"Leave one wolf alive and the sheep are never safe" and "Tell them North remembers. Tell them winter came for house frey" got to be two of the most badass lines of the whole show
Love the reactions - very entertaining to see the two guys’ faces when they know what’s coming before the others! The only request is to maybe focus when there is dialogue. The viewers want to know what’s being said too!! Stop talking! 😂😂
@@Hyperi0nn no but I think it's never bad to call people out for ruining communities, doing shit like paying for paywalled content to then be able to directly spoil to the creators. Worth typing more than 2 words for
Robb made two MAJOR mistakes -- Breaking the vow to marry a Frey girl was one. The other was killing Rickard Karstark. That mistake cost him most of his army, which sent Robb to treat with Frey... and lead to the deaths of Robb, his wife, his mother, his wolf, and all of his men.
@@nyla_n123 True... and some of the Karstark men were hanged as punishment. But Robb was strongly advised by his wife, mother and uncle that he should keep Karstark alive as a hostage in order to preserve the army. And Robb choose not to listen.
@@NovaLena22 the guy on the couch jumping to Robb’s defense was crazy. Cause like Sansa said Ned and Robb both made STUPID mistakes that could’ve easily been avoided. The starks are too honorable for their own good, that’s why she was begging Jon to actually listen to her advice and come to her
I’m laughing seeing them looking at the map and figuring out the proximity of different locations 🤣 Looking forward to when they realize none of that will matter.
Who wants more travel scenes & filler? Why are so many desperate for that? The story arcs are wrapping up. The end is here. And it's a main problem for Martin trying to finish the books because he announced the number of books in the series he planned & he has drawn them out so much he is struggling to for everything in. If he does release the next book he may have to add at least one more to not compromise his pacing.
Cersei's husband killed Danys brother and Jamie killed her dad. I dont think theyre getting anywhere pursuing an alliance with her and Tyrion killed Tywin and Cersei thinks he killed Joffrey so shes never going to accept a queen with Tyrion as her hand
@studiogek Carter the actor of Robb Stark didn’t say he was happy with killing his character off he himself said at Comicon 2013 after his last day of shooting on the show on his way back home on the flight to scotland he literally cried in the flight he said himself that it was a bitter moment that his character died but he has known all along before signing for the show before season 1 that his character gonna die soon
It's a cool scene but I find it odd that people don't call Arya a psycho (like they do with other characters) for killing a bunching of people regardless if they were involved or not. It's made clear in the books not every Frey was involved. Some were against it so were actively kept away and hidden in the dark about and during the Red Wedding.
And no moral quandary or ethical introspection after she murders an entire family, some of whom certainly did not have a hand in the red wedding. Just presented as a straight up good thing, and not at all critiqued that she’s a person completely driven by revenge. That’s the level to which the writing has fallen. You’d never catch that in the books, I.e., a property that is consistent with its own themes.
That's funny. For me it was one of her worst moments in the show and my least favorite. It was just to hype her up and it made her look insane. Arya stopped being a real character in season 6.
In the books Sam discovered that it was the Maesters (who work for the Hightowers) that killed the dragons by stunting their growth with poison at a hatchling age. He also learned they also kill or destroy anything to do with magic (science vs magic type of ideology). But the truth is that they have hid that ancient magic knowledge in the Hightower, where the Hightowers secretly study it. Sam also discovered that lord Leyton Hightower has locked himself at the top of the tower, for a decade, cooking something big, so big that there's a faceless assassin and a sand snake trying to infiltrate it. Euron Greyjoy is also about to attack it and do a massive blood sacrifice to draw a giant kraken to the surface, warg it and unleash it on the Hightowers but Leyton had prepared a secret weapon. The theory is that Lord Leyton Hightower is the Lord of Light himself, Sam knows that he posses an ancient Valyrian artifact that allows him to give fire visions and dreams, he is also practiced in necromancy - making fire priests believe that their God is real, talking to them through fire and resurrecting them- but it's Lord Leyton master planning something. So it will be basically a massive high magic battle between the Drowned God and the Lord of Light and it will usher the Long Night.
@@galesal1109 The last part about the Lord of Light is the theory, the rest is confirmed though- the part about the dragons, and Leyton locking himself cooking something big and possessing glass candles which can be used to give fire visions are confirmed. I think it's plausible because why else George did hint that Leyton Hightower can do that? As well as a lot of other hints? It could be that he is trying to reverse what his ancestors started, maybe to save humanity from the Long Night, or maybe he has an insidious agenda..
@@orphanedhanyou A common theory is that Euron will win, climb the top of the Hightower and blow the horn of winter three times to collapse the wall. I mean, that's the theory I subscribe too. It's def end game still.
24:44 that room is rhaenyras bed room in house of the dragon. You can see it when she’s giving birth in episode 10 season 1. The only thing is that the table is in there when in house of the dragon they have the table out in the mail hall. chillsssss
In the books, Euron is crazy. He's traveled the world "collecting" magic and knowledge. He's kinda scary AF. Definitely one of the underdeveloped storylines that suffered in the show.
The cameo by Ed Sheeran was done as a surprise for Maisie Williams. She was a big fan of his music, and apparently they had been trying to get him on the show for a while. While I do think that Sansa can offer great insights in certain areas (she probably knows/understands Cersei better then anyone), she has these temper tantrums when no one listens to her, and its just like nails on a chalkboard for me.
After watching HoTD the last scene of Daenerys hits completely different. That's where Rhaenyra and Daemon where at.. For me, this is the end scene of the Show.
"zero buildup to that moment" Yeah not like Arya witnessed the red wedding, watched the Freys sew Robb's dire wolf's head to his body, recited her list of names 1000000 times for the last 4 seasons
He meant that the whole thing was basically used as a shock without much logic. Back in the earlier seasons, they would have had Arya first try to enter the twins. Then maybe they would have had people trying to catch her. Then maybe you would have had people at the twins dying one by one. Then maybe she could have found her uncle Edmure in a cell somewhere where she could have tried to free him, etc....some stuff would have had to happen before poising the wine and so forth. But in these seasons, the showrunners were trying to rush everything and wanted to finish the show so they did shock stuff like this like it's a super-hero movie.
@@johnnyskinwalker4095Had they done that you would complain that the scene where Arya killed house Frey went on for too long. Kinda like how people complained when the show showed her training to become an assassin (so she wouldnt have to do all those things you listed).
I am once again asking the boys to literally just google up what Euron is like in the books. There's no spoilers anymore since the show is wayyyyy beyond the events of the book, but man, the character assassination of Euron needs to be studied forever.
Peoples negativity about seaaon 8 is only partly justified . I get it, I was there since the beginning but honestly Id only really change the last few episodes. After all this time Im just appreciating the whole series and most of all.. the crew and cast did an amazing job.
This is the season where cutting out half the book characters comes to become really obvious.. Danny is now Faegon and herself.. Cersi also becomes Faegon in Kingslanding.. Stannis and John have become one character and the Ironborn are just background. When the major issues start at season 5, I can't even really fault season 7 anymore.. You can only do so much with what you've been given in this version of the story lol
@@FaroTV_ Oh yeah, but that was going down hill even when they had the books to follow. But it does get worse as times goes on.. But now we see so many series get 2 years for a season.. With a production this big and no writing to fall back on, I can kind of see how the writing got worse.. Like there's adapting, then basically writing fan fic on someone elses work. But eh GRRM still hasn't released anything in an extremely long time, he's also at fault.
everything began in season 5 and just begin the downward spiral. Sansa being married off to Ramsey (which led to her reuniting with Jon, which is great but the way they write Sansa after season 5 is very questionable at points), the many characters that’s erased from the series, and yeah of course rushing the entire story after season 6 especially.
You’re right, you can see how much of the characters have inherited Faegon’s plot arc-I’d say Daenerys, Jon, and Cersei have gained Faegon’s movements in the books. Daenerys rivalry for the throne is suppose to be with Faegon, Cersei is meant to be deposed & flee to Casterly Rock after Faegon takes KL, and Jon has taken Faegon’s tension meant with Daenerys. The exclusion of Young Griff has left a vaccum in the story that the show runners tried to patch over with different characters.
