Semitic Norman DNA DEBUNKED

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  • Опубликовано: 25 ноя 2024

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  • @iforbach4003
    @iforbach4003 11 месяцев назад +955

    Sure am tired of these people lying about my people's history.

    • @MartinWillett
      @MartinWillett 11 месяцев назад +187

      Imagine how the Egyptians feel.

    • @CosmosArchipelago
      @CosmosArchipelago 11 месяцев назад

      Zhids are evil.

    • @G_v._Losinj2_ImportantPlaylist
      @G_v._Losinj2_ImportantPlaylist 11 месяцев назад +81

      @@MartinWillettLol which do you mean-the genozidaI Arab invaders or the Chalcolithic Sub-Saharan Engineers?

    • @Harib_Al-Saq
      @Harib_Al-Saq 11 месяцев назад

      The native Coptics.​@@G_v._Losinj2_ImportantPlaylist

    • @steviechampagne
      @steviechampagne 11 месяцев назад +75

      @@MartinWillettyeah it is weird that old Dynasty mummies all have blonde hair😅😅

  • @JoshuaPerkins-by2rj
    @JoshuaPerkins-by2rj 11 месяцев назад +416

    Don’t you just love how people in studies like this like to pull information or stop studies when it suits their agenda. You countered this really well Tom with deep and wide facts that we have up to date.
    Thank you for the video👍

    • @micro4444
      @micro4444 11 месяцев назад +11

      when when when can we see the real data for so many studies

    • @GardaOrban
      @GardaOrban 11 месяцев назад

      post-Soviet anti-Semites of Orbanus have the same runic writing, which they say is proto-Hungarian. Mainly taxi drivers, but Kövér the spiritual leader of Orbánism and Orban himself promote this pseudo-scientific misconception

    • @nikobellic570
      @nikobellic570 11 месяцев назад +12

      Big food and big pharma also make health studies support their products! You can make research say anything if you want to and the public will lap it up

    • @RalphEllis
      @RalphEllis 11 месяцев назад +7

      The Norman were Vikings.
      The Vikings came from Scotland.
      The Scots and lrish came from Egypt. Read Scotichronicon, the ancient chronicle of the Scots. Or my book ‘Scota, Egyptian Queen of the Scots.’.
      Queen Scota was Ankhesenamun, the daughter of Akhenaton.
      Note: The Amarna dynasty of Akhenaton was white-ginger.
      You can see the mummies of Yuya and Tuyu in the Egyptian museum.
      This is true ginger, not a henna dye.
      R

    • @verenatuna9010
      @verenatuna9010 11 месяцев назад +2

      ​​@@RalphEllis So, were they the Hyksos then - in your opinion?
      At least, they were foreigners in Egypt, weren't they?
      So, still the question remains where were they were originally from? And - were they (Hyksos) of Semitic origin like many scientists claim?
      And - are the terms "Semitic" and "Indo-Aryan" actually interchangeable / the same?
      Are they (haplogroups R and J/IJ) two split groups of one and the same (Semitic) origin?
      I know a different version of the Scota-story:
      It says, Scota and Tea Tephi were the two remaining kids of the last king of Judah (Mattanyah or Babylonian: Zedekiah), who fled from the Babylonians to Egypt (along with the prophet Jeremiah) - and from there, they went to Scotland.... could there be some truth about this story and was the royalty of Judah maybe somehow related to the Akhenaton dynasty?

  • @delbertstringbreaker7686
    @delbertstringbreaker7686 11 месяцев назад +225

    There is nothing scarier than people trying to suppress reality because of 'reasons'.

    • @violenceislife1987
      @violenceislife1987 11 месяцев назад +2

      For real, what interest would an archeologist have in pop culture politics? He needs to do his job and not wokeism.

    • @Uncanny_Mountain
      @Uncanny_Mountain 11 месяцев назад +3

      Pythagoras means Heart of the Serpent, he was born in Sidon, a fishing Port in Phoenicia. His mother recieved a message from the Oracle of Delphi that he would become a great Leader and Teacher. Sidon means Kingdom of the Fish, and the Essenes, who wrote the Dead Sea scrolls, worshipped Pythagoras. The Sarcophagus of Eschmun III found in Sidon names him as the Widow's Scion, aka Hiram Abiff, the Founder of Freemasonry, of which Tyre was the premier Capital (at least equal to Thebes).
      In 911BC Rameses II married the Queen of Sidon, home of Jezebel (Daughter or consort of Baal, basically "Queen") founding Neo Assyrian Babylon, an alliance between Egypt and Hiram, father of Jezebel and King of Assyria, and Egypt, forming the Phoenician colonies and building the first Temple of Melqart to commemorate the alliance.
      The Si in Sidon is the basis of the Latin Exe, or X, and is the basis of the Cross, or Chi Rho that Constantine painted on his shields. Also known as the Cross of Tyre, or Cross of Baal, being Ra-El, or Ba'El. Oddly enough irrational numbers can also be mapped using Euler's number, producing a Templar Cross in the process. This cross can also be seen around the neck of Nimrod in Assyria, and is consistent with the Union Jack, and Solstice Calendar found in the Vatican Shiva Lingam.
      Shiva is the Hebrew word for 7, their culture also found its way to Japan (via the Phillipines) ultimately becoming Shintoism.
      It was the Phoenicians who gave their name to the Pole Star, which they used to Navigate the Oceans using the Zodiac, thats what the Antikythera mechanism was for, and with it they wrote the Byblos Baal, what we now call the Bible. The first form of the Bible was written in 325BC and called the Vaticanus Greacus, or Son of the Sacred Serpent, a reference to Sirius, the basis of the Sothic Calendar, which uses a Hexidecimal or base 60 system found in all the Megalithic sites around the world.
      In the second century AD astronomer Valentinus Vettori transcribed it into a Lunar chart of 13 houses, what we now call the Zodiac. Horoscope means Star Watcher, and the Phoenician word for Saturn, or El, was Israel or El, (Fruit) of Isis and Ra.
      El is the primary God of the Phoenicians, representing the offspring of Egypt, and his consort Astarte represents the Assyrian half of the alliance. It may be possible to trace lineages and alliances through the naming of gods, which can be traced all the way to Ireland and the Vikings, and to Indonesia and the Americas, even as far away as New Zealand and Australia.
      It denotes Sirius as Son of Orion and Pleaides, which sits at 33 degrees of the Zodiac. The basis of the Sothic (dir Seth) Calendar of the Egyptians. The New Moon in this position marks Rosh Hashanah, the Egyptian, Celtic, Phoenician, and Assyrian New Year, the first New Moon of September, which is called September because it's the 7th House of the Zodiac, when the Sun is in Ophiuchus.
      The Phoenix, Benben, or Bennu is the Egyptian word for Heron, a Feathered 'Serpent'. It baptised itself in frankincense and myrrh at BaalBek, and then alights atop the Pyramid, upon the Holy Grail, or Alter of Ra every 630 years to take three days off the calendar during the course of the first New Moon of Nisan, which means "Prince". The Capstone of Pyramids is even called the Benben or Bennu.
      The Phoenix is found in all religions, which are all Astrological Allegory for the Moon travelling through the Constellations, as a soul migrating from body to body, this is the basis of Joseph Campbell's Monomyth, or the Hero's Journey. The various planets no doubt play their own roles as portents, omens, and aspects, this astrology is the science of the Bronze age, and lasted all the way up to the 20th Century. Resurrection was an early teaching of the Christian Church, and likely relates to the lineage of Kings (The King is Dead, long live the King.)
      Phoenicians represent the interim step between Egypt and Greece, their artisans and culture exceeding that of the Greeks, who literally adopted the Phoenician Alphabet, which we still use to this day, sounding out words phonetically. Phoenician is aliiterated in Venetian, and Vikings, being Kings of the Sea.
      The Bennu is the Egyptian Phoenix, to Phoenicians the Hoyle, no different to the traditions of the Etruscans, who saw birds as sacred, just as the Celts. Hebrew and Iber as in Iberia have the same root meaning over, as in overseas, as in those who travel "over the sea." A colony called Iberia also appears on the Eastern shores of the Black Sea, where the same Dolmens and Megalithic culture originating in Ireland and Brittany appeared circa 4500BC.
      _Phoenician_ means Scions of the Phoenix, the first Bible: Vaticanus Greacus Son of the Sacred Serpent (Prince). Then there's the Essenes, Sons of Light, the Tuatha De Danaan, Sons of Light, Annunaki, Sons of Light, Arthur Pendragon means Arthur Son of the dragon, Chertoff is Russian for "Son of the Devil" and Dracula also means Son of the Dragon, Masons have been known at times to call themselves the "Brotherhood of the Great White Serpent". The Ziggurat of Anu also denotes her as a great white Serpent, while New Grange and the Bru na Boinne in Ireland (4000BC) coated buildings with white quartz to denote the Moon. The Moon itself travels outside the Solar Elliptic by 5 degrees, which means it passes through specific constellations in a serpentine fashion that is always changing, but repeats every 19 years, the time it took to train a Druid or Magi, Magi meaning "Teacher" the Phoenix is also associated with this sacred number 19.
      The name "Pharoah" means "Great House"
      or "House of Light" and Cairo used to be called Babel. Pharaoh's themselves wore a hooded crown representing feathers, just as Native American Chiefs, ie the Feathered Serpent, they were also called the Commander in Chief. Aztecs also had Serpent Kings, (Canaan means Serpent Kings, and Sidon was a Son of Canaan, and Great Grandson of Noah) who were called to lead with cunning and guile, being the very virtue by which they claim the title in the first place; but to be seen in public as just and diplomatic.
      "As wise as Serpents, but gentle as Doves" the old Egyptian flag of an Eagle attacking a Snake is also reflected in the Modern Mexican flag, denoting the Constellations of Serpentis (13th sign of the Zodiac) and Aquila.
      The dimensions and 12 mathematical constants of the Great Pyramid are also expressed in New Grange, and Stonehenge, as well as in Watson Brake, (2500BC) and Teotihuacan, which correlates to the Phoenician/ Sumerian Hexidecimal system, which is what our modern systems of time are based on.
      Officially no one knows who invented astrology, the zodiac, navigation by the stars, and time keeping. But whoever built the pyramids, and pioneered the 24hr clock in Egypt 5000 years ago also knew the exact dimensions of the Earth, as well as the speed of light. These calculations can all be made using these Megalithic sites as surveyors use a theodolite. Specifically Teotihuacan, which sits 180 degrees opposite Cairo, and has the exact same footprint. The ideal positions to determine the speed of light using the transit of Venus, by which one can accurately determine Longitude for navigation. Capt cook did the same thing in 1774 when he 'discovered' Easter Island.
      The only culture that fits the bill was wiped out "not one stone upon the other" by the Romans in 146BC. Tyre, the capital of Phoenicia (israel) sat just offshore from Ur Shalom, City of the New Moon, or City of Peace. The root of the name Jerusalem, and was also seized by Rome in 70AD after a 13 year seige. The gap between is 216 years.
      Greek Dionysians built the Temple of Solomon (now called the Temple of Melqart) representing the Solar Lunar Metonic Calendar on which this system is based, they also carried mirrors, a practice associated with both the Magi and the Druids as well as Greek and Egyptian scholars, these Mirrors are Astrological charts called "Cycladian Frying Pans" and record the cycles of the planets. The first Temple of Melqart (the Phoenician form of Horus, or Hercules, or Pan, or Thor) representing the 13th Constellation of Ophiuchus or the Serpent Bearer (hence Orphic Serpent worship) had pillars of Emerald and Gold, representing Isis and Osiris. The Jerusalem Temple only took payment in "Shekels of Tyre" a currency minted during the Jewish rebellion against Rome. "Give that which is Ceasar's unto Ceasar"
      When Alexander sacked Tyre in 332BC they moved to Carthage meaning "New City" or New Jerusalem, where they built a second temple with Pillars of Bronze.
      Nebuchadnezzar also seiged Tyre for 13 years, taking the City captive in 573BC: the same time as the biblical account of the Jews. And again in 70AD after a three and a half year seige, also consistent with biblical accounts.
      Esus was a character created by Joseph of Arimathea, who was a Celt, the King of Tyre, the Bible is the Phoenician Almanac, Esus the God of Death, Polaris, the Pole Star.
      It's written backwards, in a mirror, just as Egyptians made their astrological records, the Zodiac.

