Hi, sound is getting suppressed when using Atem mini pro. For example, keyboard volume is getting suppressed when choir volume is clear and vice Versa. Is there any setting which I should adjust? We are using mixer board to connect ATEM
What would be the best recommended mixer for podcast feed to the atem mini extreme iso? I’m increasing my capacity on my podcast from 4 seats to 6-8 seats, so I’m upgrading my atem mini iso pro to the atem mini extreme iso, but need to increase my microphone capacity from 4 to 8. I’ve been using a Rode Podcaster II, but it’s only good for 4 mics. What do you reccomend?
WOW.. This is the video I've been looking for. I've been doing my research into the Atem and the issues of audio delay has been a known issue. However no one has suggested that in the Atem software there is feature to delay the audio. OMG Because of this video I'm going to purchase one.. Thank you..
Phenomenal channel and content my dude !! So I had an atem hum. Turns out you just have to go into ATM settings and set the input to line. It's on mic by default
Thank you for the awesome video! I am trying to set up my Atem Mini for live streaming. I did have one question.... If you are using the headphone port from the mixing board is there a still a way to check the audio signal that you are sending?
Needed this tonight after struggling for days with my mini pro. I run my keyboard and vocals through a Tascam DP24. Is it possible to do what you explained and that way my playing and singing will match up at the same time? I love my DP and the power and editing I can do for a finished product before sending live, or in this case, sending to the mini pro for streaming or recording. Thanks for your expertise.
Watched this again after arduous days and muffled audio in my mini pro. I have this cable on order and hope to run as said. I'm hoping the audio and video together, through my zoom q8 will work through this cable.
Re: Mixer output to Atem Mini. We use a Alesis 12R, at our church, and can't use the headphone jack for Atem Mic in. I'm using the Aux out / Main out, and turning the Atem mic input quite low, so I don't overdrive the input. I believe I should set the ATEM for "LINE" input. Is there anyway to configure the ATEM, to remember where the input level is set (input stage gain setting), so I don't have to constantly adjust?
I have experienced that the 3.5mm inputs on the atem are quite noisy compared when I run sound via inputs on my cameras. Or does that have to do with mismatched impedances?
thanks for this video. BM updated the Atem software adding a "Microphone+Plug in power (normal)" to the the setting menu, for which mics is it for? and it looks like your meters are clipping on 3:27 but no distortion on you voice...how come? Thanks
I bought that device to eliminate the hum, and it did absolutely nothing. It’s so frustrating. I bought two different high-quality cables, I’m using a left and right out from the back and running that into the Atem. Any other suggestions? Where can I edit this “within the software“?
I have a Behringer X1222 with the 1/4 headphone jack plugged into the 1/8 Atem Mini Iso Pro (mic one), however, the sound is only solid through the left side. I can hear through the left but it is very faint. Can you help me understand why?
thanks for the helpful video! i will be streaming live music via 4 different cameras in four different areas of the studio. all the music will be fed into my model 12. i was wondering: 1) since the cameras will only be for visual purposes, do i need to go the iso route? 2) any advantage, from a STRICTLY audio standpoint, to go with extreme rather than pro? or should i just go with a regular old atem mini and broadcast from my computer rather than directly from the pro or extreme? thanks again!
Is there a less substantial board you recommend that is less expensive than the Tascam 12? I just have 2 XLR lines running Sure MV7s, I don’t need so many channels. Thanks in advance!
Hi, quick question… I have the cable you’re using, and it’s connected between the Rode Podcaster II and the ATEM MINI PRO ISO and it is only picking up the left channel. If I partially unplug the 3.5mm end of the cable, it will occasionally balance, but it is unstable and unreliable. Do you know why, and how I would correct it?
Hey brother. Im outputting from main output XLR from A&H qu sb mixer to the atem 3.5mm jack line level. I have sound working perfectly on my laptop and new mobile phones. Older phones I get no sound from RUclips streams whatsoever. Any advice how to overcome this?
Is the mic input on the atem mono or stereo? If mono, will you not have to use both mic inputs, hard-panned left/right to not loose the stereo image coming in from the mixer?
Great video Brian. A quick question, pretty sure I know the answer, but want to double check with a pro. Have just purchased the Apollo Twin X. Going to plug the Thunderbolt 3 cable into my Mac Studio, and then run a line from the Apollo directly into my ATEM Mini Pro ISO. Essentially I won't be using the Mac other than for configuring my audio settings in the Apollo. I am wanting to record all my video and audio directly into the ATEM. By recording my audio via the Apollo and feeding directly into the ATEM I am getting the benefit of pre-processing my audio for recording and live-streaming, and also ultimately covering my audio and video into one single device i.e. the ATEM. Does all that sound ok Brian? Thanks in advance.
Yes. You have independent on/off control over the 2 Mic inputs and the 4 Cam inputs (audio arriving as part of the HDMI signal). You can also have "audio follow video" - that is, audio from a cam is enabled only when that cam is the "live" program output.
