The UGLY TRUTH About Tipping & Why You Shouldn't!
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- Опубликовано: 7 июн 2018
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The ugly truth about restaurant tipping and its seedy origins. And why you should abandon tipping for good.
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I always tip my hitman, love that guy.
You mean in the video-game Hitman, son? that's nice^^
Mine only gets a tip when he can actually kill me.
Do you use Jimmy on ninth street. I love that guy.
@@tayloryork8185 you use Jimmy too! Damn I haven't seen him in such a long time how is he?
@@louiswinters2265 I'm not legally allowed to talk about
Meanwhile in Japan: Giving a tip is concidered rude and an assumption that your boss isn't paying you well enough
in Japan
@@gyroscope8244 unfortunately, Japan also has its issues :'( namely stagnating birth rates, workaholism and suicide rates
@@Fak3Cake Not to mention the police have absolute power, pretty scary. Still a wonderful place though :)
US businesses have no qualms about not paying workers a living wage. They are very proud if they can get away with doing it, especially with the help of lawmakers in Washington DC to keep the working masses down.
it's the same here in Denmark.
*Hires Hitman*
*Pays minimum wage*
*Expects the victim to cover the rest of the salary via tips*
Don't go out to eat. Food cost margins at restaurants are slim. Sure they could pay their waitresses or waiters more but you would still pay. They are just gonna hike food costs. The fact that you want to be waited on hand a foot but not tip is cheat and selfish. Do really think a someone getting 15 dollars an hour only is gonna give you consistent effort. A some maybe. Tipping helps to keep them attentive as well.
Ultimately, customers pay for everything in any businesses venture. It's where the money comes from.
E.g. If you hire 1 server, you can't just decide to pay him 1 million a month. That money has to come from somewhere...it'll come from the customer.
There's two ways it'll come from the customer. Either the food worth $50 is priced at $999 950, or a tip of $999 950 needs to be given.
Either way, the customer is the only source of income for every single business that has ever existed since the begining of time.
It's not exactly rocketscience.
If you remove the customers, then there is no pay for anyone...becauae all pay ultimately comes out the pocket of customers.
Everything you have ever bought, indirectly helped compensate workers.
@@totalsavagepunk1240 I tip at restaurants because I'm "supposed" to because the cheap owners refuse to pay their staff a reasonable wage. What's the difference in paying more for the meal and tipping, which means paying more for the meal? I've never tipped a cashier at a grocery store. Why should restaurant staff be any different?
As an Australian, I've always found America's tipping culture baffling and downright insane. It's exactly like the video said - why should the customer be responsible to pay the wait staffs' wages? Like he said, it should be the employer's responsibility. Tipping should be for service that goes above and beyond and not a social obligation.
Cook at home dont go out n eat
@@eugenesanchez5114 shut up American, you're the odd one out
Nobody said it was an obligation. Waitresses make minimum wage here. I can’t agree with one damn thing about this video nor your statements. It’s a cultural different, and why should we oblige to yours? Each to its own.
@@vivienneduong6541 nobody said you had too just stay home and cook.You won't have too that's plain and simple common sense.
I agree Eva. I have worked as a bartender in both Australia and the UK. Any tip I received was for my performance in my role. When I worked in an establishment with a kitchen, tips were shared with kitchen, serving and bar staff. Tips should be there to encourage you to do a better job not pay for your job. One downfall not mentioned in the video is that some people tip barstaff and expect better pours of highshelf spirits or preferential service. I have even had customers ask for their tip to be returned because they gave more than they sensibly should have, I complied with the request. At the end of the day, I earned a decent wage tending bar and any tips I gained were a welcome bonus and not a right.
I'm so glad I'm not living in a country with this custom. We do sometimes say "keep the change" but only as a gratitude for a remarkable service, not as a mandatory thing.
Just like most conturies of Europe.
Pretty much all of europe
I live in the Washington DC area and my father is German. I have worked as a cook, waiter, bartender bouncer, and more in both Germany and the US. I know that many co-workers in the US have said that Germans are the worst tippers. I explain that they don't always know that they should tip. I know that the staff in Georgetown at many bars and restaurants intentionally provide poor service during the meals of Germans prior to presenting the bill because they already have an attitude towards them for not always tipping well. Therefore it causes problems as it is not like the Germans never tip. on some occasions they over-tip. It is a thing causing problems IMO. I wish tipping was banned as it causes problems, tension, and usually, the people who lose out are both the customer and the servers lose out since the awkwardness and math involved make life far more complicated. It should be the same non-tipping rule worldwide to stop these problems. It would improve life IMO.
Im american your not obligated to tip but remembrr most servers make$ $2.13 a hour si they live off tips
@@ChanaElisheva What in the hell are you talking about?? Maybe non Americans feel this pressure because they are not used to it... I'm a server, here in the USA, have been for years. Most Americans understand that servers don't make shit per hour and are more than happy to tip!
And seriously what a pompous and insensitive thing to say! That we OUGHT to be pressuring our employers? Is that what you did since your so quick to shame someone for following the rules and laws? Right, so you go ahead and try and see what happens. You be fired immediately! It's the waiters fault that there is "pressure" to tip....? Wow! So all the servers in all of America need to rise up right? Do you realize how utterly unrealistic and dumb that sounds?? The tipping laws have nothing to do with waiters and everything to do with politicians and I don't see a server revolution happening anytime soon. So until that happens do us a favor if your in America and tip your wait staff!
Im a cook, never been tipped BUT after preparing food for many people my favorite thing to do is to go to the restroom and just see everyone barely talking at all while scarfing down there meal and that feels way better than receiving a tip :3
I've tiped cooks before left em nice I was happy I've given to a kid that got me catsup packets outside a fast-food franchise oh no you don't have too he sead, so I sead take it or it going on the ground
@@billhillyer334 lol the forceful way ayy lol, and as for me now that ive had time to think on it and remembering one the one time I did get tipped though I was a casheer at the time im just glad I had been told about what happens if we accept tips sometime after I had accepted one rather than just dished out the punishment which is being fired or suspended untill further notice lol at the time i thought my boss was being nice and had caught this on cam and was giving a warning to me while explaining this to a small group of employees in a casual way now I see it was just random as my boss dosent really watch the cams mostly just blanks out while pretending to watch carefully XD though he is a great/nice guy saved my ass a few times even
That's what studies show about good waitstaff as well, not for the money in the moment while serving tables. I've been long on both sides and it feels the same while I do it. But on the other hand I'm a very good waiter and a very good cook and while the best, fastest cooks usually make say 10% more than other cooks, as a waiter you can make double the tips by being skillful and able to handle larger sections, turn tables quicker, etc. That was gratifying and I was the only one tipping cooks (part of why I could move faster as they cooperated with me perfectly and gave my orders precedence). Still, knowing the realities for so many others in the business I am willing to forgo the extra pay from tips because I have seen so many bad situations. At one place the women knew that unbuttoning an extra shirt button would raise their tips and if short toward the end of the month and rent due they would compromise their principles. That's in fancy places. In diners, etc, they have to take lots of abuse, unwanted sexual crap, and management that only plays the customer is right game.
Thats discrimination
@@ananda5502 yes, to say the least. That's the point of moving away from the system of wages based on tipping, because we can't handle it and reward sexual ego stroking more than table service. Why is that? Another discussion of our messed up system, about personal repression and lack of cultural evolution.
