights aren't lit.
Psycho, Terminator, The Thing, and Silence Of The Lambs heavily influenced the Resident Evil video games.
Like the tyrant from re2 makes the game scary
I've got homework to do, saving this video to "Watch Later"
I'll be back...
It's a look that says 'I should be helping a starship find whales'.
HELLO FRESH is the SKYNET of food service.
It sent a kitchen gadget back in time to slay you?
To me THIS is my favorite type of NC reviews, the NC just reviewing (no acting out the movie).
I like both
@@parkermartin5799 Same, just not over the top like the hocus pocus (the entire review was basically a remake of the movie instead of showing clips and having small skits) i do like the skits, but god, that review threw me off so bad
Oh. I actually like the skits and stuff. Oh well, to each his own.
I love when he analyzes good movies, but not summarizing good films like Terminator because everyone's already seen this movie anyway, and because there's not much funny things to say about such a great movie. So I hope next Wednesday he does T3 or one of the bad ones. 🤣
@@parkermartin5799 i don't
@@sonnic1995 Yes, he didn't use clips in those because of copyright issues.
15:01 man, Amazon really took the fire TV thing literally for the next version.
You know, I actually like the bad special effects for the Terminator head. It serves as kind of a reminder that this thing isn't human.
It's funny how after Arnold puts the glasses on for the first time, he feels like fixing his hair before leaving.
Rob Ager at Collative Learning had some interesting commentary on that. He gave evidence for the T-800 and T-1000 developing egos the more time they spent in the human world. The script for the first film has some interesting stuff in it, while the T-1000 has his eccentricities played up a lot more in the actual film.
@@12ealDealOfficial that explains why the one Terminator became Carl in "Dark Fate"
Coming from an 18 year old who saw this film after the second and third when I was 9, I absolutely adore this film. I find it absolutely perfect to be Frank. I love the characters, music (sucker for synthesizer music), the suspense, the action, the effects, and the story! It’s all fantastic and I prefer it much more than any of the other films. I feels way more important and hardcore too. I always loved how the Terminator dresses in the first half because he doesn’t stand out among the ridiculous outfits of the 80’s, Nothing will ever make me dislike this movie or put it below the other films