I'm an Ulster woman born and bred, and yes, here we call ourselves Ulster Scots aka "The planters", which we are called as an insult. My Scottish family were called Ross and Napier, and over here we are still proud of our Scottish heritage. My late fathers ancestry was mostly Irish. Saying that, I'm proud of my country, North and South, as well as my Irish brethren. ❤️ 🤝 Oh and lastly, once I joined My Ancestry I didn't realise how many relatives I have in America, in fact I have more living there than anywhere else. Thankyou for your post ♥️
Scots Irish were the shock troops of the American frontier. It was their likes - the 'Overt the Mountain Men' - who made the difference at the Battle of King's Mountain. Proud to be a descendant.
I was borne in northern Ireland now live in newyork, ten american presidents come from northern Ireland infact my maternal grandmother's maiden name was Wilson and my paternal grandmother's maiden name was McKinley two american presidents.
I served in the Army from 1968-70, Nam years. If it weren't for hillbillies and Irish boys from south Boston there would not have been an infantry. A great bunch of guys.
My family came to the colonies from County Down, Ulster in 1763. We arrived in Charles Town ( Charleston ), then moved southwest, into Georgia, Alabama, Louisiana, and Texas, founding Law’s Chapel, Texas, just west of Shreveport, Louisiana. Every Law that I have met has been a descendant of George Law, my ancestor, who was, by trade, a weaver. Thanks for this presentation, I found it very informative!❤
Thank you Judge, this is so refreshing , to hear pure facts , the reality of what has been for centuries a complex picture of the movement of populations into Ireland and out of Ireland, often for purely economic reasons , sometimes because of the politics of the House of Stewart, later the House of Orange, then the Hanoverians, Germans, Saints preserve us! We often simplify this story by narrowing it down to local politics when in reality in the 1600s and before, Europe was in convulsions, the Thirty Years War from 1618 to 1648 as an example, then, as you so rightly point out, we have Oliver Cromwell, vilified quite rightly throughout Catholic Ireland, but really unknown in the Protestant North, why, because you get your history from your own people. In Northern Ireland we talk of Planter and Gael, but thank you for reminding us that the Planter, mostly the lowland Scottish Presbyterian Dissenter, did not always stay in Ireland, but moved on to Philadelphia and further, taking up space in the new world a century before the Gael was forced to follow him out of his homeland by pure hunger. The story of the Highland Clearances in Scotland is a totally separate chapter because Highlander is definitely different from Lowland Scot, and has a very different story to tell. I could talk about the English from the Vale of Evesham in Worcestershire who planted the apple trees in North Armagh . I could talk about how the English game of cricket came to Ireland, another complicated story. Nothing is quite what it seems. The Protestants of Northern Ireland, and down the eastern side of the island as far as county Waterford, were a very mixed crew, Presbyterians from Scotland, Anglicans from England, Methodists, Baptists, Pentecostals, and of course, the Quakers. Lurgan, in County Armagh, still has its old Friends Meeting House. Thank you for your talk. I enjoyed it immensely.
Scots-Irish/English on Dad's side and Scots-Irish/Dutch on Mom's side from Jackson County, NC. My heritage the legacy of those simple, intelligent, and stubborn bloodlines who tackled the Smokies with, axe, adze, musket, and their Bibles.
How can an ulsterman be a Scot Ulster is in Ireland ask any of the Paisley clan and daddy Ian who wanted no part of the republic always referred to himself as an Irishman and said that been an ulsterman and been an Irishman go hand in hand and many ulstermen define themselves as irishmen who are loyal to Britain
@@Minime163 Ethnicity, nationality and political allegiance are all entirely different concepts. They may be connected or they may not, depending on the individual. This is what makes the world we share interesting.
@@gower23 true and I'm shure most people are proud of their ethnic backgrounds but at the end of the day no matter what your political allegiance or ethnic background your of the country your born In
I'm probably a decendent of Thomas Wiley/Wylie from Northern Ireland. The initial problem about the marriage may have been as a result of the Penal Laws in the 1700s, the Wileys are mostly protestant. However it may also relate to the Covenentor Wars in Scotland. Many covenentors were deported to America after their defeat. A Thomas Wiley was one of 5 Wileys who drowned in the sinking of the Crown of Londoo ship off the Orkneys.
The Covenanters were not defeated, they ultimately won and established Presbyterianism in Scotland. The pure form of the Church, is The Reformed Presbyterian Church, which is established in many countries throughout the world. There are many good books, giving accurate accounts of the struggles for The Covenanted Work of Reformation in Scotland, that are worth reading to prevent any misunderstandings of history.
I would just like to say, "Your description of the Scots from Ulster is the most exact I have ever seen Sir!" I salute you. My name is John Parker, the eldest sibling so I got the land, my younger siblings through the generations had to travel to find land, land was the key and they were born fighting to find that land. Superb sermon Reverend 💯
I'm from Northern Ireland now living in the USA, ten american presidents come from Northern Ireland, five from County antrim where I'm from. Infact my maternal grandmothers maiden name was Wilson and my paternal grandmothers maiden name was McKinley. There is a great book ( Borne Fighting) by James webb.
Thanks for sharing John. I too am from Northern Ireland originally, Co. Antrim. I moved when I was school aged, to the U.S. I miss my granny and granda, who spoke consistent with the Ulster Scots language. I have tapes somewhere of myself speaking, but that was years ago now. My family originated from Aughagash. I’d be surprised if anyone knew of that area. It’s farm land more than anything. I’m very Americanized but I know where I’m from and how it’s shaped me. I worry that one day this way of living, speaking and connecting with others could be lost. All the best.
@@RollForever88 I was born and raised in North Belfast, witnessed a lot of violence. In fact Ian paisley came to my house and did the funeral service for. MY grandfathered who got b wounded at the battle of the somme he was 44yrs when he went over the top 36th ulster division my father was born in 1928 so my grandfather was pushing 60 when my father was born, my other grandfather was a street corner preacher. I was raised Brethren a no nonsense evangelical denomination.
James Webb later made a movie about his book, which updated the information and included more recent events in America. This is a very good video. 😎 My family names are Sullivan, Palmer, Moor, Killough and Jones. My husband’s parents were Gilliland, McMurphy, Thomason, Walker, and McFarland. Proud to be Scottish and Irish. Lynn in Naples FL. 😎
Thanks very much for the history. However, one little detail: Ulster Scots continued emigrating to North America after the American Revolution - they just went to Canada. My own Scots-Irish ancestors arrived in Nova Scotia and New Brunswick in the early to mid-1800s, some so early in the century that their children were born in Canada years before the potato famine commenced. Of the several families of my ancestors who made that trip, only one arrived in Canada after the potato famine began. Some of them were Presbyterian, others Anglican, so at least some of my Ulster Scots ancestors apparently decided it was easier to go along with the English than fight them. Then, in the 20th century, my grandfather and several of his siblings and cousins moved from Maritime Canada into New England looking for better economic opportunities. And now, I have distant cousins all across the USA and Canada.
An interesting point on bagpipes, an instrument that is deeply seeded on the scots Irish ulster scots protestants would be the Lambeg drum would rival a bag pipe for noise.
Ulster David Poe was the son of John and namesake and grandson of David Poe of the Scotch Covenanter of 1667; Father of Alexander, John, and daughter, Anne, and great-great grandfather of Edgar Allen Poe.
I don't mean to be picky and I hope it is ok to say this but its important. I am Irish from the republic of Ireland by the way . There is a tiny mistake here in your video . Ulster is NOT the six counties of Northern Ireland Ulster is made up of NINE counties. Six of which make up Northern Ireland. And THREE of which are in the Republic of Ireland. Cavan Monaghan and Donegal are very much part of Ulster and the republic of Ireland. They are VERY nationalist and very proudly Irish. And yes they do have some ulster scots too or scotch Irish some of them are even protestant ..they would refer to themselves as Irish or Ulster Scotch never british tho and I can't tell you HOW Irish they are. And the other six counties of Ulster are in Northern Ireland and yes they would say Ulster Scots or British . Fermanagh, Antrim, Tyrone, Derry( the British might call this London Derry), Armagh, Belfast and Down are in Northern Ireland and the population is a mix of British (ulster scots and protestant ) and Irish (catholics). Ulster is a large province. And ulster culture is very much a part of the Republic of Ireland aswell as Northern Ireland. And some in the republic would even speak scots in lagan country. But you are totally correct in everything else so its a great video. Well done I really enjoyed it. It was an AMAZING video and an amazing channel. Sorry again if this sounds picky because I was really impressed with the video. Thanks!
You're right- my family's from Cavan. That whole region of Ireland was historically called Ulster, but the 3 counties you mentioned are included in the Republic.
@@anniegrath1417 the majority of us in Northern Ireland claim to be British in the latest census only 19% claim to be Irish only. Every poll recently taken shows that the vast majority would vote to remain part of the United Kingdom, a United Ireland is as far away as it has ever been.
As a Scottish resident l found this an interesting talk. The only bit l felt was missing the fact that many of the Scots who ended up in America via Ireland were originally from border riever families who were ruthlessly cleared out by King James after the union of the crowns because of their unruly ways. There’s a great book called Steel bonnets which talks about the traits these people took across with them to America such as their hardiness, love of fiddle music and not so good traits such as the inclination to have long standing feuds between different family clans
Can you ascertain the accuracy of the following: The English government in Westminster gained the cooperation of the landed Scottish lairds to effect the "clearances" of Highland families. This campaign also resulted in the development of the woolen industry in Scotland, as the Scottish hillsides were repopulated by sheep.
There was a controversial thing on Britain called "The Clearances" which I don't know much about but I understand it was not all that long ago and is part of the reason why there is a popular movement in Scotland today for separation from England I think it was directed against rural Highlanders @@theelizabethan1
@@theelizabethan1yes, that's what they did, but that came over 150 years after James the 1st an 6th cleared the border reiving rider families of the Scottish an English marches.
