This is the END for the Cleveland Cavaliers...
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- Опубликовано: 31 май 2024
- The Boston Celtics just eliminated the Cleveland Cavaliers from the NBA Playoffs in five games to send them into a wildly interesting offseason. Donovan Mitchell's future with the team is in question with teams like the Miami Heat, New York Knicks, Brooklyn Nets, Los Angeles Lakers, and more hoping that he doesn't extend with the Cavs. Meanwhile, Darius Garland and Jarrett Allen are also seemingly on the block with teams like the Oklahoma City Thunder, Sacramento Kings, Minnesota Timberwolves, New Orleans Pelicans, and more interested in the services of one or the other. Evan Mobley is seemingly the only core team member that isn't possibly on the move and even he has some question marks as well. Even if the Cavs don't lose Donovan Mitchell, it feels like massive changes are coming for the franchise and we're witnessing the end of the Cleveland Cavaliers as we know them. Let's talk about it.
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0:00 - Intro
0:12 - Cleveland Cavaliers vs Boston Celtics
0:50 - The 2024 Season
2:13 - Is Donovan Mitchell Gone?
6:08 - Darius Garland Trade Request
6:47 - Jarrett Allen on the Move?
10:04 - Concerns with Evan Mobley
10:35 - JB Bickerstaff Getting Fired?
10:57 - The Most Interesting Offseason
12:28 - Outro 
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As a Cavs fan I’m so frustrated about all of these manufactured rumors about Spida. He’s not going anywhere lol
That’s what us jazz fans thought too lmao
@@eddie1680 That’s fair lmao. Wish yall nothing but success keep taking care of my boy Sexton
How you know it manufactured please explain
Do you know him personally?
@@artLopez24 he’s never once publicly claimed he wants out and on Twitter today he literally called it bullshit so 🤷🏼♂️
No one is going anywhere. We went to the second round injured. This was a great season.
Yalll went life and death against the magic and got beatdown by the Celtics.
"great season" holy cope😭😭😭
yeah because Mitchell had to carry every single game in there series literally was all on his own while the rest of team were NO help at all.
@@jjuniior1you ain’t watch a single game casual
@@mattgreen2258 casual ? yeah okay watched the magic and celtics series and who was there leading scorer mitchell 40 points to carry
You forgot to mention that in that same Shams article, he mentions that Cleveland’s coaching staff did not want to develop Mobley’s offensive game at all for the past three years because they were in win now mode and didn’t feel like they needed to develop him
Wow that's shitty. Mobley has a star potential. No matter what mode they're in, they should always develop their promising players.
This just isn't true...Mobley has gotten better year to year. He's a 3rd scoring option and the best overall defender on the team. If garland does his job Evan's production wouldn't be in question.
@@kingsofthenerds3695nah mobleys offensive limitations really are glaring and if it keeps up this way they gotta get rid of one of the bigs
@@rahilbadkul9154 this is a lazy reused espn take
@@kingsofthenerds3695 I don't watch ESPN, I watch the NBA. The Cavs went on their highest winstreak this season when mobley and garland were hurt and the offense ran through mitchell with allen as the sole big. But even past on court results, there is a way to think about this logically. You are trying to make two 6'1 guards work as your main shot creators with two fairly unskilled bigs that provide 0 spacing. Both ideas of unlocking a high powered offense and defense are inherently limited by size/skill limitations of other people on the roster. With this approach, the cavs are giving up offensive skill from any frontcourt position and giving up a glaring hole in the perimeter defense, limiting the ceiling on both ends of the court. These inherent roster limitations just cannot allow a team to be successful in 2024, regardless of how skilled the four may be.
these rumors are gonna be horrible for the locker room if mitch does leave and they have to keep everybody else
I don't see why Garland is getting all this hate. Of course he's been worse than the last two years, but that was because he wasn't healthy for the majority of the season. Losing like 15 pounds can do a lot to throw someone out of whack. I think you have to try and roll with Darius and Donovan one more time when both ARE 100% after the offseason. Before his broken jaw, Garland had about the same stats as last season, so I know he hasn't regressed. Obviously the team has improved from last year since we made the second round this time, and people forget that the cavs core is crazy young. Mitchell is 27 (most likely just the beginning of his prime), Allen is only 26, Garland is only 24, and Mobley is only 22, and I believe they will all play better under a new coach with a different gameplan.
