Colonia Dignidad: Chile’s Nazi Abuse Commune
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- Опубликовано: 21 ноя 2021
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i have infinite respect for that mother that manged to not only break her son out of the colony, but also go all the way to the capital to get the authorities involved. what an amazing woman
There is a movie and it's good. Colonia I think it's called. Her role was featured
The attention this mini-group gets is unbelievable. Any rumor or hearsay is picked upon and crafted into a dystopic narrative. The volume of attention is however telling? Not really about the colony, but more about those that are obviously obsessed with it.
@@metapolitikgedanken612 me when I'm definitely _not_ part of a secret neo nazi colony in the jungle
@@bogwife7942 Hehehe, yeah. They probably had all kind of cliched features attached to it. A 50 foot Hitler statue. And a gas chamber in the basement. And stories will keep on growing like they used to be about witchcraft allegation in the early modern era. Since witnesses aren't scrutinized and will not be threatened with penalties for perjury... Expect the stories to grow taller and taller.
"He was fired after being accused of sexually assaulting the boys that he was working with."
Considering what he ultimately led to, I'm more than willing to believe that's less an accusation and more a direct statement of fact.
I'm curious about whether or not the church informed the police of those allegations. It would be one thing if the police, in that day and age, simply didn't have the ability to investigate thoroughly enough, or even if they dismissed the report entirely because of how outlandish the accusations may have seemed (again, it was a different time).
On the other hand, if the church just dropped him out into the world and didn't tell anyone that their former employee was a nonce... Well, that's depressingly par for the course.
As a chilean, i gotta say Simon did a great job summarizing this huge topic down to his usual format, of course it deserves much more detail but Fact Boy still has to work for his other channels.
Hi from Dublin Ireland
Could I politely ask you a question. How did you or your elders feel when the awful English prime minister Margaret Thatcher invited the mass murderer Pinochet to England ( We Irish think Thatcher was a mass murderer too!) just so they could have dinner together. If you don’t could you ask your elders for me,please.
It caused outrage in Ireland 🇮🇪
Peace and happiness from Dublin
Thank you :)
@@CashelOConnolly that is a highly polarized piece of history here.
One half of the country believes that Pinochet has been the worst to ever happen to the country and the seed of most modern issues.
The other half believes Pinochet saved Chile from communism and the country owes it’s present wealth to the policies created during Pinochet’s goverment (some even wish we still had someone like him in power).
If you were asking for my personal opinion, i don’t really have one, i do my best to keep a neutral perspective to learn as much as possible from both sides avoiding biases to best comprehend history. (That said i obviously recognize that thousands died and that’s horrible, but the issue extends far away Chile and the political spectrum, so taking a stand seems to me that only would make anyone miss the ugly of the other side)
Thanks for asking!
@@IntotheShadows You do great work, never change Fact Boy!
@@IntotheShadows love you fact boy!
“The enemies of the colony were the Devil and Communism”
“The colonists were expected to give their labor for free, for the greater good of the colony”
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There’s always socialist in national socialist
Sounda like commie BS to me ...
@@actung4044right up until the night of the long knifes after they get in power
You must think The Democratic People’s Republic of North Korea is democratic too.
Getting a populace to work for free is actually a capitalist goal. Sure they can get "paid" but if its so low it all goes right back to only debt and basic essentials like food and housing, its basically slavery with extra steps.
What separates a facist state from a communist state is distribution of wealth and bigotry (and pedophilia)
Well done, Colonia Dignidad doesn't have the same degree of infamy of Jonestown but the long lasting insidiousness and mundanity of Paul Schäfer and company is worse.
Before Jim Jones got into drugs he was one of the leading figures in civil rights. He personally desegregated more businesses and civil institutions than any of the other big name civil rights activists and was lauded for popularizing mixed race adoptions. He also had a number of old folks homes where poor congregates were allowed to finish their lives with dignity and real healthcare.
It’s a shame he screwed all that up. But he at least did some good before he went all bad. Paul Schäfer Schneider can’t be shown to have ever done anything good. He was always a wretched creature.
@@StoneInMySandal All his good means zero compared to what he did. No redemption for that monster 👿
@@CashelOConnolly No doubt. He’s right up there with the worst of the most positively atrocious people of the 20th Century. The betrayal he made of his people’s trust was simply deplorable.
