So We Got a Call... 2011 Ram Dead on the Road

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  • @davidcolesr.8628
    @davidcolesr.8628 2 года назад +394

    I think I can Speak for us all and say We appreciate you getting out the Camera and having us along. The Bingo is an Instant Classic,your sense of humor is sharp as ever. As I’ve said before you are Wise beyond your Years Wes, the Flashing Procedure just might help someone it was quite involved. I’ll catch you on the next one. Keep It Safe Out There Sir

    • @Military-Museum-LP
      @Military-Museum-LP 2 года назад +5

      Ditto!

    • @jaydubb5788
      @jaydubb5788 2 года назад +3

      Really happy you made this video

    • @Joseph-vf5um
      @Joseph-vf5um 28 дней назад

      Haaa.Think this is bad?Deal with Subarus

    • @Joseph-vf5um
      @Joseph-vf5um 28 дней назад

      Stellantis wopafied a good car and truck companie.Thats why GM said hell no to buying the when they were bankrupt from Takata air bag modules

  • @timmayer8723
    @timmayer8723 2 года назад +5

    Bucolic scene with crickets cricking, harvesters passing the front of your shop, corn fields ready for the picking. Heartland pure and simple.

  • @greencomputerfan
    @greencomputerfan 2 года назад +88

    Computer control modules arent inherently a bad idea in cars, but holy crap all this VIN locking programming account creation hoop jumping makes we want something with a carburetor.

    • @orbitalair2103
      @orbitalair2103 2 года назад +9

      Yeah, this should all be open software, we should lobby congress. like that'll happen./s

    • @frontagulus
      @frontagulus 2 года назад +6

      If someone made a new non-computer car, I'll wager it would get close to the same mileage and I'd get in line to buy one (and I never buy new cars)

    • @ShanesGettingHandy
      @ShanesGettingHandy 2 года назад +7

      @@frontagulus Unfortunately it will likely never happen, as there are more and more laws requiring certain types of computer technology on new car sales. Examples: Event Data Recorders, Airbags, Anti-lock brakes, OBD II ports, etc... All of my cars are old for a reason. If someone made a new car featuring the absolute minimum in required computer technology, I might consider that. My brake lights don't need their own computer module on the car's network, thanks.

    • @marshmower
      @marshmower 2 года назад

      @@ShanesGettingHandy they know what station and shift the assembly line worker installed the part. Take that truck and register it for sale in a non inspection state. Put a 350 in it and call it a day. Lol. 1992 dodges weren't this fickle

    • @TwoDollarGararge
      @TwoDollarGararge Год назад

      ​@@orbitalair2103open source software won't happen that means the dealerships can't have Monopoly on OEM tools usually you have to wait a few years until a Chinese clone of the OEM tool comes out

  • @t1259sw
    @t1259sw 2 года назад +54

    For those that weren't paying attention Wes gave a very good tip of the day when he cleaned the female plugs. Always, I say always blow out the cleaner, never leave the cleaner in the plug, the cleaner will eat the red clips that holds the pins in the plug body. You ask how do I know this, because I made this mistake on the PCM plugs on my wife's Jeep. Great troubleshooting as always, everybody should love a single line.

  • @josh33025
    @josh33025 2 года назад +58

    It's running fine in the beginning and it's a half hour video, this one should be a good one folks.

  • @arthurjennings5202
    @arthurjennings5202 2 года назад +5

    This truck loves you, Wes. It can't stay away from your care.

  • @htownblue11
    @htownblue11 2 года назад +167

    Zip ties and bias plies would call you a magical wizard for fixing a dodge and getting it to actually run. I just call you a hero Wes. Great troubleshooting as usual my man!

    • @tylerhunt891
      @tylerhunt891 2 года назад +23

      Zip ties would have brought out the excavator for that pile of dodge

    • @paisleyprince5280
      @paisleyprince5280 2 года назад +5

      Naw peg would have pulled the 12 valve cummins and smashed the shipping crate it came in.

    • @tylerhunt891
      @tylerhunt891 2 года назад +9

      @@paisleyprince5280 this had a hemi not a Cummins, it’s not even a shipping crate just junk 😂

    • @osrr6422
      @osrr6422 2 года назад +5

      @@tylerhunt891 No, its still a shipping crate... for the scrap its made of.

    • @79tazman
      @79tazman 2 года назад +14

      All new cars and trucks are junk I don't care what brand it is they are all a big headache that are there to cause you misery that is why I like the old cars where you can fix everything on the side of the road and the parts don't cost a arm and leg and hours of time and a expensive scanner tool to see what is wrong with it. If you think this is fun wait till the electric cars start becoming more common and wait till they meet the salt belt. You think cars have issues now just wait for the electric cars to go through a few salty winters LOL!

  • @dieselwelds8645
    @dieselwelds8645 2 года назад +5

    Absolutely love the farming ballet at the end

  • @danhunik7949
    @danhunik7949 2 года назад +26

    I remember back in the day you dried out the points, cleaned the rotor and cap contacts and you were on your way.