Thank you, you have a brain unlike other cleveland fans
Facts
We can’t rebuild again we just rebuilded
(Cavs fan) Bring Mitchell back, Extend Mobley, Trade Garland and/or Allen (would like to keep allen), trade levert, bring okoro back for a cheaper price, let Bickerstaff go or move him to assistant coach (great guy and backs his players up but his mindset with the offense is not successful). That’s as far as I am rn.
That sounds nice and all, but tbh probably won’t happen all nice and neatly like that
Completely agree. That would be a perfect world
Trade Garland for what?
Why should bickerstaff go? His team was injured and the his role players suck
As a thunder fan,give us allen,we will give u a fuck ton of picks and gordan hayward
You litterly made this exact same video with exact same title about every team that has been eliminated from the playoffs
Mitchell stays, lebron sign with Cavs. Trade Garland for Ingram/ Derozan, trade Allen for Vucevic/ lauri Markenen a solid stretch 4. Fire JB hire Sam Cassel and boom ur competing for a title next year
This is where mgmt proves their worth! They have some really nice players. Gotta keep it goin somehow.
Garland for Brandon Ingram would really be a great trade for both teams. A Front court of Allen, Mobley and Ingram would give teams fits especially on defense. Even if you were to lose Mitchell it's more likely to land a decent guard then a SF of B.I. talent. Then Garland would be a great fit for Zion. Especially a point forward Zion. They Must Allen for right now.
Hell no we DO NOT WANT BI HE IS TRASH HONESTLY LIKE TREY MURPHY FOR ALLEN
It feels like Bickerstaff is going to be fired, and it's a shame. I'm not sure anyone could have done a better job with the team than he did this season. He had a new starting lineup practically every night due to injury. The fact that the team often looked better when 1-2 of their four best players was out speaks to issues with the lineup construction, not coaching. Having two small guards and two non-shooting big men just doesn't make sense in the current NBA.
cavs dont gotta break up the core. priority one should be retaining donovan and running these guys back. the guards/bigs not being a fit is way overblown. spida has seen his best years playing with garland, and allen dominated the magic next to mobley. mobleys play after he went down wasnt just more space being available; he wasnt doing this in his lone big minutes all season, or last year against the the knicks. he genuinely might have just figured out how effective a scorer he is, and will come in next year replicating that next to allen. garland had his most efficient year when spida came, was 3rd in the league in +/- back in 2023. that kind of impact just doesnt happen in a situation you dont fit in, and it doesnt just go away. the injuries affected his mind just as much as his body, he can reset both this offseason and flourish next to donovan. contrary to popular beliefs and the newest reports, dg has the same green light spida does. came into preseason this year with higher 3pt volume clearly on his mind, increased his strength to finish better in the paint. before the jaw injury, we saw this newfound aggression manifest as career high %’s in the paint and higher 3point attempts. coming out the all star break was his peak as a shooter, 10 3s per game, 49%!!! now he wont do that for a whole season, but 40% is doable for a guy with his track record, even with that many shots. let it be known rn. cavaliers are keeping their four main guys, adding better positional size around them, maybe a new coach, and making another leap into contender status next season. darius and evan bounce back years, injuries the only reason their stats didnt pop this year
Wow only (insert views) in (insert seconds) you fell off cone 😢
I low key think Donovan Mitchell is limiting Garland and Co. He doesn’t distribute as well as Garland and Garland and him have not meshed at all. I think Garland, Allen, and Mobley would all see a bump without Mitchell. I’d love to see Mitchell traded for two or more top tier role players that complete the roster like a Jrue Holiday or OG Anunoby or even brining back Markkanen
Well we did prioritize developing Mitchell's playmaking a little bit more, he was much improved in that part of his game this year, but yea neither of them are realy "off-ball" guards and I think they should send Garland to San Antonio for maybe Keldon Johnson, one of our 2024 picks and another future first, and probably another bench piece. I did like the look of this Cavs team when Garland was the one doing it all, and now that we see Mobley can do a lot more offensively, he could really take off next year. We will have to see what the front office decides to do but I think the Cavs will come out as winners either way, we just have so many pieces we COULD move and a lot of good options for other teams to consider in a trade.
