@@txcgladiator4030 A game mechanic functioning improperly isn't a "skill issue" it's a "gaijin can't go 5 seconds without messing with their game issue" Being complacent with bad business practices doesn't make you skilled, it just makes you a poser.
Because he has his own engine volume dialled right down, and enemy/other engine volume dialed right up. Which allows him to hear around corners and like 200 m away which gives a MASSIVE advantage, the same as purposely using ULQ and he's scum because of it. You see it all the time, he'll be doing something, with absolutely no input visually or on the map and suddenly will come to a dead halt, turn around and be like "There is an AMX-32 back here". And 4 streets away through 7 buildings there will be an idling Leclerc waiting in an ambush position. It's basically wall hacks and is as scummy as ULQ like I said. I have my sound settings both at max and I can't hear shit over the sound of my own engine unless I either turn it off, or something immensely loud is right next to me.
@@_Anato_even still you cannot diminish his skill level as his shot placement and positioning not to mention everybody has they're sound like that your and out liar
The Conway is a joke.... if you've used that... I've gotten 3 shells in a row on a flat side of a tank just to get shell shattered... its 487mm of pen just to get 0 damage.... then a 50s reload every time ⏲..... the best part is when the shell does go through it does nothing to crews or key parts.... I've hit ammo racks and crew just for it be shrugged off.... kind of amusing.... yet APHE has less pen and just 1 hits you everytime.
My experience with the centurions ... is basically "Target undamaged" or "enemy commander, gunner, engine, ammo,engine,transmission , breach, cannon, barrel, driver, turret ring and barrel knocked out.... the enemy still drives away and is able to turn around instantly kill you" ...... or "shell shattered"....
I often found the simplest way to increase your odds of getting a one hit kills with the Centurion is to be focusing on an objective that specifically requires you to get assist kills instead. Almost every time I have that objective and decided to play Britain, I keep finding myself one shotting most enemies (either by hitting their ammo or catching to front section in just the right position for the shrapnel cone to actually get all crew members) and get far fewer assists than I was hoping for as a result.
I kid you not, I got 8 assists and one kill while playing the British Centurion 1 and that lightly armored 84mm thing- the conqueror? That match was still fun but I got absolutely nothing from it.
I find it funny that basically everyone else I've watched make a video on this tank kept getting into full downtiers some even stating that as an advantage of the tank, and then there's Spookston, who just keeps getting uptiered.
Yeah it's weird, it is just barely in the range of the german 5.3 blackhole so it should still be getting downtiers, During my playtime with the IS-2 and the mod 44 I barely saw the 100sp spawn cost. I'd love to comment on this thing specifically but there's no way in hell I'm grinding for a centurion when I own all other centurions.
Getting spookston to play ANY type of british tank is a genuine achievement. Day 2 of trying to get him to play the Achilles. I'll pay for the therapy, pinky promise.
@@Juel92 it's not completely terrible, but the only redeeming quality that makes the M10 good/competitive is the firepower - The Achilles doesn't even have that 9/10 times.
@@little_weed192 >Welding spots, Optics, add-on armor. >0 post pen damage >Doesn't (or very unreliably) set off ammo racks It's a big gun. Too bad it's warthunder and only gets AP
@Gameboy2218 the problem isn't that it only gets AP. That's mostly historical for the 17 pounder. The problem is that a 17 pound shell slamming through an armour plate doesn't do significant damage.
My favourite content! Spookston showing off his skill issue when it comes to non-HE filled shells and his lack of knowledge concerning B(est)ritish tanks
Yep As soon as you get the option to stop using solid shot, don't use it. The APDS on the 17pdr isn't the best, but it's still very good for what it is Especially at 5.3 upwards
"where is my team" is what I say almost every match when we've bled half our tickets and we're losing 2 points to 1 and I'm trying to cap another point but notice the entire team's having a picnic around our one captured point.
Oh, usually my team is either dead or in planes being borderline useless while trying to tell the people still on the ground that they are the worst team they have ever seen
4:50 The Centurion's mobility was optimized for good maneuverability, top speed wasn't seen as very important (Agility was to be about equal to that of the Comet). The fuel consumption wasn't actually that high, its low operational range is more a result of its relatively small fuel tanks. Other petrol powered tanks with similar engines used about the same amount of fuel but often carried more of it (546 liters vs 760 liters on the M48). As for the ingame performance the top speed isn't that much of a downside in my opinion, most tanks at the BR usually don't go much faster offroad anyway. It only gets a little annoying when you're in a downhill locked to 34 km/h while everyone else zooms past with longer gear ratios.