    • @kenuber4766
      @kenuber4766 2 года назад +3

      "Those were the days" !!...Archie Bunker

    • @erik_dk842
      @erik_dk842 2 года назад +2

      Every 5000 miles

    • @jdmccorful
      @jdmccorful 2 года назад

      Que the tune, "Those were the days my friend"!

    • @kenuber4766
      @kenuber4766 2 года назад

      @@jdmccorful" I thought they'd never end" HaHa

    • @dfross87
      @dfross87 2 года назад +1

      @@erik_dk842 I wonder if the Dodge is making it 5000 miles between visits to Wes.

  • @samcooke2742
    @samcooke2742 2 года назад +130

    Interesting insight on 2008-2012 era auto technology. Lead-free solder, a new generation of distributed control modules, and more stringent emissions regs add up to downstream reliability problems. It's way worse than the problems with previous technology introductions, like electronically controlled carburetors, because the electronic control system diagnosis required now is outside the skillset of most mechanics. Full props to Wes for fearlessly diving in to do whatever the job requires.

    • @graywolf2694
      @graywolf2694 2 года назад +9

      Now wait for today's trash

    • @dontblameme6328
      @dontblameme6328 2 года назад

      Gotta love the EPA... Keep voting for demorats if you like this kind of junk.

    • @GlamStacheessnostalgialounge
      @GlamStacheessnostalgialounge 2 года назад +5

      Yeah, working on cars, I can confidently say this era is the absolute worst. Only good thing is that they will all soon be destined for the scrapper, while the older machines will still run for decades to come.

    • @johnd5398
      @johnd5398 Год назад +3

      @@GlamStacheessnostalgialounge spoken like a true dinosaur

    • @johnd5398
      @johnd5398 Год назад

      lol you jokers commenting on mechanic videos. Make up your minds, already. Half of you bitch because "no one can fix a car without a computer anymore and people who use them aren't real mechanics"... then the next minute, tech is "outside the skillset of most mechanics".
      So which is it?

  • @johnbrossack3791
    @johnbrossack3791 2 года назад +68

    Wow, when I was a baby mechanic, putting myself through college, in the late 60's early 70's, the highest tech tools we had were tach/dwell, timing light and voltage meter. No laptops, subscriptions to data bases, except for a couple or Chilton's manuals and no programming anything. Sun diagnostic machines were just becoming popular in that time period, but the mom and pop shop I worked in, could not afford one of those. They were typically at the dealerships. Thanks Wes.

    • @mph5896
      @mph5896 2 года назад +11

      its pretty intriguing how much knowledge and tooling is required to get real in depth with modern cars. It can be done on a budget though. Diagnostics I have a $1500 bidirectional scan tool, $169 eBay laptop for programming, cardaq used j2534 I bought off eBay for $300, power probe, test light, multi meter, red brick used scope off eBay for $400. Hand tools, battery ratchets/impacts, midrise lift. Library subscription FREE of charge (via internet) for wiring diagrams. I do occasionally have to buy a 2-3 day subscription to Ford or GM for diagnostic info such as pinouts and connector location, theory of operation for like $20.I guarantee I can do about anything the local dealer can do. I drop out power trains, reflash modules, rebuild automatics. Prob $20k in tools in the garage.

    • @alfabeech
      @alfabeech 2 года назад +7

      @@mph5896 what are poor people sposed to do nowadays. i just learned today all cars gas pedals are no longer connected to the throttle watching him work on this pickup. i am stocking up on early 90's cars and trucks. old IDI diesels, corollas and festivas and stay home and off the roads in the winter. i have the last cd versions of adobe software before subscriptions started

    • @richardcline1337
      @richardcline1337 2 года назад +6

      Those days, sadly, are long gone. Today's vehicles won't last anywhere near as long as the old ones that didn't need all of the fancy gadgetry to get you back and forth to where you wanted to go. Today's future JUNK just has far too many buttons, bells and whistles on them. They are no longer cars, they are rolling game rooms made of cheap plastic.

    • @johnbrossack3791
      @johnbrossack3791 2 года назад +3

      @@richardcline1337 Agree. Even once I was out of college, I did a pretty good job of keeping our 1977 Pontiac station wagon running until 1989 when it finally gave up the ghost. We replaced it with a 1989 Pontiac Bonneville. When I got it home, I opened the hood and said "I'm done".

    • @BEANLORD6-9
      @BEANLORD6-9 2 года назад +1

      Welcome, you lived long enough to see the beginnings of the technocratic dystopia younger generations get to slog through

  • @osrr6422
    @osrr6422 2 года назад +13

    Wes is a brave soul, pulled in the parking lot and got second hand electrical issues.

  • @guymann4016
    @guymann4016 2 года назад +22

    I’ve got a 2020 2500 gasser for work with 42,500 miles. It’s already in the shop for a cam shaft and hydro lifter failure. Great trucks.

    • @jimmac1185
      @jimmac1185 2 года назад +2

      It's funny how generations change the meanings of words. I was pretty confused the first time I read your comment. A "gasser" is a drag car from the 50s to me and every car guy I know.

    • @volvo09
      @volvo09 2 года назад +2

      I would never spend my money on a dodge.

