Glad to see a honest review and comparison. All tool companies need competition to keep driving forward. Flex is flexing… now if they could do away with those stupid infomercials.
I got a Flex drill - blown away. I then got the recip saw - blown away. I have to admit I'm sold. I've done Dewalt, Makita, Big Red and love Flex. I use a recip saw all the time and man the Flex makes my life so much easier. Very impressed. My only grips (minor) is that I don't like the light location for the drill. I would prefer the traditional location (it's down lower on the drill handle. Plus the drill is a bit on the heavy side but not a game changer for the power I get out of it. On the recip saw I have zero complaints. It's just a dream tool. The vibration control is incredible. That sold me completely.
FLEX is all I use for larger sized hand tools. Wish FLEX made a hole hawg/right angle drill and a few other power tools but I’m sure it’s coming soon !
I've had and used a good portion of the Flex line up for a little over a year. I'm not a contractor or anything that would require major heavy duty use, but they get used and they get used consistently. After having a mix and match set of tools for years, I wanted everything on the same platform and I've had 0 complaints with Flex. If you're a big time contractor that needs access to a wide variety of different tools, Flex may not be for you, but for most anyone else, I'd say it's a great buy.
I don't care how good they are. The range of tools are too limited to invest to at this time. As someone who can be rebuilding a engine one minute, to building a porch the next, I need variety.
You nailed it, my whole battery platform is built out as DeWalt 20/60 volt and plenty of m12 for the easier days. The power in flex tools is telling me to upgrade but I can't be running 3 different battery platforms until they have all the flex tools I need even if it means better performance
That is the exact same reason I've stuck with ryobi, the range of available tools is something most people like me that have to provide our own tools take into consideration
I think this is the most legitimate gripe against Flex. People want to hate on Flex for their marketing, which is lame, but that doesn’t change the fact that the tools they’ve put out so far are really good AND have a lifetime warranty. The primary issue is the lack of depth in their line, which means you get less value for the batteries you’ve spent a bundle on because so few of their tools are sold as bare tools.
My wife and I bought our first house 6 months ago. I was initially going to go with Milwaukee gen 3. But I chose Flex instead and I do not regret it. Like you said the turbo mode is insane.
I’m starting to see a trend. You say that I don’t like you, your evil twin don’t like you, Makita gnome don’t like you. I think everyone realizes that it’s not us, the problem lies within you! Look in the mirror Flint!
When I used to install granite walls I would need to drill holes with a 1/8 of an inch Mason drill bit and trust me. Speed did not help. 1 you could chip the face of finished granite or marble. Used slow speed in a Rigid/ Dewalt hammer drill and both got the job done. Now I use Milwaukee and all did a great job. Fast is not always better but it just depends on the job.
I think the stack ouch batteries make a ton of difference. Dewalt (90% of my tools are dewalt and i use flexvolt too) only came out with a 1.7 ah. im sure if milwaukee converts to pouch then their already amazing drills will perform alot better.
@@isaactruss5922 that or it gets too hot. Unless they fixed some things, I’ve seen many times where the turbo shuts off automatically and won’t turn back on until it cools down
I’d like to see a 3 year old Milwaukee impact go up against a 3 year old Flex impact, both used heavily by contractors . I think that’s where you would see the difference in quality/value that Milwaukee brings to the table. Im not sure if Flex has even been out 3 years though
The thing about Milwaukee is the deth of the tool lineup. Very specialized tools are available for all crafts and they are on the M12/M18 platforms. It's the biggest draw of Milwaukee.
as someone who loves milwaukee tools and has been using them for a while, the new flex tools seem to have the upper hand on build quality in some respects. Batteries feel way more solid with Flex, battery mount on tools seems better. Starting to feel like milwaukee has gotten comfortable at the top.
Competition is the best for the older companies to improve and get better. I really thought with Flex out there, Milwaukee would’ve had a game changer with Gen 4, but it seems I was wrong. Maybe Gen 4 was too soon and should’ve been released when Milwaukee got pouch cells.
No, not the end of an era, it’s only the beginning. Milwaukee will come up with something like Packout. Oh wait. Anyhow, it’s good to see the Flex on your channel. The last thing I need to do is start buying tools from another platform. The best point Clint made in this video is that competition is good for the consumer. God bless America! 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
I watched your hate on the flex video head to head. But saw this vid and gave you respect for testing it. Flex WITH their founders lifetime warranty is what had me
I have the flex quick eject impact, recip saw, 1/2 inch high torque impact, drill driver and 7 1/4 circ saw and they are all outstanding and I use the shit out of them. I also own the Milwaukee fuel gen 3 impact and hammer drill and I use DeWalt everyday with the contracting company I work for so I'm extremely familiar with the main brands (except for Makita and metabo) and i like all of them but flex is my favorite by far, as far as power and comfort they haven't been out long enough to know longevity of the tools but they are built extremely well much better then Milwaukee and DeWalt so I don't think it will be an issue I think In a few years when they get a wider variety of tools and prove there quality they will be the number 1 tool brand to beat
@@andrewk8636 I think the year they came out, they did head to head with other brands and it was extreme in comparison. There is probably a YT video of it.
Flex looks good but is there different voltage sizes so you have to have many different batteries? I have not looked at any other battery powered tools because of the many different voltages , so is flex one or many? I don't know
To me Milwaukee is the best. Does that mean Makita and Dewalt should go out of business? NO. It just means competition and all brands should step up their game and improve all their tools. As simple as that. But let’s be real. All brands have a tool we all wish our favorite brand had. It is what it is. All tools get the job done
I too love my Millys. But i gotta say, the current new Gen 4 is kinda a minor upgrade. Especially when you look at what Dewalt has kicked out this year. Dewalt really started to swing for the fences and I gotta give it to them, their doing a great job. To me, I am glad, cause it means that the companies we all love are seeing competetion, and that means we will get better tools going forward.