My point was just that he did do some good while Schäfer never did any.
I grew up in a cult that was tied to both Schafer and Jones (William Branham's "Message of the Hour"), as well as several more incidents in the US. He had so many evil cults branch off of his
@@StoneInMySandal At no point in time was Jim Jones ever "one of the leading figures in civil rights". I don't know where you got that from, but it's totally false. He was a piece of sh*t at the beginning and even more of a piece of sh*t at the end.
It's a shame that it took Carola Fuentes, an amazing journalist to find and cover this story. I remember seen her as well covering the news in London when Pinochet was held there. She also helped to uncover a case here un Chile of "girls slavery" (don't know how you call that in english), young women that were kidnapped or promise a job in another country, but were send there to be prostitutes. In many cases it takes great journalist to uncover this horrible situations, because the local police just don't do what they're supposed to do.
Human trafficking, trata de personas
@@IRosamelia that's the word, thank you! I couldn't remember it
@@Chiclevic de nada :) parece inentendible cómo una sola periodista logre hacer una labor investigativa mucho mejor que las propias autoridades. prueba de la mediocridad de la burocracia...
Like Rosa said that human trafficking but it's also called a bait and switch
Because they are in on it. Human trafficking is the blood of the royals. It always has been it always will be.
Fact boy has like 15 channels by now but does each one so well. The amount of effort and time put into these is definitely noticed! Great job as always!
He's not by himself. He's got a huge team, he just reads the script.
Just imagine how much he pulls in
@@curiodyssey3867 While I do have a team of writers, I do more than just "read the script".
Thank you. Credit to the writers and editors though :).
@@IntotheShadows ...Simon don't listen to these "People". With great beard comes great responsibility, they know not what they do.
This is not covered enough, thank you for sharing this story, even though it’s dark it’s important to keep alive the pain of the past so we don’t make the same mistakes again. I know these videos must be hard but it’s needed thank you Simon.
It would be weird if it was covered more regularly. Pinochet was heavily supported by the US and nobody likes to talk about that. The CIA released a bunch of documents in 2000 dealing with CIA activities in Pinochet’s Chile. They knew what was going on in the colony because they transported Pinochet opponents there and brought them the drugs and medical supplies used to torture the prisoners. Bad stuff.
yeah, then dont forget the uncountable warcrimes in Vietnam, The long march victims in china, the tianmen massacre, the forcing of palestine peoole into arid wastes, the uigur genocide, armenian genocide, the allied warcrimes in WW2 (like rather bombing civilian residential areas than the factories nearby so there is more to loot), the Highway of Death, guantanamo...
dont get me wrong, those are all atrocities that should not be forgotten and never repeated, but people tend to be very selectivewhat to remember...
But we do make the same mistakes again. We are making them now.
I’d never heard of this. Thank you for more dark education. What humans will do to other humans never ceases to sicken me.
If you like this and want a way more in-depth look, there's actually a Netflix series about it. And the Behind the Bastards podcast did a two-part episode on it. It's a fascinating story!
There is a film called "colonia" with Emma Watson
@Shelly Strickland Dude chill dang
It's kinda like a train wreck or a huge explosion captivating yet horrifying in its ability to be captivating. Humans are simultaneously capable of great good, and great evil. Ah the dichotomy of life...
I found out about this from the History Channel show “Hunting Hitler” .
I love that you stand up and walk away at the end of Into The Shadows videos, it's so fitting
One thing you left out was the role of the german embassy in Chile and the german government. They flat out ignored the stories of abuse and torture, even after getting reports from freshly escaped inmates in the Colonia, just to "protect the standing of a german community abroad".
because these people " chose" to be there and these atrocities in those days were incomprehensible to the public..
Also the German government that existed after the war had many Ex-Nazi members and the generation that followed had been severely brainwashed by war and propaganda. De-Nazification was not effective enough to stamp out the idea and those responsible for it
He did mention that did you watch the video 🤷♂️
The German embassy was protecting the Nazis and they knew very well these were the Nazis they were protecting.
@@tiggercampbell6198I doubt that rather seriously. Pedophilia goes back at least to ancient Greece. Source: Encyclopedia Britannica.
