Can MEP Defeat a USTA 4.5 Division 2 College Player?

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  • Опубликовано: 15 янв 2025

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  • @automaticsweetheart2009
    @automaticsweetheart2009 2 года назад +36

    Was showing up at his house a joke that MEP was in on? Unless it was set up for the cameras, that whole exchange made me uncomfortable.

    • @TennisTrollChannel
      @TennisTrollChannel  2 года назад +57

      It was MEP’s idea.

    • @joemarshall4226
      @joemarshall4226 2 года назад +23

      @@TennisTrollChannel He's a good actor. it looked very real. I was uncomfortable too, but now that you tell me this, it's funny....he is a card.

    • @TennisTrollChannel
      @TennisTrollChannel  2 года назад +24

      @@joemarshall4226 Agree - it's why I decided to pin this comment as I was concerned viewers would think I'm crazy enough to drive across the city to knock on MEP's door : ]

    • @automaticsweetheart2009
      @automaticsweetheart2009 2 года назад +10

      @@TennisTrollChannel OMG, hilarious. I was HOPING that it was a joke that you were both in on! Yay! He was actually very convincing!

    • @craigmilkowski2805
      @craigmilkowski2805 2 года назад +7

      Seen enough MEP matches to know it wasn't intentional, and we all miss calls. That said, this one was bad, not just incorrect. :)

  • @meinsouza
    @meinsouza 2 года назад +34

    I love that when MEP first appeared on this channel people were bashing him and now everyone mostly respect him a lot and understand that it is a pain to defeat him

  • @gustavor9850
    @gustavor9850 2 года назад +36

    4:28 serve was in as well, hard call but still, ball was good (:

  • @ql3670
    @ql3670 2 года назад +47

    There are two things MEP does that a common, average "pusher" can't:
    1. MEP puts underspin on his ball. Underspin makes the ball harder to attack. An average pusher simply pushes the ball with no spin. Even on pro tour, Monica Niculescu makes a lot of her opponents crazy with her underspin.
    2. MEP has great control on his placement. He can place one shot deep to one corner then the next shot short to the other corner. This maximizes the diagonal distance his opponent has to move. The average pusher doesn't have such control, they usually just place the ball in the middle of the court.
    A novice may not be able to tell the difference. But once you play someone like MEP, you'll find out it's much more difficult than it looks at first.

    • @yili9725
      @yili9725 2 года назад +7

      MEP just exposes that the coaches are teaching craps.

    • @thisyou4478
      @thisyou4478 2 года назад +2

      I would literally destroy Mep and I’ve been playing tennis for two months he hits way to short every ball I would attack the net and abuse that non existent backhand

    • @thisyou4478
      @thisyou4478 2 года назад +1

      No he’s not he would be so easy to hit through

    • @MEPTennis
      @MEPTennis 2 года назад +14

      @@thisyou4478 Bring it, we'll find out.

    • @pontusschroder8361
      @pontusschroder8361 2 года назад +9

      @@thisyou4478 If you after two months playing tennis can beat MEP then you have a talent that almost no other person has.

  • @SeireaTennis
    @SeireaTennis 3 месяца назад +2

    20:47 I had to stop and play this a few times. It's just poetry. Dialed spot on the pass, and the ANTICIPATION on the next shot, into a perfectly measured mid-court volley. Purely controlled, totally balanced. I want to make a grand, sweeping statement about what this says about him as a tennis player, but for now I'll settle for a "I saw and appreciated that very much, Ben."

  • @Maelkes
    @Maelkes 2 года назад +22

    Moral of the story:
    Never make bad calls or tennis troll will come knocking at your door.

    • @alwaysprepared
      @alwaysprepared 2 года назад +2

      Well, perhaps I WANT him to come to my door... LOL

    • @Wannabe-Pro
      @Wannabe-Pro 2 года назад +4

      Ha, we all miss calls. Kudos to both players for being such good sports.

    • @alwaysprepared
      @alwaysprepared 2 года назад +2

      @@Wannabe-Pro Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if I make at least 1 or 2 calls per match wrong. They've done studies that show even the pros can't call lines consistently. Even just realizing how often the pros question calls that they truly think they are right but turn out to be wrong proves that... A wrong calls does not automatically mean someone called it wrong intentionally... We are all human (at least most of us are....lol).

    • @TennisTrollChannel
      @TennisTrollChannel  2 года назад +5

      Just so everyone knows - it was staged. MEP's idea actually. Good actor - had many viewers convinced it was for real.

    • @Michael-Boyer
      @Michael-Boyer 2 года назад

      @@alwaysprepared mostly true but the pros don’t need to call their own lines. And calling 120+mph serves and 75-85+mph groundies much tougher than 90mph serves and 40mph groundies, if that.

  • @aimfreakify
    @aimfreakify 2 года назад +5

    5:27 haha I love this! Would love these little snippets to show your personality more :D

  • @javierUN
    @javierUN 2 года назад +18

    That MEP slice forehand is pure venom

  • @andrewlee5853
    @andrewlee5853 2 года назад +7

    OMG the volley at 13:20 at 16:00. MEP what an improvement from his previous play.

  • @mosssuratchananon1652
    @mosssuratchananon1652 2 года назад +10

    I've seen MEP played for 2 matches and. I noticed that he doesn't make any unforce error. That's the reason why he wins. Also, he places the ball well tho.