Also, it’s hilarious to me that over the past year Milwaukee fanboys have moved the goalpost from, “Red tools are more powerful” to “Red has a bigger line!” The need to feel like you’re on top is alive and well haha!
@@casualcarpenter as far as I'm concerned Milwaukee M18 is an outdated platform and hardly the most powerful anymore. Grinders, DeWalt. Circular saws, DeWalt. Drills, Makita, DeWalt, Flex. SDS hammers, DeWalt. Recip saws, Makita, Metabo, Flex. 3/4" impact wrench, Makita. 1" impact wrench, Ingersoll Rand. Leaf blowers, Ego. Milwaukee is hardly a performance leader nowadays, unlike before. It's fine to like Milwaukee and I have plenty of red tools but I don't like it when people pretend that Milwaukee is somehow more powerful. They're not.
I’m just putting my two cents in, I have dewalt and Milwaukee and also FLEX I know FLEX IS coming out with new power tools but FLEX does not have them as of now, Milwaukee and dewalt has been doing a good job of releasing new and innovative tools , I would like FLEX to release the plumbing electrical and all the tools that we in the trades need, that’s all I m saying
I own both the flex with turbo and a gen 3 hammer drill, I prefer the flex, and I’m pretty sure I’ve never used the turbo. One thing that flex lacks is a good brake. The Milwaukee brake locks way quicker. We use that to break hole saws off our dust bowl kits. No standard pins on those.
Trust me you don’t want a drill brake like Milwaukee, because the chuck loosens up and drops the bit. Every Milwaukee drill I’ve owned has had this problem. I use mostly Dewalt now, and only one of them (2017 model) have a hard stop break and looses the bit. The other newer Dewalt drills have a softer brake and absolutely no bit drop.
I guess your right about dropping bits, Milwaukee is the only drills I’ve ever had that issue with. But for drilling recessed lights with the holesaw kit it’s the only drill that breaks the bits loose. Otherwise after each use it has to be taken apart.
Awesome review, I do wish i could've seen them each mixing the concrete 😁 both are powerhouses. I think Milwaukee has earned their loyal following. Flex is certainly another pro level option which brings a healthy amount of competition to the table.
People are going to bash me I would not buy either one for the price to me the Ryobi h.p does just fine I beat the crap out of them and have been for years and they get they job done for the price.
I've been using my dcd999 for over 2 years now nearly every single day and has never missed a beat or let me down so I won't be switching to either of them as the flexvolt advantage is a beast especially with a 9ah flexvolt battery.
From what I see Lowe's is the only one selling them. Which means the batteries will be different every two years or so and you'll struggle to find the old ones.
I've never tried Flex but what tools do they have in their lineup and how many versions of each tool do they have? Milwaukee has multiple versions of a lot of their tools. Anything for the homegamer to the pro. Back in the day it was mostly drills that were the only cordless tool. Now it's most tools are cordless.
I want to see someone put up the new Bosch pro-factor hammer drill against the Milwaukee DeWalt Makita flex even Ridgid let's see that be an epic battle
Glad to see you taking a look at Flex. I hope you’ll try it with the 3.5 stacked lithium…supposedly no power drop off relative to the 6, just less run time.
Flex is interesting but they don't offer a single tool i want, if Milwaukee consolidated their M12 and M18 batteries they might be my single stop shop. On the flip side if dewalt came out with a solder iron and a compact rotary tool or smaller die grinder they would be my single stop shop. I use my tools around the house, on my car, and on my aircrafts and they need very compact tools that have plenty of power.
Can't wait to see the rear handle saw review! I've been wanting to buy the Milwaukee one for some time but ever since FLEX came out I'm torn between which one to get!
I’d be VERY interested to see how the Milwaukee Gen 4 does again the Flex with non-stacked batteries. That would be a true apples to apples comparison until Milwaukee comes out with their own stacked. Follow up video Clint???
I've seen other videos comparing the two with the regular batteries and it's still quite a bit more powerful than the Gen 4. The Gen 4 isn't much more powerful than the Gen 3. The Flex is a monster and so far i have not seen a drill that can match it power wise. I also own the DeWalt DCD998B Power Detect which is probably dewalts most powerful drill, especially when paired with a 6ah/8ah battery and it's not match power wise either.
I feel fortunate and cursed as a person finally ready to buy a collection of tools. Already established that I don’t want Milwaukee tools because the handle and trigger on virtually all of them are not comfortable to me, I thought I’d go 100% Dewalt. But I really love seeing the innovative things Flex has put out seemingly all at once, or at least things that answer complaints folks have with other brand tools; the in-line circular saw, jigsaws with a light switch, Stack Pack, turbo mode, way faster rollout of stacked lithium batteries, a lifetime warranty… There’s so much choice in this market and you can’t go wrong, only divergent from someone else’s choice and sometimes those folks get upset by that on behalf of a brand. It’s a defense mechanism, since investing in something (in other words: spending money) can leave one feeling vulnerable. Anyways, didn’t mean to come with psychological musings to the tool comparison, but you said you read all the comments in your recent video - thought I’d add to the pile as a person in the exact situation of looking at this current-day beast of a purchasing decision. Thanks for doing this video and I can’t wait to see the rest.
I bet you almost 100% that if they would’ve made their tools lime green with black accents they may have had a chance !!!! Bright colors makes it easy to find in the shop.. Plus they look cool
Clint...how do battery prices compare? Should I be throwing away my one year old Milwaukee power tools??? Isn't comparing a 24v to to an 18v tool like comparing an 18v to a 12v?
The flex multi tool is far superior. I've burnt out every other on multiple times. I bought my first one when they first came here hoping it would last a little longer. I still have the first one and it works great have 4 now as we use them daily. I switched to full flex and not disappointed
I want to know which one is still going after 5 years of real world work. Power is one thing but longevity is what really matters and it's hard to beat red in that department.
