Squaring and Tramming a DIY CNC Mill

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  • Опубликовано: 27 июл 2024
  • When you've built your own mill, you need to square it up beyond what most mill owners need to do. Here's my set of steps to ensure all axes and surfaces are sufficiently square and parallel.
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    Table of Contents:
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    0:00 - Intro
    1:19 - X perpendicular to Y
    3:36 - Align table to XY
    5:29 - Z perpendicular to XY
    8:08 - Tool parallel to Z
    9:41 - Outro
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Комментарии • 37

  • @oldfarthacks
    @oldfarthacks 8 месяцев назад

    Thanks for the video. I am having fun turning a 90 dollar Cheap Chinese X-Y table into something useful and was looking at determining the squareness of the axis and top. Your video gives much the same methods for checking as I was thinking about using. Nice little mill you have built there, well done.

  • @palliyil
    @palliyil 3 года назад +2

    I am really glad you made this video. I am building my own mill, and was wondering how to check z axis motion alignment with the spindle axis. I have not seen anyone cover that so far, and that too so elegantly. Thank you so much for this

  • @Mister_G
    @Mister_G Год назад +1

    Nice video - very clearly explained. (I'm not convinced that you're measuring much when checking the XY plane, but overall you've got the bases covered :) )

  • @Thorhian
    @Thorhian 3 года назад +1

    This is awesome! I’ll need this info for my CNC Mill lol

  • @blackbear92201
    @blackbear92201 2 года назад

    Very helpful video. thanks for posting! :D

  • @MrNeelthehulk
    @MrNeelthehulk 4 месяца назад +1

    Cool video .. very informative.. but are those chips on you lead screw when you were facing the table ... I have to call the cops on you

  • @wubiantap3083
    @wubiantap3083 3 года назад +1

    Well done dude!!! I thank so much for this informative video. ❤🌷🙌

  • @Zebra66
    @Zebra66 2 года назад

    It's best to build each axis as it's own actuator instead of mounting rails directly to the machine base. That way you can add adjustment screws for fine tuning. It's far easier and better than using shims.

  • @aleksandarjankovic6893
    @aleksandarjankovic6893 2 года назад

    Thanks You .Rails on your x axes should have lateral support(all 3 axes must have)

  • @nickp4793
    @nickp4793 3 года назад

    Great video! I have an error in my Taig Z and have it all apart... traced it to the column not being square with the base.

  • @KristopherGrove
    @KristopherGrove 3 года назад +2

    Whoa! Did your Y-axis grow or was it always that size?
    Great stuff - Thanks for the update! I needed some motivation to finish my OB Minimill mods.

    • @imnoexpertbut
      @imnoexpertbut  3 года назад +1

      Yep, always that size. Moving it to the edge of the workbench reminded me just how heavy it is!

  • @smokey1174
    @smokey1174 3 года назад

    Can you do a video of how you wired your arduino to the tb6600 off that screw block I’m doing same design but lil diffrent would really appreciate it

  • @WojtekASG
    @WojtekASG Год назад

    Great video! Where can I get this "plate with holes" you are making calibration with?

  • @smokey1174
    @smokey1174 3 года назад

    Can you please do a video of how to set up the electronics I have the same electrical layout but need help setting it up

  • @sulaiman49
    @sulaiman49 3 года назад +1

    Hi. Awesome build! Do you have any feedback re the linear rails. I am building a very similar machine and am wondering if I should go with genuine HIWIN rails or if the ebay rails do a good enough job. Thanks for your content. I have watched your vids far too many times!

    • @imnoexpertbut
      @imnoexpertbut  3 года назад +2

      The cheapo ebay rails have worked well enough for me so far. If you're going for a hobby-level machine (only run occasionally, don't need extreme accuracy) I think they're fine. Sometimes the bearings come very dirty, but you can clean them out to make them run smoother. The rails sometimes aren't perfectly straight, but you can measure it and use the mounting bolts to straighten them.

