That pricing is insane. I bought a 2021 Tacoma SR5 4x4 V6 for $33k new. The TRD Off Road was $37k. I thought the pricing was still high back then. Looks like they're following Fords footsteps, which isn't working out for Ford in the least.
When made in texas, it was good. 17 bucks an hour for labor. Now made in Mexico with labor costs less than 3 bucks an hour. Price went up over 20% and reliability has dropped, go figure!
@@HiPlains1In 2023, I called up Toyota and asked where it was made. They said I needed to go to the dealership and run each actual VIN, because they could be American, Mexican, or even Japanese. That's from their own mouth. Apparently, they were not all Mexican until the 2024 soft Taco came out.
@@jeanclaude7018 Don't know why they would say that. Especially the Japanese part. Some Tacomas were still made through 2021 in San Antonio. Then they all moved to Mexico making room for the new Sequoia alongside the Tundra.
Shame on Toyota of Japan and Toyota USA for letting this happen. Heads should roll. Complete overhaul of manufacturing processes should happen. But it won't happen. Absolutely unthinkable reliability and quality issues for this once legendary brand. This scenario is not unique to Toyota. Many manufacturers have this with new models yet we continue to buy them. Do you really want to roll the dice for reliability while spending over $50000.00 ? Read that statement again. And again. Do you as a consumer have that much money to be potentially throwing it away on junk? If you do, unfortunately you have more money than brains. If we as consumers just keep buying vehicles that are being manufactured as a disposable commodity by the manufacturers, they will never improve the quality of what they produce- never. Manufacturers count on the fact that most will buy a new car every few years so there is no need to build longevity into models. Good luck with any improvement in quality bc Americans are car crazy and always have to buy the latest and the greatest. I used to get really excited about new models. Now the only thing that comes to mind is '... I wonder how many issues this car is going to have ?' Good luck to anyone who buys a new Tacoma.
I actually talked to him and asked him if he needed any help. And he said help was on the way, so I kept going. He did have the hood up. I don't know if that means anything.
@jeanclaude7018 I really don't know. I asked him if he needed help. He said help was on the way. I kept going, but he did have his hood up. I don't know if that means anything.
the outgoing gen3 TRD pro was $52k. This model you show here is a TRD off road with options for $55. Then the Gen 4 TRD Pro is $68k? They are all overpriced. Though I would love a manual one... with a V6.
Changed my mind on the Tacoma. I don't want a tiny twin turbo and the transmission sounds like trouble. Gladiator my next choice is over priced for the unreliability you pay for.
I’ll give them another year to work the kinks out of that truck. I’ll never feel totally solid about the new Tacoma, but, I think they’ll make it much better than it is now. Just hope my 2012 will hold up another year or two……and I’m pretty confident that it will
Cherry picked data, there was a slow roll out due to manufacturing ramp up in a new facility, go look at the monthly numbers, currently selling at a comparable pace on A monthly basis to last year. Whole lot of deliberate misinformation for clicks in this video.
Except this generation has internal bump stops with the aluminum top hats that will explode. Also no proper external trans intercooler. This isn't a new model issue. Just underbuilt design.
Funny, 1st year of new Frontier launched without Toyota bugs and drama. Amazing what happens when the R&D is done BEFORE the product is released for sale. No sympathy for Saint Toyota.
This is exactly why I purchased my 2023 Tacoma Sport a year ago! $3000 off list and 4% loan. Baaaammmm!!!! 4 Cylinder?....4 Cylinder? I don't need no Stinkin..4 Cylinder!!
I have been a Toyota guy for over 15 years, got a new Tacoma every 3 years, between the price and reliability issues I most likely be going Ford this time. Real shame.
It’s because they are not built in Japan anymore. A good example is the Lexus RX300 and NX300. After shifting manufacturing to Ontario, Canada in 2022 you see so many of them on the used market. Dealer told me it’s because they are lease returns which is total nonsense as all leases are sold on a three year lease plan.
Funny, not being built in Japan has not hurt the quality of NISSAN trucks. Even my 1987 Hardbody was built in USA. Running strong at 430,000 miles. I'm so tired of everyone making every excuse for Saint Toyota, as if it's their Mother or sister they need to defend.
They will sell; no problem. See more and more of them on the road. People just don’t give a rip about long-term reliability in our disposable/throwaway culture. 🤷♂️😳
They won't and aren't selling, that's why so many are sitting on the dealership lots. Until they come off the price , people are gonna spend their hard earned money elsewhere. If someone is gonna spend $55k for a truck, they'll just get a full sized for that price with better options. This truck should be in the mid 40's range and it would sell like hotcakes. Nice truck, just not worth the price tag.
