Food Theory: Why is the Government Hiding 1.4 BILLION Pounds of Cheese?

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    Theorists, did you know the government is hiding caves full of cheese from us? Well, sort of. Today we dive into the weird, melty mystery of government cheese. Is it real? What exactly IS it and why are we all not swimming in government funded grilled cheese sandwiches? It's time to take a bite out of the mystery that is government cheese!
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  • @jupiter_jazz
    @jupiter_jazz Год назад +10773

    as a theorist and science lover, i would like to look at 1.4 billion pounds of cheese. as a cheese lover, i’d like to eat 1.4 billion pounds of cheese. and lastly as a lactose intolerant person, i would like to avoid 1.4 billion pounds of cheese.

    • @GrandLynx-kp2zi
      @GrandLynx-kp2zi Год назад +363

      I feel sorry for you

    • @arnavgarg69
      @arnavgarg69 Год назад +114

      yes.

    • @KarmaticBuggAdventures
      @KarmaticBuggAdventures Год назад +218

      All of these things! I agree completely and feel your pain as I eat some cheese now that will, for sure, make me suffer later...

    • @OpinionFactChecker
      @OpinionFactChecker Год назад

      And we want to avoid you as a lactose intolerant person!

    • @kapitan762x54R
      @kapitan762x54R Год назад +72

      Yeah lactose is a pain. Stick to vegan cheese. It tasted good in grilled cheese sadwiches atleast.

  • @aro4457
    @aro4457 Год назад +2482

    I’m starting to think about 70% of the reasoning behind every food theory topic is dependent on how many dad jokes Matpat can make within the span of the video

  • @hayleemk06
    @hayleemk06 Год назад +1482

    As a Missourian, a while back my friends and I decided that when we’re elderly, we’ll break into the cheese cave and make it our retirement home.
    Glad to see an inside joke amongst my friends covered on the channel!

    • @_helvetixa
      @_helvetixa Год назад +24

      Yeah, im glad you let those journalists write about your inside joke! Very nice of you guys!

    • @hayleemk06
      @hayleemk06 Год назад +52

      @@_helvetixa Yeah, we ALMOST decided to sue them for it, but they offered us some of the cheese to let them cover it, so we let them after a lot of consideration. 😌

    • @fitybux4664
      @fitybux4664 Год назад +15

      Why break in when you can just tunnel down from a perpendicular direction and install a covert door? 😆

    • @hayleemk06
      @hayleemk06 Год назад +14

      @Fity Bux omg I think I’m gonna have to invest in a really big shovel now…

    • @godsquad5789
      @godsquad5789 Год назад +8

      @@hayleemk06 As a springfield resident, may i help?

  • @jaysrandomvideos9483
    @jaysrandomvideos9483 Год назад +728

    Idea for theory : would a person survive by just taking pills with necessary amount of vitamins and minerals that the body needs ?

    • @AmaraJordanMusic
      @AmaraJordanMusic Год назад +66

      Interesting idea. He could talk about bioavailability.
      Oh, and water. 😊

    • @herowither12354
      @herowither12354 Год назад +14

      Someone already did that once.

    • @davidsudjana
      @davidsudjana Год назад +34

      isnt that just the hospital

    • @williamwoolf8072
      @williamwoolf8072 Год назад +56

      no. humans needs macronutrients and micronutrients to survive. macronutrients: protein, carbs, fats does not retain all their nutritional value if you put it into a pill so you would die of malnourishment if you rely on pills for macronutrients.

    • @williamwoolf8072
      @williamwoolf8072 Год назад

      thats why a lot of vegans are malnourished and have health problems, because they are either not taking the correct protein supplement or the correct dose

  • @TrickyNixon2505
    @TrickyNixon2505 Год назад +2111

    I swear matpats Alliteration skills are on point and getting better and better

  • @pairashibito4911
    @pairashibito4911 Год назад +590

    “How many cheese puns do you want?”
    Matpatt: “Yes”

  • @ChipInDip
    @ChipInDip Год назад +183

    My buddy from high school used to mock the school lunch’s cheese by calling it “government cheese,” both because of its texture, and because of how the government is involved in school lunches.
    Three years later, and I learn it was actually a reference to real Government Cheese

  • @coolishness13
    @coolishness13 Год назад +34

    As a factory worker who packages cheese, a fun tidbit i can divulge is we package cheese at least 6 months ahead of the best by date. The pandemic really messed us up, a lot of warehouses burned through their extra stock and my production floor in particular went to 6 day weeks to keep up with future projections. After 2 years of 6 day weeks, we finally slowed down to 6 days every other week. Still a nightmare but when it's the best paying job in the area, you do what you gotta do.

  • @mummamortitia
    @mummamortitia Год назад +936

    As an English 80's kid, I wondered if MatPat knew about the "Butter Mountain" surplus. We used to get given small wrapped pats of butter at school that they said was from the butter Mountain. As a tiny kid it sounded very literal. Lol! Xx

    • @genseven4616
      @genseven4616 Год назад +18

      that butter, cheese, peanut butter, and dried milk was the best in my opinion.