    • @Uncanny_Mountain
      @Uncanny_Mountain 11 месяцев назад +6

      Jesus was a creation of Joseph of Arimathea, a curse upon Rome. He's the Author, or Arthur, who pulls the Cross from the Stone; the guy with a feather, or Scribe's pen, hence the Pen is mightier than the Sword.
      E Io te Ari Matea is also a figure in Maori mythology in New Zealand, which aligns to the Zodiac, and the Southern Cross, and is forty degrees south of the equator.
      They also have He Uenuku Atua, or Rainbow spirit, a reference to the Unicorn, and Jesus, and worship Papatunuku, the Great Earth Mother, also worshipped by the Phrygians of Anatolia as El Pipitunaka, or Titikaka, which is also found in Teotihuacan, along with Amarru Marru, and in New Zealand Oamaru
      And best yet, in the western part of the North Island sits Taranaki, which means Northern Star
      The Bible is an almanac encoding a world map, including New Zealand, Hyperborea, or Elysium, the Underworld of Hades, and the secret home of the Phoenicians.
      Maori having a character called Maui, or the Navigator, alligning to Ophiuchus, the 13th Starsign which lasts 18 days (3x6) and the Manger or Cave in which Jesus was born and died in. Maui plants two eels, just as Osiris planted two serpents, which sprouted into pillars, like Sampson, or Moses, picking up the Serpent Staff of Pharoahs. Ophiuchus being the Serpent Bearer, just as Jesus represents Hephaestus, or the Brazen/ Rainbow Serpent of the Dream time.
      Maui also slows the sun, just as Joshua in the Bible, in a battle campaign that aligns with that of Tutmoses III, and his battle with Jericho, aka Megiddo, in which he used a Goat Track, which relates to Capricorn, and we also find in the tale of Sparta.
      Cap as in Capstone, or Headstone, or Altar of Ra, the Holy Grail atop the Mountain of Moses, or Great Pyramid, the Holy Mountain of Hermon.
      Now if you impose a Star of David and align the central axis to the North and South poles, and flip it upside down, you have exactly what the Bible describes as the transition of the Age of Pisces into Aquarius, and the zenith of Orion, the Root of the Zodiac or Tree of Knowledge
      And Maori again have a Forest God called Tane, who separated the Sky God from the Earth Goddess, his position is no different to that of Atlas, propping up the world by his shoulders.
      Jews were Celts, and Celts settled New Zealand and mapped it out at least 5000 years ago, at the period of Ireland's Megalithic period. New Zealand being a land of only birds, which Celts saw as sacred, and great trees like the Kauri, not unlike Menkauri pyramid. Great for ship masts, and plenty of flax to make sails for Aladdin's flying carpet (Sailing ship). Aladdin being King Solomon, his mines being the astrological knowledge that put them centuries ahead of Rome
      Sadly in 200AD lake Taupo (Night of Tau, Taurus) erupted and buried the entire island, very few survived, but some did, and their ancestors are still around to this day.
      They have the same language and stories as Palestinians, who speak Aramaic, like Jesus, and E Io te Ari Matea
      Which means the clear first month of the Calendar, and relates to Tammuz
      Hence the call in the Wilderness, Pan, E Io Matea calling out to his people
      Come out, come out of here my people, and so shall she deliver of of ye yea, up up up unto me, and in so that I might bring of ye yea some comfort.

    • @violenceislife1987
      @violenceislife1987 11 месяцев назад +3

      @@Uncanny_Mountain amazing

    • @Uncanny_Mountain
      @Uncanny_Mountain 8 месяцев назад

      @@jettyharrison4377 the T Bar cross or Cross of the Brazen Serpent comes from Lemnos of the Oddessy, and Hephaestus, aka Vulcan, aka Khasekhemwy founder of the Second Dynasty aka Og, ala Ogham ala King Og of the Celtic tradition, who was of the Celtoi Caibeiru, aka Kaetians aka Hittites, whom gave Beirut it's name, it represents the alignment of the Milky Way; the Nile in the Sky aka the Rainbow Serpent, they are complimentary aspects of the same tradition, whereas the X denotes the Lunar Maximum and Minimums as we know them, the Cross Quarter days of Valentine's aka Lupercalia, Cinque de Mayo, St Paddy's, Guy Fawkes etc
      Lemnos Island is also home to the Labyrinth and where Dionysus meets his wife Adriana, who is the daughter of the Architect of the Labyrinth, which is a metaphor of the Underworld and the path of reincarnation, from which I Eo emerges with Persephone, or Kore, Japan (Yo Paean) and Korea appear to mimic these titles, and in the oldest Shinto Shrine was a Mirror, and on the back of the mirror is written "I Am Me"
      The Anchor you mention is found in Spica, between Virgo and Bootes, the Shepard, and the head is across Taurus and Aries. It's also found in Moari Lore relating to a Great Ship that is depicted in the same way on Cycladic Pans from 3000BC.
      It's Astrological Allegory using Accusations in a Mirror, ergo a specific Star Chart, or Birth Chart.

  • @zachariahjock91190
    @zachariahjock91190 11 месяцев назад +300

    I am 98 percent northwest European. My family is of the Noble line of De Lalonde. We were part of the first 10,000 settlers of Quebec and they were all from Normandy.

    • @olfer07
      @olfer07 11 месяцев назад +41

      La majorité des 10 plus grandes familles québécoises sont normandes. Le Québec est, à toute fin pratique, une colonie normande.

    • @PortugalZeroworldcup
      @PortugalZeroworldcup 11 месяцев назад

      Does Georges Bizet, Joseph ducreux, Edith piaf, rene Descartes, Camille saint saens, Charles Garnier, Voltaire, Paul landowski august rodin, edgard varese, Claude Monet, Paul Cezanne Henri Matisse, represent you ??

    • @olfer07
      @olfer07 11 месяцев назад +12

      @@PortugalZeroworldcup what do you mean by that? His ancestors came to Nouvelle-France before all these people were born, except Descartes

    • @kiuk_kiks
      @kiuk_kiks 11 месяцев назад

      You’ll probably settle down and marry an Asian woman. White men are obsessed with them for whatever reason despite being anti-immigrant.

    • @RalphEllis
      @RalphEllis 11 месяцев назад +18

      The Norman were Vikings.
      The Vikings came from Scotland.
      The Scots and lrish came from Egypt. Read Scotichronicon, the ancient chronicle of the Scots. Or my book ‘Scota, Egyptian Queen of the Scots.’.
      Queen Scota was Ankhesenamun, the daughter of Akhenaton.
      R

  • @wodensreign9839
    @wodensreign9839 11 месяцев назад +62

    "Your mother was a hamster, and your father smelt of elder berries!"

    • @petuniasevan
      @petuniasevan 10 месяцев назад

      I always laughed at this Monty Python skit, because the insult is actually pretty serious. In modern parlance: "Your mother was a slut, and your father was a drunk!"

  • @CharlieBrownZero
    @CharlieBrownZero 11 месяцев назад +312

    Just look at the authors and the publication, absolute pottery.

    • @Anglisc1682
      @Anglisc1682 11 месяцев назад +38

      Yeah they seem TOTALLY trustworthy, don't they? Lol

    • @hasajada6863
      @hasajada6863 11 месяцев назад +39

      Absolute underwater basket weaving studies.😂😂😂🎉🎉🎉

    • @grimnirthehoodedone3354
      @grimnirthehoodedone3354 11 месяцев назад +21

      Based

    • @sporter527
      @sporter527 11 месяцев назад +5

      hmmmmmmmmm

    • @RalphEllis
      @RalphEllis 11 месяцев назад +3

      The Norman were Vikings.
      The Vikings came from Scotland.
      The Scots and lrish came from Egypt. Read Scotichronicon, the ancient chronicle of the Scots. Or my book ‘Scota, Egyptian Queen of the Scots.’.
      Queen Scota was Ankhesenamun, the daughter of Akhenaton.
      Note: The Amarna dynasty of Akhenaton was white-ginger.
      You can see the mummies of Yuya and Tuyu in the Egyptian museum.
      This is true ginger, not a henna dye.
      R

  • @Pretani_Chieftain
    @Pretani_Chieftain 11 месяцев назад +147

    I personally directly descend from a Frankish-Breton noble (the son of a Frankish man and Breton upper class woman) who participated in the Normon conquest of England. I was found with the Ydna Haplogroup R1b-U106 which is common among all Germanic peoples.
    I think it’s safe to say that this “article” was used as anti-European propaganda to spread confusion among other Europeans. This was a subversive attack on Europeans who appreciate history and geneology and I have a feeling that papers like this are going to rapidly come out very soon.

