Yup I am old too... talking to new young mechanic that don't know what a dwel meter is. They plug their scan tool in and replace the part it tells them to. I think points and carburetors are so cool. Ask a new mechanic to rebuild a carburetor...
Yep the body's were set on wood blocks.May i suggest you get in touch with Paul Shinn.He got a ton of videos. He's a wizard.Good video.the ele issues can be in the harness.They dont cost to much and could be worth it.And as you know positive ground.Check the base of the steering column.Undo the bail and its another possible place to check .Good luck.Live my 28 LATER
Thank you for the comments and advice. Yup you are right need to rewire this thing. BUt thats a winter project. YUp Paul Shinn's videos are great. I thought about takeing the bail and looking there. Just sort of figured it was a dead short to the frame and it was...
Totally agree. Just can't seem to find the time. Every wire seems to have a splice and very poorly done. No telling who did it years ago. I had planned to buy a wire wireing harness and do it over the winter but never happened.
@@outdoorswithcam on a 6 VDC system, splices and connections will almost always lead to losses. Plus ... more risks of corrosion ... hence bad contacts ... hence entire electrical system acting crazy !!! lol lol Especially when the "main contact" to the chassis is only "so so" (in this case the plus). Well, sir ... summer is almost there ... maybe it's now the time to do what really needs to be done ... lol If I would live next to you, I'd come to help you out with it ... But Belgium isn't really nearby ... and my private pilot is on holidays !!! hahahaha Good luck !!!
@@outdoorswithcam Seriously, the wiring on that car is so simple it would be easy to just run every cable from scratch. You could add a fuse box to make things easier to trace in future.
The key swtich on a Model A provides a connection point between the coil and the points. With the key off, the points are not able to ground the coil so the engine will not run. I didn't realize that the coil is provided power at all times, but that's the way it is. With the key on, you should have battery voltage at both coil terminals when the points are open. You will have battery voltage at only one terminal when the points are closed. So, won't it hurt the coil to have it powered at all times? No, because there is no complete circuit until one of the coil primary terminals is grounded allowing current to flow through the primary winding. The points are what provide the circuit.
Thanks for the comment. I love talking to "modern" mechanics. Some of the young ones don't even know what points are. I recently got a buick started that had sat for 40 years. Turns out that 2 swipes with a ignition file over points and started right up. There was white oxidation on points keeping it from make contact
Model A's run best WITHOUT an air filter. Especially if the engine pans are installed. Putting on an air filter restricts air flow and may be a fire hazard if the carburetor every dumps fuel due to a sticky float valve. Save your money - buy something else.
It's a FoRd, so you have to expect troubles. hence the old cliche FORD-= "Found On Road Dead" Had a '31 i bought 20 some years ago when Hollywood Studios liquidated some warehouses and yards filled with hundreds of of old cars & trucks and vehicles used on movie sets and in films for nearly 100 years, vehicles from 1905- 1950's. My Model A Ford was from the Waltons TV, show supposedly the episode when John boy drove his 1st car, i never watched the series but had a COA that came with that POS. I still have & drive my old nemisis a ''41 Chevy 1.5t dually/ short wheelbase flatbed, Daily driver for over 50 years with over 700k miles on the clock It's on it's 3rd engine now with an upgrade to '59 235 inline 6. The rest of the driveline is all original. It's traveled the Hiways, byways & backroads in all states from Colorado west.Though these days impatient people are just in too much of a hurry to enjoy the slow scenic drive, They are always Honking, finger waving, cutting me off, passing on the right to the point of "whats the use" I live in the desert southwest so i do still have local roads i can drive around on without speeding idiots to contend with & i use it for dump runs, but being 10 years younger than the Truck itself, driving and maintaining anything is more of a pain in the butt, than a pleasure to behold.
Does your cut out on your generator turn on the test light when the key is off on your model A? Im working on my model A and the test ligjt turns on when the key is off
When the key is off the flow of electricity stops at the coil so both terminals are on then when its on,the positive side goes out cuz the electricity goes to the distributor so your switch is working properly to the coil
Thank you for the comment. I just diagnosed a 60 buik coil and points. This Car is opposite. I have such a hard time understanding this Positive ground and how stuff works on this Model A
I keep getting advice to switch to a different style. I am really good with 70s and 80S carburetors even boat carbs but this one has got me. Guess its to simple
Do yourself a favor: rewire the car back to original. Get rid of those new fuses and use ONLY ONE on the starter switch. Who knows what the previous owners have done to the wiring.
Yes it needs to be rewired. BAD! But thats a winter project when I have lots of time to do it right. All these "butt" connectors and splices. If I was going to use them I would have put heat shrink on them or liquid electrical tape. Thanks for the comment and advice. YOu are 100%
@@mikecross4350 Ask a new 20 year old to work on it. they don't know what points are. No where to hook a scantool up. The + ground really flips them out to...
Perseverance pays off! I'm about to start working on a '28 Tudor sedan, who knows what I'm going to encounter.
They are fun! New modern mechanics don't have a clue what points are...
I drove a 1970 Mustang Mach I in high school back in 1983 (I still have it), I got very familiar with points, cap and rotors.
Yup I am old too... talking to new young mechanic that don't know what a dwel meter is. They plug their scan tool in and replace the part it tells them to. I think points and carburetors are so cool. Ask a new mechanic to rebuild a carburetor...
Likely the engine computor!!! CHEERS from HERE!
I didn't think of that! Do you know where I can find it. Is it under the glove box like my other cars.