Been working in the restaurant industry for about 8-9 years in America, as a cook. I do appreciate you bringing up the disparity in wages between cooks/chefs and waiters its actually such a frustrating thing being in this industry. I can work for 8-10 hours and make about 80 dollars in some jobs after tax. Meanwhile a brand new waitress with no experience ive seen walk out with almost 400 dollars cash. Happens a lot and we never see an ounce of that money. I get that some people can be frustrating to wait on but for the most part people are very agreeable and easy to talk to. Walk back and forth with food and drinks with a smile - $400 dollars. Juggle 10 dishes at the same time in a 100 degree kitchen after prepping all day - Mehhhh 10-15 bucks an hour.
Well cooks don't get the same verbal abuse or physically grabbed by customers. The sexual abuse on the server side is common.
@@heraprincelol waiter spotted 😂,
I talked to an ex chef about this very subject. He told me that in recent times most restaurants will put all the tips in a pot and split the tip earnings evenly throughout all the employees, but its not mandatory with all restaurants.
Here's a 'tip'...become a server if you want more money. Why is this so hard?
I use to share my tips with the cooks. 🤷♀️
I know how to… grease the wheel to make everything run smoothly
It’s insane that a minimum wage for tipping actually exist. Just insane…
It's called greed and it is even more insane that some people believe YOU are responsible for ensuring the server can pay their bills.
It'd be insane to tip street sweepers, refuse collectors or go into restaurant's kitchen and tip the actual hardworking, underpaid chefs that cook the meal you came for in the first place. Just insane...
@@justinoo777cheap person here.
So this is almost quite literally a "damned if you do, dammed if you don't" type of situation.
Then I'd rather be damned while keeping my money
@@thao0226 Same.
Whatever happened to making someone's day?
@@amandamcnamara1617 When I need to be able to feed myself as well.
@channel break ......no.
Tipping should be voluntary and not seen as a social obligation.
Hey, Joshua Chandra, I heard a different history of tipping. Back when each upper class Brit had a staff: butler, cook, gardener, upstairs maid, downstairs maid, footman and carriage driver other noblemen staying overnight would leave a gratuity for personal service by someone else's staff. A social obligation.
This altered to personal service by someone else's employees. The employees of the beauty parlor or barber or restaurant are tipped, but not the owner doing exactly the same thing.
The middle class, wanting to be like the upper class adopted it too.
And so it goes.
Joshua Chandra I'm a waitress. I only make $2.14 an hour. That's why tipping is a thing because I don't make anything otherwise.
SFX Gore and More In the US? Where are you getting paid that much at? That is a new type of minimum wage. That’s not the customers problem, that’s the problem of your employers.
@@victoriawhite3594 That can't be in the US.. that or you work for someone under the table.
@@nicolekraft175 Under federal law, employers can take a tip credit by paying tipped workers, such as servers and bartenders, as low as $2.13 an hour if those workers earn at least the standard minimum wage of $7.25 an hour once their tips are added in.
I’ve had this exact conversation with friends only to get the eye roll. Tipping sucks so I rarely go out to eat because it’s offensive that I not only have to pay for my meal but also for the employee as well while the restaurant laugh its ass off.
This is the way , simply don’t go . You don’t enjoy the experience , other people do. Period . the end.
I understand tipping Is stupid but that doesn't change the fact that they are still getting paid a lot less then they should be. You not tipping doesn't do anything except make the wait staff hate you and not want you back there. That's their living, again, Ik it's stupid but that's how it is unless laws get changed. Food for thought.
@@inpiecesa1956 maybe read their comment again?
@@greenyoshi119 Maybe read mine again. I'm not starting anything just giving some thought on the situation.
@@inpiecesa1956 tipping allows mega corporations to continue underpaying workers
Having worked tipped positions & hourly positions - I can make WAY more money on a tip based pay scale. Tip based pay tends to reward hard work, competency & consistency. I've also known several people with degrees who waited tables or tended bar because they could make more than they did in their chosen profession.
That being said, the tipping system IS ridiculous when examined.
Tip based pay dont reward hard work. U just get paid for how well u can guilt trip a customer for not tipping. And I understand why u don't want tipping to go away coz u would fleece the customer of their money so that u get more un-taxed money. After all, tipping started as a form of bribery.
@@adityaneer i hate taxes, you cia glow in the dark black fellow
Couldn't agree more. Where I come from, you can earn a way better income from a tipped job. Also, I haven't been to the States, so I can't compare prices, but I'd say the customer still pays for the waiter's wages. Remember, everybody's wages are included in the price of the food and drinks. You just won't get to choose how much goes directly to the one serving you.
Indeed. Recently, I demoted myself from mgt. to server because I was making approx. $6/hr. less as a mgr. than I am now making being a server.
People make more money off tips where I live as well...but that's because people don't pay taxes for their tips.
Once covid hit, many restaurants closed down and many service workers lost their jobs and had to go on unemployment.
The amount they got is based on how much their actual salary was, not how much they got under the table.
This also becomes a problem when taking out a bank loan or during retirement. (either due to old age or sickness)
Customers often hate this system as we are already paying extra for the food in a restaurant, or even more if we order in, as there is also a minimum order and delivery fee and we are also expected to tip our waiter a decent ammount, just for doing their jobs.
So its bad for the employee, its bad for the customer, so who does this system help?
The owner.
Owners don't need to pay a decent salary, because "you will get more money out of tips". Customers are essentially paying the staff, while also paying premium prices for the food.
I live in France and tipping is mostly done as a reward for good service to the chef, waiters, and so on. Not as a social requirement or unspoken rule.
oddly enough never actually tipped a chef... you dont really get to see them and there was probably 5 of them who prepared your meal although i imagine they make more than the servers so i dont think there too fussed ...i hope
i may have to buy a round of drinks for the kitchen next time i get a nice steak
@@Sarge92 This is true, but I find it unfair that only the waiters and waitresses get a bonus when all they do, really, is take your order, serve the food, and smile. The chef has the most important role in a restaurant...
Same in Poland. Tips are just a token of gratitude for outstanding service.
Same in spain
I'm American and it's basically the same. We tip based on the service we recieve
When you said the part about cooks not getting the recognition they deserve i felt that lol. I make $9.00 an hour and i'm a cook. There was a server that walked out tonight with $300 in tips. After me working 8 hours i made $72 before taxes and she made that much (not including her $4.50 an hour wage) even though she worked 2 hours less than me. Makes sense she makes a shitload more than me for the food i cook right?
zio420 that's certainly a bold claim, why is he a weak idiot?
Yes, I'm a server and I ask cooks all the time why they don't serve and they all promptly say that they don't want to deal with people.. Remember we make $2.23 and hour and we DO want to deal with people.
When did people stop tipping cooks for an excellent meal? My first 'time clock' job was at an eating establishment. The waitresses got the majority of the tips but many times the cook got tips and occasionally the bussers would get tips too. If someone does a good job but is in a low paying job, you tip them. No tipping is just Communistic.
*equality*
I feel you bro it isn't right.
we confuse our local eatery with the strip club lol that just made my day
I await narrative videos.
So don't tip in strip clubs also?
When the waitress wear half nothing it's like a strip club
There was a waitress at one of the places I worked that made sometimes $800-$1k on a double shift. And we weren't even that fancy of a restaurant. Probably about 15 to $30 a plate. But we had a massive bar with hundreds of beers and excellent horderves.
Granted she made that kind of cash on game days for the football team of a college renowned for it's football. And we were right outside the gates of the college. So we would be absolutely slammed from 10:00 a.m. to about 12:00 a.m.
It didn't hurt that she looked like she should be carved into the front of a ship (I told her that) and she could remember everything everyone ordered at a table of eight or less.
Ahhh Tiffany - you gorgeous and brilliant creature... I hope life has treated you well.
You're telling me you were there from 10 in the morning to 12 midnight? That's crazy.
