Why University is #1 Worst Regret of Most People's Lifetime
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I need an employee younger than 25 and with 30 years work experience
say no more!
Also that same employee must start at $12/hour
Yeah this is exactly what I see when looking for an entry level job as junior engineer. And then they have the nerve to tell me that I lack experience when the job really don't need 10+ years of experiences aside from the degree.
Then you must find reincarnated person.
Sounds about right
*Employer before college:* "You need a degree. It is a requirement."
*Employer after college:* "I couldn't care less about your degree."
Sebastian Elytron they're like you need 10 years of experience 😂💀
It was just a proxy for an IQ test, since employers can't give those out anymore
I just want to thank you for actually saying that last phrase correctly instead of the very commonly used "I could care less" which just sounds stupid if you stop to think about it
well a lot of people got a degree but haven't actually learned anything. The reason they're saying that they couldn't care less is because they care more about what you actually learned. Its still only a piece of paper after all.
Catch 22 isn't it.
I left school at 16 with no qualifications (long story, was bullied like hell). Taught myself to code, worked on open source projects, landed an entry level Developer job; and, today a Senior Software Developer with Jnr Developers reporting to me.
Noice
Noice
Noice.. You're an inspiration..
Willpower makes so much of a difference, nice
Taught yourself how to code?? That’s insane. I don’t think people appreciate how difficult that is,
also, noice.
I hated school so much, there's no way I could have ever gone to college. My mom said that on my first day of kindergarten, I told her it was "... a complete waste of time."
I notice that you can type on the internet, so not a "complete" waste of time.
few tools anddd you are off on the wild
I felt much the same way through most of my "necessary" education - college at least gave me choices on classes. I became a teacher in order to change views and experiences for students - to help spark a love of learning in students. When a student already knew a subject, I'd give them the chance to teach it - no one learns more about a subject, than when they have to teach it to someone else!
😂so young and already so wise! It really depends of what the person wants. For me, in healthcare, I need degrees, certificates, licenses, etc. But my husband has a entrepreneur mindset, his parents are very well financially and the business they have now has nothing to do with what they did in college, they are only around 50 years old, and already retiring!
Erik, good for you!
Everyone is fighting for jobs that are fundamentally rare:
For every architect, there has to be hundreds of construction workers.
For every financial planner, there has to be dozens of people doing tedious paperwork.
For every doctor, there has to be dozens of nurses.
For every person in charge of a cafe, there has to be dozens of barristas.
Instead of telling everyone to go for the few extraordinary jobs, how about we actually improve ordinary jobs?
Because the best improvement is automation and then they aren't really jobs anymore.
@@JoeSmith-oy3hk To be honest I think automation is overstated. True it would be much more efficient however you have to think of the expense. Corporations certainly have because if it were affordable than they would’ve done it years ago. They are attempting to figure out better ways that is true however you can’t deny that the cheapest way is human labor. And when you have a market that is full of tradesman now guess what you have a much larger pool of cheap labor.
@@theeloquenteccentric8321 "A liberal and free world" - that doesn't even apply to half the countries out there.
@@anonb4632 I know my comment was very biased. Remember, I was quite sleep deprived at the time a wrote it and just had to let go of some steam. Looking at it now makes me cringe. Sorry for any unintentional offense I may have caused or that I presented myself as some hypocrite.
@@theeloquenteccentric8321 Fair enough. 👍
_"Get a university degree. You'll get a job."_
_"Do an internship. You'll get a job."_
_"Volunteer. You'll get a job."_
I've never felt more gullible.
Im rather left damage myself by following those guidlines.
Well internships do help get jobs. It got me the job at the place I interned at.
It doesn't matter who we are, what matters is our plan. ,I know what you mean bro.
The sun will come out
Tomorrow
Bet your bottom dollar
That tomorrow
There'll be sun!
Just thinking about
Tomorrow
Clears away the cobwebs,
And the sorrow
'Til there's none!
When I'm stuck in a day
That's gray,
And lonely,
I just stick out my chin
And Grin,
And Say,
Oh
The sun will come out
Tomorrow
So ya gotta hang on
'Til tomorrow
Come what may
Tomorrow!
Tomorrow!
I love ya
Tomorrow!
You're always a day away
When I'm stuck in a day
That's gray,
And lonely,
I just stick out my chin
And Grin,
And Say,
Oh
It doesn't matter who we are, what matters is our plan. To Gat Job!
Boomer parents: You need to go to college to get a job!
Gen Z parents: Whatever you do, do not go to college. It will ruin your finances and your life! What you really need is experience.
Hell yeah.
You need like 10 years of experience at an entry level position when your like 18 years old lol
College is beneficial for about 5% of the people who go. The other 95% spend the next 15 years complaining about the decision they HAD to make. It's embarrassing really.
College is beneficial for those who don't pick a soft major.
@@ibuprofenPill 5%
@@Jiff321 cool. All the people not smart enough to make the grade shouldn't be there anyway.
@@ibuprofenPill smart people lol
@@Jiff321 I didn't refer to smart people. I said people not smart enough, those are the dumb ones.
When everyone has a college degree... no one does.
When everyone has a superpower... no one does.
@@tfowlis6659
Ah, you got the reference.
Sgt Palooggoo it seems 2 people of culture have met..
@@tfowlis6659 aye, well met!
Wow, I didn't expect to see this reference here.
And it's so true it hurts.
Work experience is more important than a degree.
Need a degree for work experience.
Can't find work because of no work experience.
I am fucked.
You forgot the debt.
And the crisis
Reddust86 Clearly, you don't see the value of education beyond job opportunities. You must have had a shitty education that failed to enrich your life and increase your ability to think, contemplate, empathize and understand. What a sad existence you live in. :/
@@BTsMusicChannel The thing is, You don't have to go to school to learn all that in this modern age. Anything beyond elementary for me personally, is a waste of time. But good for you if you found value in your time in school. Because to be honest most people, atleast wise people don't. Sorry if I have grammatical errors. English is only my third language and learned it on the internet and movies.
@@pikameme3322 I have a PhD, but I agree, school is not the only source of knowledge and would never be as snooty as the people who say it is -- or even as indignantly snooty who say that it isn't (such as you, for example). University is a place where you can be introduced to a world bigger than your home town, your country, your time period, etc. very quickly. Unless you have a wayback machine and can travel everywhere, you are probably not going to condense the kind of knowledge you get from a university education in such a short amount of time. You are also not going to learn how to think from the internet -- maybe you are not at the point where you know how to think yet, I don't know. I would say that the people who don't see that are NOT "wise" (as you suggest), but myopic and potentially lazy. The "wise" people are those who figure out how to make the most out of ALL their experiences -- including university. The guy who made this video is not included in this group -- probably because he spent his time hungover in his classes (as he suggests in the video).
I was told over and over again that I needed a college degree. It didn't matter what I studied as long as I graduated from college. Now I have a useless degree and extreme student loans.
No way
ouch
@@shawnmendrek3544 I have a double major in Biblical Studies and Music with a minor in psychology. The plan was to work in the ministry. My husband and I were both in seminary planning on going into the ministry. He was diagnosed with cancer and passed away. So, I have two children with a degree I planned to use for a career that doesn't pay enough for a single parent. So far, I've worked in corporate insurance claims. I had to quit my job to take care of my husband. Now I'm looking for something else, but the options are slim. Thank you for asking. I'm not sure if you wanted such a long answer
@@lisalynnn I really hope u can get some stability, and live ur best life. Please don’t give up
I'm sorry to hear that. I hope your problem fades away soon.
College. Ruins. Lives. I never will get the time back, took me years to pay the money back, and having been to college drastically lowered my earnings for life. To me covid is worth it if it kills off the college scam.
@@10tailedbijuu learning is collaborative. people need to form small groups, to learn online (or offline, for that matter). If an online university is cheap and puts the onus of learning on the student, while facilitating it, it is good for everyone. Too many of these commercial universities don't force the student to actually learn. Grades are propped up, more or less, since the degrees have to be churned out on an industrial scale.
@@fredriksvard2603 no, engineering aerospace
College is the biggest scam of the last 15 years
I think a lot of the European countries do it best. University should be the four year program, and college should be reserved for trades and the like. Moreover, I think there should be opportunities to go into a high paying Doctor, Lawyer, or Engineering job through a trade/apprenticeship program.
@@asdflkj2041 did you do internships before graduating? Cus i know that getting a job in the engineering field is highly competitive and the good jobs require experience. You only get the tedious and horrible side of the field when you start and then get to the good stuff if you didnt do internships.
