I've literally restarted on that three times by now. The opening ghost story, I can almost recite in full, but never made it past once the bridge got crossed
Imma be honest, I‘ve read it twice...and I don‘t really like it. I would even say it‘s my least favorite type moon VN. It‘s setting is very whack and the story progression is all over the place. It feels more like a slice of life story because it‘s like 70% Daytime everyday life clips and 30% Nighttime actual plot progression. It also gave birth to the Shirou harem king myth in that it‘s basicly a somewhat combination of all 3 routes instead of just following one therefore you have all 3 main girls plus Medusa instead of just one love interest. Of course it has it‘s great parts and the nighttime actual plot is pretty great with Bazett, Angra and Caren... It‘s just that you have to go through so many generic slice of life sections that it‘s(at least FOR ME) very jarring to get through the whole thing
The best thing about servants who have great skills but bad damage is that you can mitigate that with grails and np levels. And that's exactly what I did. Spent my half a year worth of savings to get np5, and next she is going to L120. Needless to say, I am a huge fan.
@@wilthewise2277 I agree, that cost way to much money and quartz, but I got the NP6 (Actually got NP7 but it was just a fluke, used the tickets from the point ladder)
I threw one multi at her on both my accounts and ended up getting her on one of them. That's good enough for me. I like being able to see interludes and stuff myself. But you're right, this year is just too stacked with must grabs to spend on her.
This video is later than Shirou’s child support, although not Kotomine late. Yeah sure blame the ghost although Shirou’s years low sense of self worth, lack of self preservation, and lack of contraceptives didn’t help. Although this all applies to the real Caren and not this Caren.
I remember on release in JP I said that her Np was gonna be so abusable due to her Hit Counts and class, most of my friends told me that being a ruler she's not gonna have a good damage but then we got to see her Passive, Skills and the eventual buffs through Appends, NP buff and the release of Oberon basically making her one of the best omni DPS in the game for CQs and Farming
If you don't have Black Grail, a lower rarity CE that also deals damage at the end of turn is Awakened Will, which actually pairs ok with her NP drain from allies per turn assuming it successfully procs. That would be a 35% NP gain per turn if MLB'd, which could allow you to gain any extra charge you might need to get her up to 50% for the Skadi NP charge.
2:34 I don't believe cuz it's a lie XD. The craziest part is that even tho summer skadi can have basically 4 support servants (herself + two on-field + plug), but with that NP buff caren outdamages her significantly if you utilize her kit properly (Use black grail or put a random avenger in backlines to activate her passive and don't miss those NP on your supports to feed to your caren).
As a fan of Kirei, I got to say his daughter has some good potential, even if being Quick is doing it's level beast to handcap it. But she wouldn't be a Kotomine without disappoint or frustrating someone with her sheer existence, right?
Part of me wish that they gave her Upgrade a 10% Flat Charge like how Tez's NP does it. The damage is still nice but farming convenience would go longer ways
I really do not understand why Lasagna has not just blanket-buffed Bond CEs to be 1k/1k. What is even the logic there? Just end this stupid meme already, dev team.
Unfortunately that still isn't enough for most bond CEs. Yeah it will make SOME worthwhile using, but the issue in general would be far from fixed. There are still plenty bond CEs that don't make any sense on their servant even if you add stats to them (Kama for example)
@@aizeroth8858 Yeah but it's the least they could do. It would make some servants have viable ones, at the very least, and that's better than there being the current... like 5 or 6 that exist right now.
I spent 600 SQ after saving for almost a year and got spooked by Jack the Ripper, Europa, Bradamante, a plethora of 4 stars and didn’t get her. I’m broke
Was waiting for this video Just to hit like as it is Caren Though I agree with the arts comment, and hell, Ruler Moriarty loses to the 4 star welfare arts ruler Iyo in terms of looping and she is released in the same year. Wish Caren was arts but oh well, what do.
She is, but you'll either have some issues clearing waves and/or getting enough refund. Castoria is recommended as a third charger because she fixes both those problems.
@@PhoenixBlazer39 So if i'm correct, using Caren with a Black Grail, double Skadi and Castoria (hella expensive lol) T1: Skadi-A All skills, swap for Castoria. Castoria S1-S2, Skadi-B S1, Caren S1. NP T2: Skadi-B S2-3, Caren NP. T3: Caren S2-3, Caren NP. Not sure how well it wil work on certain classes as I only tested on doors but it was consistent.
@@winzoln wow, that is an interesting set up. I did recently get spooked by a black grail, so I have a level 1 non-mlb I can use, would that work for that or no?
@@PhoenixBlazer39 Huh, that makes sense. So the triple Skadi set up from those JP videos I saw, but with Castoria instead of Summer Ruler Skadi because Summer Ruler Skadi is not out yet. Got it!
Did you know that they did a deep dive into the game code and found out that Caren was supposed to be the first servant to have a 2nd playable NP before Melusine? It was supposed to be an anti-Chaldea NP called “Let me speak with your director!”