I don't know what I am? I think my family moved from Ireland to the outer Hebrides in the 1300's. They remained Roman Catholic and then moved to Canada in the 1850's and then Michigan in the 1870's. There must have been a huge move to Michigan in the 1870's because my whole French Canadian side picked up and moved to Michigan in the 1870's as well.
It was mentioned that immigration to America stopped around 1775 due to the war. Did is restart after the the war? When and to what degree? Thank you! Great video!
Thank you sir. Immigration while almost always constant had few waves through America history, usually matching European conflict. I large wave happened in the 1830s and 1840s, again around 1880s and then again around 1900-1920ish.
@@Maestro4759 I think there may be,there were 2 or 3 immigration waves starting around 200 years before the potato famine.That’s 8 generations before the main Irish wave of immigration
My Irish Scottish royal family (Boitlers/Butlers) came to American through Nova Scotia lived there and then Maine, Vermont, Massachusetts. My immediate family are Butlers (Norseman) and Cannings/Canon.. my grandfather who raised me is Warren Butler his dad Tom Butler, then James Butler etc. (there is also a Tabias and Patrick.. I have to look again but I think after Patrick Butler in Ireland was the one who didn’t leave Ireland. I have a very unique family ancestry. I always knew about Kilkenny growing up and traced a lot of our migration
It is important to know that the persecution of Presbyterians was not at the hands of Catholics in Ireland . Both Presbyterian and Catholics were persecuted by the Crown. Farmers in Ireland own their own land . Farmers in England pay rent to the great landowners who still own the land . Many of these are descendants of the 180 or so followers of William the Conqueror who were granted land after Hastings and the conquest of England . Irish farmers finally won ownership of their land as a result of the Land Wsrs and the Encumbered Estates Act . A brilliant presentation . Thank you .
The funniest thing about the Scottish Clan Tartans is that they never existed until maybe Victorian Times. There were no individual Clan Tartans. They wore whatever wool that was available, each Clan wasn’t decked out in a particular pattern. What’s even funnier is that after the last Jacobite Rebelion and the Battle of Culloden. King George 11 who was actually Germanic banned Tartans, Bagpipes to put an end to the Clan System. King George wasn’t English he was German and the current House of Windsor came from Saxony . They changed their name during WW1 from Saxe Coburg Gotha
As a born and Bred Scotsman, You can't fly from Glasgow to Edinburgh, Plus Glasgow and Edinburgh are both Lowland city's 😂😂😂😂😂 , So how you flew from the Highlands is amazing ,
The route of the movements of many of the people from Ireland (mostly Protestant) is followed along the Great Wagon Road as shown in the video but didn't some of the people from Northern Ireland filter farther west into such as the Greenbrier Valley and Kanawha Valley-even deep into Western Appalachia? I believe maybe a bit more breaking down of the barrier between Irish Irish and Scots Irish? (Than farther east or of course,in Ireland itself) Reflected in some of the mountain folk music and wakes/keening held for the deceased family members?
Ulster comprises the 9 most northerly counties of the island of Ireland, Northern Ireland is a political entity comprising 6 of the 9 counties of Ulster. The remaining 3 counties of Ulster being part of the politic entity The Republic of Ireland. 32 counties on the island in all. ✌
I seen a video of an American woman interviewed in the 1920s who was elderly and had actually owned slaves her accent had undoubtedly Irish Ulster tones to it.
@@normawilson7941 aren’t half your population papists, to the world you are the same people living on one island, the bigotry is only in your own head!
Ulster, by definition, includes two counties in Irish Republic. It's really funny that the Flag of Ulster uses the Red Hand who belong to Ui Neill. They still claiming today their Galician ancestry as descendants of legendary Mil Spain.
@@terryjross1184 It's not. That guy is talking rubbish its the official seal of the O'Niell family. It comes from an old folk tale about a man cutting off his own hand to win a race where the winner was decided by who touched the ground first. O ' Neill cut off his hand and threw it to the finishing line. But now its very offensive to Irish people and its used by loyalist paramilitaries. It would be seen as extreme today by a lot of Irish people. There could be a similiar symbol in galicia but they are unconnected. Some irish people still use it in fact in the north its the only symbol used by both communities. But by a lot of people in the south its hated because of its connection with loyalist paramilitaries. So its not really used offficially in the south that much due to it being contraversial.
@@silverkitty2503 , It is in fact used in the "South" but in its original form, without the "Crown" above the Red Hand. I like what you have written previously. You seem an open minded intelligent person and I wish you well. I put the south in parenthesis for a reason. The most northerly part of Ireland is in what northerners call the South
Not sure where I fit in here. My mother said we were Scotch-Irish on her father's side. And he was Presbyterian, and the family lore is that an ancestor migrated from Scotland to Northern Ireland, and then his descendants came to America. However, these events didn't happen till the 19th century, plus the ancestor was from the Highlands. I guess his ancestors had initially been excluded because of the fear that they might be Catholic, even though they weren't. Anyway, yes, there is a tartan associated with him, though I don't know the whereabouts of any bagpipes.
John not all Highlanders were catholic, and not all Lowlanders were Protestant. The Campbells who are a Highland Clan are mostly Protestant, and although the Hamilton's are a Lowland family, there is a catholic branch as well. Also the Hamilton family received lands from King James in Ireland, and became the Dukes of Abercorn, who were catholic. Judge Preston does give a very good talk, with 99% of it being accurate but he does make a few errors, but don't we all.
I don't think that most of the Ulster Presbyterians behaved like the Border Reivers. Also the reputation of the Frontier as being violent I think had much to do with the fact that outlaws of all kinds and origins would tend to go to the Frontier to escape law and authorities that had much more control in the settled areas,I don't think all of the banditry was the fault of the Scots-Irish (or of the Irish)
I visited the Alamo last week on the trail of the Ulster Scot’s who died there and was surprised to see an Irish tricolour flying inside the Alamo . This has nothing to do with the Ulster Scots and didn’t come into existence until 80 years after the Alamo. The Ulster Scot’s were mainly Presbyterians from Northern Ireland
A few thoughts and themes for discussion: - Who first used the label "Scotch-Irish" or "Ulster Scots"? Was it a self identifier or an ethnographer's term? - There is a shading of Protestants throughout Ireland: more Presbyterians in the north; Anglicans in the south, but are their theological differences really related to geography? Whoever heard of a "Munster Anglican" (Episcopalian)? - Did General McGavock, Irish-American commander of the 10th Tennnessee - Sons of Erin - Regiment of the Confederate Army, and bearer of a Scots Gaelic patronymic, identiy as Irish-American Protestant? or Presbyterian? or Episcopalian? He doesn't seem to have identified as Scotch Irish or Ulster Scots. - Would the term Irish-American Presbyterian be a more accurate term? - Did some social/political, as opposed to ethnographic/accademic need arise to differentiate between the Irish-American Presbyterians and the Irish-American Catholics before about 1830, and especially in the 1840s/50s? - Would it be true to say that the central period of Irish-American Presbyterian political and social influence coincided with the lifespan of Andrew Jackson (1767-1845), with an afterglow in the immediate ante bellum period? - And finally, is it possible to discuss the Irish and Irish-American Protestants without reference to the Irish and Irish-American Catholics? Including Catholics with origins in the nine northern counties of Ireland ("Ulster", according to the Catholics) such as Union generals Sheridan (Cavan) and Shields (Tyrone) and Confederate general Finnegan (Monahan)?
I actually seen a cookery come history documentary where a Scots man and an ulsterman two chefs went to a place in America where there were alot of Ulster Presbyterians whose ancestors had settled in this part of rural America but the Ulster man was talking to one man in particular and he referred to him as Scots Irish and this man said what are you talking about my people were Irish ulstermen what's this about Scots Irish.
I know lots of protestants living in the Republic of Ireland and they all identify as "Irish". Things are so different in Northern Ireland. We find the Loyalist mindset just nonsensical.
It appears to me that British brutality to Ireland and Northern Ireland :I think both Irish Catholics and Ulster Scot Presbyterians were persecuted: helped to seal the destiny that Britain/England would lose the American Colonies.
Very interesting. I knew the roots to the Irish revolution went pretty far back but never knew that the reason why ulster was so different then the rest of Ireland was because the king of England was basically immigrating protestant Scottsmen to settle there way back in the 17th century. Always wondered why the orange brigade stayed with the UK even though they have Gaelic blood and heritage. And the whole lowland and highland difference is interesting and something that is new to me as well. My only complaint about the video is I wish you'd say Natives instead of Indians.. it's been over 500 years since that joke we call Columbus and yet we still call them Indians because of his failure... he doesn't deserve a holiday but I digress. Great video.
Yes tons of complicated history in that little area. As far as what a group of people is called, it really doesn’t matter what we call people, we will always have those that think they should be called something else.
Comrade conrad Ulster scots would not be of gaelic origin as such.Gaelic language was never spoken much in the scottish lowlands apart from the southwest galloway region ,The lowland scots are of a mix of brythonic celts and northern anglosaxons.
@@86ramc Just pointing out that the speaker in this video is wrong when he states that there was “essentially no Irish catholic emigration whatsoever” to America, before the famine of the 1840s. He states this about 21 minutes in, if you’d like to check it out.
@@PatAudreyK Profound apologies, you’re correct and right. Thomas Lynch did sign the declaration. I don’t think he was a catholic, as I’ve often seen it stated that Charles Carroll was the only catholic signatory. But with a name like Lynch, there’s no mistaking his origins.
There was considerable Ulster Scots and Irish Protestant immigration to Canada after the end of the Napoleonic wars, that is, after 1815. Many of their descendants later emigrated to the U.S.