    • @jimmac1185
      @jimmac1185 2 года назад

      @@volvo09 Cool story bro. There are plenty of people that do, so your comment really doesn't matter.

    • @tomgiorgini9154
      @tomgiorgini9154 5 месяцев назад +2

      @@volvo09 they have had electrical problems since the late 60's, anybody that drove a mopar had a spare ballast resistor in the glovebox, completely agree mopar would never get a dime from me either

  • @99andrianmonk
    @99andrianmonk 2 года назад +24

    "If it worked it would have been a good idea." Words to live by. Also, Chrysler Bingo - that's a salable idea. Stellantis should supply one with each new vehicle they sell.
    Wes, your videos are priceless; humor, educational, informative, and never the same thing. Keep'm coming.

  • @southstreetbarbecue7875
    @southstreetbarbecue7875 2 года назад +88

    I really appreciate how you sometimes work from weird or uncomfortable angles all in the name of making sure we can see what you're doing. I'm sure it makes things more time consuming and difficult for a lot of your work. Thanks for all the great videos and sharing your knowledge.

  • @jeffryblackmon4846
    @jeffryblackmon4846 2 года назад +14

    I once bought the last Dodge K-car fuel injector in the country. It's a strange feeling knowing that and wondering how anyone else would find one. Many thanks for bringing us along on this job, Wes. IMHO vehicles have become too dependent on computers. It was pleasing to see harvesting taking place after the MSM has been telling us fuel costs were stopping farmers from reaping their crops and that fertilizer was not available.

  • @calholli
    @calholli 2 года назад +44

    You can get a "Tipm bypass" wire that allows you to plug into that fuel pump fuse and jump it to the "rear cigg lighter" relay, which is not used in the trucks anyway. There are several videos about it on here. Only a nine dolhair fix... Although it looks like he was already tapped into that fuse with that extra wire.

    • @alanprather8399
      @alanprather8399 2 года назад +21

      like he said he has to warranty the work. hacks a good for diy, but he can't warranty if it goes south

    • @Usmanthemecano
      @Usmanthemecano 2 года назад +9

      @@alanprather8399 the dealer uses similar "hack"...

    • @calholli
      @calholli 2 года назад +10

      @@alanprather8399 It's not really a hack if you get the purpose built wire for it. If you make your own wire out of junk you have laying around -- then yeah, that's more of a hack. He couldn't really do it on this one because the guy had already used up that "rear cigg lighter" fuse that I was talking about. That random wire that he plugs in at the end of the video, after cutting the side of the box--- he plugs into that same fuse/ relay that I was talking about. I'm not sure what that's for -- maybe a plow or something.

    • @ferrumignis
      @ferrumignis 2 года назад +8

      @@calholli _" It's not really a hack if you get the purpose built wire for it"_
      Is this a Dodge supplied modification?

    • @meadowviewlawncarellc8079
      @meadowviewlawncarellc8079 2 года назад +7

      @@calholli yeah it’s for the plow it shows key on power so the plow won’t operate with the truck off, technically if you don’t care about being able to move the plow with truck off you can just fuse that wire directly to the battery.

  • @ruralthunder8854
    @ruralthunder8854 2 года назад +13

    I’d like to see you crack open that module, just out of curiosity! Great videos!

  • @maxpain9111
    @maxpain9111 2 года назад +39

    Loved it when you said the pup wrecked a whole family lmao 😂

  • @johnglasgow83
    @johnglasgow83 2 года назад +8

    I loved the closing shot with the piano music. The true money shot was the open hood with the laptop perched on the radiator. You have the patience of a saint for the IT hoops to jump through. At that point I was thinking about how much more reliable a hoarse and buckboard would be.

    • @CrimeVid
      @CrimeVid 2 года назад

      Well, about every twenty five years the horse dies …

    • @dfross87
      @dfross87 2 года назад +1

      @@CrimeVid That's probably a better life expectancy than the Dodge. And the horse won't rust.

    • @CrimeVid
      @CrimeVid 2 года назад

      @@dfross87 That’s the point !

  • @brettrobinson1430
    @brettrobinson1430 2 года назад +33

    I have done a lot of external relays to fix this issue but it makes total sense in your situation. I like how you break down all the options and explain why you do things the way you do. Great video as always.

  • @qu54re65
    @qu54re65 2 года назад +9

    I'm glad you made a video about this. I live in a small town in Alaska of a couple thousand people off the road system; which mainly exists to murder salmon. I do electrical on boats and seem to get sucked into vehicles because I worked in automotive before I moved to AK in 2013 and there doesn't seem to be any good auto techs here. I'm definitely stealing the "recession vehicle" phrase because it does seem like I end up working on more electrical issues with 2008-2012 era trucks than anything else automotive. I loled when you said "what did we learn today...nothing" because that perfectly describes just about everything I work on. I usually fix the issue, shake my head, and walk away hoping it doesn't burn down because everything else is so bad. If the boat doesn't burn down I'll probably get a call in the next couple years asking (or subtly accusing) what I did because some unrelated 20 year old thing finally stopped working. Thanks for the humor from a fellow commiserate.