What kind of sick, disturbed person would want to have their wedding at the site where so much torture, death & misery took place?!
The same people who hold their weddings at plantations in the southern US. People who are either indifferent to or completely clueless about the suffering of other humans.
Pretty sure the advertising wouldn't say "Atrocity Ranch Weddings" or similar. Back in the 90s, search engines still in infancy, so might be understandable how someone could book an event without knowing about the history of the site.
@@rebeccapekarske5788 I live in the Southern U.S. It still floors me everytime. Especially when an afluent couple chooses to have their reception where , forgive me here, the slave quarters are located. Dancing and drinking literally where people where held in chains and beaten. It boggles the mind.
@@drewt1717 That's a good point. Can you imagine what it would be like to have a wedding there without having any idea about the ranch's backstory, and then come across this information after the fact?
@Corey Broyles their beauty came at horrific cost.
The "Behind the Bastards" podcast did about 2 hours of reporting about Colonia Dignidad and it's even worse than described here.
It’s such an interesting podcast
Thanks for the recommendation!
So sad, but im glad you have decided to simply walk off screen after this and other such regrettable topics are covered. *Excellent decision, My Man. Very tactful, respectful, and respectable.*
Thank you for not securing sponsors for this series. I don't know if you can keep that up, but it is appropriate to the subject material.
At some point one of these videos isn't going to have a comment about him walking off and it fading to black stuck at the top of the comments. Someday, one day...a person can hope...
I agree. It was very noticeable.
I'm still disturbed seeing footage of the goat undergoing the saron gas experiment. The strong tie between that kind of testing on animals with the psychotic treatment of people. Sickening abuse. It's unreal how evil people just get away with their horrendous crimes.
Sarin*
I wish there had been a warning about that clip…..
Ive been doing primary source research surrounding Pinochet's reign and you did a great job of covering this.
0:55 - Chapter 1 - Schaefer
3:00 - Chapter 2 - Life in the colony
6:25 - Chapter 3 - Pinochet
9:25 - Chapter 4 - Nazi links
10:10 - Chapter 5 - Weapons
10:45 - Chapter 6 - The end of colonia dignidad
14:00 - Chapter 7 - Villa bavaria
- Chapter 8 -
- Chapter 9 -
- Chapter 10 -
What's the point of this
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@@cleverusername9369 we like them
This is one of the most horrible and heartbreaking atrocities I have ever heard. I had to pause this 3 times to cry. I did complete watching because horrors like this deserve to be heard for those who suffered through and for the sake of history so it isn't repeated. How can people be so horrible? I realize similar things happen every second of every day.
Colonia Dignidad also had ties to the Cee.Eye.A, which supplied it with weapons, used it to outsource torture and as a torture and interrogation training ground for US supported right wing groups and secret police from Latin America and the Caribbean (basically as a faculty outpost of the "School Of The Americas). It was seen as a bastion in the US fight against socialism/communism/Marxism in the US sphere of influence.
Isn't it weird how no one mentions this? Makes you think...
Supporting it if it’s for the fight against communism/socialism/Marxism. Those evils need to be left out of the societies.
@@lamortexotique anti-communism is fascism, which the US loves. remember the nazis got their ideas from the US and the US supplied them w guns and fought against justice all over the world. Latin America will lead the charge in taking the empire down
I am happy you are starting to get into less well known material. Looking forward to future topics.
The fictionalized movie is called The Colony. As bad as the things the movie shows, the truth is worse.
A movie has to get past censors, real life unfortunately does not.
Thank you, thank you thank you for covering this topic! I was born in Chile in the 70s, but raised in the United States. It means so much to have people in the English-speaking world cover this topic I have one very small correction to make, and that is where he creates a difference between communism and democracy and Chile. The communist party was democratically elected in Chile. I know this is very small, but given the ramifications it had for the next 20 years, it’s an important one! Thank you again, Simon. This was beautiful and so needed.
I used to live in Cologne Germany, My neighbour was a Survivor of Colonia Dignidad,
She was a very nice lady, she told me a lot of things what she went through there and in her life.
i could listen to her for hours. R.I.P
I used to go to one of the compounds when I was a child. One day we just stopped going and years later I saw Paul Schafer on TV looking old and fragile. I didn't understand what happened for many many years because I was like 4 or 5. To this day I'm scared of old white men just because his face and actions were like a core memory and one of the first encounters I had with the harsh reality of the world.