    • @SandileNgwenya-gv7nx
      @SandileNgwenya-gv7nx 11 месяцев назад +3

      Your R1b-U106 is probably from Anglo Saxons rather than the Frankish-Breton noble

    • @chriselliott4621
      @chriselliott4621 11 месяцев назад

      Yea who hates Europeans the most?

    • @Pretani_Chieftain
      @Pretani_Chieftain 11 месяцев назад +4

      @@SandileNgwenya-gv7nx from what I’ve read the Franks during the Migration era we’re overwhelmingly R1b-U106 with a small minority with I2. So I think it’s safe to say that there’s a good chance my Ydna sample came from the Franks.

    • @TotalFreedomTTT-pk9st
      @TotalFreedomTTT-pk9st 11 месяцев назад

      @@Pretani_Chieftain Did you mean a small percentage of I1 (Scandinavian) ? or I2 (Balkan) ? I don't think R1b and I2 mixed much anywhere - but R1a and I2 mixed in the Balkans but wouldn't there be a bunch of I1 and R1b mixed up in North France ?

    • @Pretani_Chieftain
      @Pretani_Chieftain 11 месяцев назад +4

      @@TotalFreedomTTT-pk9st actually I2 is somewhat common among Rhine Germanic tribes. Even today some Germanic regions can be up to 10% I2.

  • @QuadrivialArts
    @QuadrivialArts 11 месяцев назад +142

    That French accent was so good I was almost certain Jacques Declosmenil was in the room with you.
    Also the look of glee on your face as you repeat quotes which are intended by their author to be grand revelations (i.e. Mesopotamian origins) is absolutely priceless.

    • @maryhaddock9145
      @maryhaddock9145 11 месяцев назад +5

      He is fantastic isn't he?

    • @sravasaksitam
      @sravasaksitam 9 месяцев назад +1

      lol what it was terrible

    • @Angle-saxon-94
      @Angle-saxon-94 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@sravasaksitamthe accent wæs spot on do you have a 👂 problem 🤡

    • @sravasaksitam
      @sravasaksitam 5 месяцев назад

      @@Angle-saxon-94 sounded more like drunk arabic than english in a french accent

  • @taybak8446
    @taybak8446 11 месяцев назад +34

    You are getting better and better. Your narration is quick, effective and well enunciated. Presentation and production are great too. Too bad we missed each other in September. Hopefully, we'll meet up soon.

  • @Mr.Skeleton.
    @Mr.Skeleton. 11 месяцев назад +73

    Love your content STJ! Keep pumping the hidden truths that have been suppressed against our folk. We are allowed to love our own just as everyone else is. No guilt or shame has ever been in me, only love and pride for my heritage. Just bc we love our brothers and sisters doesn’t mean we dislike anyone, but that’s how it’s twisted by “academia” and the media.

    • @samuraijosh1595
      @samuraijosh1595 11 месяцев назад

      so were your people descendants of jews? what a crazy world we live in...whites have become so paranoid of jewish dominance that they wish they'd descend from those same chosen people they despise to have equal footing.
      The Jews were chosen, you were not. Cry about it all you want.

    • @violenceislife1987
      @violenceislife1987 11 месяцев назад +2

      Everything is war propaganda

  • @robertprice5039
    @robertprice5039 11 месяцев назад +60

    My YDNA Haplogroup of N-M2783 and the surname of "Preuss" (Prussian - As in the Balic Prussian Tribe) on my great grandfather's baptismal certificate mesh pretty well together. My father's mother was very Norman, ancestry wise. Her father was born on the Isle of Jersey, and her Irish mother had a lot of Norman surnames in her family.

    • @sportsfisher9677
      @sportsfisher9677 11 месяцев назад +7

      I have descent from the Baltic Prussians too. We are rare now.

    • @admontblanc
      @admontblanc 11 месяцев назад +2

      @@sportsfisher9677 not that rare. You can find a lot spread throughout Germany.

    • @JRANDALL93
      @JRANDALL93 11 месяцев назад +3

      Isn't haplogroup N an Asian haplogroup?

    • @schuylerleithulfr788
      @schuylerleithulfr788 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@JRANDALL93 Finnic.

    • @verenatuna9010
      @verenatuna9010 11 месяцев назад +2

      ​​@@JRANDALL93 Exactly, N is of (Eastern)Asiatic origin and is also found amongst the population of Finland.

  • @tyburn1493
    @tyburn1493 11 месяцев назад +38

    Amusing and sad to see that the ridiculousness of the "British Israelite" craze of the powerful families of the late 19th century still continues. Another place you can see this in action is the lists of charitable trust funds, so many prioritise Jewish causes over indigenous ones despite being entirely Anglo in nature. Presumably a result of the nobility seeing which way the wind was blowing a few centuries ago and attempting to get in on the game, to their own discredit.

    • @matthewwood2638
      @matthewwood2638 11 месяцев назад +4

      See book "When Scotland was Jewish," in which 12 families of central Tennessee belonging to the "Melungeon" hillbilly minority group discover that they are Y chromosome descendants of Sephardic Jews who came from Scotland. Completely unexpected. You decide whether Alexander Montgomery, shown in the video, looks like a Jew or a Scot.

    • @Smoking_Man
      @Smoking_Man 4 месяца назад

      ​@@matthewwood2638shalom, officer

    • @Sonny-m1f
      @Sonny-m1f 2 месяца назад

      ​@@matthewwood2638dumb book. They hate us, but they want to be us. An they will never be us.

  • @skiveman
    @skiveman 11 месяцев назад +23

    Tom : Did the Normans descend from ancient Semitic kings of the line of David?
    Me: Eh, probably not, but let me get some coffee and cake to settle down for story hour......

  • @Armyjay
    @Armyjay 11 месяцев назад +15

    I love your debunking videos. One can see how much you enjoy doing it too. Keep ‘em coming!

  • @wkrapek
    @wkrapek 11 месяцев назад +21

    J2a is Graeco-Roman. It could also be Minoan since I’m pretty sure they traded up there. There was a J2a discovered in the Netherlands a few years back. There were two horse sacrifices, and he lived on an old Roman estate with water-heated floors.

    • @michaelpereira1471
      @michaelpereira1471 11 месяцев назад +1

      My J2a is of Norman descent and was found in the Minoans. I never considered that Minoans went there.

    • @Baryshx
      @Baryshx 3 месяца назад +1

      The Greco-Roman race is almost extinct, E is of Egyptian/African origin. Turk in J2, where is Greco-Roman?😅 Example, J2 Uighurs is Greco-roman?😝

    • @wkrapek
      @wkrapek 3 месяца назад +1

      @@Baryshx We Minoans are alive and well. The DNA makes it clear we’re the Sicilians, the Southern Italians, the Cretans (obviously), and the islanders up the west coast of Turkey. We also lived in Miletus. Which means we were the first philosophers and historians. :-)

  • @zzz23523
    @zzz23523 11 месяцев назад +173

    I'm German and my paterinal haplogroup is J2, my specific haplogroup however is only present in other Germans, so it's probably just from Neolithic farmers.
    Also I'm 0.0% Jewish ;)

    • @Based_Stuhlinger
      @Based_Stuhlinger 11 месяцев назад +43

      Based.

    • @JeffDesmond
      @JeffDesmond 11 месяцев назад +19

      Same here.

    • @K55365
      @K55365 11 месяцев назад +23

      You have to go back 😂

    • @zzz23523
      @zzz23523 11 месяцев назад +16

      @@K55365 😂Finally I can live in a warmer place

    • @skitidet4302
      @skitidet4302 11 месяцев назад +3

      "my specific haplogroup however is only present in other Germans" how did you prove that? Do you have access to a DNA vault containing the DNA of all known "subversive infiltrators"? If not, how could you tell they did not have your specific kind of J2 mutation? After all, nearly all of the "subversives" are Ashkenazi and thus have been deeply rooted amongst it's host.

  • @thegreenmage6956
    @thegreenmage6956 11 месяцев назад +57

    Fortress of Lugh relates the theory that Normans mixed with Bretons, explaining WHY the English now view Arthyr as THEIR hero.
    The Normans mixed with the Breton aristocracy, blending their genes AND their culture with their own.
    I like to think that the Normans somewhat brought Welsh and English together; we became more BRITISH than ever, with the Normans bringing that back in.
    And we always have been, ever since.
    GREAT Britain.
    Rule Britannia - Victory
    🇬🇧

    • @tmccabe9831
      @tmccabe9831 11 месяцев назад +10

      Let me blow some raspberries at you from Scotland! 😊

    • @SandileNgwenya-gv7nx
      @SandileNgwenya-gv7nx 11 месяцев назад +9

      English view Arthur as a hero because he's not actually real and his stories were of chivalry which in the middle ages were popular

    • @williambranch4283
      @williambranch4283 11 месяцев назад

      My father may be in that group ... Breton-Norman from 1000 years ago. But has been bred out long ago.

    • @Channel-sp3fp
      @Channel-sp3fp 11 месяцев назад +3

      @@SandileNgwenya-gv7nx The King Arthur we all know and love was a fictional character written by a Frenchman.

    • @unojayc
      @unojayc 11 месяцев назад +4

      Geoffrey of Monmouth possibly based Arthur on a 6 century poem describing a battle near Catterick in North Yorkshire. A young Brythonic hero called Gwawrddur is described as fighting valiantly against the Saxons.Reference the 13th century book of Aneirin.

  • @yamnayaseed356
    @yamnayaseed356 11 месяцев назад +53

    This is obviously false. The Normans like most Scandinavians were black Africans.

    • @bugzyhardrada3168
      @bugzyhardrada3168 11 месяцев назад +28

      Hakuna matata

    • @Jimmie2429
      @Jimmie2429 11 месяцев назад +19

      Don’t laugh. If the BBC did a program on this same topic that would be their conclusion.

    • @Katya_Lastochka
      @Katya_Lastochka 11 месяцев назад +5

      😂

    • @chasethehorizonx
      @chasethehorizonx 11 месяцев назад +6

      We WUZ

    • @ccoodd26
      @ccoodd26 11 месяцев назад +3

      No, they were definitely Khoi and San

  • @lostzephyr2191
    @lostzephyr2191 11 месяцев назад +51

    My paternal line is J2 that migrated from Sweden to Germany sometime between 800AD and 1500AD based on some Viking samples that I match. I'm a gentile.

    • @ConradAinger
      @ConradAinger 11 месяцев назад +8

      And a Nordic.