Yep the body's were set on wood blocks.May i suggest you get in touch with Paul Shinn.He got a ton of videos. He's a wizard.Good video.the ele issues can be in the harness.They dont cost to much and could be worth it.And as you know positive ground.Check the base of the steering column.Undo the bail and its another possible place to check .Good luck.Live my 28 LATER
Thank you for the comments and advice. Yup you are right need to rewire this thing. BUt thats a winter project. YUp Paul Shinn's videos are great. I thought about takeing the bail and looking there. Just sort of figured it was a dead short to the frame and it was...
Nice vid.
I really think that it's time to rewire entirely. Those connections and the state of the old wires is something asking for troubles.
Totally agree. Just can't seem to find the time. Every wire seems to have a splice and very poorly done. No telling who did it years ago. I had planned to buy a wire wireing harness and do it over the winter but never happened.
@@outdoorswithcam on a 6 VDC system, splices and connections will almost always lead to losses. Plus ... more risks of corrosion ... hence bad contacts ... hence entire electrical system acting crazy !!! lol lol
Especially when the "main contact" to the chassis is only "so so" (in this case the plus).
Well, sir ... summer is almost there ... maybe it's now the time to do what really needs to be done ... lol
If I would live next to you, I'd come to help you out with it ... But Belgium isn't really nearby ... and my private pilot is on holidays !!! hahahaha
Good luck !!!
@@outdoorswithcam Seriously, the wiring on that car is so simple it would be easy to just run every cable from scratch. You could add a fuse box to make things easier to trace in future.
If the wires are full of splices, and you want reliability, bite the bullet and install a new harness.
Thank you for the comment! Do you know where I could find a harness for a 90 year old car. You are right needs to be replaced...
@@outdoorswithcam Snyders is a good source I have used.
The key swtich on a Model A provides a connection point between the coil and the points. With the key off, the points are not able to ground the coil so the engine will not run. I didn't realize that the coil is provided power at all times, but that's the way it is. With the key on, you should have battery voltage at both coil terminals when the points are open. You will have battery voltage at only one terminal when the points are closed. So, won't it hurt the coil to have it powered at all times? No, because there is no complete circuit until one of the coil primary terminals is grounded allowing current to flow through the primary winding. The points are what provide the circuit.
Thanks for the comment. I love talking to "modern" mechanics. Some of the young ones don't even know what points are. I recently got a buick started that had sat for 40 years. Turns out that 2 swipes with a ignition file over points and started right up. There was white oxidation on points keeping it from make contact
Model A's run best WITHOUT an air filter. Especially if the engine pans are installed. Putting on an air filter restricts air flow and may be a fire hazard if the carburetor every dumps fuel due to a sticky float valve. Save your money - buy something else.
Thanks for the comment and advice! I won't put an air filter on it. Thanks again!
It's a FoRd, so you have to expect troubles. hence the old cliche FORD-= "Found On Road Dead" Had a '31 i bought 20 some years ago when Hollywood Studios liquidated some warehouses and yards filled with hundreds of of old cars & trucks and vehicles used on movie sets and in films for nearly 100 years, vehicles from 1905- 1950's. My Model A Ford was from the Waltons TV, show supposedly the episode when John boy drove his 1st car, i never watched the series but had a COA that came with that POS. I still have & drive my old nemisis a ''41 Chevy 1.5t dually/ short wheelbase flatbed, Daily driver for over 50 years with over 700k miles on the clock It's on it's 3rd engine now with an upgrade to '59 235 inline 6. The rest of the driveline is all original. It's traveled the Hiways, byways & backroads in all states from Colorado west.Though these days impatient people are just in too much of a hurry to enjoy the slow scenic drive, They are always Honking, finger waving, cutting me off, passing on the right to the point of "whats the use" I live in the desert southwest so i do still have local roads i can drive around on without speeding idiots to contend with & i use it for dump runs, but being 10 years younger than the Truck itself, driving and maintaining anything is more of a pain in the butt, than a pleasure to behold.
WOW that is so cool! 700K! You should do the Great Race with it. These new cars won't last that long...
Does your cut out on your generator turn on the test light when the key is off on your model A? Im working on my model A and the test ligjt turns on when the key is off
When the key is off the flow of electricity stops at the coil so both terminals are on then when its on,the positive side goes out cuz the electricity goes to the distributor so your switch is working properly to the coil
Thank you for the comment. I just diagnosed a 60 buik coil and points. This Car is opposite. I have such a hard time understanding this Positive ground and how stuff works on this Model A
@@outdoorswithcam lol I did too model A's are simple but complicated at the same time if you aint used to it
I have the same thing on my ford model a carburetor problems
I keep getting advice to switch to a different style. I am really good with 70s and 80S carburetors even boat carbs but this one has got me. Guess its to simple
Do yourself a favor: rewire the car back to original. Get rid of those new fuses and use ONLY ONE on the starter switch. Who knows what the previous owners have done to the wiring.
Yes it needs to be rewired. BAD! But thats a winter project when I have lots of time to do it right. All these "butt" connectors and splices. If I was going to use them I would have put heat shrink on them or liquid electrical tape. Thanks for the comment and advice. YOu are 100%
80 dollars get a new harnesy
Where do I get one. I really to replace it. Just havent had time dureing boating season
Don't seem to know much about your car
Nope it was born way before me.
@@outdoorswithcam but is so simple
@@mikecross4350 I leave the keys in it because no one could figure out how to steal it.
@@mikecross4350 Ask a new 20 year old to work on it. they don't know what points are. No where to hook a scantool up. The + ground really flips them out to...
@@outdoorswithcam a manual transmission is the new theft deterrent system