    • @Chronicler9
      @Chronicler9 Год назад +4

      Whoa! Cool! haha I kinda wish I grew up with that kind of memory

    • @salemcrow5078
      @salemcrow5078 Год назад +13

      It's funny because, I don't remember when it was, but some country - I think a Nordic country like Sweden or Finland - ran out of butter once. Maybe that's where all their butter went lol

    • @sonjaimmonen6610
      @sonjaimmonen6610 Год назад +10

      @@salemcrow5078 Norway's butter crisis of 2011! The Technical Difficulties have a wonderful Citation Needed episode on this.

    • @nesamdoom
      @nesamdoom Год назад +1

      I've never seen them of butter. It's always margarine here.

  • @theneonwarriors3794
    @theneonwarriors3794 Год назад +1355

    If someone wanted the cheese, how would they go about getting it? Asking for a friend

    • @mariomaster101official
      @mariomaster101official Год назад +42

      I feel like this comment will get popular

    • @williamdegnan4718
      @williamdegnan4718 Год назад +136

      Tell your _friend_ "That's nacho cheese".

    • @Ahrpigi
      @Ahrpigi Год назад +74

      Global warming, the cheese will melt and eventually flow out of the mountain.

    • @watermelongirl142
      @watermelongirl142 Год назад +3

      I am that friend (not really but cheesee)

    • @Mix-si6bu
      @Mix-si6bu Год назад +1

      Cheez I want cheez!

  • @brittonwalker5506
    @brittonwalker5506 Год назад +166

    That was probably my favorite pronunciation of the word "deseret" I have ever heard. Sorry, MatPat, it doesn't come from French. This is one of the few English words that is actually spelt phonetically. It's pronounced like desert, just with an extra syllable before the last "t".

    • @eelvis1674
      @eelvis1674 Год назад +4

      I was shocked that he had never heard the word deseret before

    • @priestly8164
      @priestly8164 Год назад +10

      @@eelvis1674 Yeah it’s kind of a Utah word.

    • @eelvis1674
      @eelvis1674 Год назад +4

      @@priestly8164 it's also just a general US history word

    • @cubicinfinity2
      @cubicinfinity2 Год назад +1

      I was actually questioning if I have been pronouncing it wrong, but it does have an English origin.

    • @donutnarwhal135
      @donutnarwhal135 Год назад +4

      yea it made me giggle when he said that

  • @davidheckman6563
    @davidheckman6563 Год назад +93

    As an older guy who grew up with government cheese in the house as a kid, I think you have missed the most important aspect of what made it wonderfully delicious. LOL Mind you, I never had to cook with it, so I don't know the horrors that was awaiting those 'craft'y type moms, but as a kid that was able to slice a giant chunk of cheese off for a snack... It was awesome.
    Oddly, one of my fond memories about food as a kid is enjoying the heck out of government cheese LOL
    I have a strong nostalgia factor regarding that cheese and when you said it was the bottom of the 'barrel' quality, I was like, "Really? I never knew." LOL Makes sense though. Guess it is just a matter of whose eyes you are looking through.

    • @funveeable
      @funveeable Год назад +4

      The most dangerous words are, "I'm from the government and I'm here to help.

    • @ayoCC
      @ayoCC Год назад +5

      ​@@funveeablebetter than companies trying to make you think they deserve less regulations

    • @deathraven7314
      @deathraven7314 Год назад +2

      ​@@ayoCC mmmmmmm no. Both are equally terrible.

    • @Sniperboy5551
      @Sniperboy5551 5 месяцев назад

      @ayoCC Regulations are generally bad, but some are necessary. I’m all for stripping the federal government of most of their power. Less regulation means more freedom. It’s not a free market if it’s heavily regulated.

  • @mattpowers7193
    @mattpowers7193 Год назад +790

    I grew up in Springfield and I have been to the "cheese caves". We took a field trip in elementary school. There was a permeating pepper smell to the entire complex.

    • @bkdmode
      @bkdmode Год назад +74

      So you're saying that the cheese in the caves isn't "cheddar" but is in fact "Pepperjack"?

    • @ryansweet3412
      @ryansweet3412 Год назад +13

      Springfield gang!!

    • @Cat_Garfield
      @Cat_Garfield Год назад +7

      @@bkdmode what's pepperjack

    • @OnlyShots_
      @OnlyShots_ Год назад +16

      @@Cat_Garfield a type of cheese

    • @Cat_Garfield
      @Cat_Garfield Год назад +7

      @@OnlyShots_ That's a stupid name for cheese

  • @Cloud_Strife0811
    @Cloud_Strife0811 Год назад +630

    I lived in a military family for 16 years. They would give out 5lb blocks of cheese every week. That's where the term " government cheese " came from. So where did they get all this cheese from... 😂😂

    • @arctic215
      @arctic215 Год назад +9

      Interesting, what did it taste like?

    • @dylancountney3045
      @dylancountney3045 Год назад +9

      They probably got it from Wisconsin

    • @pokemon_teamhyperbeam
      @pokemon_teamhyperbeam Год назад +7

      @@dylancountney3045 yep probably

    • @dylancountney3045
      @dylancountney3045 Год назад +7

      @@pokemon_teamhyperbeam Wisconsin makes most of the cheese in the US

    • @naruto7282
      @naruto7282 Год назад +4

      @@Subliminalsapper it could depend on the area idk lol

  • @duskstardragon
    @duskstardragon Год назад +26

    As someone who grew up in Missouri, I remember hearing about the Cheese Cave. Jokes that it was full of government cheese. I guess it was true.