    • @lostzephyr2191
      @lostzephyr2191 11 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@ConradAinger Eh, not really, I'm afraid. DNA test put me at about 15% Scandinavian, but there's no Scandinavian ancestry in the last couple of centuries anywhere in my genealogical records. I'm an American that's mostly ethnically British (English, Irish, Scottish, and Welsh) with a German surname. My paternal ancestors were Nordic Vikings literally 1000 years ago, but that's about it.

    • @ConradAinger
      @ConradAinger 11 месяцев назад +2

      @lostzephyr2191 In broad terms then, how would you describe your ethnic identity? From what you say that sounds mixed - a bit Celtic maybe. But more Nordic than anything else, surely. ( Anglo-German myself.)
      I don't say this argumentitively. Not my business to tell you what you are. More in an academic sense.

    • @lostzephyr2191
      @lostzephyr2191 11 месяцев назад +3

      ​@@ConradAinger In terms of ethnicity I just think of myself as British or Celtic-Germanic. I'm 2/3rds British and the rest is German/Scandinavian, I say British because I have branches of the family from all four British Isles nations.

    • @aag3752
      @aag3752 11 месяцев назад +4

      @@ConradAinger I find Nordic and Germanic culture really cool. Especially the old pagan ways. I myself am Lebanese. We're a Mediterranean group (not genetically Arab). We have European ancestry too, because of our history and geographical location. Our genepool was shaped since Phoenician times, but was further mixed during the Byzantine. In my case, I have 13% northern European. Not that it's necessary to have a certain dna to connect with a culture or with heathen paganism. But it is cool to have a genetic connection as well imo.

  • @rebeccacorbin1590
    @rebeccacorbin1590 11 месяцев назад +11

    Thank you for this. I am getting tired of people trying to rewrite history.
    My family lineage Haplotype is also I1. As I am a female I rely on my father's and brother's DNA for that knowledge. My last name also traces back to the Normans.
    Thank you for keeping people honest.

    • @Uncanny_Mountain
      @Uncanny_Mountain 11 месяцев назад

      Rewrite history
      What an ignorant clod
      Because your feelings are now the gold standard of reality?
      Think they had the same attitude in the 1800s
      ...

  • @Galdring
    @Galdring 11 месяцев назад +24

    Another great video, Thomas.
    I would encourage everyone to download and store important research on politically incorrect topics on their computers. I am worried that more of it will be attempted wiped from the internet in the future. Sadly, the odds of that happening become greater the more we share this information, but I don't have a good alternative. This is an incredibly frustrating situation.
    My nightmare would be that the DNA itself will be destroyed to preserve some far left ideology. Our past might be lost for all future then, if we can't find more skeletons.

    • @LynxSouth
      @LynxSouth 11 месяцев назад +2

      You're right. In this situation, it's far better to be safe than sorry.

    • @elliewall7621
      @elliewall7621 11 месяцев назад

      It is not only true for DNA studies. On ancestry research websites, family trees are being erased completely or replaced with unsupported nonsense. My own family tree had five generations erased three different times. Other people have reported the same problems. It is not clear who is doing this, but apparently once someone subscribes to a genealogy website, they are then free to roam wherever they want and erase or change other peoples' family trees. I suspect it is wokesters (ie marxists), trying to erase European American family histories. These days marxists seem to be very determined to destroy European culture and heritage. We must be posing a hindrance to their political agenda for them to be so determined to eradicate our identity.

    • @LilyGazou
      @LilyGazou 10 месяцев назад +2

      Download, store offline.
      And create real libraries- books.
      That’s what I’m doing.

  • @JedHelmers
    @JedHelmers 11 месяцев назад +15

    Nice video!
    One note: Semitic means descended from Shem. "Semitic" as a language-family basically means the languages that developed amongst the descendants of Shem. Who actually knows how far back Noah and his children go.

    • @albintorso6107
      @albintorso6107 10 месяцев назад +4

      Nobody wants to believe in biblical fairy tales

    • @curlyfries2956
      @curlyfries2956 8 месяцев назад +3

      @@albintorso6107we respect paganism and atheism so please respect our beliefs. Even if you don’t believe it, Jesus loves you 🙏🏾❤️

    • @theCosmicQueen
      @theCosmicQueen 4 месяца назад +1

      a lot of people have at least one semitic ancestor, even if they don' t like that fact. Because the earliest Israelite diaspora came to europe via southestern europe's rivers and travel routes. Danes= Dan. they call thier country DANmark, and left thier name in cities and river names all along the route. It's why thier country is so small, they were not a large tribe and came later than the neolithics, celts, and germanics. ( about 2500 years ago they came). They were semites and Hebrews, but NOT Jews ( of Judah); the smaller group the Jutes, their neighbors, however were . They obviously mixed with the locals, and lost most of thier memory of thier origin. They would have different haplogroups than to day's Jews, as it's not the same tribe and there have also been additions of other people into t he gene pools.

    • @JedHelmers
      @JedHelmers 4 месяца назад

      @@theCosmicQueen I love this stuff

  • @andersschmich8600
    @andersschmich8600 11 месяцев назад +27

    In all seriousness, J2a is a CHG Haplogroup, so it would have had ample opportunity to enter Europe.

    • @matrixxx3662
      @matrixxx3662 11 месяцев назад +4

      Since it came from the Caucasus, they split and mixed with different populations. One group moved to West Asia and other migrated to Central Asia and later to Russia where they mixed with EHG to later form the Yamnaya culture. So the J2 carriers of Europe and J2 carriers In West Asia have completely different layers for forefathers and very distant from each other from a genetically and phonetically.

    • @andersschmich8600
      @andersschmich8600 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@matrixxx3662 Well said.

    • @schuylerleithulfr788
      @schuylerleithulfr788 11 месяцев назад +2

      @@matrixxx3662 100% Northern European and I'm J2a. Can trace my paternal line to a village near York, back to the 1400s.
      It's J2-L26 too. Associated with Caucasians. Exactly like you said.

    • @bocchithean-cap3404
      @bocchithean-cap3404 11 месяцев назад

      ​@matrixxx3662
      No CHG was a west Asian group that mixed with EHG and then entered Europe
      You're not completely different from west Asians your FST mark is less than 1%

    • @matrixxx3662
      @matrixxx3662 11 месяцев назад

      @@bocchithean-cap3404 Once you mix a lot, that haplogroup is going to be like an empty shell. It will be just like a book cover. For instance you had proto Indo-Iranians who mixed with the locals of South Asia. After many generations there was nothing left of the original phenotype and genotype. Thats why you have a lot of R1a carreirs In India for example but none of them look or share the same genotpye as those who conquered the place.
      This alos happened with the Gok Turks when they conquered Anatolia. No Turkic dna found In modern Turkish people. Because their conqueres mixed with countless foreign women that those East Asian features and the later generation completely faded away. You have R1a carreirs from Iran who are like 73% Neolithic farmer and only 14% steppe when you look at their autosmall dna.

  • @BristolMatt
    @BristolMatt 11 месяцев назад +7

    You are brilliant bud. I love how you take down these monsters who hate us.

  • @nenirouvelliv
    @nenirouvelliv 11 месяцев назад +8

    Funnily enough, my maternal Finnish-Swedish grandpa's lineage is also J2a, I know that his lineage goes back to at least to the middle ages here in Finland and the particular sub-haplogroup is shared by the Montgomery clan. J2a could've basically come from anywhere since it was pretty common among the Romans and the Greeks.

  • @Wuldrian
    @Wuldrian 11 месяцев назад +5

    You are an under appreciated gem in this field and I reckon in the future you will be considered a bastion of light in these politicized times.

  • @koosh138
    @koosh138 11 месяцев назад +18

    My own dna tests came back with Persian DNA included. My ancestors were absolutely of Norman ancestry. (Read the Irish Hendrix Coat of Arms) I found out the the Persian ancestor was only introduced around 1800 after my ancestors got to America.

    • @jasonbritt2497
      @jasonbritt2497 11 месяцев назад +4

      If you are R1A or R1B that makes sense. Both are the predominant haplotypes in Persia and Europe. The haplotypes originated out of the Black Sea area, Ararat/Caucaus Mts. Part of the group migrated north and the other into Persia.
      When looking at these DNA migration patterns keep in mind timelines. Where do we believe first civilization started? Persia, then spread west. Not as they would have you believe out of Africa and spread east that doesn’t fit archaeological records.
      Another important feature to note.
      R1A and R1B are the only 2 haplotypes capable of producing blue eyes and both mother and father must share this in their ancestory.
      Any king, queen, Pharoes, emperor, war lord, chieftain etc that is depicted with blue eyes had to have had both mother and father possessing R1A or R1B

    • @TheManOnlyLegend
      @TheManOnlyLegend 8 месяцев назад +1

      Not true, there are blacks in Africa and Asians in Asia with blue eyes
      They may be an exception but once an exception is established,,,well... The "both parent must" goes down

    • @jasonbritt2497
      @jasonbritt2497 8 месяцев назад

      @@TheManOnlyLegend um….. just bc there is exceptions doesn’t take away from nature/genetics requiring an x and Y chromosome possessing the trait requirement…..
      a male that has it in his dna will never be able to produce the trait with a female that doesn’t have it and never has in her bloodline

    • @curlyfries2956
      @curlyfries2956 8 месяцев назад

      @@TheManOnlyLegendso are the Africans Europeans? Genuine question

    • @Beastlyeditzz
      @Beastlyeditzz 6 месяцев назад

      ​@@TheManOnlyLegendYeah but they are mixed

  • @wetstoffels3198
    @wetstoffels3198 11 месяцев назад +65

    Always considered J2 to be associated most strongly with Caucasus Hunter Gatherers and Anatolian Farmers.

    • @EM-tx3ly
      @EM-tx3ly 11 месяцев назад +6

      Turks mostly

    • @Light_spot_
      @Light_spot_ 11 месяцев назад +36

      It's not a Turkic " mongoloid " / east Asian marker , Turks ( as in nationals of turkey) are for most parts turkified Anatolians and Caucasians.

    • @matrixxx3662
      @matrixxx3662 11 месяцев назад +2

      Yes

    • @maryhaddock9145
      @maryhaddock9145 11 месяцев назад +2

      J2O is associated with a very sweet bottle of drink.

    • @wetstoffels3198
      @wetstoffels3198 11 месяцев назад +11

      @@EM-tx3ly Ingush people have the highest proportion of J2 at 89%. They live just north of the Caucasus mountains and have an intermediate physical appearance between Indo-Europeans and Middle-Easterners.

  • @ccebes1
    @ccebes1 11 месяцев назад +4

    It's so awesome someone cares enough to set the record straight.