Thank you Simon for sharing part of Chilean history!! You should do more, this country has gone through a lot
old white men tend to be terrible people
A monster came to Chile. It was nazi sympathizer having survived Germany's defeat in the second great war a decade earlier and now fleeing charges for monstrosities committed in the intertwining years. Now it had come to Chile and it had found a safehaven here, a paradise of it's own to corrupt in however way it saw fit with no outside intervention as in the so-called cultured old world. It gleefully threw caution to the winds and gorged itself on the sanctity of this innocent land.
Edit. That's how the story ends, by and large. The guy eventually died. Of old age, presumably. When will the world we create cease producing monsters?
He wasn't a Nazi sympathizer, he was a high ranking Nazi. Dr Mengele died free in South America and did experiments on people at Colonia Dignidad. Hitler's personal bodyguard and 7 other war criminals were found and arrested there also.
Such a devestating story told with such deep respect. My heart skipped a deep when you spoke of the little boy getting a not out to his mother. That was unspeakably brave considering where he was and how disobedience was handled there.
Wow, it's nice to see you cover this. Only other show I saw about this was an old one about cults on the history Channel
The fact that they had “communism” as an enemy, despite arguably having a fair few communist practices
I hope Simon and his writers and Editors all realize how much we appreciate their die hard dedication to teaching obscure/lesser known and interesting history and technology.
Props to the editor I love your style! Spent the last 20 minutes going over some of the titles frame by frame to appreciate the craft.
Hi Simon, couple of UK based subjects I would love to see you cover. 1 being the Mid Staffs NHS cover up and the other the Rotherham grooming gangs
What the mid staff NHS cover up? Heard about Rotherham
@@chip9649 Google it, absolutely disgusting loss of life that the government at the time and the NHS tried to hide
Isn’t Rotherham Danny’s territory?
don’t you mean west merciers police continued misshandling of vulernable girls and young women
The torture tactics used were right out of the Gestapo playbook. They were usually performed in the basement of Gestapo headquarters on the Prinz-Albrecht-Strasse, most notably on the Catholic Priest who outed the Nazis to the public about the T4 program.
Late to the party but I want to add this. Colonia Dignidad opened the doors to its hospitals, schools, and stores for the rural community where it was located. The people living there and in the city nearby, considered Colonia did better for the community than the local government, which didn't help to believe all the gruesome stories.
Some years ago I visited Villa Baviera for the first time with my mum and uncle. They had fond memories of the villa from their childhood. I told them about the horrors it hid behind the Villa. the response was "yeah, but they did so much for the poor living in this area. There wasn't any good hospital here until they opened one" completely ignoring the "they abused and tortured people here" part.
Also, after Colonia disbanded, some German people living there were absolutely lost. They didn't know Spanish (let alone CHILEAN Spanish, god bless their souls), they weren't allowed access to the news or new technologies during their time "imprisoned" there, so living on their own was a gruesome situation. That's also part of the continuation of Villa Baviera
What i can add is that they also produced weapons and magazines for Pinochet in the Colonia. Also that the german ambassador visited Colonia Dignidad while Germany knew about the atrocities there and the government of Germany at that time didn't do anything at all. The 10k Euro settlement is a slap in the face for the victims as well as the fact that people live in my state in Germany that did those cardinal sins.
I'm amazed, both at this story and the fact that I'd not hear it yet.
You do a fantastic job of informing while remaining respectful to the memories of the dead. In every video. 👌🏼👏🏼
It always starts with one man... I am so boggled over how one man can do so much horrific damage just one man that's all it takes to rune thousands and thousands of lives...just one man!
Great video Simon. You give these horrible stories the utmost respect and dignity they deserve. "Those that do not learn from the mistakes of the past, are doomed to repeat it."
You always do a great job across all your channels dude, yourself and your team(s) that is. Much respect
my great aunt (oma's sister) was part of this cult. She wasn't allowed to leave and my oma wasn't allowed in so they could only communicate through letters. I never met her and didn't know many details. This showed me that it was so much worse than I imagined.
I think this deserves an even longer and more detail version on the Megaproject channel. But great work Simon and the team!