I was about to comment the exact same thing and then I read yours, I think a DG trade for the spurs would be a good middle ground between putting more of the chips on the table for someone like Trae, and taking a chance on someone like Topic or Dillingham. They could get DG and try to go for more wing depth out of the draft, or maybe a defensive guard like Castle. If they go in to next season with DG and some combination of Risacher, Castle, Holland, Buzelis, or Knecht I think they’re feeling good about their future.
Garland has gotta go the turnovers he makes are unacceptable honestly he can’t score he can’t distribute consistently we need to trade him and Allen
@@ronaldresseger saying we gotta trade Allen is how I know you don't know ball. Allen is the most important cav outside of arguably Mitchell. Allen is young, unproblematic, and fills a role we desperately need and on a good contract too. We can agree to disagree about Garland but trading Allen for anything short of a bona fide all star is the dumbest thing we could do
@@lordcupkake okay you can think I “don’t know ball” but clearly Mobley is better at the 5 Mobley is 22 and he doesn’t have a consistent enough 3 ball to justify continuing the two big lineups and having 2 non shooters on the floor so whichever you’d rather get rid of that’s your choice but I am choosing to get rid of Allen over Mobley he’s 4 or 5 years younger. I think we should trade Allen to the pelicans who have been wanting him for Trey Murphy herb jones some picks etc I don’t think we could get both herb and Trey but Trey is a true 3-d guy he is only 23 shot 38% and 40% from 3 the last two years as a volume 3 point shooter he’s taking 7.8 shots per game getting 5 boards a game and he’s 6’8 that gives us some size to replace Allen’s 6’9 and he can shoot like Trey Murphy would be A GREAT STARTING POINT AT A RETURN FOR ALLEN. I DONT WANT TO BREAK UP ALLEN AND MOBLEY BIT MOBLEY IS YOUNGER AND PLAYS BETTER AT THE 5. Hope you understand where I’m coming from now
I used to like Donavan Mitchell until I had him on my fantasy team and bro is so inefficient some nights.
As a Cavs fan I'm fine with Mitchell leaving. They should see what happens this next season and if it doesn't look good by the trade deadline then trade him for picks and a legitimate starting small forward 6'8 to 6'10.
If you trade him to a "nicer city" then they should fleece that team as much as possible. Don't take a bad deal. I'd rather he walk and we get nothing than take some scrubs that another team doesn't want.
Hey man love the videos. When playoffs are over would you consider making a hornets rebuild video. I’m a huge fan of the hornets but no one talks about them and i’d love to hear your opinion.
If the rumors are true about Garland requesting a trade upon Mitchell signing an extension are true, Then I really hope the spurs go and get him. Spurs could draft a PG this year, but even then we can still get Garland, and now that rookie Gaurd will have 2 great mentors to help him with his game. Especially if we draft Dillingham because his playmaking is what needs to grow the most. But I think the Cavs could also be fine running it back, the Garland rumour might be some media BS. maybe trade Allen, it seems that there was some frustration with him not doing everything he could to get out there and play in the Celtics series, and he could get us a lot of assets in a return, as well as unlocking Mobley at the 5. We would need more wing depth tho. The Cavs are poised for a big off-season, but that doesnt mean keeping everyone is the wrong move. This team can go all the way in my belief
Trading for Donavan was not worth it
It was by a mile lol the Cavs sign him to 4 years 208 mil and trade Allen to the pelicans for Trey Murphy and trade garland to the nets for cam Johnson and the Cavs will be TRUE CONTENDERS
Keep on dreaming Homelander
My cousin's neighbor's girlfriend's roommate's brother said that Donovan Mitchell wants to leave. It's official Cleveland is done.....