Hello Bryan Thanks for this video. What is the distance that this set up can handle? Do you think that I will be able to mke this set up when my mixer is far from my Atem mini. More than 25 ft fo example.
This also works well for Multicam ? I have 4 cams , doing Drum cover Videos. I have a music track running into a track, my voice into a track and I submix the drum kit and my voice , so I see you take the headphone out into the ATEM MINI PRO ISO . How do I set the ATEM to use the audio I’m sending from mixer for the multicam project and NOT use ANY CAMERA AUDIO ? Thanks
This is so annoying LOL... now I have to figure out if I want to buy one of these ground Loopers just to use with my ZOOM podtrack or buy 2 for when I record 2 mics plugged directly into the ATEM! I just bought 4 Rode XLR+ adapters for plug-in power at $20 each! 🤦🏾♂️
@@AudioforContentCreators A headphone output is not line level, it is powered by an amplifier. While it can be made to work, be assured, you won’t see this being done anywhere, or being taught at college.
no no no you should not put headphone out signal into mic/line input of the Atem. The lowest signal is a microphpne signal, then a line signal and then much louder (stronger) signal is the headphone out signal. It can be done but the chance you damage your atem input is too real to do this. And defenattely NOT set the volume control of the headphone out to 3 o'clock to start with. IF you must use this method then FIRST go in the atem software and set the input to LINE (standard it is set to MICROPHONE). Then turn the headphone volume of the your mixer all the way down to zero. Then connect the mixer to the Atem and start sending music and only then very slowly turn your volume knob away from off. Still I would never recommend this way of connection a mixer to the Atem.
Thanks for the advice! For what it's worth, the ATEM input IS set to line, which I explained and demoed in the video. And the way I came to 3 o'clock was by starting at 0 and turning up until my input level on the ATEM never exceeded -6 db, to give myself plenty of headroom. And you're right, I should have explained that here, which I didn't. I'll add that process to a follow-up video on this topic. Of course as others have noted, you can go from a proper line level like Aux or Sub, but in my specific case, neither is available for a permanent setup. And since this video was meant to be a general instruction (featuring Model 12 but not exclusive to it), I demonstrated the headphone jack technique. Which is exactly what you'd do if you had the Rodecaster Pro or a smaller mixer with less outs. As engineers at Sweetwater and elsewhere have confirmed, there is no serious risk of damaging a line level input with a headphone output. It's about volts, not gain. No, it won't be the cleanest possible signal (although in this case, it is squeaky clean). No, it's not the "proper" method. But it works, and it works well. Just mind your gain staging like any other input source.
This works PERFECT. I could not find a solution until your video. Thanks so much. I run all my instruments, and vocals through my Tascam DP24. I was not able to get but garbled audio. NOW, this simple cable is to my mic 1 input (line enabled) has allowed for perfect audio. I had to change my Zoom Q8 setting to 'MOV' only, so video and audio is separated. The Zoom simply goes in HDMI 1. ALSO, I use a splitter on the headphone jack and monitor through cans - so sweet. Can't thank you enough.
Hi Brian I note you still have this video public. I am back to call you out on it! While I did not expect you to delete it when I first committed, I imagined you would do do some research to check if you are correct. Perhaps you might of gone back to whoever had trained you as a sound engineer to ask them. This tutorial is wrong! Should any of the viewers connect with the headphone volume at full they will damage their equipment and void their warranty.
Hi Frankie! You'll notice I specifically instructed viewers not to connect with the headphone volume at full, but at 3/4 in order to avoid precisely this problem. Appreciate your concern on behalf of me and my viewers. Thanks for checking back in. What are you working on these days?
I’m terribly confused with all this audio stuff, but you explained it really well. I do have a couple of questions 1. How are you monitoring your audio if the ATEM has commandeered the headphone jack and 2. Will the ATEM handle 48v phantom power? Thanks so much, keep ‘em coming. I’m learning 😊
I have the same question as the ATEM Mini Pro does not have a headphone jack for monitoring. Phantom Power only required fro the XLR condenser mic right? That can be handled by the mixer?
Thanks!! This is great. I'm going to be trying to use the Mixcast 4 to ATEM Mini Pro, then to server/online, and finally to a TV channel. The TV station only wants an SD resolution signal, like below 480 for sure. I'm semi-confident with the online/live streaming aspect. So basically, I'm a videographer with a decent amount of audio knowledge who is learning trial-by-fire style. Any recommendations??? Thanks!!! Btw; I plan on using the ATEM for all of our programming, will it be enough?
I'm surprised this works. Headphones on mixers are not line level but headphone level and have a different impedance because they are driving such small speakers that are in the headsets. I usually run through a DI Box or interface between a mixer and a 3.5 port. I'm trying to either achieve line level or mic level depending on if it's leaving the mixer or coming into the mixer. My guess is that the ATEM is basically pre-amping the signal and cleaning the signal as the headphone signal would need to be boosted. Headphone outs are also prone to slight noise when doing this as well. Would it technically be better to run from an aux out or two aux outs into a Radial Pro or something like that which would convert the signal to stereo and allow you to adjust the level?