@@jellyfishi_ government?
I couldn't afford college and wasn't really college material anyway so I went in the Army and learned a skill. Years later as I was ending my career I was flying helicopters in Europe. Home on a break my favorite aunt (who always gave me crap) said, "If you'd gone to college with your brain you really could have done something with yourself."
I looked at her laughing and said, "Good grief, all I do is fly a helicopter around Europe half the time and ride a Harley around Europe the other half. Do you have any idea how many millions of people with college degrees are sitting in windowless cubicles in some high rise staring at a computer wishing they could be me?" HS diploma served me well.
What's HS? Human services?
@@blank.9301 HS diploma = High School diploma
@SilentwarH Hearing loss after sitting in front of screaming turbine engines for 38 years? Yeah, a little. Tested every 6 months during flight physicals and there was no significant loss over normal aging over the career. Retired 6 years ago so what's done is done.
Sleep deprived? With ample crew rest requirements required of flight personnel I was/am sleep deprived only when I decide to push myself when off duty. Like 2 days ago when I rode the Harley 1200 km (Torino, Italy - Stara Pazova, Serbia) in 14 hours through a couple of rain showers in 45º-55º temps heading home on the last day of a 23 day, 6750 km road trip getting home around midnight. I felt a little sleep deprived and slept most of yesterday. At 68 I gotta realize I'm not a 55 year old kid anymore.
But, in addition to 6 figures annually I've been able to see and do things most Americans can only dream about. Elephants and other animals wild in African jungles, wrestling with adolescent semi tame lions (photo on my Instagram), interacting with inhabitants in mud hut villages, flying low level down remote West African rivers, photographing deserted colonial forts in the Sahara Desert from 300-500 feet, seeing snake charmers and camels in Morocco, searching out long forgotten forts and ancient ruins across Europe and generally satisfying my curiosities. For me, a little hearing loss was a good trade off.
@@europeon2wheels89 , I salute you on that ride at 68. I'm 62 and my ultra is mostly collecting dust bunnies. I've been riding on road for 46 years (rode a '56 Pan from Florida to California back in the 70s), maybe just burnout now. Times have changed out there and it isn't what it used to be.
@@warhorse1956 You've got an Ultra. An Ultra sitting around collecting dust is, I believe, a valid reason to be denied entry to heaven after you pass. Been riding 54 years (55 next March) myself and I'm putting all this time in on a Dyna Lowrider. She had 127,231 miles on her yesterday before riding several hundred more to look at an archaeological site on the Serbian/Romanian border.
You're right. Times have changed. Been time to leave the US for at least the last 20 years.
can we just agree that spending a lot of money on student debt is one of the biggest scams in history
fucking textbooks costing like a liver and a bone marrow.
?: it’s only in the us , I’m finishing my first year of engineering and I didn’t buy any books and the whole degree would cost me 10k in dollars. But our government has a
program that gives a full refund of the first year if you are from the outer cities of the country.
If I add up all the discounts and refunds from all the programs the government and other programs in my country I only pay about 3k in dollars.
Thats why I study in Germany where almost all collages cost no money at all. education is free lol. Just like health care
true that
@@Observa_ Lucky!
My parents didn’t go to college and they have really well paying jobs.
If they are really well paying, tell us them
What do they do for a living?
(Not trying to sound rude)
Shæms im curious too
I didn’t go to college and the job I had (aircraft engine inspector) for 36 years, paid very well. With about 16 hours of overtime a week, I was pulling in between $100k to $120k each of the last 5 years I worked there and my pension was based on those last 5 years. So, yeah, a lot of it depends on what career you end up with.
My mom went to college and just left
Just remember the internet exsists. All information in college you can aquire online or in a library for free. Why spend tens of thousands of dollars on school when you can get the knowledge for free. Even most of the experiments and hands on stuff can be done at home if you have the creativity and initiative to figure it out. A portion of the income from that entry level job can be used to fund what you need for hands on stuff. As a bonus it also teaches you financial responsibility and budgeting. If you want it bad enough you'll find the drive to make it happen.
because if an employer asks you how you got your knowledge in the field that youre trying to work and you reply the internet vs a degree which one do you think theyre going to choose?
@@rhysjamescox1644 Well you will be surprised
😁
@@fredriksvard2603 this
If your whole reason for going to college is to make money then yes it's a waste of time. But if your goal is to learn how to think, so that you can live a creative life and actually know what to do with the money you make then go to college it's just 4 years. You're going to be working the rest of your life anyway. For many college was a wonderful experience of self-discovery in a safe environment. For the same 30 -70k that it cost to go to college. You'd be spending that same amount to get a tiny apartment in the city and a busted job where you're tired and all your time is spent and wasted by an employer. For the same price you spend the years between 18 and 21 with in a safe incubated version of the real world for young people. Your parents are gone , you can have as much sex as you want , on a beautiful campus or in the heart of a great city. For 30K you get a meal plan eat whatever u want , exercise , smoke weed all day hang out with friends , roll around in the grass , study, party every weekend , talk about philosophy , travel , play sports , Make a art , & really discover what you r good at. College also gives you time to come up with ideas that you can't get in the real world living in a very solitary way, working for RUclips to make money off your time and data. College exposes you to the things that you don't know so you have a departure point to learn more in life. And let's not forget all the unlimited access you can have to computer equipment, chemistry and science labs , free musical instruments, you can produce a play, make movies , build robots ... look the list goes on and on. Like I said the 30 to 70k a year if you do the math for an apartment, food , transportation annually. College is a much better deal. Go to college to relax and find yourself for 4 years it's worth it.
@@rhysjamescox1644 The practical experience tackling projects in the real world - and the fund of immediately applicable skills resulting from experience - are increasingly more valuable to, and sought after, than degrees, by employers in the fields of technology & the skilled-trades today.
We need to go back to apprenticeships. Learning while you work
That's not all it's cracked up to be. I was a tool and die apprentice, all I did for 10 hours a day was drill holes in steel plates.
Almost all skilled trades still have this and never didnt, people just ignore the trades because they think its beneath them
@@hangfire5005 really good point.
@@georgepacheco4521 if you find the right place it's the best way, in the UK most apprenticeships are run alongside a college course (1 or 2 days a week sort of thing). if you prove to be dedicated most companies won't have an issue funding a degree if it would be beneficial in the future.
What will our health care system look like when we have no doctors and nurses?
I'm a software developer, there's nothing uni can teach me that I can't learn on the internet for free. However most software jobs now demand a degree. It's BS!
Try to find other jobs if you think it’s not worth it
Social skills and networks get you jobs better than a degree. Rub elbows with the right people, show you've got the skill, and you'll do fine.
@@zecekobold2140 You really not, even if you end up with with a job. you still need a degree for any sort of meaningful promotions, or you are stuck making $5000 for the rest of your life...I do understand why companies like to hire uni grads though, it is a safer bet for them, I'd do the same.
Would an easy degree in something like psychology or education cut it or does it have to be computer science?
Luckily software is the easiest, low risk method of making it on your own. After your day job and on weekends, create your own product. Eventually you won’t need the day job.
It depends on your focus, my degree is in music and I absolutely wasted 4 years of my life going to university. In every job I've ever had, not once has anyone asked me if I had a degree
Can I know what job you are doing?
Same here. I work as an engineer yet I do not have an engineering degree. None of my employers or customers asked me for it. And I believe neither Bach nor Michael Jackson have a degree in music either.
i started landscaping for 16 an hour, entry level. Learned the skills on site. Now, less than 4 years later, im at 40/hr and still climbing!
I'm the opposite, I have a music degree too and I've had a great career so far as a professional musician. At that time of my life university was the most useful thing to do. I spent those years practising a horrendous amount every day in between rehearsals and gigs. While a lot of my peers were partying and eventually became teachers I was in the practice room at 3am. Afterwards I joined the Army band for a bit, played on cruise ships, freelanced, did some touring and albums, played in corporate bands, jazz clubs and have travelled around the world. I bought a house when I was 27 which I've been paying off for 12 years so far. I don't make a huge amount of money but I'd say probably just above the average person. Degrees in music or dancing etc aren't about the piece of paper. They're about learning your craft, being around like minded people and learning how to interact and speak the same language in your art form. For me it was dedicating that time in my life to what I wanted to do for the rest of my life. I don't regret it for a second and I don't think you'll meet a working musician who does.