18:00 "What the heck!" Game of Thrones has always been a friend to musicians! Bronn was in a popular band (Robson & Flynn), Hodor's a successful DJ, Osha the wildling is the singer of Molotov Jukebox, Grey Worm writes and sings as "Raleigh Ritchie", Episode 5x8 "Hardhome" featured the metal band "Mastodon" as wildlings, Dario 2.0 played by Michiel Huisman (sorry Ed Skrein!) is the singer in the Dutch pop band _Fontane,_ Lannister executioner Illyn Payne was played by Wilko Johnson of Dr. Feelgood, and even ol Ramsay Bolton released an album _Dinard_ *The list goes on!* Game of Thrones has always shown love for musicians. There's a ton more fun music/artist/actor trivia related to the show, too. I'd be here awhile if I tried to list it all.
The people who hate on the show so much are still freaking here keeping a reaction on radar after 5 years of it ending.😂 get over yourselves and let people enjoy the show. Imagine letting TV get you all worked up after all this time…comment section reeks of miserable people.
Walder Frey didn’t “pull off” the Red Wedding by himself. He had the backing of Tywin Lannister (that was important guys) and help from Roose Bolton and his army.
To play the devils advocate The last 2 seasons of game of thrones were very difficult to film. Bad weather conditions forced delays on site. Then most of the actor salaries ballooned to extremes. I think if you’re the type of person that can appreciate mass effect 3 without letting the ending get to you…this isn’t the worst (remember lost?)
So many of the actors were glad they wrapped up the show vs trying to keep it going after they all waited a decade for Martin to release the next book. It truly was exhausting to be on set in foreign countries, in the cold, fighting & doing big stunts year after year. You love your character but it also just want to be able to move on. And surprise he STILL hasnt released the next book and most likely its due to the fact (which he already admitted with the previous books) he has gotten so convoluted in the story (Meereenese Knot anyone?) to keep the style and pacing he will need longer and probably more books than he planned. He won't be able to wrap up everything in the amount of books planned. You guys talk about "how will the show so xyz in 2 seasons" but Martin has way more to cram in to two books!
Regarding the comments about the Quaith and her time with the Faceless Men, George meant there to be a 5 year time jump between her joining and leaving the Faceless Men so that her training could be assumed (same with Bran and the Three-eyed Crow). Also in the first book when Aria is training with Syrio Ferrell, he trains her to “see with her ears and nose” by blindfolding her. So while we don’t see what makes the difference between her suddenly being able to beat the quaith, it isn’t exactly spontaneous or unfounded.
"Leave one wolf alive and the sheep are never safe." Love that line. 7:16 "This Ed Sheeran?" 😂 Nice job Carter. Glad y'all liked this scene and the rest of the episode too. I hope you guys keep enjoying it, but if you don't, I hope it won't be due to the influence of all the negative comments crapping on the show. I know Carter had his issues with how Arya's revenge happened, but Westeros is her home, so that's what she meant. I get that he wanted build up specifically to her committing the acts, but it wasn't just random either. I think calling it a cheap surprise is a really weird take. Anyway, hopefully copyright won't keep being an issue with GoT, because waiting a whole week for this reaction sucked. It'd be nice if we could get back to three GoT uploads per week again until you guys finish it.
I disagree about the Arya/Frey storyline. Had they showed us, it would have spoiled Walder's surprise when he was killed & then her killing the rest of the Freys. We are seeing it from the Frey's POV. SURPRISE, you're 💀
@@johnnyskinwalker4095 definitely not how George would have written it, but still believe that when it comes to shock & awe scenes, less info is more. If we'd seen her preparing for the k!ll, it wouldn't have had the same surprise punch. This was similar to the surprise of the Red Wedding & for that reason, it worked.
@@MotherTrece It felt too much like fan service. It wasn't good writing and the logic behind it was shaky. For example It may have worked when Arya took the face of the dead girl to kill Miren Trant but her portraying Walder is not realistic, can you imagine the amount of magic it would have taken to get to that point of mimicking Walder? And as far as I know Arya doesn't know any magic. I think her killing his sons and cooking a pie was far fetched enough. I guess killing Walder can work. But they didn't need to have her do this and kill tthe whole house. That's like an extreme level of OP and it makes no sense. In later seasons they did too much like shocking scenes and writing with no build up cause they wanted to rush things and end the show. I'd would actually rather have had stories where Arya tries to enter the twins and has difficulties entering and then does. Then people trying to catch in the castle and she escapes. And then as weeks gone by, people at the twins start to die one by one. And people are getting paranoid, etc....Maybe have Arya discovering her uncle Edmure in a cell and she frees him, etc....Then at some point you have have her kill Walder. OK it would not be as shocking as what we got but there would some substance behind it.
Arya basically trained to be a secret assassin. A big build up where we see every part of her plan defeats the purpose of her being a secret assassin. You need to be blindsided by it to see all her training was put to good use.
Carter is spot on, here. Arya killing the Freys is essentially the split among fandom that started happening in later seasons. For some they just had a blast seeing something like this happen. But for others who are more about writing and lore, this was too over the top. It felt like fan service. And logic really went out the door. Arya killing Walder and her sons was something. But her killing the whole house and people not recognizing her was unreal. What did she learn at the House of Black and White anyway? To remove faces and fight as a blind person. She did use the face of a girl to kill Merin Trant but she was about her size. Her portraying a grown man like Walder Frey with his voice and size, it would take magic to do that and I don't think she went that far in her training with the Faceless Men. But yea the execution of it was out of nowhere and it's clear that it was also cause they rushed it. Like one dimension movie, she appears out of nowhere and kill first Walder then the whole place. But what they should have done is maybe have Arya try to enter the Twins. And having trouble doing so. Then after succeeding maybe having people trying to capture her and her escaping. Then you hear people start disappearing at the Twins and they wonder what is happening. You do a build leading to her killing Walder. But killing the whole House, I would not have done it. Maybe instead have her find her uncle Edmure in a cell and helping him and his wife escape? Anyway think some fans by then had stopped remembering what made them fall in love with Thrones in the first place: the writing and the complexcity of the characters. This turned the show into a super-hero movie, they just wanted the cheap thrills. Sure it's fun but it's not the same level of quality that it used to have. It was like let logic be damned and scenes happening not being earned.
Like with all the original reactors, dozens of them, the ones that reacted to the episodes as they first aired, they all had nothing negative to say about season 7 & at least half way into season 8. It's the Monday Morning QBs, mostly book readers, who didn't like the end of the show & threw a tantrum about it, saying that everything the screenwriters did on their own was a joke. Funny, because it was George's ending (He's rewriting the end, going on five years now, making the book fifteen years in the making.). Think about it, do you start complaining about your team, when you are up 2 touchdowns? No. Excuses being made that the show sped up, among a few other things. The hypocrisy, as we now know in HOTD, they skipped 10-15 years, several times, leaving the audience trying to figure out what they are seeing on the screen. Then in season 2 they stalled an entire season, because they wanted to stretch out HOTD to multiple more seasons, leaving the audience exactly where season 1 ended. Something that D&D didn't want to do with GOT, leaving GOT in a holding pattern, stretching out the last book George wrote to additional seasons until George was done with the last book. HOTD was all under George's supervision, where the lead actors, became third tier supporting actors, stuck in neutral for an entire season. What a horrible waste of talent, especially for the characters of Daemon, Raenyra, Otto & Criston. If D&D would of done HOTD season 2, there would have been a petition for HBO to fire them.
Season 8 is absoluetly terrible it made the whole show pointless and ruined every character. The plot points of the ending may be similar to George's vision except George can actually write and lead into it while D&D can't write at all and forced everything in to go to their star wars project that never happened. The reason people never complained much about s7 and even first 2 eps of season 8 was because it was still salvable enough that it could still turn out good. People had 6 seasons of investment and are not going to immeidetly hop on the hate wagon. Once you finish the show and realize the damage that happened all your suspension of criticism disappears and it makes every hole that much bigger and you realize everything in season 7 was the beginning of the end, setting up the greatest flop and worst ending in all of fiction. Its like D&D hated the show and its audience and intentionally made it bad because their is no way you get an ending this bad without it being intentional.