Help please! I’m trying this the the headphone out of my apollo x8p, apollo twin, even my turntable mixer I’ve tried this and I have a low buzzing sound
Brian: Thanks for the tip to send the mixer output to the ATEM Mini Pro. However, I am currently sending the headphone out to my Berhinger multi-headphone splitter. Do you see any issue if I use a 1/4 inch TRS male to a TRS 1/4 inch dual female Y splitter (out of my mixer), sending one stereo signal to the ATEM mic 1 input (via the cable you recommended) and one to the headphone splitter? Hank
Great question, Hank. The better way would be to send it to your multi-headphone splitter, then send one of those headphone outs to the ATEM Mini, using the method in this video. Unless you need all 4 headphone outs in the headphone mixer.
Very helpful video. Just a one questions for now..... Would the aux out 1/4" jacks work as well as the headphone out? Thanks. (Behringer 1204 USB mixer. No FX)
Nice video. Wish this would work for me, but I need that headphone jack in my setup for Rude/Solo previews during a show... so no dice for me. That said -- love the quality of your video content!
Thank you for your information concerning the noise. I bought the little cable that you use and after no noise. I write to you from my Charlesbourg'studio, Quebec.
Hello Brian, have you tried sending a stereo mix instead of headphones mix? understand that headphone mix is unbalanced connection and a stereo mix mix from your Tascam can a balanced matrix output. Also wanting to know if the Mic/Line input is balanced or unbalanced connection if the Line option is checked? Lastly thank you for your video.
Why to connect a console's headphones jack output and not a group output, an AUX output or a tape output (these use balanced female jacks or RCAs) on your ATEM MINI PRO instead? The signal provided from these outputs is 0 - 6db max (depending on the type of outputs you use). The headphones output (on the other hand) is very high, if you're not careful enough you can easily damage the input of your video switcher very easily. That's why the tech-services around the world are very busy. Nobody follows rules..
In this setup... where are you putting your 'monitoring headphones' I suppose since im trying to hook up my Presonus AudioBox to the ATEM that I wondered how Id monitor ? Prob a dumb question. Would it be my computer.. OR since Im ALSO running the ATEM into my yolo box... The yolo has headphone jack.. that prob solves the issues.. Forgive me, Im new
Great content, exactly what I was searching for. One addition I can't figure out (if possible at all): Is it possible to get separated audio tracks from multiple mics connected to my mixer->mic 1 on Atem Extreme recording?
I am curious if i can connect the Mini Pro to Apollo Twin UAD/Logic Daw to capture the sound with mics..apollo has two send out puts on the back .. it would be great to see videos of how to use a audio interface many of us musicians have, with this switcher.
hey my mixer doesn't have headphones, but i have something like rec out, is something close to headphone, mixer send the sound out for rec, i bought a cable with red and black(left/right) and i hope i will receive sound from mixer to atem mini, i want to ask you if the cable is good, is a cfy 6 wcc short split with 2x plug side player to mixer, i hope i write good, if you search on google that name you will find the cable :)
Hi Brian, I have the Model 12 and the ATEM Mini Pro which is my dedicated streaming equipment. I would like to know if you have connected the Model 12 to the USB C of the Mac or are you using it as a stand alone for this purpose. I use it as a USB sound card , but have issues with Mix Minus and echo.Can you suggest the best way to connect and use the Model 12 for live streaming interviews or probably make a video regarding this, would definitely be helpful for all of us who have and use the Model 12.
I’m a Drummer , I’d like to make multicam 3-4 GoPros into the ATEM mini ISO , the audio will be coming from a Behringer X32 ( dedicated stand alone for Drums). Pre mixed 2 track I’ll send to the ATEM . Would love your thoughts on this setup and would like to know what you might do differently if anything ! Looking to make a dozen or so Drum cover videos in multitrack/ Multicam. Thank you !
Hey, thanks for the useful video. I'm getting a nasty hum when I connect my rodecaster pro to the Atem. I've read some bits about balanced/unbalanced audio, and ground loops - but I don't really understand. Have you come across this problem?
So glad you made sure to tell everyone to use the headphone jack. When I saw that cable in the thumbnail I was so afraid you were going to plug it into a balanced output like I've seen from so many other channels.
Ouch: don't connect your headphones out to microphone input without setting it to line first (default is microphone)! Might destroy at least your ears... ;-) Second problem with your setup is you can't handle a mix minus.
This is really bad practice. Headphone out is not line out. And that “stereo” (trs) 1/4 to 3.5mm trs isn’t doing anything. You are going stereo out to mono in and overdriving the line level. This is why you needed to turn yourself headphones down to below 75%. Why not use two of those cables from the main out or aux out from the Tascam into mic 1 and 2 on the atem and then pan hard left and right in the software control? The. You are using the full power of your mixer. Anything else is just a hack.