Golden gophers suck. Jk. Don't Care pac12
The money is due to long hours , backbreaking work, and her youthful good looks ? Yeah, that's a lifetime plan.
This absurd ..your in the crazy house now
Lol it was only based of her appearance. When I’m drunk with my friends I also tip pretty girls well
I'm Portuguese and tipping is not a thing here. When I first heard of it my thought was: "so it's the costumers duty to pay the employee? I thought the person who employ you was supposed to pay you. Who came up with this nonsense idea some deadbeat employer shrugging of his responsibilities?"
South African here, and I agree. We don't really do that here, it's not the customer's duty to pay the employees of a restaurant.
Catarina here hit the nail on the head with a sledgehammer xD
EXACTLY!!!
I'm Malaysian, its all the same
At the restaurant I work at or previously worked at starting wage for a cook is $11 an hour the servers or waitresses and waiters receive $3 an hour plus tips and it actually averages out over a year
One of the fears of going to america, that just sounds like extra anxiety fuel
"Did I tip enough?"
"Should I tip?"
"Fuck, I forgot to tip"
" *When* do I tip?"
20% is a good baseline. More for exceptional service, less or none for crap service. Bear in mind that if the restaurants had to pay their staff their full living wage, the food would be more expensive. They still have to make a profit. With tips, the difference is that you have some control over what the service costs you, and you can pay based on your own judgment of its quality.
@@joesterling4299 If I have to pay 50 cents more a burger so the game making it doesn't need to work 2 jobs just to make rent, why the fuck not?
@@01_mikoru93 But it wouldn't. Competent staff would still make about the same money at best. The only difference with a service charge replacing gratuities is that the staff would no longer have an incentive to provide good or pleasant service.
@@joesterling4299 or just 0%
@@joesterling4299 I live in Europe and never tiped, when I go to the usa I’Il probably totally forget it and get an angry look from a random waiter/waitress without even realising why i get that look... I don’t want to deal with having to pay 2 times, once for food, once for the waiter/waitress, idc about there service, i care about the food and drinks
"To insure promptitude"...this reminds me of the people that pay amusement parks extra to cut in line..basically paying to cut in line because they're better than everyone else (in their own mind, at least)
Tf? Why not pay extra for fast pass tickets if you have the money? How does that make someone stuck up?
Tep?
Wow!!! I've always thought, deep in my mind, that serving is actually slavery. And now this video, knowing the story for the first time in my life, confirms my thinking. You're basically working for free (they made it legal by paying servers $3 an hour), and you get paid by the customer. Why can't the restaurant owner pay their employees? Why do I have to pay them for the owner? Wtf?
Exactly!
Yes. It is sad.
I prefer dealing with people who've been FUCKED before
A silly thing about tipping is that it is based on a percentage of the cost of the food. As if the waiter worked harder to bring a $25 steak to the table than a $7 burger.
It's more to reflect the amount of people at the table/numbers of items they need to deliver.
Agree. I hate when I’m at a more expensive restaurant where a server will make $10 for bringing out our food, whereas a diner waitress who is working twice as hard would likely be tipped $3-4 just because the food is cheaper.
Well actually maybe the waiter did work harder if you came in for a $7 burger but he upsold you to a $25 dollar steak. Just saying
SCREAMIN' LORD BYRON he worked harder for the restaurant not me. The restaurant should tip him for convincing me to buy something more expensive.
So if I sell tires and I am compensated based on commissions should I be payed if I sell nothing?
It’s a simple concept.
They don’t just bring you food. They are Independent sales people.
Many many times the wait staff have influenced my dinner decisions.
They do impact how much I spend but not always.
This video totally ignores the facts
Most people who visit the USA from the EU were tipping isn’t a thing Really
Notice how much better the service is here in USA.
I'm glad I don't live in a place where tipping culture is a thing. Imagine your employer actually paying your wages. Crazy, isn't it?
I get just over minimum wage. I make tips on top of that. I only make $30,000 a year. I went to school to do my job. In the USA we can't make enough unless we wither get tips, or your bill is way higher
@@Atticblood What does "enough" mean to you? If you apply for a job that pays minimum wage, do you expect to get paid more than minimum wage?
@@eneco3965 if I went to college yes. $30,000 is not shit when you have adult bills, kids, gas, and such.
@@Atticblood Some would ask why you have kids if you can't afford to pay your bills, gas and such.
I'm glad I don't live in a land of self-superior dipshits who are so sure of themselves they tell the rest of the world how to live and react with hate to any societal difference.
I'm talking about western Europe, of course.
At the diner I worked at, we split the tip equally between ALL employees. Every time an employee(s) began or ended their shift, the tips were split.
Just moved from the US to Italy. It’s so liberating to not stress tipping as it’s already integrated into the bill.
Always great and informative videos found here. Too bad learning in school wasn’t as enjoyable as this! Thanks for assisting with my continuing education!
Japan has it right, giving money is a charity.
I didn't sign a contract, I didn't hire the waiter, and I can't fire them.
The restaurant should be liable for hiring and paying good workers.
Agreed.
And many people have a cheap attitude. They want good service, not to tip, and to be able to use groupon at the same time. Restaurant business can be tough. You want better wages for servers, but will you pay more for a meal?
@@kickinrocks6055 Isn't tipping just showing gratitude? Aren't servers hired to provide service? Its not a cheap attitude as it is not wasting money. I'm not going for a resturaunt for food, then giving extra money to people for doing the job they were hired to do. Tip as much as you would like, thats you, but personally perfer to not throw away money like that.
Name of the last beat 19:58 ?
You are sitting down while a waitress or waiter serves you're every need. Tip the person or don't eat out
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That hit hard.
What?! you managed 1% ?!!
Didn’t ask
Pradyumna Shetty oops edited it.
Joe M. Didn’t ask you to answer what I had to say.
So very right on, Thoughty2!!! I feel totally as you do, here in the US is a horrible practice and then people wonder why no one wants to work in the restaurant industry. Restaurant owners in general (not all) are a bunch of bunch of cheapskates who want to be make a handsome profit on the backs of their poor (literally) workers. Let's abolish tipping!!!!
Fuck you. You must not work for tips
42, you did an excellent job presenting all of the issues with tipping versus salary and all of the points that I was attempting to comment on while watching your video.
So, great job!!!
Tipping should be abolished and pay the wait staff an actual living wage. Plus tip theft by the owners is rampant.
There is that. And By other waitresses.
Nah, that would result in a severe drop in pay for most service industry workers.
No one's gonna volunteer to clean up after your ass for the same money they can make working for Walmart or Amazon.
@@toddfluhr4655 that doesnt make any sense what's so ever 7 dollars is over 2 dollars
@@someguynamedsteve203 it makes sense because with tips the average tipped employees makes over $20/hr.
Take away the tips, every decent server and bartender walks.
@@toddfluhr4655 and if that doesn't happen. What then?
It's still a tipped position there just gonna go hungry
Here in italy tipping is optional. It's like a direct compliment to the servers themself rather than the whole company.
Some servers are grumpy, other ones are just as cold as robots, and them there are the very friendly ones that threat you like an old pal even if it's their first time they see you. It's usually the latest one that gets tipped. And it usually happens behind their back because getting tipped in persons is really awkward for both side.
Unfortunately this allows servers to steal tips that were not meant for them. And they get caught only if the same costumer meets the same server and the tip is mentioned.
It happened once at my workplace and the thief got fired.
Same as the UK
I live in England and it's scary how accurate this is.
For delivery drivers, tipping is essential.
I have been saying all of this for years. Especially the "you pay more and they earn less part" Thank you for this psa
*Promotes patreon at the end*:
Me: “Hold on this whole operation was your idea*
You have a point, but I don't think it's the same.