Agree. Book readers waited years for a show and show watchers waited years for more books for more content and Martin STILL hasnt delivered. This means everyone has too much time to steelman Dany and ignore all the signs & lore. The son of ice and fire will save the world from ice AND fire.
@@lukefox01 Did you dissect the first 5 seasons? There was plenty to dissect if you went about things the same way as the haters went on about season 8. Some real horrible writing if you actually thought about things, all under George;s supervision, just like he is in charge of HOTD. I won't spoil the biggest crock of crap that started it all ... since the boys haven't put up episode 3 of season 8 yet. But, did you like the Dancing Master who couldn't dance to save his life, let alone to bend down to pick up a sword, just one episode removed as to when Bronn danced around, tired his opponent & beat an armored knight, in almost the same exact scenario? Or how the Whitewalker on the horse at the end of season 2, suddenly wasn't part of the start of season 3 episode 1, when nothing the Night's Watch had could have defeated him? Sam was the first to kill a Whitewalker in thousands of years, episodes later with dragon glass, only after his sword shattered on him first. Why did the whitewalker cut out, if he alone could have killed all of the Night's Watch in minutes? Mance sent 400 Wildlings to scale a deserted part of the wall after he learned how poorly manned the defense was at Castle Black, what exactly happened to them? The leaderless 50 remaining Nightswatch repelled them? Jon & Stannis arrived a little while later, with no signs of another battle had taken place. The unsullied masters of the shield, short sword & the spear, why were they patrolling the city of Mereen with spears in tight quarter like alley ways, where they can't swing the spear without hitting an object? Why weren't they armed with short swords? Even ambushed, highly trained green berets should be able to defeat high class guys in masks armed with daggers. In season 1, Tyrion was traveling with Lannister guards after leaving Winterfell, what exactly happened to them, since they didn't put up a fight when Tyrion was taken hostage? Is Dani's clothes fire proof or not? Why didn't her clothes burn when the dragons burned the Warlock through her body? There are tons more, including the biggest one, which made all the high lords of Winterfell with 200 years of Westoros experience seem like complete imbeciles, as the poor writing had it.
I like how the hound talks simply cause it’s within his character. He’s so one worded cause he doesn’t like to open up about anything really. It’s hard for him, so when he does it’s always fun to see what he has to say.
Some of your viewers don’t know that the end of season 5 is the end of the books of Game of Thrones. Season 6-8 is the show runners’ scripts. Martin has stated that this vision for the ending is not the same. That is why readers of the books are waiting for Martin, who seems quite lazy about finishing it, to publish it.
I'm pretty sure most of the plot points of 6,7,8 are exactly what Martin has planned. He literally gave them an outline for the ending. The only difference in the books is that it should be far more lead into and developed rather than the forced writing D&D had.
season7 is not so bad on a first time watch! it still has some top tier moments! its when you get time to think about things you realise the execution was poor but i remember not one person complaining when waiting for season 8 to drop!
Ok I love you guys as a collective (McKay) you are my absolute favorite, but Carter and Cannon you both just talk, talk, and talk. I have said this before but when Jackson tries to talk or make a point Carter and Cannon both just talk all over him. Let Jackson speak more and let him complete his thought. At 8:22 Jackson speaks and McKay and Brig at least look at him and acknowledge he is speaking, but Carter and Cannon just look straight ahead and don't even turn to look at the guy. Come on guys you can do better. I know I can't be the only one that can see this. Justice for Jackson! Oh and one love to my guy McKay!
But Jackson always tries to make a ☝🏻🤓 point. And it’s kind of annoying If you really watch, it’s like kind spoiler-ish. I actually like that they don’t pay attention to him sorry 🎉
Honestly, It is rude the way they treat him but if you watch their other reactions....it's sad to say that Jackson is even more braindead than Carter who honestly, this channel would be better off without. He rambles, says little of consequence, talks over other people, redirects organic conversation, speaks almost completely from his emotions and just makes claims with 0 logic behind anything he says. He says soulfully impactful things (somewhat) here and there and he isn't a total waste but he makes this channel so much more worse than it could be (besides the channel likely being his creation). He's just NOT an intelligent human being and he speaks as if he is. Dude needs to let more aware humans like Cannon and Brig take over.
The conflict between Sansa and Jon feels so forced! Alys Karstark is unmarried, wed her to a Stark supporter. Umber is a boy and incapable of ruling effectively, give a Stark supporter command of the castle as the boys guardian until he comes of age. There's also the Dreadfort, now with the Boltons gone, that's another castle they can give away to their loyal men. Seriously, the writing....
It’s extremely forced. It’s clear after season 5. The writers use Sansa as a pawn in the story to constantly bait viewers into thinking she’s gonna “betray” her family. When that makes no sense. That’s why I can’t even take it serious or hold it against the character of Sansa. Realistically Sansa, especially book Sansa. Would NEVER approach the situation like that. She knows how important keeping her composure is, she would speak to Jon privately about her concerns if she has any. The writers also watered down Jon from the books, everyone knows that. The show always lacked in some regards cause we don’t have characters’ thoughts, so a character like Sansa being brought to life was always harder. Anyway, Sansa in the books is turning out to be one of the most intriguing and she’s even younger than the series. She knows how to use her strength of being a lady and making those around her absolutely love her. In the series, after Ramsey which doesn’t happen in the books, they start making her behave more like Margaery/Cersei.
@iris-xo Show Sansa and book Sansa are two completely different characters at this stage. I still love them both, just hate how the writers messed up her arc in the show!
@@cara2290 It's been a while since I read the books but isn't there a moment where she compares her solidity in her strength to different metals before settling on ivory? It's a great moment because it shows her growth and femininity which the writers just...seem to hate. It was SANSA in the books that organized her own escape in King's Landing. She listened and LEARNED you just didn't get that sense of smarts in show sansa. she was nothing but "a little bird". And attributing her growth to what she went through? big gross.
@@cara2290The books only go until the end of Season 5. It looks like you never read the books. Everything in Season 6-8 is the show runners’ scripts. Has nothing to do with the books. That’s why everyone is waiting for Martin’s final book so they can see what happens after the last book. He has said that his vision and the show runners’ is different and the ending will not be the same.
The resolution for the Freys is similar to Ramsay, it would have been appropriate and satisfying for these horrible people to contribute to their own destruction but when they get killed it's like an act of God and not a consequence following from their actions.
24:28 did you guys realize the lyrics of GoT theme are in Valyrian and all the lyrics are just talk about Valyria, Daenerys Targaryen and her dragons. Ramin Djawadi loves Dany and Targaryen so much, all the music he made for this House is freaking amazing, not to mention the music he made in Hotd.
Where did you find that? That’s so interesting. As far as I’ve read, RD said it was Valyrian-influenced. It’s just a choir singing Valyrian influenced words to match the music. The lyrics don’t actually say anything coherent though, disappointingly :/ Would be happy to be wrong though haha
I am surprised by your reaction to killing the Freys. I thought they did it perfectly. That is the style of those assassins. Under the radar and unseen.
I wouldn’t compare Robert to Aegon. Robert was a lazy fat old drunk. A great soldier but a terrible king. Jon Arryn did the true ruling. Not to mention Robert won because of the support of the Starks, Arryns and Tullys. Aegon won from his own armies and dragons. It was later the other houses supported him after bending the knee to him. Lastly, Robert had temper problems. He couldn’t see that Lyanna never loved him. Too deluded to see it. He also justified the killing of children too.
Actors were exhausted because of the hours they had for filming, filming many scenes out in the freezing cold, and just practicing sword fights, getting in make-up, and rehearsing their scenes. It can be very exhausting, especially for Jon and a couple others. I read an article on Kit (Jon) explaining all this and how he felt.
37:00 big spectacles and major events coming out of no where with no basis nothing to build them up nor anything to explain them nor the aftermath...welcome to seasons 7 and 8
One of the main reasons the hate for the ending is so intense is because people had to wait two years for the final season. The flaws are still apparent, but it’s not as bad when you can watch episodes without a long wait in between.
I just binged the whole show 2 weeks ago and no its even more terrible than people have been telling me for the past 5 years. I lost the will to even continue after a few eps into season 7 and had to force myself to watch the rest. Truely the worst ending in all of fiction.