Both mic jacks on the Atem are stereo or dual mono. The mic channel on the ATEM is set to line level. There's no audible distortion and it works perfectly. Meanwhile your suggestion of using Aux sends would not work, because the Aux send on the Model 12 is, in fact, mono.
@@AudioforContentCreators well. Crap. You’re correct and I stand corrected. Just googled and saw a comment in a thread on the bmd forums confirming this. From one of the engineers on the product no less. I apologize for talking out of turn on this one. I do still stand by my comment about the bad practice of using the headphone out as your output. The main out or an aux out would be much more appropriate. But hey - if it’s working for you how you like, then who am I to try to stop you! Thanks for the reply and setting me straight.
Yes, it is not ideal, but as I've stated elsewhere in these comments, the mains are going to my monitors and the subs are going to the Mackie Big Knob because the Model 12 doesn't have built-in switching for monitors vs headphones. So, headphone output is the easiest permanent solution. There's no danger in blowing anything out. Sweetwater techs even did a blog about running headphones out of a mixer and conclusively stated you're not going to damage any equip doing it.
@@AudioforContentCreators ok - so here I am at far too late in the evening with a behringer x1622 mixer, and atem mini extreme, a couple mics and some cans all hooked up at the dining room table; and I’m learning something new about my equipment. Man I was wrong. Flat wrong about the mic 1 and 2 being line- ins and stereo optional. Thanks again for setting me straight. Sub earned the hard way!
Thank you Brian, great video! I recently purchased the ATEM Extreme and haven't been able to get the sound right with my GOXLR. I have been using a 3.5mm audio cable from the line out on the GOXLR to the mic 1 input on the ATEM. The sound is horrible. There is only one headphone jack on the GOXLR so how can I monitor my sound if I'm using the headphone jack to connect the GOXLR to the ATEM? Cheers Brian, thanks again!!
Should I do more quick tip videos like this on other products?
Will this work with 3 or more cameras and external mics?
@@realtalkradiowithdanlane Up to 4 cameras via HDMI, each can have a mic attached to the camera. Plus two 3.5mm inputs directly into ATEM.
Oh well this won't work... I have an audio mixer with 3 XLR mics and 3 cameras... So 3 stations...
Hi, sound is getting suppressed when using Atem mini pro. For example, keyboard volume is getting suppressed when choir volume is clear and vice Versa. Is there any setting which I should adjust? We are using mixer board to connect ATEM
What would be the best recommended mixer for podcast feed to the atem mini extreme iso? I’m increasing my capacity on my podcast from 4 seats to 6-8 seats, so I’m upgrading my atem mini iso pro to the atem mini extreme iso, but need to increase my microphone capacity from 4 to 8. I’ve been using a Rode Podcaster II, but it’s only good for 4 mics. What do you reccomend?
Black magic needs a rack mount ATEM mini model with XLR’s on the back.
Or just add an XLR input
@@MMAFan20 can You use a converter? thanks
The Roland VR-6HD Direct Streaming AV Mixer, though expensive, offers good audio inputs and outputs.
Thank you for How to Connect an Audio Mixer to the ATEM Mini !
WOW.. This is the video I've been looking for. I've been doing my research into the Atem and the issues of audio delay has been a known issue. However no one has suggested that in the Atem software there is feature to delay the audio. OMG Because of this video I'm going to purchase one.. Thank you..
Phenomenal channel and content my dude !! So I had an atem hum. Turns out you just have to go into ATM settings and set the input to line. It's on mic by default
Thank you for the awesome video! I am trying to set up my Atem Mini for live streaming. I did have one question.... If you are using the headphone port from the mixing board is there a still a way to check the audio signal that you are sending?
I have this same question. Ever get a solution?
I resolved a problem with this video, AMAZING!!!
Needed this tonight after struggling for days with my mini pro. I run my keyboard and vocals through a Tascam DP24. Is it possible to do what you explained and that way my playing and singing will match up at the same time? I love my DP and the power and editing I can do for a finished product before sending live, or in this case, sending to the mini pro for streaming or recording. Thanks for your expertise.
Watched this again after arduous days and muffled audio in my mini pro. I have this cable on order and hope to run as said. I'm hoping the audio and video together, through my zoom q8 will work through this cable.
Hi, we have this setup in our church and the sound drops constantly up and down on the Atem mini pro.
Hey, why do you use the headphone jack and not an actual output of the mixer like the main mix signal, aux sends and more?
Re: Mixer output to Atem Mini. We use a Alesis 12R, at our church, and can't use the headphone jack for Atem Mic in. I'm using the Aux out / Main out, and turning the Atem mic input quite low, so I don't overdrive the input. I believe I should set the ATEM for "LINE" input. Is there anyway to configure the ATEM, to remember where the input level is set (input stage gain setting), so I don't have to constantly adjust?
So there needs to be a mixing console to get audio out ..is there no direct audio output or inputs from Atem..
And if my mixer is very far from Atem? And i need to run XLR cable ?
Thanks, this was super helpful!