  • @Khanitothedon
    @Khanitothedon 11 месяцев назад +38

    As a J2 I can only thank you for clearing our name so eloquently… many thanks

    • @bearcingetorix6326
      @bearcingetorix6326 11 месяцев назад +5

      Did he clear it? He seemed to kick it into the garbage.

    • @matrixxx3662
      @matrixxx3662 11 месяцев назад +6

      @@bearcingetorix6326 Because it’s has no origin In Europe. Closest is the Caucasus. Because that’s where it came from.

    • @Khanitothedon
      @Khanitothedon 11 месяцев назад +10

      @@bearcingetorix6326 not at all my friend J2 can never be said to be semetic in origin and why would we want to claim another people’s history when ours is good enough for us.
      Please explain why descending from Hebrews would benefit any European outside of a judeo/christian or crusader context?

    • @bocchithean-cap3404
      @bocchithean-cap3404 11 месяцев назад

      ​@@Khanitothedon J2 is related to Iranians turks armenians Georgians
      None are semitic

    • @ALeaud
      @ALeaud 11 месяцев назад

      You're Jewish

  • @voltairedentotalenkrieg5147
    @voltairedentotalenkrieg5147 11 месяцев назад +48

    Is this a contempory rehash of British Israelism?

    • @Survivethejive
      @Survivethejive  11 месяцев назад +43

      It seems to have similar motivations in my opinion

    • @nobody-special000
      @nobody-special000 11 месяцев назад +8

      "nooo don't send communists after us we're totally Jewish too!"

    • @NoahBodze-pm9ok
      @NoahBodze-pm9ok 5 месяцев назад +5

      We wuz Nomanz and oy vey.

  • @willbaro5879
    @willbaro5879 10 месяцев назад +3

    Downloaded this, seemed like content of signficant importance. Thanks STJ, brilliant stuff. Have a good one.

  • @voltairedentotalenkrieg5147
    @voltairedentotalenkrieg5147 11 месяцев назад +5

    "Ulvungar is another name for Ylinglingaette. This project is designed to link all surnames associated with one another that have a common male ancestor to various Dynasties such as Ylingling, Munso, Merovingian, Capetian, Robertian, Wolfing ect.
    Our earliest DNA is from Ergolding ( 670 AD ), and links us to the Merovingian Dynasty without question through the work of Dr.Vanek and Koch."

  • @csrencz6942
    @csrencz6942 11 месяцев назад +8

    I didn’t know Tom spoke French so well.

  • @qboxer
    @qboxer 11 месяцев назад +4

    Good video. I will note that most studies seem to place Ashkenazi Jews at anywhere from 40-60% European (mostly Southern), so it’s anyone’s guess how much of their supposedly Semitic markers are even truly from there, or rather from Ancient European Farmer DNA that is quite prevalent in Southern Europeans.

  • @chloe-historyandgames
    @chloe-historyandgames 11 месяцев назад +16

    the idiocy of protesters still amazes me to this day

  • @TheBlahman3
    @TheBlahman3 11 месяцев назад +25

    inb4 "muh jacob and esau" comments
    Jacob and Esau were twins, which means they had the same DNA, which means...uh oh 😰 Thanks Tom for clarifying we're not da troo Israelites

    • @danieldelaney1377
      @danieldelaney1377 11 месяцев назад +1

      Lmao jew obsessed Christian schitzos

    • @samuraijosh1595
      @samuraijosh1595 11 месяцев назад

      Isrealite > white. Dont @ me, thats what the bible says.

    • @TheBlahman3
      @TheBlahman3 11 месяцев назад

      @@samuraijosh1595 Please show me even one source outside of the fictional (((bible))) to back this up. Thanks.

    • @admontblanc
      @admontblanc 11 месяцев назад +2

      Unfortunately most of the people who believe that crap will happily disregard real findings that disagree with their beliefs.

    • @matrixxx3662
      @matrixxx3662 11 месяцев назад

      @@samuraijosh1595Israelites weren’t real. The Sumerians were though. There are monuments and statues and paintings on how they looked like. For instance they had long noses like majority In West Asia with dark hair and probably eyes. I bet the Anatolian, Levantine and Zagrosian farmers had these traits as well. Majority of West Asian population are homogenous. Which is to be expected with all the Inbreeding and marrying cousins and all. There is minimal European and African dna from these populations.

  • @curiosityC
    @curiosityC 11 месяцев назад +2

    Congratulations to the clearity of sound in this video.

  • @jakehealy5288
    @jakehealy5288 11 месяцев назад +3

    Great video-very informative! I agree that the J2 Haplogroup found in Northwestern Europe derived from ancient Greek and Roman conquests and isn't exclusive to the Middle East. Eastern European countries had the gene for thousands of years, too.

  • @draoi99
    @draoi99 11 месяцев назад +16

    I remember reading in the 1980s the book The Holy Blood and The Holy Grail. Among other things, the book claimed the Merovingian kings carried the bloodline of Jesus. It was a fun read and was rebooted in the form of The Da Vinci Code.

    • @greatjohnnym
      @greatjohnnym 11 месяцев назад +4

      I read it as well

    • @allenwilhelm7799
      @allenwilhelm7799 11 месяцев назад +8

      It was a fun book. Total bunk but a great read

    • @Scottie444
      @Scottie444 11 месяцев назад +1

      Still have a copy on the bookshelf....next to the Bible 😅

    • @Survivethejive
      @Survivethejive  11 месяцев назад +9

      Eric Hugh Montgomery doesn’t like da vinci code

    • @Scottie444
      @Scottie444 11 месяцев назад +7

      @@Survivethejive I'm pretty sure Da Vinci wouldn't too 👍🏻

  • @midmiddleton163
    @midmiddleton163 11 месяцев назад +14

    It gets old when people try to make up our history about our people...Also...I like your point about Odin. He is a God.

    • @Madonnalitta1
      @Madonnalitta1 11 месяцев назад +4

      Hail the One-eye

    • @theCosmicQueen
      @theCosmicQueen 4 месяца назад

      but originally was a human and they made him into a a mythical god. or he was a nephilim. because he has human lineage and descendants.

    • @Gobrech
      @Gobrech Месяц назад

      ​@@theCosmicQueenobviously he has some early societ origins, probably some chieftain, but that's basically making all gods like zues and hades subject to this sper

  • @crixusthenorman1603
    @crixusthenorman1603 11 месяцев назад +14

    You can find plenty of Norman descendants in Quebec. They have very extensive genealogy records dating back to the 1600s and many of their surnames are of Norman decent. It is such a small genepool.

    • @s.thomas3289
      @s.thomas3289 11 месяцев назад +2

      You are right. On my father’s side, we have the hole genealogy way back to Rouen, Normandie in the 1700s. It is impressive. Thanks to the Catholic Church who kept all the records of the french Canadians population.

    • @BumboLooks
      @BumboLooks 11 месяцев назад

      @@s.thomas3289 You can also thank the present day Catholic church for kissing the shoes of Islamic immigrants...

    • @crixusthenorman1603
      @crixusthenorman1603 11 месяцев назад +2

      @s.thomas3289 Yes, correct. I can trace my mother's side back to Zachary Cloutier. We have Hebert, Cote, Samson and others in my lineage. My sister did a DNA test that shows roots in France and the St Lawrence basin. It also shows traces of Irish, Wales, Sweden to name a few.
      The Quebecois also didn't really mix with any other ethnicities, so it's almost like a time capsule of pure Norman DNA that millions of french Canadians and even Anglo Canadians share

    • @jadeaube
      @jadeaube 11 месяцев назад +3

      @@s.thomas3289 Same with me, can trace both sides back to Normandy from the founding of Quebec

    • @eddy_malouempereur_du_cong6536
      @eddy_malouempereur_du_cong6536 11 месяцев назад +1

      Many expression of Québec french come from Norman dialecte

  • @denis3208
    @denis3208 11 месяцев назад +9

    I heard Disney characters like Pluto and Goofy are also descended from ancient Semitic kings 😂🤣😂🤣

  • @maryhaddock9145
    @maryhaddock9145 11 месяцев назад +2

    I love Simon Webb's History Debunked channel (currently suspended for a week due to discussing Covid) but Survive the Jive truly does debunk the false history being told nowadays.

    • @belstar1128
      @belstar1128 11 месяцев назад

      Survive the Jive doesn't talk about covid he sticks to early history so there is less controversy.

  • @tancreddehauteville764
    @tancreddehauteville764 11 месяцев назад +7

    The J haplogroup simply indicates ancestry from ancient neolithic farmers - that's all. It does not necessarily indicate Jewish or Arab ancestry. Many people with J1 or J2 haplogroup do not look remotely middle eastern.

    • @_InTheBin
      @_InTheBin 4 месяца назад +1

      lol! How should they? Y-chromosomes aren't of any phenotype markers at all! 🤣

    • @theCosmicQueen
      @theCosmicQueen 4 месяца назад

      " middle eastern" lol, i think you are sterotyping them. there have always been mideasterners including shemites, who may look very european and in all colors of hair and eyes, and light to medium color of skin. It's original to them, not gotten from europeans. but we got some of thier blood, not from Judah necessarily but other semites, in very ancient times.

  • @kentuckianaboy
    @kentuckianaboy 11 месяцев назад +4

    Mr. Rowsell, I remember reading up on your Grandfather, the Lieutenant. Are you named after him? You must be proud to be descended from such a historically rich and aristocratic family. Happy Yule!

  • @Leman.Russ.6thLegion
    @Leman.Russ.6thLegion 11 месяцев назад +9

    Dude. The Montgomery guy just wants banks to pay for his stuff. "Look! I'm a banker too!"

  • @kathywolf4558
    @kathywolf4558 11 месяцев назад +1

    It is shameful how agendas interfere with facts and studies about ancient times, cultures, science, archeology and irrefutable DNA.
    This is very interesting as I had wondered about the Normans and if they were Celtic tribe(s) of some sort. Thank you.

  • @therealmcgoy4968
    @therealmcgoy4968 11 месяцев назад +7

    I am a significant amount of Irish background (50%) and ofcourse the rest is English and Scottish (lowlands mostly)… also American by citizenship. My last name is Norman but found mostly in Ireland or Irish Anglo-Norman (my great grandfathers parents were from Watersford). My haplogroup however is not Norman (Norse) or Celtic, but actually Anglo Saxon (I-Z63). Infact a large percentage of people who are Irish with my surname have the same exact haplogroup. This isn’t really a surprise when I looked up the local history of south east Ireland (the local language was Yola not Gaelic, which is a dialect of Middle English). In the Middle Ages a lot of English were brought over as mercenaries or artisans and workers. I traced my haplogroups journey from Northern Germany (where it is also common) all the way to England (some I-Z63 went east with the Goths and then south). To Wales and then to Ireland. It’s rare but not impossible to find the more Norse Norman haplogroups. The original de Poer was a Norman however 99% of his followers to Ireland were mostly Welsh, English and Flemish. I-Z63 is not a Nordic subclade but entirely continental Europe having branched off early from the Nordic I haplogroup.