The writers rushed the ending of the show because they were supposed to do a Star Wars trilogy. But they bombed GoT last seasons so hard, the project was cancelled.
Maisie was a huge Ed Shereen fan. So D&D wrote this scene to surprise her. Ed was a GoT mega-fan. He and Kit lived in the same neighborhood in London and hung out from time to time. (The story how they met is pretty funny.) So getting him to do it was pretty easy.
I know they liked this episode, but rewatching this the cracks in the show are really apparent now. The dialogue just isn't really on par with where it was before, Baelish (as they rightly said) is a meme character now, that whole thing at the citadel with the maester crapping his guts out and Euron with his magical fleet of 1000 ships coming out of fin air. Now, don't get me wrong, there are still some cool moments here and there (and still to come this season) but it definitely isn't on the same level as previous seasons.
Its almost like things like building ships happens off screen. Littlefinger got where he was due to manipulating three Tully women. Eventually even the best get tricked & out maneuvered and it was the Tully who was also a Stark that does it.
Seaosn 6 and 7 are my personal favorite seasons. People finally meet in this season that you wouldn't have expected. Plus, it sets up Season 8 beautifully. Even though season 8 turned out rough on the 2nd half, lol
I loved the show so much that I went & averaged out the votes on IMDB per episode per season, of thousands of people, about a year after the show ended. Season 6 had the highest mathematical avg. vote cast per episode, just necking out season 4. Just by the sheer amount of 10's that episodes 9 & 10 got. Season 6 had 3 of the top 6 mathematical avg. votes cast among all GOT episodes. Season 7's avg vote at the time, was 4th best, making it in the top 50% of seasons.
Season 6 is onpar with season 4 if not slightly better. Season 7 is a big drop off and where the holes really start showing and season 8 oh God just absolutely attrocious. Might be the one piece of media I've seen I can truly say is a 1/10.
Carter thinking there was no build up to Frey’s death is looking promising for the rest of season 7 and 8. The "lack of build up" is one of the main themes they tried to explore in the show moving forward😂
Even the smartest person can be out played & Littlefinger thought he could still manipulate Sansa. That was his downfall. He manipulated 3 Tully women & it was the final one that was also a true Stark that realized it & brought him down.
@@orphanedhanyou person who built himself to that level from nothing by understanding what everyone wants would've never made the mistake of not seeing what sansa was at that point... It's just bad writing... I was rooting for him to win the got and I saw him killed in the worst way possible... I could've come up with better writing d&d should never cook again...
No need for a build up when it’s supposed to be a surprise for the viewers. I don’t think it was a cheap surprise either. The building up was since season 3.
Nah the suprise Frey kill was good because it mirrored the surprise of the red wedding. Better than spending half a season there watching Arya work her way up the corporate wench ladder to be able to pull off her scheme.
@@fosterhb3774 he says some spoilery things even tho he doesn’t really notice it. But that’s only because he’s watched the show, as many of us would. But it’s just easily apparent with him than the other guy that’s also watched it
By Sansa's reasoning, the Lannisters were justified to take Winterfell from the Starks. Jon takes the position that the family and it's history can't be erased over politics.
17:58 THIS is the moment that ended GoT as we know it.😂 Like fr tho, from this moment onwards everything felt more meta that it's kinda less epic. Like you expect things to happen and D&D knows you expect it, & they ended up giving it to you in the most underwhelming way.
This is when the whole "subverting expections" non-sense was at its peak. Forget long established writing and lore lets just do anything to surprise people
Carter, you'll find a home among the GOT/ASOIAF fandom, you get it man. So much wasted potential in the show, and we've been talking about for years now. Hoping GRRM will do all these storylines right with the books 🤞
David Bradley f*cking killed it, the dude is acting like Arya who is acting like Walder and he nailed it perfectly. After this point, I don't mean to be a Debby Downer, but the show goes down hill plot wise after this. I mean it kinda started with Sansa lying about having an army for the Battle of the Bastards, useless drama formulated by armatures. However, I believe that the actors knew this, and they stepped up to their roles the best they can. In interviews you can see the actual pain on their faces, you can almost hear it in the show. There is just 1 more grand performance, with utterly perfect acting and I can't wait for it. After that though, prolly won't be watching the trash fire that is season 8
"Leave one wolf alive and the sheep are never safe" and "Tell them North remembers. Tell them winter came for house frey" got to be two of the most badass lines of the whole show
It is until u realize that no one even finds out who did it not even the lannisters and it’s never even mentioned in the meetings they have up north 😢
@@user-no8xd6gj6y IKR, D&D being as relevant as they can be
I still like the entire exchange of Young Ned and Sir Arthur Dayne.
@@user-no8xd6gj6y But it is mentioned by the Lannisters and Arya wants revenge not credit lol
the best opening of the whole series imo.
The whole scene with Daenerys going to Dragonstone makes me emotional to this day…. the feels
Same!
Especially after watching HOTD. It hits so much harder now!
Unfortunetly it never went anywhere as far as Im concerned that's where the story stops
and it hits different after House of the Dragon too.
Dany arriving at Dragonstone finally was a goosebumps moment.
Gosh this comment section. Let them decide own their own if they like this season and the next or not.
Their Patreon is even worse, members pay to complain, troll and trash talk/spoil the series in the comments. People LOVE to hate.
@@wavewithus4081 First time?
Love the reactions - very entertaining to see the two guys’ faces when they know what’s coming before the others!
The only request is to maybe focus when there is dialogue. The viewers want to know what’s being said too!! Stop talking! 😂😂
@@Hyperi0nn no but I think it's never bad to call people out for ruining communities, doing shit like paying for paywalled content to then be able to directly spoil to the creators. Worth typing more than 2 words for
@@wavewithus4081exactly what I was saying. 😭😭 Their reactions are not genuine anymore because of that
"She's not the killer type"
People who know: *nervous giggle*
Seems like the editor knew too lol
Arya didn't say she was going to Winterfell. She said she was going "home". Westeros is home. Arya thinks the Boltons still hold Winterfell
What I was thinking the whole time. She never said she was going specifically to winterfell
Exactly, she's going about crossing names off her list, she even said to the Lannister army "I'm going to kill the queen"
Dragonstone is in Spain, not in Ireland! Its in San Juan de Gaztelugatxe. Very beautiful place.
Robb made two MAJOR mistakes -- Breaking the vow to marry a Frey girl was one. The other was killing Rickard Karstark. That mistake cost him most of his army, which sent Robb to treat with Frey... and lead to the deaths of Robb, his wife, his mother, his wolf, and all of his men.
But the Karstarks committed a terrible crime, and someone had to be punished for it.
@@nyla_n123 True... and some of the Karstark men were hanged as punishment. But Robb was strongly advised by his wife, mother and uncle that he should keep Karstark alive as a hostage in order to preserve the army. And Robb choose not to listen.
@@NovaLena22 the guy on the couch jumping to Robb’s defense was crazy. Cause like Sansa said Ned and Robb both made STUPID mistakes that could’ve easily been avoided. The starks are too honorable for their own good, that’s why she was begging Jon to actually listen to her advice and come to her
@@iris-xo sansa is dumb as a donkey, she moves a finger and people say ''see how smart and cunning she is'', by doing nothing special
I believe we all had the same reaction on seeing Ed Sheeran XD.
I’m laughing seeing them looking at the map and figuring out the proximity of different locations 🤣 Looking forward to when they realize none of that will matter.
Who wants more travel scenes & filler? Why are so many desperate for that? The story arcs are wrapping up. The end is here. And it's a main problem for Martin trying to finish the books because he announced the number of books in the series he planned & he has drawn them out so much he is struggling to for everything in. If he does release the next book he may have to add at least one more to not compromise his pacing.
The Coldplay crew were also in the Red Wedding Episode, Aaron Roger’s was in an episode too (Greenbay packers Quarterback)
Cersei's husband killed Danys brother and Jamie killed her dad. I dont think theyre getting anywhere pursuing an alliance with her and Tyrion killed Tywin and Cersei thinks he killed Joffrey so shes never going to accept a queen with Tyrion as her hand
@studiogek Carter the actor of Robb Stark didn’t say he was happy with killing his character off he himself said at Comicon 2013 after his last day of shooting on the show on his way back home on the flight to scotland he literally cried in the flight he said himself that it was a bitter moment that his character died but he has known all along before signing for the show before season 1 that his character gonna die soon
Arya taking out the whole of House Fray will always be such a savage and second favorite moment of hers!