    • @DarioCasarotti
      @DarioCasarotti 24 дня назад

      Of course he doesn't... he just sends the ball to the other side no matter where it goes.

  • @mpnv1990
    @mpnv1990 Год назад +4

    4:30 The ball was clearly in. Even watching it live.

  • @bobanmihajlov338
    @bobanmihajlov338 2 года назад +6

    4:31 great call that

  • @vectorthurm
    @vectorthurm 2 года назад +7

    Ben is very smart and careful with his strokes. I never had fun playing that way myself. For me it’s more important to “go for it” and let go. No matter what level you are at, the no. 1 rule is to have fun! Love ❤️ 🎾

  • @anonymswhisper
    @anonymswhisper 2 года назад +28

    MEP is probably the best pusher I've witnessed play (I've seen a lot of pushers at 4 singles in HS) and I know I would be raging my ass off if I had to play against him...

    • @andrewlee5853
      @andrewlee5853 2 года назад +10

      @@nathanjen3170 I agree. I think MEP graduated from pusher. According to the stats link above, he hit 17 winners.

    • @kesun32145
      @kesun32145 2 года назад +7

      He’s a pretty bad player. Not really a good pusher. He’s slow. His shots are so slow and one dimensional. And just relies on players making unforced errors. But he has a decent attitude and seems like a nice guy. I just think he needs to stop wasting his time playing like this and try to learn some proper tennis mechanics so he can bring his fame to the next level. He will always be stuck at this level if he continues to play like this touch butt tennis.

    • @joemarshall4226
      @joemarshall4226 2 года назад +10

      ​@@kesun32145 "Stuck" at being in the best 5-10% of tennis players in the country, after never playing until he was 32 years old......And with limited speed, and 44 years old, like you say. Tell me, how many 32 year olds, who never played tennis before, and get "proper" instruction, go on to a level that is as high as MEP's? One in a thousand? One in ten thousand? Let's not be ridiculous. As soon as MEP proves how good he is, people change the definition of pusher. They just can't admit that his is a valid way of playing, and that it works. The truth is that starting with high level "proper strokes" is not an easy way to learn, turns a lot of people off, and won't get you the results that pushing will unless you commit to it night and day. MEP will add more shots to his game, better net play, etc. But he should stay with his unorthodox strokes because they are effective....and fun! He should keep working on his net game and his serve, then learn to serve and volley, then hit a topspin BH passing shot. The "lesson players" he competes against should learn how to push, how to slice from both sides, how to work moonballs into their game, and how to how to retrieve. MEP learned defense first, then offense. The lesson players must take the opposite approach if they want to reach their maximum potential.

    • @kesun32145
      @kesun32145 2 года назад +2

      @@joemarshall4226 MEP deserves credit for what he's achieved. It takes hard work and dedication to win with his style after never taking proper tennis lessons. He can continue playing this style and beat a certain level of tennis player. However, if he really wants to get better, there's no way he can play this style and win against anyone who is a serious tennis player. He got exposed by a very talented 12 year old. There's definitely no shame in losing to a nationally ranked 12 year old, but the fact that it was not even competitive is the problem. A very good pusher would have been able to frustrate and make a very close match against the 12 year old. Because MEP is not a very good pusher he got clobbered. The 12 year old showed that MEP was 1 dimensional, slow, and had a weak mental game. Against other old, amateur tennis players, MEP looks like a good pusher but against quality opponents his pushing style doesn't work. I don't have a problem with pushers. But I am saying if your pusher style isn't good enough to challenge a talented 12 year old, then you need to change your game and add new elements to challenge next level opponents. MEP is definitely not 10-15% in the country. To be 10-15% you would have to be a 4-5 star player on tennis recruiiting and probably a UTR of 11 or higher. That is extremely difficult even for top juniors who take tennis up at a young age and play seriously for a decade. If you had any idea how competitive tennis is and how tough the UTR ranking system is, then you would realize MEP is very beatable by 80 percent of serious tennis players in the country. No hate I'm just telling the truth and I would like MEP to either beef up his pushing game or completely change his game so that he can compete against talented young juniors who have solid technique and fundamentals.

    • @kesun32145
      @kesun32145 2 года назад +2

      @@joemarshall4226 So I guess what I'm trying to say is MEP isn't as good a pusher as you think. He looks very beatable and has numberous weaknesses. In contrast, Nightmare pushers have zero vulnerabilities in their defenses. I've seen a handful of nightmare pushers who can hit the ball much harder, have much more variety and spin, more accuracy, run extremely fast every point and are extremely mentally tough rarely giving away any freebies. MEP is not a great pusher at the high level compared to these nightmare pushers which is why I believe he should change his game. If he could play like giles simon (one of the best pushers in the world) I would not be critical of his game. But because I saw him offer almost zero resistance against a talented 12 year old who has yet to develop any real power, I know his style is ineffective and limited against higher level players. No hate. I applaud MEP for his body of work thus far. But I want to see MEP do much better against tougher competition.

  • @PeterFreemantennis
    @PeterFreemantennis 2 года назад +10

    we all think you are insane MEP but that is why we LOVE you

  • @savage_seahawk808seahawk4
    @savage_seahawk808seahawk4 2 года назад +10

    Personally I find it a bit comical that MEP manages to beat a very solid 4.5 D2 player who seems to be quite athletic but loses to a nationally ranked (top 40) 12s player. No knock on MEP by any stretch of the imagination, just a bit of an interesting dynamic.

