ROCKSHOX Monarch R Disassembly and inspection - ROCKSHOX
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- Опубликовано: 3 июл 2024
- I got a RockShox Monarch R for repair! It blocks on rebound stroke. First we need to disassemble it. Then we need to inspect seals, oil... And piston of course! Let's begin!
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0:00 Вступление
0:27 Before disassembly let air out and remove all Schrader valves!!!
1:33 Don't forget to remove mount hardware!
2:06 Watch out! Vacuum!
3:52 Unscrew damper cap with 17mm key.
4:47 Unscrew damper cap and drain oil.
5:42 inner parts looks like new!
6:50 Damper rod is in good condition too! No scratches.
7:21 Piston and piston rod has a interesting construction.
8:28 Air canister is in perfect condition. Like new.
8:41 Oil is really old. Has dark color and contain black debris.
9:14 Let's clean air piston and assemble damper rod.
9:42 STOP!!! Something wrong!!! 
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nice find
Cool sound))))
Nice one! Really helpful. I have a monarch r on my shock and ive been waiting to service it for a while now. (2 years)! But i never really understood how to do it. The music choice really did change how you felt about it. I felt the same! Great video! Please keep this up!
Hey, Mate! Thank you very much for this kind words. Now I'll know, that my theory about music choice is working! :) And it's great that my videos is interesting to watch and helping people with repair stuff. I try my best for keep uploading videos on this channel. BTW if you have any question, feel free to ask me about! And check my channel for other videos, that maybe help you with. Cheers!
This kind of videos are so great yo watch :D great video, wondering what kind of grease and oil you gonna use to rebuild the shock and how many of those😁
In second part I'll assemble this shock and test it. Usually I use motorex grease. And thanks for kind words, mate!
Muy buen explicado. Así da gusto ver los videos. Y buena tomas, cuidando el enfoque de la cámara y enseñando todo al detalle. Se agradece este tipo de videos. Por cierto tengo una pregunta, el fallo era el orden de las arandelas. Pero, como tendría que estar la arandela que tiene la forma de estrella, mirando hacia abajo? No se si me explico 😅😅
Siempre estoy feliz de ayudar. Con cada video nuevo trato de mejorar la calidad del video. ¿De qué detalle estás hablando? Entiendo en inglés, pero no sé español. Google translate a menudo se traduce incorrectamente Espero que esta publicación sea clara en español. :D
Nice video, but where is the second part? I can't find it.
Gianfranco, there is no second part. This video is such because of bad memory card in my camera.
I am having a problem with my older coil shock.
2016 rs monarch plus debonair rc3. The small oring under the seal head that holds the large washer at the top separated. Im trying to figure out how i can change this without messing with ifp.
I think you can not do it without messing with IFP, because IFP can hold air when you will fill you shock with oil. The best way is to measure IFP depth and disassemble all shock without any problems with IFP or anything else.
Do you NEED to drain the oil and air from the lower part of the shock (stanchion) because I want to do this but don't have extra oil or the IFP adapted tool thanks
Of course you need drain air from shock before you start disassemble! It's dangerous for your health. There is no possibility to drain oil without shock disassembly i think. Btw you need new oil for the shock, beause you can't use oil oil (it's dirty). And for unscrew mail chamber you need special clamp like mine in this video ( it's clamp for disassemble dirtbikes forks). I hope this information will help you!
Great video very easy to watch. I followed everything. Except I cannot push the piston through the can with the dust seal on. I try many things but's it's very tight! Now I ride with no dust seal. Do you have any advice? Thanks.
Thank you, Lincoln! Air can installs by firmly push it on damper assembly (shock shaft). It assembles very hard, because high air pressure between air can and damper assembly. Put your shock into vise and by both hands push air can on shock. When I assembly this shock, battery of my camera was dead and this scene was not recorded, sorry! Do NOT ride your bike with shock which has not seals! It's dangerous.
Thanks, will try again.
You're welcome!
Hi AXRV88 really nice and informative video. I have another problem: My 3 months occasionally used monarch R rebound adjusting knob was turning almost without clicks, however I could adjust rebound with that. I took it out (probably I shouldnt do that) by unscrewing small screws on top, I clean it and its OK, but now I can not insert it back all the way. Do I need to disassemble top part (detach the shaft from top?) of the shock to insert it back in place? Thanks
Hello, Ziurovas! Thank you! I think the rebound needle which is inside of piston rod, pushed inside rebound knob hole by oil pressure. Because of it I think you need to disassemble shock, remove piston rod and press rebound needle inside piston rod through rebound knob hole. If this will not help, you need remove rear cap ( with hole for rebound knob ) and assemble it separetly and assemble shock finaly. This type of problem appears on all rear shock with the same system of settings, when you pull out rebound knob. I hope this information will help you with. And of coarse feel free to contact me and check other my tutorials, for better understanding rear shocks and front forks. Cheers!
AXRV88, Thank you so much for a great reply!I successfully removed the air can , but I have no idea how to remove the top cap from the rod (shaft), in your video that part is shown in 8:00. (Or I don't need to remove it at all?) maybe I just need to release the pressure from the damper body by removing lower valve? that way the needle will be loose and I will be able to inser knob back? I much appreciate your help.
ziurovas, I'm glad to help you! Yes, I think it's the best and most easiest way to solve this problem. I hope you can push needle through it hole from top cap side by something small and L-shaped. Don't forget grease ball and spring inside rebound knob body. But for remove top cap from the shaft you need a special tool with diameter of rod.
