This, I find it strange how people conveniently forget the Irish wiped out plenty of native scots, erasing their culture and instilling their own that's still dominant to this day.
@@limpa756 Really! So the might of the Roman legions crumbled in fear at the sight of mighty Pictish warriors to such an extent that they had to build massive fortifications to keep them out of the Empire. Then the Irish show up and wipe the same Picts out so effortlessly that "people conveniently forget" about it. What you wrote is complete nonsense. If you have any evidence for this then please provide details to any archeologists, historians or anthropologists you come across, because they have none. Not that they are looking for something that is a 19th century fabrication. Gaelic culture is as native to Scotland as it is to Ireland. Stop spreading your Victorian era garbage. It's offensive to all Scottish Gaels!
@@limpa756 Really! So the might of the Roman legions crumbled in fear at the sight of mighty Pictish warriors to such an extent that they had to build massive fortifications to keep them out of the Empire. Then the Irish show up and wipe the same Picts out so effortlessly that "people conveniently forget" about it. What you wrote is nonsense. If you have any evidence for this then please provide details to any archeologists, historians or anthropologists you come across, because they have none. Not that they are looking for something that is a 19th century fabrication. Gaelic culture is as native to Scotland as it is to Ireland. Stop spreading Victorian era garbage. It's offensive to all Scottish Gaels!
@@limpa756 Really! So the might of the Roman legions crumbled in fear at the sight of mighty Pictish warriors to such an extent that they had to build massive fortifications to keep them out of the Empire. Then the Irish show up and wipe the same Picts out so effortlessly that "people conveniently forget" about it. This is obvioulsy nonsense. If you have any evidence then please provide details to any archeologists, historians or anthropologists you come across, because they have none. Not that they are looking for something that is a 19th century fabrication in any case. Gaelic culture is as native to Scotland as it is to Ireland. Stop spreading Victorian era garbage. It's offensive to all Scottish Gaels!
A lot of people are unaware that Scottish clans had already intermarried with Irish in Northern Ireland before ulster plantations. I knew I had Scottish ancestry in Northern Ireland my whole life, I’ve felt absolutely awful about it to find out that my ancestors were actually from a Scottish clan who was already in NI and actually fought the English to keep their land.
@@TheDemigreg not sure why you’d say that. One prominent clan is Clan McDonnell. That’s why, even though “McDonnell” is Scottish in origin, the Irish consider the McDonnells to be Irish. You can go search it for yourself. Scottish and Irish people had been migrating back and forth for centuries prior to the plantations.
@@xtramail4909 Incorrect there has been a small migration back and forth these are all catholtic Gaelic highlanders. Also the name mcdonnel isn't scottish the surname is found in Ireland long before any scottish came there. The Macdonnels themselves claim they're Irish.
@@TheDemigreg @xtramail4909 is actually correct, Ulsterians and Southwestern Scots(ancestors of planters) actually knew eachother pretty well especially on genetic level. Together with Manx people they represent what used to be Gaels of Irish Sea. Planters just forget(probably intentionally) who their ancestors used to be.
The Scots who moved to Ulster weren't necessarily driven by a lack of land in Scotland. It was more a combination of factors: Plantation of Ulster: In the early 1600s, the English crown initiated a plan to colonize Ulster with Protestant settlers. They offered land grants and incentives to attract Scots, particularly from the Lowlands and border regions. Religious Freedom: Many Scots were Presbyterian, a Protestant denomination not favored by the English crown. Ulster offered a chance to practice their religion freely. Economic Opportunities: While Scotland wasn't entirely devoid of land, Ulster potentially offered larger landholdings and a chance for a fresh start, especially for younger sons who wouldn't inherit the family farm in Scotland. So, it wasn't just about a lack of space in Scotland, but a complex mix of political, religious, and economic motivations that drew the Scots to Ulste
They have been moving back and forth for thousands of years, the two islands are so close to each other.
This, I find it strange how people conveniently forget the Irish wiped out plenty of native scots, erasing their culture and instilling their own that's still dominant to this day.