You see RUclips will pay less than a penny per view so instead of 70 percent of his pay being through tipping it's 99% :D
Totally. How hypocritical. Don’t ask for people to support you on patreon if you don’t want tips. Why should anyone pay to listen to your stupid opinion. We all can listen to those for free.
@Jason Strom So more like 100%?
Yall need to chill the fuck out, it's a damn joke
In the UK it is illegal to include tips and overtime in the National Minimum Wage.
Unfortunately though, tips are a taxable income. Which is kind of ironic. They can't be used as wages because there's no guarantee you get them, but the Government are allowed to tax you on it? A tip is nothing more than like giving a friend a fiver or something, the Government shouldn't then be allowed to take that fiver and give £3.50 back because "income tax".
Tips are often cash and I doubt anyone monitors this, however if deemed free from tax there'd be loop holes that the rich could exploit and money laundering becomes easy 'just the tip'
I worked at a certain red roofed pizza kingdom for about 2 years. Worked all shifts available at a dine in or carryout only location with a buffet. I'd almost always come in 2 hours early to start prep before i was supposed to clock in just to have the time to do the prep for the day. That involved cutting all the onions and tomatoes, making pastas, proofing pizzas, preparing pizzas for the buffet, food temp checks, food date checks, etc.
I got tipped maybe 3 times.
just stumbled upon this while scrolling through the channel,
i’m from germany, i feel like tipping is slowly dying out over here too.
Only people i know who, almost, always get tipped are the pizza delivery boys.
Stoned people like to give away stuff i guess.
Also, thank you for thinking about the chefs…. or culinary gargoyles lmao.
I set myself ablaze once or twice during my apprenticeship just to get the dish out in time.
Never got tipped, all i got was yelled at.
Seeing how that didn’t change in the last few years, i‘d say being a Chef truly is a thankless job lol.
When I was working for the large pizza delivery franchise, I found that rich people, with gates more expensive than my car, didn't tip and even wanted their penny change back too. But it was the poorer people that tipped. I would tip as the wages are crap.
How do ypu think they got rich in the first place
This is still very true. I’m a general manager of one of the big 3 pizza places and the rich ppl still don’t tip or tip horribly.
Lol...i noticed that too.
I had the opposite experience personally.
*Rough town*: more crime and drugs, definitely less wealthy. Would get stiffed on deliveries constantly, paid in bags of coins that came short, biggest tipper was a legendary $20 every few months outside the allowed area but the manager let us take it anyways (cool👍) .
*Woodsy/Suburb Area*: ordered only10 minutes down the road, apologizes for the long drive & tips generously. Just saw a $40 tip today 16 mile round trip + minimum wage :p Crazy people but gotta love em.
It’s probably due to experience in the service industry that allows an understanding of how to actually tip.
I simply don’t go out to eat anymore. By the time you add tip and tax it adds 30% to your bill. I like the European system. Price includes tax and tips not expected. Round up tipping is fine
,...and income taxes, federal + SS+ medicare+ state...often also add up to 30% or more. Does that mean you stop working too? If you want to save money, then sure, don't eat out. But you can also do what the rest of us do, and just multiply the price on the menu by 1.3 to figure out what eating out really costs.
@Jyoeru Zaberu if in the end your going to pay the same price why bother?
Jyoeru Zaberu
That burger better be made out of gold.
@Jyoeru Zaberu no one pays 30 bucks for burger in Europe,from 5 to 10£ everything included!
@Jyoeru Zaberu This is one of the reason why other system are better because everything you pay for is directly shown witch then prevent this kind of "if it's not on the bill then i don't have to pay for it" mentality.
And yeah in the end if you have the chose between paying 30$ straight or 15$ and have 15$ of tips it's the same price. It's basically the whole 15$+shipping vs 30+no shipping thing.
When I have received a meal that was particularly delicious and a particular part of it was the standout, I will sometimes ask whoever made it to come to the table and I'll then personally hand them a tip. On average I'll give them $20 on top of the 15 to 20% I give the wait staff. Admittedly that's a rare occasion, and it's typically only at a steakhouse or fancy restaurant where the chef or cook can really shine.
i love this video you got so many great informations in here
Started out as a bribe for expedited service, now makes up for sub poverty wages.
As well as low paid workers in places like Mc Donald’s etc being expected to graft for tips they are also expected to claim tax benefits for receiving less than a living wage. Last year McDonald's made a profit of 37 billion dollars. Why are these companies allowed to screw the taxpayers over rather than pay a decent wage?It may not be brain surgery but it still must be tiring and boring and fulfilling a service.
Right? How can anyone live on $28 dollars per hour!?
Sub poverty wages ? Lmao tell that to homeless people who dont have jobs
@@wizkid2000 Yeah what they showed at 14:58 utterly undermined the video's argument.
@@lucilledelorme What McDonald's have you been to where tips are acceptable?
Hitman: That’s 400,000 dollars for the target.
Me: slips him an extra 20 dollars on top of the 400,000
Hitman: [Crying] Thank you.
Basically lol
UniverseNerd It’s a joke
@@leboiofbois1005 yeah, i realize, that's probably why i deleted it
UniverseNerd it’s a f-ing joke
@@maxpayne4107 why are you mad at me, you didn't even see my original comment, i didn't get the joke yet, until i saw the hitman part of the video
I heard stories of staff running outside after the customer for the tip. Yikes.
Wooo, i would freak out and start running too!
Here in Australia we don't have automatic tipping and most people don't tip most of the time. But most cafes and restaurants have a tip jar on the counter and we do like to tip places where we're regulars or when things are better than expected. The tip jar is basically always split between the staff from what I've heard.
Tipping is also an insult in Iceland
I don't normally tip in the Iceland shop
That's because Iceland knows how to guarantee the dignity of its citizens. It doesn't leave them to the mercy of tipping. Great country and great people.
Idk I dont dare step in that chavvy supermarket
And China to the waiters/waitress it is demeaning to the staff who think it's the wage of a 'bar girl.'
Japan also has a stigma against tipping, good service is expected, but some places like a hotel or bar may add a gratuity fee to the bill.
Let get to the real issue and just get workers to pay better wages
The real issue is getting the government and corporations separate. The corporations have WAY too much political power so this is why all this is allowed. We are getting screwed over because of corrupt government whose pockets get lined by corporations and their corrupt lobbying.
You want workers to pay better wages? Lol. Anyway.
You're a fucking commie, and I'm Eastern European. You don't have the fucking right to tell anyone how much they should pay someone else. That makes my blood boil. If you don't like the money don't do that job, simple as that. You need to watch his video about stupid people. That's you.
Or just establish communism
@@fuckjewtube69 We fought to use that word. You don't get to use it
How about only going to those maverick restaurants who say "don't tip, we pay our employees well."
Or socialism, and then you can spend your guaranteed annual income any way you want, earned from your country's resources and services which the elite mistakenly believe is theirs.
You can keep the communism.
People act like I'm Satan when I express that I refuse to tip because I don't believe its my responsibility to pay some companies employees... not that I go out often shit I struggle to pay my bills
Thanks for recognizing cooks in this. We're always forgotten. Sure it generally pays a bit more then minimum but no tips.
All the dislikes are from people who live on tips
True
@marcus24000 Its literally slavery just with extra benefits and you actually get to go home at the end of the day.
And all the likes are people who have never worked in the tipping industry in their life. So what’s your point?
Yeah, be mad at the symptom instead of doing something about the problem.
And they miss the point. Their boss is the ass, not the customer.
It's not the customers responsibility to provide for the waitress, thats the employers job.