Wow 😲! Who would ever thought such thing was possible? Or maybe it might be two pitbull in one cage than a dethroning of a reigning king. Milwaukee will be preparing to revamp it products to reclaim it kingship. But for now Flex is reigning supreme. Flex turbo charge is ridiculously fast and powerful.
Milwaukee used to have a separate drive control collar on their drills too. It would be nice to see them bring that back as a full sized drill option alongside their gen 4. Is there any chance you could repeat the runs using each brands 12A-hr batteries? Also, i think another good test would be testing their min speeds, as an application for doing more delicate work.
So it seems like FLEX is a good product. I'm sure that in a few years they'll have more variety of tools. Getting things to market takes a while and costs a ton. FLEX has been around for 2 years-ish? Red & Yellow have a few decades head start over FLEX so they should have a better selection/ecosystem. No matter how you slice it, more competition is good and will only make all the brands do better.
Red and yellow both have a century on them, literally. Milwaukee, Dewalt and porter cable are a lot older then people think and Makita is even older then they are. These brands are all tried and true and deserve the loyalty they get. Flex needs to keep hitting the gym as far as I'm concerned.
Good review Clint . I don't really think that flex can really out any of the big3 at this point in time. Because everybody is married to there platforms. And they just don't have enough variety. But i think in a few years they may take makitas spot. If i was a top dog at flex .I would give huge deals and discounts . To get the tools in people's hands. And not just depend on Barnaby and his sham-wow boys
The Flex drill looks to impress but even including E-Go and Skill does this manufacturer have the product line to even start to compete with the Big M?
I just dumped a set of Firestorm cordless tools. Your not old enough to remember that junk. As a home owner I just invested in a set of Flex tools. I’m lucky I wasn’t already invested in anything else Red or Yellow. I feel sorry for those already heavily invested in other platforms. Thank you for this review. P.S. I have a buddy that can take care of your evil twin for a price. Just saying.
It seems like the flex was a little quicker off the line as well are the electronics more responsive? Does the Milwaukee GEN4 have a little bit of trigger lag? Showed your review to my buddy he said the flex looks like it was quicker off the line or started a half a second first. Either Way, Milwaukee is exaggerating their claims again. Which springs up one more question Milwaukee was claiming this ultimate trigger control on the impact review nobody’s talked about it on any channel is there a difference with that or is it a gimmick? And I think the turbo doesn’t play much of a roll with the auger bit because if you increase the RPMs very good chance you’re going to lose torque.
@@athannaelanderson3806 yeah The tools they make are powerful and seem well-built. Their platform is just way too small at this point for me to even consider. No finish guns no framing gun, miter saw , tablesaw no sanders, planers ect ect.. It’s gonna be a while till they become an option for me I need all of those tools for work and they don’t have them yet.
@@athannaelanderson3806 WHAT!? They’ve only been out for a couple of years and have released a handful of tools we know nothing about their longevity how good their other tools are going to be i.e making a good drill and making a good nail gun I have nothing to do with each other. I’m not trying to be mean but do you know how crazy you sound right now. Because they released a few good tools I would bail on a company that’s been around since the 1930s makes and offers every tool I need and they have a reputation for being one of the best tool companies in the industry😂 i’m not 100% sold on them they came into the market and they hit hard and that’s respectable. Honestly the difference was so minimal between flex and Milwaukee and the flex is a higher voltage tool (24v)running a stacked lithium battery. I’m not a weekend warrior I own over $20,000 in tools I do this for a living I would never make a decision based off of that. Imo as it stands right now Milwaukee ,Dewalt, and Makita are all the better tool companies.
“Today, Chervon owns several tool well-known tool brands in North America, including Flex, EGO, and Skil/Skilsaw. They also manufacture power tools for other brands.” “Kobalt power tools are made by Chervon, one of the 10 largest OEMs of power tools in the world. Chervon has been in business since 1993.” Hummm 🤔
Even though it has been said in the video and in the comments, this actually was not an even comparison. AH were not the same, rpm were not the same. Just because 1st speed or 2nd speed were used does not mean those are the same speed. There is a true comparison between these tools on youtube and the Milwaukee won out, but barely. With that, I doubt the Flex can take the abuse and use Milwaukee goes through and I would like to hear what their warranty and customer support is like.
As somebody who 8s currently retooling in flex. It's certainly a risk, given lifespan and durability is still unknown. That said, 4 months in an flex outperforms my old Milwaukee set in almost every way. Drills and impacts are faster, the Sawzall is a total animal, the circ saw can't be stopped. Batteries won't overheat. It's good a company is challenging Milwaukee, they sat at the topntoo long, competition spurs innovation
The demonstrations are all good so we can see what's what with the different companies. That said I don't think anyone is going to go out and buy a new impact driver, drill driver, hammer driver, every time something new comes out. I mean the garage will be full of technically dozens of semi brand new power tools if anyone wants to go that route.
Very informative video…this intro was the best I’ve seen too funny, but the facts show flex is faster..for now … cost goes out the window with this performance.
A couple of problems with Flex. They will never offer OPE, thus requiring the user to buy into two battery platforms. Also, their line up is kind of limited.
I 've got a couple of Flex tools,some DeWalt 20v.....mostly Milwaukee....I'll stick with the Milwaukee....if your starting out with a brand new platform.....Flex might be the best buy......who knows?🤷♂️
I think the best one is which ever one is on sale, no actually I think the flex one. But I also have some flex batteries and chargers and bandsaw‘s so it’ll be easy for me to adopt the drill one day. 🎉 Which were on sale!
What I don’t understand is why people are so freaking focused on beating another tool by .5 a second. I care about how well there built and there customer service because in the end everyone is going to warranty a battery or tool at some point if you use any brand.