I have experienced that the 3.5mm inputs on the atem are quite noisy compared when I run sound via inputs on my cameras. Or does that have to do with mismatched impedances?
thanks for this video. BM updated the Atem software adding a "Microphone+Plug in power (normal)" to the the setting menu, for which mics is it for?
and it looks like your meters are clipping on 3:27 but no distortion on you voice...how come?
Thanks
Hi Im coming out of an Audient iD4 headphone jack and I can't figure out why it wont work in my atem .
I bought that device to eliminate the hum, and it did absolutely nothing. It’s so frustrating. I bought two different high-quality cables, I’m using a left and right out from the back and running that into the Atem. Any other suggestions? Where can I edit this “within the software“?
Hello, thanks for the video, cam the same be done with the Zoom H5 recorder? Can’t manage to make it work :(
I have a Behringer X1222 with the 1/4 headphone jack plugged into the 1/8 Atem Mini Iso Pro (mic one), however, the sound is only solid through the left side. I can hear through the left but it is very faint. Can you help me understand why?
Will that cable work if I want to run a 1/4 in out from a wireless microphone system from the receiver to the Atem?
Will this mix two audio streams from two different mics or will I need another connection im new to this part
thanks for the helpful video! i will be streaming live music via 4 different cameras in four different areas of the studio. all the music will be fed into my model 12. i was wondering: 1) since the cameras will only be for visual purposes, do i need to go the iso route? 2) any advantage, from a STRICTLY audio standpoint, to go with extreme rather than pro? or should i just go with a regular old atem mini and broadcast from my computer rather than directly from the pro or extreme? thanks again!
Is there a less substantial board you recommend that is less expensive than the Tascam 12? I just have 2 XLR lines running Sure MV7s, I don’t need so many channels. Thanks in advance!
can I use a Podtrak P4 with my atem mini pro in this way with a try cable?
Hi, quick question… I have the cable you’re using, and it’s connected between the Rode Podcaster II and the ATEM MINI PRO ISO and it is only picking up the left channel. If I partially unplug the 3.5mm end of the cable, it will occasionally balance, but it is unstable and unreliable. Do you know why, and how I would correct it?
Thank you soooooo much!
Can I do this with Pioneer CDJs to ATEM? 🥹
Love it, great stuff.
Why you connect to headphones output of mixer not to main output?
Because the mains are going to my monitors.
Hey brother.
Im outputting from main output XLR from A&H qu sb mixer to the atem 3.5mm jack line level.
I have sound working perfectly on my laptop and new mobile phones.
Older phones I get no sound from RUclips streams whatsoever. Any advice how to overcome this?
Will this still work if you are streaming using the Atem mini but using OBS?
Thank you very much
Great vid. How do you monitor the sound? Where do you plug the headphones?
I monitor at the source, my mixer, before it goes to the ATEM.
Is the mic input on the atem mono or stereo?
If mono, will you not have to use both mic inputs, hard-panned left/right to not loose the stereo image coming in from the mixer?
It's stereo.
Great video Brian. A quick question, pretty sure I know the answer, but want to double check with a pro. Have just purchased the Apollo Twin X. Going to plug the Thunderbolt 3 cable into my Mac Studio, and then run a line from the Apollo directly into my ATEM Mini Pro ISO. Essentially I won't be using the Mac other than for configuring my audio settings in the Apollo. I am wanting to record all my video and audio directly into the ATEM. By recording my audio via the Apollo and feeding directly into the ATEM I am getting the benefit of pre-processing my audio for recording and live-streaming, and also ultimately covering my audio and video into one single device i.e. the ATEM. Does all that sound ok Brian? Thanks in advance.
Sounds right to me but can't verify.
On The ATEM mini can you mute cam audio and just get the mixer audio on the stream?
Yes. You have independent on/off control over the 2 Mic inputs and the 4 Cam inputs (audio arriving as part of the HDMI signal). You can also have "audio follow video" - that is, audio from a cam is enabled only when that cam is the "live" program output.
Hello Bryan
Thanks for this video. What is the distance that this set up can handle? Do you think that I will be able to mke this set up when my mixer is far from my Atem mini. More than 25 ft fo example.
I wouldn't go any longer than 10 ft when 3.5mm is involved. For long range professional applications, use the sub outs.
What camera and lens r u using thsnks
I'm using Panasonic Lumix G85 with 12-35 f/2.8 lens.
This also works well for Multicam ? I have 4 cams , doing Drum cover Videos. I have a music track running into a track, my voice into a track and I submix the drum kit and my voice , so I see you take the headphone out into the ATEM MINI PRO ISO . How do I set the ATEM to use the audio I’m sending from mixer for the multicam project and NOT use ANY CAMERA AUDIO ? Thanks
Turn on the audio from the mic inputs and off for each camera. There is a button per channel on the ATEM.
Great content! What camera and lens are you shooting this video with?
Panasonic Lumix G85 with 12-35 f/2.8 ii.
Hi! Thank you for this video! If I put my mic on Delay of 7 or even 8 it is still too early for the video... do you know what to do then?