Id much rather pay a bit more for a meal than having to "pay" 2 times. Inconvenient useless habit that should die out.
Thays already how it works. Tipping isnt mandatory and its only 10-15% on top. Unless you eat out often and with parties of a few people each time its really not that big a proce to pay. While I agree its an awful and archiac system, I am more than happy to pay into it because at the end of the day people have bills to pay. If you dont like it dont eat at restaurants. Go to McDonald's or something, or better yet buy ingredients and learn to cook at home for 10x less.
@@GarlicGrinder9no - if you don't like it, just don't tip. Else this custom will stay forever. If you tip you encourage the low wages of staff in the back (who worked their ass off to get there - in contrary to the servers).
RCRDC X why can't people understand this. Tipping is dumb af.
Including tips as someone's salary is just an excuse to pay them less
@@GarlicGrinder9 20% is customary.
Funny story, I was chased out once (a fairly long time ago) for not leaving a tip in a burger restaurant. Though I did come late and I was the only one there (With a friend) so I guess they were expecting especially that I'll be giving a generous tip for the service, lol... yeah :-/
Wow, that's the absolute worst kind of customer lol.
What's that, fired and grilled
i dont care what the server looks like or their skin color, i tip solely on service and personality. also i almost always leave a tip of some sort
We don't tip in Australia but we have really good wages and pay awards for overtime, public holidays and weekends. Some Americans are on very low wages and rely on tips to get by.
Please watch the entire video.
charlie saville sorry but I got extremely bored after 15:00 😆😆
charlie saville so I watched the rest and he gave a piss poor excuse as to why you shouldn't, then says in some cases you should, then asks for Patreon dollars 😆😆 this channel used to be good.
And you used to be 14, now you're 16. Case closed, move on.
The Gunman wish the U.S. could adapt progressive wages. Instead we have a 7.25 and hour federal minimum wage. That’s a little over 14k a year ( 13k with taxes taken out)
In Australia you don’t tip
You just let them keep the change
Lucky you
Keep a 1¢ change
That's what I usually do
Because we're on a decent award wage.
I use credit card
2.13 an hour. Tipping is such an American institution they get away with paying that
I wouldn’t worry your little head too bad about it. A good sever can flip 4-6 tables an hour. At an low average $5 tip at each table, that’s nearly $30 an hour made on those tips. Unless you are a shitty server, you will make good money. The restaurant owners know this and so does the government. That’s why servers only make $2.13 an hour. What do you want them to make? $100k a year for waiting tables?
The saddest part is how they use "tipping" as a perk now. It's even written on my local Starbucks' door. They'll post like 25 cents above average PLUS TIPS in capital letters. Yeah no wonder the minimum tip is 20% and goes to 45% and the baristas look pissed when you select "No tip", they're sold to the fact that they'll make 2-4$ for every overpriced coffee sold.
The only time I ever consider tipping is at a sit down restaurant and get regular visits from the waitress.
Elvis was just being kind to his limo driver because he had the money and he was a kind man. That was all there was to it.
Elvis was not a kind man
Thanks Simon.
@@Aashishkebab one of Elvis's later drummers told me that people say what they want about Elvis but he really was a kind man. His name is Larry London and his story about Elvis was inspirational.
But I don't mean to argue with you there are different perceptions.
Always someone complaining, nothing to worry!
I agree and all but what's the man gonna do with a limo?😂 I wouldn't know what the hell to do with it.
I am a chef and is tiresome how some waitress think the customers come to one place merely because of how "good service" they give, and I'm burning my hands back in the kitchen thinking, WHO THE F made the food that is being consumed? IF people come to a "restaurant" mostly because of how they are being treated then we are talking about another type of business, but for sure not food industry.
Restaurants are not always about the food, sometimes it is how it makes us feel.
Good food for me is highest priority and reason sometimes i tolerate horrible service, but not for everyone.
@@xaddrfehr4593 You said it yourself Food is the highest priority. I dont know what you are trying to argue here. Good food is at the number one of the reasons why people go to a restaurant. PERIOD. if you want to feel good and being caressed go to a spa or a massage place.
@@thivan233 For me it is, but for many people is not, that was my point.
Going to a restaurant is important part of many peoples social life and there are many factors that decide why people choose certain place: location, ambient, hospitality of the staff, friend influence etc..
That 'special' servers will always exist, so i understand your frustration. But in the end, the more motivated they are to give good service, the more business you have.
@@xaddrfehr4593 I think for the majority is about the food.
if is not, don´t go to a restaurant to not appreciate the work of the person making your food, choose another place, good service it is required across the board for good business, that doesn't mean that the secondary element of a restaurant experience is more important than the primary element, neither are more important so why pretend like customers come here because of my good service and not for the food.
I've even gone back to restaurants with dogshit service because the food's good. I've worked in a kitchen and it can be horrible but the free food whenever you want (when the manager ain't looking) is as good of a tip for me. Don't have to worry about lunch or dinner so that's a good 20-35 bucks saved right there. It's different for everyone obviously but me personally, never minded no tips, because all of us kitchen staff know how hot them plates can get when the servers come to pick em up😂😂
I'm mexican and there's another consequence of the US tipping system that happened through tourism: some cities with heavy tourist traffic some service business owner have been trying to apply this system to the service workers here. On one hand, legally they can't do that, minimum salary is the same here regardless of the type of work you do, BUT, because not many people are educated enough to know about this (the influence of american shows and movies certainly doesn't help) some employers take advantage to make people agree to some this type of employment, and because of tipping american tourists they get away with it.
The kicker? Many times the tips are not fully given to the workers!! The owner will demand the tips to be accounted for, and in the spirit of supposed fairness, the employer will distribute the tips among all waiters and sometimes kitchen staff, but they still get the bigger cut from the total.
Seriously stop tipping, at least outside the US.
I grew up in Montana, where there is no tipped wage. Then I moved to Arkansas for a few months, where my wage was $2.68 an hour. I can tell you that was the grossest restaurant I've ever worked. No one cleaned. For $2.68 an hour, I show up. That's it, I'm not doing any thing else.
I remember when tip jars started showing up at Burger King counters. Yikes.
Ok that's too much they dont do crap but they're exact job😂
tipping in burger king not in this life time
What's a matter? You don't like tipping some runny nosed teenaged goth freak for taking your order and then serving you all without actually doing much of anything but getting your order wrong? Fucking prima donna right here, lol!
I've never,ever tipped at mcd or bk.
I get tipped all the time I’m at the first window where everyone pays most of the time and I get on average about $7 a day in tips I know it’s not much but for a McDonald’s employee that’s something... and on Christmas this guy paid with a $100 bill and tipped me $40 for working on Christmas
I wouldn't want the majority of my wages determined by the generosity of humanity.
Well then its a gokd thing most people do it because they feel morally obligated to because of your rediculously low pay.
People are selfish shit. They sooner watch you drown than throw you a rope. Humans are parasites
I prefer it, I can't hardly find a job that pays me half of what I make as a server.
@@deadinside8542 Yeah,and not just to other humans,but also the world,aka planet earth.And later on,the moon,mars...
Exactly! Have you MET people?
As someone from Nz where we don't tip, I have been saying this for years.
I'm so glad I live in Washington state at a company where tips arent expected, just appreciated.
An interesting thing I noticed about my customers specifically is that they leave more tips the more incredibly informal I am (still friendly). Rules are pretty loose and I can basically say whatever I want to customers, so I've been playing around with how "human" they want me to be. They seem to very much appreciate my full transparency, even jokingly shunning their product choices haha, I love my customers. It's like a little community of friends there.