@@familytreenutshistorygenealogy About one half million people, the great majority of whom were Protestant, emigrated to Canada from Ireland 1815-1855. During that period they were the largest immigrant group. But only half of them came from Ulster, the rest came from Protestant areas of the south. Walt Disney's family for example were Anglo-Norman from Kilkenny. The Orange Order remained a strong political force in Canada up until the 1960s.
Excellent presentation by a knowledgeable man. Just to add for further clarification the 31.5 million Americans that are said to claim Irish heritage have no association with the 26 counties and Catholicism. Catholicism being primarily synonymous with irishness up until the 1990s by the way. The vast majority of these individuals are actually of lowland/border Scots (Irish) ancestry and therefore far more Scottish and English than Irish. In actual fact there is no genetic Irish lineage (other than of the association with ancient Irish settlements in Scotland such as Dal Riata and so forth) as many of that cohort didn't even see the native Irish before they boarded the ships bound for the new world. The present phenomena of there being 31 million Irish in the USA is American Catholic Irish propaganda from the 1880s onwards.
369 Jones, There are a lot more details in this which you left, perhaps because you are unaware. The Irish, in the third century has been called Scotti by the Romans. The last High KIng of Ireland was named Emporer Scotorium. He died at the Battle of Clontarf in 1014. The Dal Riata descendants were the Highlanders. In 1746 at the Battle of Culloden, the English referred to the Highland Scottish as speaking with the "Irish tongue." Presbyterian's created the Irish Republican Brotherhood and fought in the 1798 rebellion to gain a Republic and separate from England. Obviously prior to the reformation all were Catholic's or non believers. The money lenders exploited the chasm as "doctrinal" but it was really about grabbing land by war (as is the true case today) . Today the justification for war and dispossession is couched as the moral superiority of "democracy" which claim is as realistic as "the Wizard of Oz" The Scots and the Irish were, originally, the same people. The lowland Scots were the most cruel and vicious to even the women and children of the Highlanders in the aftermath of Culloden. Look up the quotes from Captain Caroline Scott of the butcher William's Army if you want proof. There are 34 thousand versions of Christianity today. Who in the future, if humanity has a "future", will be claiming their version is the "right" one.
So what do you think happened to the descendants of the millions of catholic Irish who emigrated to America in the 1800s ? Where did they go ? if it’s all propaganda made up from the 1880s onwards.
@@ccahill2322 the irish were never called scotti. mythical nonsense from medieval irish monks. the emperor scotorum title was adopted from a roman one. the battle o clontarf was copied from the trojan war.emperor scotorum was a title given to him in the fictional book of armagh. you might want research the mythical columba also, and st patrick. scotlands name is not that auld and most likely has it's origins in scandinavia.the irish chronicum most likely copied from the scottish chronicum. no scots or scotti came from ireland..
I've been told I have an ancestor who was Scott's Irish. Sadky I don't know the specifics. Most of my geneology stuff was lost after my parents deaths, and a forced move. I saved what I could, but its in pieces, in boxes and on the net. But I enjoy listening to the history of what I have heard, was one of my ancestors. Thanks.
A proud race, to deny the one, true, holy, sedevacantist Catholic Church that Our Lord Jesus Christ established in His infinite wisdom. Despite my username, I am Scots-Irish, from a long line down in rural Missouri. Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, have mercy upon us sinners
I too am Catholic, a convert 24 years now. The KJV bible is wrong. Missing books. I pray for the misguided. Scots/ Irish on my dad's side and Latina from mothers side.
Most irish farmers in the republic anyway own there own farms or part own them in the case of commonages.This is largely as a result of the land reform in the 1900s which came about through the agitation of the land league.There was a highland land league but there efforts weren't fruitful so no huge land transfer occurred in scotland.
Charles Stewart Parnell a protestant and proud Irishman not only did he get the land back for the people but he also founded the Irish party not a man except maybe Michael Collins done more for the people than this great man.
This talk misses a crucial element, the Union of the Crowns of England and Scotland in 1603. As a result the lawless folk (the border reivers) who lived on the Anglo-Scottish border became a major problem for James 1. They were forcibly deported to Ulster. Many of the most common Ulster Scots names (Graham, Dodds, Armstrong etc.) Are reiver names, descended from these deportees.
I don't think these border reivers were the same as the more typical Presbyterian Ulster Scots,some of whom I understand actually arrived as congregations with a pastor from their church among them on the ship !
Ulster is 9 counties always !!!!!!!! - 6 of those counties are currently in Northern Ireland, the remaining 3 are in the Republic. Most of Ulster is and always has been just Irish with specific concentrations of Scots Irish in 3 just counties
The Irish seem to always be blaming the English. The better thing to say would be that the problem started with the Normans who weren’t English. The Normans did the same thing to the Anglo Saxons and Welsh as well as the Scots.
There is another theory,that Laudabiliter allowed the Normans to take Ireland.For obvious reasons,this is a scenario that most Southern Irish tend not to entertain
The Normans assimilated, inter-married, adopted the culture, and learned to speak the language. They became Gaels. The English tried to supplant and dominate the Irish, destroying their culture and language.
The Irish blame the English because the majority Catholic population on the island were the subject of continued discrimination and repeated slaughter which would today be viewed as attempts at genocide. The plantations of Munster and Ulster were the first, Cromwell's campaign in 1649 the second and the famine of the 1840's the third. Ireland produced plenty of other food which was exported at gunpoint whilst the potatoes than most of the population depended on rotted in the fields. A million died and another million plus emigrated. The population is still not back to that of 1840. The Presbyterians of Ulster (which has 9 not 6 countries, one of the few inaccuracies I noticed in the presentation) were also the subject of many of the penal laws that came after the Williamite wars in 1691 and this was a huge reason for the emigration of the Ulster Scots throughout the 18th century. Many of those that stayed led the rebellion against the Crown in 1798. Ironically they were swayed by the ideas of the American and French Revolutions but the Government of the new American state refused to accept the ringleaders as exiles after they were defeated and rounded up. Some came to the US independently anyway if they were fortunate enough to escape or their families wealthy or influential enough to buy their release. Many Presbyterians had done quite well for themselves before they left Ulster so they were far from destitute. They were not full and equal citizens in Ulster though and they were too successful and educated to be prepared to put up with that any longer. Though they disliked Popery, those behind 1798 saw their common cause with Catholics and sought to ally with them to overthrow the Crown. Throughout the early 19th century all that changed leading them to find common cause with the Anglicans. I've gone on a bit but the story of the revolutionary Presbyterians of that time is one of the most fascinating and unexpected in Irish history.
So they were originally Brythonic Britons from the borderlands in the Uk , they were enslaved by the Romans as they marched up and built Antonines Wall eventually freed and then absorbed by the Scots when the Roman’s left ,they moved to the Emerald Isle as non Gaelic,non Celtic loyalists,to out breed the native Gael’s and became Protestant Irish to do Englands bidding, then ended up trapped in the siege of Derry until the English came and saved their arse, moved from the Emerald Isle’s as Irish immigrants to America, then fought against the British loyalists and the crown, when settled observers noted they were lazy, dirty and inbred, they burned innocent women as witches, appropriated the Scottish Gaelic name Clan for their anti- coloured persecution using the highland tradition of of the fiery cross to gather the clan members! Wow ! What a lot to unpack, it’s hard to believe that these Protestant Irish would want to change their name to Scotch Irish to disassociate themselves from the Catholic Irish, maybe they just drank more Scotch than the Catholics , having said that I doubt the Scots or Irish would like to be associated with these .. . er britons, Scot’s, Irish,Appalachian, American? , what do they call themselves these days?
There WAS Irish (Catholic) Irish emigration to the United States before the Great Famine. Quite a bit. Who built the early railroads? Who were murdered at Duffy's Cut? Hunger in Ireland did not start with the Great Famine. Although it seems to me that Irish tend to get much more attached to their ancestral place than the Scots descent people.
Nice of you to show the Donegal flag at the start of the video, Ulster is made up of 9 counties not six. 3 of which are part of the republic 6 Northern Ireland. The northwest of Ireland Tirconnell.the Scots Irish didn't see themselves as Anything other than Irish. Well the English had been invited by an excommunicated Irish Chieftain who sought the help of the English King to get back his crown. But it didn't go to plan. The normans were sent to Irish by the English King to take over the lands in Ireland with the blessings of the Pope at the time the Chieftains daughter married a norman lord so they ended up coming more Irish than the Irish. South east of Ireland spoke french irish English, the west Irish, east Irish viking the north gollowglass irish scottish as Scotland and the north of Ireland spoken languages were very much the same. Greek was widely spoken throughout Ireland for the purposes of trade. An interesting take on the scots Irish Ulster Scots. I am of Scots Irish decent which I hold dear of my family heritage on both sides. Indentured wasn't the true case many of the Scots and irish actually were sent to America as slaves because they went against the English crown. Maybe we could be able to help you with much of your work here. Don't say british Isles to a a Scot or a Irish man. Through the 98 peace agreement shall be known as The Isles. Prespriterian and Catholic fought against the English together for a free Ireland 🇮🇪. It was the prespriterians started the United Irishmen The IRB against the crown. Protestant and Catholic united against the English for a united Ireland in 1798 rebellion and up to the freestate. It was the irish brought the kilt and the bagpipes to Scotland.
For me one of the greatest crimes against humanity; following the holocaust is th crime of colonialisation and displacement of natives from their own land by force. On a day when the king was coronated, one must say there is a lot of blood of innocents on the those colourful garments and crown. This was totally against democracy and destroyed many cultures throughout the world; leaving the natives in poverty and leading to 100s of years of turmoil
Was it just the British or was it every single other civilization that has ever lived since the dawn of time, that “colonized” places, and displaced people?