    • @OccidentalAryan
      @OccidentalAryan 11 месяцев назад +3

      I've seen you commenting on blackpill videos.

    • @dirksharp9876
      @dirksharp9876 11 месяцев назад +1

      If you have the phylogeny for certain then your Y-DNA may well be Anglo-Saxon. But I1-Z63 is not at all exclusive to them and is also found among burials of Normans, Vikings, Goths, Franks, Lombards and many other historical groups. The only reason it's not considered "Scandinavian" is because it seems to have poured out of the Scandinavian peninsula entirely. It almost certainly came from Iron Age Jutland. The lads just wanted to GTFO I guess. Iirc it's one of, if not the most common branch of I1 outside of Scandinavia and dispersed throughout Europe.

    • @therealmcgoy4968
      @therealmcgoy4968 11 месяцев назад +2

      @@OccidentalAryanI’m blackpilled lol… I like history and genealogy though.

    • @therealmcgoy4968
      @therealmcgoy4968 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@dirksharp9876well in theory I-Z63 is pre Migration era (Bronze Age period) however I-Z63 branched off from the Nordic I’s and ended up in northern Germany. Its downstreams went east and west during migration era. I-Z63 though has been found basically everywhere the Goths, Franks and Anglo Saxons travelled. There are people in Italy, Spain, Portugal, England, Germany, Scottish lowlands who have it. It’s absent in Scandinavia though which is why I don’t believe it is Norman.
      Also the part of Ireland my great grandparents come from was within the Pale which is historically the Norman/Old English part of Ireland. Yola the language spoken there is entirely related to Middle English (Yola was spoken up until the 18th century I believe). I can only assume the English migration to this part of Ireland was significant enough that it changed the local language from Gaelic culture to a creole English language (with some Gaelic influence).

    • @therealmcgoy4968
      @therealmcgoy4968 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@dirksharp9876 You are right it’s basically a migration era however the downstreams that went east and west sort of determine your ancestors route. Originally I thought I was descended from the Normans until I took FTDNA full Y analysis. But the Normans also get Breton/Celtic associated haplogroups because some came from Brittany France.

  • @Sam-lm8gi
    @Sam-lm8gi 11 месяцев назад +2

    The title of the video kind of scared me. I have Scoto-Norman ancestry on my father's side. Thank you for expounding upon that study.

    • @DRsideburns
      @DRsideburns 11 месяцев назад

      Scared? wtf lol what were you scared of

  • @carrdoug99
    @carrdoug99 11 месяцев назад +11

    Thanks for all your hard work in exposing these charlatans. I always wonder why people making origin story claims like this are never related to scullery maids or stable boys.

    • @maryhaddock9145
      @maryhaddock9145 11 месяцев назад +1

      Another great comment! There seems to be a lot of decent chaps watching Survivd the Jive.

    • @Uncanny_Mountain
      @Uncanny_Mountain 11 месяцев назад +1

      Thank you for conforming to my personal feelings of my own infallibility, because I'm the arbiter of all that is holy and good
      Very secular 😂

  • @JovanovicTheNightOwl
    @JovanovicTheNightOwl 11 месяцев назад +23

    I anticipated that the woke team might release a certain paper before you, perhaps titled 'Monty is an Arab.' Undoubtedly, they might utilize this finding in an article without acknowledging the sources like Yfull and ftDNA. However, these genetic databases assert that the J2 haplogroup has existed in Europe since the early Bronze Age, if not earlier, even extending back to the neolithic period. It's important to note that one's identity isn't solely defined by their haplogroup. Culture, heritage across various ancestral lines, and a set of personal values shape who we are. If haplogroups were the sole determinants of identity, then the R1b (R-V88) people in central Africa would speak admiringly of their pale European ancestors from Lepensky Vir.

    • @Fgway
      @Fgway 11 месяцев назад +2

      Through my life there has been a kind of African who is oddly familiar. I never could figure out why and there are at least two myths on the topic. This may be the basis of one.
      Thanks for the detail

    • @JovanovicTheNightOwl
      @JovanovicTheNightOwl 11 месяцев назад +6

      Before Rome, the Greeks contributed to the spread of J2a, and prior to them were the Mycenaeans. There are numerous branches of J2a. The specific branch to which some of the Montgomerys belong is known as J2a-Z6055>Y14439. Interestingly, the sub-branch J-Z36834, which runs parallel to J-Y14439, appears in ancient sites in Greece among the Minoans. If you examine J-Z35788 on ftDNA, or J-Y16842 on Yfull, you'll notice that this particular branch diverged from others over 4000 years ago, during the Bronze Age. Therefore, theoretically, I could trace the path of the Montgomerys as follows: Mycenaean civilization - Ancient Greece - Rome - Gaul - Francia. Within the territory of Francia, in an unclear manner to us, one of them became part of the Norman elite. This might have occurred through dynastic marriages or through the demonstration of their own capabilities. In short, they have no connections over the last 4000 years with figures like Hammurabi, Ashurbanipal, and similar.

    • @DJWESG1
      @DJWESG1 11 месяцев назад +1

      Biological determinism hasn't been this popular in years..

    • @BumboLooks
      @BumboLooks 11 месяцев назад

      Well no.... Haplogroups simply aren't genomes...
      Two completely unrelated people can share a haplogroup even though their genomes are very distant. Your R1b is a good example of that.
      No, you don't magically become European via cultural heritage lol. That's antiwhite leftist territory you're entering there.

  • @hurricane_party
    @hurricane_party 11 месяцев назад +8

    I’m Portuguese American and was surprised when my Haplogroup wasn’t R1b since that’s the most prevalent in Portugal, but showed I was a subclade of J2 called J-M319 which looks to be from Greeks living on the island of Crete. As well as Greek, I have some Sardinian mixed in there which was surprising. I know Lisbon was sort of founded by ancient Greeks but my family’s from the North of Portugal in Viana do Castelo and Braga which was predominantly Celtic and Suebi-Visigothic back then. I don’t consider myself particularly ethnic looking in appearance and most people would consider me white. I haven’t found a lot of documentation to read about JM319 so I feel a little left in the dark. Insightful video as always; I glean so much knowledge from your presentations, although I’m Christian of Anglican/ Episcopal tradition and not a pagan, I still find your exegeses really compelling and have learned a great deal about Pre-Romanized ancient Europe.

    • @michaelpereira1471
      @michaelpereira1471 11 месяцев назад +1

      I'm in the same subclade, M319. I think my ancestor was a Norman. Pereira and Perry both overlap. Do you think there is a connection between the names through the Normans?

    • @michaelpereira1471
      @michaelpereira1471 11 месяцев назад +1

      I'm Celtic. That's weird! North of Portugal is suppose to be Celtic especially Tras Os Montes. There's definitely more to this. I know about Jogo de pau by the way!

    • @ViriatoII
      @ViriatoII 10 месяцев назад

      I'm north portuguese, cheers! Still have to do Y chromosome sequencing, but my autosomal DNA is 33% related to Celtic samples and 28% to iberian, as well as 10% Italic and 8% north African. Phenotypically I look central European, I live in Germany and people often think I'm German or French

  • @Samuel32425
    @Samuel32425 11 месяцев назад +8

    And Central Africans with R1b are descended from various European Royals, or that Finns, Udmurts, Sami and Baltic people are descended from an ancient Chinese dynasty carrying N3, or that Slavs descended from Aryans from India with R1a (large emphasis on FROM India), or that Serbs are actually the true Aryans with I2 (don't tell them it's meant to be I1) who gave culture to Europeans in the North, or that Caucasian Hunter-Gatherers descend from the line of David with J2 (it's in the bible), or that the random Norwegian who god-forbid has carried Q since the ANE is actually descended from Khan and the Mongol expansion (they totally fucked up Scandinavia), or that Greeks are actually Africans with E from Royal Black lines (they really were kings), or that Mongols carrying R descend from the Bell-Beaker expansion into Mongolia. Funny how irrelevant haplogroups become when you ONLY look at them with this type of thinking, forgetting their expansions are complicated, make little sense in some cases or are outright mysteries (not even including subclades). Just because one group carries a type of haplogroup, doesn't mean they descend from you or you descend from them. It's a gross way to attempt to overwrite a persons thought on self with this kind of dogma.

    • @bocchithean-cap3404
      @bocchithean-cap3404 11 месяцев назад

      The R1b subclade in africans is related to middle east

    • @hrmor77
      @hrmor77 4 месяца назад

      Slavs aren't descended from Indians😂

  • @andybarry3435
    @andybarry3435 11 месяцев назад +21

    Since when was it important for Frenchmen to claim Arabic heritage 😂

    • @mmhthree
      @mmhthree 11 месяцев назад

      So, it'll a-ok that they get conquered by people from there and north africa. I guess.. it's only our same people coming here, they'll say...

  • @user-wk7qw5wn3q
    @user-wk7qw5wn3q 11 месяцев назад +6

    I was surprised that so little research has been done, or made public, showing the Y-DNA haplogroups of Norman families. Did a "Big Y-700" test through Family Tree DNA and got a result for a R1b grouping that originates in Bronze Age Scandinavia, one (distantly) related to that of the Scottish Clan Dunbar.
    Despite that, it's hard to say just when that Scandinavian R1b came to Britain and whether it was with the Anglo-Saxons, the Norse, or the Normans.
    It would be helpful if more academic testing was done on Y-DNA at that 700 STR level. I'm assuming it's an issue of expense.

    • @carnivoreRon
      @carnivoreRon 11 месяцев назад

      Most R1b arrived in Britain about 2,500 BCE with the Bell Breaker invasion.

  • @michaellapalice3068
    @michaellapalice3068 10 месяцев назад +1

    I am Michael Enguehard dit Engards Lapalice , and have been Canadian for over 300 years , my family came here from Normandy , and many remain there and in France ,Germany ,Russia ,Italy , all over the world we have spread , I would love to find out even more .