You serve on an hourly rate? That sucks
As a former waiter and bartender, I completely agree that it’s unfair that restaurant owners pay their employees less than minimal wage. The restaurant industry is full of unfair practices from lacks of breaks to lack of leave (a lot of restaurants pay employees under the table to avoid taxes also workers rights)....I am so happy to be out....
server often make more than the restaurants management team. your wrong, and it's all in the tips/
circusboy90210 Where is your credibility to challenge a former service worker?
True! I live in Florida and a huge amount of restaurant will ONLY pay under the table. I've worked at four restaurants that tried me with that under the table crap and quit all of them in less than a week. Where have all the real jobs gone?
Correct me if I'm wrong but.
RUclips = Tight-fisted company not distributing pay.
Viewers = Tippers via Patrio donations.
Is that right?
Martin Boylan get back on line son or you'll be demonitized!
Fucking smart as hell, lets go on a strike against youtube
Yep, I'm putting Adblocker back on, if tipping's not a good idea.
RUclips is a platform. They don't employ people that post on RUclips(most of them anyways). People that post on RUclips are their own business that make money through advertisers or direct contributions. A good analogy at face value but disingenuous.
RUclipss system is far from perfect but I can't think of anything where people from around the world can come together and have these types of topics discussed at length. Videos like this from talented youtube's are so important and I can't get enough of this type of thing.
Here in Saskatchewan, the waitress “act” super nice , laugh at all your jokes and seem genuinely interested in anything you say, almost like they are your best friend, then as soon as you give a tip they completely change and seem like they have forgotten the last 30-60mins of interaction. I know it’s a bloody game and they can’t keep paying attention to you the whole time but it’s literally the moment they get paid , it’s off to the next customer . So I’m absolutely done with tipping. Thanks Thoughty2 for opening my eyes 👀 up or should I say validating what I was already thinking.
As a former server and cook I can say that both jobs have their struggles the cook has to slave in the kitchen while the server is juggling literally dozens of requests during the rushes and either falling behind causes the entire thing to fall apart
Your point being?
That’s not the customers’ fault at all, and so it shouldn’t be their problem either.
This is so fascinating. Having grown up in Wisconsin (USA) with a minimum wage of $2.33 for tipped employees, I never thought about any of this. That said, not tipping your server when you know they’re making $2/hour is a pretty cold thing to do just out of principal. Definitely a change that needs to happen from a governmental level to make employers just pay what employees deserve and copy Japan’s system.
I thought this was about cow tipping.
Dude. Im not tipping you unless you go out of your way for some reason. Even then. I dont want you to. Just walk to the kitchen and get my food its not that hard. Ill do it myself. I dont even need you to bring me my food. Ill tip the chef if the food is in my opinion good.
Here in Canada waiters/waitresses now get $15 an hour. And prices on the menu have gone up because owners now pay waiters more. But they still expect the tip. Actually they expect 15% now. And if you walk into some restaurants as a group of 6+, they will add 18% tip to your bill automatically !
@@dewmontain123 So in an industry where people deal with some of the worst of humanity and don't make a living wage, you think being a cheapskate helps the situation?
If they don't get tips, they get full minimum wage. Tipping is literally theft committed by businesses.
Tipped minimum wage is EXACTLY why I keep tipping in the US. My first time there in '99, I was at a diner with 5 friends, and all the servers were Barbie dolls with fake smiles who steered clear of us. Maybe because we were a group, maybe because we were all big, bearded men, speaking a harsh, guttural language (Dutch). But this one lady was like 40-something, and gave us the best service I we ever had. Turned out she was a single mom with 2 boys in High school and a daughter in college. So we just pooled ALL of our money on the table (Maybe $900, IDK) for school supplies. We had planned to go out later, but just stayed in the hotel and watched reruns on TV instead...
That was incredibly nice of you! From the sound of it, she seems like the kind of person that would share the wealth as well.
@@TheCalmPsycho It was a group decision. We figured that if that daughter could make it through college, she could get a good career, and not have to bust her ass for peanuts like her poor mum.
Good guys
Wow. Thanks man that's a lot of money for a tip
And the tipped minimum wage exists BECAUSE people like you keep tipping
I like your stuff Thoughty. Funny guy. Keep doing it.
Tipping is an archaic concept and needs to be done away with in the US. A fixed-rate service fee included with the bill fixes all of the problems with tipping. If the service is very poor, the customer can bring the issue to the manager and request the fee to be removed.
"America leaves an astonishing 40 billions in tips"
Me: Ohh that's all because of Mr Beast
Haha
@Eric Flaquer ohh that's a lot xD
@Kyle O'Connor What does the Freemason thing have anyting to do with this issue?
@Eric Flaquer You need to remove huge donations made by politicians / big companies to further their own career + laundry money. The USA is well know for for big n°1 in this field. No hate just pointing this out.
@Eric Flaquer Yes, I'd remove it from other countries too, this is not charity but corruption, the large majority of funds don't go to people in need but the people at the top of said corrupt organization.I forgot to add rich people use charities to dodge taxes too and sometimes fund violent/disrupting groups to divide or hurt people (ex : Wall Street paying off SJWs to divide people while pretending to be good).
US people's charity comes from expandable wealth, the more you have the more likely you are to give (for instance, I got some work recently and I immediatlely gave back, it's a universal trait).
Again, I'm not throwing shade on the average Joe but the number you gave doesn't take into account the many variables I mentioned. Also, the actual amount spent by the richest is peanuts compared to benefit they'll make. Most of them are not doing from the goodness of their heart.
I don't understand why people keep missing the point. Tips should be something VOLUNTARY, to compensate for an extra good service, not a percentage of the bill you feel compelled to add if you don't want to be frown upon. The problem is waiters and waitresses for some reason are paid below the minimum wage, which makes no sense to me. If they were paid a reasonable salary they wouldn't NEED tips, they could earned some extra for extra effort if the client feels like it. Now you get it?
The employers should pay the bill. It's that simple. It's really disgusting that this law exists. If I tip I want it to be an extra on top of what they earn- NOT a necessity.
charlie saville exactly! that is how it should be. this current situation is disgusting
sergio fcastillo yes, but not tipping is NOT how you fix it. you hurt the server not the restaurant. want a change? lobby for law changes in server wages.
It is ALREADY voluntary you idiot. No one has to tip. Tipping is already optional.
Brand284848 is the insult necessary? Seriously, do you think that is a way to adress an stranger? Lame.
I think this is your best video yet! Great job. Thank you.
. . . . . . not good enough for me to give you any money, but still, pretty good.
I loved your Mr. Pink reference. That is one of the best monologs in cinematic history.
Yes ban tipping. It’s your bosses responsibility to pay you more not mine!!
You think like a socialst....it is not right! That man works FOR YOU! He serves your needs. So you should pay him/her!
sorindncs Wrong!! I’m a paying customer I already paid for my meal and he gets paid to bring me my food. Go cry to their cheap boss!!
@@sorindncs I already paid him/her by paying for my meal. That is their $2/ hour. So it's up to their greedy boss if they want to pay them more or not. Why should I have to pay them twice? I'm not their employer. When I go and buy a tube of toothpaste at walmart the amount I pay is already predetermined, I don't go and pay money to the toothpaste factory workers after I already paid money to get my stupid toothpaste. What kind of stupid system we live in where we have to feel guilty for using basic logic as opposed to wasting time and money on something stupid.
@@maskedmolereviews5715 it is for the quality service, if you don't want to tip go to McDonald's or get your food to go. Do you want the prices of your food to go up and have the server make less money and then your service to go down? Sounds like you are just cheap,
@@ask-mw5hk you sound like the cheap one, if they start paying servers more then the prices go up and the services goes down.
