The History of Y Chromosome Haplogroup J

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  • Опубликовано: 21 окт 2024

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  • @AdoptedCats
    @AdoptedCats 6 месяцев назад +3

    Kiriath Yearim founding on J2 yDNA
    T1a9, H87 MtDNA
    The highlight of the very partial results is that the Y chromosome in the man belongs to the J2 haplogroup, a group of closely-related DNA sequences that is believed to have originated in the Caucasus or Eastern Anatolia, a vast area including modern-day eastern Turkey, northwest Iran, Armenia, Georgia, Azerbaijan and southern Russia.
    This is important because, as mentioned, researchers have already mapped the DNA of ancient Canaanites, showing that they had a strong ancestral connection to modern-day Jewish and Arab populations. That research, published in Cell in 2020, also showed that the Canaanites in the Middle and Late Bronze Age (before the emergence of the Israelite identity) descended from a mix of Neolithic inhabitants of the Levant and a group that immigrated from the Caucasus or Eastern Anatolia.
    Meanwhile...
    We report genome-wide DNA data for 73 individuals from five archaeological sites across the Bronze and Iron Ages Southern Levant. These individuals, who share the “Canaanite” material culture, can be modeled as descending from two sources: (1) earlier local Neolithic populations and (2) populations related to the Chalcolithic Zagros or the Bronze Age Caucasus. The non-local contribution increased over time, as evinced by three outliers who can be modeled as descendants of recent migrants. We show evidence that different “Canaanite” groups genetically resemble each other more than other populations. We find that Levant-related modern populations typically have substantial ancestry coming from populations related to the Chalcolithic Zagros and the Bronze Age Southern Levant. These groups also harbor ancestry from sources we cannot fully model with the available data, highlighting the critical role of post-Bronze-Age migrations into the region over the past 3,000 years.
    Abstract from "The Genomic History of the Bronze Age Southern Levant" (Which is the article from Cell they were referencing in the article)
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    *** This short report supplies basic information regarding an extensively looted burial cave found close to the site of Kiriath-Yearim. The finds in the cave indicate that it was in use during the Iron IIB and early Iron IIC (ca. 750-650 BCE). At least 10 individuals were accounted for, although it is clear that this and similar caves would have been used for many more burials. Two individuals underwent genetics analysis. Our analysis concentrated on matrilineal (mtDNA haplogroups) markers. In comparison to other published material, the haplogroups appear to be of a broadly Near Eastern geographic span and possibly rather ancient origin. This may cautiously hint at local origins of the two individuals; the matrilineal markers might have been different in case of a major gene flow from, e.g., Egypt. mtDNA haplogroup T1a9 may have been present in the Near East in PPN, while H87 may have its roots in the Arabian Peninsula. Moreover, we can cautiously observe that their ancestral, cladal and sub-haplogroups continued to exist, mainly in the Near East and the Mediterranean for many millennia, with geographically proximate examples in sites such as ‘Ain Ghazal in PPNB, Chalcolithic Pki’in and Middle- Late Bronze Megiddo and Alalakh. These haplogroups persist through to the present day.
    As noted above, this report did not explore the challenging wealth of whole genome data obtained from these individuals, which will be provided in a subsequent publication. The excellent quality of the data also suggests that non-cranial osteologic materials from other individuals mentioned above may yield beneficial paleogenomic data. Future attempts on these samples might be worthwhile despite the overall low rate of preservation of DNA in skeletal materials from ancient Israel.

  • @user-dg5vx8li8f
    @user-dg5vx8li8f Месяц назад +1

    I find it strange to ignore the Arabs and the Arabian Peninsula, as it is the region with the most J in its two branches, J1 and J2, and especially J1, which is the highest in the Arabs and the Arabian Peninsula. Why did you not explain their migration and how they entered the Arabian Peninsula?

  • @aerospike00
    @aerospike00 7 месяцев назад +1

    Good evening Dr. Elhaik.