I think that which degree you get has little to do with it. People complain about "useless" degrees, but no one ever specifies what that really means. I got a degree in history with the intention of being a public school teacher; a job that requires a degree and a state license. It's not a "useless" degree. In fact, there are teacher shortages all over the country. But it is a "worthless" degree in the sense that society does not value public education and does not believe that teachers should be paid a livable wage (as a high school teacher, I had students working in food service that got paid almost as much as I was making). I don't regret going to school, and I do like teaching, but there is something maddening about the fact that I worked hard and invested in this degree that is desperate to fill job openings, but I can't afford a one-bedroom apartment in the city where I teach. Meanwhile, my husband has a Phd in math, which is a degree that most people think is "useful." He works as a teacher making a teacher salary because a degree in just math is in fact "useless." In order to get a "math" job, you need a degree in whatever specific kind of math the field requires (accounting, coding, engineering, etc.). Society's ideas on which degrees are "useless" or a waste of time is super backwards, and this notion that any degree is useless is a form of victim blaming in my opinion. As I said, there is a teacher shortage in this country. Degrees in teaching are quite useful. The problem is that employers are not held accountable for making those degrees WORTHWHILE. It's not a teacher's fault that the pay is inadequate, and the fact that we point fingers and tell them they should have known better than to get a worthless degree says a lot more about society as a whole than it does about the choices of individuals to get certain degrees.
I never went to a university, worked in a factory and retired at 57 years old now 72, and living great ! Handle your money right !
That's not how the world works now, be grateful you lived in the easiest generation
@Jo El nobody retailers today at 57...his right though everything is more expensive and just working in factory is a poor life if compering to 1950s
Spot on mate.
That’s an incredibly small mindset if you think money management alone is what enables financial security. Rising cost of housing, minimum wage and poverty rates, locations, opportunity, and what about people who have disabilities or the family that is now responsible for the extensive care and cost from a traumatic brain injury... Debt based on medical bills... I could go on. The world is different and assuming we all have the same projectory in life is simply ignorant.
How does one learn to manage money when they never have had enough to properly manage.
Yes. Some people could be successful by learning to budget... but the vast majority of people have many more adversities to against for securing their future.
Ngl I was making good money at a grocery store, ( my department lost funding due to covid) and it's doable, I was about to buy a house paid my tuition in cash, bought a car, while living on my own. I would advise it you'll be able to stack up cash fast
Also NO teacher has the right to tell a child they will never succeed at anything in life, that's appalling.
+Nyctophora Appalling, dumb, irrational, and many other things. Since when are teachers future-telling demotivators?
Tbh I wish I had a teacher tell me that so then I I could work hard just to show that dumb fuck he was wrongly
Nyctophora i'm successful entrepreneur without a college degree lucky i never wasted my time P,S those type of teachers are the ones who failed their life!!
my math teacher was p much the same kind of cunty mccuntface, and i'm still p much a loser but it's only bc i'm an indecisive idiot who doesn't believe in herself and her skills. but it just take that ONE adult in your young life to fuck your whole perception of yourself completely over and i honestly, wholeheartedly believe that these types of human have a very special table in hell reserved for them.
that aside, i'm a stranger on the internet - and i believe in you and your future success.
i think i was in the 5th grade and took the Aptitude test. and they said i would be a janitor, funny thing is, i own 2 different business and have a vacation home in the philippines now. and life is very good for me, ooh, i also never went to high school, i was working full time 50 to 60 hours a week at age 12 in the US. but now i am 50 years old,
If students left High School fully versed in every subject and are computer literate, that's all you need. The problem is that schools don't give a shit and just pass students through the system without insisting on them actually learning anything.
Jerry Oswald not in the U.K. if you fail you fail and you have no qualifications. But here the problem is that some schools won’t let stupid students take exams in case that kid lowers the school’s grade average.
Another thing that happens is 1/3 of all GCSE students (the exam at the end of Highschool) ALWAYS fail because we have a bell curve grading system that ALWAYS fails the lowest scorers (even if they were to get 99% they could be in the bottom 3rd and fail).
Green Wave 2018
I'm glad they try legitimately.
Green Wave 2018 some schools probably don’t have good funding so teachers like that pay out of their own pocket to give children education
democrats in the US in 2001 made the no child left behind law, it passes the most low scoring idiots,
Unscrewed_Up, Green Wave 2018, A Team : For the record, my point of reference is the Canadian system. In particular the Province of Ontario where the teachers are the best paid in North America with an insanely rich pension and they still want more. It's not like they even come close to earning it when the English and math scores drop year after year and they deal with fewer students as enrollment is also dropping.
I really regret going to university, many people always like to call it “among the best years of ones life”, in my case due to unfortunate circumstances it turned out to be a downward spiral of depression and eventually I gave up on higher education because of it.
How are you doing now?
I think university should not be encouraged unless you really want a specify job and love studying.
@@cockroachman27
I did some IT jobs for a hotel and later went into self employment in wholesale and retail, it’s been good.
@@Hexterguard99 well done. I wish you all the best
I had never been more depressed in my entire life than during my second semester of college. After that, I did myself a favor and started prioritizing my passions and educated myself on things that were relevant to my personal development
I remember I had one teacher who used to tell students that they’ll never succeed in life.
He ended up going to prison for tax fraud 🙃
Shakil Hussain Good!
That sounds hilarious if true.
Was that at Trump Univeristy.
VC YT, is there any time, day or night, that you aren't thinking about Donald Trump? I think you are infatuated.
The real problem is that a college degree is demanded by society for respect. Yes, it's screwed up thinking but it's reality.
Not in the society I live in.
Maybe not in your society, but as to society in general, it is.
Among the 99%, the most importing thing for respect and admiration is being cool and witty.
More like status, but I mean, one could argue it is a waste of money.
so if a someone doesn’t have a degree u would first assume they’re broke, unsuccessful, have a shitty job, making less money?
Someone once told me that with a degree in English Literature you can get a job in banks or major corporations, I did not know they meant as a janitor.
Loll
After scrolling through the comments I've realized that the system is fucked up in most countries
@@joeyjoeanu4910 well it is in most countries.But in some different way.But the common issue is there.
@@joeyjoeanu4910 its you again. I make more than you with no degree and i play in dirt all day. You got scammed. Sucks for you.
@@bigbirdmusic8199 the hell did he do to you?
The system is rigged by corporations and the very very wealthy regardless of where you live. Like carnival barkers, they feed you just enough to keep you pacified.
Universities no longer admit students. They admit customers.
Austin J underrated comment
Are you sure that it wasn't always that way???
Yeah they are financial institutions.
It's a big racket.
They are businesses driven like other businesses by the need for money. So they need to convince you to purchase their product or service.
I don't regret the education but I do regret the debt. In high school, I was selected as one of the "smart" kids and was pushed to go to university. Before I was even of age and educated of the significance of debt I was convinced to sign the papers that would ensure endless years of stress and hopelessness. I feel it has ruined my youth and my optimism for life. Not once did anyone think about what -I- might have wanted as an adult, but rather what they could mold me into.
I am a very spiritual guy who doesn't care much for materialism and would be happy living minimalistic in a beautiful place somewhere, but because of my education I'm stuck in a position that is sucking the life out of me. What have I got to show for it? A bit of paper that says I'm smart. Fat lot of good that has been.
Some of you may say "you took on the debt and should have done your due diligence, now you have to live with it"... I was a child, I was given promises by those I trusted. Those promises were idealistic garbage, I've been scammed by an education system turned predatory loan vendor.
Relatable. It’s difficult especially if you come from a background where not a lot of kids perform amazingly to make up your mind on what you want to do without having teachers and family constantly pushing/guilt tripping you into doing things you aren’t fully for. I’ve studied maths at university and while I didn’t particularly hate the learning, it was one of the worst situations I’ve been through and if I could go back and decide whether I went, it’s unlikely I would have made the same decision (that’s ignoring debt issues).
Even at this point I’m still being pushed to go into careers that I actively dislike and do not want to be in, but at this point I’m not about to start doing anything that’ll just make me miserable. Life is way too short for that at this point.
Same here. I was considered one of the smart kids in my class. College made me miserable. I live in an Eastern European country and our higher education is not expensive so I don't have debt but all the stress surely took away some years of my life.
Hercules Lenny well yeah in the US people usually take out massive loans it sucks, if say wherever you are uni is paid by taxes or whatever and is not causing your country economic collapse then its ridiculous that we dont do that here
"I was a child, I was given promises by those I trusted. Those promises were idealistic garbage, I've been scammed by an education system turned predatory loan vendor."
Exactly. It's not your fault that you trusted lies by people who are morally and ethically obligated to be trustworthy.
When you lie, everything that happens as a result of that lie is your fault.
When you tell the truth, everything that happens as a result of that truth is what was meant to happen.