It's quite odd in the game, because the Centy 2 certainly has the acceleration and torque you'd expect from a Centurion. Keeping pace even on rough ground. But the Centurion mk.3 and mk.10 both are modeled incorrectly and are absurdly sluggish above 20km/h on flat ground. I hope gaijin fixed that at some point.
You know, i love your videos man, the memes, the lowkey/chill humor, everthing... and i specially love when you spit facts about the tank you're playing. And my little girl died recently (a pitbull) you really help me to get through these moments, i love your work man, mad respect ❤.
I remember a couple years ago, gaijin decided to nerf the damage of sub 100mm APDS and buff 100+mm apds damage, which was very convenient for USSR/russia, who have pretty much no sub 100mm APDS.
Finally a good tank? How DARE you sir! The crusader was a fine tank! I shall write a letter to the king himself to protest this video from this Spookston Rapscallion!
You should play the British tier 2 Sarc MKVI 6Pdr. It is very fast ( I call it the Super Awesome Race Car ). It has the British 6 pounder and is very good for 3.3. It goes by no armor best armor and if you get shot in the turret you die no matter what ( 3 crew, 2 in turret). It’s got a .50 cal on top for AA and shredding milk trucks. It’s funny because it recoils a ton, and no matter what will land on its wheels probably to counter the recoil. I also think that the crusader II is fun. It’s I think 2.0ish and is super fast, good fun and I believe ( in a British tank) APHE. it is great for capping points, running along the sides and flanking the enemy. Day 6
As The Tank Museum's David Fletcher, also known as Tank Jesus said "The Centurion is the best tank the British ever made, which isn't saying much...". 😂🇬🇧
What would you think of nerfing APHE so it would explode in a cone to close the gap between it and solid shot by a little? I think it would be a good change since it would require more careful aim and remove some instakill weakspots which shouldn't work, and it's also realistic since most APHE rounds don't contain enough explosives to actually nullify the forward momentum of the shell fragments. I think it would also be good to make fuzes work unreliably on angled armor, as was often the case in reality, premature detonation would also be realistic but probably too frustrating.
@@tm1182 Can you elaborate on your point a little? I'd be interested to hear why you think that, because at the moment APHE is a little too forgiving in therms of shot placement in my opinion, since you could literally hit an empty spot on a tank and one shot it because the shell explodes in a full sphere. It also makes no sense from a balance standpoint that APHE is literally just better than solid shot in every way, especially considering some tanks (British and French) don't even have the option for APHE. Compare the 5.3 AC IV in the british tree to the Panther D in the German tree for example. The Panther is arguably undertiered anyway, but look at their guns, both have about the same pen but the Panther gets APHE and therefore has much more reliable damage output. There's also the fact that sometimes solid shot just refuses to spall at all, making it even worse. It should also be noted that the British stopped using APHE after the 2 pdr gun because they found that it caused little to no extra damage compared to solid shot while also having a chance of premature detonation.
@@hawkstable8889 it doing "too little damage to justify the cost" makes sense IRL, because a solid shot penetration or an aphe penetration would both take the tank off the battlefield IRL. I don't think they should nerf the APHE in game because I think the realistic solution would be to buff apds and solid shot, I run mainly centurions @7.3 and my APDS sometimes does literally nothing when it pens. No spall, just straight through, happened a few days ago on a leo 1 side shot. A 9 pound metal dart going 3-4k FPS penetrating armor sounds like it should always spall to me. The other thing I disagree with is the shot placement being too forgiving, mainly because when I use APDS i find that due to projectile size I run into far fewer volumetric issues than when I use APHE, especially larger caliber APHE that gets caught on everything with volumetric. A very slight buff to apds and solid shot would be the solution that I believe would fix the problem without ruining things for others who play APHE centric tech trees.
Horrible idea honestly. Making a shell do less damage doesn't make the game more fun for anyone, and you should never make a game less fun because "muh realism" (volumetric shells was such a great addition am i right). There is a very simple solution which would make the game more balanced and more fun for everybody and that's to just buff the spall on solid to the point where you actually have to think if the penetration trade off is worth the little bit of extra damage. What you're suggesting could have the effect of making APHE practically useless, which absolutely noone wants.
They could've given us an MBT-80, an AS-90 Braveheart, a CRV(T), a FRES Scout SV, an Alvis Sabre or even a TOG 2, any of these would have been an interesting variation. Edit: (I'm still waiting for the British Squadron vehicle tank)
spookston i recommend you to play the chinese type 63 at 6.3 which is effectively a worse pt76 in every aspect but best shell and better aphe and a little more top speed at 1.3 br higher
@@sampackman69 brooooo... What brokeness you talking about? U afraid that the 1 person on the world playing britain for once mught enjoy a slightly overperforming vehicle? Ppl afraid too much of britain while getting constantly shot by ZSU SPAAs
Interesting, I personally find 6.3 to be the most frequent BRs to get downtiered in. So many vehicle line-ups exist at 5.3 which is why I assume there must be a suck up in that bracket.