  • @Built_for_it_all88
    @Built_for_it_all88 7 месяцев назад +2

    Do one of these for e1b1 !!

  • @meta_pyx
    @meta_pyx 7 месяцев назад +3

    Gaining access to viable Israelite Y DNA from the First Kingdom Period and publishing it will cause a storm of biblical proportions. It will put to rest a multitude of assertions and theories. For now, GPS appears to be the front runner in getting answers.

  • @joes3256
    @joes3256 7 месяцев назад +3

    According to a study published in June 2017 by Ranajit Das, Paul Wexler, Mehdi Pirooznia, and Eran Elhaik in Frontiers in Genetics, "in a principal component analysis (PCA) [of DNA], the ancient Levantines clustered predominantly with modern-day Palestinians and [levant] Bedouins..." and that Palestinians have a "predominant" ancient levantine origin.[15] In a study published in August 2017 by Marc Haber et al. in The American Journal of Human Genetics, the authors concluded that: "The overlap between the Bronze Age and present-day Levantines suggests a degree of genetic continuity in the region."[18]A 2021 study by the New York Genome Center found that the predominant component of the DNA of modern Palestinians matches that of Bronze Age Palestinians (Canaanites) from around 2500-1700 BCE.[17]. The Palestinians are the original jews and Israelites.

    • @davidjay4373
      @davidjay4373 7 месяцев назад

      Grouping those pseudoscientists all together in a study looks more like a circus...
      Eran has an antiZionist agenda...
      But leaving agenda aside, here's the problems with that conclusion:
      1. We know from the literary record, of mass migrations into Israel/Palestine since the times of the Canaanites. So saying that all the natives are Canaanites is simply wrong.
      2. Othet more reputable studies show that Palestinians have about half Canaanite DNA on average.
      3. DNA studies show that most Jewish diaspora communities shared half DNA with Canaanites. Which is why they are closely related genetically to Palestinians.
      Indeed many Palestinians are descendant from former Israelites, most notably the Northern "ten lost tribes" Israelites who later became Samaritan, Christians, and finally Muslims.

    • @fomalhauto
      @fomalhauto 4 месяца назад

      The Lebanese are predominantly Levantine too
      doesn't mean that they are the original Jews and Israelites
      they're more likely the descendants of the Pheonicians
      Levantine is not the same thing as Jews and Israelites
      there were not concept of Jews and Israelites when people first in Levant
      There were no such thing as Jews and Israelites during the Neolithic period nor Chalcolithic periods
      There is PCA plot that shows that Modern Egyptians, Ancient Egyptians, Neothlic Levantines, and Bronze Age Levantines are genetically similar.

    • @joes3256
      @joes3256 4 месяца назад

      @@fomalhauto The invading zionists, according to Israeli author Shlomo Sand in his book "The invention of the Jewish people are jewish converts alien to palestine. In the 8th century ad the Khazar kingdom in ukraine converted to judaism and would go on to make the ashkenazi jewish population in europe. Yemenis converted to judaism during the yemeni kindom o Himyar in the 5th century ad during the rule of Dul Nawas. There were jewish kingdoms in iraq and north africa as well. The palestinians are the eternal natives of the land. Free Palestine.

    • @joes3256
      @joes3256 4 месяца назад

      A 2021 study by the New York Genome Center found that the predominant component of the DNA of modern Palestinians matches that of Bronze Age Palestinians (Canaanites) from around 2500-1700 BCE.[17]. The Palestinian people are the original israelites and judeans.

  • @joes3256
    @joes3256 7 месяцев назад +5

    Invading zionists, according to Israeli author Shlomo Sand in his book "The invention of the Jewish people are jewish converts alien to palestine. In the 8th century ad the Khazar kingdom in ukraine converted to judaism and would go on to make the ashkenazi jewish population in europe. Yemenis converted to judaism during the yemeni kindom o Himyar in the 5th century ad during the rule of Dul Nawas. There were jewish kingdoms in iraq and north africa as well. The palestinians are the eternal natives of the land. Free Palestine.