When the colleges and universities lie about job and earnings prospects after graduation, knowing that they are telling lies, everything that goes wrong as a result of that lie is 100% their fault and their responsibility.
It is not the fault of the students who were lied to. They made rational and responsible decisions based on the information that they were given. That was their responsibility. It was the responsibility of the schools to tell them the truth so that they could make informed decisions. The schools have failed to do that.
"It's your fault for believing my lies" is how a psychopath engages with the world.
Debt is modern day slavery.
College has no way of determining supply/demand of occupations especially 10 years into the future. Therefore you get too many students chasing too few jobs.
College for me was almost useless. A year or two worth of experience taught me so much more than school ever did. Also with the rise of the internet, you can learn everything on your own with out the cost.
“I never let my schooling interfere with my education.” Mark Twain.
@@victoriasalter1701 I learnt more from books, internet, games .etc. Than school.
College needs to stop forcing people to take useless classes you don't need,why does a nurse need to waste their tike taking classes like fine arts or communications classes they don't need for being a nurse?
Degree apprenticeships exist AND are FREE.
18 Year old: going to college, heres a 100,000 loan!
18 year old: buying a car, sorry your credits not good enough for this 10,000 dollar loan.
Tyler pantaleo EXACTLY
To be fair, its not the best idea to get a loan for $10000 car when youre 18.
@@2222thebeast oh for sure, i was just pointing out the absurdity of one vs the other lol. Shoot at 18 my first car was a 1997 Honda civic i bought for 2000.
that's casue you can default on a car loan and then not have to pay the rest of the loan back...student loan? You can declare bankruptcy and you will still have to pay that back if you get back on your feet.
When I was in college I was sent a credit card I did not apply to
They'll give credit to anybody in college..
Employers 30 years ago: Oh, you have a degree? Awesome! We shall pay you well.
Employers today: So, you have only 1 Ph.D., a mere 10 years’ experience, and 3
recommendations from several heads of state? Yea, we are looking for someone
with a bit more for this entry-level job.
So you have 2 PHD'S, 15 yrs experience and 5 recommendations for this entry level job?
"SORRY YOU ARE OVER QUALIFIED".
They'll tell you we don't like your way of thinking. You are already molded into a frame. In nicer words obviously.
@StoptheWars same thing happened here in europe. Now we have a crisis of homelessness of th people who actually have great jobs.
totally true employers have become impossibly picky at least where i live.
This i agree happens and its unfortunate.
Everyone who went to college or uni knows the regret of going thru it. I feel like that's the time you realize you wanted something else.
Taeyeon💕💕
In Belgium:
No degree: “You can’t work here, you’re uneducated.”
With degree: “You can’t work here, your degree is too high. You’re too expensive.”
Fml
Work in Russia instead as they ain’t politically correct weaklings.
Do not work in Russia as they have a weak economy among many other problems.
Sounds like your damn if you do and damned if you don't.
Being told you are overqualified is stupid. Obviously you called the person in after reading their resume/CV. Instead you wasted someone's time for your own amusement.
@@krystalbrooks6869 Yeah it's like: "HEY!! hey! Over here! Come over here! ...... I don't want to talk to you go away"
Go to college to be a Doctor, lawyer, Engineer, , scientist,and teacher. The rest trade school or life experience.
Hate it that people oversee trade schools, a cheaper and better alternative. Of how everything seem to require a college degree...
@@youtubeviewer4804 what I think is worse is that we are going to far and saying that all that matters is trades. Academics are needed just as much as trades. Why is that so hard for people to grasp?
engineering these days is incredibly competitive you may have to move very far away from home to find a job or like my buddy there may just plain be no jobs at all.
@@theQuestion626 Most people don't see the value in something unless they can envision it eg electrician fixes a fuse box. Social work, public policy, economics, psychology, cultural heritage management, the arts etc are equally essential to a well functioning society.
@@milly4543 thank you. That is something that I am so frustrated that people do not understand… The essential symbiosis of both trades and academia. You need people to do the physical labor just as much as you need someone to handle the intellectual analysis. Neither one is more important than the other. To say otherwise is completely ridiculous as well as absurd.
I am a farmer and i make more money than many doctors, lawyers and engineers.
Darth Bane my father once told me there is no good weather for farmers (he is a baby boomer and lived on a farm in northern Germany his childhood) he said that farmers will complain that it rains to much or too few , that the sun shines to much or to less and if they do have a great year , so do all other farmers meaning prices drop and they earn less ... is that true ? That there is no good weather for farmers ? XD
@@yorneustein7851 well i am from southern spain and i farm aloe vera plants. So its a different kind of farming than normal produce. I rather have it rain twice a year like it does here and i irrigate once every two weeks. I cant really complain i get about 35k euros per hectare with minimal labour.
Darth Bane that is neat , thx for the reply
@rvidal0001 ok i guess everyone has their preference and i am glad you are happy but yeah, there is no smelling of shit since i use pond water for irrigation. Secondly i harvest once a year and thats a weeks worth of work, around 10 hours per day for 5 daymen i hire to do the job. I go once every two days to my farm to have a look at it and maybe do some weeding for a hour or two in the morning and be back at 10:00. The rest of my time i spend at home with my family. I would kill myself having to go to a office and sit there all day, day in day out, all year. I work 30 hours a month tops. I guess for dairy farmers and so on its a different story. But i cultivate a desert plant in a semi-desert, think new mexico climate. And i have all the free time in the world. I used to have a job like you, i served as a submariner after i went to naval acadamy for 4 years. I like what i do now way better since i am exceptionally lazy and rather do the least amount of work possible for the most amount of money😄
good for you✨
So glad I went down the apprenticeship route. I know so many people in debt with university degrees that just end up stacking shelves.
Well, my wife has 2 masters, and loves her job, for her the debt was worth it, but I'm in the Operators Union myself.
Bro I'm in first year college, idk how long i can take take this someone kill me
Sameeee 😭
@Xinge Gao so true. US ranks last in healthcare, maternity/paternity leave rights, government diversity. First in prison inmate occupancy, women’s birth mortality rate. That’s just off the top of my head.
@@10tailedbijuu that's true Portugal talks so much shit of Brazil and because there is allot of crime there...But they never show they're own news...It's sad really.
Dude, I'm doing psychology (I'm South African), I feel you.
Learn to code, or go to a code boot camp where your debt will actually secure you a job in only about 6 months. Thank me later.
having lost everything 4 times, on the street 4 times, and finding myself having to start again at 48, I've kind of lost motivation now.
Ha
Same here, brother...I'm 52. It's a lot harder to get that drive back when you're older, and been knocked down so many times.
@@cursedcliff7562 Piece of shit
What did you do bro?
Well Buddy you have no choice but get back on the horse. Figure out what you did wrong/could have done better, and move ahead.
I studied animation in college. As someone who lives in Mexico City and was fortunate enough to finish university debt-less (because private education is way cheaper) I still deeply regret spending four years of my life learning absolutely nothing just to get a paper that no one hiring me has ever asked for.
I've learned so much more from free online courses than from entire years in college.
If you are going for an "artistic" career (such as cinema, graphic design, animation, etc) my advice would be to just focus on honing your craft and building an impressive portfolio rather than wasting your time and money on art schools. You're better off learning from online courses, be them free or not, since even the paid ones are but a fraction of what college costs.
Stunner this^ i never understood the point of art courses anyway. Showing an employer a piece of paper saying you done a course is much less impressive then smackin them with your thic portfolio.
Um... okay... gonna start with "I kinda feel like an idiot even asking..."
BUT that's never stopped me before, either. (lolz)
Where would one go to find out better (and probably worse) ways to create or organize or make a portfolio presentable???
I mean, everyone talks about this portfolio business, but so far, other than some weird and dubiously arbitrary sounding crap, I haven't found anything to seem "credible" on the matter... SO is there even a better or worse way to make a portfolio?
AND no, I'm not about to cram a bunch of crap I drew in crayon into a manilla folder, superglue some leather "binding" on it and call it a day. Tempting as it is to a comic like me... just no. ;o)
i dropped out of 5 different schools because my mental health kept going down because i was called stupid etc constantly; im still not doing great tbh, but in 2019 i started working for 3 months, was payed hourly and the work i did was absolutely inhumane. working 14-16 hours, 6 days a week, i ended up making 12k in 3 months. i used that money to pay for my own school and help my mum out. im almost 21 and doing my GCSE's. im struggling, but this video gave me hope again and i feel a slight flicker of determination. just wish i didnt feel like a complete failure constantly...