It's a cool scene but I find it odd that people don't call Arya a psycho (like they do with other characters) for killing a bunching of people regardless if they were involved or not. It's made clear in the books not every Frey was involved. Some were against it so were actively kept away and hidden in the dark about and during the Red Wedding.
And no moral quandary or ethical introspection after she murders an entire family, some of whom certainly did not have a hand in the red wedding. Just presented as a straight up good thing, and not at all critiqued that she’s a person completely driven by revenge.
That’s the level to which the writing has fallen. You’d never catch that in the books, I.e., a property that is consistent with its own themes.
No it was a cringe, Arya from seasons 7-8 is so bad just a robot “assassin” that got barely any training but is suddenly extremely strong lol
She killed the ones who were celebrating the killing of her family
That's funny. For me it was one of her worst moments in the show and my least favorite. It was just to hype her up and it made her look insane. Arya stopped being a real character in season 6.
In the books Sam discovered that it was the Maesters (who work for the Hightowers) that killed the dragons by stunting their growth with poison at a hatchling age. He also learned they also kill or destroy anything to do with magic (science vs magic type of ideology). But the truth is that they have hid that ancient magic knowledge in the Hightower, where the Hightowers secretly study it. Sam also discovered that lord Leyton Hightower has locked himself at the top of the tower, for a decade, cooking something big, so big that there's a faceless assassin and a sand snake trying to infiltrate it. Euron Greyjoy is also about to attack it and do a massive blood sacrifice to draw a giant kraken to the surface, warg it and unleash it on the Hightowers but Leyton had prepared a secret weapon. The theory is that Lord Leyton Hightower is the Lord of Light himself, Sam knows that he posses an ancient Valyrian artifact that allows him to give fire visions and dreams, he is also practiced in necromancy - making fire priests believe that their God is real, talking to them through fire and resurrecting them- but it's Lord Leyton master planning something.
So it will be basically a massive high magic battle between the Drowned God and the Lord of Light and it will usher the Long Night.
So they worked to kill off the dragon and take down the Targaryens yet they spread the prophecy of A Song and Ice and Fire?
Btw, what you are saying is just a theory. It’s not in the books. At least from all the research I’ve done. Can you provide the evidence?
@@galesal1109 The last part about the Lord of Light is the theory, the rest is confirmed though- the part about the dragons, and Leyton locking himself cooking something big and possessing glass candles which can be used to give fire visions are confirmed.
I think it's plausible because why else George did hint that Leyton Hightower can do that? As well as a lot of other hints? It could be that he is trying to reverse what his ancestors started, maybe to save humanity from the Long Night, or maybe he has an insidious agenda..
I don't think the magic issue is what brings the Long Night. That I think is still just linked with Winter coming.
@@orphanedhanyou A common theory is that Euron will win, climb the top of the Hightower and blow the horn of winter three times to collapse the wall. I mean, that's the theory I subscribe too. It's def end game still.
24:44 that room is rhaenyras bed room in house of the dragon. You can see it when she’s giving birth in episode 10 season 1. The only thing is that the table is in there when in house of the dragon they have the table out in the mail hall. chillsssss
I am pretty sure a member of Coldplay cameoed in the red wedding. I think they were the band playing music in the hall.
some parts of dragonstone castle is ACTUALLY REAL.
In the books, Euron is crazy. He's traveled the world "collecting" magic and knowledge. He's kinda scary AF. Definitely one of the underdeveloped storylines that suffered in the show.
Maisie Williams (Arya) is a fan of Ed Sheeran, im not sure if she ask for it but the producer decided to put her in a scene with her idol as a gift.
The cameo by Ed Sheeran was done as a surprise for Maisie Williams. She was a big fan of his music, and apparently they had been trying to get him on the show for a while.
While I do think that Sansa can offer great insights in certain areas (she probably knows/understands Cersei better then anyone), she has these temper tantrums when no one listens to her, and its just like nails on a chalkboard for me.
The writers just became Arya simps
After watching HoTD the last scene of Daenerys hits completely different. That's where Rhaenyra and Daemon where at.. For me, this is the end scene of the Show.
Because you are denial about Dany & all the lore and foreshadowing that easily lends itself to the end we got?
@@orphanedhanyou Forshadowing such as?
the 1000 ships being built between seasons could show that it's been months
thats the problem with the writting for season 7 and 8. theres no passage of time, it just happens.
And the fact the Varys was on the ship with Dani, he was in Westeros before and now back leaving Mereen with her
1000 ships built by hand in a couple months on a island that has virtually no trees, makes sense LMFAO
33:40 Carter’s statement “I wish they had taken their time for….” is the perpetual theme of seasons 7 & 8
Tired of complainers, yeah wait for the books 😂. George hit an Ice Wall of his own making and has yet to crack the code.
"zero buildup to that moment" Yeah not like Arya witnessed the red wedding, watched the Freys sew Robb's dire wolf's head to his body, recited her list of names 1000000 times for the last 4 seasons
He meant that the whole thing was basically used as a shock without much logic. Back in the earlier seasons, they would have had Arya first try to enter the twins. Then maybe they would have had people trying to catch her. Then maybe you would have had people at the twins dying one by one. Then maybe she could have found her uncle Edmure in a cell somewhere where she could have tried to free him, etc....some stuff would have had to happen before poising the wine and so forth. But in these seasons, the showrunners were trying to rush everything and wanted to finish the show so they did shock stuff like this like it's a super-hero movie.
@@johnnyskinwalker4095Had they done that you would complain that the scene where Arya killed house Frey went on for too long. Kinda like how people complained when the show showed her training to become an assassin (so she wouldnt have to do all those things you listed).
she just show up and it is done, there is no build up of her going there and planning, just her doing
Ed Sheeran is the Lord of Light
I am once again asking the boys to literally just google up what Euron is like in the books. There's no spoilers anymore since the show is wayyyyy beyond the events of the book, but man, the character assassination of Euron needs to be studied forever.
Peoples negativity about seaaon 8 is only partly justified . I get it, I was there since the beginning but honestly Id only really change the last few episodes. After all this time Im just appreciating the whole series and most of all.. the crew and cast did an amazing job.
This is the season where cutting out half the book characters comes to become really obvious.. Danny is now Faegon and herself.. Cersi also becomes Faegon in Kingslanding.. Stannis and John have become one character and the Ironborn are just background. When the major issues start at season 5, I can't even really fault season 7 anymore.. You can only do so much with what you've been given in this version of the story lol
To me the problem isnt even this. Its the dialogue. sometimes just poor, sometimes feel like its out of a different universe. LIke marvel or so
@@FaroTV_ Oh yeah, but that was going down hill even when they had the books to follow. But it does get worse as times goes on.. But now we see so many series get 2 years for a season.. With a production this big and no writing to fall back on, I can kind of see how the writing got worse.. Like there's adapting, then basically writing fan fic on someone elses work. But eh GRRM still hasn't released anything in an extremely long time, he's also at fault.
everything began in season 5 and just begin the downward spiral. Sansa being married off to Ramsey (which led to her reuniting with Jon, which is great but the way they write Sansa after season 5 is very questionable at points), the many characters that’s erased from the series, and yeah of course rushing the entire story after season 6 especially.
You’re right, you can see how much of the characters have inherited Faegon’s plot arc-I’d say Daenerys, Jon, and Cersei have gained Faegon’s movements in the books. Daenerys rivalry for the throne is suppose to be with Faegon, Cersei is meant to be deposed & flee to Casterly Rock after Faegon takes KL, and Jon has taken Faegon’s tension meant with Daenerys. The exclusion of Young Griff has left a vaccum in the story that the show runners tried to patch over with different characters.
Honestly, they just wanted to do the red wedding, then they didn’t care what happened to the rest of the show.
Good moments in the season, but mainly going downhill starting here 😂 have fun guys!