    • @notrichardmnixon868
      @notrichardmnixon868 Год назад

      Well I live nixa missouri a city a couple miles south from springfield so logicaly I am better than you in every way

    • @duskstardragon
      @duskstardragon Год назад +2

      @@notrichardmnixon868 Okay

    • @funveeable
      @funveeable Год назад

      It's always the government. They look for problems and burn your tax dollars to solve it which always creates more problems.

  • @TacticalGhost939
    @TacticalGhost939 Год назад +14

    I’m 41 now and definitely remember getting government cheese as a kid. My friends and I still bring it up sometimes that it wasn’t that bad.

  • @MrTheratedG
    @MrTheratedG Год назад +1016

    This episode got me thinking of the whole "The moon is made of Cheese thing" what would that be like? what kinda cheese would be? and how long could a moon made of cheese last in space? this would be a fun theory to do I hope he does it.

    • @BubblegumLightsaber
      @BubblegumLightsaber Год назад +58

      When I was growing up, I always heard it as "the moon is made of _green_ cheese", "green" in this context meaning unripe, but as a kid I thought it literally meant the color green.

    • @TraningSword
      @TraningSword Год назад +14

      It’s made of Wensleydale or Stilton

    • @arsh9402
      @arsh9402 Год назад +7

      @@TraningSword Wallace? That you?

    • @tanimation7289
      @tanimation7289 Год назад +6

      I remember hearing that the moon cheese is a kind of green cheese.

    • @emilyjones2794
      @emilyjones2794 Год назад +3

      Reminds me of Wallace and Gromit, the moon chees episode made me want to try the cheese.

  • @bobtf2485
    @bobtf2485 Год назад +569

    Food theory idea:How much cheese would it take to build an artificial cheese moon and also how much would it cost? #TeamTheorist

  • @ErrorNumber404
    @ErrorNumber404 Год назад +21

    I have an idea for another food theory: Which cheese (or cheese type) is the best cheese overall?
    Judged on taste, smell, physical properties such as melting and texture, and how well it mixes with other ingredients. I think it’d be an interesting episode and another excuse to be in the Food Theory Kitchen™️.

  • @AnimeOtakuDrew
    @AnimeOtakuDrew Год назад +12

    Here in Oklahoma we called it "commodities cheese," and I loved it! It was great for making cheese sauce to put over broccoli, macaroni and cheese, nachos, and plenty of other things. And we never had any problems melting it; it melted about the same as Velveeta (though I always thought the commodities cheese tasted better). I would say that we just got lucky, but it was consistently good EVERY time we got it (which was often when I was being raised by a single mother).

  • @CrayRT
    @CrayRT Год назад +1460

    Food Theory Idea: What is theoretically the highest you can stack a pancake? And what strategies can you do to prevent them from falling.
    I love your videos so much. And this is just a random question I just got curious about after binging youtube at 3am.

    • @daltigoth3970
      @daltigoth3970 Год назад +97

      Well, without any limitations placed on the size and structure of the pancakes, and from a purely mathematical standpoint, if you have infinite space to work with, you can stack your pancakes infinitely high as long as each pancake is 5% or so smaller than the pancake under it.
      But within the confines of what could realistically be tested, this question is pretty much impossible to answer without stringent guidelines to follow. Variations in diameter, shape, thickness, the ingredients of the pancake, how much they are whipped/blended, how long they are cooked and how long they are allowed to cool before stacking can all significantly change the answer. Crepes are basically just super-thin pancakes, for example, and you can easily stack several hundred of those, even if they are the same size, whereas if you tried to stack the Eggo-brand mini pancakes, you'd be lucky to get more than a dozen stacked before it fell over, and even less if they are frozen while stacking them. And of course, you could kind of cheat things to get a larger "stack" by making numerous stable stacks, freezing them, then steaming the top and bottom pancakes in each stack, put the stacks together, then freeze it again to make one giant frozen stack - do it with crepe-thin pancakes and you could get tens of thousands of pancakes in a frozen stack.

    • @Kwidge-
      @Kwidge- Год назад +34

      @@daltigoth3970 Very nice. This is what people should be spending their time on; how to make a huge stack of pancakes lol.

    • @zackbuildit88
      @zackbuildit88 Год назад +20

      @@daltigoth3970 forgot to account for the sponginess of pancakes making them gradually compress, once they compress enough the ones at the bottom will just become a pulp like substance that would no longer hold any weight

    • @daltigoth3970
      @daltigoth3970 Год назад +9

      @@zackbuildit88 That was implied by the ingredients, how much they are whipped, and the temperature of the pancakes while stacking them...I accounted for that.

    • @_Fuscous
      @_Fuscous Год назад +8

      If you want to stop your pancakes from falling, just skewer them. You can then hide the skewer with the famous tablespoon of butter on top.

  • @ryanjamesj44
    @ryanjamesj44 Год назад +209

    I remember eating the real government cheese as a kid. Honestly, outside the weird texture it really was good for Mac and cheese and grilled cheese. Heck sometimes I even crave it today.