  • @screwstatists7324
    @screwstatists7324 11 месяцев назад +7

    As a Christian, this is interesting towards contributing to debunking the Anglo-semite apologetic. I know it's another issue but it is prolific and related. It is an old tired meme and I would be happy to put it to rest. Christians should embrace ethical universals, not ethnic apologetics, as the core of our religion. love your work, Tom, keep it up! Dream big, one day I hope you can have your own film studio and produce not just documentaries but feature-length films. hail victory

    • @aag3752
      @aag3752 11 месяцев назад +1

      What is Anglo-Semite apologetics? I haven't heard of that one

    • @whityard
      @whityard 11 месяцев назад +3

      ​@@aag3752People who say that Anglo-Saxons were the "true Israelites" and that they are named after Isaac's Sons, Danes named after Daniel etc. Pure horseshit stuff.

    • @aag3752
      @aag3752 11 месяцев назад

      @@whityard Well you tagged the wrong person. But I agree.

  • @Ahalya190
    @Ahalya190 10 месяцев назад +1

    I love videos like this. I don’t belong to any group of people mentioned in the video but it’s still interesting. Never quit RUclips

  • @xenym
    @xenym 11 месяцев назад +3

    Really enjoyable and enlightening. Thanks.

  • @hoos.crypto
    @hoos.crypto 11 месяцев назад +2

    Excellent video Tom. Thanks for sharing your work and analysis with us.

  • @BrigantinosDoRoudos
    @BrigantinosDoRoudos 2 месяца назад +4

    Can you do a video debunking the "Danes = Tribe of Dan" nonsense? It should be easy enough but I'm stuck edging an aneurism every time it comes up

    • @Survivethejive
      @Survivethejive  2 месяца назад +4

      It isn’t necessary to debunk something so stupid

  • @___-_____-
    @___-_____- 11 месяцев назад +2

    Love this topic. My surname is Norman as well and because it’s a fairly popular name with a clear path to find my ancestors I was able to trace it back to the year 755 AD. I had to go through French ancestry pages which was a lot of fun. Lee - Leigh - De La Leigh - De vernerables - before this the names were different with every father and some don’t have last names I could find but had nicknames instead

  • @jamesstrong88336
    @jamesstrong88336 11 месяцев назад +3

    Anglo-Norman here, Keep up the good work Tom!

  • @williamcathcart7994
    @williamcathcart7994 11 месяцев назад +2

    Thank you. I enjoy your work. Merry Christmas.

  • @JDKDKDLDKDKDKDKKKDERYY
    @JDKDKDLDKDKDKDKKKDERYY 11 месяцев назад +39

    your french accent is very accurate

    • @elbuggo
      @elbuggo 11 месяцев назад +3

      I had no idea he even is good at that!

    • @iberius9937
      @iberius9937 11 месяцев назад +1

      You should hear his Irish traveler accent!

    • @maryhaddock9145
      @maryhaddock9145 11 месяцев назад

      ​@@iberius9937is it good? Post a link.

    • @theCosmicQueen
      @theCosmicQueen 4 месяца назад

      @@maryhaddock9145 my grandmother came from france and his version of the accent is partially similar. really it's stereotype.

  • @Annatar
    @Annatar 11 месяцев назад +6

    As far as I know, there's only one clade of J2 that is "Semitic" and it's only Semitic in language. J1 and J2 are primarily Caucasian (both Indo-European and not, like Georgians). At some point, a clade of J2 started overtaking the Semitic E1b1 in the middle east, probably because of the Turks, who came into the middle east already heavily mixed with other steppe peoples, and perhaps even much earlier (gutians and kura-araxes)

    • @MoorFas-gy3dw
      @MoorFas-gy3dw 11 месяцев назад

      j1 and j2 are chg and iran hunter gatherers haplagroups they spread in the western middle east in the calcholitic they displaced E1b1b G and t that was higher in the middle east the spread of j1 and j2 came from iran neolithic pre steppe input and pre turkic

  • @willmosse3684
    @willmosse3684 11 месяцев назад +2

    Re. the proportion of Norse vs French ancestry in the Normans, Matt Easton did a great video tracing the genealogy of William the Conquerer on his Schola Gladiatoria channel. It showed that, with all the marriages to indigenous French noble women, though William was Norse on his patrilineal line, and therefore Y-haplogroup presumably, he was probably only about 20% Norse overall/autosomally, and 80% French (though note that the margin of error was quite large due to a couple of unknown mothers). But an interesting result. It’s only a sample size of one. But a very important one.

  • @Astavyastataa
    @Astavyastataa 11 месяцев назад +3

    All things aside, that thumbnail is hilarious.

  • @GamingGalore64
    @GamingGalore64 10 месяцев назад +2

    Fascinating. I have been trying to trace my paternal line back to 1066. My family name is Culley, and I'm supposedly Norman, at least according to everything that my father's family has been saying for the last few hundred years. I've gotten back into the 1300s reliably, and based on land records I can see that my family can go back further, to 1066, but there are gaps. I can see Culleys living on the same lands as my ancestors, but once I go back into the 1200s I no longer know who specifically I'm actually descended from, I can just trace the family back, but not individuals. Once you go beyond the 1300s things get a lot less precise. Supposedly, I am descended from a companion of William the Conqueror, and based on the circumstantial evidence I have I think that's the case, but I cannot 100% prove it. I was unaware of these Y DNA tests, perhaps they can help me either prove or disprove my Norman heritage!

  • @LearnHittite
    @LearnHittite 11 месяцев назад +5

    That French accent was spot on.

  • @11secghia
    @11secghia 11 месяцев назад +1

    De Lanoy here! Love some of our true history!
    True fact :Charlemange's mother was a princess of the house of Judah!

  • @voltairedentotalenkrieg5147
    @voltairedentotalenkrieg5147 11 месяцев назад +5

    You might say Eric Hugh Montgomery wants to be a J2 or a J too.
    Or he claims that a Norman went from a J2a Germanic, or a J too a Germanic.

  • @thomasspicer4130
    @thomasspicer4130 11 месяцев назад +2

    How do we know that some vestiges of J2a aren’t in France and England from the Neolithic period as you say or from the Romans I’m so glad you brought this up 👌🏻

  • @bottlethrower1544
    @bottlethrower1544 11 месяцев назад +6

    What about the African heritage of vikings that I heard about on the BBC?

  • @bellaususfitzpinguidpalate8732
    @bellaususfitzpinguidpalate8732 11 месяцев назад

    To have STJ further my understanding of the Normans is my Christmas gift! ❤

  • @auld_boy
    @auld_boy 11 месяцев назад +4

    I’m predominantly of Scottish and Scandinavian decent and have the J and J2A halpogroup. Its sad to see the amount of the pseudo scholarship going on with respect to this topic. I recently saw a similar paper which claimed to link some of these halpogroups to the 12 tribes of Israel. The actual evidence was basically none existent..they mainly used out of context passages of scripture to deduce a group of people were descended from their favourite biblical characters despite linguistics, archeology, anthropology and DNA evidence showing the contrary!

    • @Survivethejive
      @Survivethejive  11 месяцев назад +1

      Using scripture as historical source is a red flag

    • @matthewwood2638
      @matthewwood2638 11 месяцев назад

      See the book, "When Scotland was Jewish." Based on Y chromosome studies of 12 central Tennessee "Melungeon" families. Indicates a huge influx of Jews into remote Scotland to escape persecution in Catholic southern Europe during the late middle ages.

  • @MagnumOpusYT
    @MagnumOpusYT 11 месяцев назад +2

    For the Algo - did you know Bradford means broad crossing in respect to the Aire, britonic for strong river. A truly once great city, now, a cesspit.

  • @NeusaGomesMissesfirst
    @NeusaGomesMissesfirst 10 месяцев назад +4

    I am Haplogroup J. It's Persian Royalty. next to E1b and R1A. I have the base codes.

  • @ShootingUtah
    @ShootingUtah 11 месяцев назад +2

    Please look into the I2 haplogroup. I am either I1 or I2a according to an estimator thing I used online with my ancestry raw DNA file. I have no idea if it's actually correct but having an I haplogroup of some type makes perfect sense with the genealogy I have done. They are interesting haplogroups and I believe you're a part of I as well.

    • @jeremeybuckley
      @jeremeybuckley 11 месяцев назад +1

      WHG!! We built the megaliths.

    • @drengr811
      @drengr811 11 месяцев назад +1

      I1 and I2 both are Western Hunter Gatherer paternal lineages

    • @ccoodd26
      @ccoodd26 11 месяцев назад

      @@jeremeybuckley No one knows who built the megaliths

  • @somedandy7694
    @somedandy7694 11 месяцев назад +6

    Yes. But were the studies accurate enough to show that the women were better raiders than the men?

  • @CanadianFreedom1
    @CanadianFreedom1 11 месяцев назад +2

    Québec has the most descendants after Normandy.
    I am R-Z2103 and paternal line is Norman. Supported by papertrail.
    I've asked chat GPT how R-Z2103 could've ended up in the Norman population.
    Haplogroup R-Z2103 is a subclade of the R1b haplogroup, one of the most common haplogroups in Europe, particularly in Western Europe. The presence of R-Z2103 in Normandy likely results from a combination of historical migrations and genetic drift.
    1. **Indo-European Migrations**: The R1b haplogroup is closely associated with Indo-European migrations into Europe, particularly those of the Yamnaya culture from the Eurasian Steppes. The descendants of these populations played a significant role in the genetic landscape of Europe.
    2. **Viking and Norse Influence**: Normandy has a history of Viking and Norse invasions and settlements, particularly during the 9th and 10th centuries. These groups came from Scandinavia, where R1b and its subclades were present. The integration and intermarriage between the Norse settlers and the local Frankish population could have introduced R-Z2103 into the region.
    3. **Later Historical Migrations**: Throughout history, there have been various migrations and movements of people within Europe due to wars, trade, and other social changes. Any of these could have contributed to the dispersal of different haplogroups, including R-Z2103.
    4. **Genetic Drift**: Over generations, certain haplogroups can become more common in a particular area due to random genetic drift. This process can lead to a higher frequency of specific haplogroups in some regions compared to others.
    The genetic landscape of Europe is complex and has been shaped by multiple waves of migrations, invasions, and social changes over thousands of years. Therefore, the presence of R-Z2103 in Normandy is likely a result of these historical and genetic processes.

    • @CanadianFreedom1
      @CanadianFreedom1 11 месяцев назад +2

      Then I asked what genetic studies supported the presence of R-Z2103 in Scandinavia. Here is a part of the anwser:
      Yamnaya Intrusion in Denmark: A study on skeletons from the Neolithic Single Grave Culture (SGC) in Denmark found that the individuals did not display the typical early/middle Neolithic ancestry observed among other groups like LBK, TRB, and GAC. Instead, they genetically resembled Northern and Eastern European individuals post-dating the Yamnaya migrations, like those related to the Corded Ware Culture (CWC), Battle Axe Culture, and Unetice.