@@athannaelanderson3806 I took my m18 battery 5 mins from my house to a registered Milwaukee repair place and they got me a new battery in 9 days sheesh you all sound like baby’s crying over a truck brand at this point 🤣👏🏽
@@athannaelanderson3806 you legit sound like a broken record baby man. Go cry to someone else about how u think flex is better with 1/4 the line of tools Milwaukee has 😂 and the .5 second faster drill time.
The only reason I prefer flex is because they have better saws. But the milwaukee has the best impact and drill available, IMO. But in not buying into an entire line of tools for 2 goods ones and the rest, "ok."
Good test,but why did the evil twin use a 5.0 battery on the first test? I didn't think that wasn't fair game and I know the 5.0 is not as strong as a 6.0 coming from someone who knows that platform real well? When Milwaukee makes a 6.0 amp battery? You could've just did to 6.0 or 8.0 amps just wondering. And also some of the test should have been done with a stopwatch or timer. Next time you should get your other evil cousin Vince from VGC construction. Love the channel keep up the hard work.
Milwaukee had a chance with Gen 4 to run circles around Flex, and it should’ve. Milwaukee dropped the bit/ball on the Gen 4 this time. Only time will tell how durable Flex is long term. No matter how good Flex might be, I will never purchase a Flex tool, just because of their horrible infomercials that tried to mislead people.
The gen 4 tech and line up was most likely already ready for production once flex dropped. It would've most likely been to costly to change electronics and design. Plus all these tool comparisons are retarded. Not a single person I know in skilled trades worries about a drill/impact that's 0.035 seconds faster than what they have. Everyone I know in the skilled trades is smart enough to realize it ain't necessarily about who's the fastest it's about who's can produce the best quality work but I do love the competition because it makes the tool companies offer more value for us. Not to mention all of us in the skilled trades have been using these tool brands for long enough that it's going to be real hard to get anybody to swap over permanently maybe new guys starting out but somebody like me that has been using these tools since they're change over from Ni-cad to lithium ion batteries it would be pretty difficult in fact I've been using Milwaukee since 2005 when I first started out I have no desire to change over I'm perfectly happy with what they have an offer as is.
Dang Clint... Upping the game with green screens and animation ! You could be comparing cheese graters and I would watch it. Awesome!👍🏻👍🏻 The pouch technology has issues with swelling and was the cause of the original Chevy volt fires. The cylindrical format although less dense is safer, which is why Tesla did not adopt it, in my humble opinion...
@@athannaelanderson3806 Use tools don't be a tool! So Pompous ... Clint's informative and fun channel is getting better with his use of improved graphics and techniques as his base and algorithm increases genius, no one is suggesting it's new for the industry or as tech... In reality no one cares for negative Nelly's here.... Take it for what it is entertainment and new tool information, in other words get a life.
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Glad to see a honest review and comparison. All tool companies need competition to keep driving forward. Flex is flexing… now if they could do away with those stupid infomercials.
milwaukee is getting as bad with their demo comercials... detatched marketing teams
I got a Flex drill - blown away. I then got the recip saw - blown away. I have to admit I'm sold. I've done Dewalt, Makita, Big Red and love Flex. I use a recip saw all the time and man the Flex makes my life so much easier. Very impressed.
My only grips (minor) is that I don't like the light location for the drill. I would prefer the traditional location (it's down lower on the drill handle. Plus the drill is a bit on the heavy side but not a game changer for the power I get out of it. On the recip saw I have zero complaints. It's just a dream tool. The vibration control is incredible. That sold me completely.
FLEX is all I use for larger sized hand tools. Wish FLEX made a hole hawg/right angle drill and a few other power tools but I’m sure it’s coming soon !
I've had and used a good portion of the Flex line up for a little over a year. I'm not a contractor or anything that would require major heavy duty use, but they get used and they get used consistently. After having a mix and match set of tools for years, I wanted everything on the same platform and I've had 0 complaints with Flex.
If you're a big time contractor that needs access to a wide variety of different tools, Flex may not be for you, but for most anyone else, I'd say it's a great buy.
I don't care how good they are. The range of tools are too limited to invest to at this time. As someone who can be rebuilding a engine one minute, to building a porch the next, I need variety.
You nailed it, my whole battery platform is built out as DeWalt 20/60 volt and plenty of m12 for the easier days. The power in flex tools is telling me to upgrade but I can't be running 3 different battery platforms until they have all the flex tools I need even if it means better performance
That is the exact same reason I've stuck with ryobi, the range of available tools is something most people like me that have to provide our own tools take into consideration
I think this is the most legitimate gripe against Flex. People want to hate on Flex for their marketing, which is lame, but that doesn’t change the fact that the tools they’ve put out so far are really good AND have a lifetime warranty. The primary issue is the lack of depth in their line, which means you get less value for the batteries you’ve spent a bundle on because so few of their tools are sold as bare tools.
Well obviously they can't make everything off the get go
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My wife and I bought our first house 6 months ago. I was initially going to go with Milwaukee gen 3. But I chose Flex instead and I do not regret it. Like you said the turbo mode is insane.
I’m starting to see a trend. You say that I don’t like you, your evil twin don’t like you, Makita gnome don’t like you. I think everyone realizes that it’s not us, the problem lies within you!
Look in the mirror Flint!
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Thanks for running these tests as always! Got to have some fun with it!
When I used to install granite walls I would need to drill holes with a 1/8 of an inch Mason drill bit and trust me. Speed did not help. 1 you could chip the face of finished granite or marble. Used slow speed in a Rigid/ Dewalt hammer drill and both got the job done. Now I use Milwaukee and all did a great job. Fast is not always better but it just depends on the job.
