You're laughing but it's literally any commie / ex USSR countries. There's a saying: "There are two opinions: the teacher's and the incorrect one". Heck, if the teacher makes a dumb obvious mistake (in math for example) you cannot correct him. He is *ALWAYS* right. The most you can do is (if you like taking risks / a suicider) is play dumb and ask: "Excuse me, I don't seem to understand this part" (pointing at the part with a mistake). That's what I was taught to do. Or, if the error is insignificant, you just ignore it. Of course, now all teachers are dicks like that (but MOST are). It came as a literal SHOCK to me when I transferred to a French university that you can CORRECT a teacher without a fear of the consequences. And hear I am, still to this day afraid to ASK questions, God forbid correct the teacher💀. Talk about a difference in approach and respect towards students.
Happened to me last semester. My bio teacher literally tried to get me expelled. I never used Chat-GPT. She emailed not only my parents, but the board and even the county. Then apologized because she realized that my writing style had been consistent all year.
@@that_one_poof Thank you for the advice, after the incident that's exactly what I had to start doing. It's so weird and rude for teachers to accuse you before even checking.
Teachers literally live under or a rock or are just that stupid. It’s been well known and exposed that it is not reliable to conclude whether or not something was written using chatGPT. It false flags things all the time or doesn’t catch when something was actually written with AI. It’s an incredibly unreliable metric and it doesn’t even take much digging or testing to find that out. Some teachers are really pathetic.
@@OmegaTitanShark It doesn’t matter how much evidence you have. You won’t win. I have tried many times. They don’t care. You’d have to retain an attorney and sue. And if it’s a private institution, you’re extra screwed.
Dylan: I have never cheated... Except that one time during COVID. Teacher: It's inappropriate to interpret exclusive exceptions for yourself. "Never cheated" was not a true statement simply because you believe cheating during the pandemic doesn't count. I believe the teacher handled that amiably, as Dylan's counterintuitive declaration set the tone that he HAS cheated when he felt he could get away with it. I couldn't trust that this circumstance is inherently different. That's my understanding from the exchange, at least.
@@damiendarke1842 I refuse to believe "amiably" is in your daily vocabulary. Also, admitting you cheated 2 years ago on a test is like admitting that you were the one who did a prank on someone 5 years later, it doesn't matter anymore by that point.
My reply to that would have been "go for it, I have screenshotted these emails and will show Student Admin them and allow them to judge if my tone was off."
Your evidence would literally include you admitting to cheating in online classes, even giving them a timeline to check by saying it was when the school took measures during covid.
In the beginning I was thinking “that teacher isn’t so bad, it’s not really their fault that they mixed it up, sure it’s not good, but not really the teachers fault” and then he reported the student anyways. Yeah, he’s a really bad teacher
If I was Dylan this is what my reply would be: "Hello Mr Hayes, I completely support your decision, you can go ahead and report me to student administration. However, i will be defending my case as well and I am informing you early that if needed, I will show them this conversation and they can decide the verdict for themselves Dylan"
I've had similar experiences, "I did [insert kind thing that includes my hobby] so you can't say im not doing enough to help [traumatic experience], you are reacting to it, just ignore it and it will stop, why are you so entitled."
This reminds me of when I was in hs and out of nowhere my teacher aggressively told me to take my headphones out (I was not wearing headphones) then when I showed her she’s like “thank you” not even I’m sorry like she embarrassing me in front of the whole class 💀
My teacher thought my rough draft was: "too eloquent" and that I must have plagiarized. My MOTHER had to intervene because she wouldn't listen to me 💀 (I sidnt plagorize, I was using big words I had to google to hit the required number of pages)
The teacher: “ well I like being right so that would automatically make you wrong so your getting reported and you can’t stop me because I only care about my ego” OP: “what the heck?”
I remember when I was in school teachers hated me for correcting them and when I got accused of something for doing nothing I'd piss em off even more by proving I did nothing loll
Teacher: i see you used chatgpt, fix your essay Student: i didnt use chatgpt Teacher: no you did, fix it Student: bro check it i didnt use it Teacher: ok your right but im gonna expel you because i feel like it
"I am emberassed for being wrong and will take your attempts to defend yourself as a direct insult, and see no irony in bitching about you not taking accountability, because who needs self awareness when you have a PHD :)"
You can still have a tone through simple text. It depends on how you write things. If I wrote something like, 'Yo!!! How are you buddy!!!! Did you have a blast this summer!? :)' That comes off as informal and familiar. Alternatively I could write, 'Hello, how are you? Did you have a good summer?' That comes off as more formal, and less familiar. They both still have a tone, it's just slightly harder to interpret.