I got an ad for a university at the beginning of the video.
Oh no...
I got Lincoln, it’s a good University.
Same
Sameee
Over 69% of software developers are self thought using online courses, bootcamps, books, blog posts and stuff. Many traditional school are like 20 years behind teaching loads of theory, and outdated usless stuff.
Very true as a software developer i felt i learnt nearly nothing at university, experience is everything
I seriously doubt that, since I get fresh people working at my company that come up with stuff I learnt at university 20 years ago, like refactoring (a word that is misused these days)
Of course as a software engineer you never stop learning. If you think you are just going to come out of college and never pick up another book, software engineering really isn't for you.
Uni gave me a good basis but it was not worth the money i paid. Although it allowed me to get a job straight out of uni which is better than most, i feel it still wasn't worth the money. The uni life and experience was fun tho
Im currently having to learn every the CS degree didnt teach me like modern programming languages and github. I can write you a shitty network application in ANSI-C that will run on a 50 year old computer that sends u a bit or two tho
well if all you want to make are glorified CRUD and ETL apps then yeah, who needs the education and that theory and "outdated useless stuff". But if you really want to work on something interesting, then you need a degree.
I went to university and got no mans sky in same year. I learned from my mistakes and dropped out and deleted the game the next year.
James Brooks LOL 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
"And so... the man became a success" thoughty2 voice
Thank you for this video. I was on the verge of giving up on life but this video helped to change my mind and for that sir I'm extremely thankful .
A friend spent $80k studying graphic design in a fancy art school for 5 years. She graduated and designed brochures for restaurants and real estate agents and later got laid off when they start using freelancers from India and Brazil for 5-25$ per logo design.
I have second hand depression reading this
You don't need to waste 80k on an art degree to do arts. I believe Michelangelo etc didn't have any either.
@@envitech02 or animations
That's not the school's fault. Sounds like she could have made a wiser choice.
@@ibuprofenPill obviously its not the schools fault, its her fault for thinking an artists needs school. I mean its kind of dumb when you think about it. Like going to music school. How many of your favorite musicians when to music school? Im willing to bet very few.
If all jobs require experience how do I get experience? 😩
Internships, apparently.
@@twinblade02 Thanks man. Just four hours ago I gave my resume to some game shop, to my surprise they didn't ask for experience 😄😄
@a dr thing is, low pay job experience does not substitute that of high skilled work. And not to mention, "low pay" isn't the most financially viable thing today.
Notice that yes, all jobs require experience, but not all require a collage diploma. So do the logical thing and try as hard as you can to get any kind of experience. It is way easier, faster, cheaper and expedient than getting in to debt for a maybe career. In 2019 it is truly insane to commit to anything financial for more than one year. So don't do it!
You are screwed basic because no one really wants to teach on the job in most fields. The more logical notion they don't want to do they want you to go get a degree. Even if it's free it's not worth going after. Better to find a way around.
Went to school for graphic design. The plan was to go to school for 4 years and start working for a company like Go-Daddy. After graduating there were many people with my degree and not enough jobs to hire everyone. Even internships started requiring several years of experience before consideration. Go-Daddy said they required 3-5 years minimal experience (understandable) and the internships required 2-3 years minimum experience.
1) So I went to school for 4 years(22 years old when I graduated)
2) Managed to get an internship after 2 years of freelance work ( 24 years old)
3) Spent 3 years with the internship, I was a part time graphic designer for a title and loan company. ( now 27)
4) Finally got hired by Go-Daddy as a graphic designer. At the age of 28 I can now finally start my life at the bottom of the totem pole. Practically making the same amount of money as I did when I was a full time server during college.
Yeah I see this a lot - there is more than one way of winning - had an acquaintance whom started in a mail room and now earns 300k a year - he has nill formal education.
Hope this is a made up story, hard to believe that a server makes as much as a professional job in USA.
合 He said he started at the bottom of his career, meaning he is a beginner not getting paid as a person who worked there for like 5 years or something.
Bruh, should I just quit my aspirations of graphic design. This is depressing
U need 4 year to learn how to draw?
If I knew what I now know about college, I wouldn't have attended college almost straight after high school. I might've taken a year or two off, if not skipped college altogether.
When I reach college I'm going for STEM.
I'm already decent at those, and definitely enjoy them. So why not?
Getting an EE/CS degree was the best thing I ever did. I never would have studied differential equations and control systems science on my own. Product integrals explain everything from correlation to time domain response. Decades later I still think Signals and Systems (Laplace/Fourier Transforms) is the coolest thing ever. It's what puts the "digital" in digital video and digital audio.
@@camgere I have no idea what you just said but if it makes you happy and rich, it must be good. Congrats.
For stem, yes get a degree
It's expensive. Ridiculously expensive.
I think it’s cheap tbh
gotta pay for those shitty courses somehow
Duglet nothing is free, enjoy your super high tax rate
Duglet Gaming it's not free.... higher taxes
Demi S16 No it is not expensive for me? Oh you must live in USA.
- it's expensive.
- you often don't start out anywhere near the sector you studied for.
- it's expensive.
- most companies consider a degree a mere PREQUISITE for young kids to fill in the consistently open spots for their coffee delivery boy squadron.
- it keeps getting more expensive further down the line.
did i mention that papers merely mean that you have a shot at one of the top jobs in the field you studied for, and that there's is no guarantee you'll ever get it and most actually don't and just end up doing something else for pretty much the rest of their lives?
*P.S*:
it's life suckingly expensive.
So true and after all the hard work you did just to get that paper ,you're left with a massive student loan debt .
It's free in Europe. As well as healthcare
I'll have you know that No Man's Sky has come a ways since the posting of this video!
I agree
What I want: The skip college, learn how to make video games, illustration, and animations. And to gain a sustainable income.
What my family wants: For me to waste 2 to 4 years of my life in college, get a degree, realized that I wasted 2 to 4 years of my life for nothing, work in a job I don't enjoy, not have a sustainable income, remain miserable, and end my life with the most painful death possible.
Well it's partially not they're fault since that statement was probably true back then.
@@jessamae9265 Good Point.
Why you attacking me so personally 😪
I think there are some colleges that have video gaming programs.
Its literally the same for me. They indirectly told me to just bend my knee and work for companies who accept people with what is written on a diploma whilst telling me to have my own business...
Education has become like gold. It's only valuable cause others value it.
immortality64 Formal education is like gold. Self education is not.
@@TheeBlackSilhouette exactly...if that were the case everyone would be an engineer, youtube accredited.
Gold is limited to real scarcity, has inherent value and has many functions.
Fiat currency is the one that's valued because you're told to value it.
@@prelude12341 - I doubt it. Learning a useful skill can involve an enormous time commitment, and most people would rather watch television or play video games. Furthermore, most "useful skills" have a laundry list of prerequisite "general skills" that are absolutely necessary if you want to become an expert. A world class programmer also needs to be a high level logician and mathematician, because logic and mathematics are at the very core of computer science.
@@cerebraldreams4738 Unless you sit down in front of youtube 4 hrs a day and do hand calcs, you won't go through what most engineers went through.
Too many people in college who should not be there.
This.
Yes. If you ask me personally, most people shouldn't be going to University.
Its just that, when people think they have what it takes, but they dont.
@@aegoni6176 Not only that, they are learning subjects that won't improve their skills or Job prospects either.
@@infamouscrusader3363 I think most people should go to post secondary like trade school and community college but university should be for the top 25%
You know what? this is much deeper impact than any motivation videos out there
My personal favorite in computer-science at those so called non profit universities:
Being forced to use some overpriced and bloated proprietary software, while there are better more extensive and free open-source software alternatives available. Just because the company who made the overpriced software sponsors the campus.
Practices like this should be illegal, as it is less in the interest of the student than it is in the interest of the company,
who provides one year free license keys hoping all those students will return after graduating.
I have also noticed most proprietary software to be of very low quality & stability compared to open-source software.
You just described anything Avid related perfectly. Fuck Avid.
@@tulpamedia I think it's at all colleges / universities...
I've been forced to follow some of Cisco's CCNA exams, which was a huge waste of time. The exam was pure theoretical, so none of the students got any practical experience. Had to learn overpriced KNX for my home automation course, and overpriced Schneider PLC's for my industrial automation course. The KNX pc software had a memory leak, the Schneider software had a bug where it would faulty save your project thus making it corrupt and unusable. Had to save the project in two separate files, just to be sure... Was also forced to learn lab-view, another piece of overpriced and severely bloated proprietary garbage... Not to forget that we where forced to use expensive Altium, whilst I (as Linux user) prefer using Eagle or KiCad.