I think the stack ouch batteries make a ton of difference. Dewalt (90% of my tools are dewalt and i use flexvolt too) only came out with a 1.7 ah. im sure if milwaukee converts to pouch then their already amazing drills will perform alot better.
Milwaukee will definitely have to call theirs the M18 Ouch batteries now for sure
Ouch for the competition!
Would be good to see which of this drills will keep up in a busy day drilling, and see how long the turbo mode will stay on
Turbo mode works until you are on the last bar of battery
@@isaactruss5922 that or it gets too hot. Unless they fixed some things, I’ve seen many times where the turbo shuts off automatically and won’t turn back on until it cools down
I’d like to see a 3 year old Milwaukee impact go up against a 3 year old Flex impact, both used heavily by contractors . I think that’s where you would see the difference in quality/value that Milwaukee brings to the table. Im not sure if Flex has even been out 3 years though
They are good. Just don't have the r&d yet
Flex is upgraded Kobalt. Kobalt seems to do alright in reliability
@@athannaelanderson3806 flex has not been in business 90years you clown
100% agreed AI 4 life
Technically, Flex has been around for a long time and is known for their quality. They’re new to America and have been here for about 1 1/2 years
Another great video. Thank you for the comparison between two pro grade cordless power tools. In my opinion, you can't lose with either one!
The thing about Milwaukee is the deth of the tool lineup. Very specialized tools are available for all crafts and they are on the M12/M18 platforms. It's the biggest draw of Milwaukee.
as someone who loves milwaukee tools and has been using them for a while, the new flex tools seem to have the upper hand on build quality in some respects. Batteries feel way more solid with Flex, battery mount on tools seems better. Starting to feel like milwaukee has gotten comfortable at the top.
Great an honest review. Thank you. I will stick with Milwaukee for now, but good to see new products compete.
The same here
Competition is the best for the older companies to improve and get better.
I really thought with Flex out there, Milwaukee would’ve had a game changer with Gen 4, but it seems I was wrong. Maybe Gen 4 was too soon and should’ve been released when Milwaukee got pouch cells.
@@akaredcrossbow agreed!
I’m too deep in Milwaukee , can’t walk away now . Fuel gang 🙏🏼
No, not the end of an era, it’s only the beginning. Milwaukee will come up with something like Packout. Oh wait. Anyhow, it’s good to see the Flex on your channel. The last thing I need to do is start buying tools from another platform. The best point Clint made in this video is that competition is good for the consumer. God bless America! 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
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@@athannaelanderson3806 the ladies love the stack pack
I watched your hate on the flex video head to head. But saw this vid and gave you respect for testing it. Flex WITH their founders lifetime warranty is what had me
Yeah bro, after trying them... I was super impressed and have been using them on the site. It's the real deal
@@ToolReviewZone same here. My business partner is a DeWalt guy, I had the Milwaukee Fuels and started adding Flex into my arsenal. Good stuff man
@@0xArjay just wait until you see what I have coming to the channel 😎👊
I have the flex quick eject impact, recip saw, 1/2 inch high torque impact, drill driver and 7 1/4 circ saw and they are all outstanding and I use the shit out of them. I also own the Milwaukee fuel gen 3 impact and hammer drill and I use DeWalt everyday with the contracting company I work for so I'm extremely familiar with the main brands (except for Makita and metabo) and i like all of them but flex is my favorite by far, as far as power and comfort they haven't been out long enough to know longevity of the tools but they are built extremely well much better then Milwaukee and DeWalt so I don't think it will be an issue I think In a few years when they get a wider variety of tools and prove there quality they will be the number 1 tool brand to beat
I think Flex marketing was over the top, but if their equipment is as good as EGO, you can't ignore them.
Wait what's the marketing fiasco?
@@andrewk8636 I think the year they came out, they did head to head with other brands and it was extreme in comparison. There is probably a YT video of it.
When they add more variety I’m on board , I love my Ego equipment so Flex is in good hands
Flex looks good but is there different voltage sizes so you have to have many different batteries? I have not looked at any other battery powered tools because of the many different voltages , so is flex one or many? I don't know
To me Milwaukee is the best. Does that mean Makita and Dewalt should go out of business? NO. It just means competition and all brands should step up their game and improve all their tools. As simple as that. But let’s be real. All brands have a tool we all wish our favorite brand had. It is what it is. All tools get the job done
I too love my Millys. But i gotta say, the current new Gen 4 is kinda a minor upgrade. Especially when you look at what Dewalt has kicked out this year. Dewalt really started to swing for the fences and I gotta give it to them, their doing a great job. To me, I am glad, cause it means that the companies we all love are seeing competetion, and that means we will get better tools going forward.
I definitely get that hesitancy over Flex being a newcomer, but every tool I’ve seen and tested makes me think they are here to stay.
Also, it’s hilarious to me that over the past year Milwaukee fanboys have moved the goalpost from, “Red tools are more powerful” to “Red has a bigger line!” The need to feel like you’re on top is alive and well haha!
@@casualcarpenter I just hope flex isn't gonna have its own cheerleader fangirls too
@@casualcarpenter as far as I'm concerned Milwaukee M18 is an outdated platform and hardly the most powerful anymore. Grinders, DeWalt. Circular saws, DeWalt. Drills, Makita, DeWalt, Flex. SDS hammers, DeWalt. Recip saws, Makita, Metabo, Flex. 3/4" impact wrench, Makita. 1" impact wrench, Ingersoll Rand. Leaf blowers, Ego. Milwaukee is hardly a performance leader nowadays, unlike before. It's fine to like Milwaukee and I have plenty of red tools but I don't like it when people pretend that Milwaukee is somehow more powerful. They're not.
