Shane Jones Talks Iwi Consultation Over Crown Minerals Act
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- Опубликовано: 9 июн 2024
- Sean Plunket talks to Resources Minister Shane Jones about the iwi consultation over Crown Minerals Act.
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Food, energy, fuel are required. Our country should be as self-sufficient as possible.
Impossible! Big business, the elite will make sure that even good ole' nz will be financially enslaved like the rest of the world
Now I wonder whom at fault why our country in a state of needs??maybe corrupt politicians filling their own pockets receiving bribes commissions from their foreign donors
Why even the need to consult with iwi, this is a democracy, not a tribal state. No one race needs to have more say.
Because Maori are tangata whenua who signed an agreement with the Crown, not with Pakeha, the Crown. Prior treaty rights which created your democracy. Maori did not cede sovereignty to minerals (manawa whenua, taonga). That hasnt been reconciled. No investor would invest in anything until that has been reconciled. Lots of simpletons on here.
We have a treaty with a race that is not even Indigenous, all they want to do is constantly suck more handouts from the taxpayers.
Exactly
@@tommcg7564 lol
Here a big mouth pakeha competing bullshit? BIGGEST GUTS MOUTH TO MATCH BOTH FULL OF GAS???? 6:14
Change the law so you don't have to consult then? What can be made, can be unmade.
Consultation does not mean that you have to abide by objections raised in the process. You just have to listen with an open mind before making a decision whether or not to proceed with a mining proposal.
@@scipioafricanus4328
Under ownership is why consult the owners only way to go normal processes of doing business🧑💼ain’t that right? easy pessey
But no yous just want to take it wow unbelievable just grifters swindler’s yous are
LOTR refrence 😂😂😂 God dam
@DownUnder
Yeah only european would do something like that its there mindset suit there minority foreign donors
@@scipioafricanus4328
Cause you do when ownership is involved
Like ownership of anything? Consult owner is how it works??or were we taught wrong??😑
Maoris are citizens are no different than anyone else, they don't need to be consulted this shit is suupposed to stop!!!!
@StGammon, Hello love, 🥰 I am definitely with you on this!!!! We ALL get treated EQUAL...Hope you and your family are well. Take care. Sending love 🧡and blessings 🙏to you and your family..
Illegal. Did you not here the Minister, he could be sued, are you think or something?
@@tommcg7564Are you think or something, you sound a bit thick.
@@olliemoose2020 thanks Einstein
Don't be racist please, the indigenous peoples of this island nation deserve every financial perk from the white people that settled here.
I’m a daughter and sister of oil rig/geothermal workers. Get it done Shane 💪🏻 Resilience, security and economic growth.
Go and fk yourself won’t even benefit nz in the long haul but only if regulated by iwi’s
Wow so what!
How much is Shame bribe?
In 2024 there should be no legality to consult with any party outside of Government apart from the general public at election time.
The country is run by the government not iwi.
Shane, please dont offer the greedy buggers money for the oil and other minerals. It isnt theirs, they didnt ever use it. didnt know it was there. We MUST use it for the good of ALL Kiwis.
That’s right, it’s unbelievable the entertainment these people think they have.
Maori only please, don't be racist
Yes it’s all about koha and power. Just say no
Yeah they fkd in the head have yous noticed some of these trolls🧌 affiliated in some way within the mining industry awaiting on shame jones?
@BobPackard why not??our entitlements as of ownership to Aotearoa
If you look 👀 into european history you will see greed and still expressing itself to tis day
If all Government departments need to save money, then the waitangi tribunal should follow suit.
Racist!
@@ttm2609 yes, you are.
@@ttm2609 😅
Shane Jones is definitely doing a great job of showing us the succession of NZ 1st leadership.
Except he is selling our fish to commercial fishing intersts, and they are not his to sell.
Shame clearly looking forward to his commissions bribes grifter all he is
We have 21 days of fuel in this country Sean.