Fino: "no room in back line because you're overbonding every raita servant" I mean they aren't gonna bond themselves and you can't go wrong with two Raikou's waiting in the back for you. Edit: After seeing how Caren is in the event. skip her and the story. It's no wonder she was compeletly forgotten until the EN event popped up. Better farmers, more interesting characters.
Wish her skill 1 rewarded 20% battery instead of 10% for drain she would have been a great farmer for people who don't have said also did something she he is a solo
Master:why are you so good caren?
Caren: everytime someone doesn't read hollow ataraxia I do one push up.
I really need to get on that
@@Rose-85 best part is it can be seen in parts
I've literally restarted on that three times by now. The opening ghost story, I can almost recite in full, but never made it past once the bridge got crossed
but i dont even read my servants kit
Imma be honest, I‘ve read it twice...and I don‘t really like it. I would even say it‘s my least favorite type moon VN.
It‘s setting is very whack and the story progression is all over the place.
It feels more like a slice of life story because it‘s like 70% Daytime everyday life clips and 30% Nighttime actual plot progression.
It also gave birth to the Shirou harem king myth in that it‘s basicly a somewhat combination of all 3 routes instead of just following one therefore you have all 3 main girls plus Medusa instead of just one love interest.
Of course it has it‘s great parts and the nighttime actual plot is pretty great with Bazett, Angra and Caren...
It‘s just that you have to go through so many generic slice of life sections that it‘s(at least FOR ME) very jarring to get through the whole thing
Angra Mainu buffing Caren by existing is a funny little detail, intentional or not. Hoping I can pull the entire Hollow Ataraxia trio eventually
Shes one of the most realistic servants in the game if you have a problem just throw money at them
I got her with 1 paid sq roll today,
I did exactly that
A bit to much money though
She's Oberon compatible with BG. That's all she need to be one of the best farmers.
Karen with a K: Demands to see the manager.
Caren with a C: THE MANAGER. Slaps people into submission. Does not suffer Karens with a K lightly.
I forgot she was a servant until her banner dropped, immediately rolled until NP1 and called it a day.
The best thing about servants who have great skills but bad damage is that you can mitigate that with grails and np levels. And that's exactly what I did. Spent my half a year worth of savings to get np5, and next she is going to L120.
Needless to say, I am a huge fan.
Based
Gonna 120 her myself and I have maxed appends
@@twistedsword8612 you're going for np6? Madman
@@wilthewise2277 I agree, that cost way to much money and quartz, but I got the NP6 (Actually got NP7 but it was just a fluke, used the tickets from the point ladder)
That’s actually pretty smart for an AOE quick, since most of the time you’re running a single target for 90+ anyways
@@wilthewise2277 Decided to add a follow up comment and say this was the worst banner rolls of all time for me
5:13 that gave me a good laugh and a nice gundam reference.
Fino confirmed to turn off his Madness Enhancment before recording
I threw one multi at her on both my accounts and ended up getting her on one of them. That's good enough for me. I like being able to see interludes and stuff myself. But you're right, this year is just too stacked with must grabs to spend on her.
This video is later than Shirou’s child support, although not Kotomine late. Yeah sure blame the ghost although Shirou’s years low sense of self worth, lack of self preservation, and lack of contraceptives didn’t help. Although this all applies to the real Caren and not this Caren.
Been waiting for this. Thanks fino!👍
I remember on release in JP I said that her Np was gonna be so abusable due to her Hit Counts and class, most of my friends told me that being a ruler she's not gonna have a good damage but then we got to see her Passive, Skills and the eventual buffs through Appends, NP buff and the release of Oberon basically making her one of the best omni DPS in the game for CQs and Farming
6:15 funny you said that, I got both parvati ang valkyrie before pulling caren herself
If you don't have Black Grail, a lower rarity CE that also deals damage at the end of turn is Awakened Will, which actually pairs ok with her NP drain from allies per turn assuming it successfully procs. That would be a 35% NP gain per turn if MLB'd, which could allow you to gain any extra charge you might need to get her up to 50% for the Skadi NP charge.
Just got her on GSSR so guide came in clutch
same here 😂 it's crazy tho i didn't know she was Kirei's daughter
Remember kids, append your Skadis and don't be ashamed to run double Skadi and Caster Artoria. That NP gain up may be useful.
5:12 Come on Fino, that's clearly Alex Dino who has no relation to Athrun Zala.
Those FHA tracks choices are so based Fino
2:34 I don't believe cuz it's a lie XD. The craziest part is that even tho summer skadi can have basically 4 support servants (herself + two on-field + plug), but with that NP buff caren outdamages her significantly if you utilize her kit properly (Use black grail or put a random avenger in backlines to activate her passive and don't miss those NP on your supports to feed to your caren).
I just realized that her np has angel and demon wings.
She's probably the closest to having Kefka Palazzo in a Fate game. Well, aside from Mephisto and the Limbo enthusiast.
literally just got her from the gssr happy she is also good
I don’t know whether to attempt for her using a few of my tickets, saving up for Barghast is my current goal, I want the big dog.
Was that Angra Mainyu joke on purpose?