I enjoyed not tipping in Japan. The maids even waived my entry fee for posting a picture of cake on Twitter.
the irony of the japanese system is I WANT TO TIP THEM SO BAD they give fucking phenominal service and im just like please let me show you how great full i am
@@Sarge92 You're just not used to living in japan, that's why. If you are used to it then it's the standard that you expect. Japanese customers can be really horrible and petty over the smallest things, then there is a one hour meeting over time without pay just because one customer complained. There is a lot of consequence for staff.
As an Australian visiting the USA on a seven week tour I hated tipping. I remember signs here and there saying "gratuities not included" , even on a bus at one stage. When we departed the bus, the driver stood at the exit point to collect which made it an emotional blackmail on anyone that had ideas of getting away with it. When tipping becomes "compulsory" it stinks and feels more like legal robbery.
Just so know if you’re eating at restaurants here and not tipping then the people that are serving you are being paid close to nothing so if you’re OK with that that’s pretty sad
@@bobs6129 It is pretty sad Bob - sad that people are not paid a decent wage and have to rely on the charity of customers.
@@chrisandrew852 then you would pay more for food I don’t know how people don’t understand it. I wouldn’t go to Australia and expect them to change the way they do things but I guess that’s just how I am. I don’t know.
@@bobs6129 Seriously?.. the whole world understands it Bob.. its actually very simple. You pay more for your food which the business owner then uses to pay the wait staff a living wage. Then you don't have to give a tip unless you really want to.
I bet you dont have to tip MacDonalds staff right?... or the guy/lady who helps you in a clothing store. Why?,, because they are paid a wage for what they do.
@@chrisandrew852 yeah like I said, if you don’t like it don’t eat out or maybe stick to the other countries I don’t know what to tell you. You have some ego thinking a country should change for You I’ll tell you one thing if you come here and you don’t tip, don’t eat at the same place more than once
In some states the USA there is also confusion with the sale tax. They display a certain amount on the price tag, you end up paying more.
I like to tip anyone who offers me a service which I enjoyed. But in america, (florida specifically) after a visit in a national park we had to pay off the little paddle boat we rented at the office. It was self service with touch screens, and you HAD to leave a tip you couldn't just pay the price. There were options leaving a tip between10%-50% of the cost of the rent, but no 0%. The whole experience was really bad and then you can't even pay without selecting a tip. That is just rude and disgusting. I want to decide if I want to leave a tip or not thank you.
Wtf what park? I live in Fl too
That.s the problem. You should tip ONLY if you want to.
twicepast7 I dont remember the name it was like 4 years ago but at some park of the everglades where you could paddle on your own trough the swamps. To rent it for an hour you paid like 40 bucks + the mandatory tip at the end.
If using a touchscreen, I assume you also used a card for payment. Call your card company, complain and shut that shit down. Problem solved for everyone else in the future as there is no way this can be allowed by the CC companies.
Ken Lee It is probably too late for that sadly. It was around 4 years ago and I dont have the energy to dig it up.
I'd rather tip the chef than the middle man (server).
Where I work servers get 200$ dollars a week. The cooks 650$ a week. Soo yeah tip the ones who get paid more lol
A nice restaurant you took both the chef usually makes pretty good money but if your meals exceptional he deserves a tip your server however makes nearly nothing and relies solely on their efforts their kindness and the effectiveness that they do with their job which is actually kind of perfect if you think about it there income is directly related to if they actually do their job or not
@@JwilliamsAssociates but they get minimum wage if they do t make enough. Theres no skill in waiting tables. Why should you be givin more money but mcdonalds workers cant make 15?
@@augustsaliento599 there income is based on tips they in fact do not make minimum wage most of the time in most places and there is some skill behind it a lot of Personality lot of organizational skills a lot more skill than it takes to say do you want fries with that but again the employer is not paying that higher wage their earning it by tips which is not mandatory but it's customary in this country why can't a McDonald's worker make $30,000 a year are you f****** kidding me
The server usually shares every tip they make with the cooks, busses, bartenders ect. They know it's a team that gets the customers served.
I love how the job that literally fuels the entirety of mankind, (and I mean literally fuels) is so undervalued and is even looked at as a want more than a necessity. We don’t go out to eat anymore let’s be real, we go out to socialize, to flaunt, to DRINK, the food is like the dress or suite they’re wearing out. O! The irony!
I deliver pizza for a living, and tips easily make up two thirds of my wages, but even that is only around $15 an hour. We don't really categorize tips by the customers, seeing as we don't know anything about who we're delivering to, but by the area of town.
What are your total weekly wages like: hourly + tips?
Do you get reimbursed for your vehicle miles?
Make your employers pay more to you
I've lived in Korea where there is no tipping and it is a far superior system:
1. Tipping means that wait staff are rewarded (or denied rewards) based on things they have no control over. For example, if the kitchen is backed up and the food is late it is the wait staff that takes the blame. If the owner decides to cut corners by buying lower quality food, it is the wait staff that gets shafted by no tips.
2. It is the role of management to reward superior performance and punish those who perform poorly. Passing it off to the customer is just cowardly.
3. It destroys any sense of professionalism that staff may have. They feel they must put up with any degrading comment or question from a rude customer because the all important tip depends on it.
4. Minimum wage for wait staff is well below the wage for other workers. So establishments keep their menu prices artifically low but you end up paying anyway with the tips. It is a hidden cost to any meal and cheats the staff out of basic living wage.
Just a few observations.
passing it off to the customer is just cowardly.
this I do agree with.
John - B
Great observations, and I see the same things in France! Waiters go to school there and have a salary. It’s a respectable occupation and they’re very good. They tend to not screw up orders and have their timing on point... on the other hand they can be rude and arrogant 😓 depends how touristy the area is 😂
More downsides to the American system include:
You can be fired at any time and for any reason.
You can lose your job over small mistakes.
If there are no customers you make no money.
No salary (2.13 an hour, which covers ur taxes, if your lucky.. bc sometimes u owe taxes still)
Sometimes having to work for free (delay clocking in to avoid overtime so u can work an extra shift per week)
No health insurance
No benefits
Destroying your feet and back from being forced to wear certain shoes (like chucks) on hard floors and having to bend and lift constantly.
But a couple nice things about waiting tables in America is you can work your way up to making six figures. You can obtain high high levels of professionalism in the right establishment.
For example: At Bern’s Steakhouse in Tampa, FL, it takes 7 YEARS to become a captain (lead server). 2 years in the kitchen, 1.5 as a food runner, 3 years as a back wait and the whole time you’re constantly being evaluated and having to take intense and lengthy written and oral exams. In the end tho, the captains make well into the six figures. And guess what.. executive chefs make bank too... often getting a cut of the restaurants profits.
Point is... these kind of arguments, for me, alway seem boil down to the same basic point. A point that is, i believe, one of the core principles of American culture. You GET what you PAY for.
A line cook or prep cook doesn’t offer a lot a value to an owner. It’s an entry level position that can be filled easily with a recent culinary school grad that’s dying to find a job. A waiter however, on their first night, is making the owner money. That’s also an easy position to fill. A monkey could do it right.
But see, a Great line cook or a Great waiter is a diff story. An owner would keep a great cook over a mediocre server. why? Bc a Great cook keeps the kitchen on track. And that cook gets promoted and can start to work their way up. Same thing the other way.
I’ve noticed something about chefs and cooks over the years. They take much greater pride in their work than the servers do, and I’ve always admired them for their ability to create with their hands. I always thought it was ironic that I almost always made more money as a server. However, I would stand at the pass, watching in awe as the chefs made what they do look easy. So what is more valuable, money or pride. You could argue both. The way I see it though, I get what I choose to pay for. If I don’t care about service or quality, I pay 10$ for a buffet. If I want to be served like a king, I work hard and save money to be able to spend 100$ on dinner. And every level in between.