So all it would take is for the one shipments to not turn up on time & we are screwed.
So what don't you see. But Marsden Point oil refinery & bitumen plant should never had left government ownership to start with.
but we keep putting total morons into government who's only concern is filling their pockets no matter the cost to the country.
Morons is an under statement.
We can make racing fuel from hemp, no need to fuck around with mining.
Need to go green
Green, is not green.
Nature worship is satanic.
If you are not created, then you have to accept that you have no foundational worth, and, at best are highly evolved smart pond scum
Read the Bible, and find out why you were made
What your purpose is
And where you are going.
This world-wide facination in indigenous paganism will end badly, as it's root is grafted into the father of lies.
E.g hydrogen burning.
Higher water emissions and lower oxygen levels.
That's following the same illogic of carbon emissions.
So plant all the ground in hemp. What about the food production that it replaces, import it from non co2 compliant countries? Food costs would be double what they are now. Trouble with greenies is they’re all about ideology, they have no commerce experience and they never think about consequences
The is this pervasive mythology the Maori are 'natural conservationists atune with the environment'. However, within the first few centuries of the arrival of their ancestors @ AD 1300, all of the major bird life (@ 26 species) had been destroyed, populations of marine mammals that were within easy reach were destroyed and the drier sides of both islands were repeatedly burned off..Natural conservationists?, not really..
Not even close, who is the main offender for getting caught taking more sea food than is permitted, you only have to see cost watchers on The box to see that.
Shhhhh, don't be racist now
It always amazes me that they couldnt even leave one breeding pair of moas. Such short sightedness. The smartest thing they ever did was ask the queen for help. She could have armed them and left them alone for a year. Theyd surely have near killed themselves out in that time.
Maybe a primitive era of survival learn from mistakes?
It's about the money!! Iwi will want some royalties as they think it's their alone.
You Pakeha are all about the money. Pretty sure Māori have protected the environment on issues like this along with Environmentalists so get real and think about it
They don't want to work for their money, they all sit around sucking more handouts from the taxpayers.
@@tommcg7564 so are you saying at the zoom meeting, there will be no discussion about money? It's all about the money!
@@tommcg7564And of course if Māori stand to get some money out of it then it’s alright to go ahead.
@@tommcg7564being caught poaching over the daily catch limit, even with rights, on thing's like Paua, Kina, Crayfish, etc. Killed off the Moa, yeah so in touch with the environment and conservation.
Once a Scab always a Scab. They just want the money without working for it.
LOL. Maori OWN the minerals and it wasnt ceded. You and your ancestors are the scabs who immigrated from the slums of Britain, please!
What's wrong with that, I wish I was brown 😂
Remember, you came from the slums of Britain - because the upper class did not want you. You were seen as a SCAB by them, and when your ancestors came here they were and (you) still are a SCAB to us.
@dave24
only scabs are people the likes of you we’re surviving just like you pal do you even know what the words original ownership means??you know where tis gonna lead to if we not careful?
Just gotta look at the truth of the matter not the lies
good agreements would go along way partnership with crown signed 1840
@@Duckz558 and in 1831 you asked for help. Do all your history not selective history,
My business is in the the rural sector and it has ground to a halt. I have 3 months money left and in a month from now if I have not turned things around I'm fucken gone!!! My mates left 10 years ago and they are living a life that is almost surreal. I am very skilled as are they, if only I did the same instead of putting my faith in this doomed country. I applaud NZF but I don't think Luxton has the balls to do what needs to be done. I think Winston is past it but Shane could lead this country in exactly the direction I agree with! I'm very impressed with Shane. I will never forgive Jacinda. I genuinely hate her. Now that I think of it she is the only person I have ever hated.
@least she had some passion toward the indigenous people came out best over handling of the pandemic💩totally against govt only need to cut a deal owners iwi’s what’s so hard about that???stead of causing drama 🎭
@@Duckz558 Iwi now have a say in what farmers do on there land. They have no sense of urgency. If you want to build a bridge it can take those bastards 3-4 months to say yes. We only have limited time to do these projects over summer. Na it a total balls up. I don't want maori to have any say what so ever in anything.