  • @johntremain8403
    @johntremain8403 2 года назад +3

    I replaced six of the seven relays in my 08 Wrangler TIPM for $20 in new relays last fall. It wasn't as hard as it was scary. In my case, the relays were not the actual issue inside the TIPM.
    I got a practice TIPM from a junkyard Liberty for $20 to practice on and have as a possible short-term back-up. So I removed it from the Jeep, got it open, and found that even with all the visible solder removed, that I couldn't free the relays with the pins still attached... So I used wire cutters to literally cut the relays apart piece by piece to leave only the pins. I then used a solder wick and a small soldering iron to get the remaining solder and pins off. A few of the high amp relays needed a heavy iron due to the ground pin being attached to the ground plane, but these came off with a heavy-tip Weller style gun. Soldering the replacement ones in was the easiest part of the job. After replacing all but one relay, I had little effect.
    It started with the TIPM randomly alarming the horn, running the wipers, and squirt juice. Usually when driving over a bump, turning a corner. Pulling over, popping the hood, and striking the TIPM always fixed that. In the winter sometimes the blower would not work for a day or two. Every once in a while, the door locks would cycle for no reason. One day the headlights stopped working for no apparent reason. I did find that removing the TIPM for 24 hours would fix the headlights. When that happened the second time, I did remove the TIPM and decided to replace all the relays as described above, but this only seemed to fix the lock issue.
    After further review over the winter, I realized that the transistors that drive the relays are the issue. Unfortunately for me, these are buried even deeper in the TIPM on the vertical board with a plastic cover that is gasket glued to the board to weather seal it... Last time I tried on the practice unit, I couldn't get the cover free with an Exacto knife, so I put the repair on hold. Now I need to get the Jeep ready for winter... So tomorrow I'm back on it and will try my heat gun to see if that releases the glue and lets me at the transistors. LOL If that works, I may have finally actually saved $500 for a refurbished unit $1,000 for a factory rebuild. There ought to be a law against placing safety related relays deep inside a plastic box soldered to a board. Did the accountants dream that up?

  • @axdesho
    @axdesho Месяц назад +1

    Thanks Wes. I love it when you close with all of the details on the years and models and their issues. You make a lot of sense thanks again.

  • @beergin64
    @beergin64 2 года назад +46

    You're no ordinary car technician but a genius who shares knowledge to all willing to learn. I am a subscriber and watch old or new episodes.

  • @chrissmith7655
    @chrissmith7655 2 года назад +2

    Hi Wes, we want to see anything you want to upload, all is good watching. Many thanks from Nr Liverpool UK.

  • @ronicard
    @ronicard 2 года назад +3

    I love the fact that you don't edit out your mistakes. Great diagnostics and honesty. Makes your channel one of the best on RUclips

  • @kendewitt5811
    @kendewitt5811 2 года назад +2

    I don't know why Chrysler in their infinite wisdom didn't include RAM in their round of TIPM recalls. I had a 2011 Grand Cherokee and currently own a 2012 Grand Cherokee. Both with the 5.7 Hemi, and both getting a recall for the fuel pump relay within the TIPM. They literally put an external relay on it as a fix, just like you were saying.
    Funny you should mention the post recession vehicles... Although I love my 2012 Grand Cherokee, it was a good thing I purchased the extended warranty when I bought it, as it was one of the few times in life an extended warranty paid for itself. Thanks for another great video!

  • @ladeseddy5994
    @ladeseddy5994 2 года назад +4

    Damn. Love the custom bends on the wipers arms! LOL.

  • @jeff8664
    @jeff8664 2 года назад +1

    Beautiful closing shot Wes … the sky the music. All of it

  • @roypearce6968
    @roypearce6968 2 года назад +6

    So much computer stuff and not easy fix for a average person. Great video Wes and more and more vehicles are going to need this computer knowledge to fix them. And it won’t be cheap to fix them.

  • @chrislarson3123
    @chrislarson3123 2 года назад +2

    What you thought wasn’t camera worthy I enjoyed lol.
    Thanks keep um coming!

  • @JesStricker
    @JesStricker 2 года назад +30

    Love your work and explanation of things Wes. Look forward to your video's weekly.

  • @andrewclement7904
    @andrewclement7904 2 года назад +19

    Thoroughly enjoyed watching this.your patience and good nature was a breath of fresh air. Good luck and God Bless.

  • @gmctech
    @gmctech 2 года назад +19

    Buddy of mine had the exact same issue. I wired in a redundant relay to bypass the PCB relay and just like Wes said, approximately 14 months later other systems began failing on the TIPM. We patched it up yet again and he traded it in 🤫

    • @Silver_o
      @Silver_o 2 года назад

      Same issue with my fuel pump relay on a C class. Those modules are called signal acquisition Module (SAM) on Mercedes.
      I had to wire an external relay for it.

  • @StopDropandLOL
    @StopDropandLOL 2 года назад +1

    Worked at a Dodge store in that bankruptcy era and you hit the nail on the head. They were total garbage. Trucks with less than 10,000 miles needing tie rods, couldn’t get parts (remember having 20 half tons on the lot stuck because we couldn’t get wiper motors), poor build quality with more than a few vehicles needing repairs during the PDI process. It was brutal.