@ 100% agree on all your valid points. After test driving a premium trd off-road fourth gen Tacoma, I know I made an intelligent and morally correct decision to retain my 2022 Tacoma trd pro (bought and paid for) for the long haul.
@@deantrainr You will definitely be happy with your 2022 until Toyota works out the kinks in the 4th gen, in the meantime, yours will hold it's value. I originally looked at the 2024 TRD Pro but couldn't justify the $65k price tag and the ride quality just wasn't there for what I was looking for. I ended up getting a 2024 Nissan Frontier Pro 4X fully loaded with every option for $45k out the door and couldn't be happier. Wish Toyota would've stuck with the V6, it was/is bulletproof, and if the price was more in line with the Frontier, I may have gotten it instead.
@@DouglasB65 Smart decision on your part getting a Nissan frontier and after test driving the fourth gen Tacoma, it’s just cheaper overall and I won’t be willing to wait for Toyota to work the bugs out of the fourth gen Tacoma. My old first gen Tacoma, I got over 24 years on and hopefully will be able to do the same with my third gen Tacoma.
misread the video thumbnail as tacoman in trouble. glad tacoman is all right. sale problems with tacomas are partly due to rampant catalytic converter thefts especially in big cities. no one wants a vehicle targetted like that that costs a lot of money to replace and weeks to wait for the part. some of the thieves are even armed.
No, Frontier absolutely does not suck. Apparently you don't even look at them as a truck. Endless positive feedback from actual buyers. Did you actually try them out?
Agreed. Toyota styling language is not for me. Body lines going everywhere. Yet I must concede that Mexican soft Taco is not as ugly as big brother Tundra is. I give the Tundra front grille the Edsel award .
So I wonder with Trump going to be in office soon and his promise to overall government if he will do so to the EPA and change CARF standards. This would allow manufacturers to return to putting V8's in full size pick ups and V6's in mid size pick ups. Might be the best thing for the auto industry and consumers.
My '22 tacoma trd off-road was $38k brand new, I thought that was crazy espensive but really wanted it so splurged. Wow did I make a good decision. The new Toyota products are absolute garbage, and prices 50% more. What an absolute joke. Also fk turbo 4 cylnder
Nissan Frontier
My 2019 Tacoma has been rock solid. I’m keeping it!
At 200,000 miles it'll be more valuable than a new one.
My 2016 Tacoma is rock solid and I'm keeping it also.
My 2023 tacoma is getting timing cover reseal and im selling it 😂
Bring back a naturally aspirated engine option
@@sevendewey Frontier
emission laws globally , the new socialism
I have a 22 and it's bullet proof. If I were in the market for a new truck it would like be the frontier instead of the 4th hen tacoma
I've been seeing a lot more new nissan frontiers here than 2024 tacoma's in texas it's insane.
No, actually the AMERICAN, reliable, non-turbo Frontier is the SANE choice, which even Toyota fans are embracing .
I'm so happy I got my 2023 TRD Off-Road, very grateful.
That pricing is insane. I bought a 2021 Tacoma SR5 4x4 V6 for $33k new. The TRD Off Road was $37k. I thought the pricing was still high back then. Looks like they're following Fords footsteps, which isn't working out for Ford in the least.
When made in texas, it was good. 17 bucks an hour for labor. Now made in Mexico with labor costs less than 3 bucks an hour. Price went up over 20% and reliability has dropped, go figure!
They've been built in Mexico for decades. My 2008 was and it's awesome. Everyone loves second gens
For a time there were Tacoma's built in Mexico as well as San Antonio
@@HiPlains1In 2023, I called up Toyota and asked where it was made. They said I needed to go to the dealership and run each actual VIN, because they could be American, Mexican, or even Japanese. That's from their own mouth. Apparently, they were not all Mexican until the 2024 soft Taco came out.
@@jeanclaude7018 Don't know why they would say that. Especially the Japanese part. Some Tacomas were still made through 2021 in San Antonio. Then they all moved to Mexico making room for the new Sequoia alongside the Tundra.
the tundra was made in texas, tacoma made in mexico
Shame on Toyota of Japan and Toyota USA for letting this happen. Heads should roll. Complete overhaul of manufacturing processes should happen. But it won't happen.
Absolutely unthinkable reliability and quality issues for this once legendary brand.
This scenario is not unique to Toyota. Many manufacturers have this with new models yet we continue to buy them. Do you really want to roll the dice for reliability while spending over $50000.00 ? Read that statement again. And again. Do you as a consumer have that much money to be potentially throwing it away on junk? If you do, unfortunately you have more money than brains. If we as consumers just keep buying vehicles that are being manufactured as a disposable commodity by the manufacturers, they will never improve the quality of what they produce- never. Manufacturers count on the fact that most will buy a new car every few years so there is no need to build longevity into models. Good luck with any improvement in quality bc Americans are car crazy and always have to buy the latest and the greatest. I used to get really excited about new models. Now the only thing that comes to mind is '... I wonder how many issues this car is going to have ?' Good luck to anyone who buys a new Tacoma.