I studied embedded hardware and software engineering, so there was absolutely no reason to force home or industrial automation garbage onto me, yet they did...
PS: Another recommendation for after your studies!
Never work outside of an IT or tech company that doesn't directly profit from your work... Non tech or non IT companies see the IT department as an endless money-pit, thus won't invest in it. The whole IT-infrastructure and software-architecture are most likely PTSD inducing and maddening s***-show.
Bro. I go to college online. It is very cheap, and they use some open source and free software in the computer science program. I avoid using open source. Microsoft is much better nearly every time. Visio, studio, studio code, word, PowerPoint, excel... The free stuff they use is only used when necessary. I occasionally try the software only to find it sucks and go back.
And I want to use open source, I would like free open source. I would prefer it. It just tends to suck. I even tried multiple browsers and continue to go back to chrome. I'm sure new stuff will come out eventually. But I'm also sure it won't be open source as the best. I mean it's the best if you want free and possibly more privacy or whatever. But it does not work as well
@@dreamleaf6784 Open source software is written by developers, for developers.
Sure there is a steep learning curve with open source software. It's not about being easy to use, it's about stability, performance and security.
Just don't give up so fast, and try using open source software on a Linux system.
I've been using Linux as main operating system since 2018, and on servers since 2011. Whenever I try to use a Windows machine, it's annoying, buggy, slow, unresponsive, etc...
I work as software engineer and my job gave me a Windows 11 laptop. I bring my own personal Linux laptop to work, because I can't stand the Windows machine they gave me.
This channel is so criminally underviewed despite its subscriber count. I don't really like posting cheesy stuff like this, but seriously, keep doing what you do, Thoughty2. The quality produced from time, effort, and a real passion put into the videos you make is such a treat on this website.
Blame the youtube algorithm. I haven't seen this channel on my homepage in forever.
I don't think it's under-viewed. lol
Because it can be discussed how reliable this source is. Double check everything he say
MissCin101 same
He probably has pro conservative websites in his google search history, so he's suppressed for it on his youtube channel. Or looks at really nasty creepy porn.
I got a college ad on this...
Bullshit. RUclips does not place ads on sponsored videos. Since this video is sponsored by skillshare it is impossible to see any ad
Morgan Lemons i got
a condom ad
its a trap!!!
Morgan Lemons Lmao!
Morgan Lemons ironically enough, your not the only one XD
WOW! Amazingly enough, my math teacher had a very similar opinion about me. Math gurus seem to think that if you're not as excited about solving complex mathematical equations out of fun, that means you have no problem solving skills and will never unlock the secrets of the universe and therefore, you suck lol. Me, I had a love for music. Drumming and singing mostly. I was encouraged to leave this dream alone growing up, that being a struggling musician is no way to live. I did the sensible thing for myself, not having interest in the mathematical or mechanical fields, being told Historians are poor (History being a huge passion of mine, exceeding music even), feeling too stupid for any science or technical fields, and sure I was going to fail miserably in college. I joined the Marines. And did very well in the Marine Corps. I owe a debt to my Drill Instructors, SSGT Wojciechowski in particular, he picked me as one of the recruits to really push to my limits. Physical and Mental limits. He pushed me man. And I was better off for it. Had confidence in myself for the first time ever in my life. I went on to become a Nurse and it's a fulfilling job. I read about History constantly, that's how I found this channel actually. And I still drum in a band for fun. That's my hobby and it's a very fulfilling hobby.
In Uzbekistan:
No degree: some money, start working
With degree: some money, start working
With a tank: just start working.
The end!
The main reason I went to college was so I could avoid getting a job. I wouldn't recommend it.
Pro gaming: don't act like I'm not there
LOL nice try bro
im dropping out den.
Why wouldn’t you recommend
😂😂
I know of someone with a PhD who pumps petrol at a local station. I personally have Master classes under my belt, I'm unemployed and my wife works for Walmart.
That's actually pretty sad I think it's time to leave where u live because they obviously don't have jobs for graduates
what was your masters? where are you where they are no jobs? you should move
I just got a job working as a steel worker for mining supplies....but yeah, a BA and some masters and I work in manual labor.
Masters was going to be in computer stuff for medical industry but I'm really not good at abstract stuff...
@@drrocketman7794 steel worker? Steel is going under fast in the United States. Can you use your BA and masters in a different field than what you studied it in?
I’ve got a full ride with scholarships and grants at my university. My brother didn’t, so he started at a community college then transferred to a university. We’re both debt free. Makes me wonder why people attend a college they can’t afford.
A lot of people claim that a college degree is useless and then look down on community colleges even though they can save you a lot of money
It's videos like these that make thoughty2 a catalyst for my spirit. I appreciate this man for his "break the fourth wall" moments of wisdom and inspiration. Also, I truly appreciate the free two months. I will definitely be doing everything I can to make the most of it. Everything going on in the world (almost 2 years later) screams "take this time to change your family's future."
I'm $70K in debt and unemployed. Everywhere I've applied is asking for experience, says I'm over or under-qualified, or no response. Not to mention everyone in my career field is underpaid and overworked. God bless Amercuh!!
Anthony Sgambati don’t blame it on America bro. If you’re not I read hat wrong. We as people have to make smarter decisions, be more ambitious, and work harder. You do those and you won’t have any debt down the line. I hope you find a job just never give up. God bless America.
Start a business make some money and get experience. I did
I don't believe in blame. But I do believe in naivety ;) Been ambitious and hard working my whole life as are many other millions in poverty. Please don't pretend to know me or my situation, I don't pretend to know yours and keep your regurgitated motivational quotes to yourself 👍
Jallel Cumington You're 70 thousand dollars in debt because you went to college? Don't blame it on murica bro, it's tottaly your fault for being ambitious. You should just not pay for college lol or get a degree from a trash can where other people left theirs diploma.
Take something thats not fucking stupid in College and youll get a job.
Before: Employers finds employees
Today: Employees finds employers
Suriya Suntiviraporn today’s employers: FUCCKKK YOU!
Plain & simple and activate forevermore for jobs....more folks need to learn the language course code lol.
Note to all: Avoid University/College schools and don't listen to your parents either or other sources of political police parenting lol
Code of some that obviously told: they are telling you to get in to debt & die in it & may or may not believe they tell u wrong.😏
Me watching this while I'm in middle school: *Hmmm interesting*
Yes hmm
Must be nice. Savor it, you'll never get it back.
@@pricklycats Not really! Life can get easier and better if you're not poor and have a hard work, You end up spending more time on class on high school than on a field specialized work, If you get the green you get a better life, simple as that
Go to community College and get your AA, better yet, do running start and get your AA in high school
@@CastVooDoo no. just start landscaping. Everyone needs it, and its super cheap to get started.
Inspirational, informative and simply brilliant. A must see for every highschool student!
I have the opposite problem. Growing up the way I have I don't feel passion towards anything. I just want friends
I guess go to work at Facebook or myspace so you can find where the friends are.
Work at a bar lol, heck open one, call it “friends welcome”
Well... Until/if you're lucky, all you can do is learn and loving it. And embrancing the pain of a shitty society, by doing something about it. By learning and spreading information. I recommend reading up on Jacque Fresco, The Venus Project, TROM and a 'resource-based economy' in general. Works wonders in a shitty life, to know what's going on!
Honestly man....same
Us humans are just wild animals like the rest, but playing at being fancy and complicated. So when you’re stressed just think about that and enjoy your life.
Okay the "No Man's Sky" part killed me lol.
The Disabled Gamer same, that part was hilarious 😂
He doesnt joke alot but when he does its great
The Disabled Gamer yeah man 😂😂😂 it was too much 😂😂😂
That really hit me where it hurts 😂
You know a RUclipsr’s good at rambling when I stay and am actually intrigued for 20 minutes straight
This video came out years ago and no one may see this but that story at the end and what you had to say about it really gave me a lot of hope. Thank you, Thoughty2.
"follow your passions." Is often terrible advice and is the exact reason people join over priced useless degree programs.
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The problem is not following your passion, the problem is knowing what your passion is. People are interested in certain things yes, but they are not passionate about it. When you find something that you are truly passionate about then you will do anything to service that passion.
A lot of passions dont even need a degree. The agenda and social ideal of having one and it making you a better person is the bigger problem. If more people did their passions outside of college you would see a major decrease in tuition and students.
@@djbobby224 that's true.
Follow your passion, but most of us don't truly know our passion at all. It is usually an illusion.
Behind every 10 modern over-educated applicants is a boomer employer that can't open a PDF.
over-educated in what? social studies?