Thanks Tool Review 🔧 for your Demonstration and video 📹 I appreciate you 👍
The production on this is real nasss like 😎
Now being serious, Milwaukee has more tools to use on same battery platform but FLEX needs to up its game on a variety of tools
I’m just putting my two cents in, I have dewalt and Milwaukee and also FLEX I know FLEX IS coming out with new power tools but FLEX does not have them as of now, Milwaukee and dewalt has been doing a good job of releasing new and innovative tools , I would like FLEX to release the plumbing electrical and all the tools that we in the trades need, that’s all I m saying
the flex batteries one on top of eachother I don't know my phone overheats with just one battery so how would it cope in hot weather?
Dude you are getting dangerously close to being a legit cinematographer. That intro was incredible!!! Now I'll continue the video...
Once I start seeing Flex out in the real world, then maybe I’ll consider it down the line. But for now, sticking with my Milwaukee
I own both the flex with turbo and a gen 3 hammer drill, I prefer the flex, and I’m pretty sure I’ve never used the turbo. One thing that flex lacks is a good brake. The Milwaukee brake locks way quicker. We use that to break hole saws off our dust bowl kits. No standard pins on those.
Trust me you don’t want a drill brake like Milwaukee, because the chuck loosens up and drops the bit. Every Milwaukee drill I’ve owned has had this problem. I use mostly Dewalt now, and only one of them (2017 model) have a hard stop break and looses the bit. The other newer Dewalt drills have a softer brake and absolutely no bit drop.
I guess your right about dropping bits, Milwaukee is the only drills I’ve ever had that issue with. But for drilling recessed lights with the holesaw kit it’s the only drill that breaks the bits loose. Otherwise after each use it has to be taken apart.
I am waiting for them to bring some band saws out. As an electricians it is sort of needed.
Awesome review, I do wish i could've seen them each mixing the concrete 😁 both are powerhouses. I think Milwaukee has earned their loyal following. Flex is certainly another pro level option which brings a healthy amount of competition to the table.
I was impressed by them a lot. bought a set for my wife. charger with the fan inside too.
That's a good husband...
That Flex sounds like a crazy banshee with that Turbo mode!
People are going to bash me I would not buy either one for the price to me the Ryobi h.p does just fine I beat the crap out of them and have been for years and they get they job done for the price.
This. I run all HP tools and I'll just replace them with makita when I kill 2 brushless ryobis.
Wow That’s quite the 180 from six months ago. I’m glad you call them like you see them.
are these now better than dewalt's flexvolt advantage drill? I've been convinced their's was the most powerful as of recently.
I've been using my dcd999 for over 2 years now nearly every single day and has never missed a beat or let me down so I won't be switching to either of them as the flexvolt advantage is a beast especially with a 9ah flexvolt battery.
From what I see Lowe's is the only one selling them. Which means the batteries will be different every two years or so and you'll struggle to find the old ones.
I've never tried Flex but what tools do they have in their lineup and how many versions of each tool do they have? Milwaukee has multiple versions of a lot of their tools. Anything for the homegamer to the pro. Back in the day it was mostly drills that were the only cordless tool. Now it's most tools are cordless.
I want to see someone put up the new Bosch pro-factor hammer drill against the Milwaukee DeWalt Makita flex even Ridgid let's see that be an epic battle
Hell yeah. I seen a guy run it against the XGT hammer drill. That Bosch is a beast TC. Wish I owned it. Not in the Bosch platform yet
Glad to see you taking a look at Flex. I hope you’ll try it with the 3.5 stacked lithium…supposedly no power drop off relative to the 6, just less run time.
Flex is interesting but they don't offer a single tool i want, if Milwaukee consolidated their M12 and M18 batteries they might be my single stop shop. On the flip side if dewalt came out with a solder iron and a compact rotary tool or smaller die grinder they would be my single stop shop.
I use my tools around the house, on my car, and on my aircrafts and they need very compact tools that have plenty of power.
FWIW Chervon also makes the Kobalt 24v line for Lowes which are very good for the price point.
Can't wait to see the rear handle saw review! I've been wanting to buy the Milwaukee one for some time but ever since FLEX came out I'm torn between which one to get!
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I’d be VERY interested to see how the Milwaukee Gen 4 does again the Flex with non-stacked batteries. That would be a true apples to apples comparison until Milwaukee comes out with their own stacked. Follow up video Clint???
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I've seen other videos comparing the two with the regular batteries and it's still quite a bit more powerful than the Gen 4. The Gen 4 isn't much more powerful than the Gen 3. The Flex is a monster and so far i have not seen a drill that can match it power wise. I also own the DeWalt DCD998B Power Detect which is probably dewalts most powerful drill, especially when paired with a 6ah/8ah battery and it's not match power wise either.
I feel fortunate and cursed as a person finally ready to buy a collection of tools. Already established that I don’t want Milwaukee tools because the handle and trigger on virtually all of them are not comfortable to me, I thought I’d go 100% Dewalt. But I really love seeing the innovative things Flex has put out seemingly all at once, or at least things that answer complaints folks have with other brand tools; the in-line circular saw, jigsaws with a light switch, Stack Pack, turbo mode, way faster rollout of stacked lithium batteries, a lifetime warranty…
There’s so much choice in this market and you can’t go wrong, only divergent from someone else’s choice and sometimes those folks get upset by that on behalf of a brand. It’s a defense mechanism, since investing in something (in other words: spending money) can leave one feeling vulnerable.
Anyways, didn’t mean to come with psychological musings to the tool comparison, but you said you read all the comments in your recent video - thought I’d add to the pile as a person in the exact situation of looking at this current-day beast of a purchasing decision. Thanks for doing this video and I can’t wait to see the rest.
I would like comparison information between these two for: warranty, cost, how good is their customer service to support any issues? Thanks.
Which has the least vibration?