@@walshjoseph7991 Do we need to continue and talk about all the other empires through history? Point is, it’s what humans do. Blaming a group of people or having guilt for things that we haven’t ourselves done doesn’t get us anywhere. No offense to you, it’s just something that I constantly here. Hope you have a spectacular weekend!
@@familytreenutshistorygenealogy just because humans have done it doesnt make it right. Recognising wrong doing and mutual respect and equality should help prevent re occurence of wrong doing in the future.....
Judge - you should tell them about the lands of Dalriada which stretched from county Donegal to Stirling in Scotland. It was known as the land of the Gaels. At the time of Columba there was a famous Gael Chieftain called Aedan of the Gaels, King of Scots. They were descended from the Scotti tribe, which was distinct from the peoples who lived in southern Hibernia, as the Romans called it. The last Gael in Scotland was Malcolm Canmore who lived about circa 1100 AD, and had his base in Dunfermline. He married Margaret who was English.
Ulster is nine, six counties are occupied. Surnames were O'Donnell and O'Neill. There was no northern Ireland until 1921 and there's no official flag, it was northern Ireland government flag. The reason why a lot of Scots Irish left Ireland it was because of a thing called the penal laws. The church of Ireland would be use suppressed religious freedom and collect the tax money from all parts of Ireland for the English government. The same system was used in the American colonies until the war of independence. Look up the United Irish men.
The original “Scott’s Irish” come from the boarder of England and Scotland, 50/50 English and Scottish- moved by the government to Ireland. Then went to America- why are the English from the boarder called “Scott’s Irish”???
@@familytreenutshistorygenealogyIt’s difficult of course to be familiar with every detail of a country, even a country you have close connections to, and I did find your lecture most interesting. But he’s correct, Northern Ireland is not Ulster, as 3 Ulster counties are in the Republic of Ireland. Also, you are correct in stating that the English administration did not want Highland Scots involved in the plantation of Ulster because of the residue of Catholicism in the highlands. But it’s also worth noting that they did not want highlanders involved because they were Gaelic, and therefore very susceptible to being absorbed by the native Irish population. The plantation of Ulster was to serve as a “British” wedge between the two Gaelic strongholds, of Ireland and the Scottish highlands. Anyway, thanks for your lecture, and keep up the good work.
There are nine counties of Ulster seven counties have voted for Dail Erinn rule the pale in Ireland is down to two c Counties of Antrim and Down. The british government does not recognise democracy in Ulster.
@familytreenutshistorygenealogy what iam saying as a Scottish protestant is the majority in Ulster want European and Irish government. Maybe it is to do with the modern day problems in that area of the world costing 3500 peoples lives and remembering mo fhein Sean athair bho tir conail Agus huile daoine na Ulaidh nis Sith. Erinn Agus Alba gu brath! Ar daoine.
@familytreenutshistorygenealogy the U.S has a big part to do with peace and democracy 🙏 a lot of people from here and Scotland gave their all for the American dream they certainly do deserve to be remembered for what they died for. Sith airson h'uile daoine nis. 🇮🇪 🇺🇸 .
It depends on where you are from. Yes the correct term is Ulster Scots in Europe but in the United States they have been referred to as Scots-Irish. If you mention Ulster Scots to most anyone in the U.S., very few would know what you are talking about. He actually talks about this in the video.
Im sure Presbyterianism is part of Protestantism, which broke away from Roman Catholic Europe. Here in the West Indies, there are many Presbyterian Anglican churches.
I am an Irish CATHOLIC American and find this very cringy. But thankfully, the "Ulster Scots" immigrants here in America didn't bring their 12th of July traditions here. And isn't it ironic that the at the College of William and Mary in Virginia, the school color is GREEN. There is hope in the 6 Counties today now that Nationalists are the majority, DUP is marginalized, and with the aid of Brexit, Ireland will be united, if the British allow it.
@@JohnnieFinlay007 First... St. Patrick was an ordained bishop in the ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH, wtf would Catholic haters bring Catholic traditions to America... I laugh at your assertion. I saw IRELAND wear GREEN in the OLYMPICS! Yeah maybe I will agree the RoI does NOT want lunatic "Unionists" burning mountains of pallets every 12 July within its borders. And it really doesn't matter if either RoI or NI advocate unification because based on the Good Friday Agreement, only the UK has the authority to make it happen, and the UK won't ever do that. And here in Amerikay, those descendants of Scots Irish do not identify as ever being Irish. You might be right, I have a lot of negative feelings towards the Unionist community in NI, because I see them as the historical oppressors, not the oppressed. But none of that transfers to the USA. Oh by the way... "Math" is a singular noun.
The Scots and the Irish are the same people. They just tweaked their Gaelic language and accents. Norwegians and Danes intermarried into both distinct groups. As the Angles and Saxons did.
robert woolstencroft.....wrong. no such tribe as the scotti. it's written and pronounced gallic in scotland . the gauls/galls came from the frankish regions of europe.they were always at war with the romans so they fled to england.then when the romans invaded england they then fled to and settled in scotland. the gaels is a mythical tale written by medieval irish monks to create an history for ireland. that's why they are called scottish GALLowglass in ireland....no gaeloglass
Yep actually Ireland were called Scots by the romans and when they settled in Scotland and the Norman's eventually went to Britain they started calling the northern Britons Scots and that's how Scotland got the name Scotland apparently.
@alexanderv.......the scots never came from ireland neither did the name scotland. this nonsense the scots was an irish tribe is what it is nonsense. a mythical tale written by medieval irish monks to create an identity for ireland on a par with the romans/greeks.
I'm an Ulster woman born and bred, and yes, here we call ourselves Ulster Scots aka "The planters", which we are called as an insult.
My Scottish family were called Ross and Napier, and over here we are still proud of our Scottish heritage. My late fathers ancestry was mostly Irish.
Saying that, I'm proud of my country, North and South, as well as my Irish brethren. ❤️ 🤝
Oh and lastly, once I joined My Ancestry I didn't realise how many relatives I have in America, in fact I have more living there than anywhere else.
Thankyou for your post ♥️
Love your comment. You should be very proud of your roots!
Me too - I've got American second cousins all over the place
The backbone of the KKK eventually too. Aswell as strong links to Far Right groups in Germany & Holland presently
We need Irish people come back stand up for Ireland 🇮🇪
Americans need know there is 9 countries in ulster, and 6 were taken to make artificial majority thanhs without prejudice
Scots Irish were the shock troops of the American frontier. It was their likes - the 'Overt the Mountain Men' - who made the difference at the Battle of King's Mountain. Proud to be a descendant.
Absolutely. A tough bunch!
I was borne in northern Ireland now live in newyork, ten american presidents come from northern Ireland infact my maternal grandmother's maiden name was Wilson and my paternal grandmother's maiden name was McKinley two american presidents.
I served in the Army from 1968-70, Nam years. If it weren't for hillbillies and Irish boys from south Boston there would not have been an infantry. A great bunch of guys.
BTW-no religious problems with those guys.
I'm a descendant of a captain that fought there too. Would love to visit his grave in North Carolina someday.
My family came to the colonies from County Down, Ulster in 1763. We arrived in Charles Town ( Charleston ), then moved southwest, into Georgia, Alabama, Louisiana, and Texas, founding Law’s Chapel, Texas, just west of Shreveport, Louisiana. Every Law that I have met has been a descendant of George Law, my ancestor, who was, by trade, a weaver. Thanks for this presentation, I found it very informative!❤
Thank you Judge, this is so refreshing , to hear pure facts , the reality of what has been for centuries a complex picture of the movement of populations into Ireland and out of Ireland, often for purely economic reasons , sometimes because of the politics of the House of Stewart, later the House of Orange, then the Hanoverians, Germans, Saints preserve us! We often simplify this story by narrowing it down to local politics when in reality in the 1600s and before, Europe was in convulsions, the Thirty Years War from 1618 to 1648 as an example, then, as you so rightly point out, we have Oliver Cromwell, vilified quite rightly throughout Catholic Ireland, but really unknown in the Protestant North, why, because you get your history from your own people. In Northern Ireland we talk of Planter and Gael, but thank you for reminding us that the Planter, mostly the lowland Scottish Presbyterian Dissenter, did not always stay in Ireland, but moved on to Philadelphia and further, taking up space in the new world a century before the Gael was forced to follow him out of his homeland by pure hunger. The story of the Highland Clearances in Scotland is a totally separate chapter because Highlander is definitely different from Lowland Scot, and has a very different story to tell. I could talk about the English from the Vale of Evesham in Worcestershire who planted the apple trees in North Armagh . I could talk about how the English game of cricket came to Ireland, another complicated story. Nothing is quite what it seems. The Protestants of Northern Ireland, and down the eastern side of the island as far as county Waterford, were a very mixed crew, Presbyterians from Scotland, Anglicans from England, Methodists, Baptists, Pentecostals, and of course, the Quakers. Lurgan, in County Armagh, still has its old Friends Meeting House. Thank you for your talk. I enjoyed it immensely.
Excellent presentation. My family is Ulster-Scot that settled Eastern Kentucky.
Scots-Irish/English on Dad's side and Scots-Irish/Dutch on Mom's side from Jackson County, NC. My heritage the legacy of those simple, intelligent, and stubborn bloodlines who tackled the Smokies with, axe, adze, musket, and their Bibles.
Proud of our Ulster Scots diaspora.
Amen
How can an ulsterman be a Scot Ulster is in Ireland ask any of the Paisley clan and daddy Ian who wanted no part of the republic always referred to himself as an Irishman and said that been an ulsterman and been an Irishman go hand in hand and many ulstermen define themselves as irishmen who are loyal to Britain
@@Minime163 Ethnicity, nationality and political allegiance are all entirely different concepts. They may be connected or they may not, depending on the individual. This is what makes the world we share interesting.