  • @TheFlyingBusman
    @TheFlyingBusman 2 года назад +8

    Don’t you just love such modules. Similar fun and games are to be had with Euro tat. The PSA group (Peugeot, Citroen, etc) have the BCI (Body Control Interface) which can create all manner of joyous faults. I’m quite happy hauling units such as this apart and replacing relays or re-soldering boards. Bring back the good old days of simple motors with minimal electronics.

    • @thesteelrodent1796
      @thesteelrodent1796 Год назад

      every manufacturer have their own quirks, and each generation of vehicles develop faults unique to that vehicle. The latest generation of VW have pisspoor plastic quality that causes microswitches to break and short out. BMW still have random cars that develop recurring problems with sensors and injectors. Daimler (or Mercedes rather) have recurring issues with Monday cars that have one fault after the other, and generally not isolated to any specific model. And the list goes on and on. The Japanese are the only ones who seem able to make cars that are persistently either good or bad, theirs are rarely a bunch of bad mixed in with all the good ones

  • @LumpyFPV
    @LumpyFPV 2 года назад +2

    I'm glad you got the camera out my dude, a fella enjoyed it as always. Best channel on all of the RUclipss.

  • @Tom-In-Ga
    @Tom-In-Ga 2 года назад +3

    Really like the intro and exit music on this one. Didn't quite know what to expect when it started. You have a great sense of humor. Guess you need it with the kind of work you do.

  • @alan2112drums
    @alan2112drums 3 месяца назад +2

    Would've been interesting to see you open the TIPM and replace the $4 relay. Splitting the TIPM was the only difficult part. There's one very detailed YT video on this repair; definitely worth the watch and the only way I was able to do the repair myself. (Turned out not to be the issue!!).

  • @markturner8727
    @markturner8727 2 года назад +4

    I rarely comment - but gonna say you are exceptional in your troubleshooting / logic skills. Brilliant !!

  • @JimNichols
    @JimNichols 2 года назад

    I really miss the 11 million dollars in tools, the 18 hour days, the chasing of the magical electrical gremlins that dance in the wiring harnesses, the hands that will not come clean even with dawn dish soap, tide and sand scrubbing them, really I do.... and I am so glad I do not work on anything more complicated than a weed whacker now with a crescent wrench and a screwdriver as all the tools I now own. You are amazing with that sense of dry humor and acumen you have. You also have a huge repository of the sublime nonsense that creates the humor I love. Thanks man...

  • @GICK117
    @GICK117 2 года назад +3

    Computers have only just begun to take over the car industry, people. FYI.
    Wes, the fact that you decided to do this "fix" as a video makes me feel very appreciative. We viewers learn much about what to buy when we need to buy. And what not to buy. So, thank you. This video was much needed.

    • @SeanONeill13
      @SeanONeill13 2 года назад +1

      “Just”?

    • @CAPNMAC82
      @CAPNMAC82 2 года назад

      Go over to Aging Wheels and check out Bob Dunne's new Swedish electric car with Android Car operating system . . .

  • @Michael-sz4he
    @Michael-sz4he Год назад +1

    Wes- I was gonna buy a Ram 2500 next year. Seeing the utter pain you endure daily with Ram, I'm slowly but very surely walking/running from that idea. Love the videos, your work, your attention to detail and your dry sense of humour.

  • @letttttttssssss_gooooooo
    @letttttttssssss_gooooooo 2 года назад +3

    Glad you got the camera out. This may seem mondaine to you but the first time I have seen it. Good stuff. Thanks!

  • @gerhardbaumann7233
    @gerhardbaumann7233 2 года назад +1

    The piano auria is a nice touch.

  • @chrisgill7824
    @chrisgill7824 2 года назад +4

    We had a recall on the fuel pump relay on our 2014 Durango's. the fix was to install an external relay like mentioned in the video. Ordering CBP4P541AB from Dodge gets you the Relay package with instructions on how to install it. It is a hell of a lot cheaper than a TIPM replacement.

  • @highdesertworkshop
    @highdesertworkshop 2 года назад +2

    I've always thought the phrase "I like old cars because I can work on them" was stupid until I started watching your videos. now it sounds like advice from Einstine. One of the things I've learned is that my 6.0 Ford Powerstroke isn't so bad after all.

    • @alfabeech
      @alfabeech 2 года назад

      I prefer the IDI.

  • @kentmckean6795
    @kentmckean6795 2 года назад +5

    Excellent diagnostics on figuring out the TIPM failure. In all honesty, I would have hotwired in a new relay to power the fuel pump and saved the big bucks... But, if that's what the customer wanted, go ahead and spend his money!

  • @j.p.8276
    @j.p.8276 Год назад

    I love your diagnostic capabilities. That is one of my favorite things to do as an 80 year old electrician, auto mechanic, plumber, carpenter, lumberjack, small engine aficionado, handyman, all purpose human man.

  • @patrickcolahan7499
    @patrickcolahan7499 2 года назад +4

    Seeing some of the issues with brand new vehicles doesn't bring any confidence that things are improving. I'll keep my F350, 7.3lt diesel, 4x4, 4 Door, Dually with 195k miles on it. Like anything, there is the occasional maintenance and repair to be done, but that is with everything. Thanks for sharing.