  • @Silikone
    @Silikone 11 месяцев назад +4

    Even by Middle Eastern standards, J2 is infamously not prominent in Semites compared to its J1 sibling. It's pretty much unmistakably a Caucasian haplogroup.

    • @theCosmicQueen
      @theCosmicQueen 4 месяца назад

      Shem came from the Caucasus, where Noah's ark settled. Jews have different dna from other tribes, and other semites as well.

  • @nicolaspicard1501
    @nicolaspicard1501 11 месяцев назад +1

    Other than that, Caen and Leicester's universities conducted a study called " The Viking DNA project " and, interesting fact, among the 58 first persons tested in Cotentin ( Cherbourg to Mt St Michel ), almost everyone had a great proportion of Georgian / Caucasus genes, which were likely to be carried in high percentage by Norsemen

  • @LotanLevant
    @LotanLevant 11 месяцев назад +7

    Thanks again Tom for spreading truth in opposition to the unaware fascists

  • @yeukman94
    @yeukman94 11 месяцев назад +2

    I’m from northern France and I’m also I1. I would like to know if my paternal lineage is from the Franks, the Anglo-saxons or the Vikings but I can’t cause dna testing has been banned in France. Shitty laws trying to prevent the people from learning more on their ancestry.

  • @MW-W88
    @MW-W88 11 месяцев назад +6

    Why is it that people always try to link ancient Europeans to Semitic people?

    • @joaogrande8846
      @joaogrande8846 11 месяцев назад +2

      Ancient semites were different from modern... get that through your head.

    • @TheBlahman3
      @TheBlahman3 11 месяцев назад +5

      @@joaogrande8846 Yet everything about their behavior was the same back then as it is today if you read your middle eastern fairy tale book...interesting

    • @MW-W88
      @MW-W88 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@joaogrande8846 I know. I’m asking why do people try to link the two?

    • @المنتزهاتي11
      @المنتزهاتي11 11 месяцев назад

      ​@@joaogrande8846no

    • @joaogrande8846
      @joaogrande8846 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@MW-W88 You're the one saying they are "trying"... maybe they really are and it's just being unveiled. Of course some may have agendas.

  • @halk3
    @halk3 11 месяцев назад +1

    My ancestry is all British/Irish and Scandinavian, but my Y haplogroup is J2. I forget the specifics, but I remember that, based on the distribution of names/backgrounds of people with similar haplotypes, it is plausible that my Y DNA comes from Normans.

  • @Joe-os3vp
    @Joe-os3vp 11 месяцев назад +3

    3:38 "Yeah alright Stan, don't labour the point."
    (Life of Brian aficionados will get it)

  • @robofclanlennox
    @robofclanlennox 11 месяцев назад

    Thank you, Thomas. Your work is invaluable. Keep going, my friend.

  • @hodgeyhodge8414
    @hodgeyhodge8414 11 месяцев назад +6

    Every haplogroup is associated with a last common ancestor. Who was Mr R1b? Where did he live? When? Was he an exceptional guy, or was it just luck?

    • @alanfroegel
      @alanfroegel 11 месяцев назад +3

      R1b is one of the most successful family trees. New research shows K2b gave K2b2, then P1 which is associated with Ancient North Eurasians. P1 split into Q (American Indians) and R about 30 k years ago, probably around the Lake Baikal area, Russia. R gives R1a and R1b. Eventually R1b males replaced many other haplogroups in ancient Europe (Aurignacians and Gravettians were a different haplotype). google these terms and you'll find lots of info.

  • @alessiorenzoni5586
    @alessiorenzoni5586 11 месяцев назад +2

    🇮🇹What if the events narrated in the Bible did not take place where we believe, but were set in the Baltic? A study from Genesis to "Ezekiel's journey" The previous book "The Baltic Gods of the Bible" revealed the numerous and unknown homonyms between biblical and Baltic geography, which require explanation: what are the original places of Old Testament geography? What are the reproductions instead? Through the linguistic analysis of the names of places, people or terms with debated etymology, this new work aims to shed light on the mysteries that surround the Northern European lands also thanks to those archaeological sites which, according to the scholars themselves, they are potentially capable of revolutionizing what was hitherto believed to be known about the Nordic Bronze Age in relation to the history of the Mediterranean.

  • @Slangnegativ
    @Slangnegativ 11 месяцев назад +4

    Fantastic french reading.

  • @Drvol1
    @Drvol1 11 месяцев назад +2

    Excellent stuff Tom. Were you aware that the Norman Kingdom in Southern Italy lasted a lot longer than the one in England? Do you think it would be possible to make a video on Southern Italian origins? Seems to be a contentious issue.

    • @Lowest_Levels
      @Lowest_Levels 10 месяцев назад

      Southern Italian populations have an interesting dichotomy between more swarthy Med types on one end of the spectrum with blonde hair types on the other, with everything in between. Wonder if this is the result of Norman rule and what drew in peoples from other parts of Europe through the trades and so forth as thriving periods of rule can do or something similar to what can be seen in Turkey today with outcomes though less intense involving a similar spectrum of physical characteristics, in the case of Turkey likely a hold over from the Byzantine era, slaves brought in from Eastern Europe and old Greek populations.

    • @Drvol1
      @Drvol1 10 месяцев назад

      @@Lowest_Levels In my experience there are two pockets of blondism in Southern Italy. One is around Naples and the other is around Bari. Sicily probably has more blondes than Calabria. Some people think it may be a result of Swabian immigration in the Middle Ages. Nevertheless as you say there is some very diverse phenotypes. Compare say Ciro Immobile to Lorenzo Insigne who are both from the same area.

    • @petera618
      @petera618 10 месяцев назад +2

      Very interesting. Both sides of my family are from the same town on the northern coast of Sicily near Palermo. Lighter complexions are more common than people think among Sicilians. I myself was born with blond curly hair and hazel eyes. People assume it's from the Norman conquest. My DNA shows no Norman ancestry, it's mainly southern Italian, some northern Italian, and smaller amounts of Cypriot, Greek, Albanian, Maltese, and French, the lower part of France, not Normandy.

    • @theCosmicQueen
      @theCosmicQueen 4 месяца назад

      are you joking? England/ Britain is ruled by a norman descended family in the monarchy and also many nobles in the House of Lords. THAT is what caused the class divide up to the present day. Commoner vs Noble.

    • @theCosmicQueen
      @theCosmicQueen 4 месяца назад +1

      @@petera618 Many are not aware of the diversity of coloration among mediterranean people and also mideastern. they think all of them have dark hair , eyes and skin. But they have always had diverse colors.

  • @voltairedentotalenkrieg5147
    @voltairedentotalenkrieg5147 11 месяцев назад +15

    The Three Lions on England's football jersey are all named after French stuff. Rollo, Maine and Aquitaine.
    Rollo the first ruler of Normandy is the great-great-great-grandfather of William the Conqueror( the progenitor of House of Normandy in England).
    Charlemagne (King of the Franks) is the 9th Great-grandfather to William the Conqueror.
    William had good breeding in him. But he had a lot to live up to.

    • @roberfred760
      @roberfred760 11 месяцев назад

      Aquitaine do not have lion as coat of arms in my knowledge

    • @jandavidson7093
      @jandavidson7093 11 месяцев назад +2

      Henry I, William I's son, married Good Queen Maud. Maud's father was Malcolm III (Canmore) who was descended from Kenneth MacAlpin, first King of Scotland. Maud's mother was Margaret of Wessex and she was descended from Alfred the Great. Henry I and Maud's daughter, Empress Matilda, was the mother of Henry II. So we've got William the Conqueror, Malcolm Canmore, Kenneth MacAlpin, Rollo, Alfred the Great and Charlemagne as the ancestors of Henry II; not a bad lineage, if you could get it.

  • @blackstonewielder19
    @blackstonewielder19 11 месяцев назад +2

    The most closely related subclades to Montgomery J2 have been found in Northern Ireland and Finland, and the most closely related subclades of those are found in both Southern Europe and Arabia, so I'd say it's a 50/50 for their lineage being Semitic. Also, members of Clan Graham (a Scottish clan of Norman origin) carry a subclade of J1 that looks like it came straight to the British Isles from Arabia. To me, the most likely explanation of how both these lineages got there is as slaves brought by vikings (possibly even bought in Baghdad).

    • @admontblanc
      @admontblanc 11 месяцев назад +2

      Could also be from liberated slaves, a fairly unknown phenomenon that it's often glossed over. During the Reconquista a lot of slaves were liberated whenever Christians conquered land from the Muslims, since the Reconquista is a period of about 7 centuries it's not a stretch that some liberated slaves might've been of mixed blood since there were slaves born as slaves. Another possible explanation is if those J haplogroups come from pre-historic populations instead, which could account for very disparate and geographically distant peoples sharing some % of it. Until there's full disclosure and complete freedom to study and publish findings about DNA there's no way to tell the full truth, especially not using rude, linear methods of extrapolation.

  • @Madonnalitta1
    @Madonnalitta1 11 месяцев назад +17

    Since I was a little girl, I've considered myself to be of Viking stock (what little girl doesn't want to be a Berserker or a Ulfhednar?)
    I don't know, but my red hair, pale skin, and green eyes suggest to me that it's possible.
    If they come for my perceived ancestry, I'm going full Jomviking!
    Great video, as always.

    • @hughseay4275
      @hughseay4275 11 месяцев назад +6

      Ireland has the most red haired people in the world. Then Scottish people are second.

    • @Anglisc1682
      @Anglisc1682 11 месяцев назад +1

      Your red hair, fair skin and green eyes don't really suggest much at all

    • @jw841
      @jw841 11 месяцев назад

      ​@@emissary_of_aldebaranI have family in the east coast of England and most people there have Scandinavian ancestry. Thanks to the vikings. And yes red hair is pretty common there too.

    • @samuraijosh1595
      @samuraijosh1595 11 месяцев назад

      My guess would be your ancestors are African male and White female.

  • @spyrofrost9158
    @spyrofrost9158 11 месяцев назад +2

    Why is it all these people have to insist that everyone in Europe originated from outside of it? You don't see them doing that for anywhere else in the world.

  • @Tamir-Barkahan
    @Tamir-Barkahan 9 месяцев назад +3

    Semite The Jive ✊

  • @octobermoon9
    @octobermoon9 9 месяцев назад

    This is extremely frustrating. Thank you for creating this video.