    • @sulaiman49
      @sulaiman49 3 года назад +1

      @@imnoexpertbut thanks a lot for your reply. I really appreciate it. I’m using the machine to prototype some parts from forged carbon fibre plates. Not as demanding as metal but there are other considerations like dust control using liquid. I’m looking for accuracy to be honest. I’m looking for repeatable accuracy of 0.03mm to 0.08mm (0.001” to 0.003”). I believe you have already reached tolerances close or better to this before squaring up your mill. Really interested to know what results you are getting now in terms of repeatable accuracy. Thanks again for all of the valuable content and comments.

    • @oldfarthacks
      @oldfarthacks 8 месяцев назад

      One thing that you should be able to do with your CNC software is make an error table, the software should know which way things are out of alignment and correct for that.

  • @jakesheffey9256
    @jakesheffey9256 3 года назад

    I love informative videos, what is the torque of your servos, are you able to machine steel accurately, doesn’t matter how fast it is im just curious about accuracy

    • @imnoexpertbut
      @imnoexpertbut  3 года назад +1

      I haven't tried to mill steel yet! The torque of the steppers I use is 269oz.in/1.9Nm.

  • @jjjbossjjj
    @jjjbossjjj 5 месяцев назад

    Great video! How much of alignemnt can be adjusted via the linear rails themselves? Thx!

    • @imnoexpertbut
      @imnoexpertbut  5 месяцев назад +1

      It's important for the two rails on an axis to be perfectly parallel, so after you spend a lot of time dialing that in you don't want to loosen them again.

    • @jjjbossjjj
      @jjjbossjjj 5 месяцев назад

      @@imnoexpertbut I see! Makes sense... So we set that up first and don't touch it again while we go on to tramming the other axes.

  • @wh0tube
    @wh0tube 6 месяцев назад

    90 degrees is overrated 😁👍 Imagine how much better the world would be f x, y, and z axis were at 84 degrees to each other.

  • @user-th5rr2ni6o
    @user-th5rr2ni6o 3 года назад

    And what kind of engines did you use stepper or servos, and can give a link to them or their name

    • @imnoexpertbut
      @imnoexpertbut  3 года назад

      Steppers. It's all here: ruclips.net/video/JAylwj41W8k/видео.html

  • @janbeck8269
    @janbeck8269 3 года назад +1

    Just my 2 cents, but I am not sure you are testing what you think you are testing. As an example lets take your picture at 3:40. Assume the X axis is perfect, except for the tilt. You'll never measure any tilt with the setup you are showing (moving in the x direction). You would have to move the Y axis for that. Even worse, if the tilt were around the Y axis direction, neither X nor Y movement would show in the dial indicator.
    Edit: I think I should clarify that the any tilt of the X table around the Y axis is not really a problem because it can be corrected entirely by tramming the spindle.

    • @imnoexpertbut
      @imnoexpertbut  3 года назад +1

      I know it's confusing, and it's also hard to talk about, but that picture at 3:40 is showing the X and Y axis being perfect, and the *table* is tilted relative to the X and Y axes. That's why it will show up on the indicator. If the table was perfectly aligned with the X/Y but the axis itself was tilted, then you are correct and the indicator dial wouldn't move when the axis moved. You can measure how far off a surface is from its direction of travel by putting an indicator on it and moving it along that direction of travel. You can't measure how far off an *axis* is by putting an indicator on it and moving it along the direction of travel. This old tony has a Maho CNC video where he demonstrates that. Anyway, all this stuff is surprisingly hard to think about from first principles, which is why I wanted to make a video about it.

    • @janbeck8269
      @janbeck8269 3 года назад

      @@imnoexpertbut Ah, I see what you mean now. Thanks!

  • @matic1265
    @matic1265 Год назад

    why did you use aluminium?

    • @imnoexpertbut
      @imnoexpertbut  Год назад +1

      I can buy large pieces of stock online for cheap with free shipping. 6x20 inches 1 inch thick aluminum for around $50 shipped. I couldn't find prices like that online for steel, and there aren't places around me that will sell in small quantities. I think epoxy granite would be a great option, but I haven't tried it yet.

    • @matic1265
      @matic1265 Год назад

      ​@@imnoexpertbut ah ok thanks, I thought aluminium had some other properties.

  • @playlist9389
    @playlist9389 3 года назад +1

    Great video. Sad that you are using imperial unit system.

    • @JanBinnendijk
      @JanBinnendijk 3 года назад

      There is no system in Imperial... :D