@@gower23 true and I'm shure most people are proud of their ethnic backgrounds but at the end of the day no matter what your political allegiance or ethnic background your of the country your born In
I'm probably a decendent of Thomas Wiley/Wylie from Northern Ireland. The initial problem about the marriage may have been as a result of the Penal Laws in the 1700s, the Wileys are mostly protestant. However it may also relate to the Covenentor Wars in Scotland. Many covenentors were deported to America after their defeat. A Thomas Wiley was one of 5 Wileys who drowned in the sinking of the Crown of Londoo ship off the Orkneys.
The Covenanters were not defeated, they ultimately won and established Presbyterianism in Scotland. The pure form of the Church, is The Reformed Presbyterian Church, which is established in many countries throughout the world.
There are many good books, giving accurate accounts of the struggles for The Covenanted Work of Reformation in Scotland, that are worth reading to prevent any misunderstandings of history.
Very interesting and educational!! Great presentation!!
Glad that you enjoyed it!
I would just like to say, "Your description of the Scots from Ulster is the most exact I have ever seen Sir!" I salute you. My name is John Parker, the eldest sibling so I got the land, my younger siblings through the generations had to travel to find land, land was the key and they were born fighting to find that land. Superb sermon Reverend 💯
Thank you for your support!
Very good presentation very informative on the heritage.
Glad you enjoyed it Kym!
I'm from Northern Ireland now living in the USA, ten american presidents come from Northern Ireland, five from County antrim where I'm from. Infact my maternal grandmothers maiden name was Wilson and my paternal grandmothers maiden name was McKinley. There is a great book ( Borne Fighting) by James webb.
Awesome stuff, and yes, that is my favorite book!
Both of McKinley's grandmothers had my last name.
Thanks for sharing John. I too am from Northern Ireland originally, Co. Antrim. I moved when I was school aged, to the U.S. I miss my granny and granda, who spoke consistent with the Ulster Scots language. I have tapes somewhere of myself speaking, but that was years ago now. My family originated from Aughagash. I’d be surprised if anyone knew of that area. It’s farm land more than anything. I’m very Americanized but I know where I’m from and how it’s shaped me. I worry that one day this way of living, speaking and connecting with others could be lost. All the best.
@@RollForever88 I was born and raised in North Belfast, witnessed a lot of violence. In fact Ian paisley came to my house and did the funeral service for. MY grandfathered who got b wounded at the battle of the somme he was 44yrs when he went over the top 36th ulster division my father was born in 1928 so my grandfather was pushing 60 when my father was born, my other grandfather was a street corner preacher. I was raised Brethren a no nonsense evangelical denomination.
James Webb later made a movie about his book, which updated the information and included more recent events in America. This is a very good video. 😎
My family names are Sullivan, Palmer, Moor, Killough
and Jones. My husband’s parents were Gilliland, McMurphy, Thomason, Walker, and McFarland.
Proud to be Scottish and Irish. Lynn in Naples FL. 😎
Thanks very much for the history. However, one little detail: Ulster Scots continued emigrating to North America after the American Revolution - they just went to Canada. My own Scots-Irish ancestors arrived in Nova Scotia and New Brunswick in the early to mid-1800s, some so early in the century that their children were born in Canada years before the potato famine commenced. Of the several families of my ancestors who made that trip, only one arrived in Canada after the potato famine began. Some of them were Presbyterian, others Anglican, so at least some of my Ulster Scots ancestors apparently decided it was easier to go along with the English than fight them. Then, in the 20th century, my grandfather and several of his siblings and cousins moved from Maritime Canada into New England looking for better economic opportunities. And now, I have distant cousins all across the USA and Canada.
An interesting point on bagpipes, an instrument that is deeply seeded on the scots Irish ulster scots protestants would be the Lambeg drum would rival a bag pipe for noise.
I’ll have to check that out.
If you check the bagpipes we're in Scotland long before protestant 😂😂Oh there also Gaelic and Irish ,🙄
@Bernard Inglis ,oldest bagpipes in the World are the Ancient Wicklow bagpipes Ireland ! 2400 years old!
@@joebyrne3159 uilleann pipes actually uilleann meaning elbow.
@@joebyrne3159 Then thats before the celts invaded ireland, so they are not celtic origin. A very interesting point.
Ulster David Poe was the son of John and namesake and grandson of David Poe of the Scotch Covenanter of 1667; Father of Alexander, John, and daughter, Anne, and great-great grandfather of Edgar Allen Poe.
I don't mean to be picky and I hope it is ok to say this but its important. I am Irish from the republic of Ireland by the way . There is a tiny mistake here in your video . Ulster is NOT the six counties of Northern Ireland Ulster is made up of NINE counties. Six of which make up Northern Ireland. And THREE of which are in the Republic of Ireland. Cavan Monaghan and Donegal are very much part of Ulster and the republic of Ireland. They are VERY nationalist and very proudly Irish. And yes they do have some ulster scots too or scotch Irish some of them are even protestant ..they would refer to themselves as Irish or Ulster Scotch never british tho and I can't tell you HOW Irish they are. And the other six counties of Ulster are in Northern Ireland and yes they would say Ulster Scots or British . Fermanagh, Antrim, Tyrone, Derry( the British might call this London Derry), Armagh, Belfast and Down are in Northern Ireland and the population is a mix of British (ulster scots and protestant ) and Irish (catholics). Ulster is a large province. And ulster culture is very much a part of the Republic of Ireland aswell as Northern Ireland. And some in the republic would even speak scots in lagan country. But you are totally correct in everything else so its a great video. Well done I really enjoyed it. It was an AMAZING video and an amazing channel. Sorry again if this sounds picky because I was really impressed with the video. Thanks!
Don't be sorry, that was a very interesting read and I learned a lot. Thank you!!!
You're right- my family's from Cavan. That whole region of Ireland was historically called Ulster, but the 3 counties you mentioned are included in the Republic.
Your right he made one slight error, otherwise very good and informative.
The boundary was badly drawn and left many Presbyterians in the catholic free state and many catholics in the uk
Actually the closest point between Scotland & Ireland is 12 miles not 20
Excellent, succint overview. Well done Sir.
Great presentation! Very informative and quite interesting!
Thank you ma’am! Glad the Judge presented it for us!
4:22 Cool! I never knew that the Scots-Irish are called Ulster-Scots across the pond (I guess that’s the beauty of diverging paths in history).
We are often lost in our own world in the United States, lol.
That would only be ireland,the british just call them irish for the most part
@@gallowglass2630 We mostly also call ourselves British but I think you know that.
@@TrevorWylie-kx7uj but half of your population call themselves Irish, and the world knows that!
@@anniegrath1417 the majority of us in Northern Ireland claim to be British in the latest census only 19% claim to be Irish only. Every poll recently taken shows that the vast majority would vote to remain part of the United Kingdom, a United Ireland is as far away as it has ever been.
Thank you!
Yes ma’am!
As a Scottish resident l found this an interesting talk. The only bit l felt was missing the fact that many of the Scots who ended up in America via Ireland were originally from border riever families who were ruthlessly cleared out by King James after the union of the crowns because of their unruly ways. There’s a great book called Steel bonnets which talks about the traits these people took across with them to America such as their hardiness, love of fiddle music and not so good traits such as the inclination to have long standing feuds between different family clans
Can you ascertain the accuracy of the following:
The English government in Westminster gained the cooperation of the landed Scottish lairds to effect the "clearances" of Highland families.
This campaign also resulted in the development of the woolen industry in Scotland, as the Scottish hillsides were repopulated by sheep.
There was a controversial thing on Britain called "The Clearances" which I don't know much about but I understand it was not all that long ago and is part of the reason why there is a popular movement in Scotland today for separation from England
I think it was directed against rural Highlanders @@theelizabethan1
@@theelizabethan1yes, that's what they did, but that came over 150 years after James the 1st an 6th cleared the border reiving rider families of the Scottish an English marches.
An reivers who remained became known as mosstroopers in fermanagh.
Great presentation. Greetings from a Donegal ( Tír Chonaill ) man!
I don't know what I am? I think my family moved from Ireland to the outer Hebrides in the 1300's. They remained Roman Catholic and then moved to Canada in the 1850's and then Michigan in the 1870's. There must have been a huge move to Michigan in the 1870's because my whole French Canadian side picked up and moved to Michigan in the 1870's as well.
It was mentioned that immigration to America stopped around 1775 due to the war. Did is restart after the the war? When and to what degree? Thank you! Great video!
Thank you sir. Immigration while almost always constant had few waves through America history, usually matching European conflict. I large wave happened in the 1830s and 1840s, again around 1880s and then again around 1900-1920ish.
Thomas and Jenny Wiley were my 4th great grandparents, through their daughter Mary Jane who married Richard Williamson.
Interesting! I heard it said that there are more Scottish in America than there are in Scotland.
I’d say so, we have spread out so much.
Dare I say,of those Americans who have Irish ancestry,around half are actually Scotch-Irish ?
@@frederickhermann4904 That would be quite easy to count.
@@frederickhermann4904 No because there's no evidence for that whatsoever.
@@Maestro4759 I think there may be,there were 2 or 3 immigration waves starting around 200 years before the potato famine.That’s 8 generations before the main Irish wave of immigration
My Irish Scottish royal family (Boitlers/Butlers) came to American through Nova Scotia lived there and then Maine, Vermont, Massachusetts. My immediate family are Butlers (Norseman) and Cannings/Canon.. my grandfather who raised me is Warren Butler his dad Tom Butler, then James Butler etc. (there is also a Tabias and Patrick.. I have to look again but I think after Patrick Butler in Ireland was the one who didn’t leave Ireland. I have a very unique family ancestry. I always knew about Kilkenny growing up and traced a lot of our migration
Thank you for posting this I really appreciate it
God bless the. Irish ☘️. &. Scots 🏴 THE GEAL"S
Gaels well said Sir.