@@limpa756 Really! So the might of the Roman legions crumbled in fear at the sight of mighty Pictish warriors to such an extent that they had to build massive fortifications to keep them out of the Empire. Then the Irish show up and wipe the same Picts out so effortlessly that "people conveniently forget" about it.
What you wrote is complete nonsense. If you have any evidence for this then please provide details to any archeologists, historians or anthropologists you come across, because they have none. Not that they are looking for something that is a 19th century fabrication. Gaelic culture is as native to Scotland as it is to Ireland. Stop spreading your Victorian era garbage. It's offensive to all Scottish Gaels!
@@limpa756 Really! So the might of the Roman legions crumbled in fear at the sight of mighty Pictish warriors to such an extent that they had to build massive fortifications to keep them out of the Empire. Then the Irish show up and wipe the same Picts out so effortlessly that "people conveniently forget" about it.
What you wrote is nonsense. If you have any evidence for this then please provide details to any archeologists, historians or anthropologists you come across, because they have none. Not that they are looking for something that is a 19th century fabrication. Gaelic culture is as native to Scotland as it is to Ireland. Stop spreading Victorian era garbage. It's offensive to all Scottish Gaels!
@@limpa756 Really! So the might of the Roman legions crumbled in fear at the sight of mighty Pictish warriors to such an extent that they had to build massive fortifications to keep them out of the Empire. Then the Irish show up and wipe the same Picts out so effortlessly that "people conveniently forget" about it.
This is obvioulsy nonsense. If you have any evidence then please provide details to any archeologists, historians or anthropologists you come across, because they have none. Not that they are looking for something that is a 19th century fabrication in any case.
Gaelic culture is as native to Scotland as it is to Ireland. Stop spreading Victorian era garbage. It's offensive to all Scottish Gaels!
@@limpa756 Things that never happend for $500!
A lot of people are unaware that Scottish clans had already intermarried with Irish in Northern Ireland before ulster plantations. I knew I had Scottish ancestry in Northern Ireland my whole life, I’ve felt absolutely awful about it to find out that my ancestors were actually from a Scottish clan who was already in NI and actually fought the English to keep their land.
Incorrect.
@@TheDemigreg not sure why you’d say that. One prominent clan is Clan McDonnell. That’s why, even though “McDonnell” is Scottish in origin, the Irish consider the McDonnells to be Irish. You can go search it for yourself. Scottish and Irish people had been migrating back and forth for centuries prior to the plantations.
@@xtramail4909 Incorrect there has been a small migration back and forth these are all catholtic Gaelic highlanders. Also the name mcdonnel isn't scottish the surname is found in Ireland long before any scottish came there. The Macdonnels themselves claim they're Irish.
@@TheDemigreg en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/MacDonnell_of_Antrim
@@TheDemigreg @xtramail4909 is actually correct, Ulsterians and Southwestern Scots(ancestors of planters) actually knew eachother pretty well especially on genetic level. Together with Manx people they represent what used to be Gaels of Irish Sea. Planters just forget(probably intentionally) who their ancestors used to be.
Please explain why there was no land available in Scotland and plenty of land available in Ireland; did the Irish donate their own land?
The Scots who moved to Ulster weren't necessarily driven by a lack of land in Scotland. It was more a combination of factors:
Plantation of Ulster: In the early 1600s, the English crown initiated a plan to colonize Ulster with Protestant settlers. They offered land grants and incentives to attract Scots, particularly from the Lowlands and border regions.
Religious Freedom: Many Scots were Presbyterian, a Protestant denomination not favored by the English crown. Ulster offered a chance to practice their religion freely.
Economic Opportunities: While Scotland wasn't entirely devoid of land, Ulster potentially offered larger landholdings and a chance for a fresh start, especially for younger sons who wouldn't inherit the family farm in Scotland.
So, it wasn't just about a lack of space in Scotland, but a complex mix of political, religious, and economic motivations that drew the Scots to Ulste
It’s just the land in Ireland was easy to take because the Irish are naturally weak and have never really won a war which is why they drink so much
Dalradia..
Ulster Plantation 1609