We going to stick together and win a chip. Trade levert move strus to the bench with okoro and then sign a stretch 4 to pair with frobley
Game 5 Okc mavs?
been real quiet lol
He's grieving
yeah i came here for that
Add Bickerstaff. You have a 12 players on the game roster. He doesn’t give non starters any exposure. And 75 seconds when you are up by 20 points isn’t playing, it’s an insult. If I were an off the bench player on this team I’d be praying for an out.
Cavs fan here... Mitchell signs, Garland gets traded. Glad you didnt pull the "Mitchell wants out, and is headed to the Lakers" nonsense.
Noone talks about it, but, LeBron might come back and Garland/Allen gets traded.
I'd take Ingram, but he is injury prone every year.
Def move DG if DM extends, but not for a guy like Brandon Ingram. You'd be getting another DG, a guy who needs the ball in his hands to be effective, and takes multiple dribbles to get going. Brandon Ingram would gum up the offense like LeVert does when he's out there. We want off ball guys who can play D. Someone like Mikal Bridges.
Remember that time that LeBron went to the Knicks after he was wearing Yankees gear after they won the world series? Yeah me neither.
can someone explain to me why the pels would want to trade ingram? im not understanding that one
They gotta ton of wings and rumors have it that BI hasn’t been the best teammate.
But everyone is saying that the Cavs should trade Mitchell because "nobody wants to play in Cleveland". New Orleans is a small market team too.
Also it just kinda makes sense for them to trade him becuase like the other guy said, they have a TON of wing depth, arguably the most of any team, and they want to build around Zion for the future. It would be better in the long run to trade Ingram (who has been rumored to be a little bit controversial in the organization i guess) and put a star gaurd or center next to Zion
Yeah I guess that makes sense considering the lack Of point guard depth.
I can’t believe cone actually ducked the thunder mavs video
Game 6 Chet 😈
🙏🙏
As a grizzlies fan we don't want spida give us mobley or allen
I have no clue what this guy is on about🤣🤣hes yapping
@@EzeBall1710 I ain't Kno we had brain dead fans y tf would we get Mitch where is he gone fit he's 6'1 ja is 6'3 n we don't have a big beside trip wtf u on crack ?
Two things. First, if DM extends, then Mobley will be next, followed by Garland being traded & possibly Jarrett Allen. Get a stretch 3 who is an off ball player w/ solid D. A guy like Mikal Bridges. JA isn't an imperative move right now b/c his contract is so cheap, & the possibility that Mobley comes back canning his 3s. If he does, great, if not, then move JA for a stretch 5. Someone like Myles Turner. I don't think we want Evan Mobley at the 5 w/ a stretch 4 b/c that is a waste of his Defensive talents. He shut Banchero down in games 1, 2 & 4 in that Orlando series, and was an otherwise defensive NIGHTMARE for the Magic, but once JA was injured & Mobley was forced to play center, Banchero went batshit in games 5, 6 & 7. We want Mobley available to guard the opponents' top Forwards every night, not lumbering Centers. Second, once this roster is balanced out, I say you keep Bickerstaff. He's been a good, not great HC, BUT, he has this bad roster to work w/, DG & DM and JA and Mobley being redundant players. JB is still fairly young himself, and learning. Give him a chance w a better contracted roster, & if he can't step if up, THEN look for a new HC. Go Cavs!
it's obvious, that you need to trade Garland and Mobley. Cleveland have litteraly 2 same players at 2 position. They need more depth and trade them
After Garlands performance in the playoffs. Back to the drawing board. He’s not going to be an elite player needed for a deep playoff run.
build around mobley and mitchel
Cone, I think our thunder are overmatched. I hope I’m wrong but I don’t see us winning the series. This season has been a success no matter what happens and the future is definitely bright. Thunder up!☝️
Talk about okc mavs lil bro
you aint think he gon talk about that? ur slow
@@Enlightened_SpursFan well he still ain’t..