    • @joshuarichardson6529
      @joshuarichardson6529 Год назад +16

      I remember it being a cross between Velvetta and Kraft Singles. Highly processed and very bland.

    • @CaTastrophy427
      @CaTastrophy427 Год назад +5

      --The secret ingredient is cocaine--

  • @ter6501
    @ter6501 Год назад +8

    You know to come to think of it... Keeping perishable food on stand by just in case is a pretty simple idea. The cave is saving them an immense amount of electricity.

  • @cogrin
    @cogrin Год назад +7

    been catching up on all the theory channels and just gotta say the amount of work and creativity you guys have is mesmerizing

  • @someonenotsomeone8450
    @someonenotsomeone8450 Год назад +276

    As a Missourian, I can safely say that I am not surprised at all. I'm fairly certain that there's a heck of a lot more than cheese in Missouri's caves.

  • @DerpyPossum
    @DerpyPossum Год назад +206

    I’m absolutely *LOVING* these “debunking”-esque videos! It’s a neat change of pace every once in a while :)
    Keep ‘em up 👍

  • @artastic_friend
    @artastic_friend Год назад +3

    What is the longest amount of time you can age cheese? And what happens to it the longer you age it??

  • @spacegoblin0334
    @spacegoblin0334 Год назад +6

    I've heard about this government cheese .that used to be a big thing with food stamps my mom used to love this cheese when she was younger.

  • @Behold_I_am_Egg
    @Behold_I_am_Egg Год назад +824

    My family used to get a bunch of that free government cheese; so much in fact that they didn't know how to use it all up, so cheese soup became a beloved family favorite for a long time, just to get through all the big blocks of cheese. Cheese soup became such a staple that we would start to crave it even after the government cheese supply we had had had tapered off, so we tried to substitute velveeta for it in the soup recipe, but it's never been quite as good without that fake tasting giant government cheese block. 🤣 It's still tasty and filling and comforting though, with potatoes and onion and bacon. We usually serve it with fresh homemade bread.

    • @uncertifiedgrub5608
      @uncertifiedgrub5608 Год назад +23

      Have a recipe that sounds delicious

    • @Behold_I_am_Egg
      @Behold_I_am_Egg Год назад +50

      @@uncertifiedgrub5608 I'll ask my grandma for the recipe tomorrow and post it. 👍 It really is tasty and a crowd pleaser. Some day I'll figure out how to veganize cheese soup so I can eat my old favorite comfort food again. :)

    • @carlosvazquezreyes4970
      @carlosvazquezreyes4970 Год назад +9

      @@Behold_I_am_Egg that sounds fire dude, I’m thinking something like ‘potatoes au gratin’

    • @Raindrop199
      @Raindrop199 Год назад +5

      @@Behold_I_am_Egg where will ya post it? Also that sounds really good

    • @tanimation7289
      @tanimation7289 Год назад +4

      What kind of cheese was it exactly?

  • @ChengTeoh
    @ChengTeoh Год назад +71

    The cheese cave has got to be heaven for Remy from Ratatouille.

    • @coolgamer-nd8xu
      @coolgamer-nd8xu Год назад +3

      THIS IS THE MOST UNDERRATED COMMENT I HAVE EVER FOUND ON RUclips LOL

    • @Nagatem
      @Nagatem Год назад +2

      Actually rats don’t actually prefer cheese, rats will literally eat anything, cheese is just usually stored where they tend to be

    • @howdidigethere6231
      @howdidigethere6231 Год назад +2

      Or heaven for a Frenchie

  • @donsteinbarge5047
    @donsteinbarge5047 Год назад +5

    "Those that don't learn from history are apparently doomed to eat cheese"
    ~Matpat

    • @funveeable
      @funveeable Год назад

      Nobody wants to learn from history. People in America today still haven't realized that when the government prints trillions of dollars in one year, that creates inflation. They think inflation is caused by a random virus that doesn't care what the cost of your cheese is. When DC prints money, prices always go up.

  • @tmeadow2009
    @tmeadow2009 Год назад +5

    The fact that the article came out in February and the theory came out in July proves that he works hard for a while on his videos. Thank you MatPat😊

  • @rhysiemcginnis2372
    @rhysiemcginnis2372 Год назад +95

    Finally! I have been waiting for someone to cover this! I learned about this when I was a kid and I am still baffled how this didn’t catch anyones attention until the articles. I told my elementary history teacher about this and got in trouble for lying! Justice is COLD Mrs. Hilty and stored in the cheese caves.

  • @subconvextheobezoar3782
    @subconvextheobezoar3782 Год назад +81

    I remember hearing about this YEARS ago but the version I heard was that it dated back to the great depression, never knew whether it was true or not so thanks for covering this topic!

  • @deannal.newton9772
    @deannal.newton9772 Год назад +2

    In all honesty, I kind of already knew about all of this on several food episodes about cheese in my youth. It's kind of an open secret at this point and I was surprised that there were people who still didn't realize it because it has been talked about on tv in detail. That cheese was called "government cheese" and it's how we have so much food that has a lot of extra cheese on them in the food we eat.

  • @jextermaxim2665
    @jextermaxim2665 Год назад +2

    As someone who ate plenty of government cheese as a child I can tell you it was really good cheese. It came in blocks like velveta but wasn't as salty as velveta. It was creamier than hard cheeses like Swiss or provalone and not as sharp as cheddar.
    It was really good cheese. The peanut butter was awesome also .