You’re a wonderful man.
A scot American here too
The toughest bunch
Proud Scottish 🫡 Cummings & Baird
It is important to know that the persecution of Presbyterians was not at the hands of Catholics in Ireland . Both Presbyterian and Catholics were persecuted by the Crown.
Farmers in Ireland own their own land .
Farmers in England pay rent to the great landowners who still own the land .
Many of these are descendants of the 180 or so followers of William the Conqueror who were granted land after Hastings and the conquest of England .
Irish farmers finally won ownership of their land as a result of the Land Wsrs and the Encumbered Estates Act .
A brilliant presentation . Thank you .
The funniest thing about the Scottish Clan Tartans is that they never existed until maybe Victorian Times. There were no individual Clan Tartans. They wore whatever wool that was available, each Clan wasn’t decked out in a particular pattern. What’s even funnier is that after the last Jacobite Rebelion and the Battle of Culloden. King George 11 who was actually Germanic banned Tartans, Bagpipes to put an end to the Clan System. King George wasn’t English he was German and the current House of Windsor came from Saxony . They changed their name during WW1 from Saxe Coburg Gotha
When you ban something it always makes people want it more.
He has a hatred for the Celtic races Gaels
😂😂😂 Catholics never imagrated till 1840s 😂😂, There's no family tartan back in the 17th century
As a born and Bred Scotsman, You can't fly from Glasgow to Edinburgh, Plus Glasgow and Edinburgh are both Lowland city's 😂😂😂😂😂 , So how you flew from the Highlands is amazing ,
Correct
Judge great presentation
Ulster also contains three countries in the "Republic" viz. Donegal, Cavan, & Monaghan and there are many Ulster Scots there to this day.
Its actually ironic that the only peasful orange parades with bearly any police/guarda presence take place in these counties of the republic 😂😂😂
The route of the movements of many of the people from Ireland (mostly Protestant) is followed along the Great Wagon Road as shown in the video but didn't some of the people from Northern Ireland filter farther west into such as the Greenbrier Valley and Kanawha Valley-even deep into Western Appalachia?
I believe maybe a bit more breaking down of the barrier between Irish Irish and Scots Irish? (Than farther east or of course,in Ireland itself) Reflected in some of the mountain folk music and wakes/keening held for the deceased family members?
Interesting and coming from an Irish point of view .a fair and balanced speech. Felt sorry for the Indians which was glossed over.
Ulster comprises the 9 most northerly counties of the island of Ireland, Northern Ireland is a political entity comprising 6 of the 9 counties of Ulster. The remaining 3 counties of Ulster being part of the politic entity The Republic of Ireland. 32 counties on the island in all. ✌
I seen a video of an American woman interviewed in the 1920s who was elderly and had actually owned slaves her accent had undoubtedly Irish Ulster tones to it.
Incredibly well done , as someone from Ulster Co. Antrim and a Young orange man who recently celebrated the 1690 victory on the glorious 12th of July
We are glad an Ulsterman approves!
The founded the United Irish why are so orange now ,what changed
The 12th of July 😂😂 where they burn National flags and effigies of Irish politicians on Bon fires and call it culture 😂😂😂 it’s just a hate fest.
Two very different people. We are Protestants. Not papists.
@@normawilson7941 aren’t half your population papists, to the world you are the same people living on one island, the bigotry is only in your own head!
My last name is Mc Conville and our ancestry is Ulster County Down, around or near Belfast. People of this name and people may have been part of this.
I am related to William Penn on my mom’s side too..
That kjv dig is a red herring
I was always told that a lot of northern English went to ulster
Definitely. He mentioned that in this video as well.
Definitely did for sure!
Ulster, by definition, includes two counties in Irish Republic. It's really funny that the Flag of Ulster uses the Red Hand who belong to Ui Neill. They still claiming today their Galician ancestry as descendants of legendary Mil Spain.
Three counties in the republic monaghan cavan and donegal.
Always wondered about the origin of the red hand
Never knew it was galician
Thanks
@@terryjross1184 It's not. That guy is talking rubbish its the official seal of the O'Niell family. It comes from an old folk tale about a man cutting off his own hand to win a race where the winner was decided by who touched the ground first. O ' Neill cut off his hand and threw it to the finishing line. But now its very offensive to Irish people and its used by loyalist paramilitaries. It would be seen as extreme today by a lot of Irish people. There could be a similiar symbol in galicia but they are unconnected. Some irish people still use it in fact in the north its the only symbol used by both communities. But by a lot of people in the south its hated because of its connection with loyalist paramilitaries. So its not really used offficially in the south that much due to it being contraversial.
@@silverkitty2503 ok cheers
@@silverkitty2503 , It is in fact used in the "South" but in its original form, without the "Crown" above the Red Hand. I like what you have written previously. You seem an open minded intelligent person and I wish you well. I put the south in parenthesis for a reason. The most northerly part of Ireland is in what northerners call the South
Yep my Butler fam came over in 1700s to Nova Scotia
Not sure where I fit in here. My mother said we were Scotch-Irish on her father's side. And he was Presbyterian, and the family lore is that an ancestor migrated from Scotland to Northern Ireland, and then his descendants came to America. However, these events didn't happen till the 19th century, plus the ancestor was from the Highlands. I guess his ancestors had initially been excluded because of the fear that they might be Catholic, even though they weren't. Anyway, yes, there is a tartan associated with him, though I don't know the whereabouts of any bagpipes.
John not all Highlanders were catholic, and not all Lowlanders were Protestant. The Campbells who are a Highland Clan are mostly Protestant, and although the Hamilton's are a Lowland family, there is a catholic branch as well. Also the Hamilton family received lands from King James in Ireland, and became the Dukes of Abercorn, who were catholic. Judge Preston does give a very good talk, with 99% of it being accurate but he does make a few errors, but don't we all.
@@gordonhull7342 Thanks. Yes, the Campbell clan is what we are descended from, though apparently we married into a couple other clans as well.
I don't think that most of the Ulster Presbyterians behaved like the Border Reivers.
Also the reputation of the Frontier as being violent I think had much to do with the fact that outlaws of all kinds and origins would tend to go to the Frontier to escape law and authorities that had much more control in the settled areas,I don't think all of the banditry was the fault of the Scots-Irish (or of the Irish)
thanks. that was a great presentation.
Glad you enjoyed it sir!
I visited the Alamo last week on the trail of the Ulster Scot’s who died there and was surprised to see an Irish tricolour flying inside the Alamo . This has nothing to do with the Ulster Scots and didn’t come into existence until 80 years after the Alamo. The Ulster Scot’s were mainly Presbyterians from Northern Ireland
A few thoughts and themes for discussion:
- Who first used the label "Scotch-Irish" or "Ulster Scots"? Was it a self identifier or an ethnographer's term?
- There is a shading of Protestants throughout Ireland: more Presbyterians in the north; Anglicans in the south, but are their theological differences really related to geography? Whoever heard of a "Munster Anglican" (Episcopalian)?
- Did General McGavock, Irish-American commander of the 10th Tennnessee - Sons of Erin - Regiment of the Confederate Army, and bearer of a Scots Gaelic patronymic, identiy as Irish-American Protestant? or Presbyterian? or Episcopalian? He doesn't seem to have identified as Scotch Irish or Ulster Scots.
- Would the term Irish-American Presbyterian be a more accurate term?
- Did some social/political, as opposed to ethnographic/accademic need arise to differentiate between the Irish-American Presbyterians and the Irish-American Catholics before about 1830, and especially in the 1840s/50s?
- Would it be true to say that the central period of Irish-American Presbyterian political and social influence coincided with the lifespan of Andrew Jackson (1767-1845), with an afterglow in the immediate ante bellum period?
- And finally, is it possible to discuss the Irish and Irish-American Protestants without reference to the Irish and Irish-American Catholics? Including Catholics with origins in the nine northern counties of Ireland ("Ulster", according to the Catholics) such as Union generals Sheridan (Cavan) and Shields (Tyrone) and Confederate general Finnegan (Monahan)?
I actually seen a cookery come history documentary where a Scots man and an ulsterman two chefs went to a place in America where there were alot of Ulster Presbyterians whose ancestors had settled in this part of rural America but the Ulster man was talking to one man in particular and he referred to him as Scots Irish and this man said what are you talking about my people were Irish ulstermen what's this about Scots Irish.
Did you just forget to mention General Cleburne of the Confederacy?
@@theelizabethan1 Patrick Ronayne Cleburne was from Munster, not Ulster.
I know lots of protestants living in the Republic of Ireland and they all identify as "Irish". Things are so different in Northern Ireland. We find the Loyalist mindset just nonsensical.
My ggg grandfather from Omagh co tryrone moved to Western Pa 1806 .His son became William A Wallace US Senator .
It appears to me that British brutality to Ireland and Northern Ireland :I think both Irish Catholics and Ulster Scot Presbyterians were persecuted: helped to seal the destiny that Britain/England would lose the American Colonies.
Very interesting. I knew the roots to the Irish revolution went pretty far back but never knew that the reason why ulster was so different then the rest of Ireland was because the king of England was basically immigrating protestant Scottsmen to settle there way back in the 17th century. Always wondered why the orange brigade stayed with the UK even though they have Gaelic blood and heritage. And the whole lowland and highland difference is interesting and something that is new to me as well. My only complaint about the video is I wish you'd say Natives instead of Indians.. it's been over 500 years since that joke we call Columbus and yet we still call them Indians because of his failure... he doesn't deserve a holiday but I digress. Great video.