The student never provided proof that they didnt use chatgpt, all he said was “i didnt do it because im a good student” never showed evidence and the teacher didnt even use a AI detector
I have a friend and the same thing happened to him, except the college professor never actually believed him and now he has to go to the board of the school to make his case or risk being thrown out of school and losing his scholarships.
teacher couldn't admit he was wrong so he had to make up an excuse to report him
Why no replies
But had the audacity to talk about him not taking accountability smh
can’t admit he was wrong, had to make an excuse. basically, stupidity at a maximum.
Happened to me in a college class, professor got fired the week after
Bot
"You dare defend yourself? You arent allowed to prove me wrong."
Why no replies?
@Beta-mk5gtbot
You're laughing but it's literally any commie / ex USSR countries.
There's a saying: "There are two opinions: the teacher's and the incorrect one". Heck, if the teacher makes a dumb obvious mistake (in math for example) you cannot correct him. He is *ALWAYS* right. The most you can do is (if you like taking risks / a suicider) is play dumb and ask: "Excuse me, I don't seem to understand this part" (pointing at the part with a mistake). That's what I was taught to do. Or, if the error is insignificant, you just ignore it.
Of course, now all teachers are dicks like that (but MOST are).
It came as a literal SHOCK to me when I transferred to a French university that you can CORRECT a teacher without a fear of the consequences. And hear I am, still to this day afraid to ASK questions, God forbid correct the teacher💀.
Talk about a difference in approach and respect towards students.
@@Humayrahhhhhhh you cant call them a bot when you spam "Why no replies?" on literally every comment with 1 like
@@Local_Iterator it had 1k likes and no replies so I thought it was a bot
Happened to me last semester. My bio teacher literally tried to get me expelled. I never used Chat-GPT. She emailed not only my parents, but the board and even the county. Then apologized because she realized that my writing style had been consistent all year.
Screen record you writing, I do it just in case
@@that_one_poof Thank you for the advice, after the incident that's exactly what I had to start doing. It's so weird and rude for teachers to accuse you before even checking.
ugh that's so annoying... I would get salty and that's when you sue the teacher
Teachers literally live under or a rock or are just that stupid. It’s been well known and exposed that it is not reliable to conclude whether or not something was written using chatGPT. It false flags things all the time or doesn’t catch when something was actually written with AI. It’s an incredibly unreliable metric and it doesn’t even take much digging or testing to find that out. Some teachers are really pathetic.
imagine he’s been using chatgpt all year
And thats when you report the teacher
That doesn’t work on professors. They will always side with the professor.
@@miscellaneousproductions they kind of have proof
@@OmegaTitanShark It doesn’t matter how much evidence you have. You won’t win. I have tried many times. They don’t care. You’d have to retain an attorney and sue. And if it’s a private institution, you’re extra screwed.
bro it's not real
@@OmegaTitanSharka guess isn’t proof
As an English major, if someone said my writing looked like Chat GPT did it, i would low-key be super offended.
I’d take it as a compliment
@@Piasznistsounds like you're bad at writing lol. Chat GPT is not even the best ai for writing.
@@voltagestorm1787doesn’t matter if it’s the best ai, it is much better at writing than a regular joe
@@Piasznistthats actually wrong, chatgpt lacks depth in writing and even middle schoolers can make more inspired work
@@Piasznistcreative writing*
It is way better than humans for informative/non creative writes
If I was accused like that I will make a second essay using chatgpt out of spite
exactlyyy same
Then get reported to admin
That would be petty but the worst approach as then the professor actually has AI generated work from you
You gotta show them “this is ChatGPT, and this (original) is my work spot the difference. Just because my essay is good doesn’t mean I cheated.”
Pretty bad idea
"Inappropiate tone"
*that was probably the most polite way i've seen someone say they didn't cheat, is the teacher on bath salts*
probably
The inappropriate tone was him admitting to cheating
He contradicted his "better"
Its pride. They were proven to have made a stupid mistake and made up an excuse to “get back” at them.
"i have never cheated BESIDES WHEN WE WERE ONLINE FOR COVID"
bro why would you admit that 😭😭💀
I'll admit it now, just because I can.
During online classes, we still had math homework on paper, and I never did it
It was 2 years ago. It doesn't matter anymore
@@BlinkTvvice They didnt ask why you would, they asked why you would admit it.
@@BlinkTvvicegasp
I can’t believe you didn’t do it 😂
They didn’t bother to have you submit it?