  • @dannyearley2687
    @dannyearley2687 Год назад +140

    Yo government cheese used to be something I looked forward to as a kid, I literally thought it was the best kind of cheese 🤣

    • @FroggyPrince
      @FroggyPrince Год назад +3

      Bruh I thought it was literally inedible.

    • @kevinolive
      @kevinolive Год назад +1

      I don’t remember if it was the 70s or the 80s, but I do remember my grandma bringing home lots of cheese and sharing it with us. I thought it was OK cheese but I don’t know what I’d think of it today

    • @lacytaylor1501
      @lacytaylor1501 Год назад +4

      We used to get government cheese. I'm only 25 and that stuff part of my life up until I turned 18, even then we were still occasionally getting it along with jars of peanut butter, beans, and egg noodles if my grandma had let too many boxes stack without using them. It fit the description of the older government cheese in the video to a T. Rubbery and wouldn't really melt, still loved that and the government peanut butter.

    • @Mutemenace
      @Mutemenace Год назад +1

      Literally I was so confused like it’s literally so much better than store bought in my opinion

  • @silversonic1
    @silversonic1 Год назад +55

    Thank you for the history lesson.
    Living near Springfield, I at least know a good cold storage option for that whole "post apocalypse" thing everyone worries about.

  • @n3wty
    @n3wty Год назад

    I don’t come across your videos often but I love when I do.
    Also when are we going on the cheese standard?

  • @wolfgangvanwyk9439
    @wolfgangvanwyk9439 Год назад +5

    Hey MatPat, I have a pretty good question. What and how far can a piece of gum be stretched? I wanna see your take on this!

  • @whiteink225
    @whiteink225 Год назад +35

    The phrase "government owned cheese" is absolutely hilarious to me

    • @blakksheep736
      @blakksheep736 Год назад +9

      I can totally imagine powerful men in sharp suits around the Oval office poring over papers and stratching thier heads as truck after truck of cheese deposit thier loads on the lawn outside the Whitehouse.

    • @whiteink225
      @whiteink225 Год назад

      @@blakksheep736 cheese reserves

    • @blakksheep736
      @blakksheep736 Год назад +1

      @@whiteink225 I'd like to have a cheese reserve.

  • @treybrzezowski3259
    @treybrzezowski3259 Год назад +46

    Upon hearing Matpat say it I must ask: Why did NOBODY TELL ME THAT MAC AND CHEESE IS ALSO A THANKSGIVING DISH??? Do you have any clear sense of how much food was wasted as a kid because my parents plated up stuff I despised, and then I just didn't eat it?

    • @gkrees9509
      @gkrees9509 Год назад +1

      How TF do you not already know that

    • @treybrzezowski3259
      @treybrzezowski3259 Год назад +9

      @@gkrees9509 It could be that it's not a thing in Southern California, or my parents and Grandparents straight up lied to me so I wouldn't demand Mac and Cheese every single Thanksgiving... you know what, saying that out loud that's probably it.

    • @zackbuildit88
      @zackbuildit88 Год назад +4

      @@treybrzezowski3259 it's mostly a southerner's or Midwesterner's thing, so I'd bet it's a thing there

    • @_Fuscous
      @_Fuscous Год назад

      Mac and cheese was never a Thanksgiving dish when I was growing up, it was always just the classics like turkey, stuffing, mashed potatoes, cranberry sauce (is it even a dish?), green bean casserole, and pumpkin pie. Though obviously being a kid I skipped the cranberry sauce and green bean casserole.

    • @zackbuildit88
      @zackbuildit88 Год назад

      @@_Fuscous where did you grow up? It's not really a time thing more a regional thing (my family has been doing Mac and cheese for 30+ years)

  • @DR-hc4vz
    @DR-hc4vz Год назад +1

    I remembering standing in line with my mother in the early 90s as a kid at focus hope. They would hand out blocks of the government cheese every month. It was one of the things we looked forward to due to awesome grilled cheese and you could use it to cover up the taste of some of the other things they gave out ( Powered eggs, spam and potted meat)

  • @tardislibrarian511
    @tardislibrarian511 Год назад

    Loved this episode! Also thought it was super ironic that halfway into the video, I got an ad for Sargento cheese

  • @dirt4fun
    @dirt4fun Год назад +84

    As someone that would eat the government cheese from the 80's... That food writer couldn't be more wrong. The cheese my grandmother used to get was really good. I really doubt the food writer ever had it.

    • @WanderingYankee
      @WanderingYankee Год назад +19

      I have, and I can confirm that it's not all that great and does not melt well. Some of it also arrives a year past the expiration date although it is still edible.

    • @lacytaylor1501
      @lacytaylor1501 Год назад +7

      They perfectly described the government cheese my grandma would get when I was little up until I moved out when I was 18 and I'm only 25. Maybe the older stuff was better or they had different supplies for different areas but it's not exactly a bad or wrong description of some government cheeses.

    • @cassandralyris4918
      @cassandralyris4918 Год назад +5

      "Government Cheese" is made from multiple different cheeses at different times. You got lucky, my dude. The crap I had to eat in the 80's I can best describe as "some kind of wax".