    • @TennisTrollChannel
      @TennisTrollChannel  2 года назад +1

      Likely has to do with matchups/style as I believe their UTRs are within 0.5 of each other.

  • @johncoryell
    @johncoryell 2 года назад +6

    I want to hear more about the hyperbaric chamber.

  • @samurai7411
    @samurai7411 2 года назад +4

    Solid play. D2 could take this next time with 3 tweaks:
    1. Get a flat serve with some mphs.
    2. Footwork (but that is for all tennis players).
    3. Loosen up. He is almost too measured and tries to guide the ball instead of striking (esp on the BH)

  • @cbockiii2514
    @cbockiii2514 2 года назад +6

    MEP did an awesome job recovering and taking that first game. That's why he's good.

  • @joemellow2085
    @joemellow2085 7 месяцев назад +2

    Great movement Ben. Incredible defense. Made him hit shot after shot after shot. Nice match!

  • @Jackripster69
    @Jackripster69 2 года назад +4

    The MEP machine, awesome stuff.

  • @rsmith02
    @rsmith02 2 года назад +4

    Great match and nice job, Ben. D2 came in in crosscourt approaches too many times (or returned short angled shots crosscourt) which made him very easy to pass. I'd like to see more intentionality with the approach shots and it's okay to slice them and force MEP to hit up. The forehand was also unstable with lots of arm and not much body in the motion. MEP's game is made to take advantage of such inherent inconsistencies and he did well at exposing it here.

  • @sdfswords
    @sdfswords 2 года назад +8

    MEP forced him to play his game, couldn't really reply with consistent pace and depth, too busy retrieving and running. Just goes to show, the guy with control who can shape the points, no matter how unusual the hitting style, WINS! Ben knows how to take what looks like a defensive floater and turn it offensive by constantly moving his opponent, a kind of genius really. He also takes big opponent blasts and turns them into neutral balls super-effectively, and forces the opponent to go for too much, which then makes him increasingly cautious. You'll never beat Ben playing his game.

    • @Z-Bone-e7j
      @Z-Bone-e7j 2 года назад +3

      He didn't force him to do anything, MEP's play style doesn't allow him to dictate the game in any way shape or form. What happened during this match is the college player didn't control the points enough and played the exact type of tennis that MEP "excels" at. The college player should have played deep topspin and went to the net more often and he would have won handedly.

    • @johnnyblackrants7625
      @johnnyblackrants7625 6 месяцев назад +1

      @@Z-Bone-e7j Yeah it wasn't MEPs doing, the other guy was just also a grinder. Great consistent backhand, but couldn't hit through the short forehand. I can see why he beats other 4.5s, but the consistency without power is useless against MEP.

  • @tenniswithric
    @tenniswithric 2 года назад +6

    LOL that visit to Ben's house is genius 🤣

    • @TennisTrollChannel
      @TennisTrollChannel  2 года назад +2

      It was MEP's idea actually. Made for good content I hope.

    • @tenniswithric
      @tenniswithric 2 года назад +2

      @@TennisTrollChannel yea no worries, can tell it's a bit of fun acting from you guys. Love it.

  • @randymarcum6097
    @randymarcum6097 2 года назад +16

    Great play Mep and Divi2 Nice angIes and movement
    I found MEP's apology insincere to Josh. One bad call in over 100 matches is totally unacceptable. Maybe a large Troll Tennis association fine and loss of a few major corporate endorsement would help. Once you become a star the ego takes over😂

    • @LowUTR
      @LowUTR 2 года назад

      It is easy to angle the ball when it is hit 20 mph.

    • @randymarcum6097
      @randymarcum6097 2 года назад +8

      @@LowUTR Everything is easy when you are at your level LDP. You are the best tennis keyboard player on You Tube

    • @LowUTR
      @LowUTR 2 года назад +1

      @@randymarcum6097 That will have a nice ring to it, LDP vs. MEP.

    • @TennisTrollChannel
      @TennisTrollChannel  2 года назад +1

      TennisTroll fine- I like that.

    • @TennisTrollChannel
      @TennisTrollChannel  2 года назад +2

      @@LowUTR it would be MEP vs LDP.

  • @arvinsingh3637
    @arvinsingh3637 2 года назад +8

    Another match where the opponent “appears” to have the better game, but can’t solve the MEP riddle. Fun one to watch.
    What racquet is D2 using? He seems to have nice topspin, good feel, and easy power with it.

    • @elicauthorn7878
      @elicauthorn7878 2 года назад +2

      d2 is using a version of the head radical mp. not sure which version but one of those

    • @kesun32145
      @kesun32145 2 года назад +2

      They both need a lot of work to improve their game. Mep needs to stop playing with terrible tennis mechanics or he’ll always be running around trying to scrap for every point. The other guy has better form, but no penetration and purpose on his shots. He makes stupid mistakes and has a weak mental game. Hopefully they start practicing better habits and improve.

  • @MrTomasFloden
    @MrTomasFloden 2 года назад +4

    It would be interesting to see how MEP would do against a player who knows how to slice and has a decent netgame. The matches I’ ve seen have been against typical base liners, who all seemed to be pretty uncomfortable at the net.

    • @eslynbeck9197
      @eslynbeck9197 Год назад +1

      Netplay would honestly be a very easy way to win against him

  • @antonjakubik8066
    @antonjakubik8066 2 года назад +2

    Beb absolutly super play. Best of all your match i watched. Super slice, stopball and net play too

  • @crockernevln4878
    @crockernevln4878 Год назад +3

    It looks to me like MEP uses the slower pace of his shots to get back into position. He has an extra second or two before his opponent hits the ball. I think that's why serve/volley works well against.