Sounds like something is wrong. Shouldn't be any delay that bad.
Some mixers allow you to insert delay into the output mix. I use a combination of 250msec in the mixer, plus 4 frames (@30 ms) in the ATEM.
This is so annoying LOL... now I have to figure out if I want to buy one of these ground Loopers just to use with my ZOOM podtrack or buy 2 for when I record 2 mics plugged directly into the ATEM!
I just bought 4 Rode XLR+ adapters for plug-in power at $20 each! 🤦🏾♂️
What if u use multiple cameras will they all remain in sync even if the are all the exact same cameras
If you are running the same length HDMI cables to each of them, they should. Within a frame anyway.
Can’t understand why you have used the headphones output and not a main or an auxiliary. Potential for huge problems by doing that. Viewers beware.
It would be helpful if you explained why for us.
@@AudioforContentCreators
A headphone output is not line level, it is powered by an amplifier. While it can be made to work, be assured, you won’t see this being done anywhere, or being taught at college.
@@frankieking1941 100% correct
Frankie King is 100% correct (I am a professional sound technician/engineer for over 20 years)
@@frankieking1941 how to connect properly - could you say or send right YT video?
But you can’t run it all the way from the stage . You need a balanced out form the mixer that’s possibly away . And you will need some xlr to line out
That's correct.
@@AudioforContentCreators so any suggestions? Some kind of xlr to audio box?
Nice tutorial but a headphone out is not line level. They are two different things.
You are correct.
no no no you should not put headphone out signal into mic/line input of the Atem. The lowest signal is a microphpne signal, then a line signal and then much louder (stronger) signal is the headphone out signal. It can be done but the chance you damage your atem input is too real to do this. And defenattely NOT set the volume control of the headphone out to 3 o'clock to start with. IF you must use this method then FIRST go in the atem software and set the input to LINE (standard it is set to MICROPHONE). Then turn the headphone volume of the your mixer all the way down to zero. Then connect the mixer to the Atem and start sending music and only then very slowly turn your volume knob away from off. Still I would never recommend this way of connection a mixer to the Atem.
Thanks for the advice!
For what it's worth, the ATEM input IS set to line, which I explained and demoed in the video. And the way I came to 3 o'clock was by starting at 0 and turning up until my input level on the ATEM never exceeded -6 db, to give myself plenty of headroom.
And you're right, I should have explained that here, which I didn't. I'll add that process to a follow-up video on this topic.
Of course as others have noted, you can go from a proper line level like Aux or Sub, but in my specific case, neither is available for a permanent setup.
And since this video was meant to be a general instruction (featuring Model 12 but not exclusive to it), I demonstrated the headphone jack technique.
Which is exactly what you'd do if you had the Rodecaster Pro or a smaller mixer with less outs.
As engineers at Sweetwater and elsewhere have confirmed, there is no serious risk of damaging a line level input with a headphone output. It's about volts, not gain.
No, it won't be the cleanest possible signal (although in this case, it is squeaky clean). No, it's not the "proper" method.
But it works, and it works well. Just mind your gain staging like any other input source.
funny you ain't sync though
:')
Hello!! you know with this works with a GOXLR? Thank You Soo much!
Thank you sir! You are succinct and very helpful! I appreciate it. Thanks for the delay tip.
This works PERFECT. I could not find a solution until your video. Thanks so much. I run all my instruments, and vocals through my Tascam DP24. I was not able to get but garbled audio. NOW, this simple cable is to my mic 1 input (line enabled) has allowed for perfect audio. I had to change my Zoom Q8 setting to 'MOV' only, so video and audio is separated. The Zoom simply goes in HDMI 1. ALSO, I use a splitter on the headphone jack and monitor through cans - so sweet. Can't thank you enough.
Hi Brian
I note you still have this video public.
I am back to call you out on it!
While I did not expect you to delete it when I first committed, I imagined you would do do some research to check if you are correct.
Perhaps you might of gone back to whoever had trained you as a sound engineer to ask them.
This tutorial is wrong!
Should any of the viewers connect with the headphone volume at full they will damage their equipment and void their warranty.
Hi Frankie! You'll notice I specifically instructed viewers not to connect with the headphone volume at full, but at 3/4 in order to avoid precisely this problem. Appreciate your concern on behalf of me and my viewers. Thanks for checking back in. What are you working on these days?
@@AudioforContentCreators To my 'humble' opinion people who damage their atem input can sue you :)
I’m terribly confused with all this audio stuff, but you explained it really well. I do have a couple of questions 1. How are you monitoring your audio if the ATEM has commandeered the headphone jack and 2. Will the ATEM handle 48v phantom power? Thanks so much, keep ‘em coming. I’m learning 😊
if I'm not mistaken monitoring the audio is now done in the ATEM. ATEM should also have a phantom power button analog or digital.
I have the same question as the ATEM Mini Pro does not have a headphone jack for monitoring. Phantom Power only required fro the XLR condenser mic right? That can be handled by the mixer?