Dont forget mobley shot 37% from the 3 so i dont know if i would say spacing is an issue but i would like to see mobley at the 5 and he is averaging 18pts per 36 so he is definitely capable of getting 20 a game
37% but when you look at the numbers more deeply it was on 59 total attempts. Thats like one attempt a game. He shot 27% in the playoffs. Spacing is a huge issue for them. I do agree Mobley at the five would be a better move and hopefully it will generate some more space.
@@liferealgoodI agree they need more spacing. Mobley is more comfortable at centre too.
@@liferealgood good point
As a cavs fan it’s tough because I did like this team a lot but obviously it’s not going work. I love dg is one of my favorite players but I would definitely rather have Spida. My dream scenario we trade DG for Brandon Ingram, and trade Jarrett to the raps or the nets a team with a ton of good role players would be so nice. I definitely would prioritize Spida and Mobley.
OH! Oklahoma city, in my opinion, would be an incredible fit for Jarret Allen....... That is exactly what they need. I think the fit would be 100% seamless.
off the bench? I think thats kind of wasting Allen, becuase Chet HAS to be a 5 to get the most out of him, similar to wemby
its way too early for this imo. at least wait until they offer him the extension lol
As far as Sturs, he sucks,and isn't worth, $16 million a season. So glad the Heat let him walk.
Garland for Mikal Bridges
Don't send my boy DG to the Nets he gon be suffering over there 😭🙏
Can you talk about Paul George, like his options and his best for if can? Love the videos❤
A video on the clippers as a whole tbh
@@DWhiteFan he did one already I just want Paul George alone
I wanna hear about the thunder
There seems to be only updates on the Thunder if they win. I think it is important to support your team no matter what. They weren't even that bad, but it turns out if you have trouble winning games against the Dallas Mavericks with a very mediocre Luka Doncic, if Luka is starting to ball like he normally does they have very little chance.
Let's hope game 6 will be an amazing game from both teams, I enjoyed game 4 as well, despite Dallas playing badly in the 4th quarter, which is very much unlike them. I'm still waiting for that insane Kyrie scoring game, we've seen every other star and PJ Washington have great games so far.
I'm a Cavs fan and I'd trade DG,Allen, and Niang and sign and trade Okoro,resign Morris
Resign Morris?
Mitchell for LeBron 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
The whole fade in thing makes me want to turn the video off on every intro. It's bad.
Imagine if all three got traded 💀 (definitely not happening, but think about it)
imagine they just trade away the entire roster other than mobley
White boy said “y’all”
Lmao. Nah bro. Not gonna come on here and not talk about Dallas domination over okc. You posted real quick when they won game 4.
Word, that's exactly what I'M saying! Where's the video about how the Mavs pulled it out over OKC? Where's the title about how OKC came up short,?
So we're just gonna ignore that cause your team lost? It's ok to be a fan, but don't be a homer Cone, just a bad look.
Dallas didn't exactly dominate OKC. They didn't blow them out or anything. They outplayed them, but OKC cut it close a couple of times.
@@urbaindelva7869it’s evident who the better team is. This should been over in five had the Mavs not just shit the bed. They gave okc game 4.
I would resign everybody except garland and okorro to make a space for lbj. Hes literally waht the teams missing. An athletic SM who can create their own basket and D up when needed. If you cant get bj. Get pg. Need a small forward that can score 25 pts a game. A 1-2 punch. They dont have that. Its what their missing. Garland just isnt consistant enough imo. But imo the roster is fine as is. Except for the SM position. You get them healthy and entise lebron to come back. Its an instant contender with picks left and assets left to improve the team. Plus its the east. It would def make them an instant contender
To many click bait titles for me to watch this guy i do like him tho
Raccoon squad!