18:00 "What the heck!" Game of Thrones has always been a friend to musicians! Bronn was in a popular band (Robson & Flynn), Hodor's a successful DJ, Osha the wildling is the singer of Molotov Jukebox, Grey Worm writes and sings as "Raleigh Ritchie", Episode 5x8 "Hardhome" featured the metal band "Mastodon" as wildlings, Dario 2.0 played by Michiel Huisman (sorry Ed Skrein!) is the singer in the Dutch pop band _Fontane,_ Lannister executioner Illyn Payne was played by Wilko Johnson of Dr. Feelgood, and even ol Ramsay Bolton released an album _Dinard_
*The list goes on!* Game of Thrones has always shown love for musicians. There's a ton more fun music/artist/actor trivia related to the show, too. I'd be here awhile if I tried to list it all.
The people who hate on the show so much are still freaking here keeping a reaction on radar after 5 years of it ending.😂 get over yourselves and let people enjoy the show. Imagine letting TV get you all worked up after all this time…comment section reeks of miserable people.
I'm really not sure I can keep watching this, I think I can power through season 7, but season 8 is just really painful.
ill keep watching for their reactions duh 😂
Season 7 is honestly just as bad 😭
Brutally painful. It's going to bring up memories that iv buried deeeep inside
It really isn't "painful" bit over dramatic
@@Nexrasanowhere near as bad don’t be edgy lol
Sees Ed Sheeran: "Carter read the manga" got me some good laughs 🤣
Agreed about the Freys. Carter is as good at critical analysis as Brigg is at predictions
“of course dany gets the theme main frickin theme of the show” 😭😭😭😭
Starks forever
Carter, the term you're looking for is "Cold opening"
Walder Frey didn’t “pull off” the Red Wedding by himself. He had the backing of Tywin Lannister (that was important guys) and help from Roose Bolton and his army.
To play the devils advocate
The last 2 seasons of game of thrones were very difficult to film. Bad weather conditions forced delays on site. Then most of the actor salaries ballooned to extremes. I think if you’re the type of person that can appreciate mass effect 3 without letting the ending get to you…this isn’t the worst (remember lost?)
So many of the actors were glad they wrapped up the show vs trying to keep it going after they all waited a decade for Martin to release the next book. It truly was exhausting to be on set in foreign countries, in the cold, fighting & doing big stunts year after year. You love your character but it also just want to be able to move on. And surprise he STILL hasnt released the next book and most likely its due to the fact (which he already admitted with the previous books) he has gotten so convoluted in the story (Meereenese Knot anyone?) to keep the style and pacing he will need longer and probably more books than he planned. He won't be able to wrap up everything in the amount of books planned. You guys talk about "how will the show so xyz in 2 seasons" but Martin has way more to cram in to two books!
the way my man tried to play off that he didnt know ed sheeran was in this
Regarding the comments about the Quaith and her time with the Faceless Men, George meant there to be a 5 year time jump between her joining and leaving the Faceless Men so that her training could be assumed (same with Bran and the Three-eyed Crow). Also in the first book when Aria is training with Syrio Ferrell, he trains her to “see with her ears and nose” by blindfolding her. So while we don’t see what makes the difference between her suddenly being able to beat the quaith, it isn’t exactly spontaneous or unfounded.
It's called a cold open.
"Leave one wolf alive and the sheep are never safe." Love that line.
7:16 "This Ed Sheeran?" 😂 Nice job Carter. Glad y'all liked this scene and the rest of the episode too. I hope you guys keep enjoying it, but if you don't, I hope it won't be due to the influence of all the negative comments crapping on the show. I know Carter had his issues with how Arya's revenge happened, but Westeros is her home, so that's what she meant. I get that he wanted build up specifically to her committing the acts, but it wasn't just random either. I think calling it a cheap surprise is a really weird take.
Anyway, hopefully copyright won't keep being an issue with GoT, because waiting a whole week for this reaction sucked. It'd be nice if we could get back to three GoT uploads per week again until you guys finish it.
I disagree about the Arya/Frey storyline. Had they showed us, it would have spoiled Walder's surprise when he was killed & then her killing the rest of the Freys.
We are seeing it from the Frey's POV. SURPRISE, you're 💀
Felt too much like something from a super-hero movie. Like "look how badass our hero is!". This is not what Thrones used to be.
@@johnnyskinwalker4095 definitely not how George would have written it, but still believe that when it comes to shock & awe scenes, less info is more. If we'd seen her preparing for the k!ll, it wouldn't have had the same surprise punch. This was similar to the surprise of the Red Wedding & for that reason, it worked.
@@MotherTrece It felt too much like fan service. It wasn't good writing and the logic behind it was shaky. For example It may have worked when Arya took the face of the dead girl to kill Miren Trant but her portraying Walder is not realistic, can you imagine the amount of magic it would have taken to get to that point of mimicking Walder? And as far as I know Arya doesn't know any magic. I think her killing his sons and cooking a pie was far fetched enough. I guess killing Walder can work. But they didn't need to have her do this and kill tthe whole house. That's like an extreme level of OP and it makes no sense.
In later seasons they did too much like shocking scenes and writing with no build up cause they wanted to rush things and end the show. I'd would actually rather have had stories where Arya tries to enter the twins and has difficulties entering and then does. Then people trying to catch in the castle and she escapes. And then as weeks gone by, people at the twins start to die one by one. And people are getting paranoid, etc....Maybe have Arya discovering her uncle Edmure in a cell and she frees him, etc....Then at some point you have have her kill Walder. OK it would not be as shocking as what we got but there would some substance behind it.
Exactly
Arya basically trained to be a secret assassin. A big build up where we see every part of her plan defeats the purpose of her being a secret assassin. You need to be blindsided by it to see all her training was put to good use.
Sansa didn’t spend all that time with cersei to not learn a thing or 2 about the ‘game of thrones’
Love this season
Carter is spot on, here. Arya killing the Freys is essentially the split among fandom that started happening in later seasons. For some they just had a blast seeing something like this happen. But for others who are more about writing and lore, this was too over the top. It felt like fan service. And logic really went out the door. Arya killing Walder and her sons was something. But her killing the whole house and people not recognizing her was unreal. What did she learn at the House of Black and White anyway? To remove faces and fight as a blind person. She did use the face of a girl to kill Merin Trant but she was about her size. Her portraying a grown man like Walder Frey with his voice and size, it would take magic to do that and I don't think she went that far in her training with the Faceless Men.
But yea the execution of it was out of nowhere and it's clear that it was also cause they rushed it. Like one dimension movie, she appears out of nowhere and kill first Walder then the whole place. But what they should have done is maybe have Arya try to enter the Twins. And having trouble doing so. Then after succeeding maybe having people trying to capture her and her escaping. Then you hear people start disappearing at the Twins and they wonder what is happening. You do a build leading to her killing Walder. But killing the whole House, I would not have done it. Maybe instead have her find her uncle Edmure in a cell and helping him and his wife escape?
Anyway think some fans by then had stopped remembering what made them fall in love with Thrones in the first place: the writing and the complexcity of the characters. This turned the show into a super-hero movie, they just wanted the cheap thrills. Sure it's fun but it's not the same level of quality that it used to have. It was like let logic be damned and scenes happening not being earned.
Like with all the original reactors, dozens of them, the ones that reacted to the episodes as they first aired, they all had nothing negative to say about season 7 & at least half way into season 8. It's the Monday Morning QBs, mostly book readers, who didn't like the end of the show & threw a tantrum about it, saying that everything the screenwriters did on their own was a joke. Funny, because it was George's ending (He's rewriting the end, going on five years now, making the book fifteen years in the making.). Think about it, do you start complaining about your team, when you are up 2 touchdowns? No. Excuses being made that the show sped up, among a few other things. The hypocrisy, as we now know in HOTD, they skipped 10-15 years, several times, leaving the audience trying to figure out what they are seeing on the screen. Then in season 2 they stalled an entire season, because they wanted to stretch out HOTD to multiple more seasons, leaving the audience exactly where season 1 ended. Something that D&D didn't want to do with GOT, leaving GOT in a holding pattern, stretching out the last book George wrote to additional seasons until George was done with the last book. HOTD was all under George's supervision, where the lead actors, became third tier supporting actors, stuck in neutral for an entire season. What a horrible waste of talent, especially for the characters of Daemon, Raenyra, Otto & Criston. If D&D would of done HOTD season 2, there would have been a petition for HBO to fire them.