@@that_one_poof nah lol
Dylan: yea I didn't cheat- Teacher: womp womp get reported for embarrassing me
Dylan: I have never cheated... Except that one time during COVID.
Teacher: It's inappropriate to interpret exclusive exceptions for yourself.
"Never cheated" was not a true statement simply because you believe cheating during the pandemic doesn't count. I believe the teacher handled that amiably, as Dylan's counterintuitive declaration set the tone that he HAS cheated when he felt he could get away with it. I couldn't trust that this circumstance is inherently different. That's my understanding from the exchange, at least.
@@damiendarke1842 I refuse to believe "amiably" is in your daily vocabulary. Also, admitting you cheated 2 years ago on a test is like admitting that you were the one who did a prank on someone 5 years later, it doesn't matter anymore by that point.
My reply to that would have been "go for it, I have screenshotted these emails and will show Student Admin them and allow them to judge if my tone was off."
Your evidence would literally include you admitting to cheating in online classes, even giving them a timeline to check by saying it was when the school took measures during covid.
Now uno reverse that teacher and report them instead :)
Bro that kid was more polite then half the people i know... What "tone" could he POSSIBLY have used that was inappropriate...
Bro doesn’t get payed enough so he tries to get pleasure of what ever little power he has over students, I think he’s trying to compensate
In the beginning I was thinking “that teacher isn’t so bad, it’s not really their fault that they mixed it up, sure it’s not good, but not really the teachers fault” and then he reported the student anyways. Yeah, he’s a really bad teacher
He isn’t he reported bc the student said he cheated on online stuff
If that was me when the teacher sent me the second email i would have gone to the office and reported him
He probably used chat gpt to write those emails lol
"Your tone is uneatable" "well Lodi FUCKIN da"
Tone? Bro, you couldn’t hear him
If I was Dylan this is what my reply would be:
"Hello Mr Hayes,
I completely support your decision, you can go ahead and report me to student administration. However, i will be defending my case as well and I am informing you early that if needed, I will show them this conversation and they can decide the verdict for themselves
Dylan"
His tone wasn’t inappropriate at all, he just didn’t buckle. This teacher all high mighty is gross.
I've had similar experiences,
"I did [insert kind thing that includes my hobby] so you can't say im not doing enough to help [traumatic experience], you are reacting to it, just ignore it and it will stop, why are you so entitled."
I remember seeing a version of this where someone put the Declaration of Independence and AI claimed it wrote 79% of this
This is why teachers need to earn respect.
Specular potato ☠️
I NOTICED TOO
"Ah, targeted harassment, admitted by email. Say goodbye to your tenured position"
“pumped up kicks starts playing”
This reminds me of when I was in hs and out of nowhere my teacher aggressively told me to take my headphones out (I was not wearing headphones) then when I showed her she’s like “thank you” not even I’m sorry like she embarrassing me in front of the whole class 💀
Nah that teacher catching hands next time
My teacher thought my rough draft was: "too eloquent" and that I must have plagiarized. My MOTHER had to intervene because she wouldn't listen to me 💀 (I sidnt plagorize, I was using big words I had to google to hit the required number of pages)
His tone was very respectful given the circumstances
You dare use my own spells against me, Potter?
The teacher: “ well I like being right so that would automatically make you wrong so your getting reported and you can’t stop me because I only care about my ego”
OP: “what the heck?”
T o n e ? Look who's refusing to take accountability for their actions now
This is why I'm happy that my school uses Google docs. The version History saves so you can see who wrote what, whenever they wrote it
Go to student admin before they do and report them for false accusations and creating a hostile learning environment. That should sort them out.
I remember when I was in school teachers hated me for correcting them and when I got accused of something for doing nothing I'd piss em off even more by proving I did nothing loll
"hey this is professor Hayes student, I'm reporting Hayes for reporting me for using chat-gpt when I didn't use chat-gpt" goes hard💀🔥🔥🔥
Tone? Through text? You know the professor read that as if they were being shouted at.
Inappropriate bro I called me teacher maiden in an email😭
Def the worst teacher yet
Bro what? Man was super respectful. What tone?
I’ll meet you at the administration building, I’ll be bringing my lawyer with me.
"your attitude in this conversation" what attitude your on texts 😂
Student: “what the fuck is chat GPT”
Bro just admitted he cheated at other points multiple times
the teacher writing this on chat-GPT:
The administration:so you were wrong?
Teacher:yes but I didn’t like it
The administration:Your fired
It's so easy to do in a private school.