+The 17pdr won't fit! -PUT IT IN SIDEWAYS +the radio wont fit... -CUT A HOLE AND HAVE IT STICK OUT THE BACK +the engine's no good. -GET 5 CAR ENGINES AND PUT THEM TOGETHER Brit engineering at it's finest.
The reason the Centurion has a lower range relative to top speed is because it had very high torque. While it had limited strategic mobility, the vehicle was exceptional off-road and in mountainous terrain where gradients were bad and the ground was uneven. Effectively allowing it to go full-tilt over muddy fields and rocky terrain that would slow down other tanks, while at the same time having the most advanced stabiliser on the field. Giving it exceptional capabilities compared to contemporary M48s and T-54s. The fuel-consumption wasn't particularly high ether, it just had a small fuel-tank.
I think he would have a stroke playing either the Swingfire or the Striker He hated the Type 60 and there not to different. The missiles are faster and they get early night vision, but that's about it Still very fun to play though
Correct me on this, but this tank should have a boiler on it for tea making. So if you get hit, don’t let them hit the boiler, because it might burn the crew
The uptier on 6.3 is Common because 7.3 is a place for a lot of tanks: Leo1, BMP1, Cent 3, M48A1, T32, Marder probably, T54 51 or 47/49, etc. Other trees have these tanks too
Since playing British I have been up tiered every single game. Most tanks I cannot pen from any angle and I’ve pretty much just had to start using the concept 3 to scout targets and use arty for kills in order to get research
Bruh. As if stabilizer changes anything, when even when you get tge first shot of you die anyways. Its 3 options you have with overpowered britsg vehicles: Shooz gunner, target will dtive off. Shoot driver, target will kill you. Shoot ammorack, it gos yellow and you die anyway.
I just put 2 APDS into a tiger2P. Perfect side shots into the turret ammorack and both were non pen😅 I might just start using the coaxial as primary as it's more reliable than APDS
As a British player the fact they made the caernarvan, cent mk3 and fv4202 go from 6.3 to 7.3. All because bias and jerry mains started crying on reddit about how "overpowered" they were. Ruined the british faction for me Now im facing ERA plated tanks, ceramic armour'd tanks. All that fun stuff and im literally just using a stabilized 20 pounder. Yes, you're very correct, the 20 pounder DOES get apds, is it good? No way lmao, most times it will just shatter or not pen at all even on front 100mm plates, making it very useless to even run in the first place Id really enjoy this game more if gaijoob stopped catering to the bias addicts and jerry wehraboos, the british faction was completely balanced (and completely terrible) but had a shining light which was the 6.3 tier 4 lineup. Then gaijoob bent the knee
APDS got nerfed HARD. it used to be a pretty meta tool, now the damage is actually way worse than HEAT after penetration. it makes no sense. As well as still consistently dissapearing on 20mm armor like the ZSU57 and shattering on flat armour randomly, some times it also does not shrapnel and turns like 70 degrees for no reason.
(This is mostly just extra info for the audience) I don't know if this is on purpose but the dispersion may be because of the round. In real life, the APDS for the 17 pounder was notoriously inaccurate since it was really a brand new advancement in the field and one of the first APDS rounds. I think they were told not to use them past 600 or 800 yards.
Yeah, I heard it was cause the muzzle brake wasnt accounted for, leading to incomplete seperations, lopsided masses, wobbling penetrators, all kinds of fun. Was eventually fixed, with initial solve being to widen the mouth of the brake on the guns themselves
Twitchy index? May be trigger finger. I think that's a symptom of carpel tunnel. I got it when I first started working as a butcher because I was pushing down on the knife with my index finger and no one told me I shouldn't do that until after I got the trigger finger. Got so bad at one point that I could not open my finger on its own, had to pry it open with my other hand. It went away on its own when I stopped holding knives wrong and got one of those keyboard cushions.
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Please I’m begging, I need another HSTVL video please
Day 15 (I guess) of asking too play the BT-42
pls... itf fun :D
Yyyyyeeeeessssssss
Please play the BT-42
Any chance of a video on the design and history of the CV90 family?
The duality of spookston:
-"this is a pretty good tank"
5 kills
-"this is a pretty mid tank tbh, this isn't going to be fun"
**15 kills**
Centurions were even cooler than that before they broke apds
APDS is just useless garbage now, you're better off just using the APCBC because it actually spalls and can usually 1 shot with a well placed shot.
when you dont know what you're talking about, that can happen!