  • @GershonBenYitzhak
    @GershonBenYitzhak Месяц назад +1

    11:38 ROFL you know you can change your mind and say, "Sorry that was in"

  • @dennisthegreek5336
    @dennisthegreek5336 2 года назад +12

    D2 could have finished many points much earlier if he attacked the net, esp 1st set. Maybe he lacks confidence in his volleys. He also uses a lot of topspin in his forehands and seems to underuse flat ones; he runs around his BH so often, giving the impression that BH is his strong side!

    • @eslynbeck9197
      @eslynbeck9197 Год назад +2

      The problem is that his volleys sucked. He missed very easy volleyd

    • @thewizardofhomework
      @thewizardofhomework 2 месяца назад

      @@eslynbeck9197 those volleys and unforced errors where hard to watch. How is he a college tennis player? He just embarrassed whatever program he was a part of. I saw MEP bageled by guys (one of which was a senior citizen!!!!) who were willing to volley on the Essential Tennis Channel.

  • @alvaromena7548
    @alvaromena7548 2 года назад +14

    MEP is playing way more better and more aggressive

  • @RaphaClassic
    @RaphaClassic 6 месяцев назад +3

    MEP actually has a better forehand than the other player.

  • @DNA2000-8bit
    @DNA2000-8bit 2 года назад +6

    That moment when you claim 4.5, play like 3.5 and get smoked by a right-hander playing lefty. Ouch...

    • @JW-bw8nj
      @JW-bw8nj 2 года назад +1

      Federer knows all about getting smoked by a right hander playing lefty 😳

  • @loganfive5783
    @loganfive5783 Год назад +7

    Bad call from MEP at 4:27 into the video. That first serve was right on the center service line. Ace!! I slowed the video. Clearly on the line.

  • @PeterFreemantennis
    @PeterFreemantennis 2 года назад +2

    the legend continues

  • @marknixon4966
    @marknixon4966 2 года назад +1

    D2 4.5 started out working very good backhand cross-court angles very successfully early on.But MEP I just turned on the melt your confidence spell and grinded him till there was nothing left

  • @jaykraft9523
    @jaykraft9523 7 месяцев назад +3

    Have seen a number of these MEP matches now. His strengths obviously very good defense, steadiness and placement, putting pressure on opponents with fast dying slices and drop shots. The aggressive games are beating him, i.e. unload on those weak setup slices, advance to the net. Surprised most of the "4.5s" cannot do the first part, i.e. unload on the ball. It's a good thing to practice, you need a putaway or near-putaway (high pressure) shot in the game of tennis.

  • @johnhhh3591
    @johnhhh3591 2 года назад +2

    D 2 should try to remember to REALLY emphasize his stepping forward on his volleys to counter the kinda slashing backspin that MEP hits on his passing shots. Great entertainment!

  • @ahnguyen1
    @ahnguyen1 2 года назад +41

    hard to believe that guy played D2 tennis

    • @mrchuckles1022
      @mrchuckles1022 7 месяцев назад +2

      I wonder if MEP still has any NCAA eligibility left. Maybe he could play D2 or D1. I would DEFINITELY watch that.

    • @davidcuebas9878
      @davidcuebas9878 2 месяца назад +2

      If he did there is still hope for us all to play D2 tennis.

    • @rikmcdik6662
      @rikmcdik6662 Месяц назад

      Both of these guys would probably beat you. D2 guy probably isn’t used to playing this type of player and got frustrated.

  • @keyshawnphipps7169
    @keyshawnphipps7169 2 года назад +4

    Alot of decent tennis players tend to drop down to their opponents level if their way better then them my high school team tended to do that a-lot especially when the opponent hits slower than your used to

    • @Domherre6219
      @Domherre6219 2 года назад

      Very true Keyshawn. What would you say is the best way to handle that situation?

    • @ARMANDO17able
      @ARMANDO17able 2 года назад

      @cocosquad hit high percentage points with intensity and assertiveness and work every point w/o taking shortcuts. Working on volleys would help too. MEP relies on 4.5 and under players not developing a net game.

  • @Lisa-ts2he
    @Lisa-ts2he 2 года назад +9

    Simply put D2 player is playing the same defensive style as MEP and is less consistent at it. D2 lacks a confident up the middle ground stroke/return to take away the angles that MEP likes... and followed by a good volley/overhead. You cannot out D MEP.

  • @thebeardedgolfer9819
    @thebeardedgolfer9819 2 года назад +3

    Wood be really interesting to see how MEP wood fair in matches where both players had to use era relevant racquets and strings. Given he doesn’t appear to rely at all on the modern version of tennis called “spin blasting” where the response to any shot is swing as hard as humanly possible with ridiculous amounts of top spin, era relevant might not affect him but drastically affect opponents. Try 80’s midsize, then wood.

    • @TennisTrollChannel
      @TennisTrollChannel  2 года назад

      This I agree with.

    • @stevlehr
      @stevlehr 2 года назад +1

      Old guy here. I was very reluctant to stop playing with my wood Davis Imperial Deluxe or Wilson Pro Staff. It's possible to hit the ball very hard with such wood rackets. I played a few years vs guys with early Prince oversize frames and did alright. Have to learn how.
      I understand that newer rackets offer advantages. I miss the skills we developed with wood. Almost every current player will disagree with me and I don't wonder why.