Season 8 is absoluetly terrible it made the whole show pointless and ruined every character. The plot points of the ending may be similar to George's vision except George can actually write and lead into it while D&D can't write at all and forced everything in to go to their star wars project that never happened. The reason people never complained much about s7 and even first 2 eps of season 8 was because it was still salvable enough that it could still turn out good. People had 6 seasons of investment and are not going to immeidetly hop on the hate wagon. Once you finish the show and realize the damage that happened all your suspension of criticism disappears and it makes every hole that much bigger and you realize everything in season 7 was the beginning of the end, setting up the greatest flop and worst ending in all of fiction. Its like D&D hated the show and its audience and intentionally made it bad because their is no way you get an ending this bad without it being intentional.
Agree. Book readers waited years for a show and show watchers waited years for more books for more content and Martin STILL hasnt delivered. This means everyone has too much time to steelman Dany and ignore all the signs & lore. The son of ice and fire will save the world from ice AND fire.
@@lukefox01 Did you dissect the first 5 seasons? There was plenty to dissect if you went about things the same way as the haters went on about season 8.
Some real horrible writing if you actually thought about things, all under George;s supervision, just like he is in charge of HOTD.
I won't spoil the biggest crock of crap that started it all ... since the boys haven't put up episode 3 of season 8 yet. But, did you like the Dancing Master who couldn't dance to save his life, let alone to bend down to pick up a sword, just one episode removed as to when Bronn danced around, tired his opponent & beat an armored knight, in almost the same exact scenario? Or how the Whitewalker on the horse at the end of season 2, suddenly wasn't part of the start of season 3 episode 1, when nothing the Night's Watch had could have defeated him? Sam was the first to kill a Whitewalker in thousands of years, episodes later with dragon glass, only after his sword shattered on him first. Why did the whitewalker cut out, if he alone could have killed all of the Night's Watch in minutes? Mance sent 400 Wildlings to scale a deserted part of the wall after he learned how poorly manned the defense was at Castle Black, what exactly happened to them? The leaderless 50 remaining Nightswatch repelled them? Jon & Stannis arrived a little while later, with no signs of another battle had taken place. The unsullied masters of the shield, short sword & the spear, why were they patrolling the city of Mereen with spears in tight quarter like alley ways, where they can't swing the spear without hitting an object? Why weren't they armed with short swords? Even ambushed, highly trained green berets should be able to defeat high class guys in masks armed with daggers. In season 1, Tyrion was traveling with Lannister guards after leaving Winterfell, what exactly happened to them, since they didn't put up a fight when Tyrion was taken hostage? Is Dani's clothes fire proof or not? Why didn't her clothes burn when the dragons burned the Warlock through her body? There are tons more, including the biggest one, which made all the high lords of Winterfell with 200 years of Westoros experience seem like complete imbeciles, as the poor writing had it.
I like how the hound talks simply cause it’s within his character. He’s so one worded cause he doesn’t like to open up about anything really. It’s hard for him, so when he does it’s always fun to see what he has to say.
S7 ep4 is a masterpiece. One of the best episodes in the whole show. Stay hyped.
Euron in the series is s complete joke compared to his potrayal in the books.
Some of your viewers don’t know that the end of season 5 is the end of the books of Game of Thrones. Season 6-8 is the show runners’ scripts. Martin has stated that this vision for the ending is not the same. That is why readers of the books are waiting for Martin, who seems quite lazy about finishing it, to publish it.
I'm pretty sure most of the plot points of 6,7,8 are exactly what Martin has planned. He literally gave them an outline for the ending. The only difference in the books is that it should be far more lead into and developed rather than the forced writing D&D had.
Bran came back after reading the manga in a fortnight 😂
season7 is not so bad on a first time watch! it still has some top tier moments! its when you get time to think about things you realise the execution was poor but i remember not one person complaining when waiting for season 8 to drop!
Ok I love you guys as a collective (McKay) you are my absolute favorite, but Carter and Cannon you both just talk, talk, and talk. I have said this before but when Jackson tries to talk or make a point Carter and Cannon both just talk all over him. Let Jackson speak more and let him complete his thought. At 8:22 Jackson speaks and McKay and Brig at least look at him and acknowledge he is speaking, but Carter and Cannon just look straight ahead and don't even turn to look at the guy. Come on guys you can do better. I know I can't be the only one that can see this. Justice for Jackson! Oh and one love to my guy McKay!
But Jackson always tries to make a ☝🏻🤓 point. And it’s kind of annoying
If you really watch, it’s like kind spoiler-ish.
I actually like that they don’t pay attention to him sorry 🎉
Because Jackson is too much of a mumbler and never get to any points. lol
@@johnnyskinwalker4095 true
Honestly, It is rude the way they treat him but if you watch their other reactions....it's sad to say that Jackson is even more braindead than Carter who honestly, this channel would be better off without.
He rambles, says little of consequence, talks over other people, redirects organic conversation, speaks almost completely from his emotions and just makes claims with 0 logic behind anything he says. He says soulfully impactful things (somewhat) here and there and he isn't a total waste but he makes this channel so much more worse than it could be (besides the channel likely being his creation).
He's just NOT an intelligent human being and he speaks as if he is. Dude needs to let more aware humans like Cannon and Brig take over.
@@thedappermagician6905 That's not nice
The conflict between Sansa and Jon feels so forced! Alys Karstark is unmarried, wed her to a Stark supporter. Umber is a boy and incapable of ruling effectively, give a Stark supporter command of the castle as the boys guardian until he comes of age. There's also the Dreadfort, now with the Boltons gone, that's another castle they can give away to their loyal men. Seriously, the writing....
It’s extremely forced. It’s clear after season 5. The writers use Sansa as a pawn in the story to constantly bait viewers into thinking she’s gonna “betray” her family. When that makes no sense. That’s why I can’t even take it serious or hold it against the character of Sansa.
Realistically Sansa, especially book Sansa. Would NEVER approach the situation like that. She knows how important keeping her composure is, she would speak to Jon privately about her concerns if she has any. The writers also watered down Jon from the books, everyone knows that. The show always lacked in some regards cause we don’t have characters’ thoughts, so a character like Sansa being brought to life was always harder.
Anyway, Sansa in the books is turning out to be one of the most intriguing and she’s even younger than the series. She knows how to use her strength of being a lady and making those around her absolutely love her. In the series, after Ramsey which doesn’t happen in the books, they start making her behave more like Margaery/Cersei.
@iris-xo Show Sansa and book Sansa are two completely different characters at this stage. I still love them both, just hate how the writers messed up her arc in the show!
@@cara2290 It's been a while since I read the books but isn't there a moment where she compares her solidity in her strength to different metals before settling on ivory? It's a great moment because it shows her growth and femininity which the writers just...seem to hate. It was SANSA in the books that organized her own escape in King's Landing. She listened and LEARNED you just didn't get that sense of smarts in show sansa. she was nothing but "a little bird". And attributing her growth to what she went through? big gross.
@@TheRibottoStudios "My skin has turned to porcelain, to ivory, to steel."
@@cara2290The books only go until the end of Season 5. It looks like you never read the books. Everything in Season 6-8 is the show runners’ scripts. Has nothing to do with the books. That’s why everyone is waiting for Martin’s final book so they can see what happens after the last book. He has said that his vision and the show runners’ is different and the ending will not be the same.
The resolution for the Freys is similar to Ramsay, it would have been appropriate and satisfying for these horrible people to contribute to their own destruction but when they get killed it's like an act of God and not a consequence following from their actions.
Daenerys finally makes it there, well she's on the boat so she should, I just have to put that out there because...Gendry is still rowing
24:28 did you guys realize the lyrics of GoT theme are in Valyrian and all the lyrics are just talk about Valyria, Daenerys Targaryen and her dragons. Ramin Djawadi loves Dany and Targaryen so much, all the music he made for this House is freaking amazing, not to mention the music he made in Hotd.