@@angryman_ sounds like a skill issue, I haven’t had a single issue with APDS shells anytime recently
@@txcgladiator4030 A game mechanic functioning improperly isn't a "skill issue" it's a "gaijin can't go 5 seconds without messing with their game issue"
Being complacent with bad business practices doesn't make you skilled, it just makes you a poser.
Spookston’s equivalent of a bad match is my equivalent of downloading hacks
Because he has his own engine volume dialled right down, and enemy/other engine volume dialed right up.
Which allows him to hear around corners and like 200 m away which gives a MASSIVE advantage, the same as purposely using ULQ and he's scum because of it.
You see it all the time, he'll be doing something, with absolutely no input visually or on the map and suddenly will come to a dead halt, turn around and be like "There is an AMX-32 back here". And 4 streets away through 7 buildings there will be an idling Leclerc waiting in an ambush position.
It's basically wall hacks and is as scummy as ULQ like I said.
I have my sound settings both at max and I can't hear shit over the sound of my own engine unless I either turn it off, or something immensely loud is right next to me.
@@_Anato_even still you cannot diminish his skill level as his shot placement and positioning not to mention everybody has they're sound like that your and out liar
@@_Anato_ "I choose to give myself disadvantages and thus everyone that doesnt is scum"
sure thing chief, imma call a skill issue here
@@_Anato_ bro he literally complains every video that he couldnt hear an engine noise you are delirious
@@_Anato_ actually just giving yourself a disadvantage like that's a good thing
Britain main: Wow, I finally have a somewhat useable lower-tier tank! I can finally compete!
Kid named Shell Shattered:
Same BR: Fv4005. Believe me. Its a relieve to have noe shatters and immediate kills
@@chomp5558 also a 40s reload and teabag level armour
@@Dragono_ yeah right. In in the reload time you can take a buscuit and sip your tea.
The Conway is a joke.... if you've used that... I've gotten 3 shells in a row on a flat side of a tank just to get shell shattered... its 487mm of pen just to get 0 damage.... then a 50s reload every time ⏲..... the best part is when the shell does go through it does nothing to crews or key parts.... I've hit ammo racks and crew just for it be shrugged off.... kind of amusing.... yet APHE has less pen and just 1 hits you everytime.
@@bobt2094 it’s stupid just how awful they’ve made solid shot AP
My experience with the centurions ... is basically "Target undamaged" or "enemy commander, gunner, engine, ammo,engine,transmission , breach, cannon, barrel, driver, turret ring and barrel knocked out.... the enemy still drives away and is able to turn around instantly kill you" ...... or "shell shattered"....
I often found the simplest way to increase your odds of getting a one hit kills with the Centurion is to be focusing on an objective that specifically requires you to get assist kills instead. Almost every time I have that objective and decided to play Britain, I keep finding myself one shotting most enemies (either by hitting their ammo or catching to front section in just the right position for the shrapnel cone to actually get all crew members) and get far fewer assists than I was hoping for as a result.
I kid you not, I got 8 assists and one kill while playing the British Centurion 1 and that lightly armored 84mm thing- the conqueror? That match was still fun but I got absolutely nothing from it.
@@robertharris6092 yeah that thing
Spookston's calm "Ah" that he does every time something Gaijin happens... it just resonates with me.
Its the giggle that kills me, every time
spookston: "imagine bringing full ammo"
*runs out of ammo*
“I’m surprised an Israeli player brought full ammo”
Must’ve been under command of Otto Skorzeny
There’s something really funny seeing “Waffen-SS” and “mossad” under the same name
@@rolandb2108 Same thing, different name.
I find it funny that basically everyone else I've watched make a video on this tank kept getting into full downtiers some even stating that as an advantage of the tank, and then there's Spookston, who just keeps getting uptiered.
Yeah it's weird, it is just barely in the range of the german 5.3 blackhole so it should still be getting downtiers, During my playtime with the IS-2 and the mod 44 I barely saw the 100sp spawn cost. I'd love to comment on this thing specifically but there's no way in hell I'm grinding for a centurion when I own all other centurions.
I always get uptiered.... even uptiered by 2 br ratings most times.... like the tortoise 6.7 up against the 8.0 Maus....
@@bobt2094the maus is 7.7, or are you playing ab?
@@bobt2094 you cant be uptiered by "2 br ratings" thats not how it works and the maus is 7.7 so you can fight it
It got its BR lowered?.... damn that explains it..... needs it raised ... back to 8.0
You know spookston is popular when he makes a video and not even 10 minutes later he already has 1k views
That isn't very many views lol
@@WhyThunder. a hundred views per minute seems pretty popular
He's a big kid now.