    • @stevlehr
      @stevlehr 2 года назад

      I imagine MEP might do very well with a quality wood racket, if he could buy one.

  • @SimonServes
    @SimonServes 2 года назад +5

    MEP is such a smart player, fun match

  • @ryanlloyd2512
    @ryanlloyd2512 2 года назад +1

    4:28 was in lol

  • @TennisTrollChannel
    @TennisTrollChannel  2 года назад +6

    Thank you UD Racing for the stats! www.tennisbull.com/match/404

    • @Tennisbull-match-statistics
      @Tennisbull-match-statistics 2 года назад +3

      Thanks for adding the link. I've added my match analysis to the bottom of that page. I think D2 might have made a tactical mistake in the 2nd set?

    • @alvaromena7548
      @alvaromena7548 2 года назад

      @@Tennisbull-match-statistics interesting. Can you go deeper?

    • @kjtennis1254
      @kjtennis1254 2 года назад +1

      Amazing stats and match breakdown.

    • @LowUTR
      @LowUTR 2 года назад

      I can't comprehend how badly the other player played from 4-3 to 2-0. It was like he wasn't even on the court.

    • @LowUTR
      @LowUTR 2 года назад

      Fine, I deleted the comment, although I disagree.

  • @alanross2876
    @alanross2876 3 месяца назад +2

    4:30 was in!

  • @tennnis498
    @tennnis498 2 года назад +4

    The point at 12:54. I think that is classic MEP. Just when you try to up the ante, you question whether he can hang with you. And then he does. He’s a human Venus fly trap. There is no escape. He’s just too good 👍

    • @Wannabe-Pro
      @Wannabe-Pro 2 года назад +2

      He switched to right handed!

  • @yakzivz1104
    @yakzivz1104 2 года назад +3

    Excuse me: that ball was most definitely way in at 5:23!!!! The ball was well inside of the line- it did not hit the line. MEP needs to show more respect to his opponents by not cheating so much!!!

    • @Wannabe-Pro
      @Wannabe-Pro 2 года назад +2

      We all miss calls man. MEP even had enough respect to film the funny video w tennistroll and apologize directly to Josh.

    • @funvidman
      @funvidman 2 года назад

      @@Wannabe-Pro Sure, but that call was terrible. I'm concerned that MEP might actually need glasses for real, that ball was 4 inches in at least.

    • @elicauthorn7878
      @elicauthorn7878 2 года назад +1

      i'm sure he meant no malicious intent but yeah that shot was miles in

    • @TennisTrollChannel
      @TennisTrollChannel  2 года назад +2

      Did you see 5:26?

  • @serveyourname5565
    @serveyourname5565 2 года назад +7

    Winning does matter; Imitating pros really doesn't

  • @mr.normal3941
    @mr.normal3941 2 года назад +3

    I bet MEP has single digit double faults in his whole career. Never saw him doing double faults.

  • @mwang7034
    @mwang7034 2 года назад +1

    1:12 MEP has right hand forehand too

  • @optichain8362
    @optichain8362 Год назад +3

    i didnt know there was this huge of a difference between D1 and D2 college tennis. D1 wouldve aced every service game, and probably hit a winner on return to that weak serve. Not saying I could, but someone in D1 could.

  • @jflow5601
    @jflow5601 Год назад +3

    I want to hear from all the tennis instructors who emphasize heavy top spin in their teaching repertoire. It didn't seem to help this college guy defeat MEP

  • @apshinn
    @apshinn 2 года назад +2

    5:26 ROFLROFLROFL!!!! 😂😂😂

  • @chriscarpenter313
    @chriscarpenter313 2 месяца назад +1

    Mep looks like a right hander playing with his left hand.

  • @internet__explorer
    @internet__explorer Месяц назад +1

    Dude is the definition of placement over power

  • @tylerv5173
    @tylerv5173 2 года назад +2

    5:24 that was clearly in.

  • @mrchuckles1022
    @mrchuckles1022 8 месяцев назад +2

    Another soul harvested by MEP.

    • @TennisTrollChannel
      @TennisTrollChannel  7 месяцев назад

      Having a hard time finding volunteers lately. Maybe MEP needs to hibernate for a bit : ]

  • @PlazaMoon
    @PlazaMoon 2 года назад +2

    Good Job. I never, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, want to play you!

  • @ryanbradley5928
    @ryanbradley5928 2 года назад +4

    USTA self-rating guidelines state that if you "Played or committed to play for a Division II, III, or NAIA college team" and you are age 25 and under, you should rate yourself no lower than a 5.0. How was D2 playing (until recently) at a 4.0 level???

    • @TennisTrollChannel
      @TennisTrollChannel  2 года назад

      I'm guessing it was likely based on his UTR.

    • @chewey3rd
      @chewey3rd 2 года назад +2

      A lot of college players sandbag until someone calls them out or reports them to the USTA. It happens all the the time in SoCal.