Yes tons of complicated history in that little area. As far as what a group of people is called, it really doesn’t matter what we call people, we will always have those that think they should be called something else.
@@familytreenutshistorygenealogy that's a great remark actually and a fair point. Great video man I'll definatly check out more.
@@comradeconrad3636 Thank you sir. We have experimented with different things when it comes to groups of people & we get grief no matter what. Lol
Comrade conrad Ulster scots would not be of gaelic origin as such.Gaelic language was never spoken much in the scottish lowlands apart from the southwest galloway region ,The lowland scots are of a mix of brythonic celts and northern anglosaxons.
They aren't scots ie gaelic they speak "scots" which is a "language" of lowland anglos of scotland and germanic
Charles Carroll, the longest surviving signer of the American Declaration of Independence, was a Catholic of Irish descent.
So 😆
@@86ramc Just pointing out that the speaker in this video is wrong when he states that there was “essentially no Irish catholic emigration whatsoever” to America, before the famine of the 1840s. He states this about 21 minutes in, if you’d like to check it out.
@@PatAudreyK No, there’s no Thomas Lynch recorded as signing the Declaration of Independence.
Another Irish catholic forget his name was the artect who designed the white house.
@@PatAudreyK Profound apologies, you’re correct and right. Thomas Lynch did sign the declaration. I don’t think he was a catholic, as I’ve often seen it stated that Charles Carroll was the only catholic signatory. But with a name like Lynch, there’s no mistaking his origins.
There was considerable Ulster Scots and Irish Protestant immigration to Canada after the end of the Napoleonic wars, that is, after 1815. Many of their descendants later emigrated to the U.S.
Interesting. I knew about the mass Scottish immigration to Ontario but hadn’t heard about the Ulster Scots going there as well.
@@familytreenutshistorygenealogy About one half million people, the great majority of whom were Protestant, emigrated to Canada from Ireland 1815-1855. During that period they were the largest immigrant group. But only half of them came from Ulster, the rest came from Protestant areas of the south. Walt Disney's family for example were Anglo-Norman from Kilkenny.
The Orange Order remained a strong political force in Canada up until the 1960s.
Excellent presentation by a knowledgeable man. Just to add for further clarification the 31.5 million Americans that are said to claim Irish heritage have no association with the 26 counties and Catholicism. Catholicism being primarily synonymous with irishness up until the 1990s by the way. The vast majority of these individuals are actually of lowland/border Scots (Irish) ancestry and therefore far more Scottish and English than Irish. In actual fact there is no genetic Irish lineage (other than of the association with ancient Irish settlements in Scotland such as Dal Riata and so forth) as many of that cohort didn't even see the native Irish before they boarded the ships bound for the new world. The present phenomena of there being 31 million Irish in the USA is American Catholic Irish propaganda from the 1880s onwards.
What a load of codswallop you write are you 10 years old 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
369 Jones, There are a lot more details in this which you left, perhaps because you are unaware. The Irish, in the third century has been called Scotti by the Romans. The last High KIng of Ireland was named Emporer Scotorium. He died at the Battle of Clontarf in 1014. The Dal Riata descendants were the Highlanders. In 1746 at the Battle of Culloden, the English referred to the Highland Scottish as speaking with the "Irish tongue." Presbyterian's created the Irish Republican Brotherhood and fought in the 1798 rebellion to gain a Republic and separate from England. Obviously prior to the reformation all were Catholic's or non believers. The money lenders exploited the chasm as "doctrinal" but it was really about grabbing land by war (as is the true case today) . Today the justification for war and dispossession is couched as the moral superiority of "democracy" which claim is as realistic as "the Wizard of Oz" The Scots and the Irish were, originally, the same people. The lowland Scots were the most cruel and vicious to even the women and children of the Highlanders in the aftermath of Culloden. Look up the quotes from Captain Caroline Scott of the butcher William's Army if you want proof. There are 34 thousand versions of Christianity today. Who in the future, if humanity has a "future", will be claiming their version is the "right" one.
So what do you think happened to the descendants of the millions of catholic Irish who emigrated to America in the 1800s ? Where did they go ? if it’s all propaganda made up from the 1880s onwards.
@@ccahill2322 the irish were never called scotti. mythical nonsense from medieval irish monks. the emperor scotorum title was adopted from a roman one. the battle o clontarf was copied from the trojan war.emperor scotorum was a title given to him in the fictional book of armagh. you might want research the mythical columba also, and st patrick. scotlands name is not that auld and most likely has it's origins in scandinavia.the irish chronicum most likely copied from the scottish chronicum. no scots or scotti came from ireland..
@@brucecollins641 , Sure "Bruce" you got it all from the "history of Ulster" as per the Orange Order. Get lost with your revisionist bullsh#t.
I've been told I have an ancestor who was Scott's Irish. Sadky I don't know the specifics. Most of my geneology stuff was lost after my parents deaths, and a forced move. I saved what I could, but its in pieces, in boxes and on the net.
But I enjoy listening to the history of what I have heard, was one of my ancestors. Thanks.
A proud race, to deny the one, true, holy, sedevacantist Catholic Church that Our Lord Jesus Christ established in His infinite wisdom. Despite my username, I am Scots-Irish, from a long line down in rural Missouri.
Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, have mercy upon us sinners
I too am Catholic, a convert 24 years now. The KJV bible is wrong. Missing books. I pray for the misguided.
Scots/ Irish on my dad's side and Latina from mothers side.
Most irish farmers in the republic anyway own there own farms or part own them in the case of commonages.This is largely as a result of the land reform in the 1900s which came about through the agitation of the land league.There was a highland land league but there efforts weren't fruitful so no huge land transfer occurred in scotland.
Neat information, thanks for adding.
Charles Stewart Parnell a protestant and proud Irishman not only did he get the land back for the people but he also founded the Irish party not a man except maybe Michael Collins done more for the people than this great man.
The land reforms actually started in the 1880s/90s but took well into the 00s to get fully settled.
This talk misses a crucial element, the Union of the Crowns of England and Scotland in 1603. As a result the lawless folk (the border reivers) who lived on the Anglo-Scottish border became a major problem for James 1. They were forcibly deported to Ulster. Many of the most common Ulster Scots names (Graham, Dodds, Armstrong etc.) Are reiver names, descended from these deportees.
I don't think these border reivers were the same as the more typical Presbyterian Ulster Scots,some of whom I understand actually arrived as congregations with a pastor from their church among them on the ship !
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Ulster is 9 counties always !!!!!!!! - 6 of those counties are currently in Northern Ireland, the remaining 3 are in the Republic. Most of Ulster is and always has been just Irish with specific concentrations of Scots Irish in 3 just counties
It is my understanding that the KKK got the "Burning Cross" from the Scots.
From the British Billy boys hence hill Billy's,,, but the irish rebels sorted them fairly quicky
The Irish seem to always be blaming the English. The better thing to say would be that the problem started with the Normans who weren’t English. The Normans did the same thing to the Anglo Saxons and Welsh as well as the Scots.
There is always someone to blame, depending on what side you are on.
Our families ended up here in America the same time period. Not because of the English but because of the British Crown who weren’t English
There is another theory,that Laudabiliter allowed the Normans to take Ireland.For obvious reasons,this is a scenario that most Southern Irish tend not to entertain
The Normans assimilated, inter-married, adopted the culture, and learned to speak the language. They became Gaels. The English tried to supplant and dominate the Irish, destroying their culture and language.
The Irish blame the English because the majority Catholic population on the island were the subject of continued discrimination and repeated slaughter which would today be viewed as attempts at genocide. The plantations of Munster and Ulster were the first, Cromwell's campaign in 1649 the second and the famine of the 1840's the third. Ireland produced plenty of other food which was exported at gunpoint whilst the potatoes than most of the population depended on rotted in the fields. A million died and another million plus emigrated. The population is still not back to that of 1840.
The Presbyterians of Ulster (which has 9 not 6 countries, one of the few inaccuracies I noticed in the presentation) were also the subject of many of the penal laws that came after the Williamite wars in 1691 and this was a huge reason for the emigration of the Ulster Scots throughout the 18th century. Many of those that stayed led the rebellion against the Crown in 1798. Ironically they were swayed by the ideas of the American and French Revolutions but the Government of the new American state refused to accept the ringleaders as exiles after they were defeated and rounded up. Some came to the US independently anyway if they were fortunate enough to escape or their families wealthy or influential enough to buy their release. Many Presbyterians had done quite well for themselves before they left Ulster so they were far from destitute. They were not full and equal citizens in Ulster though and they were too successful and educated to be prepared to put up with that any longer. Though they disliked Popery, those behind 1798 saw their common cause with Catholics and sought to ally with them to overthrow the Crown. Throughout the early 19th century all that changed leading them to find common cause with the Anglicans. I've gone on a bit but the story of the revolutionary Presbyterians of that time is one of the most fascinating and unexpected in Irish history.
So they were originally Brythonic Britons from the borderlands in the Uk , they were enslaved by the Romans as they marched up and built Antonines Wall eventually freed and then absorbed by the Scots when the Roman’s left ,they moved to the Emerald Isle as non Gaelic,non Celtic loyalists,to out breed the native Gael’s and became Protestant Irish to do Englands bidding, then ended up trapped in the siege of Derry until the English came and saved their arse, moved from the Emerald Isle’s as Irish immigrants to America, then fought against the British loyalists and the crown, when settled observers noted they were lazy, dirty and inbred, they burned innocent women as witches, appropriated the Scottish Gaelic name Clan for their anti- coloured persecution using the highland tradition of of the fiery cross to gather the clan members! Wow ! What a lot to unpack, it’s hard to believe that these Protestant Irish would want to change their name to Scotch Irish to disassociate themselves from the Catholic Irish, maybe they just drank more Scotch than the Catholics , having said that I doubt the Scots or Irish would like to be associated with these .. . er britons, Scot’s, Irish,Appalachian, American? , what do they call themselves these days?