@@WhyThunder.i mean, for a war thunder focused channel, that's kind of a lot ngl
I feel like this will go to a higher br than faster than cas mains get into their plane after getting killed
6.7 or 7.0, 100%.
Getting spookston to play ANY type of british tank is a genuine achievement. Day 2 of trying to get him to play the Achilles. I'll pay for the therapy, pinky promise.
The achilles is pretty decent. Basically just a M10 but a bit worse ammo but not too bad.
@@Juel92 it's not completely terrible, but the only redeeming quality that makes the M10 good/competitive is the firepower - The Achilles doesn't even have that 9/10 times.
@@Gameboy2218 uuhhh It’s a 17 POUNDER ARE U MAD
@@little_weed192 >Welding spots, Optics, add-on armor.
>0 post pen damage
>Doesn't (or very unreliably) set off ammo racks
It's a big gun. Too bad it's warthunder and only gets AP
@Gameboy2218 the problem isn't that it only gets AP. That's mostly historical for the 17 pounder. The problem is that a 17 pound shell slamming through an armour plate doesn't do significant damage.
I've got no suggestion, I'm just happy that you played one of the good British vehicles for once lmao
Day 44 of asking spookston to play the American M6A2E1
Muties
He's got 2 vids on it, one of his "classic" no commentary with music to gameplay and then one where he discusses the validity of it's inclusion in WT.
I love that damn brick. That is all.
@@Brobro7SF same it's my best tank now
@@Excessive_complaining too late now
Hey Spook,Maybe you'd like to play the R3 T106 FA since it is the gremliest of gremlin tanks
Gremliest of gremlin tanks
I'm definitely using that to describe any gremlin tank now
VOUCH
@@sampackman69 adding gremly into my vocabulary
@@sampackman69yea cause that's exactlt how superlatives work
My favourite content! Spookston showing off his skill issue when it comes to non-HE filled shells and his lack of knowledge concerning B(est)ritish tanks
Yep
As soon as you get the option to stop using solid shot, don't use it. The APDS on the 17pdr isn't the best, but it's still very good for what it is
Especially at 5.3 upwards
I've never had a problem with solid shot at any point playing britain
@@Rorywizz same, at this point I just think Brit mains have a skill issue
I literally just played a game where I put 2 rounds of APDS into a tiger2P turret ammorack (perfect side shots) and both non penned😅
APDS on the 20pdr is decent, and the (stock) APCBC slaps on less well armoured targets
"where is my team" is what I say almost every match when we've bled half our tickets and we're losing 2 points to 1 and I'm trying to cap another point but notice the entire team's having a picnic around our one captured point.
Oh, usually my team is either dead or in planes being borderline useless while trying to tell the people still on the ground that they are the worst team they have ever seen
4:50 The Centurion's mobility was optimized for good maneuverability, top speed wasn't seen as very important (Agility was to be about equal to that of the Comet). The fuel consumption wasn't actually that high, its low operational range is more a result of its relatively small fuel tanks. Other petrol powered tanks with similar engines used about the same amount of fuel but often carried more of it (546 liters vs 760 liters on the M48).
As for the ingame performance the top speed isn't that much of a downside in my opinion, most tanks at the BR usually don't go much faster offroad anyway. It only gets a little annoying when you're in a downhill locked to 34 km/h while everyone else zooms past with longer gear ratios.
It's quite odd in the game, because the Centy 2 certainly has the acceleration and torque you'd expect from a Centurion. Keeping pace even on rough ground. But the Centurion mk.3 and mk.10 both are modeled incorrectly and are absurdly sluggish above 20km/h on flat ground. I hope gaijin fixed that at some point.
You know, i love your videos man, the memes, the lowkey/chill humor, everthing... and i specially love when you spit facts about the tank you're playing.
And my little girl died recently (a pitbull) you really help me to get through these moments, i love your work man, mad respect ❤.
I remember a couple years ago, gaijin decided to nerf the damage of sub 100mm APDS and buff 100+mm apds damage, which was very convenient for USSR/russia, who have pretty much no sub 100mm APDS.
Well yeah. Just fck birtain again for no reason 💀
as a brit main, watching spooks feel the pain that is the brit shot nerf.... My brother i know your suffering
Yeah. I love when my shell shatters against any sort of slope
They did matilda dirty.
>calls someone bad for bringring full ammo
>runs out of ammo minutes later
Love your vids, keep up the good work :)
Finally a good tank? How DARE you sir! The crusader was a fine tank! I shall write a letter to the king himself to protest this video from this Spookston Rapscallion!
2:32 You overestimate the stupidity I can bring to the table as an Israeli main
“Slow and thirsty”
Omg she’s literally me
@spookston From a British main= APDS for frontal armour. APCBC for sides
Britain is actually a very fun TT. Don’t know why people have a trouble with it
@@hellono6501 pokey things no go boom
The gun sounds like throwing a wet towel to a wall lol.