Masterfully done🤨
i always mistake Caren with Miss Crane lol
As a fan of Kirei, I got to say his daughter has some good potential, even if being Quick is doing it's level beast to handcap it. But she wouldn't be a Kotomine without disappoint or frustrating someone with her sheer existence, right?
Only people who make Q work are true gigachads, not those 3 turn arts farmer
@@NeptuniaMorgan both is good
Arts is for fast clearing Quick is for shiny numbers and I love shiny numbers
She's good. But she'll be better with her strengthening in the future.
I've been using her on JP as a all purpose farmer and she's amazing. Hear me out:
Caren (maxed charge append/50% CE) + Oberon + skadi/summer skadi + summer camp mystic code
1. Skadi dmg buffs, Oberon's skill 1, Caren's skill 1 + mystic code charge. NP.
2. Carens skill 3 + skadi charge. NP
3. Caren's skill 2, remaing Oberon buffs (debuffs included) + mystic code dmg buff
Note: Oberon's skill 1 gives the two supports 20% charge for Caren to take
Only prisma illya and carnival phantasm give him some love
Was afraid we wouldn't see the Babu version of her np for a minute.
Part of me wish that they gave her Upgrade a 10% Flat Charge like how Tez's NP does it. The damage is still nice but farming convenience would go longer ways
Caren is the Better quick looper than voyager
I really do not understand why Lasagna has not just blanket-buffed Bond CEs to be 1k/1k. What is even the logic there? Just end this stupid meme already, dev team.
Unfortunately that still isn't enough for most bond CEs. Yeah it will make SOME worthwhile using, but the issue in general would be far from fixed. There are still plenty bond CEs that don't make any sense on their servant even if you add stats to them (Kama for example)
@@aizeroth8858 Yeah but it's the least they could do. It would make some servants have viable ones, at the very least, and that's better than there being the current... like 5 or 6 that exist right now.
I spent 600 SQ after saving for almost a year and got spooked by Jack the Ripper, Europa, Bradamante, a plethora of 4 stars and didn’t get her. I’m broke
20 tickets and got nothing. 10 rolls and got 2 copies. Caren only wants the finest resources
Got her on my 5th summon 🥴
Does black grail work for carens passive?
Yes
he mentions it in the video. Yes it works.
Couldn't get her. Angry Mango WON'T be happy about this!
The Only Catalyst for Caren to come is......Money
Buckloads of Money
A monumental of Money
As someone who did just that
I can say this is 100% accurate
I got her after depleting pleb Quartz and buying a whale pack. Can confirm this is true.
She really just wants our money
Well damn she was feeling mercyful to me then if she showed up with 5 multis
Congrats. My first copy..... was 2 multi's away from pity
Wish i could roll for her, but percival is almost here
My two accounts didn't get her?! Really i roll 90 in one and 120 in other and she didn't come!!! Did she find out I'm poor?😭
Happily got her with just the login bonuses
Does she need three supports to loop with black grail? I tried double skadi and but even at np 2 and lvl 94 she still came up short.
Yes,, she need 3rd support if using black grail.
So... Worth pulling ?
Was waiting for this video
Just to hit like as it is Caren
Though I agree with the arts comment, and hell, Ruler Moriarty loses to the 4 star welfare arts ruler Iyo in terms of looping and she is released in the same year. Wish Caren was arts but oh well, what do.
Eh. I don't have the money to roll for her and am saving for Oberon. So I'll be skipping her
So... if I understand correctly, Caren IS usable NP1, just not recommended? Or am I wrong?
She is, but you'll either have some issues clearing waves and/or getting enough refund. Castoria is recommended as a third charger because she fixes both those problems.
@@PhoenixBlazer39 So if i'm correct, using Caren with a Black Grail, double Skadi and Castoria (hella expensive lol)
T1: Skadi-A All skills, swap for Castoria. Castoria S1-S2, Skadi-B S1, Caren S1. NP
T2: Skadi-B S2-3, Caren NP.
T3: Caren S2-3, Caren NP.
Not sure how well it wil work on certain classes as I only tested on doors but it was consistent.
@@winzoln wow, that is an interesting set up. I did recently get spooked by a black grail, so I have a level 1 non-mlb I can use, would that work for that or no?
@@PhoenixBlazer39 Huh, that makes sense. So the triple Skadi set up from those JP videos I saw, but with Castoria instead of Summer Ruler Skadi because Summer Ruler Skadi is not out yet. Got it!
Did you know that they did a deep dive into the game code and found out that Caren was supposed to be the first servant to have a 2nd playable NP before Melusine? It was supposed to be an anti-Chaldea NP called “Let me speak with your director!”
Fino: "no room in back line because you're overbonding every raita servant"
I mean they aren't gonna bond themselves and you can't go wrong with two Raikou's waiting in the back for you.
Edit: After seeing how Caren is in the event. skip her and the story. It's no wonder she was compeletly forgotten until the EN event popped up. Better farmers, more interesting characters.
Wish her skill 1 rewarded 20% battery instead of 10% for drain she would have been a great farmer for people who don't have said also did something she he is a solo
Threw 2 tickets at her,got her.... So that's cool
Thats like my ROMA luck congrats
Frist