There WAS Irish (Catholic) Irish emigration to the United States before the Great Famine.
Quite a bit. Who built the early railroads? Who were murdered at Duffy's Cut?
Hunger in Ireland did not start with the Great Famine. Although it seems to me that Irish tend to get much more attached to their ancestral place than the Scots descent people.
Nice of you to show the Donegal flag at the start of the video, Ulster is made up of 9 counties not six.
3 of which are part of the republic 6 Northern Ireland.
The northwest of Ireland Tirconnell.the Scots Irish didn't see themselves as Anything other than Irish.
Well the English had been invited by an excommunicated Irish Chieftain who sought the help of the English King to get back his crown.
But it didn't go to plan.
The normans were sent to Irish by the English King to take over the lands in Ireland with the blessings of the Pope at the time the Chieftains daughter married a norman lord so they ended up coming more Irish than the Irish.
South east of Ireland spoke french irish English, the west Irish, east Irish viking the north gollowglass irish scottish as Scotland and the north of Ireland spoken languages were very much the same.
Greek was widely spoken throughout Ireland for the purposes of trade.
An interesting take on the scots Irish Ulster Scots.
I am of Scots Irish decent which I hold dear of my family heritage on both sides.
Indentured wasn't the true case many of the Scots and irish actually were sent to America as slaves because they went against the English crown.
Maybe we could be able to help you with much of your work here.
Don't say british Isles to a a Scot or a Irish man.
Through the 98 peace agreement shall be known as The Isles.
Prespriterian and Catholic fought against the English together for a free Ireland 🇮🇪.
It was the prespriterians started the United Irishmen The IRB against the crown.
Protestant and Catholic united against the English for a united Ireland in 1798 rebellion and up to the freestate.
It was the irish brought the kilt and the bagpipes to Scotland.
Scotland got its name from a Irish tribe ,the SCOTTI ,
For me one of the greatest crimes against humanity; following the holocaust is th crime of colonialisation and displacement of natives from their own land by force. On a day when the king was coronated, one must say there is a lot of blood of innocents on the those colourful garments and crown. This was totally against democracy and destroyed many cultures throughout the world; leaving the natives in poverty and leading to 100s of years of turmoil
Was it just the British or was it every single other civilization that has ever lived since the dawn of time, that “colonized” places, and displaced people?
@@familytreenutshistorygenealogy not just the British; 80 per cent of this Planet was under British rule in the 1800s
@@walshjoseph7991 Do we need to continue and talk about all the other empires through history? Point is, it’s what humans do. Blaming a group of people or having guilt for things that we haven’t ourselves done doesn’t get us anywhere. No offense to you, it’s just something that I constantly here. Hope you have a spectacular weekend!
@@familytreenutshistorygenealogy just because humans have done it doesnt make it right. Recognising wrong doing and mutual respect and equality should help prevent re occurence of wrong doing in the future.....
@@walshjoseph7991 Wouldn’t it be nice if that happened? However, it just isn’t possible, humans will always conquer each other for resources.
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Judge - you should tell them about the lands of Dalriada which stretched from county Donegal to Stirling in Scotland. It was known as the land of the Gaels. At the time of Columba there was a famous Gael Chieftain called Aedan of the Gaels, King of Scots. They were descended from the Scotti tribe, which was distinct from the peoples who lived in southern Hibernia, as the Romans called it. The last Gael in Scotland was Malcolm Canmore who lived about circa 1100 AD, and had his base in Dunfermline. He married Margaret who was English.
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Ulster is nine, six counties are occupied. Surnames were O'Donnell and O'Neill. There was no northern Ireland until 1921 and there's no official flag, it was northern Ireland government flag. The reason why a lot of Scots Irish left Ireland it was because of a thing called the penal laws. The church of Ireland would be use suppressed religious freedom and collect the tax money from all parts of Ireland for the English government. The same system was used in the American colonies until the war of independence. Look up the United Irish men.
The original “Scott’s Irish” come from the boarder of England and Scotland, 50/50
English and Scottish- moved by the government to Ireland. Then went to America- why are the English from the boarder called “Scott’s Irish”???
Ulster is more than 6 counties. Northern Ireland was Gerrymandered out of Ireland and even Ulster.
Yes
Ulster has 9 counties
Not the point.
You lost me when you didn't know the difference between Ulster and Northern Ireland
Where are you from?
@@familytreenutshistorygenealogyIt’s difficult of course to be familiar with every detail of a country, even a country you have close connections to, and I did find your lecture most interesting. But he’s correct, Northern Ireland is not Ulster, as 3 Ulster counties are in the Republic of Ireland.
Also, you are correct in stating that the English administration did not want Highland Scots involved in the plantation of Ulster because of the residue of Catholicism in the highlands. But it’s also worth noting that they did not want highlanders involved because they were Gaelic, and therefore very susceptible to being absorbed by the native Irish population. The plantation of Ulster was to serve as a “British” wedge between the two Gaelic strongholds, of Ireland and the Scottish highlands. Anyway, thanks for your lecture, and keep up the good work.
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BORDER SHIRE RIEFS
There are nine counties of Ulster seven counties have voted for Dail Erinn rule the pale in Ireland is down to two c
Counties of Antrim and Down.
The british government does not recognise democracy in Ulster.
I think we all know what he was trying to say.
@familytreenutshistorygenealogy what iam saying as a Scottish protestant is the majority in Ulster want European and Irish government. Maybe it is to do with the modern day problems in that area of the world costing 3500 peoples lives and remembering mo
fhein Sean athair bho tir conail Agus huile daoine na Ulaidh nis Sith.
Erinn Agus Alba gu brath!
Ar daoine.
@@grahamfleming8139 Yes as an outsider looking in I see that big changes are coming in the future there. Complicated situation for sure.
@familytreenutshistorygenealogy the U.S has a big part to do with peace and democracy 🙏 a lot of people from here and Scotland gave their all for the American dream they certainly do deserve to be remembered for what they died for.
Sith airson h'uile daoine nis.
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Englezi su mnogo štete učinili Ircima u prošlosti .
The correct term is Ulster-Scots not Scots-Irish!!!!
It depends on where you are from. Yes the correct term is Ulster Scots in Europe but in the United States they have been referred to as Scots-Irish. If you mention Ulster Scots to most anyone in the U.S., very few would know what you are talking about. He actually talks about this in the video.
Frank Morton clown 🤡.
They are just know as Irish in the UK!
Is Ulster in Scotland
Scots-Irish. Ulster is Irish.
fact check , Ulster is 9 counties ....
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Most of the police in Canada were Northern
Irish at one time ; just as the New York policemen were Catholic, the Toronto police were Protestant
Shame.
Yes. A shame for New York to have so many pagan papist statue kissers
Im sure Presbyterianism is part of Protestantism, which broke away from Roman Catholic Europe. Here in the West Indies, there are many Presbyterian Anglican churches.
land grabbers.?
There is no such thing as Scots-Irish, it’s plain and simple the Scot’s were celts who were afraid to be Irish so they bent the knee to the english
No such thing, huh? I think a quick google search will counter that statement.
Orchard go and pick plums
I am an Irish CATHOLIC American and find this very cringy. But thankfully, the "Ulster Scots" immigrants here in America didn't bring their 12th of July traditions here. And isn't it ironic that the at the College of William and Mary in Virginia, the school color is GREEN. There is hope in the 6 Counties today now that Nationalists are the majority, DUP is marginalized, and with the aid of Brexit, Ireland will be united, if the British allow it.
@@JohnnieFinlay007 First... St. Patrick was an ordained bishop in the ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH, wtf would Catholic haters bring Catholic traditions to America... I laugh at your assertion. I saw IRELAND wear GREEN in the OLYMPICS! Yeah maybe I will agree the RoI does NOT want lunatic "Unionists" burning mountains of pallets every 12 July within its borders. And it really doesn't matter if either RoI or NI advocate unification because based on the Good Friday Agreement, only the UK has the authority to make it happen, and the UK won't ever do that. And here in Amerikay, those descendants of Scots Irish do not identify as ever being Irish. You might be right, I have a lot of negative feelings towards the Unionist community in NI, because I see them as the historical oppressors, not the oppressed. But none of that transfers to the USA. Oh by the way... "Math" is a singular noun.
for your information the scots or scotii as the romans designated them came from ulster known in scotland as dial-riada scots
Yep, that’s right.
The Scots and the Irish are the same people. They just tweaked their Gaelic language and accents. Norwegians and Danes intermarried into both distinct groups. As the Angles and Saxons did.
robert woolstencroft.....wrong. no such tribe as the scotti. it's written and pronounced gallic in scotland . the gauls/galls came from the frankish regions of europe.they were always at war with the romans so they fled to england.then when the romans invaded england they then fled to and settled in scotland. the gaels is a mythical tale written by medieval irish monks to create an history for ireland. that's why they are called scottish GALLowglass in ireland....no gaeloglass
@@brucecollins641 Scotti is the Latin name for Gaels.
@@ULYSSES-31 no, scotti appears to be a roman name for raider. most likely referring to the picts of scotland.
It is my understanding that Scotland got its name from the Irish, that sailed across the Irish Sea.
Yep actually Ireland were called Scots by the romans and when they settled in Scotland and the Norman's eventually went to Britain they started calling the northern Britons Scots and that's how Scotland got the name Scotland apparently.
@alexanderv.......the scots never came from ireland neither did the name scotland. this nonsense the scots was an irish tribe is what it is nonsense. a mythical tale written by medieval irish monks to create an identity for ireland on a par with the romans/greeks.
Get over it
Get over what?
What?