Thanks!! This is great. I'm going to be trying to use the Mixcast 4 to ATEM Mini Pro, then to server/online, and finally to a TV channel. The TV station only wants an SD resolution signal, like below 480 for sure. I'm semi-confident with the online/live streaming aspect. So basically, I'm a videographer with a decent amount of audio knowledge who is learning trial-by-fire style. Any recommendations??? Thanks!!!
Btw; I plan on using the ATEM for all of our programming, will it be enough?
Thanks for sharing. I subscribed a while back and continually find your content informative. Thanks again.
I'm surprised this works. Headphones on mixers are not line level but headphone level and have a different impedance because they are driving such small speakers that are in the headsets. I usually run through a DI Box or interface between a mixer and a 3.5 port. I'm trying to either achieve line level or mic level depending on if it's leaving the mixer or coming into the mixer. My guess is that the ATEM is basically pre-amping the signal and cleaning the signal as the headphone signal would need to be boosted. Headphone outs are also prone to slight noise when doing this as well. Would it technically be better to run from an aux out or two aux outs into a Radial Pro or something like that which would convert the signal to stereo and allow you to adjust the level?
Great explanations, love your setup Brian, you tone and delivery and your background, that Hum info saved me. Subscribed!
Great! Thanks John.
Help please! I’m trying this the the headphone out of my apollo x8p, apollo twin, even my turntable mixer I’ve tried this and I have a low buzzing sound
Why headphone out? And not the xlr to mini jack cable
Brian: Thanks for the tip to send the mixer output to the ATEM Mini Pro. However, I am currently sending the headphone out to my Berhinger multi-headphone splitter. Do you see any issue if I use a 1/4 inch TRS male to a TRS 1/4 inch dual female Y splitter (out of my mixer), sending one stereo signal to the ATEM mic 1 input (via the cable you recommended) and one to the headphone splitter? Hank
Great question, Hank. The better way would be to send it to your multi-headphone splitter, then send one of those headphone outs to the ATEM Mini, using the method in this video. Unless you need all 4 headphone outs in the headphone mixer.
This video totally just saved me from having a breakdown! Thank you!
What if its an ISO version and i also want multi track recording ?
lol tascam model 12 is fancy huh? And I’m out…
Can we do a similar audio setup for live streaming?
Thank you very much .. why i found this chanell so late ? it could sort out looooads of my questions ......
Very helpful video. Just a one questions for now..... Would the aux out 1/4" jacks work as well as the headphone out? Thanks. (Behringer 1204 USB mixer. No FX)
Nice video. Wish this would work for me, but I need that headphone jack in my setup for Rude/Solo previews during a show... so no dice for me. That said -- love the quality of your video content!
Thank you for your information concerning the noise. I bought the little cable that you use and after no noise. I write to you from my Charlesbourg'studio, Quebec.
Hello Brian, have you tried sending a stereo mix instead of headphones mix? understand that headphone mix is unbalanced connection and a stereo mix mix from your Tascam can a balanced matrix output. Also wanting to know if the Mic/Line input is balanced or unbalanced connection if the Line option is checked? Lastly thank you for your video.
Why to connect a console's headphones jack output and not a group output, an AUX output or a tape output (these use balanced female jacks or RCAs) on your ATEM MINI PRO instead? The signal provided from these outputs is 0 - 6db max (depending on the type of outputs you use). The headphones output (on the other hand) is very high, if you're not careful enough you can easily damage the input of your video switcher very easily. That's why the tech-services around the world are very busy. Nobody follows rules..
In this setup... where are you putting your 'monitoring headphones' I suppose since im trying to hook up my Presonus AudioBox to the ATEM that I wondered how Id monitor ? Prob a dumb question. Would it be my computer.. OR since Im ALSO running the ATEM into my yolo box... The yolo has headphone jack.. that prob solves the issues.. Forgive me, Im new
Great content, exactly what I was searching for.
One addition I can't figure out (if possible at all): Is it possible to get separated audio tracks from multiple mics connected to my mixer->mic 1 on Atem Extreme recording?
I am curious if i can connect the Mini Pro to Apollo Twin UAD/Logic Daw to capture the sound with mics..apollo has two send out puts on the back .. it would be great to see videos of how to use a audio interface many of us musicians have, with this switcher.
hey my mixer doesn't have headphones, but i have something like rec out, is something close to headphone, mixer send the sound out for rec, i bought a cable with red and black(left/right) and i hope i will receive sound from mixer to atem mini, i want to ask you if the cable is good, is a cfy 6 wcc short split with 2x plug side player to mixer, i hope i write good, if you search on google that name you will find the cable :)
I can’t get sound coming through. Im able to select blackdigidesign for input but still no sound. Cant see nothing on sound meter. Any help?
Hi can you tell me how to connect a tascam dp008 to a behringer mixer 802 so I can rec through the mixer thanks 👍
Man ! Thanks for this video !
If using the rodecaster can you have all four mic inputs record into mic one on the atem?