I bet you almost 100% that if they would’ve made their tools lime green with black accents they may have had a chance !!!! Bright colors makes it easy to find in the shop.. Plus they look cool
I love my Milwaukee tools and always will I just got the flex 8pc set and wow I'm in love the power and durability is amazing price is kinda heavy
Clint...how do battery prices compare? Should I be throwing away my one year old Milwaukee power tools??? Isn't comparing a 24v to to an 18v tool like comparing an 18v to a 12v?
The flex multi tool is far superior. I've burnt out every other on multiple times. I bought my first one when they first came here hoping it would last a little longer. I still have the first one and it works great have 4 now as we use them daily. I switched to full flex and not disappointed
You burnt out the brushless motor on Milwaukee’s multi-tool? Did it last more than a year?
So glad to see clinton testing the flex! Milwaukee now has equal competition. If flex moves into the m12 spot!! Be awesome
Great for Flex to compete and even top Milwaukee but guys like me who are heavily invested in Milwaukee won't switch. Great video.
The new kid in the block is trying to FLEX on the OG team. Really drilled home their point. Face it technology is definitely got way better
I want to know which one is still going after 5 years of real world work. Power is one thing but longevity is what really matters and it's hard to beat red in that department.
Wow 😲! Who would ever thought such thing was possible? Or maybe it might be two pitbull in one cage than a dethroning of a reigning king. Milwaukee will be preparing to revamp it products to reclaim it kingship. But for now Flex is reigning supreme.
Flex turbo charge is ridiculously fast and powerful.
Milwaukee used to have a separate drive control collar on their drills too. It would be nice to see them bring that back as a full sized drill option alongside their gen 4. Is there any chance you could repeat the runs using each brands 12A-hr batteries? Also, i think another good test would be testing their min speeds, as an application for doing more delicate work.
Edits were awesome! 😂😂😂
So it seems like FLEX is a good product. I'm sure that in a few years they'll have more variety of tools. Getting things to market takes a while and costs a ton. FLEX has been around for 2 years-ish? Red & Yellow have a few decades head start over FLEX so they should have a better selection/ecosystem. No matter how you slice it, more competition is good and will only make all the brands do better.
Red and yellow both have a century on them, literally. Milwaukee, Dewalt and porter cable are a lot older then people think and Makita is even older then they are. These brands are all tried and true and deserve the loyalty they get. Flex needs to keep hitting the gym as far as I'm concerned.
Darth Vader here sounding like he’s stuck in his porta John.
Please review the Flex 6.5 inline saw🙏🏼
Good review Clint . I don't really think that flex can really out any of the big3 at this point in time. Because everybody is married to there platforms. And they just don't have enough variety. But i think in a few years they may take makitas spot. If i was a top dog at flex .I would give huge deals and discounts . To get the tools in people's hands. And not just depend on Barnaby and his sham-wow boys
The Flex drill looks to impress but even including E-Go and Skill does this manufacturer have the product line to even start to compete with the Big M?
Love it bro. Nice work✊
I think he likes the turbo guys.
How about Flex vs Metabo HBT 36v?
I just dumped a set of Firestorm cordless tools. Your not old enough to remember that junk. As a home owner I just invested in a set of Flex tools. I’m lucky I wasn’t already invested in anything else Red or Yellow. I feel sorry for those already heavily invested in other platforms. Thank you for this review. P.S. I have a buddy that can take care of your evil twin for a price. Just saying.
Dude. The firestorm set was an awesome set back in the day. Total underdog. By the time you threw price in there it was better that the dewalt kit.
@@jmackinjersey1 my deepest condolences!
@@billymorris3265 thanks I’m thinking about donating them to the Smithsonian.
Hopefully when Milwaukee releases their version of pouch lithium batteries it really wakes up their tools
It seems like the flex was a little quicker off the line as well are the electronics more responsive? Does the Milwaukee GEN4 have a little bit of trigger lag? Showed your review to my buddy he said the flex looks like it was quicker off the line or started a half a second first. Either Way, Milwaukee is exaggerating their claims again. Which springs up one more question Milwaukee was claiming this ultimate trigger control on the impact review nobody’s talked about it on any channel is there a difference with that or is it a gimmick? And I think the turbo doesn’t play much of a roll with the auger bit because if you increase the RPMs very good chance you’re going to lose torque.
@@athannaelanderson3806 yeah The tools they make are powerful and seem well-built. Their platform is just way too small at this point for me to even consider. No finish guns no framing gun, miter saw , tablesaw no sanders, planers ect ect..
It’s gonna be a while till they become an option for me I need all of those tools for work and they don’t have them yet.
@@athannaelanderson3806 WHAT!? They’ve only been out for a couple of years and have released a handful of tools we know nothing about their longevity how good their other tools are going to be i.e making a good drill and making a good nail gun I have nothing to do with each other. I’m not trying to be mean but do you know how crazy you sound right now. Because they released a few good tools I would bail on a company that’s been around since the 1930s makes and offers every tool I need and they have a reputation for being one of the best tool companies in the industry😂 i’m not 100% sold on them they came into the market and they hit hard and that’s respectable. Honestly the difference was so minimal between flex and Milwaukee and the flex is a higher voltage tool (24v)running a stacked lithium battery. I’m not a weekend warrior I own over $20,000 in tools I do this for a living I would never make a decision based off of that. Imo as it stands right now Milwaukee ,Dewalt, and Makita are all the better tool companies.
I would be concerned about the longevity of the flex as I own mostly Milwaukee and some Dewalt . I guess time will only tell
Milwaukee have a contender for sure. Hope they get stack batteries sorted so people that have them can charge quicker n power. Gd job bud 👌
The Milwaukee Gen 2 OG had the drill settings on a separate dial. Can't fathom why they would have changed that.
“Today, Chervon owns several tool well-known tool brands in North America, including Flex, EGO, and Skil/Skilsaw. They also manufacture power tools for other brands.”