Honestly, when I first got the gist of this channel, I've been waiting for you to cover this one.
The Nazis just loved ironic camp names, didn't they? "Arbeit macht frei", "Colonia Dignidad"... Effin hell
no 3.d reich camp was ever called "arbeit macht frei", but they loved to have proverbs like this (work liberates) or "jedem das seine" (to each his own) forged into the gates.
Thank you Simon and team; great job as always. As with so many of your darker videos, I can't exactly say I *enjoyed* it but I definitely found it educational and interesting. I'd heard of this compound in passing around the early nineties but I seem to remember it being described as something along the lines of "just another sex cult" (as if there's ever such a thing as "just" a sex cult)... after watching this I'm currently battling the urge to go hug my kid. I can't imagine what they went through.
I just recently discovered your channels and I enjoy all of them!!
Variations of this go on to this day. The depths of human evil never seems to end. Sad.
Panopticon
I appreciate the somber tone of this channel and your writers research and script writing.
I just found Simon about a month ago and I love all his channels! Excellent job!
Love these videos Simon! It baffles me so many situations in history people spoke up to have their words reach deaf ears. It's one thing to speak of adult abuse and torture in relativity of a nation or political party dependant on the situation, but children?? How any person could allow such abhorred behavior happen, or continue after reporting is beyond damningly evil.
There’s no so blind as those who will not see
Great channel Simon. I'm watching all of them and putting them on a dedicated list.
I grew up in Branham's cult "the message of the hour". I will never recover from the trauma, but I still can't imagine what these people went through
Me too i grow up in a branham's cult in africa,i'm glad i left in 2012,i was always stressed because of trying to follow his teaching and always i was feeling that my salvation was not secure.
Vivi 47 anos .graças a Deus livre a um ano
Thank you for doing these stories. I know they probably get demonetized but they need to be heard.
Thank you for always being respectful when covering stories like these.
Also, it's nice to see one of these stories that has the bastard end up in jail.
4 years is a travesty, though. He got away with it for so long.
As a Chilean i appreciate the light u shine on the havoc that has been wreaked by the right in Chile during and after the Pinochet dictatorship
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I am thankful you all had the grace to share such a vile and sadly little known piece of history.
I had never heard of this until listening to this video. Thank you. Such horror should always be exposed.
How many channels do you have now!?!? You are a wonderful creator, and I thoroughly enjoy all of your content. Happy Thanksgiving from the US of A!
A top notch episode. Thoriughky enjoyed it, thanks Simon.
This is the first time I've heard of this place. Absolutely horrific. People think shows like Squid Game are over the top and unrealistic... not at all, unfortunately. So much evil in the world.
I would be more surprised if there weren't something similar to Squid Game happening today.
I can't " like" this piece. It was however important and delivered with the dignity it deserved. Thank you Simon.
great vid, a subject i only discovered 5 yrs ago through author Peter Levenda. He travelled there in the 70s/80's in a rather naive mission to find out if what he was hearing was true. he was apprehended , the local and national police and customs were in league with the colony and he barely made it back to the US . I think if he had not been an american citizen, he would have been killed. Also, everyone in the compound was expected to speak German and not Spanish, the children who grew up there could only understand German. The Colony was very sympathetic to Nazis and yes, many ex SS did stay and work as "consultants". However, Pinochet was a proto-Nazi (however, he did assist the UK in certain ways when the Falklands war erupted which is one reason Thatcher had so much time for him) the Argentinian Junta and Peru were all havens for Nazis in hiding. There are a couple of films on the subject but nothing special.
Amazing! I found the video very informative and very educational. Thank you for sharing.
You did an amazing job with such a hard topic.
Any channel Simon is hosting is pure gold
Their was a movie about this place starring Emma Watson a few years ago I believe?
Colonia (released in the United Kingdom as The Colony) is a 2015 historical thriller film directed by Florian Gallenberger, produced by Benjamin Herrmann, written by Torsten Wenzel and Gallenberger, and starring Emma Watson, Daniel Brühl, and Michael Nyqvist. The film is set against the backdrop of the 1973 Chilean military coup and the real "Colonia Dignidad", a notorious cult in the South of Chile, led by German lay preacher Paul Schäfer. Schäfer was a follower and teacher of "The Message" of William Branham.