  • @Sam-ps8zz
    @Sam-ps8zz Год назад +57

    Great work mat! Just one thing, its pronounced des-er-et, it doesn't do the weird thing like French. Its named after what the Mormon pioneers wanted utah to be (Utah, Nevada, Idaho)

    • @Chesemiser
      @Chesemiser Год назад +6

      Actually its a term for bees but the Mormon pioneers did infact want to call all their state deseret then proceeded to name everything even vaguely based around the church deseret

    • @madelynrasmussen5693
      @madelynrasmussen5693 Год назад +1

      Came here to say this exact thing! It was fun seeing Deseret News featured in this episode though!

    • @magicalmercy
      @magicalmercy Год назад +2

      Was looking for this comment! As someone from Utah I was a bit confused by his pronunciation haha.

    • @Sam-ps8zz
      @Sam-ps8zz Год назад

      @@magicalmercy to be fair, to non deseret areas, it does look french

  • @tiagoleal5677
    @tiagoleal5677 Год назад +1

    Funny thing is that Brazil actually did that with coffee in the beginning of the 20th century, we even stocked coffee beans in NY at that time hahaha. Mainly because we produced too much coffee, and the price lowered much more than we expected, so they started to stock it and when the stocks got to big, they burned most of the coffee beans.

  • @reginah999
    @reginah999 Год назад +1

    MATT please do a video about the illusion of choice in a supermarket. I would love to see your take on it 😍

  • @clarepickavance3196
    @clarepickavance3196 Год назад +70

    My friends were interested: due to potassium, could you blow up a building with moist bananas and if so, how many?
    I don't know if it's interesting enough for a theory but we had fun conversing about it

    • @Abhi-wl5yt
      @Abhi-wl5yt Год назад +13

      I mean, in most common foods, potassium is not available as a free metal, but as a salt (typically citrate). In its salt form, potassium is not very reactive, and so I don't think it would cause any explosion. If banana's actually had free potassium, it might be deadly to even eat a banana, as the reaction between potassium and water/air would be exothermic (energy releasing), and can damage your digestive system.

    • @amberkokoro5723
      @amberkokoro5723 Год назад +1

      You should ask RedNile, if the guy can make cotton candy from cotton, he might be able to make explosive from food.

    • @aenigmaticus_ca
      @aenigmaticus_ca Год назад

      @@amberkokoro5723 I'd be surprised if NileRed hasn't done that yet

    • @youmukonpaku3168
      @youmukonpaku3168 Год назад

      Pretty sure Cody beat NileRed to it, and the potassium metal made from a banana isn't much; you'd need an awful lot if you were planning on nitrate salts for knocking over that building.

  • @xenophobicsokkorean6055
    @xenophobicsokkorean6055 Год назад +87

    Food Theory: you can technically use any sort of protein(meat) and cook it with strong acid because denaturation can also be caused by acids. I was thinking about how practical it would be

    • @Temperans
      @Temperans Год назад +11

      You are describing ceviche and similar foods. Finely ground "raw" pieces of meat/fish/shellfish cooked in lemon juice and other tasty acids.

    • @NCRVeteranRanger113
      @NCRVeteranRanger113 3 месяца назад

      Cool idea, but it’s already done. Look up ceviche.

  • @jacksonaubuchon8696
    @jacksonaubuchon8696 Год назад

    YES THE CHEESE CAVES I LOVE THIS STORY! I’ve been waiting for y’all to cover this one. :)

  • @qrow7725
    @qrow7725 Год назад

    Really liked all the info here

  • @myloriv
    @myloriv Год назад +24

    I grew up hearing about government cheese from my parents (the cheddar kind, in the 90s) and they say it's the best cheese they've ever had. I didn't realize that most people had never heard of the cheese reserve.

    • @chasejordan22
      @chasejordan22 Год назад +3

      Your talking about something these kids born after 2003 have no idea about.

    • @SteveL-KY
      @SteveL-KY Год назад +2

      My mother, from her youngest years, always preferred to befriend people older (often 20-30 years older.) Through her 'old lady' connections she often received some of the government cheese her friends couldn't eat. Some of that, she shared with me. I still remember that to be among the best tasting cheddar type cheeses I have ever eaten. It wasn't low quality 'American' cheese, but a hard cheddar that melted perfectly. I would gladly pay a premium for some more of that cheese. It was far superior to any of the cheddars offered for sale by any of the major brands of the time, and possibly even today. It was really really good cheese.

  • @captainrubicks2953
    @captainrubicks2953 Год назад +36

    I love how MatPats just giving us random facts that we can use in conversations to show how smart we are to people who think we're not

    • @Sam-ps8zz
      @Sam-ps8zz Год назад

      Actually... I'm not that smart

    • @captainrubicks2953
      @captainrubicks2953 Год назад +1

      @@Sam-ps8zz you don't have to be if you can memorize matpat

  • @mcruze7608
    @mcruze7608 Год назад +4

    Food theory idea: If you could only eat on one food for your whole life but you could choose what it would be, what food would make you live the longest?