Nobody wants this stupid, overly complex, overpriced "truck."
It’s not a Tacoma. It’s something completely different with a Tacoma badge slapped on it.
Actually there are great lease deals on it.
Stupid, no. Overpriced, yes.
@@John-kx3ngpass.
Body style is lack luster as well.
I've owned 3 previous generation Tacoma's for my plumbing business but I wouldn't buy the new one.
After all the hype of the new turbos I bought a 21 4runner and 20 years or so Ill drive by the junkyard and wave to them
You can't mention a $400 per month without mentioning how much down would be required. There are two numbers to that equation.
I seen a 24 broke down in Mansfield, Texas, on the 19th on the side of the road.
Transmission
I actually talked to him and asked him if he needed any help. And he said help was on the way, so I kept going. He did have the hood up. I don't know if that means anything.
@jeanclaude7018 I really don't know. I asked him if he needed help. He said help was on the way. I kept going, but he did have his hood up. I don't know if that means anything.
I love my 2024 Honda Ridgeline TrailSport 😍
They took the bump stops off the frame and gave been blowing out shocks and towers
really who cares, buy any new car at your own risk toyota or what ever
Here in Puerto Rico the Toyota dealers want 85k for TRD model. Are they crazy?
No, they're scumbags.
From the reliable V6 to the Turbo 4 Cylinder? No Thanks. I will continue to drive my 2022 Tacoma till the tire’s literally fall off..
the outgoing gen3 TRD pro was $52k. This model you show here is a TRD off road with options for $55. Then the Gen 4 TRD Pro is $68k? They are all overpriced. Though I would love a manual one... with a V6.
Changed my mind on the Tacoma. I don't want a tiny twin turbo and the transmission sounds like trouble. Gladiator my next choice is over priced for the unreliability you pay for.
I’ll give them another year to work the kinks out of that truck. I’ll never feel totally solid about the new Tacoma, but, I think they’ll make it much better than it is now. Just hope my 2012 will hold up another year or two……and I’m pretty confident that it will
Cherry picked data, there was a slow roll out due to manufacturing ramp up in a new facility, go look at the monthly numbers, currently selling at a comparable pace on A monthly basis to last year. Whole lot of deliberate misinformation for clicks in this video.
Purchased a 24 4runner TRD Pro 8 months ago and it blue books for what i paid. I wont buy anything with all this mew tech
Good for you!
4runners are still made in Japan. i hope
@vincesmith764 they are
%25 chicken tax
An all new powertrain & model having 1st year bugs is nothing new.
Except this generation has internal bump stops with the aluminum top hats that will explode. Also no proper external trans intercooler. This isn't a new model issue. Just underbuilt design.
Funny, 1st year of new Frontier launched without Toyota bugs and drama. Amazing what happens when the R&D is done BEFORE the product is released for sale. No sympathy for Saint Toyota.
This is exactly why I purchased my 2023 Tacoma Sport a year ago! $3000 off list and 4% loan. Baaaammmm!!!! 4 Cylinder?....4 Cylinder? I don't need no Stinkin..4 Cylinder!!
Too ugly. Too many lines. Too many angles, bumps, textures, and colors. Too many Toyota, TRD, and Tacoma logos.
Even 15% off is not enough
Beds way too small. 😢
Yup I won't buy one .
They took the build quality techniques
From Ford and GM Silverados and such.
Darn. Toyota shouldve kept the trucks as non hybrids
Ugh, hello they are non hybrids. U Will eventually have a hybrid option 😊. Pay attention will ya ?????
I have been a Toyota guy for over 15 years, got a new Tacoma every 3 years, between the price and reliability issues I most likely be going Ford this time. Real shame.
Reputation damage to this legend?=priceless (worth far more than just an 8-10% discount for someone willing to roll-the-dice)
The bed's too small.
JUNK!
The back seat is too small
Lol cold plunge here in brokenfridge is just fill the tub with cold domestic water... Its usually 45 degrees out of the tap!
Lol
That blue color, definitely worth $10k extra.
i hope this is sarcasm
@nastysoda9212 I bought my 2019 sport in that blue,manual transmission,every option,$43,000.
@nastysoda9212 the SR would have been a great truck,but to get the blue,I had to move up to the sport trim,yes I paid $10,000 for that blue.
It's a no brainer, it's the $$$$$$$ Besides that, trucks are no longer a status item.
No way in hell would I pay for this overpriced now seemingly unreliable truck.
I’m considering a new Tacoma if I can find a two Xtra cab which has been different so far in my area.