I mean, we had a p.e. teacher who sexually abused dozens of pupils over the course of a few decades. So I don't know about "worst teacher ever"..
The funniest thing is he was being respectful and courteous while writing. He was obviously being careful with his words
Teacher: i see you used chatgpt, fix your essay
Student: i didnt use chatgpt
Teacher: no you did, fix it
Student: bro check it i didnt use it
Teacher: ok your right but im gonna expel you because i feel like it
I thought the teacher was good for saying he realized that he didn't cheat then he said that
"I am emberassed for being wrong and will take your attempts to defend yourself as a direct insult, and see no irony in bitching about you not taking accountability, because who needs self awareness when you have a PHD :)"
You have to be polite to me when I'm accusing you of a horrible thing that could ruin your academic career and threatening to get you expelled.
And all you have to do to get him in trouble is show the email conversation. Lol
why can teachers just never be wrong 😭
Sue the teacher for bitching about being wrong
The entire convo was fine and then the teacher messed it all up at the end LOL
I had a similar incident like this with my boss from my last job. She ended up trash talking my upbringing for absolutely reason so I just quit.
His tone they were talking through email's
"Soo you didnt do it but you talked"
one of the best cases of 'looking for a problem' I've seen in ages
Tone in email?
“your tone” it’s a TYPED CONVERSATION 💀💀💀
And the teacher had the nerve to threaten him with punishment for “doubling down” 🤣
Mf is NOT a father to go "ARE YOU TALKING BACK TO ME?!" 😭
"Wow you've grown!!" 💀
Bro literally pulled a “I don’t like your tone” to win the argument, like buddy, we way past that now
He was so calm during that conversation 😭
Excuse you, what tone he was perfectly respectable
Crazy how he could…hear the tone…through an email.
You can still have a tone through simple text. It depends on how you write things. If I wrote something like,
'Yo!!! How are you buddy!!!! Did you have a blast this summer!? :)'
That comes off as informal and familiar. Alternatively I could write,
'Hello, how are you? Did you have a good summer?'
That comes off as more formal, and less familiar. They both still have a tone, it's just slightly harder to interpret.
@@V1yXp that doesn’t make sense
@@Groovy_mainI’m pretty sure you just don’t understand what tone is
@@weaseltunneler5935 I very much do.
@@Groovy_main but you don’t understand tone isn’t limited to tone of voice?
I think that teacher needs to be reported to administration
His tone was great bro sounded so respectful
bro didnt want to lose the argument
Remember that one lady who was being wrongfully arrested, and the police later arrested her for resisting the first arrest?
Bro he was so respectful😭
not him pulling the attitude card once he's proven wrong 😭
Why do people pay thousands and thousands of dollars to deal with this kind of shit. Hell let AI do the grading at this point.
This is straight up my parents when they are wrong about something.
Sounds like there whole conversation was written by ChatGPT
Thats basically any angry adult when u have a conversation at this point
"Okay, I'm taking pictures of this conversation to prove you wrong."
The GCN Mario Circuit music in the background is fire 🔥
University bureaucracy is literal hell, imagine what that professors TA has to go through
Nah my immediate response would be “You know you live two blocks away from me and have a very flammable house right?”
How much are we betting this techer put the guy's essay into ChatGpt and just asked "did you write this?"
Nah bro was talking exactly like the teacher lol
Tf you mean inappropriate tone? That was probably one of the most polite responses from a student towards this situation
“Your tone was inappropriate” WE WERE TEXTING
bro got so pissed and prideful that he had to make shit up to report the kid
And that's when Professor Hayes gets met in the parking lot next day.
The student never provided proof that they didnt use chatgpt, all he said was “i didnt do it because im a good student” never showed evidence and the teacher didnt even use a AI detector
“I was wrong so you should be punished” like the hell
Appears infront of his house* "I am Justice"
“Sorry sir but i didnt cheat?im sorry for the confusion”
"How dare you speak like that to me”
Students are going to have to start recording themselves typing the essay
brother was maybe the most kind and understanding student in this convo, if I was on the other end the teacher would have had reason to report me
Girl that tone was not inappropriate whatsoever 💀
Bro initiated the conflict then reported his student for trying to resolve the conflict
What tone bro was totally chill about it
I have a friend and the same thing happened to him, except the college professor never actually believed him and now he has to go to the board of the school to make his case or risk being thrown out of school and losing his scholarships.
"I realized that was wrong but because I can't handle taking accountability I'm still right"- Teacher probably.