GSXR 750 gender studies...
@@thewhizkid3937 more manipulated "facts", i'm sure.
Your pep talk is a lot of nonsense. "Just do what you love!"
I really love making stupid comments on RUclips, but it has brought me no success at all.
Why not make content on RUclips and comment on them
Sometimes creative people forget where they get their money. From people working regular jobs that are required for society to function.
Just to clarify, when you said paying for university gives a higher level education, that's not true. The part about students having more resources is true. But the core to a great education is not just how many expensive resources you have. You do need a basic level resources covered (how much varies with the career) but once you cover the basics, additional resources matter less and less the more you have. The example is the university I go, UBA. It is one of, if not the best university in all South America. Specifically in the area I study, biology, I can tell you that we are sought out more than US. biologists, worldwide. That is because our degrees are a 50% longer and focus much less on specific recent discoveries and a lot more on all the fundamental principles. Also, our teachers are not well paid, but their positions are fought over a lot because it's prestige and access to investigation. And since they do not cover fully with just teaching, all of them do investigative work simultaneously.
Of course this is kind of an exception to the rule, and still my uni is not perfect by a very, very long shot. But it goes to say, don't get fooled by the idea that you have to en debt yourself to get a very high education level. In some cases, all you need to do is keep up with the hard work (not easy at all).
I'm not sure he meant it categorically like it's the only thing that matters and all other factors can be the same and it will still be better. And there are a few factors which make the UBA comparison to private US/UK universities pretty awkward.
Starting with one thing you mentioned, even if it's probably not the case for all fields, having a 50% longer degree duration seems really relevant. Would UBA biologists be more sought out if US/UK degrees in Biology were 50% longer, while also having access to those better resources? It would make sense in the context of thoughty2's observation about companies preferring to shift the burden of training people to universities that they'd tend to go for the candidate with 1.5x training.
Then there is the whole context, the things you mention about how teachers are basically forced to teach for access to investigation and also pretty much forced to investigate to keep from starving, coupled with the fact that we live in a country (provided you still live here) which is at a very different stage of economic development, basically in the situation thoughty2 described for the UK decades ago where most people can't afford the luxury of even "free" university because they need to support their family before they even graduate HS, make it uncertain to me if the UBA model would be able to scale as is, if we ever solved poverty and had to actually give a lot more people free university.
Now, I'm not against public universities (or at least not exclusively, I do think the whole system is just as stale as thougthy2 describes and needs a complete overhaul), but it seems to me that if the UBA has to scale up, it needs actual money after a certain point, and the deficit can't be covered with the blood and sweat of people who are willing and can afford to dedicate their lives to it ad infinitum. At least not in a capitalist context (another stale system which didn't scale).
I do applaud you and the people who go through it and I can agree that being somewhat of a survival of the fittest strategy, those who do make it through tend to be solid. Personally, the passion I chose to convert my time into money didn't need university at all (software development), so I skipped it altogether, but if I ever need a degree for anything, I'll sooner go to UBA as it stands right now than any of our private unis.
@@camtugueder You make some solid points. Although I think there are a few things you are not considering while evaluating the problem. One of the things I didn't mention is the fact that there is no way to live in the Uni. It's just not possible. And it's not designed for that either. It's more like a regular school, you go at the hours you have class and then leave (you can stay around if you want though). At 11 the uni closes it's doors.
Of course expenses diminish greatly that way. There are also no additional activities for free. You have to pay for them. They are pretty cheap (like half what you would pay outside, if you are a student) and the uni rents its structures to important sport clubs and the likes to cover maintenance expenses. Also, it's not that the teachers don't get paid, is just that they don't get paid much.
The most important fact you seem to be overlooking is that public education is funded by the state. Is not that nobody pays for it, but rather that the state designates a certain amount of funds to it. Of course, the state does not dedicate enough funds. They are alway cutting expenses. That's because the state's priorities are elswhere (mostly in dishonesty, corruption, and sustaining unsustainable policies for doubtfull reasons). But a functional state with good priorities, should have enough money to spend on a public education model. And it's obviously a magnificent investment both economically and in some other ways (like socially and culturally) to invest in education. Is just that, it is an investment on the long run. And corrupt governments want money now, not good long run policies for a future without them (them specificly I mean).
I'm sorry if I misunderstood anything you said. I'm kinda short on time.
Says the one who has a better college than the others like me
@@jayv8458 my point is that we should fight for a high quality public free and open education.
BTW, UBA accepts students from anywhere in the world without charging you a penny.
The fact that college/university is so pressed on kids from kindergarten (or sometimes preschool) on up is the main problem. So many people who aren't suited for college/uni end up going because 'that's what I'm supposed to do, right?'. Curriculum all around is not good. It's 'one size fits all' until non-mandatory education when it should be 'one size fits all' until the end of elementary (primary) school- no further! Middle school (ages 11-14) should be reserved for exploration of as many options as the kid wants. High school (ages 15-18) should be reserved for buckling down and preparing for EXACTLY what the kid wants.
Soooooooo many parts of the current system are archaic and broken... But the primary source for the lack of change is the 'everyone goes to college' mindset. That mindset *must* be abolished! Once basic education is separated from college/university, basic education won't have a single reason to force all students to focus on college/uni entrance requirements. If the individual kid will benefit from college, it's up to the kid to seek out solutions to the requirements (by all means, the kid can ask for help, but the point is to not force the decision anymore).
Presently, all schoolchildren are misrepresented, mistreated, and misunderstood. Such levels of disrespect should not be allowed to continue. It's time to undo the mistakes of the past.
HauntedShadowsLegacy I 1,000% agree with you. It’s my senior year and all through out my time during school I couldn’t do or research the things that I wanted to do because it’s not considered important enough. I’m not sure what I want to do because I have never gotten the chance to learn and research
HauntedShadowsLegacy I agree with this, I was pressured on getting a job back when I was 8, and with the many mental illnesses and problems I have now, I worry about that mostly every day, and I still have 6 years left until I graduate from High School.
Agreed. i already knew college wasn't for me when i enter high school in 2004. Everything i wanted to do i felt college wouldn't help me with and when i finally got to the point of attending a community college i knew my heart wasn't in the bullshit effort. i did the work in class, never checked it, only to turn it in and not care.
I was laughed at when i mention why can't college teach me EXACTLY what i wanna be instead of pointless extra shit i won't need?? I mean i enjoy learning when the information is something I LIKE not what the educational system think i like.
Kendyl Harrison i was in the same boat as well. i wanted to be a graphic designer my first year in college but midway through the year i knew i wouldn't do it so i twisted to small business only to be bored out of my mind. when i went home for the winter semester and read you really dont need a degree in business or liberal arts i knew it was my time to leave.
Tenderkats hang in there and once you're out of the educational system you will be free and be yourself.
Here's a simple test to determine if university education will be worth it:
- does your dream job (the one you're hopefully pursuing) require an academic certification? If so, go to university.
That's it.
If you just want to learn specific skills like welding or automotive, go to a technical school, not a university.
Also NEVER major in liberal arts. A gender studies degree will make you a less desirable candidate than someone without a degree at all.
I agree. Thing is my problem here, my choices are conflicting on whether i shuold be a pilot or a programmer.
Probably not a programmer, after realizing million upon hundreds of people would probably become one
They don’t even teach it well..
credentials is a scam. We're at point when credentials are valuable just because you beleive someone else think it's valuable, but not you. And the only real value - it's nice way HR's work less, by filtering on credentials. For no real reason.
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Try becoming a doctor with that mindset. Better yet, would you like it if you had heart surgery, and the surgeon wasn't certified and didn't go to med school but were hired to operate on you because they claimed to be "self taught"? Same goes for lawyers, accountants, engineers, teachers, etc. The "real reason" is that you just don't place certain responsibilities into the hands of people unless they have proper training, education, and certifications to show that they did. Businesses don't just hire anyone, they hire the best they can find. Filtering through credentials is extremely logical, and a good filter to start with in the recruiting process.
Davitski P would you prefer surgeon that have 4 year working experience or just graduated? Mmmmmmmm?
That is correct question.
I was wanting to go to college next year January, but after seeing this, it's change me to question my interests thank you so much for this, I hope that me being able to become whatever I want and the passion will be enough while it might be a bit slower passion is more powerful than just going to a place where you don't actually learn and are forced too.
When you mentioned the Aztecs there was a picture of Chichen Itza, which is Mayan :)
Did you learn that in your history degree :)
@@ThePresident001 Actually I learned that in elementary school :)
@pet detective Hahaha, really? They're completely different civilizations! It's like saying Greek are Romans.