You should play the British tier 2 Sarc MKVI 6Pdr. It is very fast ( I call it the Super Awesome Race Car ). It has the British 6 pounder and is very good for 3.3. It goes by no armor best armor and if you get shot in the turret you die no matter what ( 3 crew, 2 in turret). It’s got a .50 cal on top for AA and shredding milk trucks. It’s funny because it recoils a ton, and no matter what will land on its wheels probably to counter the recoil. I also think that the crusader II is fun. It’s I think 2.0ish and is super fast, good fun and I believe ( in a British tank) APHE. it is great for capping points, running along the sides and flanking the enemy.
Day 6
i thought this day would never come.The day where spookston says a br*tish tank is good
Most of his tumbnails kill count: 10+
This one’s: 5
The title: Good tank
Centurion Mk.3 is like Crusader III but higher - an ideal tank, but you can’t kill the enemy in the most scenario with one shot
As The Tank Museum's David Fletcher, also known as Tank Jesus said "The Centurion is the best tank the British ever made, which isn't saying much...". 😂🇬🇧
at 3:18 there is a turret flying into orbit like a rocket on the left side lol
What would you think of nerfing APHE so it would explode in a cone to close the gap between it and solid shot by a little? I think it would be a good change since it would require more careful aim and remove some instakill weakspots which shouldn't work, and it's also realistic since most APHE rounds don't contain enough explosives to actually nullify the forward momentum of the shell fragments. I think it would also be good to make fuzes work unreliably on angled armor, as was often the case in reality, premature detonation would also be realistic but probably too frustrating.
Absolutely not, and I don't even use APHE
the fuzes being unreliable would be a bad change but the aphe being realistic would be a good change but wouldnt really affect very large aphe
@@tm1182 Can you elaborate on your point a little? I'd be interested to hear why you think that, because at the moment APHE is a little too forgiving in therms of shot placement in my opinion, since you could literally hit an empty spot on a tank and one shot it because the shell explodes in a full sphere. It also makes no sense from a balance standpoint that APHE is literally just better than solid shot in every way, especially considering some tanks (British and French) don't even have the option for APHE. Compare the 5.3 AC IV in the british tree to the Panther D in the German tree for example. The Panther is arguably undertiered anyway, but look at their guns, both have about the same pen but the Panther gets APHE and therefore has much more reliable damage output. There's also the fact that sometimes solid shot just refuses to spall at all, making it even worse.
It should also be noted that the British stopped using APHE after the 2 pdr gun because they found that it caused little to no extra damage compared to solid shot while also having a chance of premature detonation.
@@hawkstable8889 it doing "too little damage to justify the cost" makes sense IRL, because a solid shot penetration or an aphe penetration would both take the tank off the battlefield IRL. I don't think they should nerf the APHE in game because I think the realistic solution would be to buff apds and solid shot, I run mainly centurions @7.3 and my APDS sometimes does literally nothing when it pens. No spall, just straight through, happened a few days ago on a leo 1 side shot. A 9 pound metal dart going 3-4k FPS penetrating armor sounds like it should always spall to me. The other thing I disagree with is the shot placement being too forgiving, mainly because when I use APDS i find that due to projectile size I run into far fewer volumetric issues than when I use APHE, especially larger caliber APHE that gets caught on everything with volumetric. A very slight buff to apds and solid shot would be the solution that I believe would fix the problem without ruining things for others who play APHE centric tech trees.
Horrible idea honestly. Making a shell do less damage doesn't make the game more fun for anyone, and you should never make a game less fun because "muh realism" (volumetric shells was such a great addition am i right). There is a very simple solution which would make the game more balanced and more fun for everybody and that's to just buff the spall on solid to the point where you actually have to think if the penetration trade off is worth the little bit of extra damage.
What you're suggesting could have the effect of making APHE practically useless, which absolutely noone wants.
I freaking lost it when the t34 plowed I to the train car and you put the metal clang sound in. Wasn't prepare for that lolololol
They could've given us an MBT-80, an AS-90 Braveheart, a CRV(T), a FRES Scout SV, an Alvis Sabre or even a TOG 2, any of these would have been an interesting variation.
Edit: (I'm still waiting for the British Squadron vehicle tank)
MBT 80 never actually existed past the scale models stage.
I'm kinda sad that they refuse to add the TOG 2.
@@hydrolox3953what are you babbling about ?