    • @TennisTrollChannel
      @TennisTrollChannel  2 года назад +1

      @@chewey3rd Many viewers say SoCal has the best players per level...maybe this is why : ]

    • @chewey3rd
      @chewey3rd 2 года назад

      @@TennisTrollChannel I think SoCal is and always has been a tennis mecca but there are plenty of other districts throughout the country that have some great USTA players of all levels. I remember playing USTA 4.5 Nationals, representing a team from the Los Angeles area around 10+ years ago and we got our asses kicked by a team from Texas in the semifinals. LoL

    • @dariusd2003
      @dariusd2003 2 года назад +3

      I had a D2 playing 3.5 (when I first started playing 5 years ago) with his team claiming he hasn't played in awhile. No one on my mixed doubles team could return his serve except me. It was hilarious seeing the women afraid but he had a monster lefty serve.

  • @donnienguyen2294
    @donnienguyen2294 Год назад +1

    Imagine training 6hrs a day in Division 2 college tennis to lose against an older guy who has no real weapon, just chops and slices. LOL. Friggin Ben

  • @mosl2te
    @mosl2te 2 года назад +3

    If in doubt call it in

  • @Volkl30
    @Volkl30 2 года назад +4

    I find it hard to believe that MEPs opponent was a D2 player??? No offense to him, by the way. :)

  • @TheRomeogigli
    @TheRomeogigli Год назад +1

    4:29 on the line!

  • @markh2044
    @markh2044 2 года назад +4

    Nice match guys. Very fun to watch the contrast of styles. Each player had 1 obviously bad line call, while all the rest were very close and certainly some generous calls as well by both guys...seemed like a pretty typical match in terms of line calling. I always expect my opponent to make at least one bad call over the course of a match. Just gotta roll with it. Line calling did not come anywhere close to determining the outcome of this match.

    • @joemarshall4226
      @joemarshall4226 2 года назад +1

      The proper thing to do is stare a little bit at the fist bad cal, and then say, "Are you sure?" at the second one.

  • @yakzivz1104
    @yakzivz1104 2 года назад +2

    Wait I thought that MEP was supposed to be playing a D2 player??? Did I misread it?

    • @TennisTrollChannel
      @TennisTrollChannel  2 года назад

      Nope.

    • @thomasmedeiros5722
      @thomasmedeiros5722 2 года назад

      Using the term Division 2 is misleading if you omitted important details like what spot on the team roster he played, his record in singles/ doubles and the College he played for etc. There is a big difference between # 1 singles and # 6 singles. Also how was the D 2 team ranked I NCAA. I think the give away was that D2 is considered a USTA 4.5. Also he explained he was out of shape so he has not been keeping his skills up to the stand he had when he was younger and actually playing D2 tennis.

    • @TennisTrollChannel
      @TennisTrollChannel  2 года назад +4

      ​@@thomasmedeiros5722 I think I understand the point you may be making as well as others who have commented/emailed. One purpose of this channel is to show the many varieties of tennis. Not every college team is going to have UTR 11+ in excellent shape. Not every 4.5 player is going to have proper technique. For the junior who wants to play college tennis but may not have the best technique or the highest rating, I hope this channel provides encouragement that he/she should continue to strive to reach their goal of playing college tennis. If juniors looked at TV and RUclips clips of top D1 tennis for comparison, they may be discouraged which is disappointing as that is far from reality. For me, using the description suggested, if I was still in college or just graduated my match title may be Division 1 player for an unranked college team with an unofficial record for most singles wins playing lines #4-#6 for 4 years, unknown number of loses (guessing 20), who had no volleys and a pancake-like serve but implied a pushing strategy to earn a tennis scholarship for 4 years and earned tennis player of the year for the college in singles and doubles and nominated for athlete of the year for the college vs MEP. Unfortunately, that title won't fit within RUclips's parameters. Miss those days. Thanks for sending me back to the good memories : ]

  • @AkatsukiShadow
    @AkatsukiShadow 2 года назад +5

    He has really good serves for 4.5 seems like he wasn't even going for hard shots either. Tough opponent for sure. Nice match.

  • @tbrennancreative4958
    @tbrennancreative4958 2 года назад +2

    D2 player needed to take 3 steps toward the net after his Serves and he would win almost all points at the net

  • @knotwilg3596
    @knotwilg3596 2 года назад +4

    What strikes me about D2's play is the solid 2hb versus the unstable fh. I know the modern forehand no longer has that major takeback and casual looking forheands like that of Mannarino are effective at the pro level, but here the kinetic chain looks almost absent, resulting in low power and low stability. At least the half turn should be there, even with an open stance. The player himself seems to realize it and opts for the backhand when the ball comes through the middle.
    Under the surface of MEP's pushing, there's a lot of tactics going on. Like somebody else mentioned, he seems to reduce the court by waiting in front of the base line. The instinctive response is to play shorter shots, like drop shots, which plays into his strength. The better response is to play topspin ground strokes corner to corner. In either case, net conversion needs to be there, otherwise MEP will neutralize any disadvantage by playing the high ball for defense.
    Kudos to UDRacing for taking the stats to another level. Really instructive.

    • @Tennisbull-match-statistics
      @Tennisbull-match-statistics 2 года назад +3

      Thanks, much appreciated. Your system served as inspiration, I have given you credits on the about page of my site

    • @eslynbeck9197
      @eslynbeck9197 2 года назад

      I dunno, the backhand seems pretty average

    • @rsmith02
      @rsmith02 2 года назад

      That's quite perceptive. I think MEP is on track to be a McEnroe like player if he can get more comfortable at net and develop shots to get him there safely (like a decent serve).