Even 20% off I'm still not even look these over price v4 turbo junks plus plastic every where.
Which page is showing us the percentage of tacomas issues?
How many tacomas transmisión been replacing?
MANY more than Frontier!
I'll keep my 2001 GMC s15 w/265k miles
It’s because they are not built in Japan anymore. A good example is the Lexus RX300 and NX300. After shifting manufacturing to Ontario, Canada in 2022 you see so many of them on the used market. Dealer told me it’s because they are lease returns which is total nonsense as all leases are sold on a three year lease plan.
Funny, not being built in Japan has not hurt the quality of NISSAN trucks. Even my 1987 Hardbody was built in USA. Running strong at 430,000 miles.
I'm so tired of everyone making every excuse for Saint Toyota, as if it's their Mother or sister they need to defend.
they never were! tacomas never built in japan
But they say its the best selling mid size pick? how can that be if 25k units are sitting on dealer lots?
They will sell; no problem. See more and more of them on the road. People just don’t give a rip about long-term reliability in our disposable/throwaway culture. 🤷♂️😳
They won't and aren't selling, that's why so many are sitting on the dealership lots. Until they come off the price , people are gonna spend their hard earned money elsewhere. If someone is gonna spend $55k for a truck, they'll just get a full sized for that price with better options. This truck should be in the mid 40's range and it would sell like hotcakes. Nice truck, just not worth the price tag.
@ 100% agree on all your valid points. After test driving a premium trd off-road fourth gen Tacoma, I know I made an intelligent and morally correct decision to retain my 2022 Tacoma trd pro (bought and paid for) for the long haul.
@@deantrainr You will definitely be happy with your 2022 until Toyota works out the kinks in the 4th gen, in the meantime, yours will hold it's value. I originally looked at the 2024 TRD Pro but couldn't justify the $65k price tag and the ride quality just wasn't there for what I was looking for. I ended up getting a 2024 Nissan Frontier Pro 4X fully loaded with every option for $45k out the door and couldn't be happier. Wish Toyota would've stuck with the V6, it was/is bulletproof, and if the price was more in line with the Frontier, I may have gotten it instead.
@@DouglasB65 Smart decision on your part getting a Nissan frontier and after test driving the fourth gen Tacoma, it’s just cheaper overall and I won’t be willing to wait for Toyota to work the bugs out of the fourth gen Tacoma. My old first gen Tacoma, I got over 24 years on and hopefully will be able to do the same with my third gen Tacoma.
@@deantrainrwhy didn’t you like it besides price🤔
I do like the trd pro tacoma....aint gonna lie.
misread the video thumbnail as tacoman in trouble. glad tacoman is all right.
sale problems with tacomas are partly due to rampant catalytic converter thefts especially in big cities. no one wants a vehicle targetted like that that costs a lot of money to replace and weeks to wait for the part. some of the thieves are even armed.
Yea that’s an issue but that is not something that affects sales lol.
😃
Toyota went woke now going broke.
maybe trump will order these manufactureres to bring back a v8 and v6!
Honda will continue with theirs.
Hopefully nissan too
The Tacoma is overpriced now.
But not overbuilt
All new trucks just absolutely suck…
No, Frontier absolutely does not suck. Apparently you don't even look at them as a truck. Endless positive feedback from actual buyers. Did you actually try them out?
Tacos are ugly vehicles.
Styling is subjective.
Agreed. Toyota styling language is not for me. Body lines going everywhere.
Yet I must concede that Mexican soft Taco is not as ugly as big brother Tundra is. I give the Tundra front grille the Edsel award .
It’s like Richard Hammond would say, “ Its almost like they don’t know how to stop “
Tacos are fugly.
Drop a V8 into the Tacoma,and watch it sell!
Get real. They won't even drop a V8 in the Tundra! And look at the results.
@jeanclaude7018 my 1974 454 gets 10 mpg,50 years later,with all these sensors and gadgets,they've eeked out a whole 3 mpg? Fail!!!!!
@@XCELERATIONRULES I agree! My Ford 429 in a 4x4 automatic got 10. What are they doing wrong? And big iron V8s never break down.
Got my 23 Taco before the crappy turbo.
10% discount while they raised prices 40% ? No thank you
So I wonder with Trump going to be in office soon and his promise to overall government if he will do so to the EPA and change CARF standards. This would allow manufacturers to return to putting V8's in full size pick ups and V6's in mid size pick ups. Might be the best thing for the auto industry and consumers.
My '22 tacoma trd off-road was $38k brand new, I thought that was crazy espensive but really wanted it so splurged. Wow did I make a good decision. The new Toyota products are absolute garbage, and prices 50% more. What an absolute joke. Also fk turbo 4 cylnder
Trd Jon 😢