    • @alfabeech
      @alfabeech 2 года назад

      I'm saving multiple early 90s cars trucks and equipment. Got a great IDI F350 I'm nursing. We're gonna look like Cuba with their vintage vehicles.. In fact we're turning into Cuba.

  • @AUTiger1964
    @AUTiger1964 2 года назад +1

    I had a ‘03 Hemi Ram 1500 and never had any electronics problem. I did have persistent check engine warning for “a small leak in the fuel vapor recovery system” Fortunately, at my age and vehicle milage I could obtain a waiver on annual emissions check. Light is still on I suppose. Truck sold a year ago out of state.
    I think your video illustrates that what makes a vehicle less expensive and easier to build for the manufacturer can ultimately bite the consumer in the rear end. It is ridiculous to need a $2000 repair to replace a $10 relay that could easily be owner installed. My truck had removable relays and none ever failed. Another good one Wes!😊

    • @kiwiingenuity1677
      @kiwiingenuity1677 2 года назад

      The name of the game in this day is planed obsolescence, then charge like a wounded bull for the parts

  • @GreyRockOne
    @GreyRockOne 2 года назад +7

    Always a good Saturday when Wes posts! better than the rest! Any vehicle (clearly) abused will give issues, this is no exception. I think KARMA from the "DODGE" had you spend money on subscription fees not really needed?

  • @jamesbt2003
    @jamesbt2003 2 года назад +2

    I am glad you did video! Never heard of a tipm before. I learned quite a bit! Loved the bingo at end! Wish you would add that a few more times!

  • @Stover1928
    @Stover1928 2 года назад +3

    Wes you have a great dry sense of humor! Love it!

  • @markrandall1456
    @markrandall1456 2 года назад

    Your wife is good on the piano. Such a soft and pleasant melody.

  • @markbowen3638
    @markbowen3638 2 года назад +5

    Wes you take diagnostics to a whole new level. These new tech controlled monsters are almost designed to fail. I like the way you won't be beat. Makes for great content but it reaffirms my liking for old pre electronic cars. Thanks for taking us along for the ride and best wishes from the UK 🇬🇧

  • @richardwarfield7386
    @richardwarfield7386 2 года назад +1

    Thanks Wes - really enjoyed the tongue in cheek Bingo game

  • @PaulButkiewicz
    @PaulButkiewicz 2 года назад +6

    interesting insight into the 2009-2012 model year issues. i never gave it any thought, but those are great points. thanks for another entertaining and informative video!

  • @glenharper3136
    @glenharper3136 2 года назад +1

    It's fun watching Wes Work!

  • @FlatThunder
    @FlatThunder 2 года назад +3

    Wow Dodge! I haven't been a fan since Dad's 1984 Daytona Turbo Z. Would have been fun to see the $10 external relay repair, but gotta give the customer what they want. Good video Wes! 👍😁

  • @donaldwilliams6821
    @donaldwilliams6821 2 года назад +3

    Great video. I am glad you filmed it I wasn't aware of the TIPM issues.

  • @lutemule
    @lutemule 2 года назад

    I go through all my notifications and I I see one from you I click it first. You are straight up man.

  • @HODGEPODGEDODGEGARAGE
    @HODGEPODGEDODGEGARAGE 2 года назад +3

    That's kinda cool they designed it to where you call pull the main fuse for a parasitic draw. Great work with the diagnosis and repairs Wes 🙂👍 *Bingo Board!!* 🤣

  • @michelecrown2426
    @michelecrown2426 2 года назад

    I’m glad you filmed this. It makes me realize when I am cussing the wiring on my 1970 VW, it’s nothing compared to all the electronic of todays vehicles.

  • @robpeabo509
    @robpeabo509 2 года назад +4

    having an easy diagnosis & repair must be good at times Wes. You deal with a some cruddy vehicles at times.

  • @alfabeech
    @alfabeech 2 года назад +1

    Turned 70 today. Self-employed, fixed my trucks and equipment most of my life. Couldn't afford, trust you guys. I fell behind in late 80's when computers came onboard. All my stuff is early 90's. I found your channel just a couple months ago. Don't know you're back story. Did you learn the basic digital stuff at dealership or school? Heard you mention college.

  • @mikeb1
    @mikeb1 2 года назад +2

    Maybe a simple diagnostics job for you Wes, but for us amateurs who are usually doing a job like that for the first and only time it's really hard to find the knowledge you need. Engineers with your diagnostic ability and understanding are rare in the automotive service industry (at least they are here in the UK). Thanks also for the nice intro and outro music!

  • @GIGABACHI
    @GIGABACHI 2 года назад

    Wes, I just wanted to mention that soft Piano at the end with the Combine and the Tractor/Trailer combo moving away out of screen was the Cat's Meow ! Good job ! 👌😎👍

  • @jannearo328
    @jannearo328 2 года назад +4

    Wes to the rescue!