“Kobalt power tools are made by Chervon, one of the 10 largest OEMs of power tools in the world. Chervon has been in business since 1993.”
Hummm 🤔
Thank you for this important comparison through a very entertaining video.
Even though it has been said in the video and in the comments, this actually was not an even comparison. AH were not the same, rpm were not the same. Just because 1st speed or 2nd speed were used does not mean those are the same speed. There is a true comparison between these tools on youtube and the Milwaukee won out, but barely. With that, I doubt the Flex can take the abuse and use Milwaukee goes through and I would like to hear what their warranty and customer support is like.
No drills rpms are the same.. He used bigger ah batteries on both and the flex won.. Maybe this other review isn't factual
As somebody who 8s currently retooling in flex. It's certainly a risk, given lifespan and durability is still unknown. That said, 4 months in an flex outperforms my old Milwaukee set in almost every way. Drills and impacts are faster, the Sawzall is a total animal, the circ saw can't be stopped. Batteries won't overheat. It's good a company is challenging Milwaukee, they sat at the topntoo long, competition spurs innovation
The demonstrations are all good so we can see what's what with the different companies. That said I don't think anyone is going to go out and buy a new impact driver, drill driver, hammer driver, every time something new comes out. I mean the garage will be full of technically dozens of semi brand new power tools if anyone wants to go that route.
There's a scammer pretending to be you telling me I won something. Thought you'd like to know Clint.
Thanks for the heads up brother. Please report as spam if possible. I just put out a community post as well
Very informative video…this intro was the best I’ve seen too funny, but the facts show flex is faster..for now … cost goes out the window with this performance.
A couple of problems with Flex. They will never offer OPE, thus requiring the user to buy into two battery platforms. Also, their line up is kind of limited.
Going to see more fires with the flat cells
I 've got a couple of Flex tools,some DeWalt 20v.....mostly Milwaukee....I'll stick with the Milwaukee....if your starting out with a brand new platform.....Flex might be the best buy......who knows?🤷♂️
I think the best one is which ever one is on sale, no actually I think the flex one. But I also have some flex batteries and chargers and bandsaw‘s so it’ll be easy for me to adopt the drill one day.
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Which were on sale!
Anytime you have a turbo option; RUN!
Barnaby's flex is in the Devil's Den Clint 👹👺👹👺👹
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Flex level production quality
What I don’t understand is why people are so freaking focused on beating another tool by .5 a second. I care about how well there built and there customer service because in the end everyone is going to warranty a battery or tool at some point if you use any brand.
nice cope
@@athannaelanderson3806 I took my m18 battery 5 mins from my house to a registered Milwaukee repair place and they got me a new battery in 9 days sheesh you all sound like baby’s crying over a truck brand at this point 🤣👏🏽
@@athannaelanderson3806 you legit sound like a broken record baby man. Go cry to someone else about how u think flex is better with 1/4 the line of tools Milwaukee has 😂 and the .5 second faster drill time.
As a tool tester you can recommend the performance and power but not durability which I think takes daily use on the job site to determine
Sure I can, that's why I do a one year later 👊
The only reason I prefer flex is because they have better saws. But the milwaukee has the best impact and drill available, IMO. But in not buying into an entire line of tools for 2 goods ones and the rest, "ok."
Good test,but why did the evil twin use a 5.0 battery on the first test? I didn't think that wasn't fair game and I know the 5.0 is not as strong as a 6.0 coming from someone who knows that platform real well? When Milwaukee makes a 6.0 amp battery? You could've just did to 6.0 or 8.0 amps just wondering. And also some of the test should have been done with a stopwatch or timer. Next time you should get your other evil cousin Vince from VGC construction. Love the channel keep up the hard work.
Great video brother.
Nooooo, your not my father! 🤣🤣
Esa fue una introducción…
…realmente NASS LIKE! 😜
Thank you
Enjoy those “updated” Kobalts 🤣
Milwaukee had a chance with Gen 4 to run circles around Flex, and it should’ve.
Milwaukee dropped the bit/ball on the Gen 4 this time.
Only time will tell how durable Flex is long term.
No matter how good Flex might be, I will never purchase a Flex tool, just because of their horrible infomercials that tried to mislead people.
The gen 4 tech and line up was most likely already ready for production once flex dropped. It would've most likely been to costly to change electronics and design. Plus all these tool comparisons are retarded. Not a single person I know in skilled trades worries about a drill/impact that's 0.035 seconds faster than what they have. Everyone I know in the skilled trades is smart enough to realize it ain't necessarily about who's the fastest it's about who's can produce the best quality work but I do love the competition because it makes the tool companies offer more value for us. Not to mention all of us in the skilled trades have been using these tool brands for long enough that it's going to be real hard to get anybody to swap over permanently maybe new guys starting out but somebody like me that has been using these tools since they're change over from Ni-cad to lithium ion batteries it would be pretty difficult in fact I've been using Milwaukee since 2005 when I first started out I have no desire to change over I'm perfectly happy with what they have an offer as is.
Dang Clint... Upping the game with green screens and animation ! You could be comparing cheese graters and I would watch it. Awesome!👍🏻👍🏻
The pouch technology has issues with swelling and was the cause of the original Chevy volt fires. The cylindrical format although less dense is safer, which is why Tesla did not adopt it, in my humble opinion...
Unfortunately my 2.5ah & 5ah batteries are leaking a black liquid.
@@athannaelanderson3806 Use tools don't be a tool!
So Pompous ...
Clint's informative and fun channel is getting better with his use of improved graphics and techniques as his base and algorithm increases genius, no one is suggesting it's new for the industry or as tech...
In reality no one cares for negative Nelly's here.... Take it for what it is entertainment and new tool information, in other words get a life.
Milwaukee wins every time! 👏🏻👏🏻
Get back to me when they have the basics like a miter saw a table saw a router etc