Please never say Bickerstaff did any sort of good job at all. The guy is a bad coach. You even mention one of his bad points in passing when talking about Mitchell & Garland not fitting well and fail to realize that it's because of the coach.
Bickerstaff doesn't run an offense, it's ISO ball. It's quite frankly always been that way even before Mitchell got there. The year before, the Cavs were entirely reliant on Garland to create offense.
There's also the complete lack of team awareness. The supposed starting 5 for the team was barely above average when they played together this year. It has been painfully obvious to anybody who pays attention that the team is better when Okoro starts, because his defense is far more important than having a 5th offensive option with Strus.
Casual
@@dearmas9068 excellent refutation. Solid points made. I agree completely. Well-constructed analysis of the original comment👍
@@TheIgnorantJahil the JB haters never really have any clue what they're taking about and don't deserve yet another book written to them about why they're wrong.
They wouldn't listen anyway...
The cavs don’t really have a small so trade George Niang, Max Strus, Dean Wade and a couple of draft picks for a Brandon Ingram(I don’t know if the pelicans would agree with this trade)
Anything to not talk about okc 😂
Cavs do be like that
Whos mans is this?
It definitely sounds like mitchell will stay if we fire jb and make some better moves, which we are gojng to do anyway. And even if he doesnt he did a fuckload for his trade value this playoffs so we are jn a good spot regardless, at least we arent atlanta
JB is a good coach. The rumors about Mitchell not liking him are manufactured
@@dearmas9068 no he is not did you watch the team the last 2 years lmao
@@216cle more than you have, and I have the benefit of knowing what Im talking about. 99% of basketball fans, including yourself, do not.
Yes, JB is a good coach. No, it doesnt matter if you dont like it.
@@dearmas9068 nah you don't know what the hell you are talking about lol I have no life mf I've watched every game the last 3 years besides maybe 30. This guy is a complete bozo
Garland should definitely try to go to spurs
where that okc mavs vid though. win lose just talk about em. arent you a okc fan
Cleaveland has no choice but to trade him cause he will definitely leave. My guess spida would prefer miami as a trade destination.
Hes not going anywhere
@@dearmas9068 wanna bet? 😏
Remember when LeBron went to the Knicks after he was wearing Yankees gear after they won the world series? Yeah me neither.
If it’s the end okc will gladly take Donavan Mitchell and Evan Mobley if they’re trying to blow up their team
Its not the end. In fact, the Cavs have a brighter future than OKC.
Ignore the BS chatter
Trade Mitchell and Mobley…… Get a big two way wing that can score. Draft another scoring three point threat
Never speak about basketball again
Current Donovan cannot be a option A on a team, didn't work in Utah, wont work the Cavs. He doesn't have the mentality yet. He needs to play along side a real superstar, a veteran, to take that next step. If you cant get a veteran point to the Cavs, he should try and get to Golden State to play with Steph.
Shhhh
Trade Allen for Ingram, Garland for some good rotational pieces. Problems solved.
There is no good reason to trade Allen.
Maybe MAYBE a Garland for Ingram trade can work.
@@dearmas9068 Mobley plays significantly better without Allen. I kno Allen was one of the best centers last season but this twin tower just will never work. Pelicans wouldn’t want Garland but Allen is a good fit. And don’t let this season of performance make you forget what type of player Ingram is. It’s definitely worth making this trade
@@pierceliu9914 you have no clue what you're talking about
Allen anchors their defense even with Mobley on the floor. When he goes down their defense plummets.
The need JB to run more plays to get Mobley some outside shots especially with Allen on the floor.
@@dearmas9068he kinda does, you should sit this out
Toronto should give em all the picks in the world to get Mobley:)
Can't have him. Hes better than Barnes
@@dearmas9068 ayo chill
Donavan is holding back dg
Thats true, but there may not be a world where they can coexist and both be the best version of themselves.