  • @j.markkrzystofiak9907
    @j.markkrzystofiak9907 2 года назад

    That 3 day subscription must be for folks that hope to never work on another Chrysler again.
    just drove N-S thru the land of Lincoln yesterday. Choking on harvester dust the whole way, very apt to see that in the end of your video.

  • @stevejohnstonbaugh9171
    @stevejohnstonbaugh9171 2 года назад +7

    Great video as always Wes. I love watching you working and listening to your dialog. In this vid even your intro and outtake soundtrack was super terrific. Really sets you apart form the pack :)

    • @woodhonky3890
      @woodhonky3890 2 года назад

      One of the things that set him apart from the pack is NOT having a soundtrack! I hope that was just an intermittent problem. I couldn't even hear the combine properly at the end.😁

  • @grawey77
    @grawey77 2 года назад +1

    There is a bypass kit with a relay from Chrysler for about $100. It comes with easy to follow instructions. The kit works on all Models with this issue. This would have been a cake walk with your wiring skills Wes. Me and a mechanic buddy did it on my Minivan, it is not very technical and worked perfectly. Before I installed the kit, my van behaved like it had a dying fuel pump. I ordered a fuel pump just in case I needed it which I ended up returning.

    • @grawey77
      @grawey77 2 года назад

      It was a 2013 Dodge Caravan.

  • @fixxerautomotive4917
    @fixxerautomotive4917 2 года назад +4

    I feel like if I owned one of these trucks, I would just tap the control wire from the PCM and add my own external fuel pump relay (done right with weather pack connections), easy, cheap, and reliable. I feel like you could probably do that for any of the relays that go bad in those POS TIPM's. Just have a small relay box under the hood. You forgot "Wiped Camshaft" on your bingo card ;)

    • @TwoDollarGararge
      @TwoDollarGararge Год назад

      If that's what you want to do then a second gen RAM is the truck for you half the second gen's I see still running or running on house wiring I think these are two new to do that quite yet You're getting there though

  • @neilcowan535
    @neilcowan535 2 года назад +1

    Enjoyable as always. :) As for the TIPM...... Dear God! A relay goes and you are up for $1600!? That was never a good idea!!

  • @hotroddinwillie2364
    @hotroddinwillie2364 2 года назад +8

    Wes you are a wealth of information and experience. I bought the astro nano sockets you used in the Audi vid. I love old Mopars, but yes the Rams have been awful since my 1998 I bought new. The dealers just bide their time blowing you off after they get your money until the warranty expires. Thankfully ram owners in your locale have you to help them. Well done!

  • @smasica
    @smasica 2 года назад +2

    I have a 2008 Dodge Grand Caravan handicapped modified mini-van. It has a 10" lowered floor, in floor ramp, kneeling system. I use a power wheelchair with a floor mounted docking, lock-in system. It's kind of like a mini 5th wheel. We've had it for about 8-10 years and the only major work was replacing the AC on the rear AC system and had the EVAP leak stuff done.
    Aside from some regular tire and brake stuff, the van has been rock solid. I hope it stays that way.

    • @robertheinkel6225
      @robertheinkel6225 2 года назад

      I used to work for GMs mobility department. That dropped floor modification is definitely not cheap. Was it done by Braun?

    • @smasica
      @smasica 2 года назад

      @@robertheinkel6225 We bought the van used from Cummings Mobility in Minnesota. They have a lot of Chrysler products modified by Braun. We've had it for almost 10 years, the previous owner passed away. The only problem with the handicapped equipment was a faulty limit switch on the side door. Replaced it and no problem since.

  • @erikjoven2388
    @erikjoven2388 2 года назад +3

    ive got a 2012 jeep grand cherokee - same kind of issue - there was actually a recall on the fuel pump relay inside the TIPM for that model year. I went with the bypass option - just wired up a really good relay around the TIPM, mounted it to the side of the box there - no issues ever since (5-6 years now).

  • @gibsonn14
    @gibsonn14 2 года назад +1

    Also being a mechanic, I don't know what got into me buying my 2015 Ram 1500 with a Hemi. I love the trucks, but know the Chrysler problems. I figured I'll replace the lifters and cam myself if they go. I've done 3 manifold jobs in the year and a half I've had it, and front wheel hubs. Otherwise it's been good, but I just cross my fingers every time I get in it haha. It is a beautiful truck though, not that it matters much

  • @macks7150
    @macks7150 2 года назад +8

    Its still good to watch vids you make on things coming in the shop as always, keep up the awesome work

  • @petermac4977
    @petermac4977 2 года назад

    I take care of a fleet of Caravans, lots of tipm problems. Whenever the fuel pump relays go, I cut out and bypass the relay and install an external 4 pin relay - it does the trick to keep them going.

  • @14312KIDS
    @14312KIDS 2 года назад +4

    I am in the HVAC industry. So I hear you. Since the DOE and EPA. Have poked their nose in the industry. The reliability and longevity of the equipment has taken a nose dive. Classic example of ......We are the Government.....We are here to help.