Well bugger me I didn't last a month. I'm officially gone. We are selling up and moving to Australia for good. My 2 sons are 17 and 15 and there is nothing here for them. Through some contacts I secured a Diesel apprenticeship for my son. He starts on $36.00 per hour. The GM's marketing ploy to me was your son will be like other 21 year old's in this hick town driving a jacked up 200 series towing a boat. I have never seen my son grin as much as he has all afternoon since the call. He looks like he just won the lottery. 54 years of paying taxes and struggle and I can't believe it has come down to this. Taranaki has ground to a halt. The Mt Messenger project is a joke. I heard Passco lost in court today. Good job. Lets get this place moving!
Good riddance for now
WHY is there this consultation with maori,WHO the hell are they that they get this special treatment, NOTHING in the treaty to support this consultation rubbish and councils need to be told to stop it.
I don’t believe this is based on the treaty, but based on us singing up to UNDRIP (which was supposed to be non binding) & then they commissioned He PuaPua based on that. They are now consulting “indigenous” people as part of the consulting process. That’s what it looks like.
@@MandySam13yeah, but wasn't all that nonsense, Stopped?
Exactly way over due, this country is going to the pack and things need to change.
This country is Full of racist bigotry?
Should be looking at why Radio spectrum is set aside for Maor6, seeing as radio spectrum wasn't around when Maori first arrived, let alone when the Crown came to NZ.
Time to remove that from Maori, and back to the government for auction.
Absolutely Shane !!!!
We have to get that refinery up and going and expand it to people get real we need it hate it or love it this country needs it
We have good quality coal, gas, we have crude and we have more than enough gold to pay our debt. Dig it up. Imagine the Jobs.
No, dig it up and send the profits overseas, that's how its done.
And rivers for Hydro, almost the perfect scenario.
I'm liking Shane more every day
don’t know why you feeling that way he’s only speculating without an agreement with iwi’s not confronting the source of the matter and that’s iwi’s
Speed up the process to clarify the treaty then tell Iwi where to get off, their ancestors ceded sovereignty to the crown in return for keeping their lands unless they chose to sell it and they’d be treated as equal to British citizens.
maori have to much control in new zealand
So they should, the white man and his system is not right either
@@ttm2609maorification leads to mediocrity, rampant crime, rampant corruption, and poor outcomes in general.
@schlookie what's wrong with that! Government wants to divide us! Look at Britain and europe
Good one Shane..push ahead with this..🇳🇿 we need to move forward and get our independence back...not be held back anymore 😊❤
Well done Shane. Keep up the pressure on the ideologists.
It’s official: Shane Jones is hands down my favourite MP.
Who owns New Zealand ? Answer : The people of New Zealand.
No lord Rothschild does like every other country.
Take away the Iwi Charitable tax free status! Let them pay tax as true Tangata Whenua would!
Shane has the mastery of words ...what a great Politician..we need more like him to put this country back to rights ....I do not understand the need to consult with Maori ..if you are in Government
..go ahead and get on with it....otherwise it will be all hui and no dui ...
Those natural resources belong to Maori tribes and not the british foreign aliens! Fark off pakeha back to england where you come from pakeha! Fark off and never come back you racist lying cheaters. Take your white shit back to england where you come from pakeha!!! We dont want you here!!!!! Fark off back to where you come from!!!!!!
Scrapped Pumped Hydro.
We need energy independence, everything needs electricity.
OIL is $83 U.S. a barrel, why is petrol so dear?
Because the elite own all minerals and liquids under the soil, why do you think usa always has war in middle east
Because we have limited our economy to the point where we must rely on the tax burden, Shane Jones is dead right limiting access to resource dose not make sense. Putting in more dairy farms is not going to solve anything, Our environment has suffered.