@pet detective Who told you Mayans are Aztecs? and you believed it? hahahaha
@isaac ah yes, the floor is made out of ceiling
For people wondering, if they tell you that you need a degree it's usually an excuse to turn you away. I remember first long term job I got into didn't even look at my resume, at the end I even asked "Do you want to see it?" The guy said "No, just come to work next Monday." it paid more than some of the jobs that requires degrees. Usually the more remote it is the more you get paid, well, not like you need to go out when you have internet.
I'm really intrigued by this. And it is also believable. Separating the averages from the originals.
Thats why assassins are so expensive in Europe and Dirt Cheap in central africa.
The more popular a job, the less it pays.
I will be starting a new job in september as a commercial where i wll be paid more than all the job offers for accountants in the market right now where I live. The joke is that I required university to work as an accountant, the job i supposedly trained for, and nothing at all for the other. What a load of c***!
The big joke at my vocational school are all those students getting hired for entry jobs in IT, software development, etc... who get paid and experience on the job, while college graduates still need to get their certifications, be thousands in debt and get the same jobs which by the way often state on job postings: "bachelor degree or 3+ years EQUIVALENT EXPERIENCE" lol! Because while you wasted your time and money at uni, they got the equivalent experience on the job while getting paid.
The truth is that most people who go to college desire careers that don't require it. They pick a major that comes with a worthless degree, go into hellish debt, then wonder why they can't get a job. Unless you're going into the following fields:
-Medical
-Law
-Teaching
-Engineering
-Technology
you have no reason to go to college. It's a waste of time and money. Take a few classes online and get certified in your field.
Humorous LOL I keep telling my parents this for years but they still keep jamming college down my throat
blank blank System has drilled that thinking into us. Your parents are part of a generation that was told if they don't go to college they won't get anywhere.
Your #1 Fan maybe that’s how school shooters feel
This is false.. in order to go into finance or become a CPA you need a degree.
How do you get certified? They're saying I need a master's degree to be certified as a school counselor
After getting a university degree I couldn't find a job for a year, ended up scrubbing toilets as a housekeeper for years. Have never felt more lied to in my whole life as I wasted my 20's first getting a degree and then scrubbing toilets and making beds. Now I am a crypto millionaire and run a print on demand online business making $500 before even getting out of bed.
What you said is absolutely true in my experience! I've a bit different story, but summoning the determination to succeed is the greatest thing anyone can learn!!
Good video, well done!
Forget that. Go for a job that can pay the bills and get a hobby that you are passionate for. If you get good enough you might be able to make a career of it but you will still have that job.
IdkGoodName Vilius What’s stopping you?
HA, my hobby is flying. It is expensive. My bank account wouldn’t like me if I did that. So I went to school got a few degrees and now I fly for free, and I get paid to do it! Granted, it was expensive to get the degrees, but I have a second hobby, collecting knowledge, a byproduct is collecting degrees😂. I’m up to 4. 2 BS and 2 Masters. All because I like to study, and I like to fly.
@IdkGoodName Vilius If your hobby is programming, get a job that can sustain you and code from your home. Once you have a product you want to sell from said hobby, sell it and see how you did.
Rinse and repeat until your hobby can pay the bills well.
@IdkGoodName Vilius Well, it takes a lot of time to do most things, especially alone. But that is the one way you can work get the better of both worlds.
Exactly. This is what I tell people and the think I'm going to be miserable. When I finally comprehend this hard truth it actually made me liberated so it's all jokes on them if you ask me. Work is work and play is play.
DEBT.
PowahSlap Entertainmint *STOP*
D. E. B. T.
Call the media we have found The Reincarnation of Sherlock Holmes
In sweden University is free and i get paid 3000kr a month. Not enough to to afford to live in an appartment though, so still have to loan 6000kr a month (that is almost free of interest).
Attending a public university is Poland is free, wanna come here?
Fatima al-Fihri: Founder of the world's oldest university
In the Moroccan city of Fez, Fatima al-Fihri founded a mosque which developed into the famous al-Qarawiyyin university. Today it is recognized as the oldest existing university in the world...
Yes, the Christian world etc were miles behind the Muslims for centuries. In fact, if it wasn't for Muslim scholarship there is little chance the European enlightenment and, subsequently, modernity would have happened. Everyone has Islam to thank for that.
I really like your videos man. You're brilliant and always cover random and interesting topics. Things that I would never really find interesting, you somehow make fun to learn, and catch my intrest with.
Going to college was one of my biggest regrets. Luckily i got out early after my first semester because i realized how expensive it would have been if i stayed. Instead i got into this IT program for 6 months. Now I'm a making a decent living as an IT support specialist.
How did you pay for the IT program and what was it?
@@phoenixstormjr.110 The program was free. Actually they paided while i was in the program. The program was called year up.
@@stupid90able Thank you. I may try.
@@phoenixstormjr.110 You're welcome
Such smooth transition to an ad. Too smooth in fact
TOO SMOOTH
Kysurne wtfi didnt even see it
RUclips ad money sucks! He needs those Sponsorship money! Just try to understand that
Kysurne profiteering from education is morally corrupt. For further details, buy my book. A bad enough lurch, but going on to cherry-pick an unusual case of success against the odds stinks.
It has been planned for munths!
I took my degree in my mid-twenties. It was the best decision of my life. I have had a career for the past thirty years as a result. I also met life long friends and had an experience I would never wish to have missed. It saddens me that this is no longer the case.
What’s your degree tho
@@our.secret1130 I did a degree in Drama and later a post graduate qualification as a psychodrama psychotherapist.
@@Alun49 that is so remarkable! What a cool niche! Do you overall recommend the field of psychotherapy? I am heavily considering leaving my current path of study (speech pathology) for psychotherapist training. Thank you!
@@our.secret1130 I do, but the training can be expensive and can take a lot of time. I trained for five years, but that was in the 1990's. I have been a full time psychotherapist nw for over twenty years.
Omg, Dejoria’s story was so inspiring! Thank you 🙏
Is it normal if I don't have a dream job or any goals in life?
Yes. You are like most people. My sister got three college degrees while trying to figure out what to do with her life.
What did you like to do best when you were a child ??? And ... don't foget to check your report card and grades ...
That's the answer, right there !!!! Right there is !!!
If you dont know what you like, ask yourself why. It could also easily be that you in actuality would like to persue something that you think is not worth persueing. Or maybe you gave up in things whithout realizing . Take your time.
Follow your heart.
@@andi73c You can be good at something you dont like, and can be extremely interested in something you're not skilled at because you dont have the chance to practice it (mostly because it is unnecessary/ impractical). Skill level cant tell you everything
University: you cant enter you need money
Job: you cant enter you need college degree
Good thing universities in my country are free.
@@delf2731 yes but are they good, in my experience you can either get expensive and great or free and shit. the other problem is more competition for work, if everyone has a uni degree then the bar to enter jobs becomes higher and more people applying for jobs.
@@TheMagnay IDK on @Delf 's case, but in my country the best universities are the public ones. They're usually the ones with better chance of hiring. Of course what you make of uni is an important factor for future opportunities.
@@TheMagnay nah in Germany they are all free with only a few exceptions and most of em are really good. Just like free health care. We pay it off with slightly higher taxes lol. Why should education cost money anyways?? In Germany we have a law saying "education is free". It's just y'alls corrupted or whatever system in america that makes you pay...
@@Observa_ so here in Australia education is nothing upfront but you then you pay it back when you start earning over a threshold and it's not too expensive either. i prefer our system better as I'm not then paying for everyone elses education. especially education that they won't use. You will also find it cheaper as you don't have to pay it your entire working life. As i pensioner I'm entitled to free education though a college we call tafe, it's really good hands on training instead of lectures and they got campuses all around the country.
Just what I needed, thank you for this especially the story you shared. God bless
Rags to riches stories are inspiring bc they are so rare. For the majority, college gives a backup in case the unlikely career as a RUclipsr or entertainer or athlete doesn’t pan out. It offers the potential to work somewhere besides Amazon/Walmart/fast food, where you’ll be phased out by AI as soon as it’s cheap enough to not make shareholders angry. Like millions others, I went directly into the workforce and spent years crawling my way up, for the company to restructure my position into non-existence. Now I’m in school to learn software programming. What is needed is free undergrad school. Otherwise, millions of people will soon be dependent on universal income which will become necessary as the workforce switches to automation. This video brings up some issues that should be considered, but people need to fully research labor statistics before making decisions about education/careers.