  • @hellbooks3024
    @hellbooks3024 7 месяцев назад

    Those Neanderthals were ripped!

  • @AdoptedCats
    @AdoptedCats 7 месяцев назад +3

    E1b1b vs. J1
    Regarding the last sentence, as you say, the Arabs of the Arab peninsula have the highest percentage of Natufian components (G25), but the dominant haplogroup is J1.
    My question is:
    As far as I understand, J1 is of Zagros/Caucasus/Georgia origin, which means that the original language of J1 wasn’t Afro-Asiatic; (first question) what culture and what language did the J1 have before adopting the Semitic language that developed in Levant from their North African ancestors that explains the relationship they have around E1b1b, moving across the Sinai.
    Another question, if the Proto-Semites were mostly haplogroup E, which following the Afro-Asiatic line of the Natufians is the original Semitic haplogroup, then we can conclude that the real Semites ethnically and racially are the ones under some clade of haplogroup E, probably E-M84 and that the other Arab and Jewish populations under haplogroup J1 or J2 belong to SEMITIZED subclades?
    Thank you very much for the answer in advance
    It must be said that the true answers to your questions are not yet known. Many people have good ideas and bad ideas about these topics, and these ideas are often informed by personal biases. Don’t believe anyone who claims they know the right answers unless you find yourself truly convinced by their points.
    In my opinion, the Semitic language arose in the Levant during the transition between the Late Chalcolithic and Early Bronze Age. This was a time of aridity and cultural change in the region, likely involving a reduction of population size and favoring of groups adapted to aridity and pastoralism. The domestication of the donkey is also dated to this transitional time, and likely involved the early Semites.
    In my mind, the early Semites were a Levantine population that had ancestry from older Levantine, Anatolian, and Iranian sources. These would have included clades downstream E-M34, T-L208, H-P96, and probably some amounts of J. At some time during the late Chalcolithic, in their small pastoral population, I believe there would have been a significant amount of genetic drift, which corresponds to randomness in a population’s changing over time. Y-chr diversity is very dependent on drift, and I assume that mostly because of randomness, J-Z1853 became the dominant Y-chr lineage of the early Semites. Yes, this is odd because it’s likely their patrilineal ancestors came from the north many centuries earlier, not speaking proto-Semitic. But that doesn’t mean their descendants aren’t any less Semitic than their relatives in, say, E-M84. In my opinion, they are all equally Semitic (depending on the population) in the sense of equal descent from the Semitic ancestors who actually spread their language starting in the Early Bronze Age.
    Read it carefully!

    • @Biblical_DNA
      @Biblical_DNA 7 месяцев назад +2

      E1b1b did not bring any Semitic languages to the Horn of Africa with Kenya_EarlyPastoral_N. The Early Dynasties of Egypt were predominantly of Haplogroup E1b1b and carried a high affinity to Natufian culture, Levant_PPNB, along with Chalcolithic Israel, Iberomaurusian, and possibly to the lesser extent Anatolian, Iranian, and Mesopotamian. Did ancient 1st Dynasty Egypt speak a Semitic language? Nope! So stop claiming that anyone adopted a Semitic language. We don't even know the admixture and Haplogroups of the Akkadians.
      And Semitic is made up from the myth of Shem. There was no historical Shem that developed the Semitic language family.

    • @AdoptedCats
      @AdoptedCats 7 месяцев назад +3

      @@Biblical_DNA Eventually, E1b1b amongst Samaritan Kohen and as well as Assyrian haplotypes and eventually more frequently found amongst Turkish tribes and Arameans in Syria.
      Where majorities spoken Aramaic.
      So, stop yourself from causing falsifying claim your fault information!