Can I use the Zoom H8?
How do you connect the Atem 1 M/E Production Studio 4K to your mixing board?
Hi Brian, I have the Model 12 and the ATEM Mini Pro which is my dedicated streaming equipment. I would like to know if you have connected the Model 12 to the USB C of the Mac or are you using it as a stand alone for this purpose. I use it as a USB sound card , but have issues with Mix Minus and echo.Can you suggest the best way to connect and use the Model 12 for live streaming interviews or probably make a video regarding this, would definitely be helpful for all of us who have and use the Model 12.
Yes, I'll do a video on my mix-minus setup with the Model 12. It involves the sub outs and a Mackie Big Knob.
Great tips! Thanks.
I want to thank you for this video, it saved me in the middle of a live recording when my audio interface died. Great solution 👌🏿 👍🏿.
Thanks for helping me level up!
How to listen while recording
Thank You!
Thanks for the last tip, i have a lot of noise in my Atem.
Great video Brian, which livestreaming software are you using?
Thanks! I use Streamyard for livestreaming.
I’m a Drummer , I’d like to make multicam 3-4 GoPros into the ATEM mini ISO , the audio will be coming from a Behringer X32 ( dedicated stand alone for Drums). Pre mixed 2 track I’ll send to the ATEM . Would love your thoughts on this setup and would like to know what you might do differently if anything ! Looking to make a dozen or so Drum cover videos in multitrack/ Multicam. Thank you !
That should work great.
Hey, thanks for the useful video. I'm getting a nasty hum when I connect my rodecaster pro to the Atem. I've read some bits about balanced/unbalanced audio, and ground loops - but I don't really understand. Have you come across this problem?
Ok I watched to the end and you answered my question! Thanks!
Top! Tks man!
So glad you made sure to tell everyone to use the headphone jack. When I saw that cable in the thumbnail I was so afraid you were going to plug it into a balanced output like I've seen from so many other channels.
Can you explain this? Why cant you use a balanced output of an audio mixer like the main mix out, audio sends... Why the headphone jack?
Great tutorials
Thank you!
What do you find a good delay to set is ?
Totally depends on your camera and mic combo. I have mine set to 7 frames after lots of testing.
Ouch: don't connect your headphones out to microphone input without setting it to line first (default is microphone)! Might destroy at least your ears... ;-)
Second problem with your setup is you can't handle a mix minus.
Right you are! That's why I was set to line first. And I use sub outs for mix minus, which I detailed in another video. Thanks for watching!
@@AudioforContentCreators Thx for the mix minus video!
This is really bad practice. Headphone out is not line out. And that “stereo” (trs) 1/4 to 3.5mm trs isn’t doing anything. You are going stereo out to mono in and overdriving the line level. This is why you needed to turn yourself headphones down to below 75%.
Why not use two of those cables from the main out or aux out from the Tascam into mic 1 and 2 on the atem and then pan hard left and right in the software control? The. You are using the full power of your mixer. Anything else is just a hack.
Both mic jacks on the Atem are stereo or dual mono. The mic channel on the ATEM is set to line level. There's no audible distortion and it works perfectly.
Meanwhile your suggestion of using Aux sends would not work, because the Aux send on the Model 12 is, in fact, mono.
@@AudioforContentCreators well. Crap. You’re correct and I stand corrected. Just googled and saw a comment in a thread on the bmd forums confirming this. From one of the engineers on the product no less.
I apologize for talking out of turn on this one.
I do still stand by my comment about the bad practice of using the headphone out as your output. The main out or an aux out would be much more appropriate. But hey - if it’s working for you how you like, then who am I to try to stop you!
Thanks for the reply and setting me straight.
Yes, it is not ideal, but as I've stated elsewhere in these comments, the mains are going to my monitors and the subs are going to the Mackie Big Knob because the Model 12 doesn't have built-in switching for monitors vs headphones. So, headphone output is the easiest permanent solution. There's no danger in blowing anything out. Sweetwater techs even did a blog about running headphones out of a mixer and conclusively stated you're not going to damage any equip doing it.
@@AudioforContentCreators ok - so here I am at far too late in the evening with a behringer x1622 mixer, and atem mini extreme, a couple mics and some cans all hooked up at the dining room table; and I’m learning something new about my equipment.
Man I was wrong. Flat wrong about the mic 1 and 2 being line- ins and stereo optional.
Thanks again for setting me straight. Sub earned the hard way!
Thank you Brian, great video! I recently purchased the ATEM Extreme and haven't been able to get the sound right with my GOXLR. I have been using a 3.5mm audio cable from the line out on the GOXLR to the mic 1 input on the ATEM. The sound is horrible. There is only one headphone jack on the GOXLR so how can I monitor my sound if I'm using the headphone jack to connect the GOXLR to the ATEM? Cheers Brian, thanks again!!
Did you set the input micro from the ATEM to the Line mode?
Line out 1/8 stereo to 1/8 stereo cable into Line In on ATEM, set input on ATEM to "Line In" instead of mic.