Fast becoming my favourite Simon channel ❤❤
Hmm. The Emma Watson movie "Colonia" seems to be reasonably accurate based on this account. The past was the worst.
What a hard subject to cover, you did a really good job with it
For all the bits of history I THINK I know, there sure are a lot of things I've never even heard of.. Thanks again Simon.
this channel is one of the best. Perhaps you could research a bit more about south american military regimes/dictatorships during cold war. Some of the torture described here was also developed in Argentina and Brazil
That was just excellent work.
Thank you for another fantastic video upload, Simon. 🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰
Simon, the GOAT RUclips host. Love all you do.
The Netflix docuseries is fascinating. Very long but it needs to be long in order to cover everything. I had 0 idea this colony/cult existed and I have a fascination In cults so it's surprising I didn't know about it.
Do you remember what the series was called? I grew up in a cult in the US that had ties to this one but I had no idea it was such a big part of Chilean history
You have an unmatched work ethic dude.
The choice of light in the background compliments the subject matter on this channel very well.
I've noticed with videos on Biographic you provide your sources for further reading. I'm sad they are not listed in the description on this video!
Emma Watson was in a film called The Colony. The film was phenomenal if you want to learn more about what happened and what they did. Trigger warning if you watch it its extremely graphic and based on a true story
It's called Colonia
@@alexsetterington3142 It’s such a good movie imo. I did a lot of crying because of the things they did to those kids and poor people who were prisoners there. I’m honestly surprised the reporter survived.
It’s so important this is covered. Thank you for doing this. Horrible people will do anything they want until stopped.
Even though it's pretty damn dark, this is probably my favorite channel that Simon does.
Paul Schäfer was a former colonel in Hitler's army who survived the post-war years under the cover of being a Lutheran pastor and running an orphanage near what was then the West German capital ...
Out of all the "dark content" channels that i follow this is the first to address Colonia Dignidad. Born and raised in Chile i know that this has been a thorn in the country's spine for decades. Thank you Simon for your work and overall content.
Excellent presentation and look forward to future lessons regardingthe Truth.
Part of me wonders "why didn't my school cover this?"
But then it's so fucked up that just, DAMN. I'm not sure kid me would've mentally been strapped in for it! I'm glad to have learned about it now, even if only to learn the misfortune that such tragedy happened but wow. Something this wild not showing on my radar until now? Unheard of.
It's so wild hearing about this stuff in South America, and then you turn around and remember you live in Canada. Parts of the residential school system was like that only at scale.
As I was raised in the Branham cult, I can only imagine what these prisoners went through. Religion is terrible, and the ones that proclaim to be the "best" are some of the worst!
extremely amazingly made video !
Recently heard about this place from Behind the Bastards, so nice to hear some extras here!
The misjustice is horrendous, especially as I've never heard of this before.
The more who know about this, the better.
""The more who know about this, the better.""
Nope, because it will change nothing.
Great episode Simon really about this horrible and inhumane situation and treating it with such respect and if I'm correct there was a movie made about Colonia Dignidad with Emma Watson I think
If you're interrested in seeing some interviews and source material and you know either German or French Arte did a great documentary series on this a while ago with interviews with members and other things to illustrate it further.
I just listened to a Behind The Bastards podcast about this and the whole time I was thinking 'this would make for some awesome Whistler content´.
It's difficult to think of what to even say. This story was like Jim Jones but far more gruesome. If Jones was an 8 on the evil cult leader scale, then Schafer must surely be a 10.
I am from chile and have visited the restaurant they owned. Excellent food. You can still go btw, if you ever are near Chillan is a Must.
This channel is really interesting! That being said, I'd subscribe to "Simon Whistler: After Dark" in a heartbeat! Just a friendly suggestion! :)
Thank you Simon. This is the first I have ever heard about this monster.
I knew that eventually you make a video on this topic and I am for sure that this video will not be a disappointment
Simon teaches me more than all my high school’s teachers combined.
Interesting, didn't know about this. I like the end of transmission walk out too
What a cool Chanel!!! Totally subscribed!!!!
That silent stand and exit scene left at the end hit different Simon....
Great Scot! Schaefer makes Jim Jones look like a choir boy.