    • @DrNo64
      @DrNo64 9 месяцев назад

      I think MatPat did an episode on this lol

  • @julestilt8613
    @julestilt8613 Год назад +1

    2:39 it's actually really funny you should mention that cheese isn't gonna be stored in an ominous looking cave with stalactites and stalagmites everywhere, but as a local I've gotta tell you to look up 'Wookey hole and cheddar gorge cheese' as they do exactly what you described😂

  • @arrowrandoman
    @arrowrandoman Год назад +117

    I like watching Food Theory. There is often a lesson that feels applicable to real life.
    I have to say that I was kind of thrown off to hear MatPat say "Deser-AY" when we pronounce it "Deser-EHT."

  • @dragwhal
    @dragwhal Год назад +11

    Forget storming area 51, we need to raid the CHEESE cave!

  • @smugboi_
    @smugboi_ Год назад +2

    My parents have actually told me about government cheese, didn't expect it to have such an interesting story lol

  • @lydiaking1694
    @lydiaking1694 Год назад +19

    Love your videos MatPat! You actually pronounce the “t” in Deseret, oddly enough. At least they do in Utah, where Deseret News is based out of. Fun fact Deseret is actually a Hebrew word for “beehive” (which explains the theme of the news website) and the name Deseret was almost the name of the state of Utah at one point. I guess this comment is evidence that I payed attention in my 6th grade state history class? Lol

  • @MoonWielder
    @MoonWielder Год назад +59

    Fun Fact: The most popular cheese recipe in the United States is macaroni and cheese.

  • @TwasTheGlitterFreeze
    @TwasTheGlitterFreeze Год назад +41

    Gotta say, that cheese cave is one of the top destinations on my bucket list

  • @blablab4116
    @blablab4116 Год назад

    That’s pretty crazy, I live in Springfield and I knew about the big cave underground it’s pretty crazy to have you talking about it

  • @alyissaaragon6943
    @alyissaaragon6943 Год назад +3

    Have you done a video on lab grown meat? It would be cool if you could walk us through the process and also taste it. The theory could be about how practical it is to make or something. I think people may want to learn about it

  • @gavinlafayette6714
    @gavinlafayette6714 Год назад +74

    I don't know, MatPat. Why DOES the government have 1.4 billion pounds of cheese??

    • @osmosisjones4912
      @osmosisjones4912 Год назад +5

      Try turning milk into cheese for the coming food crisis

    • @basilhoney
      @basilhoney Год назад +4

      To get to the other side 🐔

  • @geoffreyalva_yt5367
    @geoffreyalva_yt5367 Год назад +12

    As a Missourian, I'm so glad we're the ones with the cheese vault. Get your own cheese nerds

  • @earldalmao8550
    @earldalmao8550 Год назад +2

    Wallace be like:
    "Gromit, looks like well be doing some crime. Are you in lad."

  • @TheJStale
    @TheJStale Год назад +1

    That "when you just love cheese" pic at 11:36 is totally me xD

  • @rickysmith1991
    @rickysmith1991 Год назад +17

    I was skeptical, at first, about how many theories on food there could be to sustain a channel. But, after this video, I realized there is a cornucopia of theories!

  • @RyanCoomer
    @RyanCoomer Год назад +46

    at a buffet, i personally sneak corndogs into the buffet so others can enjoy them. I hide 6 corndogs in my jacket pockets. it then, is a joy for me to see other patrons of the establishment eat my corndogs thinking they were part of the buffe

    • @mariomaster101official
      @mariomaster101official Год назад +4

      I feel like this comment will get popular

    • @goose1260
      @goose1260 Год назад +4

      The corn dogs were in a bag or something in your pockets right?... right?

    • @deadboltzz5199
      @deadboltzz5199 Год назад

      Sounds yummy the extra grease from your hands adds flavor.

  • @xKarenWalkerx
    @xKarenWalkerx Год назад +1

    Hey MatPat, that animation of a train off the rails 3:32 ..there was just an Amtrak derailment in Missouri where like 8 people died.

  • @Im_very_hungry
    @Im_very_hungry Год назад +1

    What's next, bread caves? Tomato sauce caves? Pepperoni caves?

  • @UnprofessionalProfessor
    @UnprofessionalProfessor Год назад +5

    1:42 Now _there's_ something no one has ever said before! 😂

  • @mr_indie_fan
    @mr_indie_fan Год назад +11

    "1.4 billion pounds of cheese? Good lord gromit! We've hit the jackpot of cheeeese!" -Wallace to gromit after finding the governments cheese stash

  • @TheCrimsonCake
    @TheCrimsonCake Год назад +1

    As a cheese lover, would you happen to know what kind of cheeses they might store? Cheddar sure, but is it mainly just processed cheese or is it also containing other kinds of cheese?

  • @extracomfy7464
    @extracomfy7464 Год назад

    Hey matpat! I think I have a really good idea for a good theory episode! While at work (at work at a grocery store) I wondered what the definitive best cereal was. Which one would give me enough monosaccharides for immediate energy, but also have enough polysaccharides to keep me going until lunch? I though thus would be a really interesting topic to look into 😁😁😁

  • @Royal-breeze
    @Royal-breeze Год назад +7

    I would love to see Mattpatt do a video about the great Canadian Maple Syrup heist that happened several years back. Idk exactly what about with it. But it would definitely be a fun episode

  • @AGuyWithOneWing
    @AGuyWithOneWing Год назад +10

    I think I understand the true reason behind the absurd amount of cheese...
    The Backrooms' walls are made of cheese.