Where did you find that? That’s so interesting. As far as I’ve read, RD said it was Valyrian-influenced. It’s just a choir singing Valyrian influenced words to match the music. The lyrics don’t actually say anything coherent though, disappointingly :/
Would be happy to be wrong though haha
ive heard mhysa is in low valyrian as its sung by slaves for dant
I am surprised by your reaction to killing the Freys. I thought they did it perfectly. That is the style of those assassins. Under the radar and unseen.
I wouldn’t compare Robert to Aegon. Robert was a lazy fat old drunk. A great soldier but a terrible king. Jon Arryn did the true ruling. Not to mention Robert won because of the support of the Starks, Arryns and Tullys. Aegon won from his own armies and dragons. It was later the other houses supported him after bending the knee to him.
Lastly, Robert had temper problems. He couldn’t see that Lyanna never loved him. Too deluded to see it. He also justified the killing of children too.
It was AMAZING... while it lasted..
It was great to the end
Actors were exhausted because of the hours they had for filming, filming many scenes out in the freezing cold, and just practicing sword fights, getting in make-up, and rehearsing their scenes. It can be very exhausting, especially for Jon and a couple others. I read an article on Kit (Jon) explaining all this and how he felt.
37:00 big spectacles and major events coming out of no where with no basis nothing to build them up nor anything to explain them nor the aftermath...welcome to seasons 7 and 8
Don't forget that Stannis's grandmother was a Targ.
I mean...Baratheon's are a Targ offshoot at the root. First proper Baratheon was Aegons half bro
One of the main reasons the hate for the ending is so intense is because people had to wait two years for the final season. The flaws are still apparent, but it’s not as bad when you can watch episodes without a long wait in between.
I just binged the whole show 2 weeks ago and no its even more terrible than people have been telling me for the past 5 years. I lost the will to even continue after a few eps into season 7 and had to force myself to watch the rest. Truely the worst ending in all of fiction.
Thank you for the reaction! I like season 7, let’s go!
The writers rushed the ending of the show because they were supposed to do a Star Wars trilogy. But they bombed GoT last seasons so hard, the project was cancelled.
And that is called instant karma
Maisie was a huge Ed Shereen fan. So D&D wrote this scene to surprise her.
Ed was a GoT mega-fan. He and Kit lived in the same neighborhood in London and hung out from time to time. (The story how they met is pretty funny.) So getting him to do it was pretty easy.
I know they liked this episode, but rewatching this the cracks in the show are really apparent now. The dialogue just isn't really on par with where it was before, Baelish (as they rightly said) is a meme character now, that whole thing at the citadel with the maester crapping his guts out and Euron with his magical fleet of 1000 ships coming out of fin air. Now, don't get me wrong, there are still some cool moments here and there (and still to come this season) but it definitely isn't on the same level as previous seasons.
The crapping scenes represents the show at this point. lol
Its almost like things like building ships happens off screen. Littlefinger got where he was due to manipulating three Tully women. Eventually even the best get tricked & out maneuvered and it was the Tully who was also a Stark that does it.
@@orphanedhanyou It was done horribly
Anakin: This is where the fanfic begins
"She not the killing type." My guy, what show have you been watching?
It's not Ed Sheeran. It's someone wearing his face.
🐉 📺 🐺 💓 🦁
I guess you guys didn't see Coldplay's drummer, Will Champion, cameo during the Red Wedding.
the amount of things you need to just ignore for cersei be the queen is ridiculos
"it would take him forever to go from winterfell to dragonstone" yeah that´s what everyone thought, just the director kinda forgot about it
Robert was the backbone ans the stark...lannisters joined them at the end when they were sure they will win
Seaosn 6 and 7 are my personal favorite seasons.
People finally meet in this season that you wouldn't have expected.
Plus, it sets up Season 8 beautifully.
Even though season 8 turned out rough on the 2nd half, lol
I loved the show so much that I went & averaged out the votes on IMDB per episode per season, of thousands of people, about a year after the show ended. Season 6 had the highest mathematical avg. vote cast per episode, just necking out season 4. Just by the sheer amount of 10's that episodes 9 & 10 got. Season 6 had 3 of the top 6 mathematical avg. votes cast among all GOT episodes. Season 7's avg vote at the time, was 4th best, making it in the top 50% of seasons.
I agree. Season 6 and 7 were so good, in my opinion.
Writing was so bad.
Season 6 is onpar with season 4 if not slightly better. Season 7 is a big drop off and where the holes really start showing and season 8 oh God just absolutely attrocious. Might be the one piece of media I've seen I can truly say is a 1/10.
Carter thinking there was no build up to Frey’s death is looking promising for the rest of season 7 and 8. The "lack of build up" is one of the main themes they tried to explore in the show moving forward😂
hey guys much love from australia ....love the reactions ..............could you plz react to the tv show Vikings .....cheers
The whole faces thing with Arya is magic. Only in the show tho because in the books it’s different iirc
They should have adrressed it more on the show IMO
Baelish IS HIM but just dumb and dumber weren't smart enough to write him. They turned him into the most obviously sus man lmao
I miss "chaos is a ladder" Baelish
Even the smartest person can be out played & Littlefinger thought he could still manipulate Sansa. That was his downfall. He manipulated 3 Tully women & it was the final one that was also a true Stark that realized it & brought him down.
@@orphanedhanyou person who built himself to that level from nothing by understanding what everyone wants would've never made the mistake of not seeing what sansa was at that point... It's just bad writing... I was rooting for him to win the got and I saw him killed in the worst way possible... I could've come up with better writing d&d should never cook again...
No need for a build up when it’s supposed to be a surprise for the viewers. I don’t think it was a cheap surprise either. The building up was since season 3.
Why do you guys hate the guy in the left so much?
People blow the final seasons hate out of proportion. It’s just a tv show have fun with it. Those last 3 episodes are definitely cursed tho
Nah the suprise Frey kill was good because it mirrored the surprise of the red wedding. Better than spending half a season there watching Arya work her way up the corporate wench ladder to be able to pull off her scheme.
11:01 this is exactly why you should just be quiet throughout these reactions Jack 😂
Why ? What's wrong with him and the rest ?
@@fosterhb3774 he says some spoilery things even tho he doesn’t really notice it. But that’s only because he’s watched the show, as many of us would. But it’s just easily apparent with him than the other guy that’s also watched it
All I can say is that you guys should seriously read the books. It’s so worth it!
Someone went from Monster to Redbull, and I respect the change.
By Sansa's reasoning, the Lannisters were justified to take Winterfell from the Starks. Jon takes the position that the family and it's history can't be erased over politics.
Brig really read the script with Euron😂
17:58 THIS is the moment that ended GoT as we know it.😂 Like fr tho, from this moment onwards everything felt more meta that it's kinda less epic.
Like you expect things to happen and D&D knows you expect it, & they ended up giving it to you in the most underwhelming way.
This is when the whole "subverting expections" non-sense was at its peak. Forget long established writing and lore lets just do anything to surprise people
Carter, you'll find a home among the GOT/ASOIAF fandom, you get it man. So much wasted potential in the show, and we've been talking about for years now. Hoping GRRM will do all these storylines right with the books 🤞
Actually it's my Favorite season. Because my long lasting wish came true in this season. Iykyk 😏
Welp, it’s all downhill from here boys.
Coulda said that 2 seasons ago.
nah not really. there is some good stuff that also most likely has to happen in the books once Martin is done (in whatever century).
@@Polo-wk7zlbut that just isn’t true 😂
Nope it take off & we get to the nitty gritty TRUTH and some people (like Dany) can't handle it.
Loved every Season 😎💯🤟
Why did I decide to watch this while having lunch xD
David Bradley f*cking killed it, the dude is acting like Arya who is acting like Walder and he nailed it perfectly.
After this point, I don't mean to be a Debby Downer, but the show goes down hill plot wise after this. I mean it kinda started with Sansa lying about having an army for the Battle of the Bastards, useless drama formulated by armatures.
However, I believe that the actors knew this, and they stepped up to their roles the best they can. In interviews you can see the actual pain on their faces, you can almost hear it in the show. There is just 1 more grand performance, with utterly perfect acting and I can't wait for it. After that though, prolly won't be watching the trash fire that is season 8