  • @robertheinkel6225
    @robertheinkel6225 2 года назад

    My daughter’s Focus, decided to stop moving. Her local mechanic couldn’t troubleshoot it because the modules weren’t talking. It went to Ford who stated it was a bad control module, but are back ordered. Six months later, the module came in but didn’t fix the issue. Ford wanted $10K for a new tranny. She took it to Aamco, who replaced a clutch pack, and it works fine now. There are too many parts changers out there, and not enough diagnostic technicians.

  • @richarddecoster4464
    @richarddecoster4464 2 года назад +5

    This was an awesome video and I'm glad you had the camera rolling 😀 I learn to appreciate what you folks deal with on these vehicles especially with these electronics.

  • @juststeve8286
    @juststeve8286 2 года назад +1

    Glad you got the camera. I had no ideal of this possible issue.

  • @terryrogers1025
    @terryrogers1025 2 года назад +7

    Nice to see those types of issues and what takes to repair/replace components, think I will buy a 1970’s vintage what ever and rebuild to like new condition so I can work on it and not have to be a computer geek and a contortionist to work on these new vehicles or maybe even consider a horse and buggy with a bale of hay thrown in on the deal.🙄😏 Thanks for the ride along sir, lucky you got that truck back to shop.

  • @chrisknoflicek7633
    @chrisknoflicek7633 2 года назад +1

    Ram has a part number for a external relay and a diagram to wire around it. They don't like to tell you about it either

  • @LiamAndcChelsea
    @LiamAndcChelsea 2 года назад +6

    Awesome work! as usual.

  • @cordcd7
    @cordcd7 2 года назад

    Post recession vehicles are a good preview for some of the issues we're already seeing in the 2020-2022 model years.

  • @ssb031
    @ssb031 2 года назад

    Wes ... I know you think these type of videos are boring I find it really interesting - it's good to see what kind of garbage is put into today's vehicles & how to look for the problems. Keep sending them !!!!

  • @johnnybgoode6466
    @johnnybgoode6466 2 года назад +4

    Great work again Wes, your videos are getting more entertaining and informative over time. Keep up the great work. Looks like winter is coming with the harvesting of the fields.Take care. Hello from New Zealand.

  • @montwolfman
    @montwolfman Месяц назад +1

    One more reason why I will never sell my 1995 Dodge 12V valve. I'm surprised the new TIPM came equipped with fuses and relays.

  • @Jpyromarine
    @Jpyromarine 2 года назад +12

    Hey Wes, was definitely hoping you could do a tear down of the TIPM. Also I know you said the customer wanted to do it right but was curious if you’ve seen the bypass cable.

  • @johnelliott7375
    @johnelliott7375 2 года назад

    There's a great evaluation and fix as always I have learned something and enjoy your video and seeing your pup roaming around as always. Great evening and try to enjoy your new week upcoming.

  • @Mr_Reeves.
    @Mr_Reeves. 2 года назад +4

    This shipping crate has been a content producer for ya bud! Nice job and how you keep cool doing it is the question!.? Love the channel and recommend it to everyone who loves gearheads!

  • @thomask4836
    @thomask4836 2 года назад +2

    Wes,
    You are an inspiration and as usual, I enjoyed this video. I just got a Ford Explorer Police Interceptor this spring and it's a 2013. I left auto mechanics in 1978 for locomotives but I am returning to autos as a hobby in retirement. I am going to scratch the surface of Forscan in the near future and just got my handy dandy top-of-the-line Forscan USB to OBD2 connector for my laptop. . . . . I have never used anything other than a timing light, dwell meter, multi meter (analog) or a test light on a car. I've connected a ton of laptops to locomotives but I never thought I'd see the day when an automobile was chocked full of chips too. Locomotives, yes. Cars, no. Wish me luck!
    Yours Truly,
    Tom K the Fossil

    • @alfabeech
      @alfabeech 2 года назад

      I've got a no start 96 F350 Powerstroke. I just bought Forscan. It's so different than the 92 F350 IDI I have. I am learning tons on RUclips. Learning this stuff just like you. I'm turning 70. It's Wes' video about the leaky oil pan the introduced me to this channel. I didn't know mine leaked.

  • @97marqedman
    @97marqedman 2 года назад +25

    I’ve repaired/resoldered so many TIPM boards over the years, I almost could’ve opened a business just based on that alone. Edit: $500 for repairing them?! Goddamn, I was hosing myself…I was replacing all the pcb relays and reflowing all the joints for $250. Craaaaap.

    • @thomas316
      @thomas316 2 года назад +7

      Doesn't sound like people will be able to purchase the part now so soon you'll be able to charge whatever you like. 🤷🏻‍♂️

  • @dericklowe7513
    @dericklowe7513 2 года назад +1

    i love the reference to matts off road recovery

  • @barthanes1
    @barthanes1 2 года назад +9

    $1800 for a $3 component on the circuit board. The auto manufacturers really have a racket going here.

    • @CAPNMAC82
      @CAPNMAC82 2 года назад

      And the next guy in the area has to go Aftermarket and hope it works out of the box, and for only $100 less.

  • @richardcline1337
    @richardcline1337 2 года назад

    I will never buy a newer vehicle now. TOO much electronic crap on them! My little 2010 Ranger has some but it's still repairable and easy to diagnose. Seeing you with Hank and Wylie is a treat as well.