AXRV88 thank you! I finally went to a LBS to my friend working there, we released air from the damper, released damper cap as shown on your video on 4:25 and that way we were able to push the needle from inside and it stayed low and we could put knob back in place.
It's cool, ziurovas! Feel free to share my tutorials with friends, I hope my videos will help your friend or other people, who needs information about service or repair, or maybe my advices!
Hi, great video glad you find the problem and fixed it! I'm having the same problem I'm thinking to open it and service any idea what sort of service kit I need my shock looks just like your one but in white colour, I think is a 2017/18 edition but not sure I got it used from eBay. Regards Ricardo
Hello, Ricardo! Thank you! If your shock has not oil leaks and air pressure was not drop by the time, I think you need not service kit. But if you want to change some o-rings, better buy maximum set. Sorry, but I don't know where you can buy service kit. May be on chainreactioncycles or ebay.
Are there volume spacers for these? I'm having a hard time finding anything about it.
I don't know, may be you can find these spacers on EBAY or other resources, but I never saw them. BTW I had never use Rockshox shocks by myself and customers never said about spacers. But I think spacers is impossible to install without decreacing work travel of shock, because of inside rear shock is no free space.
It depends on your shock, i think that the adition of the air volume spacers are only available on High volume or debonair air can's in rockshox shocks.
hope i helped you
and sorry for my bad english☺.
There are, on RT3 HV.
in what order do the washers go back....
They must seat on the shaft in order like shown in the video. For more details you can find schematics of this rear shock, may be they help you.
@@AXRV88 Not clear at all in the video..
How much ml of shock fluid was needed to fill that cylinder? 120ml or less?
Yes, around 120ml + oil for bleeding system which goes outside.
Where is part two?!?!?????
part two was never exist and will not. because in this video all information is. if you have questions feel free to ask me. i'll try to help.
u can show full shim stack ?
You can google it.
@@AXRV88 Блин, ты русский что ли? ))
нет в интернетах мана по monarch/deluxe R.
есть ман по селекту и то по тюну. Инфы, как собран шим стак в стоке - нигде не нашел.
естественно я не побежал в комменты ютуба в первую очередь )
У меня подопытный deluxe R debonair 2018 год.
MegaYurich, к сожалению не смогу помочь с шимстаком, т.к. амортер уже сменил несколько хозяев, вернее велосипед с ним. Я предполагаю, что не сильно там шимстак отличается от других амортизаторов рокшокс +- тех же годов и назначения.
@@AXRV88 увы - сильно. С 2018 года дебонэир пошёл и совсем иначе.
good vid. But when the lockout is gone, where is the issue? I would say in the upper valve, right?
The issue was in piston shim stack.
@@AXRV88 can you please ellaborate on that a bit? You mean is all about cleaning and replacing the oil?
David, I mean the piston was restacked. Of course cleaning and oil change is matter too.
@@AXRV88 sorry my friend. The problem I have is my lockout is not working. I dont understand what u mean by " stack"
Stack is a pack of spring washers on main piston. If it is built wrong, the system will work wrong. It's hard to tell it in words. In this shock problem was in the main piston, not in the lockout system.
Здравствуйте, не подскажите , rock shox monarch rl (по идее у других так же) хотел крутилку отскока почистить , плохо крутилась , снял , а назад поставить не получается , что то не даёт ей на 1-2 мм глубже сесть , как она туда ставится ?
Здравствуйте, Арсен. Может быть шарик на место не сел и мешает? Я не снимал ручку отскока, точно не знаю, как она устроена именно в этих моделях.
@@AXRV88 возможно , даже без шарика садиться не хочет , вообще не могу понять почему
Сложно сказать, в чем может быть причина.
@@AXRV88 причину нашёл , но как отодвинуть поршенек отскока все равно не знаю
Разве поршень отскока должен двигаться? Он жестко стоит на штоке, на сколько я знаю.
Song name?
idk. it's something from free yt music
Привет. У меня отскок застрял на медленном. Решил я разобрать крутилку отскока и понял что у меня внутренняя штанга которую давит крутилка застряла в нижнем положении а если перевернуть ее и немного постучать она перейдёт в быстрый отскок не могу понять как так
Привет. Скорее всего штанга деформировалась (забилась грязью) и поэтому клинит в своём канале. По сути самая важная часть этой "штанги" это конус, который и регулирует скорость работы отскока, а так же его длинна. Если хочется попытаться оживить регулировку амортизатора, нужно выяснить с какой стороны изгиб и устранить его, путём выправления или стачивания наждаком. Хотя так же может влиять и грязь внутри канала. Нужно всё изучить и принимать решение самостоятельно. Удачи!
@@AXRV88 Привет , я бы был безумно вам благодарен , если подскажите , у меня Rock shox Rl (Debon air) , первая проблема была - пропажа блокировки , отскок работал , далее ездил зимой и у меня резко на какой то яме уменьшился ход в 2 раза , спускаю воздух ещё меньше ход становится , такого по идее быть не должно , в чем может быть проблема ? На днях хочу разобрать , это проблема в бачке демпфера или же нет? Может знаете в чем может быть проблема . До этого амортизаторы не разбирал , поэтому не понимаю в их конструкции