  • @Джокер-ш3с
    @Джокер-ш3с 3 месяца назад +1

    Waiting for a MEP match vs D12

  • @K4R3N
    @K4R3N 2 года назад +3

    Went to his house to discuss a bad call 😂

    • @TennisTrollChannel
      @TennisTrollChannel  2 года назад +2

      It was staged. MEP's idea : ]

    • @K4R3N
      @K4R3N 2 года назад

      @@TennisTrollChannel even the thought is funny

  • @alwaysprepared
    @alwaysprepared 2 года назад +5

    I've said it before and I'll say it again. Why doesn't Ben split-step on returns of serve? Every time he's dead flat-footed. It's got to make him at least a half-step slow on returns. Just wondering if he even realizes that. Once the point is started, he split-steps pretty decently.
    Ben played pretty well this match. D2 guy just made a few too many mistakes and missed too many chances to put points away with volleys, particularly, in my opinion... Of course, to be fair, I would be frustrated very quickly playing against Ben! LOL
    Good match, though. A few points with different outcomes might have totally changed the results. You could say that about most tennis matches, I suppose...
    As an aside, you should now change his name from MEP to His Airness... LOL

    • @mskcrc
      @mskcrc 2 года назад +2

      I thought the same thing. If MEP gives himself that extra half second, he can give far better angles on his junkballs. It’s a simple way to instantly improve his game.

    • @alwaysprepared
      @alwaysprepared 2 года назад

      @@mskcrc Yeah, as if he NEEDS more advantages, right? LOL

    • @yili9725
      @yili9725 2 года назад

      Ben was not in the right position to return. he should stand well in baseline to punish MEP's serve. I don't know what he is thinking.

  • @pfpvilano
    @pfpvilano 11 месяцев назад

    Love to watch the mep. Not playing a 4.5 level player by any stretch of the imagination.

  • @devoker666
    @devoker666 8 месяцев назад +2

    Worst D2 player in the world? Can't hit a decent topspin forehand ffs, and runs around to hit a backhand instead.

  • @tenorioubersteve8890
    @tenorioubersteve8890 2 года назад +1

    I wonder what MEP string tension is my is 30-40 llbs. Sounds like a trampoline

  • @scotts9731
    @scotts9731 2 года назад +3

    This is absolutely not 4.5 singles, both of these guys would get wrecked at districts

    • @TennisTrollChannel
      @TennisTrollChannel  2 года назад

      Do you know someone who wrecked them at districts?

    • @LowUTR
      @LowUTR 2 года назад +1

      An average 4.5 would beat these two 6-1,6-2 or thereabouts.

    • @MEPTennis
      @MEPTennis 2 года назад +4

      I'm 5-1 in my last six District playoff matches at 4.5.

    • @TennisTrollChannel
      @TennisTrollChannel  2 года назад

      @@MEPTennis Maybe Scott S knows that 1 person that won.

  • @swiftDKB
    @swiftDKB 2 года назад +1

    What college did D2 play for and what spot?

    • @TennisTrollChannel
      @TennisTrollChannel  2 года назад

      I prefer to not name the colleges players attend as their name and photo is on the website.

  • @lloydmacaya3311
    @lloydmacaya3311 2 года назад

    where is the set score, it'll help if visible at all times so we the viewers know the situation of each point. thanks!

    • @TennisTrollChannel
      @TennisTrollChannel  2 года назад

      I’ll try it with an future match that has t been edited yet. Thanks.

  • @jimgoddard3957
    @jimgoddard3957 Год назад

    What a beautiful park...where is that?

    • @TennisTrollChannel
      @TennisTrollChannel  Год назад

      Bitsy Grant Tennis Center

    • @jimgoddard3957
      @jimgoddard3957 Год назад

      @@TennisTrollChannel LOL...OK< I guess in the states somewhere. Beautiful facility. I've never seen second floor courts like that on a second floor. Interesting design.

  • @kdoublec973
    @kdoublec973 2 года назад +3

    I like both those guys

  • @racketback
    @racketback 2 года назад

    What kind of string does the person who uses Redical MP? It looks like Yonex P2P or Hyper-G

    • @TennisTrollChannel
      @TennisTrollChannel  2 года назад

      I’m guessing hyper g from the color and it’s popularity with college players.

  • @hanbrianlee
    @hanbrianlee Год назад +2

    Man some of the MEP's calls were not even close.. kinda surprised to see how wrong his calls are. I could understand calls that look barely in on video, but balls that are inside the line are eh.... lol

  • @marktace1
    @marktace1 2 года назад

    Where are these courts?

    • @TennisTrollChannel
      @TennisTrollChannel  2 года назад

      Bitsy Grant tennis center in Atlanta

    • @marktace1
      @marktace1 2 года назад

      @@TennisTrollChannel Thanks. Was out there for Atlanta Senior Invitational and practiced there with my son. Clay before, hard after.

    • @TennisTrollChannel
      @TennisTrollChannel  2 года назад

      @@marktace1 that’s a quality tournament. Hope you had an amazing time if visiting from outside Atlanta.

  • @PlazaMoon
    @PlazaMoon 2 года назад +1

    looks like the 'college player' doesn't wanna play tennis!

  • @perakojot6524
    @perakojot6524 2 года назад +3

    D2 is totally atrocious on the net. He literally put every single volley into the net and all of them were super easy.

    • @rsmith02
      @rsmith02 2 года назад

      He did better in the second set. His volleys were okay he was out of position though.

  • @lukakozelj4615
    @lukakozelj4615 2 года назад

    Sorry I am not an American so I have to ask. The one against MEP is a Division 2 player?