  • @signalpeakstudios
    @signalpeakstudios Год назад +1

    I never thought this would be a question that would ever be asked

  • @Dreadjaws
    @Dreadjaws Год назад +1

    10:53 - That's not how the "tip of the iceberg" metaphor works, Matt.

  • @dylanwatts9344
    @dylanwatts9344 Год назад +20

    I was working in the deli, late one night
    when I turn to behold a delicious sight
    the cheese started to move, it began to rise
    and suddenly to my surprise.
    It did the muenster mash!
    It was a deli smash!
    It caught on in a flash!
    it did the muenster mash!
    I should really brie-have... but it was so cheesy I had to

  • @Thatguy-05
    @Thatguy-05 Год назад +11

    If I had 1.4billion pounds of cheese, I would hide it using an elaborate arg with a lot or red herrings. No one would find it

  • @itzsoupYT
    @itzsoupYT Год назад +4

    Who wants to raid Area 51 when you could raid the USA cheese vault?

  • @sabretoothtiger4314
    @sabretoothtiger4314 Год назад +2

    Can we just take a moment to think about the stuff Matpat had to look up to make the food theory intro.

  • @phox1515
    @phox1515 Год назад +9

    Fun fact, there's multiple underground storage caves in MO. I have been to 2, Springfield and Carthage. Used to deliver to the Carthage caves a lot in my otr truck driver days. I have a video on my channel of me driving through them. First few times are exciting then it's meh.

    • @AwakenedAvocado
      @AwakenedAvocado Год назад

      So if youre nuked at least you'll have cheese

    • @phox1515
      @phox1515 Год назад

      @@AwakenedAvocado yep!

  • @CorgiCrusader07
    @CorgiCrusader07 Год назад +3

    Fun Fact: I worked at Springfield Underground as a security guard with Securitas from ‘18-‘19, and yes, Kraft and SU own/operate the cheese warehouse. Also that underground cave system is so large, that it can rotate up to 100 semi trucks at a time at different locations.

  • @psnmermaid925
    @psnmermaid925 Год назад

    I Live in Spfld MO! I also pass by the Spfld underground every morning when I go to work!

  • @aryn_mattell_2890
    @aryn_mattell_2890 Год назад

    I live right next to the Springfield underground, they set off pretty good fireworks every Fourth of July.

  • @arteclipse3821
    @arteclipse3821 Год назад +5

    Ya knoooow I have been watching mat pat for about 5 - 6 years now and I love how the topics just get more and more weird and I'm obsessed with weird mat you'll always be my favorite youtuber and you keep giving more reasons to love you lol

  • @jeffreyb.2817
    @jeffreyb.2817 Год назад +9

    @1:05 You showed a news article from the Deseret News, but you pronounce it Desiree.
    Deseret is pronounced deh·zr·et. It's actually a Mormon term meaning Honeybee, hence the beehive the logo, and Utah being called the Beehive State.

    • @nightraven23230
      @nightraven23230 Год назад

      Haha I noticed this! Been a Utah native my whole life lmao

  • @spacee3249
    @spacee3249 Год назад +1

    Also, at this point, I could listen to any video matpat puts out, there doesn't even have to be a plot at this point, just the format; he has me hooked

  • @fallenesther
    @fallenesther Год назад +3

    Theory idea: what is the fewest amount of chips needed for a Pringles circle

  • @SpaghettiBelly
    @SpaghettiBelly Год назад +7

    The nearby gas stations/gift shops used to sell those cheese as an attraction. I think they stopped selling the legit cave cheese back in 08-10.
    They still sell it but it's not the cave cheese anymore, I'm assuming they got in trouble so there's a company that makes home made local cheese and sells it as it.

  • @raceedits
    @raceedits Год назад +8

    It's because they're hiding it from us 3 AM cheese eaters

  • @snowycrunch
    @snowycrunch Год назад +2

    I went to Springfield Missouri once for a family reunion. Now I know why it kinda smelled like cheese

  • @lukeedwards6027
    @lukeedwards6027 Год назад

    “Those who don’t learn from the past are doomed to recheese it.” Has a better ring imo. Cool episode!

  • @jormungandrtheworldserpent8382
    @jormungandrtheworldserpent8382 Год назад +8

    this is honestly so good to see with the ridiculously low standers of quality control in media these days im glad at least someone is calling them on there bs

    • @MagnakayViolet
      @MagnakayViolet Год назад

      Hank from Sci Show made a similar video on his vlogbrothers channel about an article that sensationalized the amount of microplastic a person is eating.

  • @sokaize
    @sokaize Год назад +24

    He says cheese about 71 times, not counting things like swiss or cheesy.
    I also counted cheddar three times, I think.

  • @Crimicide
    @Crimicide Год назад

    Oh hey! That's my hometown! The Springfield Underground. Massive storage unit for several companies due to the natural refrigeration of the tunnels. The tunnels are absolutely massive. Easily the size of it's own town. You could fit a normal house between the pillars supporting the underground structure

  • @NickC876
    @NickC876 Год назад

    I been to a few of these caves through the US. Delivered food from the caves to the army in different places and also Delivered to food banks through the US and the owner of the freight was the Usda.