@@hydrolox3953 laughs in TOG2 shielding my Cent2
07:48
historically accurate T-34 skirmish
Hey Spook, are ya gonna play and have a vid on the new French Meme cannon when it comes out? For all 10 of us french mains?
love the art of thumbnail creation. GOOD TANK
spookston i recommend you to play the chinese type 63 at 6.3 which is effectively a worse pt76 in every aspect but best shell and better aphe and a little more top speed at 1.3 br higher
Yo i just found your channel a few days ago and ur already one of my favorite war thunder YTers keep up the good work
Ah, Chally 2s and Centurions. Giving the UK tree the same phenomenon as shermans in the US tree.
If it ain't broke
@@sampackman69 brooooo... What brokeness you talking about? U afraid that the 1 person on the world playing britain for once mught enjoy a slightly overperforming vehicle?
Ppl afraid too much of britain while getting constantly shot by ZSU SPAAs
@@chomp5558 huh?
I want to watch Spookston try the Matilda Hedgehog
Interesting, I personally find 6.3 to be the most frequent BRs to get downtiered in. So many vehicle line-ups exist at 5.3 which is why I assume there must be a suck up in that bracket.
That and 6.7 is always pulled into 7.7 matches.
there are so many vehicles at 7.3 too
+The 17pdr won't fit!
-PUT IT IN SIDEWAYS
+the radio wont fit...
-CUT A HOLE AND HAVE IT STICK OUT THE BACK
+the engine's no good.
-GET 5 CAR ENGINES AND PUT THEM TOGETHER
Brit engineering at it's finest.
Spookston can you do Katyusha next pls I have been asking for so long
hello its me, the first guy you killed with the centurion mk2. man the whole squadron was laughing at me.
Chi-Ha Kai please! (You did say it was one of your favourite tanks in WT) Also: do a review on La Royale update!
The reason the Centurion has a lower range relative to top speed is because it had very high torque. While it had limited strategic mobility, the vehicle was exceptional off-road and in mountainous terrain where gradients were bad and the ground was uneven. Effectively allowing it to go full-tilt over muddy fields and rocky terrain that would slow down other tanks, while at the same time having the most advanced stabiliser on the field. Giving it exceptional capabilities compared to contemporary M48s and T-54s.
The fuel-consumption wasn't particularly high ether, it just had a small fuel-tank.
6.3 gets uptiered a lot, 6.7, afaik is usually ALWAYS uptiered.
the video title: When Britain Finally Makes A Good Tank
the content of the video: spookston slowly falling into despair and insanity.
play the SU-100Y because it would be interesting to see you play that fridge
"Close only counts with horseshoes, hand grenades, and tactical nuclear weapons."
"And Sturmtiger shells!"
"... And Sturmtiger shells."
Spookston you should try the strv 81 (rb 52) it's just a strv 81 but with 3 atgms from the worst Japanese atgm carrier
Acshually
The 81 using french SS11s. Slightly faster than the Jap missile
Starting the day with a Spookston upload
Speaking of British tanks, mind doing a video on the British striker ,please spook😉
I think he would have a stroke playing either the Swingfire or the Striker
He hated the Type 60 and there not to different. The missiles are faster and they get early night vision, but that's about it
Still very fun to play though
@@sampackman69 The strikers missile can turn crazily though compared to the Swingfire. Also I wish to watch spook suffer >:)
@@rileyfitzsimons8875 fair point
Correct me on this, but this tank should have a boiler on it for tea making. So if you get hit, don’t let them hit the boiler, because it might burn the crew
Nah, is electrically powered and crew wearing boots, they be fine
Give it a month till it’s 7.3 for no reason
It's British so yeah
spookieston mah boi did u really go “eep” in video at about 3:48
"6.3 gets more uptiers"
*me suffering in my tiger 2* : yes
tiger 2 doesn't suffer
@@daskollektiv4593 it doesn't, once you get a downtier or slight uptier, full uptier, better be skilled and have the snail on your side
@@culturemaster9639 tiger 2's do fine in full uptiers
@@daskollektiv4593 heat and apds
Ur armour is nothing to them
@@culturemaster9639 yeah but low tier of both of those isnt very good
The uptier on 6.3 is Common because 7.3 is a place for a lot of tanks: Leo1, BMP1, Cent 3, M48A1, T32, Marder probably, T54 51 or 47/49, etc. Other trees have these tanks too
Hey spookston you are sounding particularly soul-shattered this morning
This thing was insane at 6.3. Helped me grind through so much Britain.
Spookston: (hears plane)
“Please no bo-“
(Fart reverb)
"Where is my team???" = "I didn't pay attention to the map and now I'm isolated"
3:32 the moment spookston blew his cover as a damn goblin
1:36 this is the snail's doing, the hate of CAS flows through you
what a beautiful intro really epitomises the uk
I don't care what im doing. if i see a new spookston video i must watch
*_"WHERE IS MY TEAM?!?!"_*
how have you not realized by now that teamwork is super rare in this game and everyone just kinda does their own thing...
spookston, that twitchy finger thing means your arm muscles are tense. You oughta massage and tend to them and the twitchiness will disappear.