    • @TennisTrollChannel
      @TennisTrollChannel  2 года назад

      Correct. He played for a D2 college (not currently).

    • @lukakozelj4615
      @lukakozelj4615 2 года назад

      @@TennisTrollChannel Okey thanks. An cca how high USTA rank do you need to play division 1?

    • @TennisTrollChannel
      @TennisTrollChannel  2 года назад

      @@lukakozelj4615 The divisions are not based on sport levels. They are based on how many scholarships and sports a college provides. I’ve seen beginners tennis players play D1 (college was transitioning from D2 to D1 and was starting new teams to meet D1 requirements). However, I think on average a player rated USTA 5.0-5.5 can play for many D1 colleges.

    • @lukakozelj4615
      @lukakozelj4615 2 года назад

      @@TennisTrollChannel Thanks for the explanation.

  • @LowUTR
    @LowUTR 2 года назад +9

    Where do you find these hack "division 2" players? Lol. I'm definitely eyeing a trip to Atlanta next year to take out multiple bags of trash.

    • @MrTablturnr
      @MrTablturnr 2 года назад +5

      Given how much you’ve shown up with negative things to say in the comments, I’m sure Troll would be happy to put you on camera 😁

    • @LowUTR
      @LowUTR 2 года назад

      @@MrTablturnr Yes, I'm sure he would.

    • @yakzivz1104
      @yakzivz1104 2 года назад

      @@MrTablturnr That doesn't negate the obvious though.

    • @MrTablturnr
      @MrTablturnr 2 года назад

      @@yakzivz1104 I mean obviously this isn’t high level D2, but it shouldn’t be surprising. The range of players in D2 is like 6 UTR to 11+ UTR, depending on the school and the area.

    • @tylerv5173
      @tylerv5173 2 года назад +4

      You won't. You're only here to comment on RUclips videos.

  • @Sweeney-Kubach
    @Sweeney-Kubach Год назад +1

    Keep the ball low, serve out wide, come into the net on solid approach shots, and make him pass you. I play hackers at least twice a week and I have learned how to play against people how aren’t able to hit clean shots, and hack the ball. You don’t need power you need low shots and make the old guy bend down to get the ball and bring him into the net, most hackers can’t play the ball.
    The guy who just showed up at his house and that’s scary my dude. I would probably wouldn’t have been as nice as you were. This is just tennis and nobody should be showing up to anyone house over a tennis call. You have a stalker now to deal with. Good luck my friend.

  • @TheAbhi541
    @TheAbhi541 8 месяцев назад +2

    My theory is that MEP plays a very energy efficient form of Tennis. He is the Prius hybrid engine of tennis players. Slicing all groundstrokes, pancake serve, and not hitting topspin anywhere. Not wasting energy on anything except running - no core rotation or pushing through legs. His opponents tire out trying to play the tennis they see on TV with 40% of the average ATP player's athleticism (or in my case, 20% of the ATP fitness). They'll win a few games, get exhausted, then MEP still feeling fresh kicks their butt.
    This is not a criticism. This is the #1 BEST way to play tennis if you want to just win matches and play up to 4.5

  • @propgee
    @propgee 2 года назад +1

    hahahahhaa the trick to Bens game is his amazing footwork. everyone is worried about his stroke technique but that not what's winning him matches look at his legs he move more than all his opponents. right from the get go after serves, after receiving he is on the move

  • @richieortiz5
    @richieortiz5 2 года назад +1

    Ubersonic 3’s are the best shoes ever made.

  • @cbockiii2514
    @cbockiii2514 2 года назад

    Tennis Troll, is that you on the other court?

    • @TennisTrollChannel
      @TennisTrollChannel  2 года назад

      On the left, it's actually Lefty-Righty (left handed forehand, right handed serve). I'm hitting with him (in orange), but I'm out of the frame.

  • @monstertrucktennis
    @monstertrucktennis Год назад +1

    Hyperbaric chamber???

  • @lowelife4life183
    @lowelife4life183 Год назад +1

    As a former top 100 USTA player. This is not a college skilled player. His court positioning is all over the place and his serve and power just isn’t there

  • @buckyoung4578
    @buckyoung4578 14 дней назад

    If MEP's opponent is a USTA 4.5 DII player, then I am Santa Claus. Easy to beat MEP, stand almost on the service line and blast his push serve and come in every time you stretch him and hit behind him.

    • @TennisTrollChannel
      @TennisTrollChannel  13 дней назад

      He’s a usta 4.5 player. Didn’t play d2. Therefore, maybe an elf instead?

  • @jeremi7214
    @jeremi7214 2 года назад +1

    If your opponent makes a bad call, its only fitting to give it back to them 😉

  • @johncoryell
    @johncoryell 2 года назад

    Do you think Rafael Nadal has ever watched an MEP video?
    Think about it dont you think some of the tennis pros who really love watching tennis as much as we do have stumbled across these?

    • @TennisTrollChannel
      @TennisTrollChannel  2 года назад

      I do know some former pros have watched TennisTroll Channel. I like to think most tennis pros surf on RUclips once in a while and they may have clicked on a video or two.

  • @francaraggio7002
    @francaraggio7002 Год назад +1

    Ma al minuto 18 chiama una palla di mep out col ditino, ma era dentro di un bel po'... 😮

  • @ana-dn4zt
    @ana-dn4zt 2 года назад +2

    What is the racket MEP used and do you know the string and what tension?