A LARGE DONATION TO THE ELITE MAORI ELITE ALWAYS WORKS
Yep, pretty much exactly right.
Still maori names for hospitals, government agencies COME ON Shane let's see some change .
Lol, all a election vote gathering technique, silly voters, mind you, the options are pretty narrow
Ecocatastrophicisation! I love it! Jones has a way with words - whatever the language he happens to be speaking.
I'm sick of words. I voted on words and am going to be shat on from great height again.
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Consultation does not mean actual taking on what maori want, listen and ignore.
Shane Jones appears to be the only sane politician left in NZ.
I support Shane in creating jobs for Kiwi's, if there is to be a trade off....please make it transparent so we can see how that will also impact people.
Just vote gathering words to the empty minded masses wanting to hear words like fitting jigsaw puzzle pieces
No requirement to talk to maori! Just do it!!
Dreamer
Many of us are sick of the gullibility Shane.
No we fully support him , you are the gullible one !stop holding NZ back!
The sooner we start exploiting our vast mineral resources the sooner this country will get out of debt and begin climbing its way back to a better economy and outlook for all…..
Wouldn’t benefit you if it got the green light anyway unless you are a foreign troll or something
Look at Norway. @@Duckz558
Somewhat very rare these days - - commonsense! Good on you Shane.
Shane Jones must remain in government - wise, strong and correct.
What i would say to the minister is that these resources are limited. NZ is a small island nation... we should be generating as much wealth from these resources as we can. Not just selling them off at the earliest opportunity in bulk. You have an entire economy to think about, and if your offering cheap products on the local market, then you will find on the global market that NZ starts to offer other high end goods from this cheap ready available resource.
Compared to the size of the population we are sitting on a massive amount of resources. Look at how big NZs EEZ is on Google. Look at how big the continental shelf is on Google maps. NZ is just the top of a vast continent. And the stuff that is on land is also massively abundant. We can't run a country by taxing people to death. We need to use the resources we are lucky enough to have access to and pay for our infrastructure and services that way. And bring home the kiwis working in these high paying mining jobs overseas to boost the country even more.
No no no, its all about the consistant flow of money to Iwi, nothing to do with Gas flow
There enough gold in the ground to pay off our debit and then some. If you burn coal at the correct temperature it burns clean. We have gas and oil. . And ever day products have petroleum in them.
Coastal windfarms! Over my dead body😂
That’s the plan.
@@rjh6037 not happening if I have anything to do with it
Why?
@@uciteljica6381 they're not exactly environmentally friendly and create more problems than they're worth including a 10 year design life and the fact that they're useless when the wind doesn't blow or it's too windy. The tasmin sea is a wild stretch of water. The whole idea is utterly idiotic and is only feasible economical via huge subsidies paid by us, the tax problem all to try and fix climate change, 99% off which is probably entirely natural and beyond our control
Nuclear power stations
You have to cut down the forest, to build houses to live in. It doesn't mean the forest cannot be regrown, or replaced with something better.
These resources are required here and now, for our growth, like trees to build houses, we need an array of rare earth materials to make dishwashers, cellphones and the machines we all use to complete our work.
The more natural wealth we can utilize, the stronger our dollar is on the world stage, meaning the more we can buy with it from other nations.
We want a strong NZD and that comes from independence from markets like oil and energy. NZ is abundant in food, as well all know, but we need to prospect for new avenues of growth and that requires profitable investments like mining. Interestingly Labour spent $50million on an old operational coal mine and its still not up to operational standards.
So i understand that under a labour lead government you don't want them anywhere near heavy machinery. $50million for a rusted dozer isn't a good deal...
It's very clear that this co governance joke has to be buried once and for all. If Maori don't like the arrangement go tell the 540 chiefs who had the power of life and death, who ceded sovereignty, your issues.