    • @Biblical_DNA
      @Biblical_DNA 7 месяцев назад +2

      @@AdoptedCats Your English might be hindering you from understanding what I am telling you. You don't know anything about the E1b1b migrations into Africa. They did not spread Semitic languages during the Neolithic, and Chalcolithic ages. Why not? Shouldn't they have since they were supposedly speaking proto-Semitic? Shouldn't East Africans carrying E-M78 be speaking Semitic languages instead of Cushitic languages? Or did they have amnesia and cause them to forget what language they spoke and forced them to develop a new one because the heat in the sub-Sahara caused their brains to redevelop? 😆 🤣 😂

    • @Biblical_DNA
      @Biblical_DNA 7 месяцев назад

      @@AdoptedCats Samaritan Kohanim carrying E1b1b-V22 has absolutely nothing to do with the legitimacy of your argument. It actually makes you look lost in the sauce. Especially since J2a-M67 is carried in TWO DIFFERENT Samaritan families while J1-P58 is carried in one. No one is questioning that the Canaanites carried a high percentage of Haplogroup J2. This has already been established through research.

    • @AdoptedCats
      @AdoptedCats 7 месяцев назад

      @@Biblical_DNA I already explained! It is your problematic understandings of reading genetical science. D/E was in the Bilad Sham / Natufian before J starts moving into Shem.
      E1b1b entered Africa from Middle East, in fact Aramaic is the mother tongue of Arabic and Hebrew.
      My first comments explained already.
      My first question is: How J's starts speaking Afro Asiatic where they moved in from Zaghros Mt. areas from Iran that posibilities they ever spoke or nothing to do with Aramaic / Afro Asiatic languages.
      You are confused individuals and call yourself Biblical_DNA

  • @AdoptedCats
    @AdoptedCats 7 месяцев назад +2

    Is J1-P58 or E-M35, which one is the haplotype Yitzhac or haplotype Ishmael?
    I believe J's are haplotype Ishmael 100%
    but E-M35 is haplotype Yitzhac
    This is my guess

    • @YardenHaddad
      @YardenHaddad 7 месяцев назад +1

      How could E and J both be from Abraham if they descend from different fathers? J is from F-M89 and E is from DE. DE is spread across South East Asia, Western Asia and Africa while F-M89 is spread across Europe, Central Asia and the Americas. Only one can be Shem and the other Yapheth. E1b founded Afro-Asiatic languages and F-M89 founded Indo-European languages. E1b founded the Culture and J is a introgression and adopted the culture.

    • @AdoptedCats
      @AdoptedCats 7 месяцев назад +2

      @@YardenHaddad You are right.
      E-M35 Shem (E1b1b)
      J1-P58 Canaan / Ham
      R1's A & B Japheth
      Since, E1b1b is Afro Asiatic Aramaic speakers and languages
      while R1a and R1b speaks Indo Iranic / Aryan
      and
      J's Arabic after spreading 700 AD onward
      I think Dr. Eran Elhaik will find out soon.

    • @user-hy4xz1qt9h
      @user-hy4xz1qt9h 7 месяцев назад +3

      Haplogroup E is shem. You can't just split haplogroup E in half and make e1b1b shem leaving e1b1a as some random haplogroup ?

    • @user-hy4xz1qt9h
      @user-hy4xz1qt9h 7 месяцев назад +4

      E is Shem, A/B is Ham and the Rest is Japheth

    • @Kiki_smith
      @Kiki_smith 7 месяцев назад +1

      @@user-hy4xz1qt9hI agree. That’s whet I recorded as well. A/B
      Ham E is Shem the rest Japheth

  • @RickyMorisson
    @RickyMorisson 2 месяца назад

    j1 high frequencies among joradanian arabs iraqi arabs kuwaiti arabs jewish kohanim hebrew canaanite iraqi assyrian aramaic

    • @salamyaya162
      @salamyaya162 Месяц назад

      Modern Assyrians carry R1b mostly.

  • @PJ-is1jy
    @PJ-is1jy 7 месяцев назад +1

    This guys not good at math....