I like that I have those options. I completely understand other countries will have more consistent and often better service and mid and lower end ... and not having to tip is nice but I like having the choice.
WAIT STAFF NEVER MAKE LESS THAN FEDERAL MINIMUM WAGE. No hourly employee in the US can have an income less than minimum wage, But what about that $2.13 you ask? If you take that $2.13/hr and add tips, it is required by law that the total income MUST be equal to or above minimum wage, and the employer must always pay a minimum of $2.13/hr regardless of how much they make in tips. But what happens when the tips don't make it above minimum wage?The restaurant pays the difference. Wait staff never make less than federal minimum wage.
So your point 4 is only sort of correct, since the only effect it does have is that restaurants put lower prices on the menu, but tipping is about as "hidden" as a sales tax. It is a known factor when stepping into a food establishment.
@@octoNinja when you have an adult with adult bills doing a job you need to be paying adult wages, not the highschool wage minimum bullshit. I have no sympathy for business owners these days. that 2.13 an hour is crap! it shouldnt be allowed.
@@lukewarmwater6412 - I (usually) have no sympathy for owners either. The best that can be said for tipping is that it's an incentive to treat customers well.
Tip jars for counter service, like Dairy Queens or Dunkin Donuts? That I don't like.
I’ve seen so many people say “you should always tip regardless of service”. Hell no. Just no. Not happening. Instead of people being berated into tipping, why don’t the workers strike until they get better wages? Esp when pizza places charge a delivery fee, but it isn’t given to the driver. Why? Y’all don’t pay for their gas, insurance, or car payment. So, why should we have to tip twice? 🤔
As an employee of a top pizza chain, the delivery fee goes towards the insurance payment the owners have to pay. Also, this may vary between stores but the store I work for gives drivers $1.25 towards gas. Most times drivers take upwards of 30 deliveries, which is in most cases a full tank of gas. Per day mind you
If the service is bad,, obviously tip accordingly.
If it's late or takes to long it may be the kitchens fault. It may be that the restaurant is packed, and it may be that the hosting staff doesn't know how to time the seating properly.
Oh yeah,,if the food comes out crappy,, it's the kitchens fault. If it comes out wrong it may be the kitchen's fault, it may be the the waiter/waitress,, because they wrote it down wrong.
Them ppl making tips are too cheap and greedy to protest it why would they wanna get rid of tips when some ppl pull in 2 to 300 untaxed dollars a day?? Ontop of their paycheque. Key word is some thats why i refuse to tip ever anyways i only tip my bartender and my cabbie they get a toonie
@@reyolivo3835 must be an american thing they dont do that here in ontario lol u buy ur own gas cause u get tips
Can I deduct tips I give to servers from my taxes as an employee expense?
In Brazil, specially in São Paulo, restaurants include a 10% charge that is optional for the workers, but their wages are always above the minimum. Not every restaurant charge that, but in general when they do costumers are most likely to pay.
Integrating tips into wages, literally defies the definition, of a tip.
The older I get the less I know
Fucking hell I read your comment and then saw Clit Commander69😂😂😂 Even though you're getting older you are very much apart of this time friend.
Well the tips are actually a way to reward the staff for a task exceptionally done. But in the US, you have to tip at least 20% no matter what the service was like just because the boss don't wanna pay their employees. So tipping in that sense is being part of the problem and enabling the owner's greed.
I've been a server. I've been a cook. I've been a dish washer. I made 3x as much money while only making $4/hr as a server, compared to as a cook/dish washer at minimum wage.
then if you want to get tips you know should be a server, then it will be down to your personality and looks as well as your ability and effort
Thank you for your honesty.
Shut your fat ass up
No tip for you fat ass
Its the same in the IT-Industry a Server can make more money that a clientPC ;D
"You know what this is? It's the smallest violin in the world playing just for the waitresses."
“Ok since you payed for my breakfast I’ll leave a buck but I normally never do this.”
@@stormcloud-9369"Nevermind what you normally would do and throw in your buck like everyone else."
Love your videos!
papa johns is sending out "how to tip" papers if you tip under $5 on a $27 order
The fucking audacity.
Fucking finally lol
@@psychopompous3207 maybe if they would pay their workers a liveable wage, tipping wouldnt matter
@@bradhuff5131Maybe that's on the business itself, not the consumer.
Just another reason to hate them
As a former server, the title of the video had my hair bristling.
To reiterate, not tipping only hurts the server.
Servers, honestly, have to deal with the worst of humanity. It was hell. People relish treating servers poorly regularly. An overwhelming percentage of customers are rude, spiteful, and unpleasant to engage with.
But, you are 100% right after watching the entirety of the video.
All servers in the U.S. would have to quit simultaneously for change to occur.
Want to talk about hell try working a entire station alone making dishes on a busy night orders building up strating to flash at you it's 100+ degrees and your only 4hrs into an 8hr shift ! I've fainted on the line from the heat before that's hell, Then not even getting tipped at the end of the night but seeing the waiters count their cash across the room.
@@meekonaleash I've worked into the kitchen too. Longer than serving even. Definitely sucks, and while on average you make less than a server in some places, you dont have to deal with people directly either. I made less money cooking, but was less stressed by far.
get a better job. simple solution, make yourself marketable
@@4XD45 With a name like Degenerate, no one expects you to understand.
I work as a cook and I love my wait staff, but god damn do I get salty when I think about the fat tips they get to keep when I'm busting my ass way harder than them XD
As a bar tender, tips are always appreciated, be it for pouring a "perfect pint" or a swift cocktail, but I get tipped less than £2 every 3 months, its not an issue but as a student, I appreciate the extra cash
I work in the beauty industry. I NEVER EXPECT a tip, I figure my expenses into my prices. Tips tell me I did a great job on my service, I would rather my clients didn’t tip than do it because they felt they “had” too. I do my job to help people and help them achieve goals and results because I love it, not for tips. Tips are almost always given at the end of a service, so it would in NO way effect the quality of my service. WOM is HUGE in my business! That’s what matters, not a tip
Agreed, tips should be GIVEN as a bonus. Or earned, rather than expected. Great service and an exception job should be rewarded at the customers discretion. Why should the Custer be expected to pay extra for poor quality or service?
When I was still not born, my mom had to take a part time job while in highschool as waitress, she got paid only 200 ARS (2 dollars), and she could only get money from the tips, which would usually be like 10 ARS, it wasn't even the minimum wage, instead way lower than that, yet still the restaurant stays like that up until the present because "tips should be enough", 2 of the workers tried to sue them but since the restaurant was friends with the mayor even after closing down the restaurant, it opened again.
Interesting to hear.
ARS is which countries currency?
argentine pesos. What GoK said is true, the salaries of waiters suck here and many owners take advantage of tips to just pay less that they should
I miss how in your old videos you would finish by saying, "thanks for the view, subscribe for more, thoughty2. *wink*"
Sandip Biswas OMG SAME
Same
Same as well as the Thoughty2 intro
Fanks for the view, subscribe for more, 42. *wink*
Albus Dumbledore hahahaha, love his accent
When I was a waiter I would always share my tips at the end of the day with the Hostest and Cooks. Eventually I became a cook while in College and I never got a cut of the tips. I guess it was just at the one restaurant I worked at that all the servers appreciated the Chefs, Hostests, Dishwashers, and Bussers.
Australia is also culturally different. All staff are paid for their hours. We, customers, know that the price on the menu is that neither customer nor staff cares. - saving stress and hassle. Built into the pricing are the wages of ALL staff.