🎵 .... Money (that's what I want) ... Lots of money (that's what I want) .... Whole lot of money (that's what I want) ....Uh-huh (that's what I want) .... All I want (that's what I want)... Whoa, yeah (that's what I want) 🎵👀
Good song! Had completely forgotten that one. Mind you, that means it's going to be a bloody earworm for the next couple . . ..
What authority does Iwi have to tell the government how to behave or tell them if they can or can't do something
Prime Minister Shane Jones.
JUST DONT pay the grifter Iwi 1c..
calling iwi’s swindlers only jealous people are worth that
yes! lets boost the economy. More demand for the NZ dollar if they are buying our fuel. Do what they do in alaska, all minerals or oil pulled out of NZ results not only in a dollar bost for nz but also in alaska the population gets paid direct dividends. More fuels, more demand on our dollar, payments direct to the population. Better cost of living outcome. Perfect.
Klaus does not like your point of view, we all need to be slaves
@@ttm2609 i bend the knee to one! only when my back gets a bit sore do i bend the knee
Well we all seen want happen's when oil drilling go's wrong! IF there is a small oil spill in NZ this can kill off a big part of NZ coast. and sea food, Thats a big cost to NZ
How about .power from waste
all fat no meat!! big words don't mean crap!1
You need an OED.
Why should we bankrupt our country for the sake of the moral high ground? When China stops commissioning coal fired power plants then we can look to what we are doing. in the meantime, get into mining of our minerals and also look to how we can maximise our hydro power. The previous Government agreed to a clause in the sale of Z energy to AMPOL (Australian Coy) that Marsden point would be shut down! How is that ever in the best interests of Kiwis?
Are iwi leaders voted
4 people on the live chat today, scintillating. Discussion is dead, but, at least no covid or Gaza talk eh Sean. The Wright Family trust will be happy with you as controlled opposition, Sean.
CLEAN GREEN ENERGY STOPED IN ITS TRACKS. We have three hydro resource consents completed, (on private freehold land) that the Maori will not sign off on. Yet they gave there verbal consent all through the three year consenting process . Latest news : Another site that we were told (Quote) could never be touched for hydroelectric ,due to being a Maori historical site. Has just received full consent for Maori to build there own hydro power station , and was consented within one month of proposal being put forward. This is beyond a joke, being held to ransom by political nonsense. This is only one example of what is really going on in the consenting process. All for one and none for all is the true status quo. Should all Kiwis be aloud to grow and prosper in there own birth country , or abstain to the privileges of the few. What are your thoughts?
People are people race means nothing
I's the law Smell that iwi power Plunket It smells of victory.
Dream on.
maorification leads to mediocrity, rampant crime, rampant corruption, and poor outcomes in general.
English would help your comment!
Hey New Zealand Please Decriminalise Cannabis
No thanks.
Buds🔥
Or make it legal for doctors to prescribe it.
Why is it not a dichotomy for young people to take off to Australia? Because it's better to piss on the neighbors garden than your own.
Moron. There are enough stupid people already without creating more.
General Maori will always care more deeply for this country, as this country is all they have known for generations .so stop with the speeches.
What ever! These little #### are after the money like you and me, let's be honest
maori wiped out the Moa as well as 23 other species of birds. They also burnt off 40% of the bush. All before the Europeans came.
@schlookie yea sure, white man makes sure that everyone is a financial slave, unless there is money in saving environment, then no thanks lol. No mater how you look at our society, we're stuffed by our keepers
Don't be racist
Shane Jones he's just another jaded,cynical hack just like Sean.
Consult them on why they won't make their kids go to school, or why they won't take responsibility for their health, or why they won't honour their agreement under the treaty not to kill anyone anymore.
Personally I would have liked to hear what Mr Jones was saying about re-opening Marsden point, it seams madness that it was closed. Why would any country want to rely on another country for fuel, bitumen and gas, without fuel the country stands still.
We should do mining for NZ use only A maybe sell a small bit over sea's on top!!! Not to sell it over seas for cheep the buy it back for 3 times the price.