Since playing British I have been up tiered every single game. Most tanks I cannot pen from any angle and I’ve pretty much just had to start using the concept 3 to scout targets and use arty for kills in order to get research
A full stab at 6.3 is absolutely brutal. It's going to get popped up to 7.0, there's no doubt in my mind.
the full stab isnt that good, due to the tank its on but it should probably go to 6.7
Bruh. As if stabilizer changes anything, when even when you get tge first shot of you die anyways. Its 3 options you have with overpowered britsg vehicles: Shooz gunner, target will dtive off. Shoot driver, target will kill you. Shoot ammorack, it gos yellow and you die anyway.
i love shooting 120mm apds in the side for leo1 and it just shattering twice in a row so fun
Also i got constant downtiers with 6.3 Tiger 2 and 76 Jumbo. I get like 75% downtiers in those.
I used your creator code gotta support the people who give us entertainment
I just put 2 APDS into a tiger2P. Perfect side shots into the turret ammorack and both were non pen😅 I might just start using the coaxial as primary as it's more reliable than APDS
I don't usually use apds with the centurions, but I keep it if I need it. I usually use the I think it is apbc rounds. Less pen but more damage.
It gets me that Spook cares more about missing the shot, then why his finger is twitching 🤣
remember when you're clicking suspicious links on the internet, Main Battle Tank is always watching...
As a British player the fact they made the caernarvan, cent mk3 and fv4202 go from 6.3 to 7.3. All because bias and jerry mains started crying on reddit about how "overpowered" they were. Ruined the british faction for me
Now im facing ERA plated tanks, ceramic armour'd tanks. All that fun stuff and im literally just using a stabilized 20 pounder.
Yes, you're very correct, the 20 pounder DOES get apds, is it good? No way lmao, most times it will just shatter or not pen at all even on front 100mm plates, making it very useless to even run in the first place
Id really enjoy this game more if gaijoob stopped catering to the bias addicts and jerry wehraboos, the british faction was completely balanced (and completely terrible) but had a shining light which was the 6.3 tier 4 lineup. Then gaijoob bent the knee
APDS got nerfed HARD. it used to be a pretty meta tool, now the damage is actually way worse than HEAT after penetration. it makes no sense.
As well as still consistently dissapearing on 20mm armor like the ZSU57 and shattering on flat armour randomly, some times it also does not shrapnel and turns like 70 degrees for no reason.
the aml not making noise is crazy with the way the driver revs the engines.
(This is mostly just extra info for the audience) I don't know if this is on purpose but the dispersion may be because of the round. In real life, the APDS for the 17 pounder was notoriously inaccurate since it was really a brand new advancement in the field and one of the first APDS rounds. I think they were told not to use them past 600 or 800 yards.
Yeah, I heard it was cause the muzzle brake wasnt accounted for, leading to incomplete seperations, lopsided masses, wobbling penetrators, all kinds of fun.
Was eventually fixed, with initial solve being to widen the mouth of the brake on the guns themselves
If your brain is off that often I'm not be even using mine 😂
2:34 as an Israeli main (yes, we exist in bigger numbers), he is NOT one of us.
someone needs to make a compilation of spooks videos of everytime he says unfortunate.
Your use of half-life 2 sounds is on point, and I applaud you for it sir
Hey, that was a game against me and my "Moist" squadron. GG o7
Gaijin artificially crippling the UK tree every chance they get
"Sorry pal, there's no escape" - War Thunder in a nutshell
Love the edits
6:03 bro shit his pants
APDS is in a fine state, thank you snail.
Dear god please fix it, my sanity is on the line
spookston when carpal tunnel syndrome
Average Spookston commentary in his videos has more intensity and urgency than upcoming new polish crew voices
I think my biggest frustration when playing games is my arm will start shackin when aiming and I will miss by overcorrecting.
Centurion mk3 was a good tank at 6.7, but since they moved it to 7.3, the British tech tree is ended for me
and now they make another Centurrion that has stab at 6.3 (stab was the reason why the Mk3 was moved to 7.3)
Twitchy index? May be trigger finger. I think that's a symptom of carpel tunnel. I got it when I first started working as a butcher because I was pushing down on the knife with my index finger and no one told me I shouldn't do that until after I got the trigger finger. Got so bad at one point that I could not open my finger on its own, had to pry it open with my other hand.
It went away on its own when I stopped holding knives wrong and got one of those keyboard cushions.